Review: 2024 Nissan Z Nismo - Disappointing in So Many Ways
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- I spend a few days with the 2024 Nissan Z Nismo to see what it's like to live with and how it performs compared to its competitors. Unfortunately, the Z Nismo comes up short for a variety of reasons and as a result, it's a pretty big disappointment in my book. Do you agree or disagree with my complaints about the Z Nismo? Thanks to Nissan for providing this vehicle to review.
Time stamps:
0:00 Exterior
1:02 Interior
4:21 Initial impressions
6:47 Acceleration
8:27 Handling and ride
17:17 Highway driving and safety tech
17:51 Fuel economy
18:34 Pricing and competitor comparisons
24:03 Final thoughts
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Nissan is that company we all want to hit a home run so badly, but it’s like they just don’t have their ear to the same ground we do.
think thats like with all car brands, due to dealer mark ups
They nailed it with the looks and exhaust note, but drivers want a manual H pattern option. Even if they were dead set on making it an auto they should have did something bonkers like using the GT-R trans axle rear to justified this price jump. I still think just throwing in an upgraded CD009/A with some well chosen ratios and the 1.5 way Nismo diff would have helped distinguish it from the other cars mentioned.
So true. I loved the early 90's Maxima's and Sentra SE's the Fairlady Z, Q45a, j30... back then the brand was a force and I want that from them again. Gosn gutted them :(
Facts 🤣🤦🏽♂️ sad sad company
That’s why I only want the GTR
As a Z guy who was VERY excited for the new Z in all variations. I really do like the cars, but the execution was just missed on so many different issues.
Agreed, they should have used the naming conventions from the 350z and a lot of this confusion would be averted, like call the Base the Grand Touring, then have a Performance, and Track versions. Also have a MT bare bones Tuner version.The slushbox is a mistake, but a DCT would have been a waste on this car, either folks want to row their own gears or they just want the car to shift for them 99% of the time. Like all the GMA T.50s are going to be H pattern stick shift for a reason, and cars that resell for more as an auto than a stick shift are rare. But yeah they did a good job in so many other areas, they really should have put a H pattern shifter and some much better looking interior options in the Nismo, for that price at least.
Matt thank you for giving us your honest opinion despite possible repercussions for reviewing a car truthfully.
This auto reviewer is a Nissan hater........
This is the most brutally honest and true review of the Z. I’m a Z fanboy also but facts are facts. Great vid man, keep up the honesty
Thanks! Will do!
I just don’t understand how Nissan expects anyone to pay nearly 70 grand for a z with an auto
Because no one drives manual anymore?
@@ian2372a lot of people still drives manual. Automatic is just more convenient for daily driving to work, the grocery store, or in bumper to bumper traffic.
But more importantly, automatic is more ideal since it’s faster than a manual so it would kinda make sense to put it in a top trim level performance car. I still think a manual should’ve been an option.
@@ian2372sports car without a manual, blech.
@@ian2372lmao! Cause mayby most of them carry purses? Manual cars sell for way more money! You must live under a rock!
Tell that to Ford and the Dark Horse.
As a 370z owner myself, this car is straight up embarrassing.. mostly because of the price tag (and the inevitable dealership markups). No manual, interior that feels way too much like a 370z, lots of cheap details… There’s just no way in hell anybody should be paying anything close to what this car costs
A 2024 BMW M2 costs LESS than this car and is better in literally every way. Crazy.
I have a 2017 370Z Sport. It's crazy that for $33K you could get the Rays wheels, upgraded brakes, limited slip diff., etc. Now you have to spend $50K to get the same parts in the new Z!
@gorkikanian1255 To be fair, the 2024 M2 is absolutely hideous though.
Nissan Management is so incompetent. All they need to do for Infiniti is rebaadge Nissan cars but instead they let the q50 stay on market unchanged for 10 years
Nissan is sinking fast… They had a chance but failed.
Q50 has actually been on the market for about 8 years, but close.
@@jonlosito2004 1st model year was 2014 for the Q50, which means it came out in 2013, which is 10 years ago.
@@tommygeary1931 yea but they're gonna kill it off the market soon
Isn't their old CEO Ghost in prison? He was able to do a bunch of foolish things with no oversight. Eventually caught by the numbers not adding up but fooled them for literally years. There must be some problem over there within the corporate structure that is dragging them down.
Hard pass... the price tag is ridiculous
True, rather get the m240i for that price. What a lot of people don't know is that toyota co developed the b58. People say the supra is a bmw in disguised but imo all bmw models with the b58 is a toyota in disguise.
@@ryuken4065I owned a MKV Supra, Toyota did not codevelop the B58. The B58 was produced in 2015 which meant it was developed years before that. However, BMW and Toyota has been in collaboration since 2011 so who knows how much influence Toyota has had on BMW since then.
@@ryuken4065m240i is my favorite car I want one so bad
@@ryuken4065no it's not. The platform has been used long before the supra used it.
Yep for that price I'd pick up the Z1 version, it's gotten much better reviews and surprise, it comes in H pattern stick shift!
I think this car looks great and I'm glad it exists. That being said, for $70k I'm getting a base C8 all day over this.
Good luck driving out of a dealership with a c8 for 70k
@@IScoreUnderPressure4 I already did. $73k MSRP. 1LT with Z51 package.
@anthonykiedis1765 nice! The stingray is by far the best car in its price range in my opinion
@@IScoreUnderPressure4 for sure, I'm loving it so far. I special ordered it back in 2021 and it took 19 months to get here (it's a 2023 MY). I hear the wait times are less now though. Also, for 2024 year you would have to choose a 1LT with basically no options to be at the $70k mark. Still worth it though.
Such an NPC choice
What kind of Nismo variant of a vehicle TAKES AWAY the option for a manual that’s already available in the base model of the same vehicle?
this one apparently, lol
@@androiduberalles🗑️ manuals
They are desperately trying to emulate Porsche. In Porsche defense there PDK gear its a dual clutch. The industries best. Porsche offers manual in their gt3 but not on their top of the line gt3RS. If only the tranny on the Z wad actually a dual clutch & not a lazy automatic.
@@ashy_gee6 A lot of Z buyers just want a GT though so this is a option for them. Hopefully they will smarten up and knock ten grand off this price, then offer a real racer version that uses the GT-R rear end. The only downside would be no manual but using the DCT in the rear with a bit more kW should help it to justify a $70k price tag. Then again Nismo cars have pretty much always been pricey and never really set the world on fire, it was the aftermarket like Mines and AMS that shows the real potential of a Nissan chassis.
@@anydaynow01 well stated.
You nailed it with the comparisons. Only difference is for a couple grand more than the Nismo, you can get a Camaro ZL1…unbelievable
I feel like they should have focused on building the Base Z and the Premium one before making this. This also should have been available in a manual. The fact they can't build the 3 trims is ridiculous. No stock anywhere.
If only they offered it in a manual version that would have changed things immensely.But yeah agreed for the money I'll just spend a bit more and get the Infiniti.
The new Z is the first new car I ever tried to buy and the dealer experience was so bad I will never buy a Nissan product. Are they out of their minds charging 68k for this thing? That’s literally C8 money. The 1 plus the Z had over the Supra was the manual, now the Supra added a manual and the Z took it away 😂. What is going on at Nissan?
The GTR price is ridiculous too. Needs to come down a notch
@@Anthonypatrick1 just buy used one like i did. Although i wouldnt mind a 2017+ version, the updated look looks nice. This car is timeless, i feel its only going to get more expensive when the time comes.
@@Anthonypatrick1 The GTR price is absolutely ridiculous, but at least that car has a certain level of earned clout and cache. It's a proven performer with the latent potential as big as your wallet allows. This on the other hand has a long way to go.
@@charles-fq2dwI would NEVER buy a GTR used same with a few other cars. When people buy tuner cars, the amount of abuse that’s put onto those cars is astounding. I would have to buy it new so I know exactly what the car has been through (or hasn’t) GTR’s are well known for the HP capabilities they have so people like to kid them. Every time I see a GTR it’s getting romped on. To me, it’s just too risky.
But glad you were able to grab one! I’m not hating it just worries me quite a bit.
@@dannyllerenatv8635the problem with the R35 is it’s reputation is way higher than the reality of the car actually is. In my opinion it’s one of the worst tuner cars you can buy today unless you’re working with blank checks & plan on building the motor from the get go. The VR38 notoriously has weak rods, among some other weaknesses - they’re capable of blowing even with stock turbos. Compare that to the Coyote, LT/LS, S58, B58, etc all have made way more power with a lot more consistency on unopened engines (& more importantly for a lot cheaper.)
I’ll still take the 2020 370z Nismo 6MT “pearl white” over the Nissan Z, because of the hydraulic steering, naturally-aspirated engine, seats, and stunning looks.
When this new Z came out, I was SO stoked. I was ready to go buy one. But then the interior is a parts bin with the previous generation that was already old. And its overpriced. It just doesn't make sense. I do love the styling.
Z's have never been cheap. They were in the mid 30s in 1993.
Thanks, Matt for keeping it real! I watch you because you are so honest with your takes.
Thanks for watching! I appreciate that!
They had a home run with this car and f'ed it up in every way possible. I have never seen one in the wild and I live in LA.
I've not seen one in Denver either. I've seen more new Bentley's.
None in Phx AZ either. I'm tiring of the press release cars. What the hell Nissan!?!
I always joke they don’t even exist 😂 I see more McLarens in OC than Z’s, frankly I’ve never seen one!
Live in Orange County and I see 30 G80s for every one of these
Love when you’re honest like this!
I've been watching you for YEARS Matt I've never seen a car step out and catch you off guard like that! I've never seen you more disappointed either ! Ugh it's such a shame for the nismo...I'm always routing for nissan. They have the capability to make a stunning car but seems like they missed the market with there audience here. I'm surprised if you wanted to track it a used Type R or old Nismo would be better? NISSAN MAN, FIX IT!
How does this price start at 66k usd when an m2 starts at 64.2k usd?
Nissan trying to rip people off, and Z fanboys. Simple as that.
I took my self off the waiting list for the nismo and I will get a supra gr now. Thanks Matt.
First time I get the impression that you hate a car😂
I was thinking the same! Not sure I’ve heard Matt speak about a car that negatively before! 😮
Never! 😂😂 great review! Definitely keeping my 2018 nismo 6mt
Thanks for your open and honest reviews! I, for one, certainly appreciate them. 👍
The price is insane and no manual is a big L. I can kind of understand if the auto gives better lap times, but the Supra is still faster around a track according to savagegeese’s testing with a pro driver, so that Nissan trying to push that argument kind of sucks. They should just be honest and say that they don’t have the budget to develop the stick at this time and there would be less shitting on the auto
I remember back in 2014 when Nimo Zs were around $46 grand new and they looked the part. It was the best bang for the buck. This Nismo Z is not worth $70 grand not even in the styling especially when you have a stiff competition. It's clear that Nissan is not listening to its audiences ☹☹☹
Have not seen you in awhile! Cool and balanced review.
So... assuming you can actually get one at MSRP, you could get a RS3 for less. That's such an easy choice lol.
That’s what I was thinking
A tiny little rs3 with 2.5l. yawn
@@madrx2With $10k worth of mods you shit on everyone? Not a bad choice
@@madrx2 That 2.5L turbo 5 is nothing to sneeze at. RS3s have a lot of latent potential.
@@madrx2I assume you must not know that platform's potential 😂
By far the roughest review I've seen from Matt. I could hear the disappointment in the first couple of minutes
Now that nose/front end is what the new Z should have been launched with. 😐
Yep leave to Domo Kun front end for the Proto, then make the rest of them look like this.
love the look of it that's for sure but no manual??? WTF
side note: that house's location @ 9:42 is probably the craziest I've ever seen....the noise from the inside....the...hazard...no guard rails...just wow, never seen anything like that
Definetly biased as I own a Z to me having a raw car is much more preferred over technology dampers and active exhaust and all the other bs. I would take a z over anything it competes with, I’m sure a manual option will come soon and I’d be willing to pay extra for a manual nismo. I have a 350 hr and I love it, it’s raw rides like a truck not comfortable what so ever but that’s what makes me love the car. I sit in it and feel like I’m in a jet cockpit. Good review though sad you don’t like it! You’re still my favorite car reviewer 😂
I get where your coming from as a 370z and former 350z owner myself.. But there is no way in hell you should be taking this car over a BMW M2, Supra, etc… Those cars are better in every way!
If you want a raw feeling car, this ain’t it, get a Lotus or something. For almost $70k plus markup this car doesn’t cut it at all.
I'm honored to be your favorite car reviewer! I'm sad that this car was a letdown for me. I was prepared to complain about the price, but I wasn't expecting to be let down by the handling.
@gorkikanian1255 to be fair, the m2 is hideous but i agree with the supra. I would love one if it weren't for the cramped interior
Hey Matt, very very honestly about the Z cars in general; first off I am just happy Nissan is still making them regardless of them being a bit disappointing compared to other sports cars in the same market segment. However I did test drive the last version of the Nismo Z and it was well balanced, good chassis and not bad but the engine just felt very slow for a car in the second highest position in Nissan's product stack. Fun car for sure but it felt like it wanted about +100hp and torque for it to feel exciting on the go fast pedal. Good starting point but a bit heavy and again need more power to feel the way I would want. Great review as always Matt and agree on the overall feel but a sad non-inspiring engine. I do like the new look and again excellent chassis.
I'll start watching your reviews again. I most certainly appreciate the honesty! I was just talking about this car yesterday. I have owned at least 10 Z cars over the years and I'm simply not impressed with Nissan since the 2007 Nismo. Yes, they have made minor improvements, but every upside seems to have a downside.
For example, from the 350z to the 370z, the pros have cons to go with it. The added power in the 370z causes the engine to overheat. The brakes are a bit larger, but fade comes in fast. It seems like a half baked car for at least 16 years.
I really want to like the new one - but the Nismo should be cheaper than a 1le.
You're paying Zl1 money for a car that's on an old chassis - it's missing active exhaust, active dampers, an E-lsd, a head up display,and a dedicated track mode but you're paying for it.
Hard pass Nissan. For 66k starting, it should have the GTRs DCT, active exhaust, and active dampers. This car wreaks of bean counters.
For 66K imagine what a monster that Z33 Nismo can become, provided the owner knows a great Uprev tuner guy that does TT setups on HRs....
@@jacquesc3166 it's a totally half-baked car. You are paying for a lot of parts that are missing. It's simply overpriced. It should not cost more than a Camaro 2SS 1le. ..and that car comes with a Modern chassis , head up display, Elsd, active exhaust, active suspension, dual zone climate control, premium Bose, and a manual.
And it handily outpaces the Z. I'm also one that likes peace of mind with a warranty - and leaving it up to the aftermarket, I've seen enough science projects and blown engines to never want to go down that road. The tuners love to cover up their missteps. Bad tunes, mismatch parts, parts that fail that shouldn't. Hard pass homey!
@@backnu Oh darn no comment on the TT HR setup? Damn. That's an ignorant response, best keep that 07 Nismo Z33 outta ya mouth homey.
@@jacquesc3166 an ignorant response? This is the last time I respond to anything. I said that I actually like the Nismo - but since we are taking the gloves off - the Nissan Altima derived engine wasn't winning and drag races or awards for being a smooth and refined engine. The Nismo is a sporty looking car, with really weak synchros, a retuned VQ engine that they used in every Maxima, Altima, Murano, etc. It's a joke that you're defending it.
Let me know how many taillights you see from M2's, Mustangs, and Camaros. 🤣
@@backnu So, so ignorant. Knows diddly squat about the VQ35HR 🤣 ...lots to learn, child. Don't go technical if ya don't got the brains to do so.
I like your honest opinion. Keep up the good work
Needs a Nismo rear wing. Though the only true Nismo Z was the 350z Nismo edition.
Awesome review.. the only scenario i could see owning one would be on the used market in 5 years if prices tank.
Why couldn’t they out the dual clutch for the GTR then it would’ve been a monster!!!
Never been first before 😮 great review
Sorry, would've finished the vid but lost me when out was paddle shift only. Let me know if they make a sport version.
His authentic fear is the biggest selling point from this review
I don't know, but Joe raiti didn't seem to have those handling problems on the track. Regardless, I'd never pay 70 grand for this car, I'd definitely go with a C8
You have a huge following so probably not a problem, but when we reviewed the 2017 Pathfinder and was honest about how the car was outdated and was not competitive, Nissan PR stopped responding to us. Props to you for risking it all to maintain your journalistic integrity.
The 370Z Nismo suffered the same fate of being far too expensive for what you got. NVH has been bad on the past 3 gens, especially for what they weigh. Adding a harsh non adjustable suspension (which all other competitors have) and droning non-variable exhaust (again, that all others have) certainly isn't helping. Not to mention at this price point I would expect better tires than what come on a WRX...which all the competitors have. It's not an all new car, it's the same platform as the past 2 generations, so why on earth is the price so high? Makes absolutely no sense unless the suits at Nissan think they have to have some crazy profit margin.
I know...this car is a bit of a joke in my eyes. Way too expensive for a parts-bin car which loses to everything it's put against.
Great video! But man… I don’t know how it just hit me but this is the same price or higher than the new BMW M2… wow. That is insane. The pricing of this ruins it more than anything else. Plastic paddles on an automatic only “track car” is simply not the right move. This thing needs a manual. But as it sits… I’d literally take my ND2 Miata or a GR86 over this, even if the Nismo was 30k.
Thanks! Yeah I'd do the same.
Wow, good review... def helped shape my perspective of this car I've been waiting for...
Thanks, glad you found it helpful!
I agree, not impressed. Overpriced, C8 much better buy, what were they thinking, oh wait, they weren't.
c8 is cheaper within the USA, its nearly double outside the USA
The price is outrageous for what you get. Outrageous lol. The regular performance should be $44k. This should be $50k. Nissan really really-really failed with this car. Looks sooo good, so much hype, then they disappoint it with the price and performance.
Jdm fanboys blinded by 90s nostalgia will still buy it 😂
I fully agree this car is way overpriced for what it is and there are much better cars for the money. Between this and the C8 Corvette, I know which one i would rather have!
If you really want a Z, you're better off finding a used 350Z or 370Z and modifying it if you like. Youll spend far less money than you will on the new NISMO.
13:10 The only terrifying car ive had was my first 86 Camaro. The ass was so light if you did not have a full tank of gas and hit a splash of water after which a turn being required. KISS YOUR ASS GOODBYE. I pissed off so many ppl inadvertently for that reason. It taught me to pay attention to your road surfaces. I ride a moto and that lesson was and is well received on the bike. Surfaces man. If you don't get what you expect you fall.
Everytime you say and see how it does I chuckle like a little girl watching your face lit up with excitement lol good to see you subaruwrxfan 🤙🏽
Got my Z performance last week in black. It's awesome. I'm 38 and this is my 3rd Z (1990TT RIP, 03 350 had to sell cause bad knee). The car rocks, wish I could drive manual but my knee is fucked. The seats do suck in all models. Been waiting forever to buy a new Z, disappointing the nismo priced me out, 20hp not worth it. + Heated seats are absolutely necessary. It's an amazing car, if you are a Z fan you'll love it .
Okay, but imagine this was the standard Z… this was just a base automatic Z with recaros… the red trim was just silver… the interior was black with white stitching.. this was only $43k… as someone who’s owned a 350z and 370z.. I’d prolly still buy another 370z.😂
Nice review
I think everyone who checks YT for "Z" reviews would love this take. The only 2 cars I've owned since 2010 have been the 350/370z (current) and I never once thought seriously about grabbing the Nismo. Should be 55k (ish). Stop with the plastic accents! A complete interior redesign with futuristic/up-to-date technology. You just can't keep trotting out the same interior guts with slight "upgrades"?? and call it a day. While I like most of the exterior and the fact they kept the design relatively close to the 370, the long list of issues you described is a nail in the coffin for me. Great cam placements on the drive and sweet review!!!
Did you try to get on it in a corner again to see if you had the same response?
Yeah after the first slide you'll see that it kept being twitchy when accelerating with any steering angle.
You can get a base model Z + the 600R package from Z1 (which is like EVERYTHING upgraded) for $70,000~. AND stick shift. Just get that instead.
Nissan really messed up not including a manual option. Whoever decided the Nismo be auto only needs to be fired
Pricey for what it is, like the S650 Mustang. But it does look waaaaay better than any S650 Mustang. Such a great design. 👍
The s650 is a much better looking car. Ford nailed it with the s650, about as good as it gets for the price range.
Ah fuck me. I just read your profile name, you're a troll. Props to you, you got me man.
@@themidnighttavern6784 Its not. It's the SN95 all over again.
@@ClickbaitMotorsports I'm not gonna keep feeding the troll, I know you secretly love the s650.
@@themidnighttavern6784 It's not really love. I have secret love for the Widebody Scatpack, but I know it's slowish. For the S650, it's genuine dislike. Oh, I also have secret love for the F80 M2. Beautiful car for being a German turd.
Wait, this Nismo Z ONLY comes in autotrajic?
Great review!
Thanks!
Great review, Matt. Its my impression that you go into great detail about all aspects, addressing all areas in your review efficiently and concisely. You entertain, inform and tactfully balance acknowledgment of the car’s strengths and weaknesses.
Maybe paddles not made of plastic will make their way into the car if Nissan adds another concept vehicle? Sorry to be snarky and sarcastic. I really wanted to love the Nismo Z but Nissan really did fail this car especially when you consider the effort and sacrifice that was required to bring us this generation. Their response should have been a focused and intentional effort in serving the Z well, which I think they fell short of accomplishing.
Haha good one about the paddles! Thanks for the comment!
And I'm with you on the choices ! I have a Mustang PP2, but Ford has drastically increased the prices. A Darkhorse Handling Package equipped with Magride, leather, and active exhaust is 72k. That's equipped the same way my car is with leather. That's insane for a glorified Mustang GT. No bespoke engine- no supercharger. It's insane! Ford has found some suckas. Throw the word "track package" in; pay some people to make it seem faster on track ...and the wallets open. The Cars and Coffee guys love to standby their cars and brag. Just don't let them hit a bump because most of them will complain about ride harshness .
So I've started looking at M2's and Supras. A better car with a better build and a lot more engineered.
And if you look at the 2024 Mustang, please be sure to take a good look at the front headlight gap. It's noticeable as well as the poor bumper fitment on the rear.
It's Ford being Ford. Don't get me wrong, but quality is not job 1 there. I had similar issues with my 1les as well. Just spotty quality and materials.
I agree with you on this. The only thing that’s going to suck is the M2 is way more expensive if something breaks and maintenance as well due to the over-engineering.
I’m also considering the M2.
@@georgevigil7001 honestly, I get an extended warranty with any car. It may be way more expensive than the Z to repair, but it should be a solid car. I would honestly leave the car stock other than suspension and maybe an exhaust. It's good from the start. I used to have the mindset of high repair cost, but after having an Audi and a BMW for years, you choose wisely on the engine and years.
And if we are enthusiasts, we learn how to do things ourselves. I'll buy the BMW all day over the Nismo. And that's saying something because I used to be the biggest Nissan fan until I wasn't. I have owned at least 10 Z cars a couple of Maxima's and a Pathfinder. I've also been waiting for a Z. This is a half-assed attempt at price gouging for a parts-bin special with a body kit.
I really wanted to buy a z but I went with a 24 lt1 camaro instead.
Thanks for the honest review! For not caring about the possible cold shoulder Nissan may give you in the future lol
That price is nuts… for 20 more horses, tighter steering feel and a little better tuning. My Evo x achieve and exceeds that with all wheel drive… ….these new cars today😅😅😅!
Wow I wonder why other reviewers didn’t say it was twitchy, In fact savagegesse said the opposite when comparing it to the supra. Btw totally agree with the pricing!
Yeah I actually asked Jack about this after I filmed this. He said had zero issues with grip, but from what I can tell, there was nothing wrong with this particular car’s tires or the car itself, so I can’t explain it. Temps might have been a little warmer in Sonoma on the launch event, but 60 degrees shouldn’t turn summer tires into hockey pucks either, so I dunno.
I finally drove a Supra the other day and found it twitchy as well. Need to drive a new Z to compare and see for myself.
@@MattMaranMotoringCould it be that the alignment was off, it being a press car?
Those tires need a little more heat. It's simple.
To be fair, my C6 will roast the conti extreme contact sports I have on there unless it's like 70 out. Maybe it was too cold? But maybe their tcs implementation is poor too?
Solid review
Was really considering this vehicle but think I’ll get an Integra type s instead
This would have been a great car at like… $35k lol 😂 great review as always Matt thank you for your work!!!
35k for base, 40k for premium, 45k for nismo would have been acceptable
@@jjukjkjiok7782, 45k and 450hp would have been perfect, even $50k would have been understandable in 2023, but this is completely ridiculous. There is no value proposition here.
@@flyingphoenix113 agreed!
@@flyingphoenix113 it will still sell out however
$35k would make sense if it was the late 1990's, but in 2023 I'd say $50 to $55k is reasonable, while Nissan asking $66k (and $70k with options) is a sign of desperation from a struggling brand.
Sad but not surprising tbh, not sure if even Nissan is understanding themselves
My current 350Z is twitchy and will slide out just like Matt is experiencing. Have to be careful on those icy mornings or will be sideways. With only 295Hp. The biggest cons is the rear Z brace blocks view and no dash glove box. It's a royal pain to be reaching over in traffic to open little compartment.
What Nissan should do is offer an optional handling package for the Performance. With Potenza sport tires, stiffer springs, bigger bars and better shocks, slightly lowered. Say, $1,500 bucks.
I'm still waiting on the LSD package for the base Z too lol.
Loved my Potenza sport.
I have only seen one new Z on the road in my area. I do agree pricing is off a little against the competition. What really hurts the Z is that most dealerships are adding 10 to 15k over MRSP. I looked at a nice Z which had sticker of 52k, an I feel that is all the squeeze out of the lemon.
1 more than I have ever seen except on UA-cam 😅😢😂
I emailed a local dealer for shits and giggles, dude had me back a video in no time flat saying they wanted “10 over” but were VERY willing to work with me. I don’t think people want these at MSRP, most fumbled release of any car I’ve ever seen
@@LateNightDateNight Too many vehicles out there that out perform the Z for same money. Especially with dealerships mark ups. I have only seen one on the road in my area.
Although I’ve never owned one; I’ve been a Z fan since the 80’s. Have been looking at a 1LE for years but fear I may miss the boat on a NEW one. As a result was thinking of pulling the trigger on the Nismo. But at that price I feel I could find a ZL1 bcuz you know they’ll be a mark up of at least a few grand. Idk after your review I’m thinking maybe I should look a little more at a Dark Horse or Supra…..🤷🏾♂️
Man they knew they was wrong not offering a manual
the paddles are the same as the metal ones in older q50 red sports
Had a 15 Nismo Z had a lot of engine and brake cooling problems due to limited air flow and a shared coolant reservoir. Channels who have tracked the new z Nismo say it still has engine and brake overheating problems. Probably the same design and never bothered to correct it.
i had a 2017 and i never had that issue. Depends how hard and long you track it i guess
You gotta educate yourself my guy 😂 that’s a completely different engine you’re talking about. Those engines in the 370’s are actually by far one of the best motors Nissan has ever made. Very reliable
@kameroncarter6715 the 370z was super reliable, only thing you needed to upgrade was the clutch pedal for feel and CMC from the stock plastic to an aftermarket metal piece
Yes it was a different engine, however it is the same chassis and probably still has the same air flow problems and would not be surprised if the engine and brakes still share the same coolant tank. Thing needs an engine hood vent and brake ducts/vents and has needed it for many years. Base engine was very reliable from what I understand but mine would often overheat on hot days in traffic to the point where the engine coolant gauge would go into the red zone and brakes would start to fail. Not even tracking it. Problem would go away if I turned on the air conditioning. I am guessing the AC fan gave it the extra engine bay airflow it needed but still a poor cooling system. My engine also had a carbon buildup problem in the throttle body. Never had a car with that problem before.
@erikcarpenter9915 hmm i used shell v power on all my cars and im in one of the biggest citys with alot of stop and go, i have never once come near to overheating.
I also let it rip down the highway all the way to red line starting 2nd gear almost every day after work when i had it, wont talk how fast i went but it was up there
I love the wheels. I’d put them on a manual regular Z and leave it at that.
Nice car, but I prefer my paid off 370Z. The crazy mark up prices on the Nismo Z is starting to eat into used 2010-2012 Nissan GT-Rs I've checked on Autotrader.
I wonder if these will be rare given the production issues, cost, and people wrecking them. That being said I can't imagine spending this much money and still having to rely on the Nissan dealer network.
the pops and bangs you were hearing arnt from the exhaust. its piped in sound effects in Sport mode. I just turned 100 miles on my Z NISMO and it already feels better than the 2023 Z performance I traded in
Still wondering how the heck no S650 Mustang review?
Yep...hopefully next year...I'm just not popular enough to warrant Ford's attention these days I guess.
I just read a Review on Road and Track and they were testing it in very HOT conditions and they were saying that it handled well, i guess this car (or the Dunlops) like the Heat. They did recommend you swap the tires out if not in ideal conditions
Gotta love the brutal honesty. 🤩
In Canada, a base cayman is cheaper than a Nismo Z
Would’ve been great if you compared it to the Supra! Great review as always!
Thanks! I compared the regular Z to the Supra extensively in my past Z coverage, and definitely preferred the Supra in almost all the ways. I didn't feel it was fair to compare a regular trim Supra to the track-ready version of the Z and decided to focus on stuff that was closer in price, but I'd still rather have a regular Supra over this car.
@@MattMaranMotoring Pretty sure the Supra is faster than this in a straight line and track lol....
At this point you’re better off buying a Toyota 86/BRZ and modding it
Surprised that the GR Supra isn’t mentioned as a competitor to the Nismo Z
I compared the regular Z to the Supra extensively in my past Z coverage, and definitely preferred the Supra in almost all the ways. I didn't feel it was fair to compare a regular trim Supra to the track-ready version of the Z and decided to focus on stuff that was closer in price, but I'd still rather have a regular Supra over this car.
I remember when these were first rumored some kid came out saying his dad was a Nissan executive and that this nismo Z was going to a be a baby GTR. So much for that.
Feel like if youre going for a z the base is the way to go at 40k its a good deal. When nissan can actually get them to dealers im confident base will sell well.
So strange, this should have came with a manual.
I’d rather keep my FBO AWD Q60 RS, hard pass on the Z tbh. The Nismo is nice, but the competition has much better cars for the price point that will blow the Z/Nismo out of the water. One VR30 is enough for me, they really needed ZF8/DTC in the VR’s to make them shine in all honesty. Only Nissan product I’d consider is the GTR, but it’s very old & outdated. It is an iconic JDM car nonetheless 😍🙏 Nissan/Infiniti have lost me a customer & look forward to moving to an M car while keeping the Q as a daily driver. Thank you for your honesty as a JDM fanboy myself!
Never expected this car would try to kill Matt. It's refreshing to see you do a negative review this year.
Matt, I agree with you 100 percent, Nissan priced this car wrong and very shameful not having real metal paddle shifters, that is sad, they saved pennies while asking for lots of dollars for this car. Now I think you need to have a redo with this car, I think you had bad tires or it was too cold overnight maybe? I know someone that has a new Z, not the Nismo but, he watched your video and agreed there was something wrong with the tires on the car you had. I know it is priced wrong, but to be fair you did not have a good driving experience because it was not connecting properly, not your fault, but can't give a proper review, clearly that car had a tire issue.
I think it’s just the way these tires are designed. Others said they’re basically street-legal race tires, and require an extensive warmup, which is not a great choice for a road car in my opinion. But I don’t think the tires were compromised in any way.
60 degree temps is cool weather for 200 TW tires. They need heat for peak grip. This is the only review I’ve seen where someone complained of grip or vehicle dynamics. He also seems predispositioned. The M2 m, I couldn’t do. I have to get out of it and look at it. Same with the new Mustang. Same with C8’s, just too gaudy. Supra, maybe. But I’m happy with my V1 370Z Nismo.
I saw this and started leaning towards the GTR. Then, I notice that price tag sky rocketed too.
C8 money for a Z?!? Forgedddaboutit
"I'm imagining lot's of these on copart," That's some inside baseball there =). With how many Pathfinders Nissan is currently selling, they'll hopefully be able to use some of that cash to upgrade this car going forward.
The fact that you get way more car in the competitor to the nismo z the 3.0 supra manual for less $$$ is embarrassing. You can even fully load one and it still comes out less than the nismo z.
Yea I just don't get it. I forgot what I paid for my supra, maybe high 50's, low 60's? And that has the active suspension, exhaust, etc., WAY quieter on the highway from what I heard there (although that may not be accurate), and handles real well in the twisties. Only downsides I'd say are the harder ingress/egress due to the low A-pillar and the higher likelihood of problems because it's a BMW. But those 2 things aside? Way better, and way cheaper.
And yeah, now I'm considering a C8, and I'd never even dream of cross-shopping that with this. Maybe 10k more the way I want it, but way better everything. I just don't get how you can justify this.
The 370 both base and nismo were very good cars, and while the nismo was a bit steep, the base was pretty good for what you got, IMO. I enjoyed the hell out of it too. New for new (compared to back when I drove one new) I'd rather have the 370 than the Z, and that shouldn't be the case.