Fantastic thanks. Decided to bite the bullet and buy a diesel heater because of this video. I was concerned about buying one as I didn't know how to power and I didn't want to buy cable strippers and multimeters etc. Again thank you!
I'm contemplating the same thing. Funny I actually am using a power supply like this to run my oxalic acid vaporizer which has glow plug in it anyways which is how I thought about this. I've just ordered my heater so I should be getting it soon.
If I buy the 40amp one mark what fuse do I need to put in the plug m8 ? I’m in the uk. So it will be set to the 220volt supply form my house. As I’m look to run to Chinese diesel heaters from it Looking forward to your reply mate
I thought it was recommended that a 12v car leisure battery should be in circuit. The reason being that the heater needs to carry out a shutting down cooling cycle to prevent residual heat melting the control panel should the fan stop prematurely with a power cut. The shut down apparently takes several minutes to dissipate the heat in the combustion chamber.
He didn't say that you had to unplug it before it cycles down. A power failure can happen with DC also. A battery backup is always a good idea, but it still won't know to turn off properly before the battery drains also.
@@bobjones1131 You don’t unplug it. I’ve rigged mine with two relays. One n/o and one n/c from a 12 volt leisure battery and a 20 amp power supply unit. Also an adjustable voltage sensitive relay in the diesel pump feed wire. Normal operation is from the psu through a n/o 12v relay. If there’s a power failure this relay opens and the relay on the battery closes allowing the heater to continue working off the battery. If the battery voltage gets too low then the v. s relay opens and shuts the pump down. The unit carries on with the fan going through the shut down cycle using the battery until everything stops.
@@bobjones1131 it’s cheap and easy to do. The two relays controlling the psu and battery were less than £4 each from a motor factors, and the vs adjustable relay less than a fiver from e bay. Then all you need is the wire and a few clips. I used 1mm for the relay coils and 2.5mm for the heater due to the 10 amp pull of the glow plug. I’m not a sparks but it all seems to work ok. I suppose you could add another relay to automatically charge the leisure battery when it had shut down on low voltage. I’m not sure about that.
Electrical suppliers and hobby stores sell adaptable boxes in many sizes with clear lids or not as desired. This is necessary to make it legal as the 240v termination is exposed with little protection on the power supply terminal strip. Just keep in mind that you will have to drill some holes or install a vent fan cover kit on the box to let the fan breathe and dissipate heat. 🔥
Can use a yellow and black wire on a old computer atx power supply for 12v you do need to reconnect green wire to make it stay on works well I've done two heaters with them
Mark can you send me the link please as it’s not in the description. And will I need a 60amp to run to heaters I’m only asking because I wanted to run to heaters off of the one transformer if possible. I have been looking for ages for one of theses looking forward to your reply m8
How did you get on with the heaters, in theory you can run two easily off this transformer just get one going first as it's the start up that uses the most power then once up to temp after about 5mins it drops way down.
i have the supply and the heater. Now, if the power goes out for whatever reason, is there a UPS you would recommend to keep the power on for at least 30 minutes?
Hi Mark, what is the name of the transformer, and where did you source it, please. I just got the identical heater you have and want to convert from 240v to 12v. Thanks, Andrew.
wow this is awsome!!!! i was just gonna buy this transformer off amazon for 20$ and hope it worked but this answers my concerns...thanks for the info ¨¨¨ALITOVE AC 110V/220V to DC 12V 30A 360W Universal Regulated Switching Power Supply Transformer¨¨¨off amazon i went with the 30A cause it was cheaper
Most have a small adjustment screw to fine tune the output voltage ⚡ Put a multimeter on it or use your heater display in the off mode to show voltage and slowly wind it up to about 12.4 volts DC would be my recommendation as a healthy battery will be sitting at above 12v anyway. Also check the amp rating of the power supply 20A would be the minimum I would use but not much more expensive to go 30A
Hi Mark, almost a year since you put this video on here , Any problems with the transformer ? the reason I ask is there was some negative reviews on Amazon
I bought one after watching this video and tried it on my diesel heater and drops the voltage down at around 8v and then shuts off. I have the same power supply off Amazon.
@@MrMeltedwellies hello I've got a diesel heater like yours mine's a d5 it's rated voltage is 12 volts over 40 Watts heating power is 5 kilowatts. On my transformer it says 12-volt 360 w. Would you know if this is suitable for my heater it looks just like yours on your video any help would be very grateful we are thank you
@@grahamfrear9270 No, the 5kw heaters draw between 10 and 12 amps at 12v when powering up and powering down. With 30 amps available from the power supply you are barely using even half of the available current. Once running the heater will be using in the region of 2 amps. This psu is overkill, which is preferable.
My dieselheater just like yours says .rated voltage./12v/40w.heat output5kw. Model D5. You don't say anything about the watts/voltages on the heater you aren't wiring into transformer. Can anyone tell me if they voltages I've written down will be ok for this transformer thanks if anyone can help. I don't want to burn my diesel heater out if it's overpowered thank you
Thanks for your reply. But I have a new problem with the heater today. Everything seems to power up on the screen. But there is no heat coming from the heater and I can't hear the pump dripping but the screen the pump lights up. The fan firesbut after a while just slows down and goes off would you have any idea what's wrong with it I'm not mechanically you seem to know a lot about these heater problems does light up E10 but I don't know what that means someone says it could be a lot of things E10 I would be very grateful if you knew what it possibly might be thank you Graham
@@grahamfrear9270just a thought, if your using a battery with charger have you enough power in battery, mine started but shut down after a few mins because battery went to low i had,nt charged battery enough
The danger with these type of power supplies is where the 3 mains wires connect - you can physically touch those connections with your fingers - BEWARE!!! My advice would be to put this power supply inside another case to prevent someone touching those contacts.
Thanks, good to know. Your video inspired me to dig one I bought last winter out, relocating the unit, and not needing batteries will sure simplify things.
My heater runs well on 12 Volt battery. When I try with a power adapter 240/12 Volt 5 A it shows on the display error 02 - which means: voltage too high. Does anyone have a clue?
Soldering is against wiring codes. Reason is solder will recrystallise thereby the soldered cable ends will eventually become loose in the terminations and possibly overheat.
@@tkaald I'm not disagreeing with you. Dissimilar metals and/or loose contacts will all have trouble eventually. I just really like to have solder on them also. It especially helps when working with lead acid batteries.
@@supremeautomotive6749 seen the video just now but a lot of concern about the safety and power going back etc. just want a simple safe way to run in my garage
I don't know where Mr Davies learned to solder... Because that was an awful demonstration. Whether that iron was 'accurate' or not, it would undertake a better 'tinning' if the nib was CLEAN and tinned itself. By rights - even with the csa of a standard domestic 13/16A - 3 conductor cable, the bear copper conductor would wick-up that hot solder far quicker with a hot tinned nib in contact. Rule of thumb being, as minimal time spent heating the conductor as possible to avoid melting the insulation, or causing excessive wicking which draws too much solder into the conductor wires. A dirty or corroded nib does not pass thermal energy as well as a cleanly tinned nib, causing the tendency to hold the nib to the conductor for longer causing the latter issue to occur. CLEAN YOUR FECKIN' NIB FFS!
Fantastic thanks. Decided to bite the bullet and buy a diesel heater because of this video. I was concerned about buying one as I didn't know how to power and I didn't want to buy cable strippers and multimeters etc. Again thank you!
I'm contemplating the same thing. Funny I actually am using a power supply like this to run my oxalic acid vaporizer which has glow plug in it anyways which is how I thought about this. I've just ordered my heater so I should be getting it soon.
Worked for me. It kept popping circuits until I watched your video. Thanks from Canada
You're welcome!
Thanks you man this really helpful..
Great video, thanks a lot for the help Appreciated
helped me a lot 👍
What is the voltages on the heater your your wording into the transformer.will it take my 12v/40w.heater 5kw.any help will be appreciated Graham
Hi. What Amp fuse do you use in the power supply plug please?
If I buy the 40amp one mark what fuse do I need to put in the plug m8 ?
I’m in the uk. So it will be set to the 220volt supply form my house. As I’m look to run to Chinese diesel heaters from it
Looking forward to your reply mate
What would be the most cost effective way to get 14v DC 300amp, from 120ac or 240ac?
I thought it was recommended that a 12v car leisure battery should be in circuit. The reason being that the heater needs to carry out a shutting down cooling cycle to prevent residual heat melting the control panel should the fan stop prematurely with a power cut. The shut down apparently takes several minutes to dissipate the heat in the combustion chamber.
He didn't say that you had to unplug it before it cycles down. A power failure can happen with DC also. A battery backup is always a good idea, but it still won't know to turn off properly before the battery drains also.
@@bobjones1131 You don’t unplug it. I’ve rigged mine with two relays. One n/o and one n/c from a 12 volt leisure battery and a 20 amp power supply unit. Also an adjustable voltage sensitive relay in the diesel pump feed wire. Normal operation is from the psu through a n/o 12v relay. If there’s a power failure this relay opens and the relay on the battery closes allowing the heater to continue working off the battery. If the battery voltage gets too low then the v. s relay opens and shuts the pump down. The unit carries on with the fan going through the shut down cycle using the battery until everything stops.
@@tammyjilly Well, that's a good idea💡. You should sell a kit for that.
@@bobjones1131 it’s cheap and easy to do. The two relays controlling the psu and battery were less than £4 each from a motor factors, and the vs adjustable relay less than a fiver from e bay. Then all you need is the wire and a few clips. I used 1mm for the relay coils and 2.5mm for the heater due to the 10 amp pull of the glow plug. I’m not a sparks but it all seems to work ok. I suppose you could add another relay to automatically charge the leisure battery when it had shut down on low voltage. I’m not sure about that.
Hi Mike don’t suppose you could do a video on how you wired the relays in? Want to install this heater but not sure about which way of running it etc
Hi Mark love the videos. So am I right in saying 3 core flex from the transformer to a 3amp mains plug?
Is that correct 3amp fuse in the mains plug? Thank you
Any ideas for a decent case for these? I cant seem to find anything to keep it in that's compact.
Electrical suppliers and hobby stores sell adaptable boxes in many sizes with clear lids or not as desired.
This is necessary to make it legal as the 240v termination is exposed with little protection on the power supply terminal strip.
Just keep in mind that you will have to drill some holes or install a vent fan cover kit on the box to let the fan breathe and dissipate heat. 🔥
What size fuse did you use
Got one, too noisy. Is there 20amp version without a fan?
Thanks for that.
Hi, have you any idea the cost per unit it uses? I was going to use a 12 volt battery and keep a battery charger running, Cheers
Can use a yellow and black wire on a old computer atx power supply for 12v you do need to reconnect green wire to make it stay on works well I've done two heaters with them
Can you explain what you mean for the green wire and how you wire the yellow and black... which is positive and ground, etc?
@@chorritosvwgarage736 yellow positive, black ground, Green needs to be connected with black.
What’s On the other side of this cable you connect ?
Mark can you send me the link please as it’s not in the description. And will I need a 60amp to run to heaters I’m only asking because I wanted to run to heaters off of the one transformer if possible. I have been looking for ages for one of theses looking forward to your reply m8
How did you get on with the heaters, in theory you can run two easily off this transformer just get one going first as it's the start up that uses the most power then once up to temp after about 5mins it drops way down.
Great video Mark have you the so I can order
Hi I can't find the link for the power supply, great video by the way
Hi Mark, I'm coming a bit late to this party but thanks for such a clear explanation; it's much appreciated.
Glad it was helpful! Paul
Do you have to put a inline fuse from transformer to heater ? Thanks Steve
I believe that most heaters are shipped with a fuse in the plus line.
i have the supply and the heater. Now, if the power goes out for whatever reason, is there a UPS you would recommend to keep the power on for at least 30 minutes?
Ebay
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tecnoware-1100va-1-1KVA-UPS-battery-back-up-power-supply/164163035452?hash=item2638e1213c:g:s6MAAOSwNIhemB6M
Just add a deep cycle battery in line powered by a battery charger
Hi Mark, what is the name of the transformer, and where did you source it, please. I just got the identical heater you have and want to convert from 240v to 12v. Thanks, Andrew.
AC 100-240V to DC 12V 30A 360W Voltage Transformer Switch Power Supply Converter
type this in ebay
Thanks Mark, I sourced the very one you told me about.
Cheers,
Andrew.
Do you have a link to the transformer? Or at least the specifications?
Hi there I've got the same unit I tried the diesel heater on it but power cuts out as soon as I press on . On the heater controller
Re check the wiring if ok then faulty unit
I think it's the power unit as fan comes on as soon as plugged in and cuts out when any power drawn
Hi. Would a 20A be sufficient for a Chinese heater?
Yeah. They all use 16 or less
wow this is awsome!!!! i was just gonna buy this transformer off amazon for 20$ and hope it worked but this answers my concerns...thanks for the info
¨¨¨ALITOVE AC 110V/220V to DC 12V 30A 360W Universal Regulated Switching Power Supply Transformer¨¨¨off amazon i went with the 30A cause it was cheaper
Will 1mm cable do
Hi Mark, is it safe to leave a 240v to 12v transformer switched on nonstop
i have Andrew seems ok doesn't overheat at all
I tried this but it started dropping to 8v not sure if it was faulty or if its something else got a error code e01
Sounds faulty
Most have a small adjustment screw to fine tune the output voltage ⚡
Put a multimeter on it or use your heater display in the off mode to show voltage and slowly wind it up to about 12.4 volts DC would be my recommendation as a healthy battery will be sitting at above 12v anyway.
Also check the amp rating of the power supply 20A would be the minimum I would use but not much more expensive to go 30A
Thankyou!!!!!!
Hi Mark i have seen those transformers but how do i know which one for my diesel heater? ie there are different wattage units
don't think so 240v to 12v works fine
@@MrMeltedwellies yes but they are all 12v to 240v but it's the wattage some are 360 watt some are 250watt some are less
@@mginbolton
I just ordered the 360 one today should be okay I think
30 quid
@@chloe19815 yeah mine turned up today wired up works perfectly
Hi Mark, almost a year since you put this video on here , Any problems with the transformer ? the reason I ask is there was some negative reviews on Amazon
Hi Jon nope still going strong used all through the winter at least 5 times a week
I bought one after watching this video and tried it on my diesel heater and drops the voltage down at around 8v and then shuts off. I have the same power supply off Amazon.
Hello where is the link, thx
@@MrMeltedwellies hello I've got a diesel heater like yours mine's a d5 it's rated voltage is 12 volts over 40 Watts heating power is 5 kilowatts. On my transformer it says 12-volt 360 w. Would you know if this is suitable for my heater it looks just like yours on your video any help would be very grateful we are thank you
Do you have the link for the 12v transformer for the Chinese heater power please? Thanks
ALITOVE AC 110V/220V to DC 12V 30A 360W Universal Regulated Switching Power Supply Transformer.....
@@halfpinthomestead9482 what kilowatts???? Mine's 5 kw. Is 5 kW to a high for this transformer??
@@grahamfrear9270 No, the 5kw heaters draw between 10 and 12 amps at 12v when powering up and powering down. With 30 amps available from the power supply you are barely using even half of the available current. Once running the heater will be using in the region of 2 amps. This psu is overkill, which is preferable.
Hi Mark , can you tell me what amp fuse you used for the mains connection ?
3amp
Hey Mark, i am sorry i can't find the link. Could you please share link for the power supply.
sorry for late reply 😊
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/385421084151?
Hi ! can this handle a webasto thermo top C ???
It should Tudor
@@MrMeltedwellies can i have your email? I have a problem with the power supply
why you take 30 A if this heater requires only 9-10 A on startup (120w) and 40w on running ?
So you can run multiple things, such as another heater or a light, which he mentioned...
If no supply like this, what power supply can be used, if using on a home power supply. There must be a way?
car battery
What's the purpose of these power supply's. Can I just run mine direct to a 12v battery? Thanks in advance
i run my other heater from battery
I bought a converter from 12 volt to 110 and I'm getting an error code too much voltage e- 02
My dieselheater just like yours says .rated voltage./12v/40w.heat output5kw. Model D5. You don't say anything about the watts/voltages on the heater you aren't wiring into transformer. Can anyone tell me if they voltages I've written down will be ok for this transformer thanks if anyone can help. I don't want to burn my diesel heater out if it's overpowered thank you
AC 100-240V to DC 12V 30A 360W Voltage Transformer Switch Power Supply Converter
Thanks for your reply. But I have a new problem with the heater today. Everything seems to power up on the screen. But there is no heat coming from the heater and I can't hear the pump dripping but the screen the pump lights up. The fan firesbut after a while just slows down and goes off would you have any idea what's wrong with it I'm not mechanically you seem to know a lot about these heater problems does light up E10 but I don't know what that means someone says it could be a lot of things E10 I would be very grateful if you knew what it possibly might be thank you Graham
@@MrMeltedwellies by the way I got no instructions with my heater. I left another message
No one .has any ideas what it could be.thanks anyway 🇬🇧
@@grahamfrear9270just a thought, if your using a battery with charger have you enough power in battery, mine started but shut down after a few mins because battery went to low i had,nt charged battery enough
The danger with these type of power supplies is where the 3 mains wires connect - you can physically touch those connections with your fingers - BEWARE!!!
My advice would be to put this power supply inside another case to prevent someone touching those contacts.
Good point
How’d that transformer hold up?
still going strong
Thanks, good to know. Your video inspired me to dig one I bought last winter out, relocating the unit, and not needing batteries will sure simplify things.
Hi Mark great video just ordered one off these what fuse did you put in plug and did you have a in line fuse to heater
I don't see a link ????
My heater runs well on 12 Volt battery. When I try with a power adapter 240/12 Volt 5 A it shows on the display error 02 - which means: voltage too high. Does anyone have a clue?
Can I use this power supply to charge my car battery
always have the earth wire longer than the other two.
Soldering is against wiring codes. Reason is solder will recrystallise thereby the soldered cable ends will eventually become loose in the terminations and possibly overheat.
This isn't in the house's wiring. This is an electrical device/appliance. Probably doesn't apply as you stated ?
Whether house wiring or not, soldered cable ends will still recrystallise and become loose in screw clamp terminations causing overheating, fire etc.
@@tkaald I'm not disagreeing with you. Dissimilar metals and/or loose contacts will all have trouble eventually. I just really like to have solder on them also. It especially helps when working with lead acid batteries.
Would have a concern if you get a power outage. Hopfully never happen
Hookup a battery to the 12v side and it will always be charged for when power goes out.
Battery will take over when power goes out
@@supremeautomotive6749 just hook up a battery along with the pos and. Negative from the transformer?
@@ianwynhughes93 yes check on my UA-cam channel i made a video of doing it
@@supremeautomotive6749 seen the video just now but a lot of concern about the safety and power going back etc. just want a simple safe way to run in my garage
I don't know where Mr Davies learned to solder... Because that was an awful demonstration.
Whether that iron was 'accurate' or not, it would undertake a better 'tinning' if the nib was CLEAN and tinned itself.
By rights - even with the csa of a standard domestic 13/16A - 3 conductor cable, the bear copper conductor would wick-up that
hot solder far quicker with a hot tinned nib in contact.
Rule of thumb being, as minimal time spent heating the conductor as possible to avoid melting the insulation, or causing excessive wicking which draws too much solder into the conductor wires. A dirty or corroded nib does not pass thermal energy as well as a cleanly tinned nib, causing the tendency to hold the nib to the conductor for longer causing the latter issue to occur.
CLEAN YOUR FECKIN' NIB FFS!
how to adjust the voltage?? and how do you know that you're in the correct voltage?? should i use tester??
yes