Great vid, tyvm. As a novice I always use to use EQ but now that I have a lil bit more experience and better gear I rarely use EQ. I'm only interested in using EQ if the cans have a frequency that results in too much sibilance or is fatiguing. I bought the HD560S about a year ago and I loved the sound but they had too much sibilance and I couldn't listen to them for more than an hour. At the time I didnt know how to EQ but knowing what I know now I might have just kept them and tried to EQ them a bit. The next part of this hobby Im looking forward to is Tube Amps and learning how to Tube roll to tweak sound. That in itself seems like a lot of fun and could result in some rewarding audio. Currently, I'm doing my homework on that before diving in because there's a lot to the Tube Amp part of this hobby that could get real expensive w/ a lot of mistakes.
Perfect! When I started in the hobby I only used bluetooth headphones and abused the equalization via playback applications like, for example, VLC. After I started researching a bit, I discovered high-end powered speakers, wired headphones, and finally iems and dacs. Currently, I only use the EQ on my speakers to make subtle adjustments to different musical genres. I think this is a natural and gradual process during the discovery of audiophilia.
When I had the Arya, that thing responded so well to EQ you could literally do anything to it and it would sound good, there were times I had the wildest midrange hump from like 300-3K Hz going up maybe 5db that I used for a crappy speaker connected to my speaker-less monitor screen. But one time unbeknownst to me that EQ profile was active for when I had the Arya V2 on my head and I literally didn't even notice it, and it actually sounded great filling in that V-Shape quite a bit! In fact I remember watching a live performance of a small jazz gig on YT at the time and the sound was so incredibly life like, that's probably what made that wild EQ bump so doable, it sounded as if I had the speaker on the whole time, weird how headphones can be like that, it pushed the whole sound stage in front and around me like a binaural recording or something. That was the only planar I ever had but EQ never sounded as good to me on dynamic drivers for some reason, which is why I agree with you on the pad rolling comment. Since getting the VC it's been fun trying out different pads, yet to try a full suede option though don't know if I'd like that. Kinda feel like cutting peaks on the VC makes it lose significant detail but I need to experiment more with that.
I work of them idea that’s get IEM’s, headphones or speakers to get as close you your preferred sonic flavoring. EQ: is to be used sparingly..if you’re having to recurve the sonic response to much ..then you really should look at the transducers . As I said get as close to what you like ..before you begin to tinker. Great video…cheers 🍻
Really enjoyed that, thanks. Mind you I’d love to see you and Andrew from the Headphone show debate this, think of your joint viewers you owe it to us and yourselves 😂😂🤣. I agree with a lot of what you say, some would argue that on high end headphones, most but not all will take.EQ well, on planars particularly the physical limitations of design may not make it possible to attain optimum. sound without EQ, this sounds a strange argument to me however.
I have spoken to him a few times but not during the conception of the channel, I will reach out to him might be an interesting debate for the podcast I mean there is nothing wrong with the EQ, it’s free, but the fact that you’re paying $4000 for a pair of headphones and then to apply EQ, really does say something Lol
Subjectively I would not touch it, I find them highly enjoyable. But to bring it in line with a reference for its own curve I might drop the subbase by one or two dB, drop the middle base by another DB, but I would not really like it personally
@@ConvinceMeAudio Thanks for taking the time.....I have entered the Rabbit Hole Once again as I do with every new purchase......But I am beginning to understand the power of EQ......Once you find out the correlation between each band and effect, It becomes simpler to understand how music waves travel and also very important is to know how every instrument sounds in real life ....
Not to mention the quality of the EQ softwares themselves. Crappy EQs can render phase issues which can be easily perceived by anyone. It just sounds off in some cases. It is indeed a rabbit hole. Good video. 👍
Blew my Susvara driver from too high of a low bass shelf and cranked it up too high using the AHB2. It’s still under warranty. So should be fine. Just a bit of warning. Thinking of adding a KC62 subwoofer for sub bass.
@@Daryl42 no they really don’t, it’s just that the few people who do are very loud about it And there are a lot of physical factors and actual physics that get disregarded when applying EQ, headphones are not digitally tuned, they are physically tune There is nothing wrong with EQ, have at it, it’s just that it comes with a huge subset of problems as well which has to be taken into account, You would understand something about this if you look into headphone design, I recommend coming into the CMA chat and talking to some headphone designers but if you like touching up Headphones and EQ nothing wrong with that too bro
@@ConvinceMeAudio yes it would seem so, they also had a lot of firmware problems with the gryphon which it seems they have sorted, they seemed to try to push out new items at around the same time, topping/smsl can get away with this as they use all of the shelf or now mass produced components.
Great vid, tyvm. As a novice I always use to use EQ but now that I have a lil bit more experience and better gear I rarely use EQ. I'm only interested in using EQ if the cans have a frequency that results in too much sibilance or is fatiguing. I bought the HD560S about a year ago and I loved the sound but they had too much sibilance and I couldn't listen to them for more than an hour. At the time I didnt know how to EQ but knowing what I know now I might have just kept them and tried to EQ them a bit.
The next part of this hobby Im looking forward to is Tube Amps and learning how to Tube roll to tweak sound. That in itself seems like a lot of fun and could result in some rewarding audio. Currently, I'm doing my homework on that before diving in because there's a lot to the Tube Amp part of this hobby that could get real expensive w/ a lot of mistakes.
Perfect! When I started in the hobby I only used bluetooth headphones and abused the equalization via playback applications like, for example, VLC. After I started researching a bit, I discovered high-end powered speakers, wired headphones, and finally iems and dacs. Currently, I only use the EQ on my speakers to make subtle adjustments to different musical genres. I think this is a natural and gradual process during the discovery of audiophilia.
When I had the Arya, that thing responded so well to EQ you could literally do anything to it and it would sound good, there were times I had the wildest midrange hump from like 300-3K Hz going up maybe 5db that I used for a crappy speaker connected to my speaker-less monitor screen. But one time unbeknownst to me that EQ profile was active for when I had the Arya V2 on my head and I literally didn't even notice it, and it actually sounded great filling in that V-Shape quite a bit! In fact I remember watching a live performance of a small jazz gig on YT at the time and the sound was so incredibly life like, that's probably what made that wild EQ bump so doable, it sounded as if I had the speaker on the whole time, weird how headphones can be like that, it pushed the whole sound stage in front and around me like a binaural recording or something. That was the only planar I ever had but EQ never sounded as good to me on dynamic drivers for some reason, which is why I agree with you on the pad rolling comment. Since getting the VC it's been fun trying out different pads, yet to try a full suede option though don't know if I'd like that. Kinda feel like cutting peaks on the VC makes it lose significant detail but I need to experiment more with that.
I work of them idea that’s get IEM’s, headphones or speakers to get as close you your preferred sonic flavoring.
EQ: is to be used sparingly..if you’re having to recurve the sonic response to much ..then you really should look at the transducers .
As I said get as close to what you like ..before you begin to tinker.
Great video…cheers 🍻
Really enjoyed that, thanks. Mind you I’d love to see you and Andrew from the Headphone show debate this, think of your joint viewers you owe it to us and yourselves 😂😂🤣. I agree with a lot of what you say, some would argue that on high end headphones, most but not all will take.EQ well, on planars particularly the physical limitations of design may not make it possible to attain optimum. sound without EQ, this sounds a strange argument to me however.
I have spoken to him a few times but not during the conception of the channel, I will reach out to him might be an interesting debate for the podcast
I mean there is nothing wrong with the EQ, it’s free, but the fact that you’re paying $4000 for a pair of headphones and then to apply EQ, really does say something
Lol
@@ConvinceMeAudio indeed
What adjustment to a (10) band EQ do you recommend for the Let Shuoer S12 ? in the 1K 2K 4K 8K 16K regions .........
Subjectively I would not touch it, I find them highly enjoyable.
But to bring it in line with a reference for its own curve
I might drop the subbase by one or two dB, drop the middle base by another DB, but I would not really like it personally
@@ConvinceMeAudio Thanks for taking the time.....I have entered the Rabbit Hole Once again as I do with every new purchase......But I am beginning to understand the power of EQ......Once you find out the correlation between each band and effect, It becomes simpler to understand how music waves travel and also very important is to know how every instrument sounds in real life ....
@@MannyScoot it can be a very powerful tool, if use sparingly and with some knowledge
If you need EQ, you brought the wrong headphone.
Not to mention the quality of the EQ softwares themselves. Crappy EQs can render phase issues which can be easily perceived by anyone. It just sounds off in some cases.
It is indeed a rabbit hole. Good video. 👍
Blew my Susvara driver from too high of a low bass shelf and cranked it up too high using the AHB2. It’s still under warranty. So should be fine. Just a bit of warning. Thinking of adding a KC62 subwoofer for sub bass.
ouch
Try a Subpac or any other wearable tactile transducer, it's gonna be a game changer in the Vritual Reality scene 🤗
@@samidanger3666 Definately a cool idea ... but dont want to wear a backpack type device everytime i listen to music ...
Everyone EQs, because everyone hears differently. Automatic physiological and psychological EQ.
@@Daryl42 no they really don’t, it’s just that the few people who do are very loud about it
And there are a lot of physical factors and actual physics that get disregarded when applying EQ, headphones are not digitally tuned, they are physically tune
There is nothing wrong with EQ, have at it, it’s just that it comes with a huge subset of problems as well which has to be taken into account,
You would understand something about this if you look into headphone design, I recommend coming into the CMA chat and talking to some headphone designers but if you like touching up Headphones and EQ nothing wrong with that too bro
Btw, IFI Go Blue is still awesome 👍
No issues here with a second unit as well
@@ConvinceMeAudio I'll give it a second chance
@@adrianmorrish8494 it’s a shame the QC problems, the first batch was a cluster fuck
@@ConvinceMeAudio yes it would seem so, they also had a lot of firmware problems with the gryphon which it seems they have sorted, they seemed to try to push out new items at around the same time, topping/smsl can get away with this as they use all of the shelf or now mass produced components.