The guy seems to be the kind of person to play Read Dead Redemption 2, Witcher 3, Skyrim, Elden Ring and complain that he's tired from open world games lmao. Open World games are only tiresome if you yourself only play the games in the genre.
@@k-BlazeWuthringwaves30 Dailies in zzz 2mins in zzz Wuwa is arround 8-15mins Also i play wuwa and zzz but zzz is just higher quality in everything Even has music video like wuwa coould never
@@yaemiko9969then your bad look at gabimaru, thats not even good stats for jinhsi and he still manage do the same time as valk in zzz with do right the same thing as him nah nah nah, it just you if you had optimal build on your dps, you can even do more faster daily just say you hate open world gacha games
People are very disingenuous about their daily times. I keep hearing people “complain” about it so much that after I watched your video I went and timed how long it took me to do my dailies because I was genuinely curious as I’ve done mine everyday since the game released (Missed maybe 2-3 days). It took a whopping 4 minutes and 6 seconds. If you count loading into the game, you can add 30 seconds to that. I usually play PC but I’m not always home so this was also done on a mobile device. If it takes you 30 minutes to do you dailies that means you’re doing something VERY wrong. Or you’re just bad at games in general idk.
those cc should really just simplify it to I like ZZZ better and not bash WuWa with misinformation, but nah gotta get that internet hate clout to boost views
Let's be honest. He saw iyo video an said let me copy your homework. Go to his channel..he has NO WuWa videos at all on his channel but apparently think people care about him liking zzz more 😒 You don't even have to spend energy lol. Most of the dailies can be completed in one tacet. Daily quest is defeat TD...you dodge, kill an absorb in that same quest. An pick up 3 items an you're done lol. Dude is definitely trolling an farming drama.
I'm done with my dailies in WuWa without even trying lol. I think this is a healthy way to play gacha games because you don't need to force yourself to do dailies. I guess he's just biased on ZZZ because he likes the game. Nothing wrong with that though. But he shouldn't discredit WuWa just because he doesn't like its dailies. I for one love doing what I'm doing with that game and when I checked my guidebook it's already 100% lol. I watched that Hex's video reaction. Why are they keep comparing ZZZ to a fighting game? Because that is definitely not a FG lol.
This was a drama? Lmao all hex did was criticise him for trying to explain his reason for liking ZZZ better while fighting a boss since he didn't seem to be able to articulate what he wanted to say. Oh and she just told him to say he just doesn't like open world gachas
Dailies in Wuwa are, consume your energy and when your already did 90% of your task, and in the end is like cooking and done, literally i just speed run in mobile.
If you did 4 runs in tacet fields you can colllect 60 daily points and just do your daily quest then you're done. Basically can be finished for 6 minutes at most.
Why even complain for a game that takes ample of your time. The moment you clicked download and install it means you've already dedicated yourself to play the game and invest time lol
I like genshin I like wuwa I don't like Zzz However to say wuwa takes longer to do dailies is the most hilarious thing Tacet fields take the longest time because of spawns and waves, also they're ineffecient for stamina, and if it's anything to go by from Pgr they'll be less needed because events will eventually give more exp gains if they ever decide to add farming events But that's the only thing you'd use them for, as it stands genshin took me 15 minutes to do dailies or usually 20 depending on the quest (ESCORTS) Now it takes less if you go find chests and stuff but it's still a commitment with artifacts Zzz is more if you account the CONSTANT LOADING Wuwa takes me 8 minutes or less depending on what I'm doing, it's more efficient to do forgery challenges because you constantly need all those mats and bosses take a couple minutes because Respawn timer However the little quests you have like picking mint and absorbing echoes takes no time to do as you can do it passively while doing dailies, especially if you have a mission to clear mobs, unfortunately ore doesn't count yet for collecting However you have easier tasks like crafting and cooking and using supplies If you combine all of these together it's piss easy to clear all of it if we had the multi use system from Pgr in wuwa to burn stamina in domains faster it'd be nice, I hope more people suggest it because genshins way of handling farming is GARBAGE which is what wuwa borrows for it here sadly Anyway if you don't have like 20 minutes maximum to load up your gacha game then don't play games in general these are designed to take the least so you can still feel like you're progressing I can't get much progress in half an hour in other games like gachas
He must have gotten that exclusive program from Hoyo but thats besides the point I went to his channel and i didn't see any Wuwu videos before this so its confusing unless he really is just being petty with his vids which i wouldn't be surprised also hes fighting electric res enemies with electric team lol 😂
He is just farming views from both sides lately his zzz content is losing viewership fast. I also watched him for ZZZ but it's not that his content is unique anyway.
Pretty sure Valk got that Hoyo contract signed already, smells like a hoyoshill indeed under the signed document is the requirement is to bash the competition by spreading misinformation
Don't bother dude, he's definitely rage baiting... Though, of all the bosses he choose to fight in the video, he decided to fight a thunder boss using 2 thunder resonators 😂 At this point, I'll not be suprised if it really takes 30 mins for him to do dailies... which is just sad tbh.
Maybe he just wanted to do it, i fight fire resistant enemies with soldier 11 in ZZZ it just happens, you ain’t gotta minmax to do sum ass dailies, but i do agree that 20m to do dailies is wild thats just not true UNLESS you don’t want to do the daily quest (it happens, i hate those quests i literally did a whole ass world quest just to avoid daily quest, it is what it is)
@@NFYT The thing is, you can choose any world boss other than thundering mephis to speed up the dailies requirements, UNLESS you're doing it for the challenge or for the lolz then I have nothing to say. It's just bizarre saying it takes a long time to finish dailies when he's doing this shenanigan.
@@TheDestinies so i saw the video its definitely not as bad as this video made it, its not something disingenuous he just randomly chose a couple bosses you can even see that in the map he chooses a boss then TP, its not something planned or a scheme to show how wuwa dailies are wayy too long, i mean if you see the video the whole purpose of that video is showing that he was able to do wuwa and ZZZ dailies BEFORE drama reactions ended, which is WILDD bc it was a 5 minute video saying his opinion, and he himself also said that he exaggerated the dailies a bit and its fair he was just saying his opinion its not something objective most of the time, definitely overblown, and thats the only thing you can say about the video, that he said dailies are long, other than that, to me its a pass, just an opinion video of why he thinks a game is better than the other. HOWEVER i also want to say most people lost the main point, what he wanted to say is that ZZZ dailies take less time which is just the truth, he wasn’t necessarily saying that WuWa dailies took WAYY too much time but that in his opinion if he wants to play casual ZZZ allowed him to do it better (which is fair i mean wuwa had me minmaxing dailies LMAO, i was planning not to do stuff so that the energy did the dailies and level up weapon and different small weird stuff like just let me do the dailies by spending resin like genshin)
@@yaemiko9969 > music video > that one EP by amalee herself > smooth and polished > fixed all performance issues and achieved the same with 20 less gb while being an open world > saying your opinion > proven wrong by multiple ccs 🤡🤡🤡
Funny, coming from game that only have 4 set of recycled animations during story outside of cinematic scenes. Also before they are saying shit about other devs, they should ask their dear hoyoverse to fix Diluc, Itto and Albedo first. Their 3D models are atrocious.
@@dogedingo1535 it’s such a dumb topic I never thought I’d actually have to cover but the misinfo on wuwa to make it look worse gets on my nerves sometimes
Also Valkyrja's used teams aren't equal. He uses Shark girl in ZZZ, which is fastest (by dps and speed) character but in WuWa, he uses Calcharo, which is one of the slowest character for dailies.
There's just, so many reasons that I just don't want to type here about why Genshin is just, underwhelming if compared to Wuthering Waves when it comes to the combat difference... Of fucking course Wuthering Waves has an amazing combat compare to genshin. Oh and DON'T make me write an ESSAY on "why clearing a dailies in 30 minutes is a massive skill issue and why you should touch a mf GRASS outside your house" Seriously, Valk needed to learn to DIFFERENTIATE between fighting games and HACK N SLASH GAMES
Man i just wish you could've borrowed someone's acc in 💤 and did the dailies SLOW AF with the wrong squad members and builds and elements just to say OHH WHY DID U LIE VAL, IT TOOK ME AN HOUR AND A HALF Just to see him goes insane (wHaT dO yoU MeAn!! YoU disingenuous liar) 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Both sides are being petty imo. What he should've said is, he sick of open world and leave it alone. I know some people who say they quit Wuwa cause they don't wanna put time in another Genshin. Wuwa does feel like the devs played Genshin but said let's get rid of all this dumb crap. I play four gachas, Wuwa and ZZZ being two of them so I'll say this. Both dallies can be done reasonably quick, but ZZZ is slightly faster. ZZZ dallies can be done in less than 2 minutes since the things you can do are right next to each other and you don't have to use battery, Wuwa just take about 1 to 2 minutes longer depending on what you get and decide to do for the day. The dude is exaggerating about the 20 to 30 minutes for sure, but I don't think a video was needed. Both have pros and cons, so it just depends on what the player is looking for, which will determine whether they like one over the other, heck maybe even both. To clarify, I love Wuwa way more than ZZZ since I look forward to story content, characters and updates to illusive Realm the best mode btw. ZZZ Hollow Zone and dialogue annoys me so I skip everything to get to the gameplay and I refuse to spend since I know I'll drop it before Wuwa. I don't have a bias but it's weird to me how both are quick to call others shills for something silly like this.
because valk do that first a bit understand if valk make content or videos about wuwa before and ended up making that videos but what make he got so much hate because he never make any wuwa videos before and we need his opinions about wuwa then? answer is no, never and never let any cc make any videos shitting on wuwa when they're never make any related wuwa videos atleast lyo make wuwa videos before and wuwa videos more popular than his zzz videos, valk? lol and he talk like he knew everything and then there is gabimaru giving some proof valk started this and deserve the hate even more than lyo
I'm not defending him just to be clear lol. He did bring the attention to himself with his title, but I don't understand the logic of you can't have opinions about a game if you never uploaded anything about it before? Either way I don't wanna go deep into this. It doesn't seem like something that needed more attention imo. Ignore the dude and play your games.
Zzz usually takes me around 4 minutes while wuwa takes me 5-8 minutes to complete dailies and spend stamina. I personally like zzz dailies more because the dailies missions are consistent and doesn’t change, taking less than a minute to complete. Sometimes you get bad rng and it makes wuwa’s dailies more annoying for example absorb an echo or pick up five materials or even completing a farming stage that you didn’t plan to do that day, but overall it is not as long as some make it out to be. My biggest gripe with zzz is with their weekly mission. Specifically completing the 5 hollow zero stages, each run taking on average 20 minutes. I don’t mind hollow zero maybe once or twice a week, but doing 5 runs is excessive and a chore to do. If you are excluding story and events and only counting dailies and weeklies, zzz definitely takes more time than wuwa, well at least for me.
There's a video I came acroos where the guy tried boss fighting with healers and dendro traveller JUST to make it look like the Wanderer boss is super hard to kill. He was only attacking with Nilou. I laughed so hard at that. All bosses in genshin are literally almost one shot kill It was a comparison video of PGR, Wuwa, ZZZ and genshin. ZZZ bosses are lazy but tankier so takes a while.
@@thornszk Throughout the whole fight he used dendro 2/3 times and the fight was so god damn long, unless you want to tell me the reactions last 1 min long.. Nilou was at lvl 20 if I am not wrong The damage was so freaking low even Qiqi can do more than that herself alone
CCs are going against Kuro for some reason especially Tectone's minions. At first, they were giving WuWa a fair shake and were playing it but something changed. They stopped streaming it as if a deal didn't go through. This happened very suddenly and it was so obvious. Tectone and his friends are as follows: 1. Tectone. 2. LolShinya. 3. Mr. Pokke 4. HexJuice 5. VxVfiction and his former friend Mtashed.
Id say let them be, maybe they didn't like the game that much and their just in it for the fame and bag? after all, they are just a CC and should not be taken seriously
I dunno what he was grinding by defeating those mobs, but he should've compared Disk Grinding in ZZZ with Tacet Fields in WuWa like you said because guess what, they're both *gears* farming gears in ZZZ and then go defeating overworld bosses in WuWa is just logical fallacy/ false equivalent. Sure, he could be doing this for trolling purposes, but what is he gaining from this?
I will say this to anyone and everyone, regardless of what zzz’s gameplay is like, and they may or may not be more generous than Genshin and HSR combined, you are not about to catch me on there for the sole purpose of the same copy paste hoyo artifact system they got in all three games. It ain’t no different from what I’ve researched. I am not stupid enough to put myself through that experience more than once just because it got a hoyo title on it and it’s mainstream. P.s. The hoyo bias is all too real ain’t it
Credit farming is so Important tho in wuwa, from what I saw in a whale account 5-6m credit isn’t enough to triple 10 the middle right left talent and level 6 at Na and Intro, but everything else I’m positive
Lmao, its his own fault by making bad takes & not wanting to own up to it. Dude should just say i like zzz more & not make up nonsense about wuwa then nobody would have anything 2 say.
Alright, speaking on the point of ZZZ daily time to complete vs Wuthering still isn't even fair. Cause you can open the shop, scratch a ticket, and drink a latte at the shop - less than 2 mins and dailies are done. That's even being generous to give you time to figure out what latte you want for the day.
Ive noticed, you dont use the only important feature of OGX, the mods, so swap back to chrome. Its faster and actually its lighter on mem because it doesnt have bloat like OGX
I keep telling people its trash, but they refuse to listen. And if they want those waifus so bad from that game --- modded koikatsu exists :P Also brb, dowloading mulani mod now that its out to have some fun with her tonight.
@@Bullminator imagine going around telling people the game they like is bad your legit sad built like a discord mod it’s a good game threats why it made more than wuwa did in its first week than wuwa did 50 million so stop crying especially when you haven’t played the game
@@Bullminator you legit upset people enjoy a game zzz is a good game your allowed to not like it but to go around and tell other people is cringe and people refuse to listen because they think your a m0ng
Today it took me 30 min of wuwa ---- because i hit rank 40 and got way to many waveplates (oh also i refuse to upgrade my world higher than this, its already anoying).
You Need world Higher for Better rewards with waveplates...After throw all your waveplates you can decrease to 1 lvl(or restore the max lvl) with 12 hours cooldown
@@dmnsn392 This is what i have been doing :P Problem is no money XD Waiting for some new event to give me material boost. I get echo upgrade materials from bosses anyway. Its slow, but its steady. Second is that weekly boss materials are limited, so you need 2-4 weeks for single character anyway.
I like WuWa, but it's following Genshin footsteps closer than I would like. I still gonna give Kuro benefit of the doubt because they are staffing up to create more content for the game. I want them to add cool stuffs that differentiate WuWa from Genshin further like matchmade co-op missions or... imagine they adding freaking APCs or tanks to the game and let players drive around certain parts of the map and blow shit up. That would make driving a regular car in NTE look like a joke.
PGR having 3D dorm systems and out of box thing is MC first person game lmao U can even use Alpha move set as MC 🤣 Illusive Dream already example how creative kuro made game mode
Yeah. Wuwa just made me lose my 50/50 on hard pity thrice in a row. I don't have changli, ran out of Asterite and on low pity count. I will continue being a wuwa hater until they give me my Changli or when they let me win my first 50/50. So until then I am a wuwa hater
@@soloecalybs2500 same goes to them, they need to chill and mind their own business with zzz games even valkryja never make any videos relate to wuwa before THAT video
@@soloecalybs2500This started by them, people tired how Hoyoshills came to every new gacha game video and say their game better and this game won't last longer because not in top 10 revenue This already happen like 4 years lmao 🙃 And when they get attacked by some community who have a decent WK? Play Victim bro play victim
just tell valk to make wuwa related videos before posting about his opinion videos about wuwa he's CC and he's know that don't say pL4y1nG 0fFStR34m kind of excuse, because thats his job as cc atleast lyo playing wuwa first and before, even had a lot of views from wuwa videos (one of wuwa video even reach 100-200k+ viewes lol), how about valk? lol
@jacketofficial7089 This is a dumb take. You don't have to play video games on stream or post videos about it before you release your opinion on it just cause you're a CC. With that logic, 90% of video game reviews shouldn't exist.
@@drakingp2119 but they're not reviewers, they're only CC not some ign sh*t he need to do that make wuwa videos first like lyo thats the reason he got blacklash from wuwa fandom
As someone who plays and likes both zzz and wuwa. When it comes to dailies wuwa is a disaster compared to HSR and ZZZ. I don’t even have to do anything in those games but wuwa you have to sit down and play it all out, they offer nothing for adults with busy daily lives . Sometimes I get stuck at 240/240 energy in wuwa because I work all day and Latin dance most days so I don’t have time to sit down and actually play out wuwa dailies. Wuwa is still a great game but it’s dailies take longer and more important than the length, you have to really sit down and play it all out. They don’t do any favors for adults with busy daily lives. Hoyo has set the bar for dailies. They respect our time and lives. Kuro either needs to simplify dailies or give us energy reserves. Also bro this video looks try hard af, playing on PC, show us how long it takes to do your dailies on mobile where most of us are doing our dailies for these games. Wuwa is a great game with trash daily system, no arguing that.
I play on, mobile and pc, the time taken is the exact same unless you have a shitty device, i will say hsr dailies are faster, but in practice its only 3-4 mins faster, the main reason why i feel that hsr dailies feel much faster is probably due to auto play and instant repeat on power spending, and also wuwa is getting reserve stamina system next update
TBF it's their first time respecting people's time with ZZZ and it's only on the dailies part.. and they're implementing an overflow system for waveplates in the near future of WW so good for us !
it takes 5 mins or less to do dailies on wuwa. it takes 5-6 mins to finish your waveplates on bosses, 8-10 mins on tacet fields, and 5-6 mins on forgery challenges. Reduce each by 1-2 minutes as there is always going to be a daily quest regarding those. It definitely respects your time as a student who has 11 subjects with a crap ton of assignments and a research project due in 2 months. (i play on mobile as well)
HSR is a turn based game, its got auto button nuff said. ZZZ daily is quick because no content lel lmao except the take picture of the cat angers me. Wuwa on a toilet break, everything done.
He’s just slow asf on both games to do dailies, do you know how much it took me to do my dailies on ZZZ? 40 seconds, and then each domain run if i do like 2 100s and 1 40 each one take me like 1 minute at most (20s on a 40 cost run), so it takes me like what, 3:20s to do the dailies on ZZZ, and thats on my HDD, if i swap ZZZ to my SSD like i do with wuwa it’d take less time, and if i swap wuwa to my HDD the game would stutter, have LONGGGG loading times and it’d take more to open (i am not joking, idk what game has with HDDs but it does NOT run well i had to swap wuwa to my SSD bc it was a very very bad experience on HDD, ZZZ runs fine on HDD except for y’know a bit longer loading screens but it doesn’t stutter). I think it depends, sometimes i do the dailies slow on ZZZ bc i have to plan what to farm, but the truth is no matter what you farm it’ll probably be faster on ZZZ simply because they give you the choice to spend from 20 to 100 on mats, bosses are way easier to beat in ZZZ it takes like no time if you want to farm compared to WuWa (which is the reason why i think your world bosses point is kinda wrong like in ZZZ bosses takes less time than wuwa so even if we did that comparison it’d be faster ngl). But we can all agree that it don’t take half an hour to do dailies on any gacha dats crazy fr 💀💀
wuthering wave daily DOES take longer than any hoyoverse games, what are you talking about? It always takes at least 2 hours to farm for echos in open world, and if you dont do it, you will never get enough of them to roll for decent usuable echos aka double crit.
Maybe try to actually play the game first, i never farmed echoes after the 1st week. And you don't need double crits on all pieces. I personally already 30* ToA for the past few weeks with 65/245 ratio units.
I never hunted havoc or Spectro echoes and was able to get a 5 set of both in the last week by just doing tacet fields, and echo hunting has nothing to do with dailies it’s just an optional grind to get main stat echoes faster 😭
take a shot everytime bro said disingenuous
I got 40% alcohol poisoning 😭
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Dude using electro team to fight a 40% electro res boss just to prove Wuwa take more time to clear dailies
lmao that's so dumb
EN moment (Player who can't even spend single second to read fking Word)
and running on verina a child unit who runs slower
guy is playing what he likes to play, how dare he!
@@MegaSuperCrown thats not the issue its the fact that he did everything slow on purpose and then acted like its the games fault lol
homie meat rided hoyo so much he broke his spine..
((meat rided)) Oh my. That's enough internet for the day! Hahaha.
Think hex was right lol. Just say you dont want to play openworld. Bruh
Also hes getting one guyd just like Lyo
The guy seems to be the kind of person to play Read Dead Redemption 2, Witcher 3, Skyrim, Elden Ring and complain that he's tired from open world games lmao. Open World games are only tiresome if you yourself only play the games in the genre.
Nah it's just hoyo dickriding. If wuwa was for some reason hoyo game he'd slurp it like crazy
Some dailies in WuWa is like instant. Go talk to the NPC and use skip button and daily mission is complete😂😂
Atleast we get 2k union exp idk about your trash Game ZZZ progression is like slower than my dog's Saliva
@@k-BlazeWuthringwaves30 tf are you talking about man. I don't play ZZZ, tried it for couple of hours and got bored so I left it there😂😂
@@k-BlazeWuthringwaves30 peak reading comprehension failure
@@k-BlazeWuthringwaves30 Dailies in zzz 2mins in zzz
Wuwa is arround 8-15mins
Also i play wuwa and zzz but zzz is just higher quality in everything
Even has music video like wuwa coould never
@@yaemiko9969then your bad
look at gabimaru, thats not even good stats for jinhsi and he still manage do the same time as valk in zzz with do right the same thing as him
nah nah nah, it just you
if you had optimal build on your dps, you can even do more faster daily
just say you hate open world gacha games
People are very disingenuous about their daily times. I keep hearing people “complain” about it so much that after I watched your video I went and timed how long it took me to do my dailies because I was genuinely curious as I’ve done mine everyday since the game released (Missed maybe 2-3 days). It took a whopping 4 minutes and 6 seconds. If you count loading into the game, you can add 30 seconds to that. I usually play PC but I’m not always home so this was also done on a mobile device.
If it takes you 30 minutes to do you dailies that means you’re doing something VERY wrong. Or you’re just bad at games in general idk.
True😭
Takes me more or less the same 4 minutes.😂
Heck, counting only in game time thats like 2 min or less, honestly i wish theres more dailies to do
those cc should really just simplify it to I like ZZZ better and not bash WuWa with misinformation, but nah gotta get that internet hate clout to boost views
I take 30 minutes cause I do the daily story quest and don't use the skip button since it's interesting lmao
Let's be honest. He saw iyo video an said let me copy your homework. Go to his channel..he has NO WuWa videos at all on his channel but apparently think people care about him liking zzz more 😒
You don't even have to spend energy lol.
Most of the dailies can be completed in one tacet. Daily quest is defeat TD...you dodge, kill an absorb in that same quest. An pick up 3 items an you're done lol.
Dude is definitely trolling an farming drama.
his comment section even more pathetic...defending his nonsense and blaming wuwa and other cc for calling him out
I'm done with my dailies in WuWa without even trying lol. I think this is a healthy way to play gacha games because you don't need to force yourself to do dailies. I guess he's just biased on ZZZ because he likes the game. Nothing wrong with that though. But he shouldn't discredit WuWa just because he doesn't like its dailies. I for one love doing what I'm doing with that game and when I checked my guidebook it's already 100% lol.
I watched that Hex's video reaction. Why are they keep comparing ZZZ to a fighting game? Because that is definitely not a FG lol.
funny part is
he never making any wuwa related videos before THAT two videos (discredit one and clarification one)
@@jacketofficial7089some people thought he quit content creation until now
Ikr?! Sometimes I wish dailies took longer 😂
This was a drama? Lmao all hex did was criticise him for trying to explain his reason for liking ZZZ better while fighting a boss since he didn't seem to be able to articulate what he wanted to say. Oh and she just told him to say he just doesn't like open world gachas
Dailies in Wuwa are, consume your energy and when your already did 90% of your task, and in the end is like cooking and done, literally i just speed run in mobile.
If you did 4 runs in tacet fields you can colllect 60 daily points and just do your daily quest then you're done. Basically can be finished for 6 minutes at most.
Why even complain for a game that takes ample of your time. The moment you clicked download and install it means you've already dedicated yourself to play the game and invest time lol
I like genshin I like wuwa I don't like Zzz
However to say wuwa takes longer to do dailies is the most hilarious thing
Tacet fields take the longest time because of spawns and waves, also they're ineffecient for stamina, and if it's anything to go by from Pgr they'll be less needed because events will eventually give more exp gains if they ever decide to add farming events
But that's the only thing you'd use them for, as it stands genshin took me 15 minutes to do dailies or usually 20 depending on the quest (ESCORTS)
Now it takes less if you go find chests and stuff but it's still a commitment with artifacts
Zzz is more if you account the CONSTANT LOADING
Wuwa takes me 8 minutes or less depending on what I'm doing, it's more efficient to do forgery challenges because you constantly need all those mats and bosses take a couple minutes because Respawn timer
However the little quests you have like picking mint and absorbing echoes takes no time to do as you can do it passively while doing dailies, especially if you have a mission to clear mobs, unfortunately ore doesn't count yet for collecting
However you have easier tasks like crafting and cooking and using supplies
If you combine all of these together it's piss easy to clear all of it
if we had the multi use system from Pgr in wuwa to burn stamina in domains faster it'd be nice, I hope more people suggest it because genshins way of handling farming is GARBAGE which is what wuwa borrows for it here sadly
Anyway if you don't have like 20 minutes maximum to load up your gacha game then don't play games in general these are designed to take the least so you can still feel like you're progressing
I can't get much progress in half an hour in other games like gachas
He must have gotten that exclusive program from Hoyo but thats besides the point I went to his channel and i didn't see any Wuwu videos before this so its confusing unless he really is just being petty with his vids which i wouldn't be surprised also hes fighting electric res enemies with electric team lol 😂
He is just farming views from both sides lately his zzz content is losing viewership fast. I also watched him for ZZZ but it's not that his content is unique anyway.
Pretty sure Valk got that Hoyo contract signed already, smells like a hoyoshill indeed
under the signed document is the requirement is to bash the competition by spreading misinformation
Valk just likes ZZZ more because its different from Genshin.
All of his reasoning in the actual video was off base af😂
wait is this the Xiao pfp guy, I rmb stumble upon his vid like years ago
@phambao6901 Valk is yes, he wanted to C6 him since the beta. He was THE Xiao main whale before Zy0x.
wuwa dailies take like 2-3 minutes. Ive only ever played epic seven and that gacha game is WAY LONGER. Wuwa is a blessing in the skies.
no one is hating on him just because he likes zzz more since thats his preference. The issue was he exaggerated lol.
Also yeah he is trolling he is doing this to get attention
Don't bother dude, he's definitely rage baiting... Though, of all the bosses he choose to fight in the video, he decided to fight a thunder boss using 2 thunder resonators 😂
At this point, I'll not be suprised if it really takes 30 mins for him to do dailies... which is just sad tbh.
Maybe he just wanted to do it, i fight fire resistant enemies with soldier 11 in ZZZ it just happens, you ain’t gotta minmax to do sum ass dailies, but i do agree that 20m to do dailies is wild thats just not true UNLESS you don’t want to do the daily quest (it happens, i hate those quests i literally did a whole ass world quest just to avoid daily quest, it is what it is)
OMG the guy is playing however and whatever he likes to play HOW DARE HEE?!
@@NFYT The thing is, you can choose any world boss other than thundering mephis to speed up the dailies requirements, UNLESS you're doing it for the challenge or for the lolz then I have nothing to say. It's just bizarre saying it takes a long time to finish dailies when he's doing this shenanigan.
@@MegaSuperCrown crazy isn't? lmao
@@TheDestinies so i saw the video its definitely not as bad as this video made it, its not something disingenuous he just randomly chose a couple bosses you can even see that in the map he chooses a boss then TP, its not something planned or a scheme to show how wuwa dailies are wayy too long, i mean if you see the video the whole purpose of that video is showing that he was able to do wuwa and ZZZ dailies BEFORE drama reactions ended, which is WILDD bc it was a 5 minute video saying his opinion, and he himself also said that he exaggerated the dailies a bit and its fair he was just saying his opinion its not something objective most of the time, definitely overblown, and thats the only thing you can say about the video, that he said dailies are long, other than that, to me its a pass, just an opinion video of why he thinks a game is better than the other.
HOWEVER i also want to say most people lost the main point, what he wanted to say is that ZZZ dailies take less time which is just the truth, he wasn’t necessarily saying that WuWa dailies took WAYY too much time but that in his opinion if he wants to play casual ZZZ allowed him to do it better (which is fair i mean wuwa had me minmaxing dailies LMAO, i was planning not to do stuff so that the energy did the dailies and level up weapon and different small weird stuff like just let me do the dailies by spending resin like genshin)
Some CCs just trying their very best to discredit Kuro's efforts, and that they can actually be up there together with hoyo💀
@@_earlgreytea oh saying your opinion is equal to discredit kuro, damn
But zzz is smooth and polished
Zzz even has music video
Wuwa could never
Hoyshill much? @@yaemiko9969
@@yaemiko9969 > music video
> that one EP by amalee herself
> smooth and polished
> fixed all performance issues and achieved the same with 20 less gb while being an open world
> saying your opinion
> proven wrong by multiple ccs
🤡🤡🤡
Up there what?wuwa animation is so janky,music is bad,story just bland,design are bland,is not even a good game
Funny, coming from game that only have 4 set of recycled animations during story outside of cinematic scenes. Also before they are saying shit about other devs, they should ask their dear hoyoverse to fix Diluc, Itto and Albedo first. Their 3D models are atrocious.
next week we are going to discuss on how much faster it is to collect XYZ flower in WUWA and GENSHIN smh
@@dogedingo1535 it’s such a dumb topic I never thought I’d actually have to cover but the misinfo on wuwa to make it look worse gets on my nerves sometimes
ZZZ is just that.. 😴😴😴
Also Valkyrja's used teams aren't equal. He uses Shark girl in ZZZ, which is fastest (by dps and speed) character but in WuWa, he uses Calcharo, which is one of the slowest character for dailies.
There's just, so many reasons that I just don't want to type here about why Genshin is just, underwhelming if compared to Wuthering Waves when it comes to the combat difference...
Of fucking course Wuthering Waves has an amazing combat compare to genshin.
Oh and DON'T make me write an ESSAY on "why clearing a dailies in 30 minutes is a massive skill issue and why you should touch a mf GRASS outside your house"
Seriously, Valk needed to learn to DIFFERENTIATE between fighting games and HACK N SLASH GAMES
imagine if that dood compared zzz to pgr and see how fast pgr dailies run
Man i just wish you could've borrowed someone's acc in 💤 and did the dailies SLOW AF with the wrong squad members and builds and elements just to say OHH WHY DID U LIE VAL, IT TOOK ME AN HOUR AND A HALF
Just to see him goes insane (wHaT dO yoU MeAn!! YoU disingenuous liar) 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Both sides are being petty imo. What he should've said is, he sick of open world and leave it alone. I know some people who say they quit Wuwa cause they don't wanna put time in another Genshin. Wuwa does feel like the devs played Genshin but said let's get rid of all this dumb crap.
I play four gachas, Wuwa and ZZZ being two of them so I'll say this. Both dallies can be done reasonably quick, but ZZZ is slightly faster. ZZZ dallies can be done in less than 2 minutes since the things you can do are right next to each other and you don't have to use battery, Wuwa just take about 1 to 2 minutes longer depending on what you get and decide to do for the day.
The dude is exaggerating about the 20 to 30 minutes for sure, but I don't think a video was needed. Both have pros and cons, so it just depends on what the player is looking for, which will determine whether they like one over the other, heck maybe even both.
To clarify, I love Wuwa way more than ZZZ since I look forward to story content, characters and updates to illusive Realm the best mode btw. ZZZ Hollow Zone and dialogue annoys me so I skip everything to get to the gameplay and I refuse to spend since I know I'll drop it before Wuwa. I don't have a bias but it's weird to me how both are quick to call others shills for something silly like this.
because valk do that first
a bit understand if valk make content or videos about wuwa before and ended up making that videos
but what make he got so much hate because he never make any wuwa videos before and we need his opinions about wuwa then? answer is no, never and never let any cc make any videos shitting on wuwa when they're never make any related wuwa videos
atleast lyo make wuwa videos before and wuwa videos more popular than his zzz videos, valk? lol
and he talk like he knew everything and then there is gabimaru giving some proof
valk started this and deserve the hate even more than lyo
I'm not defending him just to be clear lol. He did bring the attention to himself with his title, but I don't understand the logic of you can't have opinions about a game if you never uploaded anything about it before?
Either way I don't wanna go deep into this. It doesn't seem like something that needed more attention imo. Ignore the dude and play your games.
Players that don't play wuwa and play zzz instead is also a glazer
His loyal to hoyo his video is all hoyo gamesI don't think his the cc like the other who play multiple company.
Zzz usually takes me around 4 minutes while wuwa takes me 5-8 minutes to complete dailies and spend stamina. I personally like zzz dailies more because the dailies missions are consistent and doesn’t change, taking less than a minute to complete. Sometimes you get bad rng and it makes wuwa’s dailies more annoying for example absorb an echo or pick up five materials or even completing a farming stage that you didn’t plan to do that day, but overall it is not as long as some make it out to be. My biggest gripe with zzz is with their weekly mission. Specifically completing the 5 hollow zero stages, each run taking on average 20 minutes. I don’t mind hollow zero maybe once or twice a week, but doing 5 runs is excessive and a chore to do. If you are excluding story and events and only counting dailies and weeklies, zzz definitely takes more time than wuwa, well at least for me.
There's a video I came acroos where the guy tried boss fighting with healers and dendro traveller JUST to make it look like the Wanderer boss is super hard to kill. He was only attacking with Nilou. I laughed so hard at that. All bosses in genshin are literally almost one shot kill
It was a comparison video of PGR, Wuwa, ZZZ and genshin. ZZZ bosses are lazy but tankier so takes a while.
If you actually know Nilou, atleast you should have even an ounce of idea why she is ran with dendro and healers. That's literally her team.
@@thornszk Throughout the whole fight he used dendro 2/3 times and the fight was so god damn long, unless you want to tell me the reactions last 1 min long.. Nilou was at lvl 20 if I am not wrong
The damage was so freaking low even Qiqi can do more than that herself alone
CCs are going against Kuro for some reason especially Tectone's minions. At first, they were giving WuWa a fair shake and were playing it but something changed. They stopped streaming it as if a deal didn't go through. This happened very suddenly and it was so obvious. Tectone and his friends are as follows:
1. Tectone.
2. LolShinya.
3. Mr. Pokke
4. HexJuice
5. VxVfiction
and his former friend Mtashed.
Thank god they are slowly leaving wuwa.
they're stop playing wuwa? i thought they're still playing it when changli release
Id say let them be, maybe they didn't like the game that much and their just in it for the fame and bag? after all, they are just a CC and should not be taken seriously
Casual CCs not even good at the game. better watch Rexlent with those awesome gameplays it gives you inspiration about the game not drama. hahaha
@@thedendengaming I watch all of them trust me
I dunno what he was grinding by defeating those mobs, but he should've compared Disk Grinding in ZZZ with Tacet Fields in WuWa like you said because guess what, they're both *gears*
farming gears in ZZZ and then go defeating overworld bosses in WuWa is just logical fallacy/ false equivalent.
Sure, he could be doing this for trolling purposes, but what is he gaining from this?
Disk grinding is easier because we can choose main stat while in wuwa you can't
Wuwa could never
@@yaemiko9969bro what are you talking about
what a hoyoshill are you
@@yaemiko9969*looks at disk grinding
Dayum, the time taken is too fking long
Ww got the worst grinding out of them all, 2 elemrntal pieces is insane
@@soulpolska2046 what 2? i got 3 and 4 here as UL 50+
don't tell me your low UL level
Anyone who actually believes wuwa takes 20-30 minutes just for daily probably just heard about echo farming and thought its a requirement
1k views and 122 comments just in 2 hours? This ch is growing quickly
because he telling fact most of time
he maybe wuwa bias, but his point stan more stronger than valk or lyo do recently
I will say this to anyone and everyone, regardless of what zzz’s gameplay is like, and they may or may not be more generous than Genshin and HSR combined, you are not about to catch me on there for the sole purpose of the same copy paste hoyo artifact system they got in all three games. It ain’t no different from what I’ve researched. I am not stupid enough to put myself through that experience more than once just because it got a hoyo title on it and it’s mainstream.
P.s. The hoyo bias is all too real ain’t it
Credit farming is so
Important tho in wuwa, from what I saw in a whale account 5-6m credit isn’t enough to triple 10 the middle right left talent and level 6 at Na and Intro, but everything else I’m positive
Lmao, its his own fault by making bad takes & not wanting to own up to it. Dude should just say i like zzz more & not make up nonsense about wuwa then nobody would have anything 2 say.
Alright, speaking on the point of ZZZ daily time to complete vs Wuthering still isn't even fair. Cause you can open the shop, scratch a ticket, and drink a latte at the shop - less than 2 mins and dailies are done. That's even being generous to give you time to figure out what latte you want for the day.
Shilling for Hoyo is hard. He used to walk and talk in Genshin and now he's walking in claustrophobic environment in Zzz, poor man.
Ive noticed, you dont use the only important feature of OGX, the mods, so swap back to chrome.
Its faster and actually its lighter on mem because it doesnt have bloat like OGX
@@fakenickib6245 thanks for letting me know
Homie gone break there spine
Trash valk takes 😂 ZZZ is totally garbage straight up
I keep telling people its trash, but they refuse to listen.
And if they want those waifus so bad from that game --- modded koikatsu exists :P
Also brb, dowloading mulani mod now that its out to have some fun with her tonight.
@@Bullminator imagine going around telling people the game they like is bad your legit sad built like a discord mod it’s a good game threats why it made more than wuwa did in its first week than wuwa did 50 million so stop crying especially when you haven’t played the game
@@Skyrim_Thalia I tried to read this, but only thing i read is....nonsense.
@@Bullminator you legit upset people enjoy a game zzz is a good game your allowed to not like it but to go around and tell other people is cringe and people refuse to listen because they think your a m0ng
@@Skyrim_Thalia All i hear is the morgrol dog of the empire.
Today it took me 30 min of wuwa ---- because i hit rank 40 and got way to many waveplates (oh also i refuse to upgrade my world higher than this, its already anoying).
You Need world Higher for Better rewards with waveplates...After throw all your waveplates you can decrease to 1 lvl(or restore the max lvl) with 12 hours cooldown
upgrade your character skills and levels before going all in echo farming.
@@dmnsn392 This is what i have been doing :P
Problem is no money XD
Waiting for some new event to give me material boost.
I get echo upgrade materials from bosses anyway. Its slow, but its steady.
Second is that weekly boss materials are limited, so you need 2-4 weeks for single character anyway.
@@Bullminator u only need 1 main dps anyway outside endgame content
Just prepare 1 maxed characters for daily farm
Zzz is boring imo
dude complaning about openworld rpg x openzone ? pepelaf hoyo shill
good counter gabimaru ❤ love it
he didn't fight hologram so he can get rekt on video bigtime
Bro whether it's genshin , wuwa or any other gacha game , don't watch CCs unless they are chill like big bro Gabi.
Play and form your own decisions
Dont worry bro iTs His OpIniOns
oh my god hoyo white knights again stop with this shit and play your games but i see you all hate wuwa for the reward they gave us xD
Disingenuous
Discombobulate
I like WuWa, but it's following Genshin footsteps closer than I would like. I still gonna give Kuro benefit of the doubt because they are staffing up to create more content for the game. I want them to add cool stuffs that differentiate WuWa from Genshin further like matchmade co-op missions or... imagine they adding freaking APCs or tanks to the game and let players drive around certain parts of the map and blow shit up. That would make driving a regular car in NTE look like a joke.
Just wait and you will be suprise by it
@@supachaitengtakul5183 yessir! Hoping for a massive 2.0 update
PGR having 3D dorm systems and out of box thing is MC first person game lmao
U can even use Alpha move set as MC 🤣
Illusive Dream already example how creative kuro made game mode
Yeah. Wuwa just made me lose my 50/50 on hard pity thrice in a row. I don't have changli, ran out of Asterite and on low pity count. I will continue being a wuwa hater until they give me my Changli or when they let me win my first 50/50. So until then I am a wuwa hater
Skill issue
@@SparkShadow212 😂
luck issue
bro 💀
i feel you bro star rail made me lose nearly every 50/50, we gotta beat the game though
Y'all in chat really need to stop the zzz hate sheesh
valk do that first, oh wait, most zzz cc do that first
look at lyo
nah seriously though as much as I understand the hate on hoyo, y'all need to chill out💀
@@soloecalybs2500 same goes to them, they need to chill and mind their own business with zzz games
even valkryja never make any videos relate to wuwa before THAT video
@@soloecalybs2500This started by them, people tired how Hoyoshills came to every new gacha game video and say their game better and this game won't last longer because not in top 10 revenue
This already happen like 4 years lmao 🙃
And when they get attacked by some community who have a decent WK? Play Victim bro play victim
Let people like what they want there’s no need to make a video in response to someone’s personal opinion especially if it isn’t hurting someone
just tell valk to make wuwa related videos before posting about his opinion videos about wuwa
he's CC and he's know that
don't say pL4y1nG 0fFStR34m kind of excuse, because thats his job as cc
atleast lyo playing wuwa first and before, even had a lot of views from wuwa videos (one of wuwa video even reach 100-200k+ viewes lol), how about valk? lol
@@jacketofficial7089 what,
@jacketofficial7089 This is a dumb take. You don't have to play video games on stream or post videos about it before you release your opinion on it just cause you're a CC. With that logic, 90% of video game reviews shouldn't exist.
@@drakingp2119 brain rot
@@drakingp2119 but they're not reviewers, they're only CC not some ign sh*t
he need to do that
make wuwa videos first like lyo
thats the reason he got blacklash from wuwa fandom
Old video
Just said it straight wuwa is bad quality games and i wont play it,case close 👍
no one wants you
As someone who plays and likes both zzz and wuwa. When it comes to dailies wuwa is a disaster compared to HSR and ZZZ. I don’t even have to do anything in those games but wuwa you have to sit down and play it all out, they offer nothing for adults with busy daily lives . Sometimes I get stuck at 240/240 energy in wuwa because I work all day and Latin dance most days so I don’t have time to sit down and actually play out wuwa dailies. Wuwa is still a great game but it’s dailies take longer and more important than the length, you have to really sit down and play it all out. They don’t do any favors for adults with busy daily lives. Hoyo has set the bar for dailies. They respect our time and lives. Kuro either needs to simplify dailies or give us energy reserves. Also bro this video looks try hard af, playing on PC, show us how long it takes to do your dailies on mobile where most of us are doing our dailies for these games. Wuwa is a great game with trash daily system, no arguing that.
I play on, mobile and pc, the time taken is the exact same unless you have a shitty device, i will say hsr dailies are faster, but in practice its only 3-4 mins faster, the main reason why i feel that hsr dailies feel much faster is probably due to auto play and instant repeat on power spending, and also wuwa is getting reserve stamina system next update
TBF it's their first time respecting people's time with ZZZ and it's only on the dailies part.. and they're implementing an overflow system for waveplates in the near future of WW so good for us !
it takes 5 mins or less to do dailies on wuwa. it takes 5-6 mins to finish your waveplates on bosses, 8-10 mins on tacet fields, and 5-6 mins on forgery challenges. Reduce each by 1-2 minutes as there is always going to be a daily quest regarding those. It definitely respects your time as a student who has 11 subjects with a crap ton of assignments and a research project due in 2 months. (i play on mobile as well)
HSR is a turn based game, its got auto button nuff said.
ZZZ daily is quick because no content lel lmao except the take picture of the cat angers me.
Wuwa on a toilet break, everything done.
He’s just slow asf on both games to do dailies, do you know how much it took me to do my dailies on ZZZ? 40 seconds, and then each domain run if i do like 2 100s and 1 40 each one take me like 1 minute at most (20s on a 40 cost run), so it takes me like what, 3:20s to do the dailies on ZZZ, and thats on my HDD, if i swap ZZZ to my SSD like i do with wuwa it’d take less time, and if i swap wuwa to my HDD the game would stutter, have LONGGGG loading times and it’d take more to open (i am not joking, idk what game has with HDDs but it does NOT run well i had to swap wuwa to my SSD bc it was a very very bad experience on HDD, ZZZ runs fine on HDD except for y’know a bit longer loading screens but it doesn’t stutter).
I think it depends, sometimes i do the dailies slow on ZZZ bc i have to plan what to farm, but the truth is no matter what you farm it’ll probably be faster on ZZZ simply because they give you the choice to spend from 20 to 100 on mats, bosses are way easier to beat in ZZZ it takes like no time if you want to farm compared to WuWa (which is the reason why i think your world bosses point is kinda wrong like in ZZZ bosses takes less time than wuwa so even if we did that comparison it’d be faster ngl).
But we can all agree that it don’t take half an hour to do dailies on any gacha dats crazy fr 💀💀
Arrrgh
All this video proves is that yall need to touch grass soo tired of the my game is better then yours talk
Zzz is overall a higher quality game polished on release
Wuwa is bad on release and it's still bad after few months, can't fix fps drops
yep i have the same issue
gonna cry
stop yapping herrscher of sentience wuwa is overall better game than Zzz
@@reshiram8747 how so?
Yeah optimization is the only bad thing about WuWa.
wuthering wave daily DOES take longer than any hoyoverse games, what are you talking about? It always takes at least 2 hours to farm for echos in open world, and if you dont do it, you will never get enough of them to roll for decent usuable echos aka double crit.
No you get enough with only tacet fields. Stop lying.
If only double crit is usable for you then you have a severe skill issue.
And from late 1.0, they increased the rate of 3-cost echoes from the tacet fields as well.
Maybe try to actually play the game first, i never farmed echoes after the 1st week. And you don't need double crits on all pieces. I personally already 30* ToA for the past few weeks with 65/245 ratio units.
I never hunted havoc or Spectro echoes and was able to get a 5 set of both in the last week by just doing tacet fields, and echo hunting has nothing to do with dailies it’s just an optional grind to get main stat echoes faster 😭
least obvious hoyoshill😂