CZ 75D Compact Steel Frame (Sorta rare-ish) They don't normally make the compact decocker in a steel frame. usually Aluminum. (Also CZ Customs 75 Bull Shadow optic ready & a 509T on top.)
I recently attended a firearms class in Idaho. Ken is friends with the instructors as well as some of the folks in the class. He stopped by to hangout with his buddies and shoot a little. Though I have know of Ken for ages I had never had the opportunity to meet him before this class. We got to talking and realized that we had some common friends and outlooks. I found him to be sharp as a razor, completely approachable and a first class gentleman. I could (and did) listen to him intently for as long as he was willing to talk. He was an absolute please. Folks, he drips experience and authenticity. That doesn’t mean that you have to agree with all of his positions. I listen and watch and then I pick and choose what works for me. That is exactly what Ken would advocate. I feel blessed to have had the chance to spend some quality time with him.
If Matt Pranka (Former Delta Force and USPSA Grand Master) says Bill and Ken aren’t good instruction then that’s good enough for me: ua-cam.com/video/Rak_2Iwawg4/v-deo.html
Meh. 90% good info from Ken. A good 10% is out dated. Amazing group of guys though. They need to bring in someone like Mike Glover into their inner circle. At least for the social media side.
Something else came first, don't remember which, was first with double-stack magazines. BUT, Savage did it in 1907. Basically 30 YEARS earlier than the Hi-Power.
When I started watching this I had the thought of what a video like this would be if Elmer Keith, Bill Jordan and Skeeter Skelton could have done such a video. Those were my three favorite writers from my teen years.
Yup, to go back in time and learn from people with some serious "trigger time" is indeed of interest to me ... such could be said of those who relied upon single-action revolvers ... and lever guns too .. they adapted their technique to maximize utilty of function ..
@@CapnMic Sir, an additional plus with the old single action Army revolver is the thing can't go off till you cock it. This makes it a good gun to carry at the farm, as you are unlikely to shoot yourself in the leg at 2:00 a.m. I know, proper practice with any sidearm makes this a very unlikely event, but Murphy's Law can be pretty sneaky. --Old Guy
Ken & Bill, Love when you guys get together and talk guns. Thanks for sharing all the knowledge you have accumulated over the years! I’d love to see a gun guys episode with Ken, Bill, and Larry. I truly hope Larry is doing well. Stay frosty, Rick
These two gentlemen are two icons of 20th century handgun use and development. To quote Clint Smith when I was training with him “the .45 ACP kicked the 9mm’s ass in two world wars!” The .45 ACP was designed in 1904 following the 9mm in 1901. Two great pistol cartridges that we have all loved for over century!
Ken obviously doesn't know why Shakespeare had a character in King Henry VI say "First thing, let's kill all the lawyers.'" The line is spoken by Dick the Butcher, a follower of anarchist Jack Cade, whom Shakespeare depicts as “the head of an army of rabble and a demagogue pandering to the ignorant,” who sought to overthrow the government. Shakespeare’s acknowledgment that the first thing any potential tyrant must do to eliminate freedom is to “kill all the lawyers” is, indeed, a classic and well-deserved compliment to law as a profession. Thanks for the compliment, Ken!
I swear I could see the wheels turning as Bill looked on. Mr Wilson is quietly brilliant, innovative and always processing information like a supercomputer.
I was on the NRA BOD with Col. Jeff Cooper. We went to Yakatat, AK after a meeting. He brought his Bren Ten and really wanted to harvest a Brown Bear with it, but did not get one. I was fly fishing on the river. We had an incredible time talking about that pistol and naturally shooting. Great video as always.
Just a suggestion how about a video that talks about conceal carrying in the early 20th century Like when people were carrying around the colt 1903/08 pocket hammerless for self defense
@AD Ray the hammerless Pocket Model Colts are great shooters but if you're gonna carry it be sure you invest in a very secure holster, which may require you to go custom of search out a god vintage. The reason I say this is because as good as they are they are NOT drop safe. I can't recall his name at the moment but it wasn't more than 15-20 years ago when one of the popular gun writers (and LEO iirc) was killed when his fell out of his belt while in his garage. Scared the Hell outta me because I was bad to tuck my 1903 inside my waste band and "Mexican carry" it before that.
I am SOOOO glad to see someone (Bill) that uses a revolver grip on semi autos!!!! I have been shooting for 60 years, was a LEO for over 34 years, and have never used anything but a revolver grip (I could out shoot most officers on my department). Sticking my fingers up in the air on the side of the slide is so unnatural that I cannot get a feel for the gun. Love your videos, keep up the good work.
Bill great program. And Ken, thanks for sharing your magnificent collection!!! The serial number KEN 1911 was a great idea and a recognizing to you, that’s a amazing gesture.
The left ejection on the P38 had something to do with its use by drivers of military vehicles I think, so the rounds ejected away from the vehicle instead of into the co drivers face (who might be operating a machine gun in the right seat) not 100 per cent certain but thats what I think.
That was a great video! 👍 My favorite part, and I think Bill's favorite part too, was when you field stripped the two different guns & showed the unique internal features! Thanks for taking the time to film this!
Mr.Wilson if u happen to read this...Thank u for what you've done for firearms enthusiasts in America...I hope the 300HamR gets the attention and mass acceptance it deserves
At 71 yrs old I still love my 1911's. I always wanted a Wilson Combat but at 4 wives that became to far out of sight. Thanks guys I never miss y'all video's. Take care, Vern H.
Despite immediately recognizing most of those pistols and knowing their basic functions, adding the historical notes and disassembling them was a real treat. Thank you KH!
I could listen to Mr. Hackathorn talk about guns forever. Please do more like this. Would see an S&W revolver segment. I know Ken has a soft spot for the registered magnums.
Love that Tokarev at the end! I have a Chinese and thought the same as you. From a refitter’s point of view, the gun should last forever. Everything is replaceable, upgradable, interchangeable and easy to get to. Ammo is also a great little caliber.
I got one off of a retired FBI agent who found it in his car. He offered to send it to me for 20 bucks to cover shipping. I sent him a money order for 150. Still have only one
Some neat guns in your video. Must be something about Idaho. I have two Bren Tens, a Luger, and a byf44 Walther P38, and a Pachmayr .45 ACP. Real interesting story about Bren Ten magazines that I got from Mike Dixon. They had somebody already set up to make magazines for them, and had paid him something like ten thousand dollars. When it came time for him to start sending the magazines, Dixon called him. His number was disconnected, and they couldn't fine any trace of him. Or their ten grand. They started frantically searching for someone else to make magazines for them, and after weeks of searching, the only place that would make magazines for them was Mec-Gar, who, unfortunately, was in Italy. By the time the first shipment of Mec-Gar mags arrived, Dornaus & Dixon was already being sued. There were other problems as well, but the magazines were the big thing. That was pretty much the end of the company. I also have the original box and paperwork. I even have a Bren Ten poster.
I had a Bren Ten on order but never got it- that seems like lifetimes ago. Shooting was one of my hobbies when I lived inthe U.S., and I shot everyday (many times going with friends more than once a day). I also owned a significant amount of property and had my own range. I live outside the U.S. now and I don't even own a firearm anymore- very sad, but that's the way it goes sometimes. I watch these videos because these gentlemen were so much of my past and it's very nostalgic for me to see them. I was trained and worked with John Farnum and shoot "thumbs up." Not many of us anymore.
I am 83. I used to have a large collection. I am keeping the guns that I plan on shooting. I sold my P38 and my Luger 1918. Today my favorite gun is my CZ PO9. I really like my Tokarev.
I would love to see you guys do a deep dive into the Bren Ten and the story of Dornhaus & Dixon. Film such things as doing a field strip and showing the lesser known and ahead of its time features and maybe some feedback from y'all's range trip with it. It's a fascinating pistol and not much is out there on it in video format. Perhaps even share what yall know about Tom Dornhaus and Mike Dixon, as to my recollection they both worked at Pachmayr back in the day when the Combat Special and Signature 1911s were being built.
Ken says only the Tokarev pistol has a removable fire control unit. So does his own SIG P210 (unfortunately not the new American made version). Also the French Model 1935A. He also says nobody copied the Walther P38 parallel dual recoil springs. The .44 Auto Mag pistol has something very similar. The FN Browning Hi-Power P-35 may have been the first 9x19mm pistol with a double column magazine, but the Savage 1907 .32 & .380ACP pistols had it 28 years earlier.
Two comments. So refreshing to know that in a world of thumbs forward grip, the thumb over thumb is still relevant as Bill and Mas still use it. I've converted my grip to thumbs forward but when I shoot my revolver, I still use thumb over thumb. Second, seems Ken and I have the same slight problem on the strong hand grip on the 1911 platform. As a Tactical Elite owner, I've had to practice a bit extra to get a good solid grip to ensure grip safety engagement. Excellent video from two legends. EDIT: forgot to mention my fave pistol. In my collection, easily the Wilson Tac Elite. A work of art. For practicality, my Glock 35. Yes. .40. Don't crucify me now. 🙈
Thanks. This was fascinating. I am recovering from a stroke, I lived, so I avoid content, too upsetting, yet this held my attention, despite all my guns being gone. (I was fond of white bone grips too)
Great video Ken! I'm an old timer like you and have had nearly all of them except a Tokarev and a P-38. I remember back in the 60's how cheap the surplus ones were! A few semi-auto's come to mind when mentioning the removable sear assembly, including the SIG P210. I believe the .30 Tokarev round is very close to the .30 Mauser round and are nearly interchangeable. I been told that the Tokarev round is hotter. Never knew that the P-38 ejected to the left. I could listen to you two talk guns all day! Thanks again! Great!
Glad to see the Tokarev made your list! I’ve always loved the caliber, and the way the FCU can be changed is something I thought was way ahead of it’s time. Sig does a similar thing now, but for a military gun, it was a great idea if you had the replacement FCU available to troops in the field.
Absolutely the very best Gun Guys/Wilson video to date!!! Thank you so much, Ken and Bill! I've got 1911s, Hi-Powers, Lugers, P-38s & a Tokarev. I learned a few things from Ken (as usual). I never paid any attention to the P-38s ejecting to the left. I am used to my very early 1911s and Lugers ejecting into my face or on my head. Idaho looks beautiful. Home to Ken Hackathorn and Elmer Keith. God's Country.
In the 1980s I had a Sig P220 (.45 ACP) with the heel magazine release for duty carry. Ken mentioned the changing of the magazines and it brought back memories...the magazine was easy to change as he described. Great video...thanks.
I have a U.S. made Sig P210 Standard. I would have never thought that Larry Vickers would have been a fan of that pistol or would have customized one. That’s a keeper Ken. Great segment.
As I noted above, the P-38 is one of my favorites. You can start a good collection of P-38s and P-1s pretty cheaply; there is a huge variety to choose from. Careful, though, it's a slippery slope! --Old Guy
2 old guys talking about guns.....i could watch it forever!!! TT33 is a snappy shooter, but in most of the cases more accurate than the shooter behind the trigger.... BTW the grip angle is ferocious -almost 90deg- and put it on safe requires some brass balls, esp. with one in the chamber. On the other side 7.62x25 was the most powerful production autoloader until 10mm come by.
I would like to thank you for all this content. I am a new (10 yr) enthusiasts gun man. I train often and want to be a responsible gun carrier. I very much enjoy your videos. So educational that motivates me to be a better gun owner by being a better gun scholar. I love the history and would like to say.... Thank you! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I always admired Walther and now I know why. I really like this video and It reminded me of when my grandma sat me down with relics and stories right before she kicked the bucket a few years ago. You old sons of guns just hang on to your butts, cuz God's right around corner and us young guys still need you more than you think. We appreciate your time and effort. Your awesome and Keep up the good fight.
Really enjoyed Ken's walk down his favorite handguns and the bit of history shared on a few of them. Always a pleasure - truly hope that Bill & Ken continue to offer up videos, which share their thoughts on a given handgun(s). Actually would listen to you two talk about almost any topic; such a nice, easy chemistry between these guys. Much appreciated, guys!!
I remember Jeff talking about the Bren 10 during my API250 in 1986. Of course he had multiple magazines for his. Jeff taught your thumb riding on top of the safety. Because in recoil it is possible to engage the safety. You may think that won't happen to me, until it does. If you're lucky it happens on the square range. My favorite pistol is the one I used at American Pistol Institute during my API250.
I sincerely hope these two gentlemen are imparting their wisdom on the next generation. A wealth of knowledge between the two. Thank you for your continued contributions to the #2A community! God Bless!!
Thank you Bill for putting me at ease with my grip on a semi-auto. I am a revolver man at heart. And I, like you, use a revolver grip on my semi's! It is the most comfortable and natural way for me.
Great video, as usual. Your Bren Ten brought back some bitter-sweet memories. When the Bren Ten was first announced I ordered three consecutively number pistols---270, 271, and 272. Back in the mid 80's, after leaving my soon to be exwife she broke into my house and stole them....haven't seen them since. I can't imagine what they'd be worth today.
Great episode! Always learn something from your channel. Great listening about Ken's favorite pistols but it also was a great lesson on the history of pistol development. Keep them coming!
What is your favorite pistol?
CZ 75D Compact Steel Frame (Sorta rare-ish) They don't normally make the compact decocker in a steel frame. usually Aluminum. (Also CZ Customs 75 Bull Shadow optic ready & a 509T on top.)
Kimber ultra
Glock 41
SFT9
Between a Ruger SR1911 and Sig Scorpion, both in the Lord’s caliber…. .45ACP 😂
Rumor has it bill is still trying to end this episode to this day, and Ken is still pulling different handguns out of the bag and handing them to him.
LMAO
Real briefly… begins to disassemble the firearm 😂
They turned off the cameras, brought out the whiskey, and talked until dawn.
I could listen to these guys for hours. The wisdom, history, insight and wit.
Haha, I was thinking the same thing. Ken could be reading ingredients off a box of Frosted Flakes and I'd still listen intently...
The tokarev
I recently attended a firearms class in Idaho. Ken is friends with the instructors as well as some of the folks in the class. He stopped by to hangout with his buddies and shoot a little. Though I have know of Ken for ages I had never had the opportunity to meet him before this class. We got to talking and realized that we had some common friends and outlooks. I found him to be sharp as a razor, completely approachable and a first class gentleman. I could (and did) listen to him intently for as long as he was willing to talk. He was an absolute please. Folks, he drips experience and authenticity. That doesn’t mean that you have to agree with all of his positions. I listen and watch and then I pick and choose what works for me. That is exactly what Ken would advocate. I feel blessed to have had the chance to spend some quality time with him.
You might not like it, but this is what peak knowledge transfer looks like.
If Matt Pranka (Former Delta Force and USPSA Grand Master) says Bill and Ken aren’t good instruction then that’s good enough for me: ua-cam.com/video/Rak_2Iwawg4/v-deo.html
Meh. 90% good info from Ken. A good 10% is out dated. Amazing group of guys though. They need to bring in someone like Mike Glover into their inner circle. At least for the social media side.
@@wade6523 that dudes a chinese spy
@@wade6523 That's effing hilarious Wade. "Mike Glover"
@@stunod1479 he's likely killed more people than every employee at Wilson Combat combined. What's hilarious about that?
Thanks for the history. I hope you guys live forever. I'm 73 and still absorbing everything I can about firearms.
Something else came first, don't remember which, was first with double-stack magazines.
BUT, Savage did it in 1907. Basically 30 YEARS earlier than the Hi-Power.
When I started watching this I had the thought of what a video like this would be if Elmer Keith, Bill Jordan and Skeeter Skelton could have done such a video. Those were my three favorite writers from my teen years.
Now that would of been beyond Cool !
Yup, to go back in time and learn from people with some serious "trigger time" is indeed of interest to me ... such could be said of those who relied upon single-action revolvers ... and lever guns too .. they adapted their technique to maximize utilty of function ..
@@CapnMic Sir, an additional plus with the old single action Army revolver is the thing can't go off till you cock it. This makes it a good gun to carry at the farm, as you are unlikely to shoot yourself in the leg at 2:00 a.m. I know, proper practice with any sidearm makes this a very unlikely event, but Murphy's Law can be pretty sneaky. --Old Guy
I totally agree
I agree, means you're about my age. had almost forgotten about Skeeter
I'm with you Bill I use the revolver grip on the 1911.
Now I can throw your name around. Bill Wilson does.
Ken & Bill,
Love when you guys get together and talk guns. Thanks for sharing all the knowledge you have accumulated over the years! I’d love to see a gun guys episode with Ken, Bill, and Larry. I truly hope Larry is doing well.
Stay frosty,
Rick
More of Ken please. The man is a treasure.
Yeah, he is pretty damn cool.
👍👍👍 "It shoots real bullets." Real guns (like yours) do that!
These two gentlemen are two icons of 20th century handgun use and development. To quote Clint Smith when I was training with him “the .45 ACP kicked the 9mm’s ass in two world wars!” The .45 ACP was designed in 1904 following the 9mm in 1901. Two great pistol cartridges that we have all loved for over century!
A lot of our allies used 9mm anyway. Australia, UK, Canada, Poland, and all of the resistance fighters.
Ken obviously doesn't know why Shakespeare had a character in King Henry VI say "First thing, let's kill all the lawyers.'" The line is spoken by Dick the Butcher, a follower of anarchist Jack Cade, whom Shakespeare depicts as “the head of an army of rabble and a demagogue pandering to the ignorant,” who sought to overthrow the government. Shakespeare’s acknowledgment that the first thing any potential tyrant must do to eliminate freedom is to “kill all the lawyers” is, indeed, a classic and well-deserved compliment to law as a profession.
Thanks for the compliment, Ken!
I swear I could see the wheels turning as Bill looked on. Mr Wilson is quietly brilliant, innovative and always processing information like a supercomputer.
I was on the NRA BOD with Col. Jeff Cooper. We went to Yakatat, AK after a meeting. He brought his Bren Ten and really wanted to harvest a Brown Bear with it, but did not get one. I was fly fishing on the river. We had an incredible time talking about that pistol and naturally shooting. Great video as always.
Enjoy your conversation hope you rember coming to my indoor range in the late eighties and teaching classes.
22:26 The FIRST time I've EVER seen a Luger combat chambered CORRECTLY!
GOOD instruction Ken!!!!!
I could listen to Ken talk about guns all day. The guy is a national treasure.
Just a suggestion how about a video that talks about conceal carrying in the early 20th century
Like when people were carrying around the colt 1903/08 pocket hammerless for self defense
That is a great idea!.. Love those early 1900s pistols.
@@mikeseier4449
I actually have one on layaway at the moment
It’s an original colt 1903 pocket hammerless in .32 acp made in 1940
@@ADRay1999 A very fine firearm. You will not regret owning one. Very flat and very concealable. Good shooters too, if you know your craft.
@AD Ray the hammerless Pocket Model Colts are great shooters but if you're gonna carry it be sure you invest in a very secure holster, which may require you to go custom of search out a god vintage. The reason I say this is because as good as they are they are NOT drop safe. I can't recall his name at the moment but it wasn't more than 15-20 years ago when one of the popular gun writers (and LEO iirc) was killed when his fell out of his belt while in his garage. Scared the Hell outta me because I was bad to tuck my 1903 inside my waste band and "Mexican carry" it before that.
I am SOOOO glad to see someone (Bill) that uses a revolver grip on semi autos!!!! I have been shooting for 60 years, was a LEO for over 34 years, and have never used anything but a revolver grip (I could out shoot most officers on my department). Sticking my fingers up in the air on the side of the slide is so unnatural that I cannot get a feel for the gun. Love your videos, keep up the good work.
I always thought the sig p320 and 365 fire control unit was like the tokarev very cool
Bill great program. And Ken, thanks for sharing your magnificent collection!!!
The serial number KEN 1911 was a great idea and a recognizing to you, that’s a amazing gesture.
The left ejection on the P38 had something to do with its use by drivers of military vehicles I think, so the rounds ejected away from the vehicle instead of into the co drivers face (who might be operating a machine gun in the right seat) not 100 per cent certain but thats what I think.
Ken, thanks for sharing your collection with us. Well done!
I could listen to these gentlemen for hours. Thanks for the education. Take care.
Thanks for listening
So many 1911s, so little time😂
Very nice collection 👍
I’ve never even cycled the action on them! lol
I could listen to these men for hours. Almost cathartic. Love it.
Please continue making these videos. They’re like candy to gun guys. I have a CQB on order but that Hackathorn special is calling my name.
That was a great video! 👍 My favorite part, and I think Bill's favorite part too, was when you field stripped the two different guns & showed the unique internal features! Thanks for taking the time to film this!
Mr.Wilson if u happen to read this...Thank u for what you've done for firearms enthusiasts in America...I hope the 300HamR gets the attention and mass acceptance it deserves
At 71 yrs old I still love my 1911's. I always wanted a Wilson Combat but at 4 wives that became to far out of sight. Thanks guys I never miss y'all video's. Take care, Vern H.
Despite immediately recognizing most of those pistols and knowing their basic functions, adding the historical notes and disassembling them was a real treat. Thank you KH!
I could listen to Mr. Hackathorn talk about guns forever. Please do more like this. Would see an S&W revolver segment. I know Ken has a soft spot for the registered magnums.
More to come! Ken will share some of his revolver collection in a future episode.
@@gowilsoncombat The sooner the better! Thanks for all you do, guys.
I could watch this type of content literally forever.
Two legends
Love that Tokarev at the end! I have a Chinese and thought the same as you. From a refitter’s point of view, the gun should last forever. Everything is replaceable, upgradable, interchangeable and easy to get to. Ammo is also a great little caliber.
I bought my Tok for the history, took it to the range and fell in love.
Swenson, Pachmyer ....deep pull 🤘🥰😎🇺🇲
OMG! When he took out that Bren Ten I nearly died😍
I have one of the first one hundred Bren Tens built. Still my favorite pistol. 😍 I have 3 magazines too!
I got one off of a retired FBI agent who found it in his car. He offered to send it to me for 20 bucks to cover shipping. I sent him a money order for 150. Still have only one
And I love how the mag almost shoots out the bottom because of the mag spring. Get it clear for sure
Some neat guns in your video. Must be something about Idaho. I have two Bren Tens, a Luger, and a byf44 Walther P38, and a Pachmayr .45 ACP. Real interesting story about Bren Ten magazines that I got from Mike Dixon. They had somebody already set up to make magazines for them, and had paid him something like ten thousand dollars. When it came time for him to start sending the magazines, Dixon called him. His number was disconnected, and they couldn't fine any trace of him. Or their ten grand. They started frantically searching for someone else to make magazines for them, and after weeks of searching, the only place that would make magazines for them was Mec-Gar, who, unfortunately, was in Italy. By the time the first shipment of Mec-Gar mags arrived, Dornaus & Dixon was already being sued. There were other problems as well, but the magazines were the big thing. That was pretty much the end of the company. I also have the original box and paperwork. I even have a Bren Ten poster.
Reminds me of my childhood when my father had his friends over to have there weekly show and tells , keep it up love these videos
Thankful that you guys are sharing your knowledge with us. Watching from the greater Boston area. Carry on!
Our pleasure!
More of this please. Thank you. Let's see in Mas's safe, and Bill's too!. History is awesome! Thanks again!
More to come!
I had a Bren Ten on order but never got it- that seems like lifetimes ago. Shooting was one of my hobbies when I lived inthe U.S., and I shot everyday (many times going with friends more than once a day). I also owned a significant amount of property and had my own range. I live outside the U.S. now and I don't even own a firearm anymore- very sad, but that's the way it goes sometimes. I watch these videos because these gentlemen were so much of my past and it's very nostalgic for me to see them. I was trained and worked with John Farnum and shoot "thumbs up." Not many of us anymore.
Bren Ten is my Holy Grail Gun !!
Thanks for the free info, much obliged.
I LOVE these Show & Tells...
What a awesome video. Love the history! Thank you Ken.
I am 83. I used to have a large collection. I am keeping the guns that I plan on shooting. I sold my P38 and my Luger 1918. Today my favorite gun is my CZ PO9. I really like my Tokarev.
1911…model 70…and 870 wingmaster…rem 700 too but I’ve found the mod70 style action this last yr in a fn spr and prefer it over the rem…
I would love to see you guys do a deep dive into the Bren Ten and the story of Dornhaus & Dixon. Film such things as doing a field strip and showing the lesser known and ahead of its time features and maybe some feedback from y'all's range trip with it.
It's a fascinating pistol and not much is out there on it in video format. Perhaps even share what yall know about Tom Dornhaus and Mike Dixon, as to my recollection they both worked at Pachmayr back in the day when the Combat Special and Signature 1911s were being built.
2:11 I WANT "KENS1911"!!! Beautiful 1911 and a fantastic piece of history.
Videos are so helpful for gun history
i always leaRN SOMETHING NEW LISTENING TO THESE TWO PROS.
Ken says only the Tokarev pistol has a removable fire control unit. So does his own SIG P210 (unfortunately not the new American made version). Also the French Model 1935A.
He also says nobody copied the Walther P38 parallel dual recoil springs. The .44 Auto Mag pistol has something very similar.
The FN Browning Hi-Power P-35 may have been the first 9x19mm pistol with a double column magazine, but the Savage 1907 .32 & .380ACP pistols had it 28 years earlier.
I’ve got an American P210. It does have the removable FCU. Pretty neat stuff.
@@DanesSpecialtyCoffee I am glad to read that.👍 I thought I read somewhere that SIG-Sauer dropped that feature.
That was 33+ minutes well spent, thank you gentlemen 👍
Our pleasure!
Two comments. So refreshing to know that in a world of thumbs forward grip, the thumb over thumb is still relevant as Bill and Mas still use it. I've converted my grip to thumbs forward but when I shoot my revolver, I still use thumb over thumb.
Second, seems Ken and I have the same slight problem on the strong hand grip on the 1911 platform. As a Tactical Elite owner, I've had to practice a bit extra to get a good solid grip to ensure grip safety engagement.
Excellent video from two legends.
EDIT: forgot to mention my fave pistol. In my collection, easily the Wilson Tac Elite. A work of art. For practicality, my Glock 35. Yes. .40. Don't crucify me now. 🙈
Thanks. This was fascinating. I am recovering from a stroke, I lived, so I avoid content, too upsetting, yet this held my attention, despite all my guns being gone. (I was fond of white bone grips too)
Great video Ken! I'm an old timer like you and have had nearly all of them except a Tokarev and a P-38. I remember back in the
60's how cheap the surplus ones were! A few semi-auto's come to mind when mentioning the removable sear assembly, including the SIG P210. I believe the .30 Tokarev round is very close to the .30 Mauser round and are nearly interchangeable. I been told that the Tokarev round is hotter. Never knew that the P-38 ejected to the left. I could listen to you two talk guns all day! Thanks again! Great!
Wow. That was a good use of 30 minutes. Thanks Ken
Glad you enjoyed it
Really enjoy listening to you two.
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S&W 1911 E Series. I absolutely love this gun.
I love watching and listening to Wilson’s videos. Like sitting around a table with folks who know what they’re talking about.
I could listen to Ken and Bill talk about guns all day long
Glad to see the Tokarev made your list! I’ve always loved the caliber, and the way the FCU can be changed is something I thought was way ahead of it’s time. Sig does a similar thing now, but for a military gun, it was a great idea if you had the replacement FCU available to troops in the field.
Yep, I love Tokarevs too. On this list, the Tok and the Hi Power would be my favorites.
Actually, I’m surprised he hasn’t noticed, but the P210 also has the FCU. An older pistol, so maybe they stole it from SIG.
@@DanesSpecialtyCoffee
TT33 - designed in 1929.
P210 - designed in 1947.
People like you should not procreate.
Awesome video! Love seeing old guns, especially 1911s!
27:00 The Walther P5 also uses the dual frame mounted recoil springs and ejects to the left.
That was fun as fishin. Thanks much
Very Nice Presentation, Ken!
Glad you liked it!
Awesome, thank you guys !! :)
Any time!
Absolutely the very best Gun Guys/Wilson video to date!!! Thank you so much, Ken and Bill! I've got 1911s, Hi-Powers, Lugers, P-38s & a Tokarev. I learned a few things from Ken (as usual). I never paid any attention to the P-38s ejecting to the left. I am used to my very early 1911s and Lugers ejecting into my face or on my head. Idaho looks beautiful. Home to Ken Hackathorn and Elmer Keith. God's Country.
So blessed to have boys that love shooting, hunting, and guns! They are looking forward to getting their hands on the collection when the time comes.
I enjoyed this video very much. Thank you for showing this collection to us. God bless.
Glad you enjoyed it!
In the 1980s I had a Sig P220 (.45 ACP) with the heel magazine release for duty carry. Ken mentioned the changing of the magazines and it brought back memories...the magazine was easy to change as he described.
Great video...thanks.
It’s over too soon! I could listen for hours 👏
Good stuff. I’d love to see a show on Wilson’s upgrades to a Beretta 96 .40s&w
I have a U.S. made Sig P210 Standard. I would have never thought that Larry Vickers would have been a fan of that pistol or would have customized one. That’s a keeper Ken. Great segment.
I really like the Walther P38!
First time someone let me try one years ago, I was amazed at how smooth and accurate shooting it was!
As I noted above, the P-38 is one of my favorites. You can start a good collection of P-38s and P-1s pretty cheaply; there is a huge variety to choose from. Careful, though, it's a slippery slope! --Old Guy
Thank you for sharing your collection with us!
My favorite is a Wilson CQB, thank you Mr. Wilson for them.
That was great 👍. GB
Thanks for the education, Ken! Sparks in Daytona
2 old guys talking about guns.....i could watch it forever!!!
TT33 is a snappy shooter, but in most of the cases more accurate than the shooter behind the trigger.... BTW the grip angle is ferocious -almost 90deg- and put it on safe requires some brass balls, esp. with one in the chamber. On the other side 7.62x25 was the most powerful production autoloader until 10mm come by.
TT33s make good loaded paperweights. I've got one.
Greatest Episode i ever seen. Greeting from Germany
I could listen to you guys talk about guns all night awesome vid
I would like to thank you for all this content. I am a new (10 yr) enthusiasts gun man. I train often and want to be a responsible gun carrier. I very much enjoy your videos. So educational that motivates me to be a better gun owner by being a better gun scholar. I love the history and would like to say.... Thank you! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Very interesting thank you. I am a revolver guy, but I love the hi power.
I always admired Walther and now I know why. I really like this video and It reminded me of when my grandma sat me down with relics and stories right before she kicked the bucket a few years ago. You old sons of guns just hang on to your butts, cuz God's right around corner and us young guys still need you more than you think. We appreciate your time and effort. Your awesome and Keep up the good fight.
So glad he pulled out that Hi-Power towards the end.
Really enjoyed Ken's walk down his favorite handguns and the bit of history shared on a few of them. Always a pleasure - truly hope that Bill & Ken continue to offer up videos, which share their thoughts on a given handgun(s). Actually would listen to you two talk about almost any topic; such a nice, easy chemistry between these guys. Much appreciated, guys!!
I remember Jeff talking about the Bren 10 during my API250 in 1986. Of course he had multiple magazines for his.
Jeff taught your thumb riding on top of the safety. Because in recoil it is possible to engage the safety. You may think that won't happen to me, until it does. If you're lucky it happens on the square range. My favorite pistol is the one I used at American Pistol Institute during my API250.
I sincerely hope these two gentlemen are imparting their wisdom on the next generation. A wealth of knowledge between the two. Thank you for your continued contributions to the #2A community! God Bless!!
Well said!
Thank you Bill for putting me at ease with my grip on a semi-auto. I am a revolver man at heart. And I, like you, use a revolver grip on my semi's! It is the most comfortable and natural way for me.
Great video, as usual.
Your Bren Ten brought back some bitter-sweet memories.
When the Bren Ten was first announced I ordered three consecutively number pistols---270, 271, and 272.
Back in the mid 80's, after leaving my soon to be exwife she broke into my house and stole them....haven't seen them since.
I can't imagine what they'd be worth today.
Thanks for sharing!
Really enjoyed the video.
Thank you.
Great episode! Always learn something from your channel. Great listening about Ken's favorite pistols but it also was a great lesson on the history of pistol development. Keep them coming!
Excellent work men..