@@htoodoh5770 yeah but Golding wrote it because he was a teacher at a all boys school and was pissed at the very popular adventure island books where young English boys befriend the wild natives.
I mean... the world’s history (and current events) don’t really agree with your conclusion. Yes, there are stories of cooperation; in fact, it’s the main reason we have a civilization at all. But there’s also the mongol hoards, the romans, Bolsheviks.... and on it goes. I think lord of the flies was an important insight into one aspect of human nature, not an inevitable conclusion.
It’s heartwarming to know that they refrained from fighting and even had a 4 hour break apart from others. They handled that better than any naked and afraid people
@@Lazuley_ all the other kids telling simple "me and the boys" stories while these 6 brave lads laughs at their stories and told everyone they survived in a remote island for 15 months xdd
Tonga as well as Samoa and many of those other Pacific Islands have beautiful cultures that emphasize community and working together for survival. That photo of the six boys where one is holding a guitar is so beautiful to me, and the raw happiness and joy on their faces is just so inspiring
Yeah the boys' practical experience and cultural context no doubt played a big role in why their story ended up good in the end, unlike Golding's Lord of the Flies (which I read in school). I was left with the impression from reading it, that the Naval officer's comment at the end shows that the British would naturally not fare as well in the same kind of circumstances.
This story is actually more in tune with what human history looks like, a collective effort to survive. It reminds me of a famous story about Margaret Mead: “Years ago, anthropologist Margaret Mead was asked by a student what she considered to be the first sign of civilization in a culture. The student expected Mead to talk about fishhooks or clay pots or grinding stones. But no. Mead said that the first sign of civilization in an ancient culture was a femur (thighbone) that had been broken and then healed. Mead explained that in the animal kingdom, if you break your leg, you die. You cannot run from danger, get to the river for a drink or hunt for food. You are meat for prowling beasts. No animal survives a broken leg long enough for the bone to heal. A broken femur that has healed is evidence that someone has taken time to stay with the one who fell, has bound up the wound, has carried the person to safety and has tended the person through recovery. Helping someone else through difficulty is where civilization starts, Mead said.” We are at our best when we serve others. Be civilized. - Ira Byock.” These boys were Mead’s Medley :)
Interesting. But then,civilisation begins before and beyond humanity, as we know from chimps and some other social species, that they take care of their ills, olds of woundeds.
@@blanco7726 Nope. More like non-social vs social species, and even then there are varying levels and kinds of social behaviours, some of which include caring for the sick or even old and infirm.
I think calling them "The Real Lord of the Flies" is absolutely perfect, since TLotF was written to claim that human nature was evil, but when it came down to the wire, and a bunch of kids were actually stranded on an island together, they showed everyone how a real group of kids would've acted if they needed each other to survive.
Worth notice that in the Lord of the Flies there was much larger group of boys, and that made it possible to form factions parties, and wars eventually, 6 simply isn’t enough for that to happen
@@vikzn1607 That's exactly why we did exactly that when we were hunter gatherers. I see nothing wrong with this comment whatsoever. This reads as 100 percent true. /S "Death becomes me" - Vikzn, 2021
@@vikzn1607 Just not true, don't believe the brainwashing. We are wired to cooperate with each other, without it we would never have developed civilization and would have probably died out by now.
Rest In Peace Peter... Peter Warner sadly died today when his small sailing boat capsized while crossing the bar at Ballina, Australia. He died doing what he loved at 90 years old. You will not be forgotten
The funniest part of _Lord of the Flies_ is that it was never meant to be a "oh, look how savage humans are when left ungoverned in their natural state, men are beasts, etc. etc.." William Golding was just so _sick_ of the huge amounts of 'British children go on adventures elsewhere' books that were being published at the time, and was also sick of his students, who he despised as spoiled, horrible specimens of people, that he wrote the book as a response. Each character is based off a real life student of his and he definitely achieved his goal of scandalizing British society with the book's publication. Children, especially 'upstanding,' wealthy British boys had never been portrayed as anything but genteel and sophisticated before this, so this was like the equivalent of something like _The Exorcist_ or Stephen King's _It_ in terms of literary backlash and secret admiration. It was only later on that this idea of him trying to showcase the true nature of humans came into being. He really wrote the book because he was fed up with the literary trend of the era and thought his students were an example of how boarding schools and gentry at the time allowed their children to become cruel, horrible people without exercising any mediating force and how the upper class was letting their children go to shit. He really _shouldn't_ have been a teacher... TLDR; Golding wrote _Lord of the Flies_ as a fuck you to his contemporaries and students, with each character specifically, _recognizably_ modeled after one of his students as an even bigger fuck you to them, their parents, and his peers because he was just so fed up with them.
In the book the kids were young and didn't know eachother.And they were spoiled brats. But in real life the group was made up of older kids and they were all friends.
@@Raccon_Detective. Spot on! I was just about to say the same. Sadly, people tend to cooperate better with those they’re familiar with. I am not that kind of person, I believe in special situations like this we MUST work together and not fall to division or else we are all gonna be f*ked together. Do or die. I also think their faith in God played a role. Not bullet proof, but will keep you off each other’s throats for a bit.
Or maybe they did but they weren't paying attention in class? You know, students don't always pay attention, especially when they hate school so much they'd rather sail to Fiji.
The nuns wouldn't be teaching them how to escape in the first place. Plus I bet they know how to get to Fiji, they were heading in the right direction at first. Anything else is just a lack of forsight since this wasn't some expedition of experts but a bunch of rowdy teens.
Crazy how there actually was a kid who fell off a cliff just like in the "Lord of the Flies" story. Fortunately he survived instead of going splat on the rocks below.
As a kid my favourite movie was The Blue Lagoon because I wanted to go and live on a tropical island, so I really loved this true story. These 6 boys behaved way better than a lot of adults would have.
I caught this too! I was thinking, how could they go 80 days without food?!?! It is obvious now that he meant 8 days. Still tough to be without food for that long!
It was rather horrible to arrest them before they could even see their relatives!!! Geesh, treated them like hardened criminals. Plus if that boat was worth anything, why did it start to sink in less than a week. Seems that boat owner finally saw a way to profit off those young boys misdeed. If their family wanted them home, that boatman must be paid first. Yes; of course, they had ‘borrowed’ the boat but it was a miracle that they all lived and even thrived. Good true story.
Definitely one of my favorite Thoughty2 videos. I've been a fan and a subscriber from very early on (pre-mustache) and this video makes me feel good and puts a big smile on my face. 😁
Of course it's a good story! And back in the day when I was a teenager, the same exact thing happened to me! Except that instead of being stranded on an island, I just stayed home, with myself, playing Quake and other video games on the computer... OMG... I wonder if Warner Bros would be interested in buying my story?
I read the story in school in 1981 (in english class and afterwards it was thoroughly discussed). The assumptions the books makes, was already then considered false. Not just because of this story (the forgotten part in this video is pure bullshit btw.), but by experts. Humans and great apes, are generally kind at heart. Hard to believe isn't it? I can't say what happens if you got sociopaths in the group though.
I’ve been in my fair share of crazy situations, the 2003 blackout in NYC where those who had made it home were handing out water, and offering shade to the elderly who had to walk home, and then there’s hurricane Katrina….I was there in the aftermath of the flood and there was a sense of community I have never again experienced in my life.
I was living in Washington heights during the black out. They were looting a bit & as a young college student, my friends & i had to walk out in the dark arm to arm with a flashlight at our feet, to find food lol. Fun times, genuinely.
Thanks @Thoughty2 for bringing my dad's story to light. The more attention it gets the better. I've already spoken with Rutger and thanked him for getting the story the attention it deserves but I appreciate anyone with a solid platform who is willing to share this story even more. Thank you
Sad that there is little belief given to your comment. I believe you are truly related to this story. I wonder if you have tried any island survival as well.
@@sigurdtheblue it doesn't bother me. I don't know these people nor do I care if they believe or not. I am just thankful this story is getting tge attention it deserves finally. I talk to my Dad Sione 2 maybe 3 times a year so not that close. I have not tried island survival myself.. I don't think I would do well as I was born in the states.
"Lord of the Flies" was a story everyone read at school when I was a kid in the UK. I'm not sure why? I think it was a way of reinforcing why societal norms are important. Listen boys, if you don't follow English rules you'll end up hunting each other for sport and that's why we play cricket.
DE Miss I read it senior year for school even though I had read it way before, I think schools just choose different years depending on where you live in the US
Damn these boys had some serious perseverance! It’s such an amazing turn of events they were ever found at all. Wow, the presentation you put into that story really made it shine, beautiful you could say. And it’s totally true that we are hardwired to seek out the negative, and then as if a bad cosmic joke, complain about actually finding it. I cannot count how many times I’ve heard people say that the news, or newspaper only reports the worst of things. Yet, they keep right on reading for more. Well played 42! 👍
@@Thoughty2 ah, no problem mate. Thought so much. Everyone makes mistakes once in a while and that’s the first one I ever noticed. Keep up your good work!
"But how did such a heart-warming story go unnoticed for so long?" It's been a pretty well-known story since it happened, especially in Australia and New Zealand. Some guy who recently wrote a book notwithstanding.
There were hens, eggs, and starches (taro I think is the name of that fruit) from the former farmers, plus the fat from coconut. And meat from fish if they were fishing (but eggs are better or getting chicken meat). They built chicken scoops, so they caught some. That is enough to survive - it is not a very varied diet (it depends if there were any berries, plants that were edible and that they knew. So if they knew them, a little more variety). Not a lot of choices, but enough. And they were healthy teenage boys with plenty of workout, and enough to eat, so you bet they were in good physical shape.
As a previous student at a Catholic boarding school in the middle of nowhere, I can confirm that if me and the boys had an island we could run away to, we would have.
@@CaptainDad28 I appreciate the question, and the unfortunate answer is it has happened. There are priests that would take advantage of others on such a way, however, they are extremely few. Priests are men who have dedicated their lives to God, and they have been the greatest friends and role models I could ask for. It is unfortunate that a few tarnish the reputation of the many. So, no, the 'stereotype' is false.
@@willshaferly703 in Poland Catholics priests doesn't take advantage on their own ppl they protect them and move to other churches when they do this same to other kids until it will be viral and everywhere in media 😅 Ofc they don't get punishment like "normal people" I will say it is a joke not a punishment 🤷🏻♂️
I thought this as well then I considered that you could technically live for 15 months on the island and then die (on the island). That wouldn't really be "surviving" if living until normal old age or making it off the island is classified as survival. In that way the thumb / title don't really give away the full story necessarily.
“They thought they were little Marco polos” Tongans and Fijians have been sailing back and fourth for thousands of years might as well say they thought they were their grandpa
Yep, sailing back and forth with the proper knowledge of water navigation and prolly either a map or a compass... But the boys don't have any of those...
@@romnellincolndeguzman7244 Tongans and Fijians are Pacific Islanders, their culture, especially these two cultures, comes heavily from wayfinders who could accurately sail thousands of miles using only the sky and stars
Props to that rural Pacific Islander survival skills of the time. That and coconuts and bamboo. Coconuts are so useful. You can drink it, eat it, and turn the skin into a bowl. Bamboo can be used for shelter or a makeshift fishing net
@Clayton Berkey Actually that was quoted from the video so don’t insult the person who quoted it also just don’t say that the video is bs either because the creator probably took a while to makes it :D
@@philjohnson4607 same, screw being controlled by stupidity and being annoyed by things that make others laugh, non playable characters unite! The players are dumb
UA-cam commenter: I need fake internet points to make myself feel special Proceeds to make the same god damn like-farming comment format that’s used 100’s of times a day, as if it’s still humorous.
I'm thoroughly impressed with those boys. I mean, ok they had the advantage of growing up on an island in the first place, but they still did brilliantly. Kids in most first world countries wouldn't even know how to light a fire, let alone survive.
The human body can only survive 3 weeks (21 days) without food. So I would argue that it was supposed to be 8 not 80 days. This would therefore confirm the reasoning for the ‘on the 9th day’ term
Dude honestly, your videos have gotten so much better over the years, i don’t know how long I’ve been watching you probably around 6 years now and your evolution in editing and video style has really and truly exceeded any expectations
So why was there never a movie made about these boys? I mean....the man who found them was rich and had connections. They shouldn't have been forgotten!
They did make a movie it just didn't end up being a Hollywood movie it was there in Australia. But yeah you seriously would have thought somebody would have exported that b**** to America we would have made them tons of money
You know what... I love this story. It's absolutely awesome. I guess I go outside the curve of people liking bad news and stories that are negative. I know myself that i have heard of people who seek to rule and have power over others. but we need people who will get things done, more than we need someone to say "do that.." . We need more people to ask "can you help me with this." Because the job is started, you have shown it can be done and you are working towards the goal. You are not in charge. But you are the leader, you show how to do things and you make things work by doing. Who wants to rule the world ? I definetly do not. Because you are then responsible for what happens. It is better to show others what is needed, than it is to demand they do something.
Bad news would run around the world while good news is still getting it's shoes on... If only we could built a spacecraft that ran on bad news, it would go much faster than light but no one would be pleased to see you when you got there.. ( Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy )
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There was only six, he says “the six strong met at the beach.” They all survived as I understand which is amazing considering a broken leg is almost a death sentence
@isaL Muhamad RizaL yeah I can read, what you said still makes absolutely no sense. Not to mention whatever racist remark you were trying to make has been completely voided by your inability to form coherent sentences at the level of a 4 year old
Incredibly smart how the 6 boys set the rules and duties right to make life good together despite being the stuck just them on a tiny island. Quite the contrary to "Lord of the flies" which we had to read at school at some point as a kid. It haunted me for the rest of my childhood and actually still gives me the chills now even 20 years later.
Glad these boys all survived. Imagine if schools are teaching survival skills instead of recruiting kids on how to fit in the world of Lalaland raising the banner that they must fit in. Kids like them know how to deal with stress and live a happy and content life.
Not in the 1950s & 60s but not now. Pacific Islanders are sadly as domesticated as the rest of the developed world. Most now wouldn’t have the skills those boys had all those years ago.
@@matty6848 that's just an incorrect assumption. I live on the biggest Pacific island where 87% of the population live in rural areas. This statistic is similar in many pacific islands where there are more people living in rural areas than urban areas. These people living in rural areas could definitely survive on an island by themselves.
Yeah and also coconuts. If you're thirsty and need food a coconut can do wonders. The skin can also be turned into a bowl. Bamboo also provide shelter and makeshift nets to catch fish
@@bmona7550 yes. The resources are there, its the skills and knowledge that's more important. Like how to climb a coconut tree or how to make a makeshift knife out of rocks to cut a bamboo, how to weave a net or roof out of a coconut leaf or how to start a fire. All these the islanders had
@@simonextra9689 hey mate. how do you think 15 year olds would fair tho? would they be mature enough? do they still know all the islander ways or are they too obsessed with phones ns hit?
honestly, the survival method of human connection and empathy can be seen very vividly in WW2, in POW camps. the Japanese were known to be especially cruel with their prisoners, and the Australians took the brunt of it because of their location in the pacific. but it was Australian mateship and community that helped them to persevere, giving them one of the highest survival rates in any POW camp. it's incredible how humans can come together when faced with despair. not everything is doom and gloom, i believe people naturally want to help others.
@John Milton If only ppl followed logic and used a real measuring system. Oh wait, they do, only the country with masses of ignorant ppl doesn't, i wonder why that is... not! I already answered myself.
@@Ebani well we took the British system so give them shit.its to costly to change now,workers would have to be retrained, machines recalibrate,maps rewritten. So I do wonder why people offer such a illogical and complicated unit of measurement to America.🙄
It’s crazy to find out that there hasn’t been a movie about this yet with the right actors this would be a blockbuster hit I’d love to see it one-day come to life and that last comment you made about people only want to see the worst outcome, castaway was a happy ending so that’s not a factual comment he survived yes his wife moved on with her life but he was found just like these men and that movie was a massive hit in that year and still is to this day I believe the story deserves to be on the big screen it’s pretty impressive
There is another book much more similar to this story, called "Two Years' Vacation" by Jules Verne. In it the children work together and in the end all survive :)
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Egg
@@jerrysmith8624 yes
@@jerrysmith8624 egg
@@jerrysmith8624 Ayo! Very good
@@MrPopo-rn3rj yes
Imagine the bond they share after going through this together...
After that one boy go to the orochimaru
If im one of them the only bond we're gonna have with each other is hunter and prey
@@amirulmh6057 ok man
@@amirulmh6057 k
@@amirulmh6057 ok
Sounds like a pretty sick book plot ngl
Yes indeed.
Lord of the Flies!
@Spanish John yet... They haven't killed each other yet.
Facts. Would read
@Spanish John Peter Pan also mutilates and kills the lost boys when they get to big and old
Lord of flies: "people will just go savage and kill each other in few months"
real life: "apes together strong"
The stories is more metaphorical but yeah you are right.
To be fair in 'Lord of the Flies' they varied in age and they weren't friends they didn't know each other.
@@htoodoh5770 yeah but Golding wrote it because he was a teacher at a all boys school and was pissed at the very popular adventure island books where young English boys befriend the wild natives.
I mean... the world’s history (and current events) don’t really agree with your conclusion. Yes, there are stories of cooperation; in fact, it’s the main reason we have a civilization at all. But there’s also the mongol hoards, the romans, Bolsheviks.... and on it goes. I think lord of the flies was an important insight into one aspect of human nature, not an inevitable conclusion.
That's because they had rules and stuck to them. Without rules society falls apart.
It’s heartwarming to know that they refrained from fighting and even had a 4 hour break apart from others. They handled that better than any naked and afraid people
So you're telling me everyone has resisted the temptation to make a movie titled "Ata boys"?
Hey! Great title .. lol
🤣🤣
Haha that's amazing 😂😂
Good pun
Outstanding!
Whats really crazy is that 5 of them managed to take care of the boy with a broken leg until it got better
What's so crazy about that? Seems like normal to care about your friend.
@@diggie9598 its crazy because his leg was broken and they had no hospitals or medicine
That is crazy for people from the west LULW
@@real6858 LULW POGCHAMP
@@Patrickh08 cringe
Definitely they have a "Me and the boys" memory
Lmfao
me and the boys surviving in a remote island
@@Lazuley_ all the other kids telling simple "me and the boys" stories while these 6 brave lads laughs at their stories and told everyone they survived in a remote island for 15 months xdd
Ya think
Yep
Tonga as well as Samoa and many of those other Pacific Islands have beautiful cultures that emphasize community and working together for survival. That photo of the six boys where one is holding a guitar is so beautiful to me, and the raw happiness and joy on their faces is just so inspiring
Its a male things as well
Yeah the boys' practical experience and cultural context no doubt played a big role in why their story ended up good in the end, unlike Golding's Lord of the Flies (which I read in school). I was left with the impression from reading it, that the Naval officer's comment at the end shows that the British would naturally not fare as well in the same kind of circumstances.
i read the lord of the flies but its WAAYYYY more violent than the real story
Lol true
For sure
@isaL Muhamad RizaL LOTF wasn’t a documentary about the kids, it was a work of literature about the importance of civilisation.
@isaL Muhamad RizaL No shit?
@Gabriel Bermudez reading it right now in English 2 honors on chapter 4
This story is actually more in tune with what human history looks like, a collective effort to survive. It reminds me of a famous story about Margaret Mead:
“Years ago, anthropologist Margaret Mead was asked by a student what she considered to be the first sign of civilization in a culture. The student expected Mead to talk about fishhooks or clay pots or grinding stones.
But no. Mead said that the first sign of civilization in an ancient culture was a femur (thighbone) that had been broken and then healed. Mead explained that in the animal kingdom, if you break your leg, you die. You cannot run from danger, get to the river for a drink or hunt for food. You are meat for prowling beasts. No animal survives a broken leg long enough for the bone to heal.
A broken femur that has healed is evidence that someone has taken time to stay with the one who fell, has bound up the wound, has carried the person to safety and has tended the person through recovery. Helping someone else through difficulty is where civilization starts, Mead said.”
We are at our best when we serve others. Be civilized.
- Ira Byock.”
These boys were Mead’s Medley :)
Thanks for sharing this. Really uplifting to read!
Perhaps as sign of evolution?
I swear thats just the difference between predators and non-predators
Interesting. But then,civilisation begins before and beyond humanity, as we know from chimps and some other social species, that they take care of their ills, olds of woundeds.
@@blanco7726 Nope. More like non-social vs social species, and even then there are varying levels and kinds of social behaviours, some of which include caring for the sick or even old and infirm.
They’re the ones who are worthy of using the phrase “When I was your age...”
Underrated comment
yeah needs more likes
8/10 rated
Yeah 😁😁😁
when i was your age..
I needed this story today. Often we get bogged down with how bad people can be. Sometimes we all need a story of hope and cooperation.
I think calling them "The Real Lord of the Flies" is absolutely perfect, since TLotF was written to claim that human nature was evil, but when it came down to the wire, and a bunch of kids were actually stranded on an island together, they showed everyone how a real group of kids would've acted if they needed each other to survive.
Worth notice that in the Lord of the Flies there was much larger group of boys, and that made it possible to form factions parties, and wars eventually, 6 simply isn’t enough for that to happen
Lord of the flies has many more kids and their age is from 13 to 6 so it causes chaos
Real human nature would be death, if we were all raised in the wild from birth each family would kill each other for resources and safety
@@vikzn1607 That's exactly why we did exactly that when we were hunter gatherers. I see nothing wrong with this comment whatsoever. This reads as 100 percent true. /S
"Death becomes me" - Vikzn, 2021
@@vikzn1607 Just not true, don't believe the brainwashing. We are wired to cooperate with each other, without it we would never have developed civilization and would have probably died out by now.
Their are probably millions of stories like these and we will never know since most stories end in most likely death
There
You're right, EVERYBODY'S story ends in death.
@@ophilianecr it's not an afterlife if it's one life in different forms.
@David Stroka no it's not.
@@Christopher-Lenz yes it is. It's really not all that common to run away from home and go to sea and get lost on a deserted island
Rest In Peace Peter... Peter Warner sadly died today when his small sailing boat capsized while crossing the bar at Ballina, Australia. He died doing what he loved at 90 years old. You will not be forgotten
Wow. Thanks for the update.🐋
Lol
@@JamesDalton6002 why the fuck do you find this funy?
@@asmi14 exactly
thats so sad :(
The funniest part of _Lord of the Flies_ is that it was never meant to be a "oh, look how savage humans are when left ungoverned in their natural state, men are beasts, etc. etc.." William Golding was just so _sick_ of the huge amounts of 'British children go on adventures elsewhere' books that were being published at the time, and was also sick of his students, who he despised as spoiled, horrible specimens of people, that he wrote the book as a response. Each character is based off a real life student of his and he definitely achieved his goal of scandalizing British society with the book's publication. Children, especially 'upstanding,' wealthy British boys had never been portrayed as anything but genteel and sophisticated before this, so this was like the equivalent of something like _The Exorcist_ or Stephen King's _It_ in terms of literary backlash and secret admiration. It was only later on that this idea of him trying to showcase the true nature of humans came into being. He really wrote the book because he was fed up with the literary trend of the era and thought his students were an example of how boarding schools and gentry at the time allowed their children to become cruel, horrible people without exercising any mediating force and how the upper class was letting their children go to shit. He really _shouldn't_ have been a teacher...
TLDR; Golding wrote _Lord of the Flies_ as a fuck you to his contemporaries and students, with each character specifically, _recognizably_ modeled after one of his students as an even bigger fuck you to them, their parents, and his peers because he was just so fed up with them.
Thanks for the New information!
I'm not reading all that but ig good for u
Ah, spite the greatest motivator of humanity.
Not much difference between those two intentions.
@@uouq9558 his comment has more likes than any of ur useless videos tho. So good for u ig
Imagine being stranded in a deserted island for 15 month, and back just to be put in a prison
If I found myself stranded on an island I don’t think I would try to leave
Imagine someone telling you to imagine something in a story you just heard.
@@notyetskeletal4809 hmmmm i can't imagine that happened
What surprises me is not one of them said, "F**k this, I'm going back to Ata."
And then someone else capitalizes monetarily off your story lol
I'll never forget piggy he was a real one
Absolutely hated that book when having to read and dissect it at school. Should have read about this amazing story instead! Heartwarming stuff!
@@hossywoof agreed, year 8 (middle school) was an odd experience
@@hossywoof We had to read The Catcher in the Rye. This would have been more of an adventure.
Looks like he didn't make it
He was the weakest link
This is a certified "me and the boys" moment
Yep
Yup
Yeah
Yes
Certified mr beast moment
The grumpy owner of the boat deserves a recognition. He never lost the faith the boys were alive and he could sue them some day.
What an absolute lad for not only rescuing those boys but for helping get them out of jail and giving them jobs.
Somehow living on a deserted island doesn't sound too bad right now. 🤔
until you get sick
add internet and it'll be paradise
I'm in UK, does that count lol.
@@andrewsmail8307 Nice try, but I said DESERTED!!! LMAO CHEERS!
no chics, just chickens??!! nooooo waaaay...
“SURVIVAL OF THE FRIENDLIEST “ that is the best quote I’ve heard in a while, thank you.
Plot twist: The island acutally had to try to survive with 6 boys on it.
Lol HAHAHAHAHQ
#sadIsland :(🥺😭😫☹️😩😣:(
I diagnose their power level with small island level
Lol true
Lol true
Imagine how happy the parents were when they found the boys
Yeah, would've loved to see the reactions of the parents and other close ones after they got news of the boys' survival.
And then they leave again
They also probably started yelling at them afterwards
they had a feast for a week straight, yes one of the boys is my great grandad
and after the feast they were thrown into jail for stealing
“They were drifting for 80 days, but luckily on the 9th day”
Thoughty2, 2020
I’m still not sure if they were on the boat for 80 days or 8 days.
Me too, confused
2020 where every day felt like... Thoughty2 was just testing our attention spans
With no food or water, it had to be 8.
@@theremedy9171 I agree but they actually write 80 on the video.
I'm Tonga but Im happy when someone talk about my country 🇹🇴☺️🙌💪
This is the literal counter argument to Lord of the Flies.
In the book the kids were young and didn't know eachother.And they were spoiled brats.
But in real life the group was made up of older kids and they were all friends.
@@Raccon_Detective. Spot on! I was just about to say the same.
Sadly, people tend to cooperate better with those they’re familiar with. I am not that kind of person, I believe in special situations like this we MUST work together and not fall to division or else we are all gonna be f*ked together. Do or die.
I also think their faith in God played a role. Not bullet proof, but will keep you off each other’s throats for a bit.
these are tongan polynesian kids from tonga who where friends not a bunch of spoiled brats.
The fact that they thought that was a viable journey suggests the nuns weren't very good at teaching them geography or common sense.
Nuns don't teach geography or common sense.
They teach "You will Obey! Or you will be in pain!!
tbf they did travel 200 miles while drifting
@@perryhenderson9242 that sounds a lot like religion in a nut shell.
Or maybe they did but they weren't paying attention in class? You know, students don't always pay attention, especially when they hate school so much they'd rather sail to Fiji.
The nuns wouldn't be teaching them how to escape in the first place. Plus I bet they know how to get to Fiji, they were heading in the right direction at first. Anything else is just a lack of forsight since this wasn't some expedition of experts but a bunch of rowdy teens.
Crazy how there actually was a kid who fell off a cliff just like in the "Lord of the Flies" story. Fortunately he survived instead of going splat on the rocks below.
There are more similarities. You'd almost suspect someone of making things up so it fits the narrative of the noble nature man.
Free food
prismo can i have a jar of pickle pls
Hi prismo, how's jake doing?
RIP piggy, he was a real g. Gone not forgotten
As a kid my favourite movie was The Blue Lagoon because I wanted to go and live on a tropical island, so I really loved this true story. These 6 boys behaved way better than a lot of adults would have.
"Adrift for 80 days" and then " mercifully on the 9th day"...
Ya I caught that too, what was it 80 or 9??? 80 days I can see them drifting further then what was stated .
I caught this too! I was thinking, how could they go 80 days without food?!?! It is obvious now that he meant 8 days. Still tough to be without food for that long!
Was looking for this comment
They saw it on the 9th day .. then circled it like a drain for 71 more ... 🤣
I think he meant 8 days
I find it funny how the island they ended up at wasn’t even near the general direction they wanted
But they have achieved their goal
If someone through me in jail after 15 months of being stranded on an island... Come on dont you think thats punishment enough.
It was rather horrible to arrest them before they could even see their relatives!!! Geesh, treated them like hardened criminals. Plus if that boat was worth anything, why did it start to sink in less than a week. Seems that boat owner finally saw a way to profit off those young boys misdeed. If their family wanted them home, that boatman must be paid first. Yes; of course, they had ‘borrowed’ the boat but it was a miracle that they all lived and even thrived. Good true story.
@@slcRN1971 And eventually were sent back to the nuns...
@@richardpotter6313 .. Nope! Didn't sound like it .. sounds more like they got into a fishing business ..
@@slcRN1971 now I know why they hated the old man so much
Duh
Definitely one of my favorite Thoughty2 videos. I've been a fan and a subscriber from very early on (pre-mustache) and this video makes me feel good and puts a big smile on my face. 😁
Peter Warner: *What an aamazing story!*
Grumpy Old man: *Finally found the culprits.*
Of course it's a good story!
And back in the day when I was a teenager, the same exact thing happened to me!
Except that instead of being stranded on an island, I just stayed home, with myself, playing Quake and other video games on the computer...
OMG... I wonder if Warner Bros would be interested in buying my story?
"Okay guys we need to start building essential facilities to survive."
~Where should we put the Gym?
Staying fit is essential in a situation like that.
@@cofedafoax5912 hunting and working to get essentials is a great way to get fit as itself
In such situations you don't have time and energy to workout
🤣🤣🤣🤣
The real question is why the he'll did they spend all that time building a batmitten course
Moral of the story: Failure to prepare is to prepare to fail.
Thank you, Sphinx. You're so very mysterious!
The moral is: Only steal boats equipped with GPS!
Sounds like they succeeded. Probably the only reason they wanted off of the island was because there were no girls
Says the ever present ever brilliant armchair quarterback.
Except they didn't fail they won and built a bond like many will never have or experience.
So glad I found your channel, your videos are the perfect mix of interesting facts and wonderful humour.
They put "Lord of the Flies" to shame.
Hahah
Hell yeah
Well the didn't have to deal with like 20 seven or ten year olds
Yeah this is the real "lord of the flies", not the book which people believe would happen if people were stuck on an island
I read the story in school in 1981 (in english class and afterwards it was thoroughly discussed). The assumptions the books makes, was already then considered false. Not just because of this story (the forgotten part in this video is pure bullshit btw.), but by experts. Humans and great apes, are generally kind at heart. Hard to believe isn't it? I can't say what happens if you got sociopaths in the group though.
I cant just piss off to Fiji to avoid studies...
I LIVE in Fiji
xD
I’m afraid you will have to piss off to Tonga then lol
LMAO
If you drink tap water, it isn’t water from the company, but it’s still Fiji water.
Damnnn your water taste like shit
"hey guys remember that one time we got stranded on an island for over a year"
"Lmao yeah, that was wild"
Good times, good times
No, why? I remember drinking a lot of salt water though.
We had the time, we should have dug for treasure and we didn't.
Ooo I member
I’ve been in my fair share of crazy situations, the 2003 blackout in NYC where those who had made it home were handing out water, and offering shade to the elderly who had to walk home, and then there’s hurricane Katrina….I was there in the aftermath of the flood and there was a sense of community I have never again experienced in my life.
I was living in Washington heights during the black out. They were looting a bit & as a young college student, my friends & i had to walk out in the dark arm to arm with a flashlight at our feet, to find food lol. Fun times, genuinely.
Thanks @Thoughty2 for bringing my dad's story to light. The more attention it gets the better. I've already spoken with Rutger and thanked him for getting the story the attention it deserves but I appreciate anyone with a solid platform who is willing to share this story even more.
Thank you
One of em is ur dad?! Whoa cool!!
I smell 💩
Stop the cap
Sad that there is little belief given to your comment. I believe you are truly related to this story. I wonder if you have tried any island survival as well.
@@sigurdtheblue it doesn't bother me. I don't know these people nor do I care if they believe or not. I am just thankful this story is getting tge attention it deserves finally. I talk to my Dad Sione 2 maybe 3 times a year so not that close. I have not tried island survival myself.. I don't think I would do well as I was born in the states.
"Lord of the Flies" was a story everyone read at school when I was a kid in the UK. I'm not sure why? I think it was a way of reinforcing why societal norms are important. Listen boys, if you don't follow English rules you'll end up hunting each other for sport and that's why we play cricket.
Yeah, I live in Washington state (the US) and I read that in my Freshman year.
@@emmawithers5294 That seems kind of late for that book. My son is a freshman and his class was required to read that in 6th grade.
I hated that book!
Read it in English class in Canada (BC) myself, back in the Eighties. Don't remember which grade tho.
DE Miss I read it senior year for school even though I had read it way before, I think schools just choose different years depending on where you live in the US
Me and the boys on our way to a remote island after being done with school
I guess this seems easy now after lockdowns.
@@coraldiamond1922 hahahaha yess
Me and the boys are watching this on the boat to this island right now
Damn these boys had some serious perseverance! It’s such an amazing turn of events they were ever found at all.
Wow, the presentation you put into that story really made it shine, beautiful you could say. And it’s totally true that we are hardwired to seek out the negative, and then as if a bad cosmic joke, complain about actually finding it. I cannot count how many times I’ve heard people say that the news, or newspaper only reports the worst of things. Yet, they keep right on reading for more. Well played 42! 👍
Me: Omg he's gonna tell me the distance between Tonga and Fiji what a nice man
Him: *m i l e s*
sounds like a you problem tbh
I’m American and idk why our measuring system still exists
Just think of a lot and you’ll get it
@@michaelvillanueva1491 yes
Just look up how many kilonanometers or whatever crap you use is 500 miles. It ain't hard
Wait, they were drifting for 80 days but found the island on the 9th day?
i noticed that to
I know this story well, they were at sea for eight days, not eighty. Likely an erroneous zero accidentally added by one of Arrans team.
Correction: eight days, not eighty - so sorry for the mistake!
Thank you for asking this lol i had to rewind it twice trying to figure out which it was. Thank god for comments
@@Thoughty2 ah, no problem mate. Thought so much. Everyone makes mistakes once in a while and that’s the first one I ever noticed.
Keep up your good work!
its pretty ironic that this story happened when Gilligan's island was on the air
Me And The Boys Island
Me and the boys posing
On Gilligan's Island: I look right at the ship, look left to the girls, look center at the signal fire and stomp that thing out.
"But how did such a heart-warming story go unnoticed for so long?" It's been a pretty well-known story since it happened, especially in Australia and New Zealand. Some guy who recently wrote a book notwithstanding.
They look pretty buff for living that long on a remote island. Shows the skill in acquiring food.
There were hens, eggs, and starches (taro I think is the name of that fruit) from the former farmers, plus the fat from coconut. And meat from fish if they were fishing (but eggs are better or getting chicken meat). They built chicken scoops, so they caught some.
That is enough to survive - it is not a very varied diet (it depends if there were any berries, plants that were edible and that they knew. So if they knew them, a little more variety). Not a lot of choices, but enough. And they were healthy teenage boys with plenty of workout, and enough to eat, so you bet they were in good physical shape.
Well they did have wieghts
@@Jem2556 Weights and training is the easy part. Getting enough calories and protein is the hard one in this situation.
@@vast634 fuck I forgot
Nah they tongan they built different
As a previous student at a Catholic boarding school in the middle of nowhere, I can confirm that if me and the boys had an island we could run away to, we would have.
Gotta ask, the catholic priest stereo type true?
@@CaptainDad28 I appreciate the question, and the unfortunate answer is it has happened. There are priests that would take advantage of others on such a way, however, they are extremely few. Priests are men who have dedicated their lives to God, and they have been the greatest friends and role models I could ask for. It is unfortunate that a few tarnish the reputation of the many. So, no, the 'stereotype' is false.
@@willshaferly703 thank you! Im christian and kinda get offended whenever ppl say stuff like them stereotypes
@@willshaferly703 I guess I never got the notification for your reply. That’s awesome though brother. We should all hope for the answer you gave.
@@willshaferly703 in Poland Catholics priests doesn't take advantage on their own ppl they protect them and move to other churches when they do this same to other kids until it will be viral and everywhere in media 😅 Ofc they don't get punishment like "normal people" I will say it is a joke not a punishment 🤷🏻♂️
The thumbnail: DID THEY SURVIVE?!?!
The title: how did 6 boys survive on this remote island for 15 months
4 are still alive now and working as consultants on the movie
He provide answer for the question
A good teacher 🤣
I thought this as well then I considered that you could technically live for 15 months on the island and then die (on the island). That wouldn't really be "surviving" if living until normal old age or making it off the island is classified as survival.
In that way the thumb / title don't really give away the full story necessarily.
@@RipiaKim 3 now
What an amazing story! Loved that they united and thrived together in times of need ❤️ I will ever read that book though.
“They thought they were little Marco polos” Tongans and Fijians have been sailing back and fourth for thousands of years might as well say they thought they were their grandpa
Yep, sailing back and forth with the proper knowledge of water navigation and prolly either a map or a compass...
But the boys don't have any of those...
@@romnellincolndeguzman7244 Tongans and Fijians are Pacific Islanders, their culture, especially these two cultures, comes heavily from wayfinders who could accurately sail thousands of miles using only the sky and stars
@@romnellincolndeguzman7244 dude. They did have a map. Just not a paper one. They just didnt know how to use it properly
Might as well say MarcoPolo was a little Tongan.
More accurate.
Props to that rural Pacific Islander survival skills of the time. That and coconuts and bamboo. Coconuts are so useful. You can drink it, eat it, and turn the skin into a bowl. Bamboo can be used for shelter or a makeshift fishing net
"Rather brutal, but in boarding schools that's probably called character building." LMAO!
LULW
@Clayton Berkey Actually that was quoted from the video so don’t insult the person who quoted it also just don’t say that the video is bs either because the creator probably took a while to makes it :D
@Clayton Berkey yea do you know what a joke is? Besides he is talking about the abusive trash the boys used to go.
GF: he’s probably cheating
Me and the boys:
Hahaha so sophisticated
@BeforeTheBridge you can see these formulaic comments in every video, NPCs love them
@@DGP406 me npc
@@philjohnson4607 same, screw being controlled by stupidity and being annoyed by things that make others laugh, non playable characters unite! The players are dumb
UA-cam commenter: I need fake internet points to make myself feel special
Proceeds to make the same god damn like-farming comment format that’s used 100’s of times a day, as if it’s still humorous.
I'm thoroughly impressed with those boys. I mean, ok they had the advantage of growing up on an island in the first place, but they still did brilliantly.
Kids in most first world countries wouldn't even know how to light a fire, let alone survive.
I've worked with Tongans here in Australia concreting for many years. They are some of the nicest smartest people that I've ever met.
And they love spam xD as a Hawaiian I cracked up at that part lol
80 days on the boat, but on on day 9 they found the island? Huh?
I think that was a typo
The nun's were not competent at teaching basic maths, so best guess is anywhere between 9 and 80 days.
@@JediJan ..
The human body can only survive 3 weeks (21 days) without food. So I would argue that it was supposed to be 8 not 80 days. This would therefore confirm the reasoning for the ‘on the 9th day’ term
@@bcdrmontages4782 depends on the person climate snd his body fat %
Thoughty2 is the final honest media
I needed this today, thanks for the great content!
Dude honestly, your videos have gotten so much better over the years, i don’t know how long I’ve been watching you probably around 6 years now and your evolution in editing and video style has really and truly exceeded any expectations
The boys were great at “The Forest” and “Don’t starve together”
Thankfully they didn't have mutated cannibals to deal with. That makes everything tougher.
So why was there never a movie made about these boys? I mean....the man who found them was rich and had connections. They shouldn't have been forgotten!
Was this not the true story of lord of the flies?
@@seriousnesstv7902 noooooo. That vile book is completely fictional. This is a separate true story.
@@dryb3301 ahh thanks
They did make a movie it just didn't end up being a Hollywood movie it was there in Australia. But yeah you seriously would have thought somebody would have exported that b**** to America we would have made them tons of money
He literally talked about Warner selling the story to release the boys from jail as long as they were willing to cooperate for the movie.
You know what... I love this story. It's absolutely awesome. I guess I go outside the curve of people liking bad news and stories that are negative.
I know myself that i have heard of people who seek to rule and have power over others. but we need people who will get things done, more than we need someone to say "do that.." . We need more people to ask "can you help me with this." Because the job is started, you have shown it can be done and you are working towards the goal. You are not in charge. But you are the leader, you show how to do things and you make things work by doing.
Who wants to rule the world ? I definetly do not. Because you are then responsible for what happens. It is better to show others what is needed, than it is to demand they do something.
as someone who grew up in a Catholic school, I relate to those pupils
My condolences or how ever the fuck it's written
Same
Definitely, I hated my school
Sister Mary Elizabeth. She could cut your liver out with a 12 inch ruler!😳
I got expelled from my overly religious school. Similar to catholic school
I like the real story more than the made-up one... It shows how a group of individuals can THRIVE under the most difficult of situations.
Her: he’s probably out cheating
Me and the boys:
Wow! What an absolutely beautiful story! Gives me so much hope for us! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Thank you for sharing this with us :)
Sometimes being stranded on an remote island and using survival skills just sounds my kinda party. Anyone down? 😂
Yes. Hope you're good at badminton. 😁
Hope you enjoy long stories about random shit
yeah
Yes... where and when?
im in. where. and when
3:18 You said "eighty days" instead of "eight days".
No tHeY SpeNt eAgHty dAys wIthOuT fOoD oR wAtEr
I came here to gripe about this. 😐
Please stop, we all already know!
The could have gone round the world in 80 days!
80 days on boat 8 days floating in the sea after their boat crushed...
16:03 the Chinese have a saying
"Good news never leave the door, bad news would spread a thousand miles"
Bad news would run around the world while good news is still getting it's shoes on...
If only we could built a spacecraft that ran on bad news, it would go much faster than light but no one would be pleased to see you when you got there.. ( Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy )
I love your channel. Informative and educational, I want to thank you!
Girls: They're probably out cheating on us
The boys:
Lol
😂😂😂
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I agree, most people are kind when the chips are down. If that wasn't true, we'd be extinct by now.
Exactly.
Let's hear it for teamwork and time out, and old abandoned settlements whose residence didn't bother to catch all the chickens before they left.
the tittle: "how did 6 boys survive for 15 months?"
At the start: "8 boys were...."
me: "oh-"
cannibalism
There was only six, he says “the six strong met at the beach.” They all survived as I understand which is amazing considering a broken leg is almost a death sentence
@isaL Muhamad RizaL I’m sorry... what? 😐
@isaL Muhamad RizaL thats really racist...
@isaL Muhamad RizaL yeah I can read, what you said still makes absolutely no sense. Not to mention whatever racist remark you were trying to make has been completely voided by your inability to form coherent sentences at the level of a 4 year old
Incredibly smart how the 6 boys set the rules and duties right to make life good together despite being the stuck just them on a tiny island.
Quite the contrary to "Lord of the flies" which we had to read at school at some point as a kid. It haunted me for the rest of my childhood and actually still gives me the chills now even 20 years later.
'The lost boys'
Throughout all my childhood thoughts, I knew Peter pan was real
Glad these boys all survived. Imagine if schools are teaching survival skills instead of recruiting kids on how to fit in the world of Lalaland raising the banner that they must fit in. Kids like them know how to deal with stress and live a happy and content life.
I've wished for that all my life.
As a Pacific Islander, the fact that 6 island boys in the 1960's managed to survive on an island by themselves isn't a big deal
Not in the 1950s & 60s but not now. Pacific Islanders are sadly as domesticated as the rest of the developed world. Most now wouldn’t have the skills those boys had all those years ago.
@@matty6848 that's just an incorrect assumption. I live on the biggest Pacific island where 87% of the population live in rural areas. This statistic is similar in many pacific islands where there are more people living in rural areas than urban areas.
These people living in rural areas could definitely survive on an island by themselves.
Yeah and also coconuts. If you're thirsty and need food a coconut can do wonders. The skin can also be turned into a bowl. Bamboo also provide shelter and makeshift nets to catch fish
@@bmona7550 yes. The resources are there, its the skills and knowledge that's more important. Like how to climb a coconut tree or how to make a makeshift knife out of rocks to cut a bamboo, how to weave a net or roof out of a coconut leaf or how to start a fire. All these the islanders had
@@simonextra9689 hey mate. how do you think 15 year olds would fair tho? would they be mature enough? do they still know all the islander ways or are they too obsessed with phones ns hit?
honestly, the survival method of human connection and empathy can be seen very vividly in WW2, in POW camps. the Japanese were known to be especially cruel with their prisoners, and the Australians took the brunt of it because of their location in the pacific. but it was Australian mateship and community that helped them to persevere, giving them one of the highest survival rates in any POW camp. it's incredible how humans can come together when faced with despair. not everything is doom and gloom, i believe people naturally want to help others.
When your chips are down, you become Lord of the Fries.
I like how the boy’s survived 80 days without food and water.
A misspell, captions say 8 days
And then time traveled back to the 9th day and found land.
3:20 captions is says 80 days.
People can't survive that long without food and water. 80 days is almost 3 months.
@@theremedy9171 8 days
474 miles? How long is that in RestOftheWorld-distance? Great video as always though.
@John Milton If only ppl followed logic and used a real measuring system. Oh wait, they do, only the country with masses of ignorant ppl doesn't, i wonder why that is... not! I already answered myself.
@John Milton If only there was a way for people understanding sarcasm or using SI-units
@@Ebani well we took the British system so give them shit.its to costly to change now,workers would have to be retrained, machines recalibrate,maps rewritten.
So I do wonder why people offer such a illogical and complicated unit of measurement to America.🙄
@John Milton the SI is invented not without a purpose you know
762.82 Km if Miles
877.84 Km if Nautical Miles
Love the Segway into ads. Clever and not forced. 10/10
I like that man. It's not survival of the fittest, its survival of the friendliest
When cooperation means survival, people cooperate. When stabbing people in the back means survival people do that as well.
In "The lord of the flies" they created a religion which got more elaborate over time. In this case, the boys ran away from religious cant.
It’s crazy to find out that there hasn’t been a movie about this yet with the right actors this would be a blockbuster hit I’d love to see it one-day come to life and that last comment you made about people only want to see the worst outcome, castaway was a happy ending so that’s not a factual comment he survived yes his wife moved on with her life but he was found just like these men and that movie was a massive hit in that year and still is to this day I believe the story deserves to be on the big screen it’s pretty impressive
Bring back the trend
That Keeps hair stuff is going to make a great x-mas gift for my brother and uncle, thanks!
I actually like these stories more than stories about death and suffering
You always find the most interesting stories 👏
Agreed
There is another book much more similar to this story, called "Two Years' Vacation" by Jules Verne. In it the children work together and in the end all survive :)
Thanks for spoiling the end
One of my favourite videos you've made, loved it!
i literally just read this book for eng 4 and all i gotta say is that i’m mad that they didn’t kill jack merridew
meh roger kinda deserved it more
@@Khan-nm3hp why
That book IS NOT based on these events, it's a piece of fiction that was written before this happened.
Alternative title of the story: Me and the boys playing Ark survival in rl
Most people forget that there is one key thing about surviving when stranded: not dying.
That was deep
wat
Wow
Loved your message at the end!!❤️❤️❤️