Javelin F.(A.W.) Mk.9 - The Low BR Missile Carrying Flying Contradiction [War Thunder]

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  • The Javelin is a plane that people tend to either love or hate. In this video, I try to see why people either love it or hate it and see if it's actually great or trash.
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    Video Title: Javelin F.(A.W.) Mk.9 - The Low BR Missile Carrying Flying Contradiction [War Thunder]
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  • @MrEsphoenix
    @MrEsphoenix 9 місяців тому +72

    This thing was famous for an incedent where one broke the sound barrier flying low in a shallow dive over london and broke a load of windows. Try that in WT and your wings will drop off, but then many of the British aircraft fall apart too early in WT due to Britain's over cautious maximum speed in the pilot handbooks which gaijin take as an absolute maximum.

    • @WadsworthGaming
      @WadsworthGaming 9 місяців тому +2

      TELL ME ABOUT IT

    • @MrEsphoenix
      @MrEsphoenix 9 місяців тому +3

      @@WadsworthGaming It's been ages since I watched the documentary about it so I'm afraid it'll be light on the details. Basically when finalising testing one created a low level sonic boom over London at midnight, damaging people's property and causing outcry, especially in the press.
      Gloster officially apologized, but it was widely believed that they did it on purpose to prove it could go supersonic, as the project had had a shakey start, with a test pilot being killed, and claims (including from an ex employee who had quit and joined a news paper as an editor) that it couldn't.
      Edit: I can't post links on UA-cam, but the pilot was Robert Jeffries if that helps you look up more info.

    • @WadsworthGaming
      @WadsworthGaming 9 місяців тому +2

      @@MrEsphoenix Oh sorry, I meant that like when complains about something and then someone agreeing replies with "tell me about it" 😂
      specifically about the overspeed limits in the Javelin manual, Gaijin doesnt understand that its an imposed limit, not a structural limitation
      But thank you for explaining the Javelin incident 👍

    • @MrEsphoenix
      @MrEsphoenix 9 місяців тому +2

      @@WadsworthGaming ahh haha. My bad, it's been a long day.

    • @WadsworthGaming
      @WadsworthGaming 9 місяців тому +1

      @@MrEsphoenix No worries king 👌

  • @HengyOfficial
    @HengyOfficial 9 місяців тому +18

    couldnt really have a good time with this, its another case of interceptors having no place in warthunder. however the plane itself is really neat

  • @LostSoul6364
    @LostSoul6364 9 місяців тому +4

    Every nation in Update Supersonic: Gets a supersonic aircraft with missiles and unique stats with decent performance
    Gaijin to Britain in Update Supersonic: Yeah, you get a huge fragile brick with 2 afterburners, however, you wont be able to go even transsonic because we said so. Also your energy retention is horrible, and you're bleeding speed in turns like a MiG - 21. Oh, by the way, did I mention that your brand new "supersonic" plane has a 12k repair cost? yeah, take it or leave it.

  • @kazsmaz
    @kazsmaz 9 місяців тому +7

    You didn't get up tiered nearly as much as I do in this airplane. I constantly go against F104s, where there is literally nothing you can do.

    • @nathprasenjit0342
      @nathprasenjit0342 9 місяців тому

      F104s are so fast they don't render if you are 1000 m alt and they are very low and boom and zoom you got flares r60s you are an mig 21 mf doesn't matter you are dead to aim 9b 😂

    • @ratatatatata5290
      @ratatatatata5290 9 місяців тому +1

      You know how video editing works dog?

    • @Mr.Brttttt
      @Mr.Brttttt 8 місяців тому

      you make that seem like it changes something@@ratatatatata5290

  • @n1co2017
    @n1co2017 9 місяців тому +7

    i really wish Britain got some Avro Canada planes like the arrow or just Canadian aircraft in general like the cf-104 or maybe stuff like the p-40 warhawk

    • @creepincreepy261
      @creepincreepy261 9 місяців тому

      that would be a cool event vehicle

    • @commandoepsilon4664
      @commandoepsilon4664 8 місяців тому

      Won't happen, if it is good/useful and Canadian it goes to America. Britain only gets Canadian stuff when it is bad (for example the Canadian ADATS on the M113, instead of the one mounted on the Warrior)

    • @n1co2017
      @n1co2017 8 місяців тому

      @@commandoepsilon4664 Avro is a British company so no it would go to Britain and they previously said that stuff like the LAV lll would go to Britain and aircraft while they haven't said anything it wouldn't make sense to give those to the US since they already have p-40's and f-104's.

    • @commandoepsilon4664
      @commandoepsilon4664 8 місяців тому

      @@n1co2017 *looks at the Hawker Hunter in the German tech tree* Sure it would.

  • @piotra71
    @piotra71 7 місяців тому

    I enjoy your reviews and stock to spaded. I usually listen to videos as I'm pretty busy so watching gameplay is not for me. Good luck with YT and hope to hear more videos from you 😀

  • @loganrapp696
    @loganrapp696 9 місяців тому +2

    hey do you think you could make a video on the class 3? there's been a bunch of changes in the game since your video on it, with many changes being very recent in terms of time.

  • @chanchito4401
    @chanchito4401 9 місяців тому

    I was literally thinking about playing this thing yesterday

  • @largelobster6996
    @largelobster6996 9 місяців тому +3

    I think you'd like the Scimitar next

  • @wildbanana2.067
    @wildbanana2.067 9 місяців тому +1

    PLEASE do a video on the state of japan 9.3 ground with the new br changes ALWAYS getting up tiered to 10.3 even facing leo 2a4's

  • @attezirux
    @attezirux 9 місяців тому

    I was going for this plane just because it gets 4 missiles...now I dont want it lol. Ty Tankenstein for save me time

  • @LastGoatKnight
    @LastGoatKnight 9 місяців тому +2

    This jet has the highest aspect ratio low aspect wings I've ever seen😅

  • @TomPrickVixen
    @TomPrickVixen 8 місяців тому +2

    The Red Tops do that too! In a typical British fashion they fail where even a R-3S would hit, or they simply self-destruct few sec after launch. The good news is that this plane is rank 6.
    Ill try to use it on this event do to its rank/BR, but based on that in one game i only got 1700 scores for 3 player-kills (with guns) in a rank 6 jet i'm not sure if its wort the effort! Should I try just bombing?

  • @greystash1750
    @greystash1750 8 місяців тому

    Having just spaded this, some advice for anyone brave enough to try. Take 2 missiles and 4 guns, as seen on this video the missiles will often pull harder to avoid hitting a target than they do to down one. Better to take 4 cannons to shotgun planes than risk relying on missiles with a kill rate lower than aim9b

  • @duskycotw8404
    @duskycotw8404 9 місяців тому +4

    The premium German Sea Hawk Mk.100 has AIM-9Bs at 8.0, it can face the Spitfire Mk 24 which sits at 7.0, let that sink in.

    • @seuchenvater5687
      @seuchenvater5687 9 місяців тому +2

      You say that as if aim 9bs would do anything against a spitfire lol

    • @duskycotw8404
      @duskycotw8404 9 місяців тому

      @@seuchenvater5687 missile coming at you at 1.7 mach would probably do something

    • @UrMumSaysHiWT
      @UrMumSaysHiWT 9 місяців тому +2

      Lol, good luck even being able to launch a AIM9B at the Spitfire MK24

    • @duskycotw8404
      @duskycotw8404 9 місяців тому

      @@UrMumSaysHiWT when you're stalled out its not hard

    • @UrMumSaysHiWT
      @UrMumSaysHiWT 9 місяців тому +1

      @@duskycotw8404 You often see stalled out Spits? You have a extremly small seekerhead on the AIM9B, it can be dodged by a very gentle turn, you have to be in gunrange to lock on a prop, and good luck getting on it’s tail in a Sea Hawk

  • @Datroflshopper
    @Datroflshopper 9 місяців тому +1

    The firestreak is good for bombers and head-ons only imo, the radar is a bit redundant when you have them

    • @Ashes-001
      @Ashes-001 9 місяців тому +2

      i think youre thinking of the fireflash missiles (my beloved)

  • @ObjectPe-
    @ObjectPe- 9 місяців тому

    the jav jet

  • @Pan_Nutella
    @Pan_Nutella 9 місяців тому

    another great video but where is video about new br changes?

    • @Tankenstein
      @Tankenstein  9 місяців тому

      I would have done one, but I found out about it late and other people have already spoken about it.

    • @wildbanana2.067
      @wildbanana2.067 9 місяців тому

      @@Tankenstein PLEASE do a video on the state of japan 9.3 ground with the new br changes ALWAYS getting up tiered to 10.3 even facing leo 2a4's

  • @Deadtrigger777
    @Deadtrigger777 9 місяців тому

    yeah that missle will not hit/explode at below .60km in my experience

  • @hyperionhamster3064
    @hyperionhamster3064 9 місяців тому

    It looks like a kite

  • @user-fd1mc8tb9k
    @user-fd1mc8tb9k 9 місяців тому

    it's sad that not even tankstien did not see a hidden Gem on the soviet Tree AND it's a MiG-21
    and i ask people to fly it and they refuse to fly it cuz they say it's bad and i bet they say that they think it's not worth it
    and this Gem is the MiG-21 F-13
    yes low ammo and bad missiles but you get better , lighter Airframe and this plane has so much potential to overRun an F-104A and i did shoot down an F-104A using it and i don't see it in the match very often not even DEFYN made a review on it
    yes Ik J-7II is there but these 2 are a hidden Gem in USSR and China

    • @jojomaster7675
      @jojomaster7675 9 місяців тому

      I don't have the F-13, but I do have the PFM which is fairly similar (it's got a slightly better engine, but is heavier with more drag, the 30mm is replaced by a GSh23 and it gets better radar, but no way to really use it), and it's not that good. Sure, it can work, as long as you keep your speed and some altitude, and go after distracted pilots, but you are very reliant on your team not disentigrating. Because if you're left to fight with no teammates to occupy the enemies, you're kinda screwed. You have no firepower or range in a headon, you're very voulnrable to missiles, and if you turn you're dead. So basically, if an enemy is dedicated enough to killing you, he will do so and there's basically nothing you can do about it.
      And on top of all that, you're flareless at 9.3. So you fall into the black hole which is 10.0/10.3. Meaning that every match you face planes which can kill you by clicking 2 buttons. The worst of those being harriers, which will actually catch you if you fall below mach for even a little bit.

    • @user-fd1mc8tb9k
      @user-fd1mc8tb9k 9 місяців тому

      @@jojomaster7675 yes all of what you said is good and very true but since later versions of MiG-21's does lose speed in a slight of turn not only the earlier ones

    • @jojomaster7675
      @jojomaster7675 8 місяців тому

      @@user-fd1mc8tb9k Yeah, but the later migs get good missiles and flares, so they don't need to get as close to their enemies, don't need to stay on them, and can dodge missiles much easier.
      The early mig-21s are usable, but I wouldn't call them very good, simply because of their reliance on their team and very lackluster armament, which runs out very quickly.

    • @user-fd1mc8tb9k
      @user-fd1mc8tb9k 8 місяців тому +1

      @@jojomaster7675 well thanks for the informative subject and have a good day

  • @GewelReal
    @GewelReal 9 місяців тому

    "even with fully working engines this thing will often crash because you don't have enough thrust"
    huh???? you have the highest T/W of any 8.3 bruh

    • @mbravos
      @mbravos 9 місяців тому +1

      When damaged. Just the slightest hint of yellow on any part of the plane will drastically decrease its speed.

    • @commandoepsilon4664
      @commandoepsilon4664 8 місяців тому +2

      If you've never played the Javelin then you couldn't possibly understand. Taking even minor cover damage has a very high probability of causing so much drag you literally cannot gain speed. The most egregious case I have seen was after a head-on with a SAAB I had an orange inner wing and a yellow wing tip, in a full nose down dive with after burner on I couldn't get past 250 km/h. I slow fell from 5000m completely unable to do anything because of what could generously be called cosmetic damage.

  • @aperson6996
    @aperson6996 4 місяці тому

    Not hating but I’m not sure a guy who happily full commits planes when he doesn’t need to and says ‘well at least I got four kills’ is really in a position to review a plane like this - gonna stick to defyn.

    • @aperson6996
      @aperson6996 4 місяці тому

      Also ‘look at my speed bleed’ - proceeds to do a full elevator turn and complains when his literal delta wing starts to lose speed… bruh what is this guy even doing