AWESOME Project on the Anycubic Kobra 3!
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- The Anycubic Kobra 3 and ACE PRO is out, and their 4 Pantone Color Institute filaments are as well! Let's do a STAR WARS project!
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Sorry, this was disapointing, that it was the same models we've seen on other channels and are direct from their marketing dept - feels like a paid spot more than anything. The pantone filament, something no one has mentioned, is not pantone colored, there are no pantone swatches for thoes colors, the 'pantone institute' is pantone's merchandising licensing arm, they do not use actual pantone colors, it's like a 'crayola brand mp3 player" there's no crayons in it. the pantone filament is just some random colors that they bought the licensure to put that logo on it but it doesn't actually mean anything at all.
Something marketing departments, even ones for huge mega corporations keep forgetting over and over again, is that humans who aren't paid to say something, do not speak like this, no one is saying "hey did you use the anycubic pantone institute nebula purple to print that?", having you keep repeating the full brand names over and over again - does a lot more concious and subconcious damage to your brand than I think you've been paid to endure. I hope they paid you well.
So your high is what your saying? Seriously you either 1. didnt watch the video or 2. are so blitz on bad grass that you didnt see the entire part with the hueforge...THAT NOBODY HAS DONE BEFORE. or the other animals that he printed that are not Anycubic files.......
The slicer is disappointing -- can't wait until we get an OrcaSlicer profile for this and tune down the poop ourselves. Otherwise, not a bad machine.
I agree...hell even a dark mode would be great!!! But ya it sux but this is my 1st time in multi colour so meh.. love the printer!!! Can't wait to mod it (have a few already done)
I created an orca slicer profile. But I noticed that the flushing volumes are pretty much ignored. I confirmed this with Anycubic's Orca Slicer beta, which does not have a flushing volume button at all. So to tune down the flushing, Anycubic needs to make some firmware changes.
@@D_Deimos Yeah, they're not really compatible right now. :(
@@D_Deimos damn.. well i hope they can open the ACE system as well not just the printer. if you have a profile are able to post it?
Awwww;((( ahhhhh hahahaha awwww:(((( miiieeeeennnn:( aah
Get a TD-1 to calibrate the filament TD numbers. Nice to know it works on the Kobra 3.
Mine's expected to arrive July 1st, so excited!! Definitely will use this as a ref if I want to try Hueforge for some birthday gifts.
Thanks for showing us the new printer and "ACE"!
I was hoping to say hi and share a high-five at Rapid, but I never saw you. I did run into some other 3D youtube folks, and numerous people who told me they ran into you, so I must have been there at the same time you were there. Whenever your name comes up, people are always saying nice things.
Saw some really cool tech at the show. High-5!
It would be so great if the Pantone Institute would be involved in 3D printing!
And than every roll costs like 50-100% more 😅
The pantaloons?? Why do we need underwear involved with 3D printing????
@@ized88that little? XD
@@ized88 Also, by using Pantone, ownership of your prints goes automatically to them as well.
I'm waiting for mine to ship still. I per-ordered it way back. I was miffed that people can already get them from Amazon already when mine hasn't even shipped yet. However I am getting a lot of bonus stuff. I ordered it for a very specific problem that basically trashed my A1 mini because the AMS lite couldn't handle it. Researching it the normal AMS looks like it can. I saw the Kobra 3 with the ACE at the price of the A1. With the potential of 1. doing the project I want and 2 getting a 2nd ace for 8 colors. Which will expand my project I'm working on. Something I haven't seen yet in the 3d space so I'm being tight lipped on it :)
I just got the kobra 3 and the nozzle keeps riding the bed. Z offset keeps changing around and I can't get it to print. Any ideas to fix?
I was wondering what will happen to companies like Mosaic now that a lot of the new printers have multicolor built into them? I have always been facinated with the option to do multi-colors, and had an allocation on a Palette 3 Pro but due to uncertainty on printer compability I never got one. I know that you did a review at some point, but do you still have it and use it for anything? Greetings from Denmark :)
How did you slice the Hue Forge file in Anycubic Slicer?
Hmm... I'm gonna need to look at that filament.
Multi-color printing... So hawt right now...
No, but really, those are some beautiful colors! and good job on that helmet. I love HueForge! Imma start making puzzles with it!
Great idea!
Wonder if you could control how it poops could make it purge close to the plate and move around a bit to make different shapes like soft serve ice cream and others
For the waste poop, is there a way to have the slicer instead have the printer print a second model that is utilitarian? If you print two things at once, the utilitarian model could be any color because it's a tool and aesthetics are not important. No waste.
Agreed. That would be absolutely wonderful.
Bambu calls it "flush into object" but I'm not sure if this can do something similar.
@@noahorr3480 thanks for that info. I just got 2 Bambu printers (still in box). Great to know that is an option.
Some people add an other stl on the printplate and use that as a purge block. But i forgot wich slicer this could do.
Ordered mine a month ago and am still waiting for delivery
I got the preorder bundle coming to me in july. I'm so excited to try multi material printing. Dissolvable supports especially!
That said: do you know if locally (Seattle area) there's any place that will accept our printer poop for recycling? I'd hate to generate so much waste for a landfill.
How bad is the layer lines?
I was confused by the title since I thought just about any printer could do Hueforge.
Technically they can although having a system like this makes it seamless and automatic
any multi color printer can do it automatically and a single color printer can do it in stages
Not multicolor. You have to have a multicolor printer to do them unless you want to stand there doing 100 manual filament changes
@@anthonylong5870I think you are mixing up multi coloured prints and hueforge. Hueforge generally are 4 to 8 colours, manual change is not that arduous.
@@somhunt5446 Hueforges do a lot of multicolor detail. Each detail can be another color change, they dont go in layers like a lithophane
I think they won over Bambu with the ace pro. The filament drying feature is such a good feature
@@yobtnirp3D probably see that on the Bambu AMS 2
wouldn't be surprised to see bambu update the A1 to be able to use the full sized AMS units, not to mention able to use multiple of them since the A1 has 2 ports on the back already, and a space for a 3rd. Meaning that the A1 or any successors they build onto that platform, could use at least 3 AMS units, its already got the 4 in 1 plug on top for the AMS Lite. They could even do an update to it to make it be a 5 in 1 port, so you can use the 4 from the Lite, and 1 from the standard AMS for 8 colors.
They also need to release a 350x350 printer to keep up with Creality who came out with their large format K2.
The way it loads is better, the way the spools can move freely is better, the heated chamber is better, and even though it still poops a lot it is actually about 30% less than the Bambu does. Its just better than the Bambu
@@SirLANsalot Sounds like a LOT of hopes n dreams from the Bambu crowd LOL
@@SirLANsalot they won’t make the ams viable with the a1 or mini that would kill sales and they don’t want to do that.
Has anyone tried using the ACE Pro with a P1S Bambu Lab printing?
how to hueforge with a 5th colour. i.e. change filament 1 during the print from one colour to another. and have last colour go back to 1. specifically the ACE, can you swao filament out during a print?
Theres an option in the anycubic slicer for a EXT spool, im guessing you would need some type of adapter which isnt yet available.. also not available is the 8 colour two ACE PRO so, will have to wait and see
May I ask what brand/model of torch you used to clean up that print in this video?
Ooh that was one from The Hacksmith :)
So if you have to take the purge block into account, you really don't have a true 250mm x 250mm usable print surface to utilize for prints. This did not occur to me while watching all the printer reviews for this type of multi-color printer until you showed us your little hiccup with the lizard's foot printing into the purge block. I'm really interested in this printer, but quite a few of my prints would take up most of the 250mm surface. Is it possible to disable use of the purge block in the slicing program? Thanks for the great review!!!
The anycubic kobra 3 kombo includes the pack of 4 filaments?
you know we're all dying to know how ace compares to bambu's thing.
well i've ordered one, but i'm worried about the quality don't seems to be very good, i'm i wrong?
They are very good check aurora tech tests
So the purge block intersected just an axolittle?
😂😂😂
So I just opened my K3 but it’s not set up yet. I did see in the slicer there is maybe some retraction settings in the “Advanced Settings” that we can possibly lower the amount of poop ? Kind of what the A1 series is doing in the beta software. Need to do some playing around and testing.
the retraction option is now out of beta and just part of bambu studio now as a clickable option. it's still under 'advanced' but users don't need to go get the beta version to make it work
Here's a fun challenge. Get some Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black, and White filament and try to 3d print an image.
absolutely 100% hands down prusa mk4 + mmu3 is the best single nozzle multi-color printer on the market. Not only is the waste like half the competition, the transition time is also less than half. For color prints nothing beats the mk4+mmu3 except a multi nozzle printer like the XL. I saw on aurora tech how much waste is uses. It's more than double what I would have needed for the same model. Hell I think her waste was 3 times what I needed. This is because the mk4 does it's best to remove the filament and as much as possible. Bambu and anycubic are cutting it.
The mk4 has a few advantages for colour swapping. First it has only a standard flow hotend, barely longer than a v6. This means less material that needs to be flushed, but also means that the print speed itself is lower.
The other thing is the hotend and extruder combo. The hotend has the really long heatbreak tubes which allows for efficient filament cooling and the extruder has high grip and high extrusion force, which definitely helps with their filament stamping like they call it. This empties the hotend before the colour swap, so colour bleed is minimal. I also do this on ome of my printers as it reduces the purge amount significantly. The material in the hotend before the swap is already lost, so its more efficient to flush it so there is less purging itself needed. A cutter only add 3 to 4mm of waste per swap, not much considering that the used hotends on bambulab or anycubic have about 30mm of melt zone. Just for comparison, the prusa doesn't even have 20mm. So you probably could reduce the waste quite a lot on bambu and anycubic by rewriting the swap gcode, but they will always produce more waste than a mk4 due to hotend length, but will also outspeed the mk4 during the printing itself
@@kilianlindlbauer8277 from what I've seen on average the mk4 does color faster than any Bambu. But only in color
@@awilliams1701 yep, only the colour swaps are faster. So if you are only doing multi colour, a mk4 will pump out more prints over the course of time. If you only do occasionally multi colour prints, then a bambu or anycubic will be more productive in the same. Where this point is is hard to determine
I agree but its VERY difficult to get an MMU or MMU 2 setup and going...Its a kit that a lot of people couldnt assemble or configure correctly
@kilianlindlbauer8277 I mostly do color. Also the mk4 quality is way better than the kobra. And at least as good as Bambu. Sometimes better. At least according to aurora tech.
I never got that spring knife to work
Update: apparently Anycubic has now added their own photo maker in their slicer [called 3D Photo]. Right now it can do only 4 colors, but curious for a second video to see how it compares to Hueforge.
You did not mention but I think they should make the 4 color storage box also a dehumidifier?
It sure is!
Ive had zero luck getting ace to work, the machine just keeps asking for me to associate colors with the spools and wont do anything on the screen but keep asking to pick a color. Why is anycubic software so obtuse.
Hey Joel, can you-lease share the site where you got that Switch Blade STL?
(no rubber band) FULLY PRINTABLE Otf Fidget Toy on printables
If only we could use the purges that make the poop as infill material... not that we could use on hueforge prints but regular prints why not?
put the poops into a panini press and press out flat sheets of PLA, then laser cut the flat sheets.
OMG a panini press I did not think of that!
Can it be done ? Instead of pooping it out , use it as an infill ? ❤
I got my unit a week ago. Camera has not shown up yet. i hope they can open the ACE system not just the printer. I want to put the ACE on my Voron and klipper. They will sell more ACE units than printers. I give the printer 7 out of 10. The ACE gets 8 out of 10. It would get more if it was not so slow changing filaments. A 2.5 hour print is 15 hours with many colors.
It says it can do 8 colors and that shows in the touch screen but the implementation has not been finished yet. It has potential but its not done yet.
underextrusion on preisntalled models?
Anycubic Ace Pro on the spool box = Anycubic Anycubic Colour Engine Pro?
I need a tutorial on hueforge lmao i have booted up program 3x and am just lost
honestly it's very powerful but very very very bad UX/UI, the developer who made it doesn't really understand this and gets aggro with users who say it's not user friendly - he stresses that it's not to create recreations of photos (what everyone wants) but to create essentially pop-art re-interpretations of the images. Something that angers a lot of users like me who bought the app, is that the image of ASOKA is used rampantly to sell the app, but it's not possible to make that Asoka with the app, you actually have to do a bunch of photoshopping in two completely separate instances of the app (her face, and then everything else) and then combine the two hueforges in the slicer, it is a huge complicated mess and users called him out on it so he made a tutorial just for that... I tried to follow along but it's so obtuse and he glosses over everything important that I just ended up frustrated and also have never produced any myself, I just print some others have created.
It's still an amazing product, but the fact that Lithophones are possible which are direct reproductions of photos, means that someone someday soon will combine the two and we'll finally have cmyk printing easily without spending HOURS sliding sliders.
separately, if you're interested in full color printing check out TeachingTech's latest video about sublimation printing on 3d pirnters
@@aeonjoey3d i tried to sit down and watch his tutorial from years ago and every single time i get distracted or side tracked and dont learn anything lol
So why is there both transition poop and a purge tower? Shouldn't there be one or the other?
The poop allows for the color to change, and the tower allows the nozzle to normalize the pressure
@@3DPrintingNerd first I've ever heard of 'normalizing the pressure' after a colour change, but OK.
Thanks!
I turned off the tower and it looks like 3d printing didn't get too much worse.
Nothing like my anycubic mega s 😂
Was that a hacksmith minisaber at 4:40?
YES!
I only have a small Mars 2 resin printer, so I don't know if this is possible or not. But it seems like a no-brainer to. If it can be done. Then PLEASE credit me for the idea.
WHY NOT just program the printer to print the "poop" filament as a fill structure of the model? And do the same with any outside supports.
The printer already knows what is and isn't both a fill and what is a support. Shouldn't it, in turn, use that to remove possible waste filament?
always ✋
I wish I would have seen this BEFORE pouring $$$$$ into an Ender 3 V3 SE.
pAnToNe iNsTiTutE
You should see the INSANE hatred from Bambu clan members in the 3D printing groups. They are so terrified about this machine being better than their Bambu's. Hint* I own a Bambu and I would rather have the Kobra 3 combo. I believe this is going to be the printer of the year. It just has so many new features and such a great build quality (I got to play with a friends). And for the money you cannot come close to ANYTHING like this
trust me the bambu is better, the kobra may be faster but overall quality, reliability and tech bambu is still and probably will be for a long time the best
@@dagurorarinsson2827 And thats completely wrong....I own 2 Bambu printers. They have been the most trouble of any of the 14 printers i own. Constant issues with the AMS electrical issues, belt issues.....And the quality is nothing special, especially on taller prints where Bambu's all show banding.....TRUST ME with first habd knowledge and 1000's of print hours, Bambu is a waste of money and theres no reason to even consider them with the new, better printers coming out
@@dagurorarinsson2827 You are stating an opinion based on very few facts. I have a Bambu and I've got spares from Bambu because it failed. And the AMS is cr** and finicky and not even heated.
@@dagurorarinsson2827 I HAVE 2 Bambu and i have used the Kobra 3...TRUST ME, the Kobra prints better
@@mrfoameruk Absolutely the same ive gone through with Bambu
Why is there poop? I currently have a lotmaxx shark v2. I think you did a video on the original. It's a 2 in 1 out. It never pooped. It did a purge block, these new machines have a purge block and poop. Seems excessive.
I never understood that either, I have a similar setup, 2-1 and works like a charm.
It has to do with how the filament is removed from the hot end before swapping. In the poop versions, here and Bambu, they cut the filament just after the extruder. This limits clogs as the filament is pulled through its tubes.
Downside… there is extra filament that needs to be purged from the nozzle. So poop and then a drag across the purge tower for flow.
I have done 0 poop on my Bambu and just used a purge tower. It can work, but depends on the colors involved.
Long high flow hotends need more purge. If i have a hotend with 30mm long melt zone, i must at least purge 30mm of filament plus extra to clear the colour contamination. If i do 30mm in the purge tower or 15 in poop and 15 in the tower doesn't matter. The cutter add a little bit of waste per swap, a few mm, but means you get perfect reliability without the need for tuning, like you would need to do on a prusa mk3/mk4 or other mmu systems without cutters
@@realgoose correct except one thing: it's not a 'purge' tower, it's a 'prime' tower, priming, like 'priming the pump' primes the pressure in the nozzle similar to how a priming line on the build plate gets it ready to print the layer; filament swaps cause pressure differentials so to avoid defects and color contamination, the priming helps deliver more pure color and more consistent perimeter quality. just a technicality difference, but neither Bambu, nor Kobra, nor the Prusa XL purge in that tower, it's for priming.
@@aeonjoey3d thanks for the clarification. It is possible to turn the prime tower into a purge tower. Turn the poop to 0 for all filament changes and beef up the priming tower size. Poop gets reduced to very little…however the best way I have found to deal with the waste is to select a sacrificial model to become the purge/prime area. Result will be a random colored model.
Why couldn't you show the printer printing more???
Is this printer mixing the colors?
I don't believe in copyrighting colors.
Orca slicer or bambu slicer and a 400mm build area, are my desires for a new machine. Also not happy with the Pantone thing, no one should own a color and they, Pantone is a jerk about color stuff
Did anyone else get their printer and not get the pantone or the camera?
I'm not sure on who gets the Pantone filaments - but I did not get a camera. Is that an option now?
@@3DPrintingNerd it was part of the early bird special when I ordered 2 months ago. Or at least that's what I thought
Why even bother having a model if you're going to leave it in the box? May as well just have a picture
Printer poop should be inspiration for any multiple multi-machine owner to get into hobby injection molding as the hobby machines have reached reasonable prices and you could likely get the poo "re-sized" with a few buck thrift store meat grinder/blender/...
Poop is such a turnoff 😢
please, no more bed slingers...
Joel, I just CANNOT BELIEVE you went through a kobra machine without using the mandatory meme from G.I. Joe even once. Totally unwatchable this way! ua-cam.com/video/rUw8cN6R8o0/v-deo.html
There’s enough poop in the world. This is why the tool changers are superior imo. Great video High Five!🖐️
Thank you!
Some people don't wanna pay $7500 to $8500 for 5TH XL
@@Condamine123456 then don’t, doesn’t change the fact that they are better
@@Condamine123456 The XL with all 5 heads is $4k Not $8k...And yes it is superior
@anthonylong5870 not everybody lives in america you know there are other countries out there in Australia it costs close to $8000 get your facts right
Never ever Anycubic again. As soon as the next model iteration is out, there is close to zero support for the "old" models. Not even mentioning fixing problems that were there in the beginnging in the long run. And Anycubic poops out printers faster than some people change their underwear (it sometimes feels like). I had to learn it the hard way...never again.
Don't understand why Joel doesn't cover this. That you'll never get support again. Sad.
I remember back when they had the i3, that thing was around for years. Not once they had a firmware update or even fixed the melting green connector. Yeah, its a let down that they have to release a printer each year, but they do sell a lot of the old stock for cheap. The only selling point of the kobra 3 is the multicolor, otherwise the machine hardwarewise is a kobra 2. Just hope they put slot of effort into the kobra 3, because bambulab is just better. They still have a lot of the software side of things that are stil being worked out, and it suppose to be open source klipper.
I'm just gonna wait to see how it turns out in a couple months.
Same with Creality…. It is all eyes on the new shiny product but once the hype dies down and the UA-camrs get given the next model you never really hear from it again… unless they are slamming the printer for being crap 🤣
@@charlesraes8541 I just buy used 3d printers with how ridiculously cheap they've become. I'm at the point where I can't buy anymore 3d printers due to how many I already have. 3d printers last forever, and not much has changed. They can keep releasing new 3d printers, but its pretty much the same crap. And newly released 3d printers are always half baked. Lots of issue on the first orders.
I have a kobra plus. Original edition
Did AC pay you to say all these lovely things? How long did they take to print. You seem to have left that out. And yeah, It makes a ton of poop.
ROFL! Here we go! Bambu crowd showing their heads LOL
@@anthonylong5870 zero to do with bambu, more that I'd like to know how long it takes to print.
Why dose every modern 3d printing company have to copy bambu lab?
Because they're the best? 🤷♂️
Because this multimaterial setup works well
Hmmmmmmmmm
Companies don't copy because it's the best. They copy because people make a big deal out of something and they want to be a big deal, too. Everyone just wants to hop on the hype train to make money.
It's the few that start the trends who seem to be the cool ones that everyone copies.
Personally find the copy claims quite weird, bambulab haven't really invented any of there systems they are just really good at combining the tech and make it mass manufacturable.
Find it also a bit weird that people don't seem to want competition in the market.
This changing system for example has a filament dryer. Its a improvement i would for example not buy the open air changing system for the a1 since i like petg and it would be a hassle printing it in open air.
I hate pantone go away from 3dprint industry
How is this any better than a Bambu A1 that has a strong community and ecosystem? Seems like a direct copy with nothing added thats new or clever.
Because it is another option besides Bambu for multicolor printing. Also, the ACE multicolor module is also a filament dryer.
@@nickcamarata3378 just a shame it's a pure copy and nothing really new. Waiting for improvements in filament poop waste!
@@rendez2k oh I agree. Everyone is playing catch up to Bambu. The only true working way right now to eliminate poop is to go multi-head but we all know how expensive that is and the build volume is seems to require.
The ace is a combination of ams and ams lite. It has the dry box feature of the regular ams plus its additionally heated and it has only short swap lengths like the ams lite
Faster, Better construction, Better feeding system in the ACE than the AMS, Bigger screen, Never has caught a house on fire, Has a filament dryer built in (thats worth $180 on its own btw) , Costs less and has MASSIVELY better customer support.......Thats answer it for you Skippy?
how the machine perform this is a paid review trash!
WOW. YOU ANGRY COMMENT NO MAKE SENSE SAY STUPID STUFF HA HA HA.
it’s not a review, my opinion is not for sale, go touch grass.
I’m sorry but hueforge prints are such a waste of time and plastic. 3d printing a 2d image is just stupid and pointless. Just print out the image on paper and frame it, no plastic waste produced. Genius
One could say that about anything in 3d printing.
Maybe in this case. But when you create proper lithophanes with it and stick a light behind it, there's a very cool effect that you can't get with just paper.
What a dumbass statement. Some people enjoy the textures that come with hueforging. Next time you print something out that you want around the house, just go buy it instead of printing it. Because that's stupid, right?
Noooooooooooo Not CARDBOARD SPOOLS!!!!!
do Pantone still think they 'own' colour?