My buddy Mark "owns" a Gato class submarine up in Wisconasin. A road trip and sleep-over for midwestern hahnyaaks is being planned for next year. I plan to recreate scenes from this excellent film and Down Periscope on that occasion. USS Cobia may never be the same! Perhaps in the quiet of the Lake Michigan night, Ed Ackerman, Dudley Morton, Dangerous Dan Daspit, Sam Dealey, and Dick O'Kane will stop by to tell stories to those that have ears to hear.
One thing I learned about this Movie, is that Production company went aboard a Gato Class submarine so that they could build an accurate replicate sets of the Conning tower and other portions of the sub. This set the movie apart from other sub movies at the time.
You should see the interior set for Das Boot,it’s at a museum in Germany. So accurate it’ll make you claustrophobic. How those men could go to see in that tiny,cramped tube is beyond comprehension.
@@fw1421 I saw the interior of U-505 in Chicago. American Subs were definitely bigger and had air conditioning. But both were necessary as the Pacific was a much larger field of Operation.
@@coleparker The U-505 was a Mk IX class U Boat and much bigger than the MkVII that were the mainstay of the German U-Boat fleet. Yea,US Gatos were huge comparatively. Have you been to the US Sub Museum and gone to the Nautilus? A lot of sub but unbelievably cramped. The crew almost had to be midgets to get in their bunks. I’m 5’10” and I don’t think I could lie down in one without bending my knees!
@@fw1421 Yes U-505 was a Type IX C boat and were bigger and capable of reaching the US coast without much trouble as opposed to the smaller Type VIIs. I have never gotten the chance yet to visit, although as a small kid in the 50s and 60s it was point of talk as my father was still in the Navy at the time. But I did get a chance to visit a Skipjack class submarine in 1961 when I lived on Mare Island. BTW, a good book to read about U-boat war is Grey Wolf Grey Sea. It tells the story of U-124 which was a Type IXB class U-boat.
I like watching these old movies and seeing actors starting out as bit players and then becoming stars in their own right by the '60s. The actor wearing the headphones and the actor standing next to Burt.
Great movie, Gable was fading out as lead role, Bert was the new generation of actors. Gable died in this movie and Bert assumed command, kinda ironic.
@Steven Wilshusen I read the synopsis and review of the book. From what I read, the book looks real interesting. I will definitely be looking to get a copy of it.
They definitely take a good dose of "artistic license" back when they filmed this. In the opening scene a sub gets rammed by a Japanese destroyer while at periscope depth. The scene ends with the crew crawling up onto wooden flotsam. Now we all know that it'd be extremely difficult to find enough wood on a submarine to start a campfire, let alone enough for a bunch of men to float on lol... Oh well, it's still a great classic film...
I have to give the script writers credit. They used real IJN ship names: Momo was an obsolete destroyer by WWII, and Yukukazi (spelling?) was one of those big 1930s badasses with the 8 or 9 long lance torpedoes and the 6 5inch rifles - Kagero class maybe?
@@colintraveller looked her up....per Wikipedia, she is Akikazi per the book Run Silent, Run Deep,another just post WWI obsolete destroyer...most of these pre Long Lance destroyers were converted to ASW escorts. Very appropriate for the book...
@@colintraveller found a Yukikazi listed as a Kagero class destroyer...sounds closs to what the actors are saying and she is a modern destroyer that can do the 30 knots Clark Gable mentions and has a single twin 5 inch turret foward like the ship model...this is the one I'm going with....:-) per the movie, and Akikazi per the book....
@@sclogse1 I am not taking anything away from Clark Gable as an actor. But he was given the role to help boost the audience appeal. Burt Lancaster, who was one of the producers did not really want him that much. No Tony Curtis never would have been considered. He was at that time considered most for light comedy roles. Besides he was in Operation Petticoat.
Decent movie, but the Japanese never adopted convoys for their freighters. US subs picked them off in droves because they were undefended. The Japanese did use convoy tactics to a degree in trying to land troops in Guadalcanal, but virtually never used them to protect their shipping. It was one of their mistakes in the war...among many others.
Actually, they did start a basic convoy system I believe beginning in late 1944 or early 45. The problem they had was that many of the Destroyer captains in the IJN did not want to be tied to such duty. As such the IJN built a class of small escorts called Chidoris to deal with our Subs.
An adult Burt Lancaster at the height of his stardom. This is 12 years after “The Killers”,10 years after “Sorry, Wrong Number, 6 years after “Come Back Little Sheba” 5 years after “From Here To Eternity” (Oscar nomination) and the year after “Gunfight at The OK Corral” and “The Sweet Smell of Success”. Lancaster was 45 when when he made this film. Why bother to post on subjects you know nothing about?
Jeff, true enough. Even so, a little common sense wouldn't go amiss. I can imagine the USN consultant (usually senior rank i.e. Captain or possibly flag rank) mentioning this and being ignored. Good enough for the cinema audience but not for those who served.
@@commondirtbagz7130 Very true Common. Even so... Don't get me wrong, enjoyable enough movie, but little things like this can irritate. I can imagine the author "Edward L Beach " himself a decorated submariner having the same qualms.
Kevin Duffy yeah, and I do understand that for sure. But you have to understand when they made this they probably realized that it would be something only someone as well learned as you would notice and therefore decided to focus efforts on something else, despite a slightly less realistic aesthetic.
Just one example of the superb actor Mr Gable was. One thing I never understood though was John Wayne's very deep and bitter hatred of Mr Gable and any of his roles he performed. Jealousy perhaps?
Maybe it was something that Clarke had said to him personally .. but i have been seen anything of what you are mentioning .. ever said in any of the numerous people that knew and worked with Duke . It's known that Duke supported has always supported the Military . But it wasn't the Duke's decision that he couldn't or didn't want to serve . It was those who ran the Studios and Army Brass .. that saw the Duke in a more important role .. Where'as Clarke who flew on B17's as a waist gunner . What is your source for that which you speak off ????
@@colintraveller My sources are different biographical sites on the web. It's interesting to note that I believe it was in Mr. Wayne's film McClintock where a character that looked nearly identical to Clark Gable had an important role. This actor was even dressed identically in an outfit that Mr. Gable wore in one of his famous pictures. Needless to say the character in question was of a nefarious nature and duly humiliated in an important scene. Perhaps that says something of Mr. Wayne's fixation in harming Mr. Gable's image.
This was a Great Book, but they screwed it up when they made the movie. How? Read the book. The cast was prefect, but they changed the ending. What's new for Hollywood? They did it for Burt Lancaster, who was a flash in the pan. Clark Gable was the better actor.
Not at night. Night surface attacks were a common tactic for both the US and German navies, at least early on. Fell out of favor with the Germans as the allies got better radars on their warships. Japanese never really upgraded.
It was taking place at night and was a VERY effective tactic against escorts without surface search radar....the uboats used it a LOT during the 2 "happy times" in 1941 and 1942 till radar equipped escorts made it suicidal....
@@davidkaminski615 Maybe so but those map planes must have flying really low to be picked up on surface search radar. I was a radar operator in the navy.
@@cat-lw6kq US submarines were equipped with the SD air search radar early in the war. It was pretty crude- maximum range 6 miles, didn't give direction (used older style A-scope display instead of later PPI) but did give US subs enough warning to dive in time.
@@asnrobert The for that info t read a book about early radar use mostly airborne radar that was used to detect U- Boats at night. I wasn't taught any military history in the Navy.
At the start of the war, some sub captains were in their mid 40s, as the war went on, the average age went down to early 30's. While I don't know which, I have read that at least two ace skippers were older guys.
Great movie Burt Lancaster, Clark Gable. Two of the greatest actors of all time in my opinion!!!!
Don Rickles, Jack Warden, Frank Gorshen
DAS BOOT !
Agreed.
This is a great scene! Thanks so much for posting! I absolutely love the scene with the bow shot on the Momo. I hope you can post that one too! 😎🎵🙏🙏🙏
My buddy Mark "owns" a Gato class submarine up in Wisconasin. A road trip and sleep-over for midwestern hahnyaaks is being planned for next year. I plan to recreate scenes from this excellent film and Down Periscope on that occasion. USS Cobia may never be the same!
Perhaps in the quiet of the Lake Michigan night, Ed Ackerman, Dudley Morton, Dangerous Dan Daspit, Sam Dealey, and Dick O'Kane will stop by to tell stories to those that have ears to hear.
So, how's your movie coming along?
Ok weirdo
One thing I learned about this Movie, is that Production company went aboard a Gato Class submarine so that they could build an accurate replicate sets of the Conning tower and other portions of the sub. This set the movie apart from other sub movies at the time.
You should see the interior set for Das Boot,it’s at a museum in Germany. So accurate it’ll make you claustrophobic. How those men could go to see in that tiny,cramped tube is beyond comprehension.
@@fw1421 I saw the interior of U-505 in Chicago. American Subs were definitely bigger and had air conditioning. But both were necessary as the Pacific was a much larger field of Operation.
@@coleparker The U-505 was a Mk IX class U Boat and much bigger than the MkVII that were the mainstay of the German U-Boat fleet. Yea,US Gatos were huge comparatively. Have you been to the US Sub Museum and gone to the Nautilus? A lot of sub but unbelievably cramped. The crew almost had to be midgets to get in their bunks. I’m 5’10” and I don’t think I could lie down in one without bending my knees!
@@fw1421 Yes U-505 was a Type IX C boat and were bigger and capable of reaching the US coast without much trouble as opposed to the smaller Type VIIs. I have never gotten the chance yet to visit, although as a small kid in the 50s and 60s it was point of talk as my father was still in the Navy at the time. But I did get a chance to visit a Skipjack class submarine in 1961 when I lived on Mare Island. BTW, a good book to read about U-boat war is Grey Wolf Grey Sea. It tells the story of U-124 which was a Type IXB class U-boat.
I like watching these old movies and seeing actors starting out as bit players and then becoming stars in their own right by the '60s. The actor wearing the headphones and the actor standing next to Burt.
Great movie, Gable was fading out as lead role, Bert was the new generation of actors.
Gable died in this movie and Bert assumed command, kinda ironic.
Oh, the irony. And thanks for telling us the ending, Casper.
@@sclogse1 the movie is 60+ yrs old
Hope you're kidding
Mush Morton, Dick O'Kane, George Street, Trigger, Seawolf, Tang, great men, great ships.
Don't forget Howard Gilmore and the Growler.
Sam dealey too
And "Hit 'Em Harder!"
Hear hear, and hail to those still on patrol...
Forgot to add, red ramage from my home state.
based on the book Run silent Run Deep. written by a real submarine skipper, Cdr. Edward L. Beach.
Thanks for the Info.
@Steven Wilshusen I read the synopsis and review of the book. From what I read, the book looks real interesting. I will definitely be looking to get a copy of it.
@Steven Wilshusen Thanks
This is the first movie role for Don Trickles,he was a member of the sub crew !!!😎
Don Trickles?
@@bcask61 Don't Wrinkle.
He was also in Kelly's Heros. Maybe his only 2 movies.
@@philipjohnson6662 “Casino”
My Favorite WWII Sub Movie, Got the DVD.
well bless your heart.
"The Boat"....a German film....best one of all as far as a sub movie....
Just watched the whole movie. It's really great.
Clark Gable: DIVE! DIVE!
Best WW2 sub flick, yeah Das Boat fans
They definitely take a good dose of "artistic license" back when they filmed this. In the opening scene a sub gets rammed by a Japanese destroyer while at periscope depth. The scene ends with the crew crawling up onto wooden flotsam. Now we all know that it'd be extremely difficult to find enough wood on a submarine to start a campfire, let alone enough for a bunch of men to float on lol... Oh well, it's still a great classic film...
Burt, one of my favorite actors. Tough but has a kind heart.
I have to give the script writers credit. They used real IJN ship names: Momo was an obsolete destroyer by WWII, and Yukukazi (spelling?) was one of those big 1930s badasses with the 8 or 9 long lance torpedoes and the 6 5inch rifles - Kagero class maybe?
Agakahazi
@@colintraveller looked her up....per Wikipedia, she is Akikazi per the book Run Silent, Run Deep,another just post WWI obsolete destroyer...most of these pre Long Lance destroyers were converted to ASW escorts. Very appropriate for the book...
@@colintraveller found a Yukikazi listed as a Kagero class destroyer...sounds closs to what the actors are saying and she is a modern destroyer that can do the 30 knots Clark Gable mentions and has a single twin 5 inch turret foward like the ship model...this is the one I'm going with....:-) per the movie, and Akikazi per the book....
We're going back.....back to the bungo straights!
Love the movie. Problem though was that Gable was too old to play the part.
Most of that Hollywood crew were to old
@@captnemo2740 Don't disagree.
I liked him. Who would you have picked? Tony Curtis?
@@sclogse1 I am not taking anything away from Clark Gable as an actor. But he was given the role to help boost the audience appeal. Burt Lancaster, who was one of the producers did not really want him that much. No Tony Curtis never would have been considered. He was at that time considered most for light comedy roles. Besides he was in Operation Petticoat.
Decent movie, but the Japanese never adopted convoys for their freighters. US subs picked them off in droves because they were undefended. The Japanese did use convoy tactics to a degree in trying to land troops in Guadalcanal, but virtually never used them to protect their shipping. It was one of their mistakes in the war...among many others.
Actually, they did start a basic convoy system I believe beginning in late 1944 or early 45. The problem they had was that many of the Destroyer captains in the IJN did not want to be tied to such duty. As such the IJN built a class of small escorts called Chidoris to deal with our Subs.
Great movie
Great movie saw it when i young haven't seen it in years
Let's have more clips!
love this movie
U-boats? More like USN subs versus IJN.
This was good movie
L'odyssée du sous-marin "Nerka"! 1956 !
Very Good movie !!!
A young Burt Lancaster before he became a star.
An adult Burt Lancaster at the height of his stardom. This is 12 years after “The Killers”,10 years after “Sorry, Wrong Number, 6 years after “Come Back Little Sheba” 5 years after “From Here To Eternity” (Oscar nomination) and the year after “Gunfight at The OK Corral” and “The Sweet Smell of Success”. Lancaster was 45 when when he made this film.
Why bother to post on subjects you know nothing about?
@@pjk9056 Don't forget The Crimson Pirate.
Running on the surface at high speed, leaving a stern wake visible for miles, and still the Japanese pilots miss. How incompetent???
It's a movie dude...
Jeff, true enough. Even so, a little common sense wouldn't go amiss. I can imagine the USN consultant (usually senior rank i.e. Captain or possibly flag rank) mentioning this and being ignored. Good enough for the cinema audience but not for those who served.
Kevin Duffy dude that’s too small of a detail for most people watching to notice.
@@commondirtbagz7130 Very true Common. Even so... Don't get me wrong, enjoyable enough movie, but little things like this can irritate. I can imagine the author "Edward L Beach " himself a decorated submariner having the same qualms.
Kevin Duffy yeah, and I do understand that for sure. But you have to understand when they made this they probably realized that it would be something only someone as well learned as you would notice and therefore decided to focus efforts on something else, despite a slightly less realistic aesthetic.
Just one example of the superb actor Mr Gable was. One thing I never understood though was John Wayne's very deep and bitter hatred of Mr Gable and any of his roles he performed. Jealousy perhaps?
Clark served in WWII. John was most likely a jealous tart.
Maybe it was something that Clarke had said to him personally .. but i have been seen anything of what you are mentioning .. ever said in any of the numerous people that knew and worked with Duke . It's known that Duke supported has always supported the Military . But it wasn't the Duke's decision that he couldn't or didn't want to serve . It was those who ran the Studios and Army Brass .. that saw the Duke in a more important role .. Where'as Clarke who flew on B17's as a waist gunner . What is your source for that which you speak off ????
@@freddyflintstoned913 I agree. That may explain a large part of the puzzle.
@@colintraveller My sources are different biographical sites on the web. It's interesting to note that I believe it was in Mr. Wayne's film McClintock where a character that looked nearly identical to Clark Gable had an important role. This actor was even dressed identically in an outfit that Mr. Gable wore in one of his famous pictures. Needless to say the character in question was of a nefarious nature and duly humiliated in an important scene. Perhaps that says something of Mr. Wayne's fixation in harming Mr. Gable's image.
What year did this move come out
This was a Great Book, but they screwed it up when they made the movie. How? Read the book. The cast was prefect, but they changed the ending. What's new for Hollywood? They did it for Burt Lancaster, who was a flash in the pan. Clark Gable was the better actor.
Who is name this old film???????????
A Momo is not an Akekaze
what the F...K, movie stops plaiyng after 3 minutes!!!
Yakikaze? Bar-be-cued wind? Really?!?
Akakaze
@@Sh9168 Thanks.
ALARM!!!
Wouldn't ships be able to see the sub?
A low slung dark grey painted submarine hull at night is a HARD target to pick up at night; even with the superb Japanese night optics....
And none of the freighters/tankers had surface search radar and the escorts probably didn't either or the sub would not be attacking on the surface
Not at night. Night surface attacks were a common tactic for both the US and German navies, at least early on. Fell out of favor with the Germans as the allies got better radars on their warships. Japanese never really upgraded.
No "dive dive?"
The clip wasn't long enough. Those subs are faster on the surface rather than underwater. The idea is shoot first then dive.
@@drmayeda1930 DrM.... Got it. Thanks.
That wasn't a dive, it was a surface attack... wtf.
It was taking place at night and was a VERY effective tactic against escorts without surface search radar....the uboats used it a LOT during the 2 "happy times" in 1941 and 1942 till radar equipped escorts made it suicidal....
@@sethkimmel7312 Surface speed for a fleet sub during WW11 was 20-21 kts......submerged only ten kts...and you ran out of battery after 45 min.
Sheisse und verdammpt?
The books was good
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in ww2 them planes could see in the dark what bs
Allied planes were equipped with radar during the war to help them locate German submarines at night. Do not think Japanese planes had radar, though.
Americans didn't even have radar.
All US submarines after 1942 had SJ radar equipped. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SJ_radar
@@davidkaminski615 Maybe so but those map planes must have flying really low to be picked up on surface search radar. I was a radar operator in the navy.
@@cat-lw6kq US submarines were equipped with the SD air search radar early in the war. It was pretty crude- maximum range 6 miles, didn't give direction (used older style A-scope display instead of later PPI) but did give US subs enough warning to dive in time.
@@asnrobert The for that info t read a book about early radar use mostly airborne radar that was used to detect U- Boats at night. I wasn't taught any military history in the Navy.
ClarkGable was too old for the role of an attack boat commander.
At the start of the war, some sub captains were in their mid 40s, as the war went on, the average age went down to early 30's. While I don't know which, I have read that at least two ace skippers were older guys.
@James Henderson The question then would be to find someone who could play the role as well as Clark Gable did.
Why would anybody subscribe to these IDIOTS that doesn't show the full movie and just a shitload of crap!!!
Why would anyone bitch about it like you're doing?
Hpil
Totally unrealistic and nothing more than propaganda. If anyone wants to see reality watch Das Boot black and white in German with subtitles.
Amen.....Das Boot is the only movie made about subs that got it right....
BTW....I qualified on USS Sennet WW408 in Feb of 1960
Worked with a guy who was a sailor on a diesel boat (submarine). He said Das Boot was the most accurate sub movie he had seen.
Good Johann ... good.
Jim Steele das Boot showed the terror and hardship of submariners. No clean uniforms in that movie