Not necessarily true. Carthage went down fighting, and never rose again. Gaul, specifically under Vercingetorix and the Arverni tribe leading them, never truly rose again after their defeat. Additionally, many peoples who violently resisted an occupier were then genocided and ceased to exist, while some collaborators, survived and thrived (i.e. the Kipchaks who submitted to Genghis Khan then ruled the Golden Horde later). The idea that Britain would have ceased to exist if it surrendered, isn't accurate. If it was nuked and genocided, THEN it would cease to exist. The British Empire is what would have ceased to exist, the colonial empire that the great Winston Churchill wanted to preserve. The irony there, is that the very same British Empire was betrayed by it's American allies who during the war, bullied Britain to give up world currency reserve status from the British Pound to the American Dollar (Petrodollar made from British protectorates like Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain, and even the Saudis were allies of the British in WW2, severing ties with the Germans 10 days after the invasion of Poland and exclusively selling oil to the British, which was critically important for the war effort and often unmentioned, the US then stole that relationship, from the Petropound to the Petrodollar), and the US even opposed Britain in the Suez Crisis, a final nail in the coffin of the British Empire (if you can't guarantee trade and transport thru the Suez, maintaining colonies in the Pacific becomes untenable).
@@TexanIndependence I vehemently disagree with your incorrect spelling of the word "its" ("...betrayed by it's [=it is?] American allies..."). The rest is excellent. 🙂
@@TexanIndependence It isn't accurate to think that the UK would have ceased had it been invaded and vanquished by the 3rd Reich, you say. Such a change of regime would have been of no consequence for the UK, you say. You are far too optimistic. Given what they had in store for occupied Europe, how they dismantled France (and that had only been partially done, mind you), the UK would not have fared much better had it been invaded and conquered, and even moreso had the 3rd Reich won the war. The UK simply could not afford to falter and fail.
King George saved the world in this moment. There were many other moments, but this was the darkest moment of the darkest hr of the darkest day, and he had the leadership, kindness, vision and guts to rouse Mr Churchill back to his magic level
The King here realized finally what Chuchill felt all along--you cannot reason with a tiger, and peace would be a mistake. There is no peace with Germany, not with that man leading. You cannot reason with a psychopath hell belt on dominating all that's in its view, they can only be stopped, by greater force.
@@007ndc At huge cost though. The war finally destroyed the British Empire and reduced the United Kingdom to the rank of the lesser powers. A problem that it's still dealing with today.
@@ds1868 true but the British Empire had it's time in the sun and it was time for it to go away and have independence for all those colonies. Now the American empire.......
@@susansurles3776 both men with physical handicaps and foibles they both managed to overcome. Along with FDR in a wheelchair they saved the world from global fascism. We would do well to remember that
I love how they shot this scene with the one stark light bulb and zero fill lighting. It really served to equalize the two characters and showed the raw desparation of the moment historically.
Famously king george vi was a stutterer watch kings speech, his real name was albert but s new king can choose his name and it was decided albert was too germanic!
@@mattyboy4579 From what I've heard the main reason for him picking the name George (which he already had, only not as his first name) was that his great grandfather Prince Albert never could become king (he was married to Queen Victoria, but he wasn't in line for the throne) and that it was seen in the family to be inappropriate for anyone to ever become "Albert the first" since technically in the family he wouldn't be "the first", and so that name although "in the family" was avoided. Same thing with Edward VII who was christened "Albert Edward" but the same thing was done with him, no king Albert, but Edward instead.
The resolve of these two men was the inflection point in history where the human race avoided a devastatingly grim fate. Imagine the world today if the Germans and Japanese had been allowed to build up their strength and conquests unchecked. Doesn’t bear thinking about.
"Well if it isn't him it is a marvellous impersonation". Knowing what sense of humour this couple both had, it would be so nice if that were an actual line. (Although it most likely is just artistic licence, but still.)
Excellent film. Excellent portrayal of a very difficult time in British history. The appeasement movement did have a lot of support, Britain was alone, and Churchill is only proven right in the hindsight of history. No one had a crystal ball at the time.
@@stephenflanagan8518 Stand fast there. The Commonwealth was established in 1926, when it was known as the British Commonwealth of Nations. In 1949 it became the Commonwealth of Nations and is so today. The change of name had no structural significance, other than that being a republic was no barrier to membership.
@@nicktecky55 My father was in the Merchant Navy (Canadian) during WW2. His passport from that time indicated he was born in Canada, but was still considered a British subject.
I love this scene… without the resolve of a few leaders, and the majority of the brave English people, buying time for my people (US) to find our resolve (with a not so subtle nudge from the Japanese), things may have come too late…
The Prime minister of England and the King of England sit down for a little chat. Both are horribly antisocial in their own particularities, but somehow come to the same predilection. "We must join together you and and I to defeat this monstrosity." It's a fantastic scene, and I do not doubt it was shot this way for some obtuse reason.
Stop the England stuff, they were the King and the Prime Minister of the UNITED KINGDOM (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland), stop cutting those 3 other nations by saying England...
King George had served in the military, and Churchill had fought in war before as well. So George would be thr closest ally that could relate to what Churchill was going thru in this time.
The memory of the Somme and Paschendale were fresh in the memory of the British people and their aversion to war was quite understandable no one knew that WW2 would be a war of fire and manuver. Everyone dreaded a nightmare in trenches
I despise the Labour party as much as any man with red blood in his veins, but Churchill was a wartime leader and the country then was tired of war. With hindsight, we can say that Labour should never be elevated to office, but at the time you cannot blame the public for wanting something different.
@@freebird6591 "Every man ever had a statue made of him has been one kind of son of a bitch or another" - Malcom Reynolds This is a feel goody bio-flick. A lot of the scenes didnt even happen, much less happen in the way depicted. Just like The Kings Speech. The point is not to be an absolute faithful representation of events, that would be boring as shit and also.....lets face it, people are assholes, if you saw them in their most candid states every idol you hold dear would loose their shine real quick. The point is to tell a story in the spirit of the times to shed light on a specific figure or point in history, and you are welcome to further research the reality of it on your own (I mean, we live in the era of star trek data pads.....you can look up more than just cat videos and AI generated pseudo-fact shorts.....and I encourage everyone to do so....) Spoiler: There are no saints. Even Hitler thought he was right, had worries, doubts, triumphs.... Oh, and since we're poopooing history, reality check: one of the largest exporters of africans to the slave markets was african. And female. So....exactly how far do you want to go down this path? Thats the truth of the human experience that are tinted in shades of rose, and glorified to easy digestion on the screen. Deal with it ;p
But may be a thing of the future. Look for courage in the people you vote for. Look for those with the courage to disagree with the majority. Most politicians today are cowards unfortunately.
Hirohito was only nominally in power. Most decisions were made by the high command of the imperial army who later even oficially took over the government. Showa Tenno for the nost part was only a figure head. The entire lead up into the war (invading Manchuria, Marco Polo bridge…) was instigated by the imperial army without orders from the Emperor
We know that King George never expected to be king, was quite shy, and had quite a, stammer. But did the king _really_ visit Churchill privately? True or not, this scene (and the PM jumping on the Tube) make for good drama.
Alcoholic, sarcastic, caustic and irascible at times yet this very flawed man probably helped save civilization. He was dead wrong on both Ireland and India as well as Gallipoli knowingly put munitions on the Lusitania complex great Man I admire him greatly he is the only man alive that save Britain in that time
Halifax was almost as big a traitor as Edward was. This is a wonderful film. It shows the strengths and flaws of the characters. It is so sad we do not have leaders who have courage, ethics and honesty as they did then. Our world is poised on a cusp of complete annihilation due to the fascist once again and there really is no one to lead us in any country.
you can reason with a tiger. It has been done. educate yourself, never stop, its what we are here for. not ment as an insult. but as a friendly. tap on the shoulder
Note: the reason for the King's siding with Churchill to fight on was due to the following: 3 days earlier to this , a cable was sent to the Canadian government asking if the King and the royal family could be evacuated to Ottawa. The answer back from the Canadian government was immediate: " Hard NO. He can't come here '!! So the King, sitting in the room with Churchill, knows that they have to fight on , and has become a Churchill supporter, something he wasn't until then !!
@@Jakob_DK In 1940, Canada was no longer part of the Kingdom (Wiki Statutes of Westminster) Canada was an independent country and a member of the British Commonwealth
This smells like BS, how can you deny the King of Canada entry yet allow a foreign monarch ( Netherlands ) to reside there. The King chose to stay and share the struggle and plight of his people.
@@glynth Nope , Not BS. First off, Quebec would not have tolerated it. Secondly, the Canadian government could not have someone in the country that would anyway undermine their authority with the people of Canada. Remember, Canada had only become independent 7 years earlier.
If only our Grandparents knew what they were fighting for back then to see what this ONCE GREAT Country had become now day's! they would have SURELY joint Hitler!!!!! R.I.P Olde England xxx
I love how Clementine Churchill picks him up, dusts him off and sets him up to deal with the greatest crisis facing the world.
yes, she is wonderful.
That's what a good and true wife does.
Few people today appreciate the greatness of King George VI.
The late Queen would have absolutely agreed with that sentiment.
@@kdmdloI think that I probably would have, too.
I can. He refused to leave London during the Blitz.
And that shows greatness?
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Is that all you can see?@@tarynwatson8971
“You have my support”- the 4 strongest words of King George in this movie
Nations who go down fighting, rise again. Truer words.
Not necessarily true. Carthage went down fighting, and never rose again. Gaul, specifically under Vercingetorix and the Arverni tribe leading them, never truly rose again after their defeat. Additionally, many peoples who violently resisted an occupier were then genocided and ceased to exist, while some collaborators, survived and thrived (i.e. the Kipchaks who submitted to Genghis Khan then ruled the Golden Horde later). The idea that Britain would have ceased to exist if it surrendered, isn't accurate. If it was nuked and genocided, THEN it would cease to exist. The British Empire is what would have ceased to exist, the colonial empire that the great Winston Churchill wanted to preserve. The irony there, is that the very same British Empire was betrayed by it's American allies who during the war, bullied Britain to give up world currency reserve status from the British Pound to the American Dollar (Petrodollar made from British protectorates like Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain, and even the Saudis were allies of the British in WW2, severing ties with the Germans 10 days after the invasion of Poland and exclusively selling oil to the British, which was critically important for the war effort and often unmentioned, the US then stole that relationship, from the Petropound to the Petrodollar), and the US even opposed Britain in the Suez Crisis, a final nail in the coffin of the British Empire (if you can't guarantee trade and transport thru the Suez, maintaining colonies in the Pacific becomes untenable).
@@TexanIndependence I vehemently disagree with your incorrect spelling of the word "its" ("...betrayed by it's [=it is?] American allies...").
The rest is excellent. 🙂
@@TexanIndependence
It isn't accurate to think that the UK would have ceased had it been invaded and vanquished by the 3rd Reich, you say.
Such a change of regime would have been of no consequence for the UK, you say.
You are far too optimistic. Given what they had in store for occupied Europe, how they dismantled France (and that had only been partially done, mind you), the UK would not have fared much better had it been invaded and conquered, and even moreso had the 3rd Reich won the war.
The UK simply could not afford to falter and fail.
King George saved the world in this moment. There were many other moments, but this was the darkest moment of the darkest hr of the darkest day, and he had the leadership, kindness, vision and guts to rouse Mr Churchill back to his magic level
The King here realized finally what Chuchill felt all along--you cannot reason with a tiger, and peace would be a mistake. There is no peace with Germany, not with that man leading. You cannot reason with a psychopath hell belt on dominating all that's in its view, they can only be stopped, by greater force.
They were both great men who each played a part in literally saving our world from an unimaginable darkness. God bless them
Surely a lesson for our times.
@@007ndc At huge cost though. The war finally destroyed the British Empire and reduced the United Kingdom to the rank of the lesser powers. A problem that it's still dealing with today.
@@ds1868 true but the British Empire had it's time in the sun and it was time for it to go away and have independence for all those colonies. Now the American empire.......
@@susansurles3776 both men with physical handicaps and foibles they both managed to overcome. Along with FDR in a wheelchair they saved the world from global fascism. We would do well to remember that
I love how they shot this scene with the one stark light bulb and zero fill lighting. It really served to equalize the two characters and showed the raw desparation of the moment historically.
Outstanding acting
You're reading too much into it. Also, your hair is ridiculous and borderline offensive. Just let it go man.
@@danceyrselfkleen At least he has hair! XD
Trust me, they have way more lightning than you realized.
It's the darkest hour, ofc
Although he was not my king, I feel his voice full of charisma and can strengthen your mind dramatically.
He's an actor..😁
@@garymaxwellian9085 is he really, i thought they dug up george vi for this film
Famously king george vi was a stutterer watch kings speech, his real name was albert but s new king can choose his name and it was decided albert was too germanic!
@@mattyboy4579 From what I've heard the main reason for him picking the name George (which he already had, only not as his first name) was that his great grandfather Prince Albert never could become king (he was married to Queen Victoria, but he wasn't in line for the throne) and that it was seen in the family to be inappropriate for anyone to ever become "Albert the first" since technically in the family he wouldn't be "the first", and so that name although "in the family" was avoided. Same thing with Edward VII who was christened "Albert Edward" but the same thing was done with him, no king Albert, but Edward instead.
@@mateuszmattias i didnt know that mate thats interesting
The resolve of these two men was the inflection point in history where the human race avoided a devastatingly grim fate. Imagine the world today if the Germans and Japanese had been allowed to build up their strength and conquests unchecked. Doesn’t bear thinking about.
Truly a man who was required to make bricks without straw , he did as he was required to do and balanced freedom against the darkness .
Hellof a comment.
A fantastic scene! The performance of those two actors are amazing.
A phenomenal scene. Dripping with good acting and good writing and good directing..
God sent some very great souls to earth in that century. They stood up to so much.
Two men wallowing at the bottom of despair. Great and subtle performances so rare these days.
As someone who struggles with his own "inner demons", the power of her words at the beginning of the clip cannot be under valued
I hear ya, brother.
I know what you mean
"Well if it isn't him it is a marvellous impersonation".
Knowing what sense of humour this couple both had, it would be so nice if that were an actual line. (Although it most likely is just artistic licence, but still.)
im 80, not a royalist im English by touch by feel by sole my very being is engraved on the George cross I love this scene integrity love of country
Nice!
the likeness to the king and the PM is incredible
This is an excellent film! Excellent!
He had such a good wife
I really enjoyed their relationship in this film, it was very sweet. They had wonderful humor together.
And she was HOT, too!
Excellent film. Excellent portrayal of a very difficult time in British history. The appeasement movement did have a lot of support, Britain was alone, and Churchill is only proven right in the hindsight of history. No one had a crystal ball at the time.
Truly, this man had a saint as a wife. If she wholeheartedly supports you like so, gentlemen... you have done unbelievably well.
I don't think I would want to be married to Mrs Churchill. Notwithstanding the kind words
Throughout human history, I can count, on one hand, the number of kings that were both decent and inspirational. Bertie was one of them.
I wasn't born then. My father was in WWII. The King had support of the Commonwealth Nations.
But there was no Commonwealth of Nations back then. The Commonwealth wasn't established until 1949. Britain was still an empire at the time of WW2.
Ok. Thank you for the correction.
@@akiramasashi9317 Why are you being a dickhead? You know he was referring to the empire.
@@stephenflanagan8518 Stand fast there. The Commonwealth was established in 1926, when it was known as the British Commonwealth of Nations. In 1949 it became the Commonwealth of Nations and is so today. The change of name had no structural significance, other than that being a republic was no barrier to membership.
@@nicktecky55 My father was in the Merchant Navy (Canadian) during WW2. His passport from that time indicated he was born in Canada, but was still considered a British subject.
I love this scene… without the resolve of a few leaders, and the majority of the brave English people, buying time for my people (US) to find our resolve (with a not so subtle nudge from the Japanese), things may have come too late…
This is a great scene!
The Prime minister of England and the King of England sit down for a little chat. Both are horribly antisocial in their own particularities, but somehow come to the same predilection. "We must join together you and and I to defeat this monstrosity." It's a fantastic scene, and I do not doubt it was shot this way for some obtuse reason.
Stop the England stuff, they were the King and the Prime Minister of the UNITED KINGDOM (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland), stop cutting those 3 other nations by saying England...
King George had served in the military, and Churchill had fought in war before as well. So George would be thr closest ally that could relate to what Churchill was going thru in this time.
magic, pure magic
The memory of the Somme and Paschendale were fresh in the memory of the British people and their aversion to war was quite understandable no one knew that WW2 would be a war of fire and manuver. Everyone dreaded a nightmare in trenches
Churchill got G.B. through the war and as soon as WWII was over, the Brits to show their gratitude, turned him out of office. Sad.
Wartime Consilgiére?🤷♂️
Maybe we rise only for that moment when we are most needed. FDR, Churchill, Eisenhower, Washington, Elizabeth, Lincoln.
Churchill was no leader for a collapsed economy.
I despise the Labour party as much as any man with red blood in his veins, but Churchill was a wartime leader and the country then was tired of war. With hindsight, we can say that Labour should never be elevated to office, but at the time you cannot blame the public for wanting something different.
@@Alvan81 Ahh, Fredo........Fredo. He neva shoulda goned against da Family.
@@jamesg9468 Labour is the worst possible choice, until you look at the alternative the dunces and putzes chose in its stead.
Gary Oldmans performance in this film may be the best ever. You just don’t see him at all, of course prosthetics are phenomenal as well
Pro tip: Might mention which film it is taken from (the Darkest Hour).
It's listed right under the video description. Movie Darkest Hour
@@TileGuyJesse Still nothing in or under the video description on my page, at least.
Sir Winston Churchill is a Titan of the Human Race.
We'll just look past his genocides in africa i guess.
@@freebird6591 "Every man ever had a statue made of him has been one kind of son of a bitch or another" - Malcom Reynolds
This is a feel goody bio-flick. A lot of the scenes didnt even happen, much less happen in the way depicted. Just like The Kings Speech. The point is not to be an absolute faithful representation of events, that would be boring as shit and also.....lets face it, people are assholes, if you saw them in their most candid states every idol you hold dear would loose their shine real quick. The point is to tell a story in the spirit of the times to shed light on a specific figure or point in history, and you are welcome to further research the reality of it on your own (I mean, we live in the era of star trek data pads.....you can look up more than just cat videos and AI generated pseudo-fact shorts.....and I encourage everyone to do so....) Spoiler: There are no saints. Even Hitler thought he was right, had worries, doubts, triumphs.... Oh, and since we're poopooing history, reality check: one of the largest exporters of africans to the slave markets was african. And female. So....exactly how far do you want to go down this path? Thats the truth of the human experience that are tinted in shades of rose, and glorified to easy digestion on the screen. Deal with it ;p
Courage like this is certainly a thing of the past, I believe.
But may be a thing of the future. Look for courage in the people you vote for. Look for those with the courage to disagree with the majority. Most politicians today are cowards unfortunately.
@@hmspain52 well said, with the annoying caveat that disagreement by itself doesn’t amount to courage.
You certainly sound lacking
No...no...it's not. Look around you and you'll see it every day. You just have to recognize and acknowledge it.
@@64MDW With the cost of living crises all around I would say it's back in spades.
WW2 Took some of the greatest men that the world had ever known to defeat Hitler, Mussolini, and Hirohito.
Hirohito was only nominally in power. Most decisions were made by the high command of the imperial army who later even oficially took over the government.
Showa Tenno for the nost part was only a figure head.
The entire lead up into the war (invading Manchuria, Marco Polo bridge…) was instigated by the imperial army without orders from the Emperor
Or rather a lack of fuel
mr prime minister, what are you waiting for? DEPLOY THE GARRISON
Great moment
Lovely scene
I truly believe that Winston Churchill was the single most important person of the twentieth century.
The 1 then 2 lights comment someone else made was spot on
We know that King George never expected to be king, was quite shy, and had quite a, stammer. But did the king _really_ visit Churchill privately? True or not, this scene (and the PM jumping on the Tube) make for good drama.
It's nice to see Norman Stansfield doing some good for a change.
Was this by a prescient camera operator or is it from a movie ?
Alcoholic, sarcastic, caustic and irascible at times yet this very flawed man probably helped save civilization. He was dead wrong on both Ireland and India as well as Gallipoli knowingly put munitions on the Lusitania complex great Man I admire him greatly he is the only man alive that save Britain in that time
saved civilisation from what and how
You poor republic's, not to have sovereign who can "advise" your leader GSTK!
Amazingly, Churchill is played by the same actor who is Sirius Black in the Harry Potter series...😳
and he was Also Jean-Baptise Emmanuel Zorg in The Fifth Element :O
He was Dracula in Bram Stokers Dracula. Oldman is a master of his art.
And then US Pres. Harry S. Truman in the film Oppenheimer
And he was Commissioner Gordon in Batman :D
And I no longer scare you...?
beat the buggers
From which film is this?
Pax Britanica.
Sacrifice no iSick force and victory
Huh?
This is a beautiful scene.
George IV might have been the greatest king Britain ever had.
History repeats itself - Zelensky faces the same evil
Please do not compare that joker to Churchill. Zelenskiyy is a CIA puppet at best.
Zelensky is the evil
It is Ah-dolf hitler, not Ay-dolf hitler. We aren't americans
Halifax was almost as big a traitor as Edward was. This is a wonderful film. It shows the strengths and flaws of the characters. It is so sad we do not have leaders who have courage, ethics and honesty as they did then. Our world is poised on a cusp of complete annihilation due to the fascist once again and there really is no one to lead us in any country.
Why are they meeting in such a crappy room?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blitz
you can reason with a tiger. It has been done. educate yourself, never stop, its what we are here for. not ment as an insult. but as a friendly. tap on the shoulder
Note: the reason for the King's siding with Churchill to fight on was due to the following: 3 days earlier to this , a cable was sent to the Canadian government asking if the King and the royal family could be evacuated to Ottawa. The answer back from the Canadian government was immediate: " Hard NO. He can't come here '!! So the King, sitting in the room with Churchill, knows that they have to fight on , and has become a Churchill supporter, something he wasn't until then !!
Amazing I must look it up. The King not allowed in part of the kingdom.
@@Jakob_DK In 1940, Canada was no longer part of the Kingdom (Wiki Statutes of Westminster) Canada was an independent country and a member of the British Commonwealth
@@JMac-fj1rg king charles is head of state in Canada now.
This smells like BS, how can you deny the King of Canada entry yet allow a foreign monarch ( Netherlands ) to reside there. The King chose to stay and share the struggle and plight of his people.
@@glynth Nope , Not BS. First off, Quebec would not have tolerated it. Secondly, the Canadian government could not have someone in the country that would anyway undermine their authority with the people of Canada. Remember, Canada had only become independent 7 years earlier.
If only our Grandparents knew what they were fighting for back then to see what this ONCE GREAT Country had become now day's! they would have SURELY joint Hitler!!!!! R.I.P Olde England xxx
A traitor and a usurper.
😅😅😅 which king 😂😂😂😂???
George the 6th.
There was king edward before king george vi
Not during this period, his older brother abdicated before @@drsolo7
This is not Churchill.
The King saying "Ehdolf Hitler??" Sling this garbage in the bin!
You mean the king that famously had a speech impediment?
Just pronouncing the ‘A’ as ‘A’.
The lengthened A is a mark of the upper class pronunciation. Plus the fact the King had a speech impediment. The portrayal here is accurate.
Watch the King's Speech another great film.
A lot of people say it like that.
This is why I hate Britain and Hollywood... Tell the truth please :)
Can you please explain what the truth is as I'd like to know.
Suck it up Des 👍
I think it’s mainly Hollywood that has the agenda
Sounds like copeum
Exactly what is the truth?