Royal Marine Reacts To Nordic Response 24
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There is a funny quote from a Finnish soldier that was interviewed in 2022 by the Sun. "Once you go to Helsinki & you go to buy a pack of cigarettes from R-kioski or a grocery store. The person selling those cigarettes to you, he knows how to shoot with bazooka." I love my Finnish neighbors 😂
As a Finnish reserve soldier, I'm so effing jello for the people who got to join this exercise. This is exactly the stuff I wanted to do when I started my military
well then go on... now we want to know what you did on the day to day and what your training stuff was like with just the swenskis... also... did your training ever involved eesti chaps?.....story time with the finn.... were waiting
Part of the reason why i ended up re-enlisting two years after i completed my conscription service. Got tired of sitting on my ass, waiting for meaningful stuff to happen. So i went out to look for 'em. It's actually quite funny to think ive been to overseas as a reservist, granted as an active duty one. I always imagined those kinds of trips would happen only if you went for the right branch to do your military service in.
ilman sun tyyppisiä ihmisä meil ei olis sotia
@@Rasmanni eikä vapautta. Kiitos sun tyylisten trollien joka maassa on armeija, oma tai toisten
As a Swedish non-conscript, so am I.
I was in the Swedish 19th infantry regiment in Boden, i would have been sooooo excited beeing appart of this and more. Was part of the Swedish lock in the north. Norrbottensbrigaden. 🇸🇪
Finland and Sweden are getting new rifles this year! (Norway?) And new helmets.. :) The Brand is Sako.. And the brand of the helmets is Galvion..
A friend was there with the German Gebirgsjäger (Mountain Infantry) and he was pretty happy afterwards and had so much great stories to tell about our old and new allies from Nato.
7:35 Ski towing like this can be surprisingly difficult with those military skis and all the gear on. Especially on hills. But it was really fun training.
I am 70 years old and I never expected to see this happen and it is great that this is happening
I am almost your age. I must comment that from the European point of view the development in Russian has been deeply disappointing after the potentially more positive development after USSR. Of course it hasn't been the only disappointment, but obviously the most directly relevant one.
Having to building more military power to protect from invasions from imperialistic nationalistic countries is difficult to see in a very positive light. Having to do what needs to be done is more miserable than positive.
@@just42tube Not really... Putin talks big and pretends that he can put up a fight as an invader of Europe, he can't... Ukraine has managed to survive so far with limited Western support. Putin knows that if he invades a NATO country entitled than more than just some symbolic Ukraine support he will not only lose face, he will pay with his own life.
Forgotten Weapons channel has videos of the Finnish RK62 and RK95. RK62 he even disassembles to show the inner workings. RK is short for Rynnäkkökivääri finnish for Assault Rifle and 62 is the year it started to be mass produced so its literally just Assault Rifle 62.
Yeah the names we give to things is something else😂
As a Finnish reserve soldier I just don't understand why they use snowshoes when walking on a trail on packed snow... 😅
There were other than finns also? Just learning. We use just skees?
@@kessu27 In the video there are soldiers from different NATO countries as well as the US Marines, to which I referred in my comment, if that's what you were asking for. And yes, we just use skis, combat boots and rubber boots. 😁
just how the get used to them
@@zqor5008 Walking with snowshoes isn't very difficult if you know how to walk at all... 😁 They just make you very slow and an easy target. It would be better to train skiing instead.
@@hmmm9806 well its different when there is 1meter now and uphill , u cant use skies for that :D
Currently there is ongoing Arrow24 training with UK. Seen daily Apaches flying over my house. Some good photos has been taken... Those Apaches are stationed on Tampere Pirkkala airport and they fly straight over this area where I live when they go to harash some Finnish tank crews on Niinisalo training area.
The army tends to use the term “Fi”. The hypothetical enemy. Could be anything. But… (points east)
The yellow army could come from any direction, but somehow the firing locations always headed East.
Those winter trainings looks cool in a video but they arent much fun if you are outside all the time with temperaturs around -20°C, wet socks, wet gloves wet everything 😅
It's a bit bragging since Norway already has fully switched to F35 . The exercise lasted through March and April 2022 and was led by the Norwegian Armed Forces' operational headquarters (FOH). The first allied troops arrived in Norway in the autumn and winter of 2021-22 to train and prepare for the exercise. The military activity mainly took place in south-east Norway, central Norway and parts of northern Norway.
Greetings from one of the cities of Nordic Response 😊
My unit was the first to be allowed to be in Cold Response (other name for it) for the shortest time being in the army (about 3 months). Depending on the area it is in, the temperatur will hit below -30 C
Do you Ex British soldier know, that almost every male in Finland got military training?
So close to half a mil mate! Been watching you since like 100k subs… Congrats Original!!
Finland uses an AK-47 variant that's domestically designed, Israel used this variant as a basis to create the Galil.
Sweden uses an FN FNC variant (the FNC didn't sell much)
Reliable in all conditions, jamming rate close to zero; a bit heavy but like a friend that never lets you down.
@@Finland-SkiTeam39-40 7.62x39 is outdated though.
Looks like an AK 12. Same church different pew lol.
@@TheRagratusnope do not group us with them
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Currently Sweden has the AK5C and Finland the RK62 (92, 95 TP), but as of 2025 both countries will have the AK24 which is a collaboration gun between the countries and in 2026 it will have fully replace all rolls and calibers within the armed forces.
I did Artic/Mtn warfare in Sierra Neavada in Feb 1985! Above 9,000' we had the white gear, mickey mouse boots, skiis, snow shoes, built snow caves ect! It was Great! Of course no one was shooting back so alot of fun! We even put white duct tape on M-16 to barrels.
Could there be two more different videos? Yes, both are hype videos, but the first one is all about America, and its strength and capabilties. The second one - footage also in the dark (which really was missing in the marine one) and not just focusing on your troops. Also, I simply have to love the last scene with all the four showing their solidarity.
When I was a kid, we had US Marines camping _just_ off the school grounds during a NATO winter exercise. They were _not_ prepared for a raid of a dozen or so kids, snowballs in hand.
A few years later, when serving myself, I recognized they weren't too prepared during summer exersices in Norway either... :/
I remember being there 2016 as a Finnish reserve soldier (back then it was called cold response), alot of sleepless nights, standing around in snow for hours and hours and alot of skiing. Sadly it ended 1 to 2 days before schedule bcs of incident. Alot of good memories. Remember worst part being that we got to shower once at the end of the camp and not getting sleep for 2 to 3 days straight.
I give you little story. I was in place called Upinniemi, thats naval base in Finland. Our battalion was this huge man, way over 100kg fat dude. In every time he fall behind. So rest of us need to carry him around. Here is the fun part. He wommit, passed out and still try to keep up with rest of us. He was not fit for that and we carried him around. Yes some ppls start to mock him and perhaps you may called bullied.
So who was the stronger man? Bullied or those who bullied him? Those who stand with bullied man or with bullies?
Ask that to yourself that. And yes i got gold on my shoulders in Finnish navy / defense forces.
My eye catches to the romantic look of landscapes on the videos. Must be same people making them as the ones making some holiday trip advertisements.
As a 44y fin, I can tell you that at first, during the winter time, there most likely isn't light. It's dark during the daytime also for the big % of Scandinavia. So forget those awesome looking gears, cause you don't see them 😅
At second, it is so cold, you can't imagine it from the video. There was few seconds of the reality where wet snow is flying to your face in the wind. Ad the darknes and wet clothes to that moment and it begins to look real.
I am veteran. From Bosia. Hello for you too!
Finns have a big militarily exercise in the north every year. I was there in the winter, doing guard duty. I spent my days looking at the scenery, reindeer and northern lights.
I volunteered for extra guard shifts because I wanted to be there and take in the scenery. It's my fondest memory from my time as a conscript.
The kit looks much nicer than we had back then. Then again, the special units get the best kit. My first gun was anchient, probably older than me.
Norway was a founding member of Nato.(1949) And we got our first Royal Norwegian Air Force F-35 -A. on our ground 2017. Fonding member of that program to. Im just jelus of all the hype on sweden and finnland :-) dont forgett we been the defenders of the free word in the high north forewer. Ok. In close partnership whit USA 🤣he he he
Don't worry. We don't forget our existing partners. They're just the new kids, and as such, are getting more attention. 😁
@@pacmon5285 Don't call Finland a new kid: we have fought three wars during the Second World War. And we didn't get help for the Winter War. When our food and weapons ran out, Germany came to help us in the Continuation War, but the whole rest of the world still dared to declare, that they were at war with Finland. Only the USA did not declare war on Finland.
Foreign support in the Winter War consisted of materiel, men and moral support to the Finnish struggle against the Soviet Union in the Winter War. World opinion at large supported the Finnish cause. The Second World War had not yet begun in earnest and was known to the public as the Phoney War; at that time, the Winter War saw the only real fighting in Europe besides the German and Soviet invasion of Poland, and thus held major world interest. The Soviet aggression was generally deemed unjustified. Various foreign organizations sent material aid, such as medical supplies. Finnish immigrants in the United States and Canada returned home, and many volunteers (one of them future actor Christopher Lee) traveled to Finland to join Finland's forces: 8,700 Swedes, 1,010 Danes (including Christian Frederik von Schalburg, a captain in the Danish Royal Life Guards and later commander of the Free Corps Denmark, a volunteer unit created by Nazi Germany in Denmark during World War II), about 1,000 Estonians, 850 Ukrainians,[1][better source needed] 725 Norwegians, 372 Ingrians, 366 Hungarians,[2] 346 Finnish expatriates, 4 Latvians, 2 Lithuanians and 190 volunteers of other nationalities made it to Finland before the war was over. Wikipedia
-There you go, well done, lads😎 -Greetings from Finland 🇫🇮
Combat Camera has some damn amazing production value on those clips.
Also the Finnish gun is likely a variant of RK-95 (short for RynnäkköKivääri 95, "Assault Rifle 95"), a further development from RK-62 which was pretty much a copy of the milled receiver AK-47, but with better machining quality and minor changes to the sights and such... and also the ugliest damn plastic and sheet metal stock on any military firearm ever.
The exercise N*rdic Response used to be called Cold Response, an even cooler (or at least colder) name. It is run every second year. Renamed Nordic Response as Finland and Sweden have joined NATO since 2022 (Sweden joined during the exercise).
Congrats on the half mill!
There will probably be more videos, because there is still a military exercise going on. They have now switched from Nordic Response to Immediate Response and will continue until sometime in May.
You can apply as a ykes soldier.
Sweden/Finland/Norway/Denmark. We are the Scandinavian Brotherhood. Anyone will regret doing anything against us. 🤘
Nordic*
Tulta munille,perkele 😂🤘
"anyone"
The rifle is some of the RK series... e.g. Valmet/SAKO RK62 or later editions like RK92/RK95 (or M92/M95 the commercial version)
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FDF (and SAF) is acquiring now a new rifle system SAKO M23 (AR & DMR). Unfortunately not much videos about the M23 around yet, only articles.
The SNRs are upgraded at the same time too and SAKO TRG M10 has been selected as the weapon of choice. It's been around for longer time and in addition to FDF & SAF is used by Canadian Armed Forces, Dutch Elite Tactical Police Unit DSI, Estonian Defence League, Polish Armed Forces, Slovenian Tactical Police Unit, South-Korean Naval Special Forces and NYPD Emergency Service Unit (ESU) ua-cam.com/video/955P9CFSmIs/v-deo.html
"The VMFA-542 historically introduces the F-35 into the region"
RoNAF: Am I a joke to you?
Really weirdly worded, VMFA-542 just recently finished transitioning to F-35B's. They are not even first American F-35's appearing in Nordic. Obviously Norway has operated F-35s for years by now and previously UK, Netherlands, Italy has send theirs for exercises in Norway. Basically they are last one(so far).
I was there, greetings from Sweden 🍻
Regarding the rifle, it is an AK variant, the RynnäkköKivääri62 (literally AssaultRifle62). But it's a really early one and pretty much the best of the bunch. The Finns tightened the design somewhat, the result needing a bit more maintenance but yielding greater accuracy and better overall durability. The Israeli Galil was based on the RK62. I'm not sure but I think the latest official model is still the RK95. When I served (2009-10), most rifles in my company were RK76's, with some variability between grips. Some had the so called "cheese grater" (a hole-y cylinder), some a somewhat more modern looking one, both plastic. All had the classic tube stock with your firearm maintenance kit stored inside. I saw some with folding tube stocks, but not many.
It's a good gun at it's core, but it has its drawbacks. First of all, any optics installed on the top of it are going to be very unstable thanks to some core AK design principles - or flaws, depending on how you look at it. The Finns tightened the design enough for it to work consistently with aperture rear sights and tritium night sights, but it shakes too much for modern optics. Secondly, it's main cartridge isn't - to my limited knowledge - that commonly used among NATO allies (going historically alone against the soviets they thought they'd be getting a lot more ammunition from the soviets than the west). I believe the FDF and Försmakten are in the process of introducing a new service rifle to serve both forces, simplifying both future co-operability and modernization.
USMC Semper Fi! That video w music had a GoT feel? Like the Watch going North of The Wall!
It did!!!
Regarding the weapons Sweden and Finland have, Sweden and Finland have decided to place a joint order for new weapons and then from the Finnish weapon manufacturer SAKO, and tests are currently underway in Sweden of the new self-defense weapon (automatic carbine 24) Caliber 5.56x45 with "11 .5" barrel and if it works out, these will be introduced in 2025.
Today, the AK 5C and AK 5D are used, which have replaced the earlier AK 5A and AK 5B
5,56mm AK24 in Sweden!
@@petter5721 I wrote it so read
Sweden and Finland are actually getting the same new rifles Sako M23. I know Sweden has ordered the M23 in 5,56x and 7,62x as rifle variants and also another 7,62 to be used as a sharpshooter weapon. I guess it's just a 7,62 variant with a bigger scope and bipod. Along with the TRG M10 sniper rifle.
I live in the US so part of my first aid gear is now including vented chest seals smh. Over the past two years I have been slowly assembling kits for the car and the house because we are expecting a 9.5+ earthquake. The kits have to be fairly comprehensive because you just never know what will hit first. Elastic bandages with gauze sponge packets tucked into the roll up for lacs to appendages and so much more. Iodine and saline bottles, super glue and suture kits for glass houses with that to die for view or just a trip to the mall.
The main rifle Finns use is Sako RK95 and RK62
Count me in on the party! I just subbed 🥳
Someone probably commented about the weapon already but: yes, it is an AK variant with the first introduction in 1962. So, the original type name is "RK-62" as in "RynnäkköKivääri-62", "assault rifle model 62".
Since then several upgrades has been made. Some test series in caliber 5.56 was made as well as in some .308. "Civil" /semi-auto versions of the weapon has been available (at least until the version M92), but the latest (to my knowledge) M95 wasn't available for reservists anymore. The M95 (again to my knowledge) is already pretty modern AK if you like - side bar using Weaver that can mount the usual things such as scope, holo, red dot and probably a thermal sight too. The weapon is machined from a single piece of high quality steel instead of pressing it from some piece of whatever iron.
The "downside" of the rifle has been considered the fact that it typically can't "eat" iron cased shells. Also unlike (typically?) other AKs, the weapon doesn't usually tolerate the changing of the lock & bolt action. Dunno if this is true, and if it is, I can't figure out why not.
I would like to add that the rifle in the video when the question was asked is specifically RK62M1 which is a modernized version of the regular RK62, it has a telescopic stock and a rail installed for mounting optics
If you want to check out the gun u mentioned on the video its a finnish made AK-based assault rifle called "RK-95" The one u stopped the video on is some type of modernized version of the RK-95 but u can look up the gun on youtube or just search the web to find it. RK stand for "Rynnäkkö Kivääri" and it literally means "Assault Rifle" you should check it out.
Welcome to Norway :)
The USA used to have the arctic mountain division in Alaska. My dad was one. Not much different than what I’m seeing in the first part of the video
3:01 Well, just re-enlist, mate! :D
There's a good video of RK95 on forgotten weapons channel, surely you know of them? Not sure what the current version is for conscripts... But basically, the Finnish RK is an AK built properly. Kinda like your L85 after H&K fixed it.. ;D
Hell yeah. I would love to join them
Imagine a ghost recon type shooter where you enter a conflict on different fronts depending what NATO member you join. These guys would look so sick in that snow gear, those tanks too were lit.
I once met Royal Marines growing up
Yes it was
Whats with the game of thrones music :D
I wish I was there
Forgotten Weapons has a few videos on the Finnish Valmet rifle.
O that cold water works like painkiller... only better... Do it often during winter... feel no evil after that... and gives good sleep afterwards...
Rk62 and there is varoius models
They’re also training with the danish troops in naval warfare. There was a recent naval training exercise led by the British and danish forces. Plus most Nordic countries are also training Ukrainian forces. I’ve seen some fly over here and know that they are training out in the countryside as well.
Winter combat is awesome. There are no insects camouflage is easy as you only need one colour and traveling on ski's is like a superpower if the snow is a bit hard.
Ski combat is the best and you can ride on ski's after a vehicle and be so far back you don't hear the engine and can just enjoy nature in silence, it's like being on a very fast "T" ski lift.
I did 10 months conscription in Boden in northern Sweden.
Wrong link in desc
I would love to se a world whithout conflicts and wars
but I'm afraid I won't se that. As an Americans you should think, that the Nordic countrys lay between USA and Russia, just imagine if Russia get Alaska back (as they wanted) and the Nordic countrys fell 🤔 ?? You will have the gigantic Russia on both sides of USA...........
The next name of an exercise in the nordics should be "Northern Wall". And the northern wall will never give way to Russia. We stand tall.
No, you suck all.
US doesnt have clue how to fight in cold and snow
There is no use of wow, cool or hell jeah in military practices... U would run away if something really happens.
Their service rifle is an rk62 (rk62m3 variant seen in video). Finnish made 7.62 nato rifle. Someone correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure that’s it.
It was rk95 older wersion is rk62
It's actually RK 95 and it's 7.62x39 so not a NATO caliber...
Is that a finger on the trigger @7:31? I'd hate to see that in a video if it was one of my guys.
Nah, hover finger, like the hover arm you do to not being accused of SA.
If you want to maximize the variety of deployments: US military
Til Valhall
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This is pretty good video about RK models, relatively short but has all what you need to know. Its also accurate, I can concur
Rk62 is the weapon it use 7.62 mm 30 round mag if i rememper i am finnish
😂
something you should check out is the Air Force Pararescue jumpers (PJs) you might not have heard of them but even the SEALs have the highest respect for them they are combat medics with SEAL like training
I did my Swedish military service in the 80s up in there in the north of the country. One part of me thinks this is way cool to watch and the other part of me kind of whispers “yeah, but it was also fracking cold and horrible to live trough”. When temperatures drop to minus thirty Celsius and below (I experienced that), things just break or don't work the way they did when it was warmer. Batteries can't hold charge, it's impossible. Rubber and plastics turn into wood, diesel turns into syrup. It hurts breathing, always be in motion.
It was also astonishingly beautiful at times. Guard duty at night under a starlit sky (no moon) with the northern lights crackling above. I'll never forget that.
I swore to my family, when I got back, that I would never ever complain about warm weather again. And I've kept that promise forty years later. I froze enough to last a lifetime. Mad respect for these men.
[edit] this was probably filmed when the temperature was no lower than minus ten Celsius. They are not wearing gloves, there is hardly any condensation from the breathing and the film cameras work.
Cheers 🍺
Good for hype . ❤
The most important thing for me personally was that Sweden became a full member of NATO during that exercise .
the rifle is ak-47 with milled receiver, instead of stamped receiver, with improved sights. metal and polymer plastic instead of wood
It´s not. It`s RK 95
It is almost all verry modern compared to when I did my military service in the first half of the eigthies.
We had sheet metal helmets and certainly no body armour.
It was also before thye time of CV90, CB90 Archer etc.
What we did have which is still i use are, KSP58, Hägglunds band wagons (not the armoured version), AK4 (mostly now with the home guard), Carl Gustav anti armour recoil less rifles, Volvo all terrain vehicles 4x4, 6x6 and 6x6 troop transport trucks. Those were my main mood of transport back in the day.
Things we were never allowed to let go of in the field were the gun (AK4), the helmet and the gas mask.
Other things could be dumped if need be but never those.
I do not really see soldiers with gas masks any more.
I have also noticed that Ukrainian soldiers do not seem to have them. So they are vonourable to chemical weapons.
How come?
Are gas masks bno longer faschinable?
If nothing else, I used my gas mask bag as my pillow at night in the fiels.
It also has som room for chocholate bars and toilet paper etc.
Verry handy in the field.
The Finnish gun is a RK62 in 7.62 but they developed a new NATO AR15 5.56 variant due in 2025.
Great Northern Lights in Swedish video
no no no
This nordic responce was the closest ever to the russian border too. Like 200 km away, maybe closer. Im sure this was a signal to Russia. And to all of you having fomo over not beeing part of it. Ive been there, done that. The excercise is so big, that this is for the big brass, and its lot more waiting then action. :p
Take a look at the AMF/L 1970 to 1999 every odd year was max effort in year 83 I spent two months in the UK the rest of the time was a continuous FTX from Norway to Turkey the six permanunt countrys pluss the host country
Rifle you were wondering in 9:30min. is RK 95
Our defence forces are for real. nothing to laught about in this video. UK and Swedes under monarchy are just protect the royal family. U have no war experience. Like Finns. but most important is the fact that for u it is to playing war. Not defend your country....That why we have defence forces not army. We help in Ukraine as a volunteers. And u are hyping like attacking forces are great. I would like to do that!🤣 Just go to Ukraine to help and u get all kinds off cool war experiences.
These "reaction channels" keep popping up in my fees, always block them. Worse now that Sweden have joined NATO.
Excuse me, 3:38 ? If i joined marine? On topic you say Royal Marine reacts? So you are fake?
Just a point of levity here, but you might want to reconsider your thumbnail facial profile a bit. That gobsmacked expression of yours on all your thumbnails is a bit over-the-top.😆😉👍 3:01 Now, there's something that I think would be very interesting to see, some original content explaining what it is that you actually did in the Royal Marines.💡 That is, your deployments, any noteworthy exercises or combat experience. I have always been fascinated and intrigued by individual acts of courage and/or heroism.👍
Brother… I often hear the jets flying in the air
I carry extra Israeli bandages in all my kits and vehicles
Sub!
Maybe.. just maybe its time to return to the military :) I'm sure you still got what it takes!
rk62, king of ak's
The only thing i wish most nato countries did was to spend 2% or more
All Nordics do.
I leave here, so... nothing special. Winter warfare is just like in any other extreme environment, just other considerations and dangers.
Now jungle warfare would be interesting 😉
Finnish rifle is a Finland made variant of AK. We call it RK. 7.62x39 originally, but there is bunch made ready for NATO cartridges too. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RK_62
All the service rifles are produced in 7.62x39 but there are a semi-automatic civilian and export variants made for NATO calibers. RK comes from the Finnish word 'rynnäkkökivääri' which means an assault rifle in English.
The army tends to use the term “Fi”. The hypothetical enemy. Could be anything. But… (points east)
Yeah it was always "yellow state" on training. But by the popular joke, someone once asked "but what if the enemy comes from the west?" To which officer leading the training answered "yes you are right, Russia might try to flank us trough Sweden"...
Anyways nowadays they just talk about Russia directly. (after the invasion in Ukraine started).