@@scottwarren4998 Denis was basically depleted after an exhausting match with Pushkar. That's why his arms are so swole. Too much lactic acid at this point. If you take a look at how Lilev won the 5th round you'll see Denis basically pinned himself when he was in a relatively good position. Here's what Liliev said after the match: During a telephone conversation right after the match, Arsen surprised Armpower's reporter saying that Denis Cyplenkov was exceptionally strong and even stronger than Liliev himself on that day. And it wasn’t false coyness of a champion. Arsen wanted them to realize how the combination of the four competitors influenced the final result of the match.
"During a telephone conversation right after the match, Arsen surprised Armpower's reporter saying that Denis Cyplenkov was exceptionally strong and even stronger than Liliev himself on that day. And it wasn’t false coyness of a champion. Arsen wanted them to realize how the combination of the four competitors influenced the final result of the match."
Andrew Duong thanks a lot it always confused me this one but i think the rules should be the same all over the world coz if this is true basically michael todd can't even play outside USA coz he is nothing without his joint lock technique but really strong when does it coz it isn't easy to beat chaffee.
Nidhish Vyas True it should be uniform all over the world. But some people say using your body weight should be illegal even though that is a fundamental part of arm wrestling. So if they were uniform, they have to be sensible rules that everyone can agree to otherwise no one would agree
Andrew Duong people complaining about using the body weight is not correct clearly don't understand arm wrestling as relying just on side pressure and not having enough training with it will easily snap anyone's arm no matter if pro or amatuer, i think the true lesson for such people is if they snap their arms once then they might stop bitching about it :P
Nidhish Vyas So True, going back to the Todd joint lock move, it can be countered with a top roll and tricep press. I have seen a 50 year old Brzenk beat his technique.
If the refs did their job and tapped michael todd on the back, like how they tapped Cyplenkov on his back for being too low in a losing position. Nobody would even know todd's name.
Everyone would know him and he would still be a champion. I hate him, he gets away with too much bullshit, but the reality is that he has an incredibly strong arm and hand. He is always within the rules, because there are holes in the rules. He simply found a way to abuse them.
She definitely has a thing for him lol, whenever she referees one of his matches she seems to touch him and look at him as much as possible, it's not just this match.
Зачем ты это пишешь? Они же оба Россияне за одну страну выступают, с твоей стороны прослеживается нацизм честно говоря(( возьми того же Джона Брзенка уже будучи за сорок лет он разгромным счётом сделал Цыпленкова)) я у большинство русских заметил готов проиграть кому угодно, даже той же США, который непримеримый "враг" наш, но только не Кавказцу. На Кавказе малые народы исторически всегда боролись за свою независимость, чтоб не быть рабам царской империи а затем советского союза и после развала нынешней России, нечего не поменялось, предательство, ложь и коррупция а вот лица уже другие, однако воруют щас гораздо больше и наглее, народ не во что не ставят, для таких митингов у ниприпасены свои пехотинцы, им говорят фас они команду выполняют, хотя некоторые среди них тоже понимают что происходит в стране, но пока молчат?) И грызут косточку
Tar Tarik родом Денис с Украины, как и Пушкарь, а о нацизме с пальца высосано. С твоей точки зрения все будут нацистами кто не говорит о Кавказе хорошо
@@tartarik7161 а ты зачем это пишешь? Много кавказцы были рабами у империи или советов? Жили обособленно и обычно. Ах да, в армию вас призывали откуда вы как трусы последние бежали если была война. Позорники Аллаха.
Cierto, pero tomo como referencia al Arsen adolescente que puso contra las cuerdas a una leyenda del peso medio como Gashevski o derrotando con claridad a Oncescu en la Nemiroff world cup. Esto indica, sin duda, que Arsen es un superclase y nació para el deporte, hay espléndidos pulsistas, pero Arsen es de los pocos que está en otra dimensión, anabolizantes y hormona del crecimiento aparte. En mi opinión, uno de los mejores atletas de todos los tiempos en este deporte.
The next step for all of Cyplenkov's worthy opponents is to try to maneuver your body completely under the table and push against the underside of the table with you feet and pull---with both hands---down.
Watch Denis Tsyplenkov matches vs Devon Larratt and Andrey Pushkar Live on Pay-per-View on November 17-18 ! Link: armbets.tv/event/80/armfight-50-&-zloty-tur-2018
тут посев был такой по группам, что Ципленкова выдали до финала. С этого Ципленков больше на таких турнирах участвовать неибудет. Все было сделано для победы Лилиева, хотя и не разу не приуменьшаю его заслуги, он очень достойный арм!
Anyone know where I can get the full results, from round 1 to the final. If you have time, could you please tell me what actually happened in this Arm Wrestling day, seems like Denis have a few hard fights, and Arsen got to this final with some easy fights. How many and how hard/long were Denis fights, and how many and how hard/long were Arsen fights please, in the Denis Cyplenkov vs Arsen Liliev. Wayne
If you have time, could you please tell me what actually happened in this Arm Wrestling day, seems like Denis have a few hard fights, and Arsen got to this final with some easy fights. How many and how hard/long were Denis fights, and how many and how hard/long were Arsen fights please, in the Denis Cyplenkov vs Arsen Liliev. Wayne
this match is from 2010 denis is much stronger now, i think he was also stronger than liliev here but his wrist was much weaker and thats why he failed..
I heard Denis Cyplenkov, too which in my opinion is the best Puller ever, came in tiered after a lot of Pulling, and Arsen came in fresh, anyone “PLEASE” know where I can get the full results for the whole day. Wayne
This was before Denis hit his Invincible form in 2018. Also, shame he didn't have the brains to not stay so open for so long! Had he closed his body he would've easily won!
They're not short. I've noticed most people have long arms. If your wingspan is longer than your height you actually have long arms...And most people that have long arms have shitty biceps genetics lmao
Why the hell refree tapped on the back of CYPLENKOV..this angle video i have seen for the 1 st time, that in my opinion broke the composure of Denis ,although this had been a great match .Denis is a different human being all together even after applying so much pressure his facial expression doesn't change much and he stays calm ,what a demeanor and what a gentle human being he is ,even after staying in this agressive sport for more than a decade ..true legend of arm wrestling and with left arm he is is absolute THANOS
Arsen was a beast back then and had one of the best hits in the world. Dennis did just enough to stop it but took much energy off him...so lost later. Very nice fight indeed
newsflash - most top athletes use steroids, and the ones passing the tests are either beating them or using what's called a 'designer steroid' to beat the tests. Historically you can look up the 'Balco' scandal for history about designer steroids. Arm Wrestling is usually unregulated in America or elsewhere, so yes anabolics will help you to win and recover especially a sport like arm wrestling where you pull all day. Different steroids do different things, not just bulk up and get you cut.
There's no secret to it, Denis openly admits in loads of interviews to using steroids. He already had a growth anomaly so it just enhanced his already superhuman frame.
Using your body weight is proper technique. Although it is called arm wrestling, for years and years, arm wrestlers have, professionally, used their bodies to aid in pinning an opponent. Injuries are much more likely to occur if you use just arm strength alone.
Hi there, I am a big fan of Denis Cyplenkov, think he’s the best Arm Wrestler there has ever been, and when I seen him 100kg Bench Press for Reps, that’s hard core core.
Arsen is great, but not a true heavyweight, he can not dominate the heaviest classes, this win was only due to a leghty fight cyplenkov had with pushkar before.
I thought Arsen was going to position himself upside down and push down against the bottom part of the table with his feet to get leverage for a minute.
Denis always seems like such a good sport..win or lose he seems very respectful to everyone.
Yes yes yes, because he uses drugs to become a big guy. Drugs makes him know that he can win 99 % of the time
@@scottwarren4998 Какие наркотики Дубина???!!! Не наркотики а стеройды! И в проф спорте все спортсмены сидят на стеройдах.
@@gfyhg866hgg u want a kiss? :p
@@scottwarren4998 they ALL use drugs
He is...and that's why everyone loves him
Denis doesn't look human. Those arms look like they belong to a Warcraft figure. Unbelievable.
"But he look green lol" Ogrim Doomhammer
How the hell did aresen beat cyplenkov?
@@scottwarren4998 Denis was basically depleted after an exhausting match with Pushkar. That's why his arms are so swole. Too much lactic acid at this point. If you take a look at how Lilev won the 5th round you'll see Denis basically pinned himself when he was in a relatively good position. Here's what Liliev said after the match:
During a telephone conversation right after the match, Arsen surprised Armpower's reporter saying that Denis Cyplenkov was exceptionally strong and even stronger than Liliev himself on that day. And it wasn’t false coyness of a champion. Arsen wanted them to realize how the combination of the four competitors influenced the final result of the match.
@@scottwarren4998 The next time when they meet Denis flash Arsen several times
Steroids
"During a telephone conversation right after the match, Arsen surprised Armpower's reporter saying that Denis Cyplenkov was exceptionally strong and even stronger than Liliev himself on that day. And it wasn’t false coyness of a champion. Arsen wanted them to realize how the combination of the four competitors influenced the final result of the match."
why did referee tap on cyplenkov's back to stand up and when todd does it no shits are given. can anyone please explain
Nidhish Vyas Because in Russia they see that as an illegal move, while in here in America it is completely legit /s
Andrew Duong thanks a lot it always confused me this one but i think the rules should be the same all over the world coz if this is true basically michael todd can't even play outside USA coz he is nothing without his joint lock technique but really strong when does it coz it isn't easy to beat chaffee.
Nidhish Vyas True it should be uniform all over the world. But some people say using your body weight should be illegal even though that is a fundamental part of arm wrestling. So if they were uniform, they have to be sensible rules that everyone can agree to otherwise no one would agree
Andrew Duong people complaining about using the body weight is not correct clearly don't understand arm wrestling as relying just on side pressure and not having enough training with it will easily snap anyone's arm no matter if pro or amatuer, i think the true lesson for such people is if they snap their arms once then they might stop bitching about it :P
Nidhish Vyas So True, going back to the Todd joint lock move, it can be countered with a top roll and tricep press. I have seen a 50 year old Brzenk beat his technique.
If the refs did their job and tapped michael todd on the back, like how they tapped Cyplenkov on his back for being too low in a losing position. Nobody would even know todd's name.
Everyone would know him and he would still be a champion. I hate him, he gets away with too much bullshit, but the reality is that he has an incredibly strong arm and hand. He is always within the rules, because there are holes in the rules. He simply found a way to abuse them.
@@NSB25445 spot on!
Todd has won every league lmao, he just adapts his kings move to the rules
@@NSB25445 you don't hate him, you have forgiven him
@@Element21VA Ahhmen..
I dare Denis Cyplenkov to straighten his arms
He did when he took part in a tv contest where he had to overhead press a super heavy dumbbell.
@@nvmffs he didnt
@@samfred3943 Did you watch it?
@@nvmffs yes i have
@@samfred3943 So how would he keep that weight overhead if he didn't use his joints? His muscles would get tired prematurely.
0:30 The ref mirring Denis 😂
Yes
She definitely has a thing for him lol, whenever she referees one of his matches she seems to touch him and look at him as much as possible, it's not just this match.
After watching two titans crushing each other, she will never be relieved enough to find the true man.
Arda Arsen ACER she is 42+ years old now
@@thecrazygamerletsplay9727 how do you know
Ден лучше всех, кто там есть был и будет!
those bicep were about to explode .. so huge
Ну судя по другим их поединкам, Денис был действительно уже очень сильно забит.
Что это значит?
оба красавцы. Мужики.
He was just tired after the match with Pushkar, while Liliev had no any strong opponents. Also Denis injured his arm in summer 2012.
Doesn't make any sense, this video is uploaded in march 2012
I think no one of them were in 100%
But Arsen got realy strong
And in think that's why he realy wins
One year later Denis flashed him
Give your excuses but history is made
Один свеженький, другой после Пушкаря)) Объективно) Будь это свежий бой Денис бы не моргнув сожрал его.
Чемпионат есть чемпионат! Лалиев же не виноват в этом! он просто сделал своё дело
Зачем ты это пишешь? Они же оба Россияне за одну страну выступают, с твоей стороны прослеживается нацизм честно говоря(( возьми того же Джона Брзенка уже будучи за сорок лет он разгромным счётом сделал Цыпленкова)) я у большинство русских заметил готов проиграть кому угодно, даже той же США, который непримеримый "враг" наш, но только не Кавказцу. На Кавказе малые народы исторически всегда боролись за свою независимость, чтоб не быть рабам царской империи а затем советского союза и после развала нынешней России, нечего не поменялось, предательство, ложь и коррупция а вот лица уже другие, однако воруют щас гораздо больше и наглее, народ не во что не ставят, для таких митингов у ниприпасены свои пехотинцы, им говорят фас они команду выполняют, хотя некоторые среди них тоже понимают что происходит в стране, но пока молчат?) И грызут косточку
Tar Tarik родом Денис с Украины, как и Пушкарь, а о нацизме с пальца высосано. С твоей точки зрения все будут нацистами кто не говорит о Кавказе хорошо
@@tartarik7161 а ты зачем это пишешь? Много кавказцы были рабами у империи или советов? Жили обособленно и обычно. Ах да, в армию вас призывали откуда вы как трусы последние бежали если была война. Позорники Аллаха.
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Денис Цыпленков vs Арсена Лилиева (FINAL RUSSIAN OPEN 2013)
Видео 2013 года. Честный реванш. Механическое успокоение прыгунка Денисом.
Anyone knows the name of the girl? 😍
Cierto, pero tomo como referencia al Arsen adolescente que puso contra las cuerdas a una leyenda del peso medio como Gashevski o derrotando con claridad a Oncescu en la Nemiroff world cup. Esto indica, sin duda, que Arsen es un superclase y nació para el deporte, hay espléndidos pulsistas, pero Arsen es de los pocos que está en otra dimensión, anabolizantes y hormona del crecimiento aparte. En mi opinión, uno de los mejores atletas de todos los tiempos en este deporte.
gracias por el comentario, que quiere decir ''pulsista'' en este contexto? un saludo
@@holliswilliams8426es como decir "luchador de brazos" o "pulseador" creo
The next step for all of Cyplenkov's worthy opponents is to try to maneuver your body completely under the table and push against the underside of the table with you feet and pull---with both hands---down.
REFEREE IS SO HOT.
Vural Mecbur yes
Yes...the girl was ok too
@@baboom007 Hahaha
anyone knows what his name is ?
@@strengtharmy5655 Винера Уразгилдеева - Vinera Urazgeldeeva
Impressive !!
This is a HULK indeed...
Watch Denis Tsyplenkov matches vs Devon Larratt and Andrey Pushkar Live on Pay-per-View on November 17-18 ! Link: armbets.tv/event/80/armfight-50-&-zloty-tur-2018
Wow, it takes a LOT of power to do that to Denis!
An old one but gold one...a level PED use playing field as well. Good match.
Денис Цыпленков vs Арсена Лилиева (FINAL RUSSIAN OPEN 2013) нуну)))))смарите на послед встречу)
До этого финала денис с пушкарём боролся
Kuk Peri а ты выиграл бы Дениса после того как он поборолся с Андреем и проиграл Арсену ?
и что блядь Арсен дома валялся что ли на диване
@@frankpitt2257 у него более слабый оппонент был, не так сильно забили как Дениса
denis lifted his elbow twice, slightly but noticeable and still arsen won gg to him
Did you see what Denis did to him next year? Absolutely made him look weaker than Devon lol. Flashpins
Después en el 2013 vuelven a competir y esta vez Denis clypenkov derrota Arsen Liliev sin ningún problema.
En serio?! no lo sabía
Pero Arsen se ve más delgado ahí.
Cyplenkov es ucraniano nacionalizado ruso
Травма у арсена была серезная
have you ever thought "maybe it's ME who's confused about the real rules of armwrestling, and not the rest of the world" ???
Заруба просто слов нет оба Крассавцы и это знают все а выиграл сильнейший это спорт я до этого говорил в спорте нет самого сильного
Liliev rised his elbow from red marked sponge multiple times betwen 2:50 and 3:03 isn't that disqvalification? Judges???
I didn't see him raising his elbow, just moving it around on the pad; which is legal.
тут посев был такой по группам, что Ципленкова выдали до финала. С этого Ципленков больше на таких турнирах участвовать неибудет. Все было сделано для победы Лилиева, хотя и не разу не приуменьшаю его заслуги, он очень достойный арм!
Anyone know where I can get the full results, from round 1 to the final. If you have time, could you please tell me what actually happened in this Arm Wrestling day, seems like Denis have a few hard fights, and Arsen got to this final with some easy fights. How many and how hard/long were Denis fights, and how many and how hard/long were Arsen fights please, in the Denis Cyplenkov vs Arsen Liliev.
Wayne
I want some of whatever Arsen is taking. I need arms like that!
So what’s up with Arsen Liliev? Will he come back or he’s done?
If you have time, could you please tell me what actually happened in this Arm Wrestling day, seems like Denis have a few hard fights, and Arsen got to this final with some easy fights. How many and how hard/long were Denis fights, and how many and how hard/long were Arsen fights please, in the Denis Cyplenkov vs Arsen Liliev.
Wayne
Arsen had the body of a middle weight armwrestler, and the arms of an open division bodybuilder.
В коментариях пишут видео 2013 года, а ничего что оно залито сюда в марте 2012? Или как это, с будущего им видео прислали?) Думайте иногда товарищи
whats the name of the song in the begining the one whit ramstain??
this match is from 2010 denis is much stronger now, i think he was also stronger than liliev here but his wrist was much weaker and thats why he failed..
Im looking forward to this liliev vs the no limits larrat..
@vinskie Lover this version of Liliev would steamroll Larratt 6-0 in the same fashion Denis did
What rammstein song is this, i cant seem to find it.
Красавцы!!! Оба!!! Хотя болел за Дениса, Арсен тоже понравился.
what's the name of the song ?
Is this the full match?
Not many man in this world coming home and say to his girl ' I beat Denis Cyplenkov in armwrestling match '
Devon definitely didn't lol
the referee is so pretty/ cô em trọng tài đẹp gái quá
anyone knows what his name is ?
@@strengtharmy5655 Venera Urazgalieva
Denis.. what a monster he stopped Liliev with his biceps
Yeah, I haven't seen many people stop Liliev right in his tracks like that. Liliev's matches usually last less than a second.
from which country is arsen?
I heard Denis Cyplenkov, too which in my opinion is the best Puller ever, came in tiered after a lot of Pulling, and Arsen came in fresh, anyone “PLEASE” know where I can get the full results for the whole day.
Wayne
Denis is great
Посмотрите это видео, оно даст все ответы, на вопрос- кто самый сильный из них. Денис Цыпленков vs Арсена Лилиева (FINAL RUSSIAN OPEN 2013)
when was this 6-0 match?
This was before Denis hit his Invincible form in 2018. Also, shame he didn't have the brains to not stay so open for so long! Had he closed his body he would've easily won!
He was tired, it was a turnament, he pulled others before this
name of the song pls..
incredible round of applause for that man lol, he just beat a beast, Dennis showing respect, good stuff.
Cyplenkov looks like a T-Rex with those short arms
They're not short. I've noticed most people have long arms. If your wingspan is longer than your height you actually have long arms...And most people that have long arms have shitty biceps genetics lmao
He actually have relatively long arms by measurements, just too thick of muscles
He evolved directly from a T-Rex. He is the intermediate from Dino to man.
Arsen Liliev the only person who can beat Denis Cyplenkov...
Смотрите поединки Дениса Цыпленкова с Девоном Ларраттом и Андреем Пушкарем в прямом эфире 17-18 ноября! Ссылка: armbets.tv/event/80/armfight-#50-&-zloty-tur-2018
Why the hell refree tapped on the back of CYPLENKOV..this angle video i have seen for the 1 st time, that in my opinion broke the composure of Denis ,although this had been a great match .Denis is a different human being all together even after applying so much pressure his facial expression doesn't change much and he stays calm ,what a demeanor and what a gentle human being he is ,even after staying in this agressive sport for more than a decade ..true legend of arm wrestling and with left arm he is is absolute THANOS
Arsen was a beast back then and had one of the best hits in the world.
Dennis did just enough to stop it but took much energy off him...so lost later.
Very nice fight indeed
You got it! He has one of the best hits in history!
Hmmm... I like the chick referee. She's the type of woman who takes no crap from men.
Del Pol You are? That's fine. I'm not interested though, I like women.
.
She also looks like a woman who cuts her own hair without a mirror.
Biggmofo Ya, she's HOT.
hahaha
А как судью зовут? Кто нибудь знает ее имени?
newsflash - most top athletes use steroids, and the ones passing the tests are either beating them or using what's called a 'designer steroid' to beat the tests. Historically you can look up the 'Balco' scandal for history about designer steroids. Arm Wrestling is usually unregulated in America or elsewhere, so yes anabolics will help you to win and recover especially a sport like arm wrestling where you pull all day. Different steroids do different things, not just bulk up and get you cut.
wasnt liliev like one of the smaller guys in the armwrestling circuit?
Где плечо Дениса в начале и где плечо Арсена?
Dennis loses?!? This one who defeated him is not human
Arsen is BULGARIAN :) , Bulgarian world champion to 18 years is MITKO PETROV in my school :)
He is Bulgarian he is my friend :)
He is Bulgarian ! stop spam you are so stupid, bitch !
Name Arsen Liliev
Country Russia
Team Team Ossetia
Born 1987.5.27
Height 180cm
Weight 85-95kg
Style Toproll
Record World&European Champion
Fedor Kulikov Russian indeed!
en.armpower.net/competitors/arsen-liliev-143.html
my bad
Cómo pecheaste
Both these guys would crush my hand like in the movie, The Fly.
0:35 whats the name of the song?
Aresen liliev is very strong...that denis has to use the kings move n still lost
Denis is not fresh because the match with Pushkar(RIP)
He was knocked on from the match before vs Pushkar. But still giving a great fight and not complaining.
There's no secret to it, Denis openly admits in loads of interviews to using steroids. He already had a growth anomaly so it just enhanced his already superhuman frame.
Exogenous Growth hormone not growth anomaly
Using your body weight is proper technique. Although it is called arm wrestling, for years and years, arm wrestlers have, professionally, used their bodies to aid in pinning an opponent. Injuries are much more likely to occur if you use just arm strength alone.
Hi there,
I am a big fan of Denis Cyplenkov, think he’s the best Arm Wrestler there has ever been, and when I seen him 100kg Bench Press for Reps, that’s hard core core.
How many reps did he do?
lol its funny how such adverts actually make writers talk to themselves.
¿Y porque ponen esa musica metalera?
Arsen liliev is so strong indeed..
Totally agree. Most part of the time Todd,s elbow is up from the pad and his shoulder (and the whole of the body) under the table.
denis is a left handed armwerestler. .. lets see if arsen can beat him wiith left arm..
He beat Arsen rather easily with his right last year. But you're right ,he is a leftie. He's been doing very well with his right this year, though.
@peroxsigh
plus Arsen is on SAA + GH %)
@@im_cold_blooded he's right handed but stronger on table with his left
Arsen is great, but not a true heavyweight, he can not dominate the heaviest classes, this win was only due to a leghty fight cyplenkov had with pushkar before.
@@ethrez did cyplenkov fight pushkar the same day as he fough liliev?
После борьбы с Пушкарём рука забилась и Лилиеву фортануло. ))
Music: Rammstein - Der Meister
thanks, you are a good man
come on DENIS, if you do the same thing like MICHAEL under the Table TOOD did, i think you"ll be the strongest Armwrestlerr in the world...
Damn that was a nice match
Whats название песни в backround?
I thought Arsen was going to position himself upside down and push down against the bottom part of the table with his feet to get leverage for a minute.
2:45 Leg leverage . Is that Legal ?
Denis made the critical error of leaning backwards...
Dennis had no energy left after he eliminated pushkar in the semis.
hahaha lol
was this the same day as he faced pushkar? or did cyplenkov get a day rest after beating pushkar?
это уж точно...от просмотра устаешь ппц)))
Funny about this was when they meet in the next event and Denis Flash Arsen all the match ,and after that we never watch Arsen once again
ref +Micheal Todd style willl be great
cô em trọng tài đẹp gái quá/ the referee is so pretty
I kind of don't like how Denis goes into a king's move type thing whenever he is about to lose.
it looks like thumb wrestling, Arsen grabbed Denis's whole thumb and wrestled with his thumb!!!!
This is the first time I have ever seen this denis man losing. Finally.
Yup, it doesn't happen often. Liliev, Pushkar, John, Todd, and always with the right, as far as I am concerned. Left? ja! Good luck finding something.
i always thought Denis was undefeated... The real life Hulk
he injured his left hand, and that's lost
Дэн ну ты перекачал руку. как купаешься хоть?)) респект красавчик!!
Cyplenkov is like a man attached to the arm. :D
This deserves more likes🤣🤣🤣
OMG Denis hands are just unreal...
Титаны🤝✊👍 💪🏼 уважуха
Судья женщина как ее зовут и фамилия?