I tend to disagree with your decision that it hurt your gaming experience. The Max FPS did drop yes, but you would not notice that really. Instead, you min FPS went up by a pretty good margin. This you would notice much more than the slight drop in max fps.
Hello, I have the same motherboard and cpu. When I change the cpu voltage is does look like it shows up as the same in cpu-z but all other apps such as aida64 or hwinfo read the voltage as 1.240v and my cpu core vid is read as 1.240v too? I've done some testing and with changing the voltage to what I think is 135v I can get my chip to run stable at 4.5ghz, can't seem to get it any higher with any other voltages at all and I can't seem to even get 4.5ghz working with lower voltages than 1.35v Either I am getting a stable overclock of 4.5ghz at 1.20v or I have a bad chip and the most I can oc is 4.5ghz at 1.35v, what do you think?
In the bios, adjust the clock multiplier and you gotta play with the voltage. My method of OC is to increase by 0.005 per trial. Im running at 4.5ghz with 1.345v stable. I did a FPU test with aida64 (if it fails, adjust your voltage) until you able to run tests without any failure. And oh, if game crashes, it means most likely your voltage require tweaking. Btw it boosts my fps (shadow of tomb raider as benchmark). Also rocking apex with 200+ fps max setting (paired with 2080ti)
Leaving your voltage on auto is what caused you max FPS drop. Your CPU will fluctuate and can throttle itself when you leave it on. Set it to like 1.33 or something and leave it at that.
I never set my voltage to Auto, but yeah, if this were the case, something like that might could happen. However, in my case, a BIOS update fixed everything. It was a simple bug. :)
Is there a way to set it so it's not always running at 1.33 volts? I'm running stable at 4.7Ghz but only on manual voltage. If I set it to auto then it goes higher than 1.33 volts. Does MSI have something similar to ASUS's adaptive voltage?
Ionut Topriceanu yeah it's pretty normal my 6700k came with a 1.285v on the vcore. However I managed to reduce it to 1.155 leaving clock untouched. undervolting this CPU is really recommended imho because voltage out of the box is simply to high; I got 10°C less by doing that
Do you have to adjust manually the Core Voltage in the BIOS to 1.344V ? Or does the Core Voltage go higher automatically as you OC the CPU??
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i got same motherboard and cpu i have a question 1.325v 4.6 ghz is totally stable at gaming or aida64 tests. but my question is why i never pass tdp watts 85w ? is normal or not ?
interesting, i have a similar setup with the msi z170a sli plus, and i also found that it made pretty much no difference to gaming with the latest titles after overclocking to 4.5Ghz
How can I download the msi click bios? (I'm using a MSI Z170A Gaming M7 with an I7)6700k ) But did not get the driver (build pc myself) so if anyone could give me a link?
Hello there. I would recomend 1080 or at best 1080ti. I curently run i7 6700k with z170a carbon board 16gigs of ram and 1060 gpu. I could use bit better gpu but i still enjoy it.
Great Video matey!!! I also have an MSI Z170A - Great video, you have given me confidence to OC my Mobo!! Do you have a video on how to OC the RAM or unset the default as the board is set to 2133Hz and I bought Vengence 3000Hz! Any help be great!!
Hi! is it still considered overclocking if I will only raise it up to 2400mhz and if so will a cryorig r1 universal be good enough too cool it with my 2x 8gb hyper x ddr 4 ram in the msi z170a m7?
No point in overclocking, using mine mostly for gaming, surfing and some light video editing but i dont see a huge improvement. Will keep it stock until i get my next pc and then i will OC the hell out of this i7-6700 :D now its fast as hell as it is.
Should i buy the i7 6700k or the i7 5820k ?? Both cost the same price 375€ . Im about to upgrade from a shitty hp laptop (nowadays) to a brand new build.
+Nicolas11x12TECHX i cant seem to access the cpu ratio and the cpu core voltage ... it will not allow me to selected it to change it ..what option on the bios menu allows me to change it?
+Asbjørn Olsen yeah most of those videos are outdated and irrelevant, there were plenty of bios update since and stock voltages were affected. if i were you i wouldnt use any of the video you see to oc your cpu, specialy with msi boards since they dont seem to have LLC. therefor massive vdroop fest. id stay conservative in my voltages, as far as i can tel from my setup, there is no differance between 4.4 and 4.6ghz on my i5, either on benches or ingame, and even tho theres a 19% increase in benches results when at 4.5 vs 3.9, i cant notice any differance in game, maybe its just already overkill for the games i play, guess bf4 is getting old lol. neway, all this to say dont go nuts trying to squeeze every single mhz you can, stay within 1.375v and let everyone else blow up thier shit, or not, befor you try anything crazy. at least thats how i see it xD
Okay thanks a lot for a nice explanation. I can also see not much difference in benchmarks testing for oc. Its also fast enough stock for full potential for latest gpu's. But i was just confused about the high vcore stock, compared to mine with same hardware.
Of course he is compatible. You could overclock much better with Z270. You could increase the memory frequency up to 3400 Mhz, vs Z170 which reaches only 2800-3000 Mhz. I have also i7 6700k and with Z170A MSI gaming M3 I could do 4.4 Ghz with only Vcore 1.22V, VCCsa=1.2V VCCio=1,1 V daily stable! and with 1,25V on 2x8GB corsair vengeance CL14 2800 Mhz DDR4
KridTV Thank you. Wanted to be safe so my current setting is 1.310 Vcore at 4.6GHz. Used Aida64 and left it for an hour ... my temps didn't gone way beyond 70 °C. is that a good result?
how about benchmarking cpus with games that actually are more cpu dependend than battlefield and stuff? Test it with Total War Attila or Rome2! These games are really cpu heavy and would show the benefits of overclocking much better than the games you chose which are just First Person Shooters.
Why do you not use the hardwareoverclock button the M7 has!?!?, that is insane!! you can overclock the 6700K to 4800-5000MHz with just turn the overclock button it's take 10seconds and it's 10 times more stable end software overclock! they have done it from the factory. Get real!!!!! that is the point, the whole idea of the MSI Z170A Gaming M7 motherboard!!
Can't tell if you're trolling people but people should be wary of that knob lol If you pay attention to the voltages applied to your cpu while cranking that knob you'll hopefully quickly notice that you're applying waaay too much voltage than you should/is even safe for your cpu. Manually overclocking will always be the safe bet as long as you're careful since you'll know exactly what your system is running at as opposed to trusting your expensive hardware (that varies from cpu to cpu) to "AUTO" values
I dropped money for that SHIT of motherboard!!!!!XMP doesnt work(not able to system boot when XMP is ON) with 4 diferent DDR4 memory (G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series F4-3200C16D-16GVK, Corsair's Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M4B3200C16 DDR4-3200, Corsair Dominator DDR4 3200Mhz CMD16GX4M2B3200C14, G.SKILL TRIDENT Z 3200MHZ F4-3200C16D-16GTZB!!!!!! Updateb bios to LAST one 1.H0 but still same problem.Contacted MSI they WASH THEIR HANDS with seller!!!!Never MORE with MSI SHIT ONLY ASUS
SavageHippie Dude who said I MICXED RAMS????I wrote that I tryd all of those not mixed them!!!!Tryd set of GSkill(2×8Gb) Hyperx 2x8 etc I am not idiot to mix different ram sets
You could try to reset BIOS from JBAT with a screwdriver and after that you could load with F1 optimal default settings. Verify that f switch load level OC safe mode to the left position, which sometimes block your stock freq of CPU to 800Mhz. Use CPU-Z to monitoring that CPU Vcore and multiplier to be 40x for i7 and adjust from BIOS manually Vcore=1.21V and after that you could play with your memory. For example: if you have DDR4 dual channel at 3000 Mhz, you could manually adjust to 2700-2800 Mhz with a slower voltage= 1,25V and you will be amazed how that memories work this MSI Z170A. Believe me! I was in the same situation and now I solve all problems, and manually set the VCCio=1.1 and VccSA=1,2V from BIOS and go with expert settings from OC BIOS tab!
MSI is much better than ASUS, but you have to learn how to OC components with a minimum effort. Manually set multiplier from BIOS expert OC settings to 42-43X(4300Mhz). It's enough. If you have SSD you will be amazed: maximum boot time 3-4 sec with all programs loaded!
Monitor with Real Temp and with Prime 95 you could make load stress CPU! And see if you have stable OC. And verify with CPU-Z on memory tab if they appear on Memory tab! on your bank 1 to 4...
I tend to disagree with your decision that it hurt your gaming experience. The Max FPS did drop yes, but you would not notice that really. Instead, you min FPS went up by a pretty good margin. This you would notice much more than the slight drop in max fps.
It’s this still good in 2021 I just got it yesterday
Please help. I've tried many settings but unfortunately it seems that the overclocking does not apply! What should I do?
i dont understand your bf4 benchmark. it says you got 6fps higher minimum at stock than when overclocked to 4.4
The Zero when I OC my 6700k past 4.4 my firestrike scores drop? msi m5 shit for OC'ing?
Hello, I have the same motherboard and cpu. When I change the cpu voltage is does look like it shows up as the same in cpu-z but all other apps such as aida64 or hwinfo read the voltage as 1.240v and my cpu core vid is read as 1.240v too? I've done some testing and with changing the voltage to what I think is 135v I can get my chip to run stable at 4.5ghz, can't seem to get it any higher with any other voltages at all and I can't seem to even get 4.5ghz working with lower voltages than 1.35v
Either I am getting a stable overclock of 4.5ghz at 1.20v or I have a bad chip and the most I can oc is 4.5ghz at 1.35v, what do you think?
i did it like you have shown in the video but in cpu-z under Clocks (Core#0) Core Speed stays at 4000.Ghz?
In the bios, adjust the clock multiplier and you gotta play with the voltage. My method of OC is to increase by 0.005 per trial. Im running at 4.5ghz with 1.345v stable. I did a FPU test with aida64 (if it fails, adjust your voltage) until you able to run tests without any failure. And oh, if game crashes, it means most likely your voltage require tweaking. Btw it boosts my fps (shadow of tomb raider as benchmark). Also rocking apex with 200+ fps max setting (paired with 2080ti)
Did you see any of the FOS bottle rocking when overclocking the 4790K
Leaving your voltage on auto is what caused you max FPS drop. Your CPU will fluctuate and can throttle itself when you leave it on. Set it to like 1.33 or something and leave it at that.
I never set my voltage to Auto, but yeah, if this were the case, something like that might could happen. However, in my case, a BIOS update fixed everything. It was a simple bug. :)
nicolas, whats the latest bios update for this mobo? i got this one and i wanna overclock
i have an i7 6700k on stock speed and in bios show core clock voltage at 1.280v an in full loud 1.36v .it is normal ?
Is there a way to set it so it's not always running at 1.33 volts? I'm running stable at 4.7Ghz but only on manual voltage. If I set it to auto then it goes higher than 1.33 volts. Does MSI have something similar to ASUS's adaptive voltage?
Ionut Topriceanu yeah it's pretty normal my 6700k came with a 1.285v on the vcore. However I managed to reduce it to 1.155 leaving clock untouched. undervolting this CPU is really recommended imho because voltage out of the box is simply to high; I got 10°C less by doing that
Do you have to adjust manually the Core Voltage in the BIOS to 1.344V ? Or does the Core Voltage go higher automatically as you OC the CPU??
i got same motherboard and cpu i have a question
1.325v 4.6 ghz is totally stable at gaming or aida64 tests.
but my question is why i never pass tdp watts 85w ? is normal or not ?
The Bf4 Benchamrk is strange... O.o
+Poseidon my fx 8350 performs better than that with a gtx 970 lol
i didn't had a gaming PC way back 2016 but my rig is now i7 11700 and an RTX 3060 12GB
Does MSI X99A GAMING PRO CARBON supports I7 6700k?
no, skylake = z170 chipset brodwell/haswell = x99 chipset
I don't understand what you just said. Except on NO part.
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good
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But i found it anyway. Thanks.
interesting, i have a similar setup with the msi z170a sli plus, and i also found that it made pretty much no difference to gaming with the latest titles after overclocking to 4.5Ghz
Why are you getting higher fps on the stock 6700k vs the overclocked?
Theo W what does that mean
My 6700k voltagw is at stock 1.240 why is yours higher at stock?
sorry, but that guitar solo is?
Thanks :)
What bios version did u have to update this to? Please let me know as I do not know if my version is buggy
What was the song during the Benchmark please?
Should I buy This or the I7 5960x?
I was looking for the full specs of the PC you built not the 6700k. How many Watts is ur PSU?
How can I download the msi click bios?
(I'm using a MSI Z170A Gaming M7 with an I7)6700k ) But did not get the driver (build pc myself)
so if anyone could give me a link?
i build it myself from all the parts too. literally yesterday. it had click bios right from the box. huh
Great info n video.. thanks.. but i wanna listen to that music when i overclock whats it called please?? ))))
Thanks! The song is called "In the Shadows" and is from the UA-cam Audio Library. Have fun overclocking with it! :D
Battlefield 147 at stock and 125 at 4.6 ghz? Huh? Someone enlighten me please.
Okay so I wanted to pair the I7 6700k with the MSI B150 Gaming M3. would this motherboard still have the same effect as in this video?
no. only z170 can oc
current graphic card recommendation for this combination please?
Hello there. I would recomend 1080 or at best 1080ti. I curently run i7 6700k with z170a carbon board 16gigs of ram and 1060 gpu. I could use bit better gpu but i still enjoy it.
@@AllPower11 thank u. what about 6600xt
Great Video matey!!!
I also have an MSI Z170A - Great video, you have given me confidence to OC my Mobo!! Do you have a video on how to OC the RAM or unset the default as the board is set to 2133Hz and I bought Vengence 3000Hz! Any help be great!!
+David Keane enable XMP
Thanks!! Will do!
whats better z170a gaming m5 or m7?
Can you do 4790K 4.8 ghz vs 6700K 4.6 ghz benchmarks cuz this is the average overclock those cpus can do.
AMD Faildozer Its most likely roughly the same given the ipc gains over the haswell 4790k.
Hi! is it still considered overclocking if I will only raise it up to 2400mhz and if so will a cryorig r1 universal be good enough too cool it with my 2x 8gb hyper x ddr 4 ram in the msi z170a m7?
If overcloked at 5.0 is stable?
the most I've heard is 4.7
+Capn_Wreckz I cant go past 46 mhz even with a master cooler.
I clock my i7 6700k at 5.3 stable no issue mostly it depends on your Cooler and silicon
why the fuck is my core voltage is 0.792 and 0.80GHz??? (tried cmos, didnt work any suggestions like overclocking?)
its an i7 6700k too btw
Dedpewl Sins check the little switch on the bottom of motherboard, probably yours is on slow instead of off.
i solved the problem, i just disabled the intel thermal monitoring (?) thing in my BIOS and it started working @ 4ghz and now its 4.5ghz
Dedpewl Sins great :) enjoy your mobo
thanks :D
0:29 Thank MSN.... good shout out :)
How about Z170 m3?
anyone know stable all the time overclock for msi gaming M5 motherboard
what ghz and voltage.
i only know m3 since i am an user of that
@@draegbeast9041 could you let me know? I have m3
FX-8370 and i7-4790K mastur race!
No point in overclocking, using mine mostly for gaming, surfing and some light video editing but i dont see a huge improvement. Will keep it stock until i get my next pc and then i will OC the hell out of this i7-6700 :D now its fast as hell as it is.
Should i buy the i7 6700k or the i7 5820k ?? Both cost the same price 375€ .
Im about to upgrade from a shitty hp laptop (nowadays) to a brand new build.
+ZsiaNcs 5820K for sure
little error in benchmark the i7 4820k doesnt exist i think u mean i7 5820k
+Benedikt Schesch No error. The i7-4820K (Ivy Bridge-E) exists. It's the 5820K's predecessor.
Oh yeah i forgot sry bro Nice vidéo could u try to take off the ihs and look overclock it because the thermal paste there is bas quality
+Nicolas11x12TECHX i cant seem to access the cpu ratio and the cpu core voltage ... it will not allow me to selected it to change it ..what option on the bios menu allows me to change it?
+DataSerpent Same thing here.
i know its a old post, i just got 6700k and this motherboard. and my stock vcore is 1.2
+Asbjørn Olsen yeah most of those videos are outdated and irrelevant, there were plenty of bios update since and stock voltages were affected. if i were you i wouldnt use any of the video you see to oc your cpu, specialy with msi boards since they dont seem to have LLC. therefor massive vdroop fest. id stay conservative in my voltages, as far as i can tel from my setup, there is no differance between 4.4 and 4.6ghz on my i5, either on benches or ingame, and even tho theres a 19% increase in benches results when at 4.5 vs 3.9, i cant notice any differance in game, maybe its just already overkill for the games i play, guess bf4 is getting old lol. neway, all this to say dont go nuts trying to squeeze every single mhz you can, stay within 1.375v and let everyone else blow up thier shit, or not, befor you try anything crazy. at least thats how i see it xD
Okay thanks a lot for a nice explanation. I can also see not much difference in benchmarks testing for oc. Its also fast enough stock for full potential for latest gpu's.
But i was just confused about the high vcore stock, compared to mine with same hardware.
This MSI mobo has LLC stop spreading misinformation please
Music is cool whats the track called??)))
Does it works good that mother board with an i7 6700, 3,4 Ghz???? HELP :d
i7 6700 is not able to overclock,
In 2024 BF 4 BF 1 BF5 still good competetive
should i run SW? instead HW?
or should i overlock both HW/SW?
is z270 a compatible with i7 6700k
Of course he is compatible. You could overclock much better with Z270. You could increase the memory frequency up to 3400 Mhz, vs Z170 which reaches only 2800-3000 Mhz. I have also i7 6700k and with Z170A MSI gaming M3 I could do 4.4 Ghz with only Vcore 1.22V, VCCsa=1.2V VCCio=1,1 V daily stable! and with 1,25V on 2x8GB corsair vengeance CL14 2800 Mhz DDR4
name of music please? :D
yeah i wanna know aswell its awesome!!))
Mein bizeps brennt
Meine auch mate))
In the Shadows - Ethan Meixsell
just want to ask if 1.345V dangerous in the long run? Thank you for your time.
If your temps are good then that voltage is fine.
Mel Pim I'm not an expert on the matter, but I believe anything higher than 1.45V is very harmful
Stay below 1.45 Vcore.
I highly recommend staying below 1.4 Vcore for 24/7 usage as well.
KridTV Thank you. Wanted to be safe so my current setting is 1.310 Vcore at 4.6GHz. Used Aida64 and left it for an hour ... my temps didn't gone way beyond 70 °C. is that a good result?
Yeah that is ok! Enjoy the free extra performance if it stays stable
What? Stock got moar FPS on BF4, U kiddin'?
Do I leave the core voltage on auto?
how about benchmarking cpus with games that actually are more cpu dependend than battlefield and stuff? Test it with Total War Attila or Rome2!
These games are really cpu heavy and would show the benefits of overclocking much better than the games you chose which are just First Person Shooters.
Ive tried running fsx at 4.6 ghz already and theres hardly any performance improvement if theres any at all
Why do you not use the hardwareoverclock button the M7 has!?!?, that is insane!! you can overclock the 6700K to 4800-5000MHz with just turn the overclock button it's take 10seconds and it's 10 times more stable end software overclock! they have done it from the factory.
Get real!!!!! that is the point, the whole idea of the MSI Z170A Gaming M7 motherboard!!
Can't tell if you're trolling people but people should be wary of that knob lol If you pay attention to the voltages applied to your cpu while cranking that knob you'll hopefully quickly notice that you're applying waaay too much voltage than you should/is even safe for your cpu. Manually overclocking will always be the safe bet as long as you're careful since you'll know exactly what your system is running at as opposed to trusting your expensive hardware (that varies from cpu to cpu) to "AUTO" values
gaming performance is worse than stock because you my friend have a gpu bottleneck either benchmark on a latest gpu or higher resolution
I'm running the same setup
WTF I HAVE TO FIND THAT SONG!!
In the Shadows - Ethan Meixsell
lol stock better than overclocking dafuq? :D
+Live2K1LLHD Thermal throttling maybe?!
turbo ON on stock....
Stock = better
SkotozeTM wrong
top +++
I dropped money for that SHIT of motherboard!!!!!XMP doesnt work(not able to system boot when XMP is ON) with 4 diferent DDR4 memory (G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series F4-3200C16D-16GVK, Corsair's Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M4B3200C16 DDR4-3200, Corsair Dominator DDR4 3200Mhz CMD16GX4M2B3200C14, G.SKILL TRIDENT Z 3200MHZ F4-3200C16D-16GTZB!!!!!! Updateb bios to LAST one 1.H0 but still same problem.Contacted MSI they WASH THEIR HANDS with seller!!!!Never MORE with MSI SHIT ONLY ASUS
I don't think your suppose to mix your RAM man, I could be wrong but won't that cause issues?
SavageHippie Dude who said I MICXED RAMS????I wrote that I tryd all of those not mixed them!!!!Tryd set of GSkill(2×8Gb) Hyperx 2x8 etc I am not idiot to mix different ram sets
You could try to reset BIOS from JBAT with a screwdriver and after that you could load with F1 optimal default settings. Verify that f switch load level OC safe mode to the left position, which sometimes block your stock freq of CPU to 800Mhz. Use CPU-Z to monitoring that CPU Vcore and multiplier to be 40x for i7 and adjust from BIOS manually Vcore=1.21V and after that you could play with your memory. For example: if you have DDR4 dual channel at 3000 Mhz, you could manually adjust to 2700-2800 Mhz with a slower voltage= 1,25V and you will be amazed how that memories work this MSI Z170A. Believe me! I was in the same situation and now I solve all problems, and manually set the VCCio=1.1 and VccSA=1,2V from BIOS and go with expert settings from OC BIOS tab!
MSI is much better than ASUS, but you have to learn how to OC components with a minimum effort. Manually set multiplier from BIOS expert OC settings to 42-43X(4300Mhz). It's enough. If you have SSD you will be amazed: maximum boot time 3-4 sec with all programs loaded!
Monitor with Real Temp and with Prime 95 you could make load stress CPU! And see if you have stable OC. And verify with CPU-Z on memory tab if they appear on Memory tab! on your bank 1 to 4...