Why LL SSBKK GOKU & SSBE VEGETA Were The ONLY Unit to FALL OFF. (Dragon Ball Legends)

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    00:00 - Why Did LL EvoKen Fall Off?
    01:39 - Kit Refresher
    08:44 - What Was Their Situation?
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  • @its_Tendo
    @its_Tendo 2 місяці тому +77

    My goats may be washed but i still Love them man😭

  • @molish77
    @molish77 2 місяці тому +183

    Bro has to mention that the discord guys aren't slaves every time😭😭😭

    • @Zakashi
      @Zakashi  2 місяці тому +80

      There has already been a lot of assholes that say “BUILD ME A TEAM NOW” “DO YOUR JOB” etc. it’s very rude and we won’t help them.

    • @FlixEdits1
      @FlixEdits1 2 місяці тому +17

      ​@@ZakashiThat's so fucking rude

    • @PsaIms
      @PsaIms 2 місяці тому +11

      @@Zakashi people need to respect boundaries and shit, I swear people don't understand that now bru.

    • @scientistartsandstudy7088
      @scientistartsandstudy7088 2 місяці тому

      So if I type can anyone pls help me build a team then it's not rude

    • @scientistartsandstudy7088
      @scientistartsandstudy7088 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@Zakashiban the f of them

  • @thunderx456
    @thunderx456 2 місяці тому +20

    I think another big reason for their downfall is the strike counters in the game. Even though they're a blast based character, they'll inevitably have to use either a strike or melee based Blue card at some point with how combo focused they are. And with UUI still being a menace and UL Gohan being one of the current Big 3 members, it's consistently gonna be hard for them to keep a combo going before they get one comboed themselves.

  • @maxiumite
    @maxiumite 2 місяці тому +22

    You made a really good point with Ultra UI taking his place. If you run them on the same team, they are competing with each other the whole time.

    • @kanz08
      @kanz08 2 місяці тому +4

      Bro they’re on the same team how are they competing against each other, ig I’m the only dude that enjoys using them

    • @starustfa219
      @starustfa219 2 місяці тому

      ​@@kanz08nope,I enjoy using them also

    • @Empixity
      @Empixity 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@kanz08cause you have to focus on one of them if you focus on uui evoken won't get his unique guage up and they won't do as good as they'd normally do

    • @kanz08
      @kanz08 2 місяці тому

      @@Empixity oh I’ve started the game when db goku and db majunior first came the world tournament units so I don’t know too much

    • @joeeditzit5237
      @joeeditzit5237 2 місяці тому

      @kanz08 as someone who still desperately runs EvoKen (I'm delulu) and runs UUI on the same team, you have to focus on one unit for the match. EvoKens unique gauge is personally one of my favorite, but in order to get the maximum benefit of the gauge you need to tag switch about 4 times. If the opponent is running a purple unit, you are forced to run goku, but at that point you would rather run UUI because he locks the opponent in, and if they happened to switch you get a free ultimate. I would rather run LL Rev UI alongside UUI instead of trying to run EvoKen in the meta atm.

  • @niladridutta2982
    @niladridutta2982 2 місяці тому +9

    i might be wrong but i think u may have left out the fact that almost every unit released after the gt campaign as combo disrupt which highly effects evoken.

  • @LuyoloMpupu
    @LuyoloMpupu 2 місяці тому +19

    Evoken has been the most sought after unit for me during the Legends fest, even more the Ultra UI. I got beast Gohan in just 800 chrono crystals but for that unit it took over 25k. So seeing him fall like this is just sad

  • @JustAjayyy
    @JustAjayyy 2 місяці тому +8

    It’s unfortunate they fell off so quick, the moment itself is pretty hype imo

  • @ColeLee-jo4lf
    @ColeLee-jo4lf 2 місяці тому +21

    I didn’t know evoken was so bad, and past me spent so much cc I got 8 stars on him and now I feel regret everyday

    • @oneplay5570
      @oneplay5570 2 місяці тому +2

      same he was op but after boost he fell off so bad, i also have 8 stars and i felt bad on summoning it when i couldve summon on ultra ui

    • @kauanjos3199
      @kauanjos3199 2 місяці тому

      If I had a nickel each time Kaioken Blue Goku and Evolution Blue Vegeta fell off quickly in a dragon ball mobile game I would have 2 nickels, Which is still strange that it still happened twice

  • @Antonio_Dude
    @Antonio_Dude 2 місяці тому +6

    Its pretty obvious...its because Vegeta is the starting tag here so the Vegeta clan curse takes effect

  • @Saiyan_Anarchy_Z
    @Saiyan_Anarchy_Z 2 місяці тому +2

    Aye, how’s it going. Love the vids keep going strong

  • @Lollol-cq8fs
    @Lollol-cq8fs 2 місяці тому +7

    Bro I gambled everything for that unit just for it to be dog 😭

  • @ax3le-2.0
    @ax3le-2.0 2 місяці тому +1

    Zak I had to stop playing db legends for sometime because of school what's your recommendation if I decide to skip the anniversary and save for the festival

  • @Golghrom
    @Golghrom Місяць тому +1

    They only lack defense and cover null on entry, but we know that after a green, the fun begins.

  • @Derpygamer27YT
    @Derpygamer27YT 2 місяці тому +2

    the study of EvoKen's downfall we've been waiting for 🗿🍷

  • @quincyoseh3608
    @quincyoseh3608 2 місяці тому +4

    I think sth that was also an issue is that Evoken were the worst units in terms of defense or protective abilitys. If you look at janemba and every other lf/ultra that came out after him they all have either endurance/revival/indestructable or they had abilitys to reduce subcount against ultimates or rushes or reduce the damage. Evoken had nothing like that so they were the easiest to kill which made them vulnerable against ultra UI for example

  • @KornKobb
    @KornKobb 2 місяці тому

    I mean, they were replaced in part three by UUI, plus Uni-Rep already had RevUI to fill the role of a grn character.

  • @biffcunningham2603
    @biffcunningham2603 2 місяці тому

    that banner is where all my luck was and they was good but I never felt the best or even top units

  • @nathankiloh810
    @nathankiloh810 2 місяці тому +2

    Run this unit on a team with EX PUR Yajirobi and SP GRN Ginyu, and have EX PUR GT Goku, SP GRN Future Mai, and EX GRN Guldo as supporters, and give EvoKen the Equipments "Let's Go!!," "Haaaaa...!!," and "You won't even be able to lay a finger on me." I run this team on PVP and can reach on average Battle Rank 65 in S League.

  • @Iban300
    @Iban300 2 місяці тому +2

    Remember me Zakashi when i wanted a gt team and the helpers did not help me and kicked me🤬

  • @blorbb._
    @blorbb._ 2 місяці тому +2

    Shits sad bro I got them to 7 in like 20k now I cant even enjoy them without getting countered by these ultras 😭😭
    (They still hit sometimes but u gotta combo and units like uui exist lmao)

  • @bakuballplayz
    @bakuballplayz 2 місяці тому +3

    I use them on god ki with uvb and uui and they all work well together

  • @Bonnie743
    @Bonnie743 2 місяці тому +1

    I remember I've send 35K of my CC and didn't get Evoken

  • @kingki1185
    @kingki1185 2 місяці тому

    they need a plat that gives about 35% to all stats, and gives them 10 counts of covernull and 5 counts of bonus card draw on their first switch in

  • @leoking304
    @leoking304 2 місяці тому +1

    they the only units i got to 7 stars during their first banner 😭😭

  • @HulaCanFly
    @HulaCanFly 2 місяці тому +2

    Got to love 11 stars for them to be the ONLY unit to fall off😁

  • @fungus257
    @fungus257 2 місяці тому +4

    I Absloutely regret Summoning for these two over Beasthan.

    • @debjitde3579
      @debjitde3579 2 місяці тому +1

      Same here bro😢.They were my favourite unit for tag universe rep.But they fell off.

    • @ZillaEditz-Z
      @ZillaEditz-Z 2 місяці тому +1

      I deeply regret getting Evoken, I pulled so many good movies units and don’t have red beast, now I use fusion warriors because these guys just suck

    • @MterBist
      @MterBist 2 місяці тому

      Lucky me I went all in for beast

  • @hcbdfbbn
    @hcbdfbbn 2 місяці тому +1

    zakashi is 25k good for part 1 only

  • @Goofygoobers23
    @Goofygoobers23 Місяць тому +1

    Evoken is still really good for lower skill level players like me

  • @GFK._amon
    @GFK._amon 2 місяці тому +1

    just too squishy, good damage and good combo comp can have a possible resurgence in the future good unit imo

  • @Be_Hacker_Hack
    @Be_Hacker_Hack 2 місяці тому +1

    please make a video of 6th anniversery chracter plz i comment this 4times

  • @user-ez2yn7bb8g
    @user-ez2yn7bb8g Місяць тому

    I use ultra ui evoken and 17 its a fun team and i still love using them but at times i sub them for the rev ui

  • @MterBist
    @MterBist 2 місяці тому

    When they released some ppl were saying "EvoKen is better than beast" and i said "blue card goes brrrrr"

  • @pack7961
    @pack7961 2 місяці тому

    Spent 10k on them they were so cool man

  • @Voidmanee
    @Voidmanee Місяць тому +1

    Epicccccc

  • @Tomsupreme2022
    @Tomsupreme2022 2 місяці тому +1

    it's sad for my favorite unit but idc i will still use them too the max with 4 stars

    • @AirFryJimmy
      @AirFryJimmy 2 місяці тому +1

      Exactly who cares if they’re good if they’re still fun

  • @starustfa219
    @starustfa219 2 місяці тому

    Using mvp17,uui and evoken in top 10k and evoken are cooking the only downside is their combo can be disturbed easily thats all

  • @no_name992
    @no_name992 2 місяці тому

    I need them so badly

  • @proflow3157
    @proflow3157 Місяць тому

    I spent 50k on their banner and didnt even get them 💀🙏

  • @Whydb7351
    @Whydb7351 2 місяці тому

    They’re still hella fun to use tho

  • @Zapdos536
    @Zapdos536 Місяць тому

    I’m gonna be honest. I still use these guys and the og beast gohan unit 😭😭😭

  • @SLOW_WIFI
    @SLOW_WIFI 2 місяці тому +22

    Their fall off needs to be studied

    • @Romero1st
      @Romero1st 2 місяці тому +5

      it has been studied. it’s the video you’re watching

    • @MrTakeYourBithc
      @MrTakeYourBithc 2 місяці тому

      Your not the brightest around are you?

    • @AstroHD_0
      @AstroHD_0 2 місяці тому

      Their*

    • @AstroHD_0
      @AstroHD_0 2 місяці тому

      ​@@MrTakeYourBithcYou're*

    • @SLOW_WIFI
      @SLOW_WIFI 2 місяці тому

      @@AstroHD_0 oh thx

  • @oghene2778
    @oghene2778 2 місяці тому +1

    Evoken fully on Jupiter with how hard they fell off

  • @desertaxe5522
    @desertaxe5522 2 місяці тому

    I’m surprised beast at three I almost never see him

  • @Gamerboykididk
    @Gamerboykididk 2 місяці тому +1

    I use evoken there pretty good on my team

  • @v3cnascurs386
    @v3cnascurs386 Місяць тому

    The only unit I pulled during legends fest fell off

  • @AnthonyBroy
    @AnthonyBroy Місяць тому

    im 799th like!!!Also im sad they fell off because now every match has broly fury,Lord of lords,gohan ssj 2,or vegito and gogeta and all them are annoying to fight id much rather fight goku and vegeta

  • @nosukog
    @nosukog 2 місяці тому

    they have so much damage inflicted in their kits just to deal no damage

  • @limptoast
    @limptoast Місяць тому

    Sucks even more that I hard focused on them only for me to get them at 10 stars and have them get fucked by UI and Gohan.

  • @ZillaEditz-Z
    @ZillaEditz-Z 2 місяці тому

    And it’s the only Festival unit I pulled, how fortunate, I DO HAVE A FOURTEEN STAR 1% SP GOLDEN FRIEZA THOUGH HEHEHEHEH

  • @aaronjosue4
    @aaronjosue4 2 місяці тому +1

    hell no evo ken still goes crazy

  • @robinnico
    @robinnico 2 місяці тому +4

    Imagine being Fest LF and geting plat 5 mounth later, because you suck that much. Couldn`t be any non Vegeta character.

  • @Zer0Main43
    @Zer0Main43 Місяць тому

    Before watching the video, I’ll probably edit comment this later
    In my opinion, the reasons Evo/Ken “fell off” (still around top 20 and completely viable) while his contemporaries “didn’t” (they are mostly also around the top 20 range with the exception of Ultra Sign) is because Red Beast, Goku/Bardock and Ultra Sign all had niches to fill, Evo/Ken just did a lot of damage, and in basically the same way as Ultra Sign, their kit was replaceable and Ultra Sign proved it, as they are basically the same unit but Ultra Sign is better because of the full lock, the combo break and the passive dodge and just being better at damage, also the tag, Uni Rep/Uni Survival, was a extremely bloated with good characters at the time, so just raw damage wasn’t necessary for the team, contributing something else was a far bigger deal, the same was also soon to be true for their other main tag, Son Family, as pretty much every release from the start of Legends Fest 2023 until Ultra Gohan included a top 30-20 Son Family unit (specifically placings at the time could be debated) with the exception of Vegeta and 16 who was in the same celebration, and speaking of Ultra Gohan, he killed the Green Son Family slot just by being so good, and while it’s usually not a big deal if you end up having to dupe an element, if you can avoid it it’s better not to and before Gohan Evo/Ken didn’t have to worry about this, being not only the only relevant Son Family green, but Uni Rep/Uni Survival green as well, and suddenly not only was the green slot on Som Family completely killed, but if you wanted, and many people did exactly this, you could just lead Gohan on Uni Rep/Uni Survival, killing the green slot everywhere else too, and again, it’s not the biggest deal, but if you can avoid duping colors, it’s just better, and both Son Family and the Uni Rep/Uni Survival teams could avoid it just fine
    Basically: Ultra Sign was the murderer, Ultra Gohan was an accomplice

  • @spark5010
    @spark5010 2 місяці тому

    Zenkai Jiren getting Slaughtered by UUI is the cause of Evoken to fall off.... Before if they got caught atleast they had Jiren to tank... but after UUI they had no where to go

  • @mceasy8915
    @mceasy8915 2 місяці тому

    Thank god I spent my cc on beast

  • @AlbanianGoku
    @AlbanianGoku Місяць тому

    i wanted them so bad when they released just for them to fall off lol

  • @xmanking689
    @xmanking689 2 місяці тому

    Got them to ten stars just for ultra gohan to one shot

  • @giritina99
    @giritina99 2 місяці тому

    They are some cheeks now but with a double zenkai they arent too shabby

  • @Chris-tf1sv
    @Chris-tf1sv 2 місяці тому

    i still love them

  • @Beast_boy0888
    @Beast_boy0888 2 місяці тому

    When they come I do not spend any cc 😂 because his lf is trash, spend my all cc 25k beast Gohan and now I satisfy 😊

  • @sufimart1
    @sufimart1 2 місяці тому +1

    ofcourse this was the only unit I got from fest

  • @Broly_06
    @Broly_06 2 місяці тому

    Evoken is my best unit, to me they haven't fallen off

  • @DBCooney
    @DBCooney 2 місяці тому +1

    bro... i spent 34k cc. I mained top, i was so happy that we got a new one. my evoken is 8 stars, or 1 red star right now, but my top team is really insanely good so i still find value in him but its still very upsetting 🤷

  • @maisan_jaffar8670
    @maisan_jaffar8670 2 місяці тому

    I just think that there element factor green is week its only carried by ultra rose and fsk, and the way evoken gets spotlight is if it’s used passively, one think I want for a plat equip if the make one is type neutral with vegeta and more damage inflicted by 30%

  • @mihaicovaciu6634
    @mihaicovaciu6634 2 місяці тому +1

    They are simple doing only long combos and no damage with nothing to offer than that.

  • @zech_480
    @zech_480 2 місяці тому

    I got them to 7 stars and used them a bit but I got gogeta at 7 now so I js use fusions

  • @Despilce
    @Despilce 2 місяці тому

    In my opinion EvoKen never had much popularity. When they were revealed everyone loved them BUT ONCE THERE WAS A FAKE OUT AND BEAST WAS REVEALED everyone did a 180 on them and said "I don't want you anymore" its like that Toy Story meme of Andy dropping the toy onto the floor. Mad disrespect for EvoKen.
    Still a bit salty I only got him to 4 stars, putting 15k into their banner and getting every other LF + 1% Frieza

  • @scientistartsandstudy7088
    @scientistartsandstudy7088 2 місяці тому +4

    Everyone is falling off bcz anni unit will break the game

  • @TheNeXuS_L
    @TheNeXuS_L Місяць тому

    If it was a LF kaioken it would still be relevant. Vegeta brings em down like always

  • @LegendarySaiyanChronicle
    @LegendarySaiyanChronicle 2 місяці тому

    Bro roasted.

  • @z3nithflame
    @z3nithflame Місяць тому

    Bro already needs a plat

  • @nikaisito8364
    @nikaisito8364 Місяць тому

    14 stars (A Plat please ☠️)

  • @Jedi_flodux
    @Jedi_flodux 2 місяці тому

    I don’t think the fell off, I still run them

  • @sussussy255
    @sussussy255 2 місяці тому +1

    i mean the unit has vegeta in it

  • @Weiser_Gaming
    @Weiser_Gaming 2 місяці тому

    And yet they are Tier C in boost and there’s newer units in Tier B 😂😂

  • @youtubefan1735
    @youtubefan1735 Місяць тому

    Short answer is that the unit starts with vegeta

  • @KonoComplex
    @KonoComplex 2 місяці тому

    The fact that they’re the only unit I pulled from fest 😭😭😭

    • @doggr123
      @doggr123 Місяць тому

      the only unit i pulled from fest was the golden frieza 😭🙏

  • @ThatsANiceWall
    @ThatsANiceWall 2 місяці тому

    Bro all they need a guranteed green card on tag switch and stronger debuffs when being attacked

    • @razortk77g95
      @razortk77g95 2 місяці тому

      They need a plat that gives immunity to Ki reduction for 8 timer counts on using a green card

    • @ThatsANiceWall
      @ThatsANiceWall 2 місяці тому

      @razortk77g95 no they don't. They get 100 ki on the first green and ki on tag switch +cost reduction

    • @razortk77g95
      @razortk77g95 2 місяці тому

      @@ThatsANiceWall Lil bro how they gonna use the grn card with no Ki....the no Ki reduction immunity is really hurting they're combo potential

    • @ThatsANiceWall
      @ThatsANiceWall 2 місяці тому

      @@razortk77g95 tag switching grants ki

  • @dankorot7400
    @dankorot7400 2 місяці тому

    They still do good when i use them so 🤷

  • @browthjoke9090
    @browthjoke9090 2 місяці тому

    I have him 14 star.

  • @Dbyull
    @Dbyull 2 місяці тому

    Its just the anti combo meta 😢

  • @nik-1844
    @nik-1844 2 місяці тому

    they didnt fall of they are still goated

  • @Antonio_Dude
    @Antonio_Dude 2 місяці тому +1

    How tf is UVB still top 20?

    • @Zakashi
      @Zakashi  2 місяці тому +2

      He’s an amazing Solo unit. Way more dangerous off rip than EvoKen unfortunately.

    • @Antonio_Dude
      @Antonio_Dude 2 місяці тому

      @@Zakashi damn

  • @juliusrivera2082
    @juliusrivera2082 2 місяці тому

    Wait they fell of for me there still good granted I barely play against a random but still there good ( I mostly play against friends)

  • @What_is_a_door
    @What_is_a_door 2 місяці тому

    Imma be honest
    I've been using this unit since they've released and even still using them now
    They're my favorite unit in the game and I can say that they are still really good
    They never fell off in my eyes
    (I have em 4 stars too)

  • @DivineMind9
    @DivineMind9 2 місяці тому +1

    Game is getting boring.. Anny is lit of course but same old things we need a Brand new mode not just a auto mechanics for passive bots

  • @jake1766
    @jake1766 2 місяці тому +1

    Red Beasthan is a bit washed.

    • @LuhZay3
      @LuhZay3 2 місяці тому

      Agreed

  • @omega1926
    @omega1926 2 місяці тому +2

    No comments? Lemme fix that

  • @malaydey2789
    @malaydey2789 2 місяці тому +1

    This is impossible😮😮😮😮

  • @VegitoRules1.0
    @VegitoRules1.0 2 місяці тому

    Only? Beast Gohan is useless...Atleast these guys are fun.

  • @biffcunningham2603
    @biffcunningham2603 2 місяці тому

    Meta is anticombo is why

  • @shaikshabbir9350
    @shaikshabbir9350 2 місяці тому

    They fell because it's vegeta, nothing much 😂😂😂.

  • @marlinvr8441
    @marlinvr8441 Місяць тому

    i threw 200 buck into these mfs 💀💀

  • @OljtiCocaj
    @OljtiCocaj 2 місяці тому

    Bardku also fell off a bit

    • @venomousteam1732
      @venomousteam1732 2 місяці тому

      Well yeah, ever since ultra ssj2 gohan showed up bardku wasn't being used as much anymore

  • @Saskue25
    @Saskue25 2 місяці тому

    64th

  • @Aziz_Kaab
    @Aziz_Kaab 2 місяці тому +1

    Third

  • @ryuga_dx
    @ryuga_dx 2 місяці тому

    They didn’t fall off u just dont have them high stars and u dont know how to maintain a combo (not u zakashi)

    • @midnightbat344
      @midnightbat344 2 місяці тому +2

      The thing is they off at late game

    • @ThatsANiceWall
      @ThatsANiceWall 2 місяці тому

      ​@midnightbat344 they do anything but fall off at late games bro 😂

    • @ryuga_dx
      @ryuga_dx 2 місяці тому

      @@ThatsANiceWall literally put them on a good synergised team and they’re cooking their blast damage is so underrated

    • @kingki1185
      @kingki1185 2 місяці тому

      i have them 9 stars with a zenkai buff, and they get outdamaged by a 5 star uui with no zenkai buffs, and in half the time

    • @ThatsANiceWall
      @ThatsANiceWall 2 місяці тому

      @kingki1185 what about the equipment? U could very well mistakenly put the wrong equips, and how much damage they do measured card by card isn't their thing. It's the long ass combos that do.

  • @mohammadhany6396
    @mohammadhany6396 2 місяці тому

    first view

  • @jasonhearn5818
    @jasonhearn5818 2 місяці тому

    They fell off courtesy of the devs

  • @thetruesquad5059
    @thetruesquad5059 Місяць тому

    Cap lol

  • @therealhero15
    @therealhero15 2 місяці тому

    You can't fall off if you were never good

    • @Zakashi
      @Zakashi  2 місяці тому

      Reach.

    • @Cubaz_
      @Cubaz_ 2 місяці тому

      Nah bro he was literally top 5 at one point😭

    • @razortk77g95
      @razortk77g95 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Cubaz_Blud the unit was top 2,just behind beast