So, who's Coloured?
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- This documentary explores the complex race dynamics of the Coloured community of Cape Town. It is the personal experience of a young Coloured woman with questions about her race and the socio-political context in which it exists.
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I am a modern South African and do not see myself as coloured. Coloured is an Apartheid term which I totally reject. We are all Africans.
Mark Appollis Well said.
@Forward To The Past There is though so wena
Mark Appollis couldn’t agree with you more.. I reject the term as well..
Respect
@Wolf please dont lie. My grandfather a near wit man stayed and married a black woman and they stayed in the township and no problems whatsoever. Many races can go stay in a black township today and they will be just fine as other folks. We are fine. We studied there and became doctors and professors in the black townships you look down on.
Coloured is not just used in SA but also used in Zimbabwe and Zambia
Funny story. My Husband is Xhosa and I'm colored (don't consider myself as such), we did the ANCESTORY DNA TEST and his came out 98% Khoi-San from Southern Africa and mine is 62% Southern Africa. I hear my denialist colored mense saying they are the rightful owners of South Africa and all other Blacks must leave 😂😂😂😂 because a colonizer told my people these lies because they know we are incapable of thinking for ourselves, doing for ourselves that is why they are so proud of this term "colored" because they are ashamed of their African roots and desperate to be associated with whites.
Sara Baartman those Colourd should know who she is in South Africa✨✨✨✨✨
Girl you made my day did also my DNA I'm xhosa I'm 88 percent Koisan
This is also in Zimbabwe. Coloured people tend to live together in the same areas and will get upset if they are called black. I learned quickly in England not to say it because people here think it is derogatory. I think it is a cool thing as it gives a sense of identity and to hell with whatever other people think.
I am an African American woman who is light-skinned by way of the racial mixture in my family. Many of the women and men in this video who identify themselves as "coloured" could easily pass as members of my family. In fact, within my family, some of us are even lighter. I, however, have never and will never identify as anything but a Black woman regardless of my skin color; I'm proud of who I am as a descendant of African people. The coloured term was, if I'm correct, a title that was developed in the apartheid era and was used to fragment the Black people of South Africa en masse as lighter-skinned Blacks were elevated in status to darker-skinned South Africans--essentially this all worked to establish a racial hierarchy in that country. It seems to me that Black people who cling to this coloured term are really holding on to what remains of colorism (or color bias) in that community and its associated privileges in comparison to the social status of darker-skinned Blacks.
In sa lightskin people are coloured in the USA u have the one drop rule it all depends on where u live
Wow very well said.
This could not be said any other way nor better. Nwad, you have not wasted a word or letter. It has been awhile since I have read something so concise and compactly potent. You are beautiful.
Coloureds come in all shades because we are mixed and so are born in all shades. But what really makes you coloured is the culture and hundreds of years of coloureds only mixing with coloureds..
@@careyqueen3606 You said it perfectly! Thanks you my African sister!
I as a coloured embrace all that I am from my African to European to Asian ancestry!
being coloured is not about race but culture.. a black person will say they are zulu or xhosa or venda or stwana they refer to their culture so don't judge the coloured people if they are proud of who they are. ..
To certain extent I agree with you but Xhosa Zulu and vends are not just cultures but ethnicities
These people are simply confused set of people. They are totally contending with and suffering from identity crisis.
I think the people who are sadly confused are the blacks of South Africa who are in the process of abandoning their language and culture.
Don't know why people get mad when people say that they are coloured... You have to take note that in S.A when you fill in forms especially for work they ask you if your black, coloured, white or Indian so don't blame us blame the government who still uses the term coloured because we are not classified as black
it's also used here in Zimbabwe
I love the closing line of this documentary. Thank you.
The term is also used commonly in Zimbabwe and Zambia, to denote the children of many (mainly) English travelers relating with many people from various local tribes. The"Rainbow" or "Colour" phenomena is global.
Coloured is also a term used in Zimbabwe to classify mixed race... There are millions of them in Zimbabwe..... Like me.... Though at times I find the term a bit offensive as I have no real rights per se.... But I am also equally African
Why not just be a human being instead of being a category? The coloured category was invented by white racists hundreds of years ago. Why do you want to go along with their racist invention? Everywhere else coloured people are called mixed race or biracial.
lol so your solution is to just call them something else? It’ll eventually still have the same connotation
Khoisans are not coloured they are africans.
And what are coloreds then?
@A Bradey it means being purely of African descendant
@@joviescreenjoa347 cape Malaysian
Ek is nie mixed , ek is coloured
ek is black
Lol
We are proud to be Coloureds!!
The brown capetonian people are beautiful people. They are unique in their own way.
I celebrate the Coloured communitywho celebrate their heritage and their being. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging all that you are. Embrace your identity. Some "Black people" like to exploit the Coloured community for their own purposes.
Coloreds are in Namibia too
Well done team! Good to see you back!
Hi Thanks Bp. It took a lot of hard work from the whole team.
Just like Arabs can be people from Northern Africa, Europe and middle East. Coloured in SA does not only mean being Biracial. It includes Khoisans who shied away from their identity, the Arab settlers/slaves who wanted to belong and sadly black people who felt being "coloured" was better then being black cos a white man said so. All of these people back then chose to cut ties with their history and become coloureds, using the masters language (Afrikaans) to make them think their were superior to Blacks.
where'd you get this information? are they your ideas or? :/
Some good points, but the khoisans did not shy away from their identity, well at least most didn't. Under apartheid, Khoisans like the Griqua and Nama were still described as such. However, they were collectively ( the entire tribe) were grouped, (along with pure blooded Malays) under the lable coloured. So you get coloured who are extremely mixed, khoisans and Malays all calling themselves coloured.
There'a no tribe called Khoisan in South afrika the khoena aka khoe khoe n sans r different tribes n the nama n Korana those r the tribes the apartheid gvt name them Khoi San go to face book n search for khoi liberation u will no exactly what I'm talking bout
Cheri. What you have said is what is absolutely correct.
Coloured is not a race and will never be a race in Africa . An ethiopian ,a north sudanese a cap vertian and certain igbo people oin Nigeria can be as light as a khoisan or a mixed race south african however they see themselves as black .All over in Africa only in south africa and in Namibia certain ethnic groups like to identify themselves as coloured because of what apartheid system wanted it to be to establish white supremacy .
Nazreen, stop saying bullshit and travel more. Majority of Ethiopians(Omoros) are darker than Lebron James. Only SOME Amharas and Tigrays are mixed. Sudanese are the darkest people in Africa.
But i agree when you say that majority of black men nowadays are color struck and that cape verdeans are mixed. There was no life in Cape Verde before the Whites and Blacks. Unlike Ethiopia and Sudan.
THANK YOU!
These ppl will sell us out in an instant, thinking they are close to what is accepted as not black. They are so proud to be called colored thinking they are white ( as to say blacks are beneath them) bragging on the very ppl they are mixed with. Just look at their facial expressions as they gloriously gravitate towards this illusion of supremacy against none mixed ppl (blacks).
Many black people go to Europe and identify themselves has Germans ,Swedish, British, amongst many other nationalitys even have the passport to prove it
This whole documentary sounds like OJ Simpson saying "I'm not black,I'm OJ!!!"💀💀💀
Aren't Khoisan black people? if not what race are they? I am also getting the sense that khoisan are the only black people that the whites who first colonised the country slept with, to produce what is know now as the coloured people, someone please simply for me?
discovery discovery Even Khoisan people consider themselves to be black.
Pelo MK they consider themselves khoisan not black
Fadiel Benjamin They consider themselves khoisan(ethnicity) and black(race). Hope that's clear enough for you.
So what matters is what some colonialist anthropologist named and divided african race groups?
Funny story. My Husband is Xhosa and I'm colored (don't consider myself as such), we did the ANCESTORY DNA TEST and his came out 98% Khoi-San from Southern Africa and mine is 62% Southern Africa. I hear my denialist colored mense saying they are the rightful owners of South Africa and all other Blacks must leave 😂😂😂😂 because a colonizer told my people these lies because they know we are incapable of thinking for ourselves, doing for ourselves that is why they are so proud of this term "colored" because they are ashamed of their African roots and desperate to be associated with whites.
Very good really enjoyed watching
Some of the people interviewed in this video do look mix and they have every right to identify as colored. However, there are some people in this video who are clearly black yet they identify as colored. There is a part of me that understands where they are coming from. Imagine growing up and being socialized within a colored community (i.e. language, social and political outlook, food, etc). Why would a person, raised in a colored community, identify as black? On the other hand, why do black people feel offended when a colored person identifies as colored. I've known biracial people, who clearly look biracial, tell me that SOME black people seem offended when they identify as biracial (which is what they are).
And I quote " why would a person growing up ....exactly my point. How can a coloured living in south Africa call themselves black, how can they call them white
Thedarksecret1 Some coloured people looks more like blacks and some looks more like white,so being coloured doesn't mean you should be light....Look at Indian people,some looks more like white while some looks very very dark.Because we are mixed race some will look black,some white,some Indian etc,i hope you get my point...
I’ve been going through all these comments and it’s true most black peoples get so upset when coloureds are proud to be coloureds.
lmao the judgement has been passed eeh
Its also used in Zimbabwe
And even Namibia
Not true
@@victormedupepeters7248 yes it is have you been here you clown
Jimmy Hendrixx Drugs will kill you one day but don't worry you will be useful to fertilize the soil.
@@victormedupepeters7248 would you like to make sense? Where are you from have you ever been to Zimbabwe that you're so sure we don't use the word here? I'm coloured and from Zims so what are you arguing for??
that dude at 6:35 looks like tupac
I read that Malays and Tamil Indians were enslaved there. . I wouldn't be surprised if some of these people have that mixture with white. Few looked mixed with khoisan.
There are plenty, my grandmother is of Indian descent. During apartheid half indian half white people were also considered coloured (other), some still consider themselves coloured today.
+asas2jh just to add a point that hundreds of slaves were brought over in the 1600's to the Cape from the Dutch bases in what is today, India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Burma, these slaves ended being completely absorbed into the white and coloured population groups while the Indians brought by the English to the Natal Colony remained fairly pure as by that point interracial relationships were significantly more frowned upon than in the 1600s and also the groups that came over were larger and more homogeneous so were in most cases able to retain their culture. As for the Malay slaves from Indonesia, it is thought that only a very small group of them were muslim to begin with. Many of the slaves brought over would have still been practicing traditional beliefs. It was the work of the exiled imans in the Cape that converted many of these to the Islamic faith in the Cape in the early years
Yes Jan Van Riebeeck brought us coloureds hear on slaveships 1652. We come from East and West Africa; Asia and the Middle East. At the Capetown Slave lodge we had a picture of the slaveship ; chains and tools that was by our uncestors. We coloureds build the Cape Castle of Good Hope
Colored is not black it is (Mixed Race).
+Spirit World in South Afica "Coloured" is not Black, "Coloured" is not Mixed Race, "Coloured" is "Coloured".
+Cassius Morgan There is only one shade of black and that is dark brown.
Stop telling bullshit Spirit World, your kind created the misconception about blacks. Your kind basically created a definition for africans. Coloured are mixed race, i agree with that. But the rest of africa existed befored coloureds
Does Jacob Zuma looks like the Salva Kiir Mayardit? Is Jacob Zuma dark brown? Or are you going to tell me that Zuma is mixed too? LMAO so ignorant.
Not all look the same, for instance, the HIMBA people have softer hair than most blacks. Khoisans are lighter but the nappiest hair.
@@biracialawareness.7956 so light skin black people are coloureds?
It's so interesting how different Khoisan look from other Africans. They're basically a different race.
Khoisans do look different from other Africans, but don't assume that curly haired girl is a pure bred Khoisan. Lol, she probably has European and Malay blood as well.
On the facial look, i agree, Khoisans have chinese look and light skin. But the hair is way nappier.
wtf? You speaking alot of BS. Khoisans are not black now? You people are brainwashed!
They aren't a different race..
They are far from being khoisan this people,khoi and San are pure african don't confuse mixed Malay,indian and Dutch for my Kalahari tribe.
The Office for Race Classification has died, apartheid is over...stop referring to yourself as coloured. The Population Registration Act of 1950 required that each inhabitant of South Africa be classified and registered in accordance with his or her racial characteristics as part of the system of apartheid...apartheid is dead...the word coloured is dead.
This is the kind of confusion the post Apartheid regime had wanted to effect, and they r highly successful in achieving this evil goal of confusion , OMG Heaven help us.
Colored are referred by black old family members as Abashana. This means they are the sisters children's who was working for a white man who sometimes when he is drunk leave the Mrs and sleep with the maid until the maid get pregnant. The baby will be called umqwelane translated colored. Half black half white. We love them too much. They were accepted in the black community long time ago.
If it was only the case everywhere sister.. Lol. ❤️
Thats Trevor Noah's case lol not us So called coloureds in the cape...we've been brown before you bantus came here we never turner brown bcoz of white man and black woman hahaha sarah baartman is proof of that lmao black supremacy won't work with us lol but you are right but you are wrong if you think all of us so called coloureds were made like that...we were here before ur sister worked for the white man and got pregnant,our ancestors were here giving birth to us before you gave birth to the white man and brougt out the likes of Trevor Noah...we are not like Trevor half white ane half black as majority of blacks believe hahaha we come from BROWN parents with no black or white family members...
@@chaponate6805 its time you start speaking your native language or at least identify as one and stop confusing us, some of us almost thought the khoi khoi people were just a tale of the Kalahari
@@chaponate6805 bro you are white you can never be khoisan hahahaha.....
@@chaponate6805 there's a colored lady who's married to a Xhosa man she says they both did an ancestry DNA hers came out 62% southern Africa, her husband's came 98% khoi-san from Southern Africa and this is a black African man what are your thoughts on that Mr brown racist?
How about, they are just Africans, just Africans. If you are mixed half white and half black what are you, black or white? What colour is coloured?
If you have four coloured grandparents you're not mixed black and white, you're coloured.
@@frankie7529 what nonsense is that?
@@sunkem6417 a lot of coloured people are not from mixed marriages. Most people in the coloured community have four coloured grandparents. The mixing began 370 years ago.
@@frankie7529 That's a bit idiotic. The very word "Coloured" exists to refer to people of "mixed race." So how can it not be "a mixed marriage"? The people are mixed to begin with. In most interracial marriages today the kids will be biologically mixed, but not culturally "Coloured."
no such thing as'' coloured '' you people are black you are my skin tone and darker so you are black like me if you say you have other races in your family that doesn't mean anything . my grandmother is native american my dad's grandfather is Asian but I'm 100% black . I have cousins that have a white parent and they are 100% black . lmaoo you are the color of a average black American that's not mixed # facts
+anthony briggs If you identify as black and you have mixed ancestry then that is your prerogative. Just so you know nobody here cares about you or your alleged mixed ancestry, so please go away
Fadiel Benjamin that's my point it doesn't matter because I'm black . and those people aren't any different their black also so cut the multi racial bull crap out . because everything we touch is ours
+anthony briggs You make no sense and the one drop rule does not apply here. So, we have to call ourselves black, just because we might have some African ancestry. There are plenty of coloureds that have no African ancestry.
+Fadiel “Fadhi” Benjamin If they have no African ancestry, then they are a mixture of two OTHER races then. SO NO they are not black...LOL... I'm here all week.
+anthony briggs LOL..Ya killing me, bruh. I bet you it's cats like these that sold out our peeps in the first place. ...WOW. Imagine that, the middle passage was started by some Arabs, not even Africans.....That would make a lot of sense...
It's funny how she says people are lighter on a black and white copy
why they look different to each other like blacks some are light some are dark the broblem here I guess is the word black the fact we are africans
Yo….why do we have to live under these racial labels still; that were devised by the apartheid government?
.... take the labels away and people will still not accept "coloured" people. In the U.S. there is soooooooooo much pain in the black community around the various hues we are born with. It comes out in our actions and how we treat each other (talk is cheap).
So true Janita. I experienced it first hand. To us Jamaicans, we mixed race are called "browns" or "brownins"
bleaching is rampant in Jamaica. To get the "brownin" look. It's so stupid. Black is pure. People should embrace it. I do... Mixed or not. I do say I'm mixed when ppl ask, but I got the black experience in the USA. Mostly.
+nonhlanhla precious Radebe should point out that in my research I have seen people referred to as coloured on marriage certificates from that 1800s that long predate any form of apartheid label
Humanity - All descendant from AFRIKAN and we AFRIKANS/ HUMANS needs to READ more information written by other AFRIKANS and write our own stories. EVERYONE IS MIXED, EVERYONE IS HUMAN ...
This is not true in Canada there is the Maitee and they are mixed race in Canada, white and native
We as a black people globally have to many enemies. Leave that apartide classification foolishness alone. At the end of the day we are all black and will be treated globally the same from racist. I have a light complexion and will be treated by a racist the same as someone that is dark skin.
That chick with the curly hair is darn gorgeous.
Is the lecturer black or coloured? In South America they have names for various percentages of African blood. So, would a half coloured, half black child be black, coloured or something else in South Africa?
The lecturer is obviously black. For the millionth time, being coloured is a culture, mostly. Meaning coloureds are either Muslim or Christian. Our food are mostly influenced by Asian, European and to a lesser extent African cuisine. Ok, now that that is out of the way, genetically you get Khoisan coloureds ( natives), Malays and mixed race coloureds. Most coloureds are mixed race in various amounts. So being coloured does not mean that you are mixed race or mixed with black, etc.
Also most biracials, like Trevor Noah or Gugu Mbatha Raw aren't coloured. So a half black half coloured child is not coloured. Simply because African culture is different to coloured culture and the child will look purely black.
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Carey Queen im Zambian im refered to as coloured always does all the mixed people here are called coloureds and had one popular town within Zambia just for coloured quaters fact, i was never called mixed until i came to ireland.
what the lady said by 2:27 is the damn truth
That's because culturally they will fit into the European Culture we Black Americans grew up in. My friend who is SA Zulu seems culturally different from my friends who are Coloured SA. I can better identify culturally with the coloureds as an American. I love my African Sisters/Brothers but there is cultural differences because they can identify with a tribe. Black Americans do not know anything about this heritage
What is strange is that if many of these people moved to America they would become Black. I have colored friends who told me if I lived n South Africa I would be considered Colored?? I think this is a matter of culture.
Yeah other countries don't follow the one drop rule like they do here! Only the U.S. considers mixed-race people as black, but everywhere else we'll be considered exactly what we are!
+Elijah McCoy It's not only America. It's anywhere where black people are a minority. Judging by pictures I've seen of Coloureds, many of them would probably be considered black in Brazil. You can be black and mixed-race at the same time. If your phenotype is mostly African, you're black. Coloureds look mostly black to me.
+Rae Neumann Ok but than that name colored has got to go and I mean go far, far away. Because its just fucked up !!!
Thats true regarding mixed individuals in those countries, but it means nothing and gives them no clout, with those labels, and as a matter of fact some of the coloreds feel left out since they got rid of apartheid in SA. In America if they can't label you, you become invisible to the people in power, and have no voice in the system, a good example would be Brazil, over recent years they have realized they have been left out of the power structure. That's why you hear more about Afro-Brazil now, which comprises the light and the dark Brazilians.
+The Misandrist Misanthrope that really doesn't say much. I mean Rachel Dolezal was black for most of her adult life in America.
Coloured is a term used by most African to people who are half black half white. What we know its our history and culture too and biology.
I am a Coloured.
Still??? I hear the word coloured and it makes my ears bleed. I hate that word and I don't have time for this coloured nonsense. It's like 500 years behind the times.
i am coloured
Lucky are the Nigerians, Ghanians and other African countries who don't have all this other race, they have no problems we facing in South Africa today. They are happy people.
Whenever you have mixed and foreign people in African lands, these problem happen.
A lost people who don't know who they are if you ask them what coloured means they don't know what a shame
Thanks Aasia. :-)
So being black is a bad thing?
Iq IMB Exactly! That's the feeling you get, even in London, miles away from SA, they seem shocked and disgusted when blacks mingle easily with whites. They exhibit this attitude that the non-black ancestry is some sort of saving grace from the plight of bantuness and Khoisan to some extent,although the latter are lighter. It's as crazy as it looks, shadism gone mad! I know culture plays into this but very little. It's color! Being white is the "Pearly gates" to heaven.
Then they get butthurt bcz whitey doesn't like them either! Confused bunch!
So just because we don't call our selves black, we hate black.
They would be considered black in the states
And America is supposed to be the standard of how the world sees race? Everyone knows the US is racist and classifies race on appearance alone, if black Americans went to Africa they wouldn't be seen as native black people.
I'm colored but don't identify by race. I don't believe in it. It's a waste of time.
Lol, I wasn't considered black in the states. People only called me black once I told them I was South African and mixed. No one looked at me and immediately thought "black'.It wasn't even white people that considered me black but black Americans.
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True, but most/ all countries have shameful pasts, its something that will never be wiped away. I guess we just have to accept them with both the good and the bad. Believe me South Africa's far from perfect, but Cape Town makes it all worth it.
I would like to visit someday. Right now I'm reading Mandela's autobiography. I'm happy he was able to turn things around there. It makes me want to weep sometimes how terrible the world can be when power gets into the wrong hands. I can say the same for the small groups of people who hunt albinos or pygmies. I'll never understand it..... It makes holding onto my faith more challenging. It makes me want to change the world.
These people are lost.
And yes the coloureds would be called Black Americans, just like me
African has come to mean Bantu in Africa but what do people do who don't have a Bantu background. Not all tribes in Africa are Bantu so they tend to identify themselves in different ways. A Kenyan is not going to generally say they are black as everyone is generally black but will identify with their tribe.
This is the problem with using the word Africa to denote only one ethnic group.
And yes the Black Americans would be called coloured, just like me.
Dont try to erase the history of coloured people. White people likewise bantu knew they invaded coloured people inheritance. The ancestors of coloured people inhabited this country way long before other cultures.
No your ancestors were in Europe
They are beautiful looking people, they have European looking features. Highly intelligent people. They happy people, quite funny, but they are koisan descendants.
stupid it clearly shows the coloured they worship the Europeans
U are beautiful when u have European blood u are brainwashed bro
And the white people they don't love u at all u will never be white I know is the dream of all coloured to be white
@@williamkhumalo5325 nice African name you got there WILLIAM.
@@williamkhumalo5325 the dream of all coloured people if for the blacks to stop pushing us into the black bantu box lol william is mos n european name u must go back to europe u colonizer...you too blackwasher to begin with you like my other people some are whitewashed and some are blackwashed like you hahaha coloured people dreams got nothing to do with white people you blacks want to be white so bad bleaching your skin just to be a yellow bone like us and then you say we want to be white lmao many black people wished they were white...
Why are so many south African women lesbians
I have a few colored friends from SA who live in America and they refer to themselves as Black. They told me in SA I would be colored. My Zulu friend said the same. I am an American Black
did you know, you might Indonesian descent
Most of these people are lost in africa , for your good you should i don't identity as black because you are in africa.
than we just wont come there. how easy.
😉🤣🤷🏾♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏼♀️🤷🏻♀️>color me crazy 😜
I love the "decent" coloured people of South Africa, not the hateful ones, drunks and druggies. They make me laugh.
Black is beautiful, Jesus is black
@I don’t care anymore Revelations 1:14
He was black.
They're still black people to me, just light skinned.
coloured? ...Im half white/ half amerindian
In Latin America that mix is revered to as Mestizo.
Black and Coloured are misnomers
True. White and Indian are also misnomers. But we need nouns.
What a confused nation
How can you be black but coloured????? Just go to the USA to find out if you're black or coloured???
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I like the Coloured people of South Africa
This place is a joke
dank die boere volk
YOU LOOK LIKE SOME LADY IN SOWETO
Reall? A lady in Soweto has light skin and straight hair? 🤔
@@fadielbenjamin159 yup there ard lots of ladies in Soweto who fit your discription
@@enmn6001 Interesting. But most people in Soweto don't ha e that look.
@@fadielbenjamin159 your right most but some do
Coloured are a mixture of White and Indian only.
These people are lost.