ASUS ROG ALLY: The Ultimate $699 Steam Deck Rival?

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  • @Qasim_Mahmood
    @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +8

    Thanks for watching! If you have a Steam Deck and you're thinking about upgrading your internal SSD, click here to check out my ultimate guide: ua-cam.com/video/i-CU0qud-cg/v-deo.html

  • @logangagnier8937
    @logangagnier8937 Рік тому +1

    mann i’m stuck on these two. always wanted a gaming pc but the cost kept me away. especially cause i have a ps5 for games and a mac for college it would feel a little redundant. then i discovered the steam deck and the rog ally. they seem like the perfect, cheap entry point to pc gaming and the great deals on steam. along with the perfect way to satisfy my desire for a handheld to take me back to my childhood. also to be able to play some xbox only games with my friends, some pc exclusives i’ve never tried, modding, and emulation

  • @powerhouse884
    @powerhouse884 Рік тому +11

    This is all i wanted, Windows support for all games. Better screen, better speakers, EGPU supports for couch gaming. I can use my external NVME from my PC to the Ally or the Laptop…. No reformatting required either.
    The price was never a concern for better performance. I am glad ASUS came to the market which was flooded by SteamDeck fanboys specially on Reddit.

    • @TalonsRebellion
      @TalonsRebellion Рік тому +2

      good and bad news about the egpu, there is one! It's their proprietary product though that is a bit pricey.

    • @powerhouse884
      @powerhouse884 Рік тому +4

      @@TalonsRebellion Is not bad cuz the cable is PCIe base (same as standard PC’s) giving more power than an eGPUs with Thunderbolt 4.
      If it was Thunderbolt Yes you could use other 3rd party eGPUs but those are much bigger and will bottleneck the performance. If Nintendo did this with the SWITCH i can guarantee nobody would complain and it wouldn’t work with anything else as well.

    • @TalonsRebellion
      @TalonsRebellion Рік тому +3

      @@powerhouse884 My only issue is how jacked the price is. It's sometimes double the price of the GPU if not more. I'm also not sure you can put a new GPU in their product either so you'll always have to spend more money than you should. If that is the case, I'll probably only get the older gen GPUs to save on money.

    • @powerhouse884
      @powerhouse884 Рік тому +3

      @@TalonsRebellion Do you know the cost of a 4090 gpu? 4090 laptops cost 4k$…
      You can choose the lower tier but don’t expect the best PC performance.

    • @TalonsRebellion
      @TalonsRebellion Рік тому +3

      @@powerhouse884 An EGPU isn't a laptop. It's a GPU in an enclosure. It shouldn't be the price of a laptop.

  • @ruzaroos
    @ruzaroos Рік тому +6

    Just wanted to say your image clarity, lighting, and recording space are well done. I wish you all the best with this channel.

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +2

      Thank you so much, I really appreciate it!

  • @Suppence
    @Suppence Рік тому +7

    Ive been saving for a deck cause I really want one now I'm seeing this not sure which I would wanna get now

    • @chrisc2252
      @chrisc2252 Рік тому +6

      Asus is the superior choice. No point paying cash for the Deck if its outdated by the Rog Ally 👍

    • @trikster22
      @trikster22 Рік тому +4

      i've been gamer since 2005.. get this instead of steam deck

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +4

      If you're still saving, then definitely hold out for a couple of weeks at least. When it launches we'll see how good it actually is, as well as how expensive it is, and then you can make a more informed choice

    • @Suppence
      @Suppence Рік тому +2

      @@Qasim_Mahmood ah thanks for the suggestion and great video!

    • @smidlee7747
      @smidlee7747 Рік тому +3

      It all depends what you want to play. If you like more PC games designed around keyboard and mouse on the go get the Deck. If you want to play more modern games with high graphics go for the Ally. I rather play games with good graphics on my desktop hooked up to my 65" TV while play strategy games and indy titles on a handheld which looks as good on a 7" screen as my TV like Dead Cell, Hades , Xcom2 , emulation, etc
      The Deck is designed to play more variety of PC games especially designed around a keyboard and mouse. It has virtual menus as hotkeys and track pads as mouse inputs.
      I'm hoping Valve will release Steam Controller 2 soon.

  • @obaidashrafmir
    @obaidashrafmir Рік тому +4

    Assalamualaikum, i just got a steam deck a few days back.. do you think i made a mistake and should have waited for the Ally??

    • @GraphicalRanger
      @GraphicalRanger Рік тому +3

      Never a mistake imho, Steam Deck can play a huge library of games really well. Just dependent on how many of the very latest games you possibility want to play.

    • @harithnerd
      @harithnerd Рік тому +3

      Like our Din, stick to the majority [for handheld gaming]. SteamDeck! This Asus Ally is a new sect! Remember Asus makes pretty crap software so i don't have high hopes. I prefer Valve's SteamOS [plus they have been at this steamOS software project for over 8+ years). Lets see the iFixt teardown and if they offer parts to fix. I also don't want to see new models every 6 months (like their asus chromebooks, etc).

    • @chrisc2252
      @chrisc2252 Рік тому +6

      I personally would send the steam deck back as this rog ally will easily out perform the steam deck with ease. Asus are a well known company with excelent hardware and software already so the support will be there 👍

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +2

      Waalaykum assalaam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh bro! Thing is, it depends on a bunch of things. How much are you willing to spend, and are you willing to deal with the issues that come with a first generation product? Honestly, for the price, the Steam Deck is still the best value gaming handheld, plus it has a great community and ecosystem. We'll have to see how ASUS support the ROG ALLY before making any decisions. Personally, I'd stick with the Steam Deck - it's still a great machine

    • @smidlee7747
      @smidlee7747 Рік тому +2

      If you want to play high graphical AAA titles on a 7" screen or you don't already have a gaming laptop/ desktop to play these games on a larger screen then you want to get the Ally for sure.
      I rather play games with high graphics on my desktop with a 65" TV instead of a 7" inch handheld and play indy games as well as PC games designed for a keyboard and mouse on a handheld. In that case the Steam Deck is better as it is design to play PC games designed around a keyboard and mouse. You can have virtual menus for hotkeys and track pads as mouse. Games like Xcom 2, Battle Brothers , Dead Cells, Vampire Survivors ,Hades ,etc look as good on a 7" screen as my 65" screen while playing games with amazing graphics seems like a waste to play on a 7" inch screen. It still nice to have the option to play on the go though.

  • @hammy316
    @hammy316 Рік тому +2

    Will this be able to handle warzone 2 and what fps do you think I can get out of it

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +3

      That's a great question, unfortunately I have no idea. The Z1 and Z1 Extreme are very new chips, and even the chips they're based off are brand new, so we don't have much data to go off

    • @applehazeva2739
      @applehazeva2739 Рік тому +3

      Well the Z1 is like stronger than PS4 Pro Level (maybe even stronger than the Xbox One X)

  • @Sayject
    @Sayject Рік тому +2

    Salaam brotha! The ally looks awesome and I didn’t buy the steam deck yet. But I’m planning on getting a deck very soon, the deck is just better to me in many ways and I feel like the grip will be better. Also I wish the ally was offered in black but that’s just me haha, anyway great vid and looking forward to more from you!

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +2

      Waalaykum assalaam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh bro! Yeahh I know what you mean, the Steam Deck seems wayyy more ergonomic to hold, and honestly the ecosystem is pretty mature at this point so it's not a bad shout at all. Thanks for the kind words bro!

  • @harroldamilcar3760
    @harroldamilcar3760 Рік тому +3

    Great video, everything that needed to be said was said. Subbing

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +2

      Thank you so much for the kind words, mate!

  • @frankconsidine5989
    @frankconsidine5989 Рік тому +2

    The track pads and making your own customized controller layouts is pretty fantastic

    • @amit_patel654
      @amit_patel654 Рік тому +2

      Not to mention how modular the internals are. I love the fact that pretty much any of the components can be swapped out. It's not as easy to do on other handhelds.

    • @frankconsidine5989
      @frankconsidine5989 Рік тому +2

      @@amit_patel654 for sure brother

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +3

      Very true! The customisation options are incredible, and the fact that it's so modular means it's so easy to customise literally anything about the Steam Deck

    • @andrewabbate858
      @andrewabbate858 Рік тому

      @@Qasim_Mahmoodagreed…valve optimization through steamOS and the community delivers on all fronts!

  • @Xt660xmike
    @Xt660xmike Рік тому +1

    We must dock tv buy?

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +2

      I don't think so! I think any USB hub should work, just like the Steam Deck

  • @ahmedaldarwish9102
    @ahmedaldarwish9102 Рік тому +9

    Thank you for the informative vid. I ordered the Steam Deck after watching a lot of youtubers talking about it and the Ally.
    I think the 700$ works depending on your personal use. If you wanna run triple AAA games at full capacity, the price is worth it. But then again, personally, I have my gaming desktop PC for that. I only need the SD for lighter games.

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +3

      I completely agree! $700 for a portable handheld console is a lot of money, and isn't really worth it if you already have a dedicated gaming PC. Even if you don't, you could spend almost half as much and just buy a base Steam Deck. Still though, hopefully the base ROG ALLY is even cheaper than $700

    • @6fky330
      @6fky330 Рік тому

      غلطان والله ذا رهيب

    • @ahmedaldarwish9102
      @ahmedaldarwish9102 Рік тому

      @@6fky330
      اهلي يالغالي.
      والله احس على حسب استخدامك الشخصي. اذا تبي تشغل Triple A عليه، اكيد الAlly بدون ما اطالع، لكن اذا تبي شيء رخيص وتلعب عليه العاب الخفيفة وبنفس الوقت يعطيك customization عالي، الستيم بصراحة خيار ممتاز.

  • @uclapac10
    @uclapac10 Рік тому +1

    No update can fix the location of the sd card slot on the motherboard.

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +1

      True! And in hindsight you're probably right - the reports on frying SD cards haven't gotten any better

  • @thehaffytaffy
    @thehaffytaffy Рік тому +2

    Also, I’ve heard that Microsoft are working on new Steamdeck UI . Which is awesome!

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +1

      Oooh that should be sick! Really looking forward to it

  • @TalonsRebellion
    @TalonsRebellion Рік тому +3

    "you'll never be able to reach 120hz"
    That's why they offer a proprietary EGPU so you can.

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +3

      Sure, but they're seriously overpriced and the proprietary connector doesn't help at all. It's nice it's an option, but it could be so much better

    • @TalonsRebellion
      @TalonsRebellion Рік тому +2

      @@Qasim_Mahmood very true.

  • @Handheld_TECH
    @Handheld_TECH Рік тому +1

    Nice video bro 😊 Very interesting.

  • @joker10064
    @joker10064 Рік тому +5

    Entry model 699$
    The other will cost 899$
    Hence not being 1000$

    • @lg1228
      @lg1228 Рік тому +3

      Z1 extreme is the $699, he's getting this info from a leak which was a screenshot of an accidental listing by bestbuy not too long ago which specifically said the z1 extreme version was $699.

    • @hammy316
      @hammy316 Рік тому +2

      @@lg1228 if that’s the case that’s a bargain

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +5

      As LG 122 mentioned, the more expensive model will be $699, the base model will obviously be cheaper. How much cheaper is still up in the air, but I'm hoping for $550. $599 is more likely though

    • @applehazeva2739
      @applehazeva2739 Рік тому +4

      @@Qasim_Mahmood I would be SOOOOOOOO Motivated to get one

  • @rawdiggitydog
    @rawdiggitydog Рік тому +1

    You can use that 120hz for streaming as well. Its already something i do with my razer edge. If you have a strong PC and good connection its useful as well. Also not everyone plays AAA games. Some people play indies which could also make use of it. I dont understand why we are saying a higher refresh screen is a negative...

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +1

      That is very true, never even thought of that! It's a great point, and tbh it's not the fact that 120Hz is a negative, I think it's mostly just a marketing gimmick. As I said, most people will be playing games natively and may just assume they'll get 120fps right off the bat, which ain't happening

  • @durrahshehwar8152
    @durrahshehwar8152 Рік тому +1

    Nice video bro and nice presentation.Assalamalikum brother❤

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +1

      Waalaykum assalaam wa rahmatUllahi wa barakatuh brother! Thank you for the kind words ♥

  • @chrisp.9069
    @chrisp.9069 Рік тому +2

    I already have a 3080 xg moble because I have a z13 flow so I will be getting the ally day one!

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +1

      That's so cool bro! How much did it cost you, out of interest?

    • @chrisp.9069
      @chrisp.9069 Рік тому +2

      @@Qasim_Mahmood I got it on sale last year for around $1000

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +2

      That's a solid price! How's it performing for you? Must be pretty great to play with a 3080 on the big screen

    • @chrisp.9069
      @chrisp.9069 Рік тому +1

      @@Qasim_Mahmood I am about to max out setting on pretty much every game I own at 4K

  • @gameandbros5462
    @gameandbros5462 Рік тому +8

    Competitor? sure. Killer? No.

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +3

      💯 It's great competition, but there's no way it's killing the Steam Deck

    • @brandont7214
      @brandont7214 Рік тому +6

      who cares if it kills it or not? Just be happy were getting great handhelds at all

    • @Juann-rn9ci
      @Juann-rn9ci Рік тому +2

      Actually Steam will benefit from the ROG Ally as this is another PC where people will use Steam.

    • @lodoss118
      @lodoss118 Рік тому +3

      I suspect dell will also release their alienware handheld now

    • @gameandbros5462
      @gameandbros5462 Рік тому +2

      @@lodoss118 I'm all for it. This form factor should be selling and competing against laptops in the gaming market space. I plan on getting a Deck for my birthday. I never had a PC strong enough to gaming on so I'm pretty excited.

  • @ajluke1001
    @ajluke1001 Рік тому +2

    Wonder if it will be offered in Black......

    • @trikster22
      @trikster22 Рік тому +2

      I'll offer u my black

    • @powerhouse884
      @powerhouse884 Рік тому +4

      DBrand Skin

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +2

      Hopefully! I love the white, but it'll definitely get dirty pretty quickly

    • @catchwreck928
      @catchwreck928 Рік тому

      @@Qasim_Mahmood RACIST

    • @Sayject
      @Sayject Рік тому +1

      Me hoping for the black too 😅😅

  • @ozkanbuyukbasiceman6990
    @ozkanbuyukbasiceman6990 Рік тому +1

    Can you play the aly with a keyboard mouse? Because you can't use the Asus phones 5,6,7, because Asus no longer sells dock systems for them. There is only one docking system compatible with the gamegenie asus phones, the Asus Professional dock. You can't buy the asus professional dock anywhere. totally annoying, I really want to play with the keyboard mouse

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +1

      That's a great question! I assume, just like the Steam Deck, you should literally just be able to plug in any old USB hub and it should work. I don't see why you'd have to buy a specific dock

  • @skyfigurefun
    @skyfigurefun Рік тому +1

    Saving money for rog ally right now 😮🎉🎉

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +2

      Nice! Did you buy one in the end?

    • @skyfigurefun
      @skyfigurefun Рік тому

      @@Qasim_Mahmood noo getting aokzeo a1 for 620$ instead

  • @Wol1verine
    @Wol1verine Рік тому +4

    Cool shirt.

  • @law4327
    @law4327 Рік тому +4

    I don't like SteamOS. I've got games on epic and gog. And getting some working is a pain. Also maybe something like atlas is would be helpful dealing with the bloat.

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +2

      True, it is a bit of a pain, but overall I think SteamOS is incredible. It's really pushed the envelope for Linux gaming, and it's the reason all these companies are taking handheld consoles seriously. A lot of ASUS's tweaks to Windows are taken directly from SteamOS

  • @Kinos141
    @Kinos141 Рік тому +2

    Not impressed for the Ally. 1080p means nothing when the screen is small, and Windows is terrible for gaming, even though it's the only real option for gaming.
    Steam Deck has a dedicated game mode to reduce consumption meaning the game runs better; even though the device is weaker , it runs better.

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +2

      That's true! They'll have a LOT of optimisation to do to make the ROG ALLY competitive, and being on Windows only makes things harder. Plus, as you said, at lower TDP the Steam Deck will still reign supreme

    • @andrewabbate858
      @andrewabbate858 Рік тому

      @@Qasim_Mahmoodagreed…steamOS optimization solidifies the win for deck and community/support for valve is the icing on the cake

  • @thehaffytaffy
    @thehaffytaffy Рік тому +2

    You can have all the best specs in the world but you can’t beat the steam community ❤️ #steamdeckforthewin

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +1

      Very true bro! The Steam Deck community is incredible - love you guys so much ❤️

  • @gabinidal6908
    @gabinidal6908 Рік тому +1

    Im so glad ive waited and didnt waste my money on a deck 😊

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +1

      Haha the Steam Deck is still a great buy tbh! Did you get a ROG ALLY in the end?

    • @gabinidal6908
      @gabinidal6908 Рік тому

      Im waiting for the legion.. the deck imo is underpowered.. id rather invest on a hanheld that can consistently do 60fps gaming.

  • @XBASS247
    @XBASS247 Рік тому +1

    You no it still too much money ,the uk price plus vat going be a killer

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +2

      Hmm normally the price in dollars is almost exactly the price in pounds. After conversion and VAT, it's almost always a very similar number. So I'd still say we'd be looking at about £699 for the Z1 Extreme ROG ALLY

  • @51N5
    @51N5 Рік тому

    This is a Switch 1 and 2 killer. With the rise of the PC handheld market, there's basically no need to buy Nintendo handhelds ever again; you can emulate all Nintendo games on them, and there's no need to buy 3rd party games (like Doom Eternal, NieR Automata, etc) on Nintendo handhelds ever again.
    Meanwhile, when it comes to actually buying and playing games on the ROG Ally, most people are going to use Steam, because Steam is unequivocally the best PC gaming platform in terms of features and community. I don't think many people actually buy games on EGS; they mostly just use EGS for weekly freebies, Fortnite and the occasional exclusive. And despite Microsoft's best efforts, Game Pass is never going to dominate PC gaming, because PC gamers care about things like mods, features and flexibility options that Game Pass will always lack.
    As someone who wants to see Nintendo's hold of the handheld market challenged, I want all handheld PC's to succeed and sell well. I want to see this market one day reach the total of 100 million units sold, and that isn't going to happen with just the Steam Deck, but the combined sales of all handheld PC's.
    As for the Steam Deck, I think so long as Valve continues to sell a £350 handheld, they'll always have the best one on the market in terms of price to performance. But I do think it's time for Valve to release a "Steam Deck Pro" or at least a "Steam Deck Mini". I love the Steam Deck, but let's be honest, it does look very "Gen 1", and is in need of a visual upgrade. It's been out for over a year now, which is about the same amount of time between the Nintendo DS phat and DS Lite - and look at the massive design difference between those two.
    The Rog Ally is the best thing to ever happen to the Steam Deck: iron sharpens iron, and future Steam Decks are only going to get better as a result. And most importantly, the customer wins, because Valve will likely continue to focus on pricing theirs competitively.
    Prior to this, there was talk about how the $650 Steam Deck was the most popular, and there was a fear that Valve would phase out the $399 model, and only sell the Deck at around $650+. The Rog Ally keeps them in check, and reminds them how important it is to have a model that's sold at around $399.

  • @geoffreyjohnstone5465
    @geoffreyjohnstone5465 Рік тому +1

    The Z1 Extreme model for $700? I done think that will happen. Valve make cash because they get 30% of every Steam game sale......Asus have nothing after the hardware to even sell it to break even. $900+ I reckon but I hope I am wrong

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +2

      Honestly I know what you mean, I was also very skeptical. That being said, ASUS are a HUGE player in the hardware space, and they could have done a massive bulk order. I have no clue how many they'd have to order to get the price this low, but they could be gearing up to use it in their laptops as well. I doubt this is a loss leader for them because, as you say, they have no other way to make up the losses, unlike Valve

    • @geoffreyjohnstone5465
      @geoffreyjohnstone5465 Рік тому

      @@Qasim_Mahmood
      I hope you are right Qasim but nothing in Asus's history suggests they are this benevolent. Valve are not an insignificant player in the gaming market and they were not making money on the top tier 512gb Steam Deck so I just cant see how a faster machine with a vastly improved screen can make money at just $50 more. This is going to be faster than GPD, Aya Neo, Aokzoe etc handhelds and they cant get a price point below $900. Maybe, like you suggest, Asus are hoping to sell enough units to make it worth while but the numbers needed might just start the whole chip shortage problem all over again

  • @X862go
    @X862go Рік тому +2

    ROG ALY 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @GraphicalRanger
    @GraphicalRanger Рік тому +3

    Finding that SteamOS actually runs some older games better then Windows but hey I run always put Windows on MicroSD for the problematic games.

    • @obaidashrafmir
      @obaidashrafmir Рік тому +2

      Do you face any serious issues with windows on deck? and did you follow a particulat video or guide to set it up??

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +2

      Interesting! Yeah Proton is phenomenal, and has really improved recently. Plus it's easier to emulate retro games on Linux anyway, maybe because of the lack of extra background processes

  • @vsighi
    @vsighi Рік тому +1

    ...Is just hardware man!

  • @EricHernandez.
    @EricHernandez. Рік тому +2

    Sorry goodbye steam deck 😢

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +1

      Hahaha we'll have to see! But this is definitely incredible competition

    • @andrewabbate858
      @andrewabbate858 Рік тому

      Haha this won’t age well

  • @5scbasher17
    @5scbasher17 Рік тому

    Keep you video in your country

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +3

      Again, thanks for the comment! I'm just uploading to UA-cam, there's no way to limit videos (for most people, as far as I know) to specific countries. Plus, I was born and brought up in London, UK so I'm just as British as anyone else

    • @yoelwalas5828
      @yoelwalas5828 Рік тому

      @@Qasim_Mahmood Do not take to heart the stupid things that some people can write. You are doing a great job

  • @Nachobeerman
    @Nachobeerman Рік тому +2

    Steam deck is dead

    • @Sayject
      @Sayject Рік тому +1

      Am, am, hm, unfortunately I don’t think so 😅

    • @Qasim_Mahmood
      @Qasim_Mahmood  Рік тому +2

      Hahaha I think "dead" is a bit much, at low TDP and at lower prices, the entry level Steam Deck will still reign supreme

    • @Sayject
      @Sayject Рік тому

      @@Qasim_Mahmood I feel like the steam deck can never die. $400, man that a steal for what that device can do! Ordered one yesterday can I can’t wait to receive!!!!