E60 BMW 535D SE - Why This Childhood Hero Car Was The First Cool Diesel
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I have been after one of these for about 2 years. So hard not to find one that hasn’t been ruined or messed about with by someone with little respect for subtlety. 535D estate is a forever want for me.
It is such a shame I can’t find one on eBay that hasn’t been messed with positively always got black BMW badges and have probably been driven harder than a police car such a shame to see good cars wasted
The curse of "too low" prices. It attracts the wrong crowd.
where are you from?
@@husk1c the uk
@@Snowlads why are you looking on ebay for one, have you tried pistonheads or something else?
Many people say it's a bad design but just look at its direct competitors from that age. So much fresher and nicer, well rounded and more premium feeling than any other german brand at the time.
Any non msport bmw of this age is so undesirable but also probably way better looked after than any msport model
I owned a 535d M sport (pre LCI) for 10 years, covered 180k with no bother, until it caught fire! - there’s a recall that BMW kindly put in place 3 years after the fire 😡
Otherwise a great car that I loved owning..
Dude. For crying out loud. You're my age. Long before the E60's the E39 were way cooler and all around during your childhood. Not to mention a ton of other cool diesel cars. If you want to be respected as a car reviewer at least give your content a couple minutes of thought before blurting out stuff like this.
I bullied my wife into buying one of those in 2010. It was a great car. I can remember going on holiday to Cornwall and absolutely destroying a couple of young lads in a 130i. The wife's was an SE. A proper wolf in sheep's clothing.
You have to give credit to Bangle . The 5 series has aged so well . Still looks pretty current to my eyes
No it hasn't. Still looks awful. Good car though.
It's ugly,tries too hard.
Sedan is ugly, however the touring looks really good with M-Tech
Don't mind the idiots in the replies, this thing looks soo good to this day.
@@Miki2305. Yep, was good when it debuted, still good. Sleek and aerodynamic look. With M sport the nose is just about unbeatable for a large car if you like more subtle and aerodynamic sporty styling instead of the very agressive one thats so common these days.
A few months ago I was filming a comparison between e24 635i and e63 635d. I loved the e24, but was very pleasantly surprised with 3.0 twin turbo diesel in e63. Plenty (but not too much) of power and torque, decent mpg. As awesome as diesel engine can be.
Can never have too much power and torque
My personal 535D on a 57 plate has just turned 300k, bought it with 120K 3 years old from car auction, ex company car, in my 180K the only non service item replaced was the sunroof motor, regular services, oil and fuel filter replaced every 5k been an absolutley brilliant car, got as much as 55mpg on long runs, overhaul around 38mpg, still looks sharp, paintwork is still amazingly gooI'll keep running it until eventually something gives in, if you can find a good one, I'd highly recommend buying one.
my e60 530d has also just rolled over 300k , and after 10 years of reliable service im now on a mission to keep her clean and running as long as i can. unfortunately with the rollout of LEZ in edinburgh and glasgow her days may be numbered :(
The e60 is such a weird platform it’s leaps and bounds ahead of the e39 in technology terms but in materials quality terms it’s way behind
High spec Facelift ones arent too bad, but the early ones were shocking coming from an E39, yes. They were on a cost saving mission.
Always get a kick whenever I spot a 35d or the later 40d and M50d.
Didn't understand why BMW put 3 turbos on a 3 L instead of using a V8 but now I do
To me, the first *cool* diesel (in a sedan and doing the same job as your 535d) was the Alpina D10
Diesel is a great technology and far far better than any electric crap and you will not convince me otherwise. My mothers Passat does 1350 km in one tank of fuel. Diesel also easily made if you dont want to pump oil out of the ground.
Brilliant and notorious Pistonheads comment royalty the 535D though perhaps the first cool diesels were Peugeots, the 205 D-Turbo and the 306 D-Turbo. Come to think of it the Citroen ZX Volcane TD was also really cool.
Had a Dark green 3 door volcane up to about 140k. Lots of fun for a diesel at the time.
I had a 306 D Turbo, loved that car
He’s the Volcane TD was a cool car. I went petrol though, as that engine was even more tempting to me!
The Citroen BX19 TRD was the first desirable diesel car from the PSA stable.
Even nicer to drive, with that ride! Steering and braking were also memorable.
These cars always drove on rails absolutely lovely! My late father had a 520d was underpowered but still felt executive almost two decades later!
He left it to me when he passed but i sold it because of memories and golf mk5 i still have being cheaper to run and repair ❤
Thanks for signing my engine cover yesterday, James. Now a treasured keepsake. Apologies for descending on you like a crazed groupie, but I wasn't expecting to bump into you. Keep up the excellent videos. All the best!
The black fuel :) I guess this description comes from the black label on the fuel pump itself, nothing to do with its lovely bright color ! Slippery it is , and not as flammable as petrol (ex petrol station worker here). Diesels were my choice at some point, even the 320D F30 made more sense and appeal to me than petrol equivalent 320 or 420i, purely based on experience with fuel consumption and torque. I had them both regularly as rentals (brand new ) , so I did not have to think about reliability, residuals or anything else ! My heart and foot simply said '' DIESEL'' . At the time, it felt that anything below 250 BHP or less than 8 cylinders was better in diesel format. Rewind a few years forward and diesel is the Satan, polluter, unreliable heap of joke and something the world wants to erase from the face of the earth. AGENDAS AGENDAS. The diesel was killed with DPF and government agendas. The biggest downside for me was the time it took to warm up and pump the heat into the cabin. The Sound did not matter to me. I drive a petrol hybrid today but I am inches away from switching to 6 cylinder diesel BMW . They are a bargain thanks to the AGENDAS.
I had the F11 model 535d touring which had 313bhp and was the ultimate Q car. Very little could stay with it on an A road or motorway, the acceleration from any speed was phenomenal for a tourer. I rarely got less than 39 mpg, usually into the 40s. ULEZ has rendered these amazing cars unaffordable, so thank you Mr Khan....
F11 535d facelift is euro 6
They're more affordable than ever now, thanks to Mr Khan (actually Boris' idea). Problem is they're now less useable than ever. Or just buy one and avoid London.
My x5 40d is a early 40d engine and its not euro 6. It just missed out. But its amazing i love it
Unusable*
Not unaffordable
"Very little could stay with it on an A road or motorway"
Stop talking nonsense. It's a great car and the engine is great, but that statement is just ridiculous and childish.
E39 3.0d M57 m-sport manual was even cooler!
The twinturbo sounds especially good when straight piped. Usually they can be found heavily modded, remapped and with gearbox problems due to people driving them the wrong way. Sometimes you see one in original condition but always with high milage. These have been on the highway a lot. They are not worth buying here unfortunately. In the Netherlands, we pay 2500 euros (2100GBP) a year to just have one sitting on the driveway. Still have my 330d with M57N. It can go a long way if you respect the nature of a turbocharged diesel.. it needs to be at temperature before you give it the beans. Cold starts sound loud and industrial but at 90C, the engine idles very quiet and runs super smooth like a 6 cilinder should. They are getting rare and that is the main reason I still drive M57
Hi there I had a m57 e93 325d and sold it at 170k then treated myself to a 635d 78k on clock paid high but is a totally original car, just had the diff and gearbox done so hoping for a few trouble free years out of it with oil changes at mot time not based on service indicator, Shame there not ulez compliant
E46 330d was without a doubt the first cool diesel we didn't have to wait until the E60 to use that label... 🤦♂
Was that the car where Jenson Button was caught doing >240 kph on the French Autoroute? That was the first cool diesel IMHO.
@@JJVernig It was indeed. I own one (6-speed manual, 204 hp, Touring) it is glorious.
BMW will never be as good as they where,what a pitty!!
design definitely won't be😂
The rate at which they're actively digging under their feet is impressive
@@YounesLayachi I don't get why they make all their cars ugly I just don't
Disagree OP. I've driven most of them an my current M340i is the best yet.
@@biddyboy1570 bide your time, 3 series hasn't been ruined yet but most other new BMW models are all abominations.
1, 2, 4, 5, 7, X1, X6, X4, X7, XM, Z4, iX, i3, 2 AT...
Although the current 3 series is already much fatter than its predecessors
I was never put off by diesels and I remember a time in the late 90's when things like a 306 with the XUDT was almost worthless. A twist of a screw on the pump and it was a pretty good hot hatch - far outperforming a lot of the petrol offerings from the time. The same went for a few of the earlier td's.
Fuel pump?
yes fuel pump@@michaelyounes29
@@michaelyounes29 Yes. On the 306 the early ones had an anti-tamper cover made of tin then it was a simple matter of how much smoke/power do you want.
The later ones require taking an inspection screw/cover out and adjusting the metering screw behind it.
The Vauxhall/Isuzu 1.7td was similar to the early 306 layout and again you could take it from a wheezing, gutless wonder to something reasonably quick. Well for its day anyway.
Remember this is when most warm/hot hatches didn't make much more than 100hp anyway so a 306 chucking out 120-130hp worth of turbo torque was right in the mix.
With a bigger intercooler, turbo and a drill out of the main fuel regulator you could go to 150+hp but then the gearboxes started eating themselves with much hard use.
For context the Golf GTi 8v which was common back then was rated at 113hp, the 205 1.6 was 104hp, the Astra GTE 8v 118hp and so on - all with much, much less torque.
We could say its not fair to compare n/a to turbo but there weren't many turbo cars about back then - notably the R5GTT was 120hp but other turbo cars tended to be much larger and more expensive.
A turned up 306 could still do 50+ mpg driven sensibly and was a good run for anything short of 16v stuff.
@siraff4461 That's amazing information. Thanks for taking the time to write that. I would have never known. I remember my mate has a 205 1.7 diesel I bet that would have been tunable using your method!
@@siraff4461great write up, I understood it all. Sadly, the golden era is gone
I did 100k in a 335d. Brilliant engine. Loved every minute. I'm now in a B58 powered car.
@@biddyboy1570 Wich one do you “like” most? I have a 635D and also looking that way a bit…
@@marcelhartmans the B58 car is much better. It's not a fair comparison as the 335d was great when it came out. Things moved on and the M lite will return the same MPG as the diesel but has the option to switch to much better performance in sport mode.
I absolutely loved my E92 335d, had all the emission deletes, with just those got a dyno tune for 380bhp and nearly 800Nm, sold last month and got a GR Yaris. The Yaris is endless fun, but I do miss the amount of torque that can rip your face off, if anyone is wondering if a 335d or 535d is worth getting, M57 only! Yea do it, you’ll have more fun in that than anything else, and also get crazy good mpg!
You should've kept it
Nice, is stage 2 worth the expense over stage 1? Considering it for my 535d LCI.
OY57 VUN was mine for the first two years of its life. Tickled by DMS to 320hp and 500lb/ft it was magnificent. We sliced across Europe in it during March 2008 and it returned 45mpg everywhere. Mine had the later headrest design and other bits n bobs. Only changed it for an M5. My late father always claimed it was faster away from roundabouts than my 550 Maranello. Oddly enough, HE didn’t get 45mpg out of it…
Should’ve kept it mate. Seems it’s been looked after even now
Lol I average more than that in my N53 330i. Modern version of this has to be the M340d saloon. Shame anything pre-2016 diesel is basically useless for inside the M25.
That fuel economy is poor; my remapped E92 335i isn’t much worse.
The CCC screen can be upgraded with a screen from Andream for about £250 which will hive you CarPlay and Andream Auto plus touchscreen functionality should you want it. You can still dive into the OE system if needed.
A5 3.0 TDI V6 is also really cool best sounding diesel with a proper exhaust
My 09’ 535 d is still one of my favorites (among 50 rides) truly all arounder and looks even prettier in these days, lol
Love a 535D! Ended up buying a car off Chris after watching one of your reviews and then checking out what he had available a few month back. Highly recommend him if you fancy treating yourself 👍
X5 M50d owner... That engine and it's performance are PHENOMENAL!!!
Jealous man. None in the states
Very nice car and a good review. Strange how the wheels look absolutely tiny now...
Mine recently broke down after years of loyal service.
Drove it myself from 98.000 km's to 249,000 km's and aside from 1 turbo and a electric window malfunction not much maintenance costs.
(except your usual oil changes and maintenance), and for some reason just alot of cheap light bulbs.
Hard to find a good one that's "(lower)'' mileage and not messed around to much with.
My Fuel pump obliterated and metal shavings were found everywhere so the costs of repair was to high then what it's worth.
It's probally running again in an Balkan country now haha.
I had 2 of them a sedan (blue) and one touring (black) (1 crashed) but they aged like fine wine specially with M-Pack.
This car will easily do 500 000km easily
@@duffydon1741 I know, but i had bad luck.
I have a 535d(2007 stage 1+ around 340 hp) currently sitting at 418xxx km. I get really good mpg and pulls like a truck. Yesterday i was racing with a newer bmw 6 series probably a tuned 630d od 640d(he was smoking like a locomotive) and he couldn't shake me off. I love it
Picked up my 530D E61 around 2 weeks ago for the grand price of £795. Runs and drives beautifully but needs some cosmetic touch ups and a wheel speed sensor but in the process of giving it a full service as something tells me it’s been a tad neglected over the 140k miles it’s been driven 😅
Diesel clatter is music to my ears.
The E39 5-Series (particularly with Sport/M5 styling) was stunning - E60 was the beginning of the end for BMW design. The next 15 years of all BMW models could have passed for Toyotas with badges and kidney grilles removed.
I still have my 2007 E60 535D though the sport version. Bought it from BMW when it was 4 years old and I still love it 11 year on with 120,000 now on the clock. Have had a stage 1 map which pushed the 286BHP to 350BHP and 680NM with EGR and CAT's all in place, and everyone that goes in it is surprised how quick the old girl still is. All I do is change the oil every 6000 miles and run it on super diesel, but with the new ULEZ that came out a few days ago 3 miles from where I live, I don't know what the future holds with love affair of the 535D?
I have a 2017 x3 35d stag1 330bhp 700nm 0-60 in 5 sec and I get 30mpg out of it. great fast suv.
It's missing the night vision and ACC to impress your secretary
Hey james I believe i may have mentioned before having access to a E34 B10 Alipina unfortunately non turbo and auto and with a horribly loud exhaust i’ll be in touch, also a 812bhp bmw x5m comp in perfect spec stock look and a 7.5 gtd golf i love to bits ❤
6:52 I must say I think the non-M Sport looks nicer.
Back in 1992 I bought my first regular car, a 1990 Mercedes 190D 2.5 Turbo. That was at the time a pretty cool Diesel... And actually imho still is. :)
Are you kidding? No, it was not cool at all...
@@pistonburner6448 That's ok, I never was really that cool...
@@Izrealeu as a 22 year old college student, I think that is a pretty cool car you bought back then. As time goes on I think cars like that become even cooler. A Mercedes 190D 2.5? sign me up!
@@sheeshman9713 That was my first regular daily when I got my license at 18, my first car I bought when I was 14, a 1959 Pontiac. Modern cars have less character I believe, but... opinions... everyone got one ;) Cheers
@@Izrealeu I wholeheartedly agree. I don't know much about Pontiacs but any car from that era is a classic in my eyes. I bought my first car last year. It's a 1996 Mercedes E280. Just couldn't bring myself to buy some boring modern hatchback :)
Surely it was the E46 330d coupe that made diesels ‘cool’? Decent looking, decent shove and decent fuel economy.
Thank you James for doing a video on the E60. This is quite a unique specification as you said. I remember i was 12 when i first saw an E60 and it was M-sport and i loved it. My dad would later have a 530i msport which was a company car and the first BMW i drove. Later in life, i bought a 550i and two years later traded it for a newer and less problematic 535i, which i still have. It was only as i got older that i learned how divided people were on the styling. Ive always liked it and i think it has aged well when comparing styling to everything else today. With care and updating the iDrive, the E60 doesnt feel, drive or look outdated. I plan on keeping mine forever and in the family. I occasionally check the classifieds to look for any low mileage and/or unique spec'd E60s.
It was a massively impressive car when it came out, but a long time before the Germans did cool diesels the French did. Even as someone who's owned a slew of BMWs, in terms of coolness I'm always going to see of this as a late-comer tryhard compared to the 20 years earlier 1982 Citroen CX 2.5 turbo-diesel. They were IMMENSELY cool.
Range rovers made diesels cool
I had 2 F10 530d back to back when new.
Best was Andorra to Somerset in 11 hours.
811 miles at an AVERAGE speed of 72mph and still returning 37mpg.
Phenomenal cars.
I remember Clarkson raved on and on how he hates the looks of it, but I actually like the looks of it.
It looks as sexy as jayemm
@@maximilianmcmxxiii963 😆
Please get an E61 M5 on the Channel James ❤
My dad had a 530d of this generation 5 series. He got it remapped, my god, that thing could go some after that!!!
Pollution penalty fees are only in first world countries. Come to the US and belch carcinogens to your heart's content.
*not in California
No such thing as a "Cool Diesel"! only Petrol cars rule!!!
I have this very car. Absolutely stunned to find it on UA-cam! I've overhauled a lot of the mechanics now and given it some serious maintenance with OEM parts. It runs a treat ☺️ She now has CIC and a SAT shifter too! Having active steering and dynamic drive, specifically on an LCI, is incredibly hard to come by.
That will
Last you a while. Great engine m57
I have a 530d manual saloon in pre-lci msport flavour. Great car for the money but go in with your eyes open because although they don’t go wrong all that often, it can be a bit eye watering when they do. The auto boxes can and do fail, resulting in a four figure bill. Mine as a manual needed clutch and flywheel - not cheap.
The worst was the 6 new injectors it needed. Another four figure bill. It did improve the mpg by about 5 miles though.
But, when it’s working, still a joy to commute distance in, handles really well, and mine, even with a single turbo goes like a stabbed rat. Oh, and still rides really well, even with msport suspension and 19” wheels. Possibly something to do with the wheelbase as previous 1 and 3-series cars I’ve owned were not nearly as good, the 1 being particularly uncomfortable on the county roads where I live.
Absolutely nostalgic (even though we’re not talking a long time!). I had an e61 535d and it was mind blowing. I moved onto an f11 535d (after toying with an M5 Touring, but actually, real world vs maintenance costs, I went with the d). Miss my E61. Everyone was surprised just how quick, refined and undiesel like it was. Going from cruise to maximum attack, it didn’t even change gear, just kicked you in the kidneys and asked you to hang on. More mental than any car I’ve owned since for a pure masterclass in torque. Miss it.
I had a 520D Msport a real sheep in wolfs clothing! I then bought an 535D Msport 2016 euro 6 which I have had for 6 years and no longer really need but I can't sell it as it is just superb especially when you press the go pedal (and my other car which I have now moved on was a 911 so I like to think I know what a quick car is)
Love the fact that those that know, know. (I.e the exhaust pipes)
Well said. Yep
I have a 2006 Mercedes E320 CDI and this was the competition. It was great competition, BMW is the only people I know who have rival mercedes for a diesel sport sedan. twin turbo, 6 speed, this car is faster but in the Mercedes won because the 5 speed could handle more power and the single variable geometry turbo was a better way to get power. Mercedes are just a lot more rugged and reliable cars. But admitedly the BMW is a faster car, at the time mercedes had 201hp and 370ft/lbs of torque, BMW came out with 282hp wow, 420ft/lbs of torque wow!
I felt the enthusiasm for diesel performance cars started via Top Gear with the E43 330i vs. 330D battle
Tbh, Top Gear during the earlier seasons (I'd say upto 2009-ish) reviewed and praised many diesel cars. Remember Clarkson's diesel Jag XJ in the Switzerland to Blackpool one tank of diesel race?
I sold my 2014 F11 535D in March and although I don’t miss the myriad of problems it gave, I do miss the torque of the thing. From standstill or a slow roll it was absolutely ballistic and could shame some supposedly much sportier and prestige vehicles.
I had a 5 m sport touring 530d. 57 reg. I'm sure I'll never have a better car.
I have 2008 530xd and it is a stunning car. Took me awhile to find one of those here in Finland that is not fkcd by previous owners. e60 series is still the ones that you can repair easily yourself if you have a computer with ISTA and some knowledge about cars. But if you dont have knowledge about cars and your wallet is not so fat, then it is better find some newer BMW's. ;)
Surprised to see you at shedfest yesterday jay and I must say your Maserati is a beautiful spec in wonderful condition
Love your videos, no brand favorism, simple edits, streight to the point and real. Good job🎉
And about the car, the ownership, and the driving experience.
Worth a remap ??
10:20 Just £300 that's so cheap😭😭 here in Austria it costs £1300 a year!
After 11 years with it I'm just about to sell my 2006 E91 335D. It has the same drivetrain and infotainment. You're spot on about the effortless nature of the performance. The fuel economy is better than you achieved in normal use, good on motorways but drops dramatically when you play with it. I'll be sorry to see it go; if I had a car barn if keep it.
I desperately want one. The E60 is still my dream car. And the m57 535d is my favourite but we didn't get it in south Africa only the 530d but i have promised myself a facelift 530d will be my next car.
Was that 1970s presenter a reference to jeremy clarkson?
Jimmy Saville.
If you‘ve ever been driving with a 90+ miles/hour average on German Autobahns it will most likely have been a Diesel and I cannot think of a better engine displacement to combine power and range.
Clarkson wasn't in the TV business until the late eighties and he never presented childrens programmes. And allthough he's caused some controversies, Saville is so much in another league it's light years apart. Google him. But be warned. Saville was an extremely vile man.
Clarkson was a teenager in the 70s...
@@AWMJoeyjoejoeI'm not british. My apologies for being a dumbass American
Would love to know what you think of the e90 3litre 3 series if the same era, have a 330D and the engine is fantastic, get over 40mpg as a daily 👍
Likewise. Drive a 2011 330xd SE Touring Auto chipped to over 300hp. So an e91 LCI. It has that lovely pale blue metallic paint and white leather. Been reliable for the most part although I am spending quite a bit on it to keep on top of the maintenance. It likes premium Shell diesel and regular oil changes. Just don’t see anything out there I want to swap it for here in Central Europe, where the emissions rubbish is still less of an issue. Ultimate sleeper car, and beautiful.
You can see how far diesel engines have come, my M340d saloon did 62.1mpg on a trip to London recently from South Wales, mental given the performance on offer from this model!
I don’t know what everyone has against Diesel. I drive a G20 320d and I usually drive around 25.000kms per year so a Diesel is the smartest and cheapest way possible.
Had an E61 lci with a stage 1 map and it was marvelous. Great machines.
'Had'... now have something better?
A mapped 530d is just as good and alot better on fuel but the engine is so nice to drive
I bought an A5 with the 3.0 TDI. On decent roads I'll get low-mid 40s mpg-wise.
Motorway and Dual Carriageways' tend to hover at 55mpg.
On a recent holiday from Mid Wales to Farnborough, I achieved 47mpg. Combine that with a 64L tank, and you can get some properly-good miles out of the thing.
No one cares about your overpriced VW parts bin claptrap.
Real comfy cars alot off car for the money and dont age like other cars from this era "I own a 09 520d for sale ,
last off the e60
With 170k full service history but off road ATM as the ibs battery sensor needs replaced alternator battery was changed but the intelligent battery sensor sh*t itself common problem with these cars has great spec and never messed with I got a newer bmw plus I've an e90 330d
Bmw that I've had 3 years and want to keep as its my fun car ,so the 5 series I call a silver spoon as its silver and been sitting on my driveway since October, haven't put it for sale as people who have no clue about bmw and want cars for nothing but it's spotless two keys etc just needs the sensor replaced and motd which it needs nothing for , being the 520d its cheap tax etc automatic sane layout as this one except with the carbon effect interior as opposed to the wooden , £1800
If anyone wants to buy it would rather it go to someone who will look after it as its the se also and apart from an aux cable all standard and extensive service history , my e90 needs some work so unfortunately the e60 has to go as just sitting there doing nothing plus my new car so can't afford all 3 if interested in a good example of an e60 drop.a comment I'm In the UK so transport would be easy to arrange
Was this not Jenson Buttons vehicle of choice in the 00'.....noted to be doing ridiculous speeds somewhere. If its good enough for a F1 world champion..........!
We had the E60 530d SE and it was an absolutely superb machine. Supremely comfortable and incredibly competent on the motorway. Surprisingly agile on the back roads and oh so practical.
The 330d was the first cool diese
The Logic 7's essential, the soft close doors are just silly.
I’ve just literally the other day bought a LCI E61 535d SE Touring in the same colour, with the same wheels.
IMHO actually it happened earlier - the E39 530d already made Diesel engine cool, the 535d was just more of the same.
I think the 2000s was diesel's heyday. This 335d. The fabia vrs hothatch being diesel only. It's a shame it's all coming to a close now. Diesel's do such a good job of a jekyll and hyde car.. Good cruising economy and comfort and (for the economy) good performance.
I guess some Hybrids (Peugeot 3008 for example) will be the closest we get in modern times.
The first car I bought was a BMW 5 series E60 535D Msport LCI and I had no license. I just jumped straight in!
Chris Bangles BMW was the golden era of the marque, now contemporary BMW have lost that ultimate driving machine tag, it now the ultimate marketing machine.
It's worth noting that the active/dynamic/whatever-it's-called steering thing is notorious for its failure rate and how expensive it is to fix. It's definitely worth considering if you're looking to buy a car that has it. Something I learned from another of Jay's videos, by the way.
I think I prefer the E60 to any 7 Series. As much as I love the E32 and E38, and even the E65, I think I'd take the E60 any day.
Have one exactly like this but ditched run flats.7 years and still great!
I have an 08 with paddles smokes latest golf r s3 type don't no what thr guys done to it b4 me it's bonkers I love it
Not sure why you said the gearbox "isn't great", maybe a slip of tongue? It was considered excellent at the time, sure it is maybe not that good after 20 years.
I prefer my Jag XJ TDVI. Also the economy is much better than the BMW.
The E61 is even better, the E60 arse always looked like an afterthought.
How do you take a picture in 2005 and look like it was took yesterday? Must've been some high camera lol
Nice, please do the e90 320d next. Those were good sellers, drove well and had decent performance for the time.
Love my E60 535d, far better than my E60 M5...that.was an utter turd car
Big diesels are great. I would rather have one of those than a modern generic 2.0 4 cylinder petrol turbo. Faster, more economical more effortless to drive. The later shape (F10) model was far more economical than the E60 model as well as being more refined.
Yep, N57 engine in those are more frugal. But not as bulletproof...
@@GoldenCroc I guess the fragility is a price for more power and better economy. Having said that they are usually ok if the oil is changed at half the recommended intervals.
Timeless design. And the m57 engines are bulletproof 👍💪
These may be good cars but it still looks like a skip. Familiarity has reduced the shock effect but it's ugly.
If I was dumb enough to own a BMW. It would be a diesel suv or wagon. I give zero shits about emissions.
Not a bad car by any means, but it only attracts truly disgusting types of people, at least here in Bulgaria...
Have you tried the 745d with its 750 Nm of torque and 330 ps?