JoseLDrums (said no one ever) jk, after 1000 hours it kinda got boring looking at the snow but i will never get bored of the snow storms in survival mode , they looked amazing
i want to see more civilians and real time events ( like civilians almost getting excuted or burned by the cleaners) and we interven and help them out, and for the love of god please have more enemies that behave like the hunters and not brain dead rikers
Interesting take but I think Keener had a sort of nihilistic “thanos” mentality. He wanted to rid most of the human race because of our greed, and destructive practices we humans put on nature and each other. He was in it for population control, not power necessarily. The end of his last recording paints him perfectly: “If by some miracle you survive green poison, then nature has decided for you to live. The rest of us shouldn’t and won’t. Godspeed, see you in hell!”
That quote wasn't from Keener, that was a quote from Amherst; the virologist that created the Green Poison/Dollar Flu. But your point definitely still stands because Aaron had/has the same mindset as him.
I had expected that TCTD2 would not be based in NYC, but I didn't think it would be in Washington DC. When I stop and think about it there is a lot of good sense in this choice so I'm happy.
While the area of the map maybe calculated correctly it seems that the underground/ metro systems might be quite big judging from when they meet ETF kit
I wanted to say the White House or Union Station, but actually those would serve better as mission sites. There are a lot of solitary museums that would serve well as a BoO. One of the big ones that comes to mind is the National Museum of African American history and Culture. The setting in the city and the area around this particular museum are a perfect setting. Juts the general layout of where it is.
It looks like theres more npc interaction and even community building. In the trailer from yesterday an npc was marked as "community leader". Maybe the side missions are actually fun and interactive. What do you guys think?
Drew killer could be cool to have a base progression system for seperate communities that require different side missions to complete. Each unique to different communities/ factions
I believe you encounter open world events (like supply drop) and while fighting, as you progress, friendly NPCs join in the fight and help you take down the enemy. That's pretty cool and plays along the whole community narrative that they are looking for.
Yeah...hopefully the DC locals are a little more helpful...but I hear you. Maybe they changed it a little? It sounded like they did...maybe I misheard.
I had the same impression when i first saw the map. It looked very small. I was wondering if they had different maps or something because i could not believe we would get a map that small. But after watching this im very happy with the size
Shelby Timbrook until you grinded the DZ for a few weeks, got bored, wanted it to be expanded like in Division 1, then realized it couldn’t be expanded effectively, because it’s on an island.
I'm happy for the new location especially since it's varied but I'm also going to miss NYC. It would be cool to have an upgraded NYC map in The Division 2. Keep everything as is. It would just be cool to go back without having to boot up TD1. Wishful thinking i know. ;-)
Aphotic, it was a scam. Three years after launch and the game is almost in a launch ready state. This is the only game ive played that did not have all the missions available in every difficulty. Thats basic game development that has nothing to do with the engine. I do understand some of the troubles they ran into with working with a new engine so here is hoping that gets fixed. But it was definitely a really bad start, a lot of which was not engine related.
Not a good product =/= scam. See games like WarZ, and Call of duty: Advanced Warfare for money grabs. The division set it's expectations too high, and the devs have been putting tons of time and energy into improving the game. In it's current state, It's fantastic. A bit empty, but still miles and miles ahead of comparable titles, like destiny and wildlands. If this game actually was a scam, they would've cut development super early or chock it full of game-altering microtransactions. If it is a scam, then it's a bad one, because we got a damn good thing out of it.
Um Marco, you know that that info page is specifically for The Division and not The Division 2 right? You can notice this because it talks about Manhattan and if you scroll down it goes through the season pass stuff for The Division. Now I do agree that it is most likely that they will add a dark zone but its location might not even be in the base game or on the current map and may be opened at a later date as a patch.
I'm honestly shocked that Massive chose this district for Division 2. Two weeks ago, my friends and I still joked what area they would choose for DC. And we all agreed that the area from "Lincoln Memorial" to "US Capitol" would probably be the most boring option, because there is nothing but open, empty space. And that's where Division 2 plays. I had hoped that the White House would be the southern end of the map (final battle) and "Dupont circle" and "Lagon circle" are the northern end of the map. The road design with the intersections would create an interesting map especially considering the subway connections. Especially if a corner of it was a dark zone. The area where we will play, there is absolutely no interesting subway connection. Maybe secret tunnels of the US government like you already know from Fallout 3 from landmark to landmark. Just my opinion though ... I hate the "look" theme of Division 2. "Oh look, (Last of us 2) is coming soon, let's capture the topic". This reminds me of the time when every AAA game had taken over the Las Vegas and Poker theme. Just boring. Lastly, I would like to say that it was a mistake to design the map by appearance 6 months after part 1. Why summer? Would not spring have been better? You could combine winter and spring perfectly and show how snow and ice melt. The snowdrop engine could certainly portray this beautifully.
I just had a thought, someone is going to make a shit-ton of money by mapping the entire world in a game engine and selling it out to devs to build their games on.
Great video marco, if you watch jackfrags latest video on the division 2 at about 4 mins on wards you can see the DZ border along with the Dz symbol... ill tweet you a screen shot.
Comparing the maps in the video with Google maps it appear to reveal couple mission locations.The Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum, Smithsonian National American History Museum, Federal Center SW metro, L’Enfant Plaza. The problem with Washington D.C. is theres a lot of monument and memorials I doubt they would incorporate any of the area in the dark zone.
Also, a lot of metro areas appear blue on the teaser video map. Possible Dark zone is all underground think of the subways and emergency politician escape tunnels that could be used.
chrisfps7 survival practically was like a battle royale, but more advanced. Problem was that it was under paid dlc, so not a lot ppl would play that from get go. I rly hope this time around it will be free for everyone
I kinda liked the snowy dense urban look. It was unique and felt hostile to life. I really think it's important to feel a constant threat, BUT at the end of the day I am looking forward to this. Great vid and cheers.
This is good. No complaints. Glad it's not in NYC. Glad it's not winter. Glad that supers MAY BE a thing of the past in place of class abilities. We'll see!
Yep! Using Google Maps Distance tool and Marco's outline of the map I come up with about 8.2 to 8.5 square Kilometers. 7.9 to 8.1 for the big area, and 0.3 to 0.4 for the island.
Abdelrahman Tarief its most certainly inaccurate. That formula only takes into account the square footage for a 4 sided figure which means he's giving the map like 20-30%more area than it really has
I don't buy that, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Which youtubers specifically & can you link their footage? can you site any sources? either way, don't get sucked in by the hud & the character on screen in the E3 announcement footage. there is not a gamer anywhere in existence that moves the camera like that. Go back & watch it again. It's a programmed, scripted camera that is giving a tour of 3d assets. with a weak HUD & a character slapped on the screen to make it "seem" like someone is actually playing. but rest assured, no one's playing anything. They did the EXACT same thing with the first Division E3 announcement. Hell, they even hired voice actors to record voice overs to make it seem like 4 friends were co-oping with Voice Chat. go back & watch that footage. it's obvious. scripted camera gliding through a prototype / 3D concept that wasn't even a fleshed out playable game yet, paid voice actors included. So yeah, I'll believe your claim if you can back it up with sources. otherwise, I have to interpret your words as assumptions.
People stoked it’s got a bigger play area, forget they hated the boring empty play area in D1.... 🤦♂️ Not to mention Marco said the same shit about D1’s map about it being HUGE and full of shit to do ore launch. And we get 1/3 of what he got us hyped for.
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no matter the map size, its always quality over quantity. If I can spend a lot of time just walking around, enjoying the scenery and details in a game, that's far better than a huge map with less detail.
I really hope they’ve changed up the mission design, I’m gonna be extremely disappointed if every mission breaks down to fighting waves of AI over and over... and over and over and over and over.....................
Massive already know their visual target due to the first game (Where the first game was announced on a practically new platform so they didn't know as well what they could do with it, same for WD1 i guess)
I live in NYC.. so I’m Kind of disappointed. There’s still so much of Manhattan (plus the other 4 boroughs) they could have designed DIV2 around... excited to see DC tho..I’m sure they’ll make Trump the villain.. BFF’s w/ Aaron Keener or something.
its 1.1 scale of Washington, D.C so the city has a total area of 68.34 square miles (177.0 km2), of which 61.05 square miles (158.1 km2) is land and 7.29 square miles (18.9 km2) (10.67%) is water. - so it will be a big ass map - 40+ hours story mode also
Thank you for ack'ing that the DEMOS are just selling tools. You don't know what you are going to get on launch day. Remember this stuff is SUPER SUPER HARD to code. I thik there is a new meta they are trying to launch and there will problems...thank God .. I don't see Classified and Optimization / Maximization of Damage/Armor curves..Rainbow Six Siege should be the mode.
Marco~ I work in DC and for a time I even lived in the city. If you look on the map at 1:13, I live in the area south of that yellow highway at the both. The area listed as Southwest Waterfront. If you look at that same map, where it says EAST END (center right)...I work about 2 blocks from the International Spy Museum which is about half an inch to the left of the words East End. ------------- Washington, DC is a LOT!! more wide open than inner city NYC. The DC Superior Court House (where I work) is a 5 or 6 story building, but there is a sub level to it as well. This is going to be really interesting.
I Hope They Really Do The DMV/DC Area Nice Im 8th Generation Of 12 In DC I Love My City And Want It To Be Perfect I Been Promoting This Game Fo My City And I Tell You My City Is Going Crazy For It Ubisoft So Take Your Time Do A Good Job Please
Since DC is split into 8 wards, your dark zone will be wards 6, 7 and 8. So “Transmissions jammed, proximity coverage only, welcome to South East..” #GoCaps
I completely disagree that this is a sequel as far as the gearsets and skills are concerned. They removed Sticky Bomb and replaced with Grenade Launcher, no more Healer or Reclaimer or Survival Link. I bet Tactician and all our favourite Gearsets are gone too. Woow! Now I'm not sure if I can Play this game without the Division 1 skills. I mean, this is a complete change of gameplay, it doesn't look like a sequel of Division 1 as gearsets and skills are concerned. Turret is gone too and replaced with flying Drones?! I would've called this ''Division 2: 3rd Wave Agents Unleashed'' with a completely different gearsets and skills. Definitely not a sequel of the Division 1 Agents, not at all.
I was expecting Chicago in winter (frozen river...) and hoping in San Francisco in Autumn ( replace snow with leafs ) but i was still fixated on virus and street fights for survival. But i am absolutly OK with D.C. because it really helps with story. They moved from virus to political - rebuild nation theme. It reminds me TV show: Last ship, and D.C. is full of political / military landmarks.
They had 3 years, 3 years! To make D1 look amazing and they STILL couldn’t give us what they promoted. You mean to tell me, that they’re going to give us something clean and polished in 9 months!? I HIGHLY doubt that. I will keep an open mind, but I’m very skeptical about it.
Sorry but that scaling is so BS the Division map is bigger the Dark zone is LONGER then Division 2 total map length!? (You know what is Funny all the Maps size claims were measured the same way even if that "200m test" was said to also not be to Scale by devs!!!????)
Alright, at the right "top" corner when you hover over the district "East Mall" there is a small thing which makes me excited, "level 30-32" Hmmmmm... bottom left corner, in this case the "Y" button it says "call for backup" Goodnight Marco :)
@MarcoStyle - thoughts after the big reveal at E3 today? I'll say this myself - Just like in D1, I'll probably end up playing this just as much. Story looks badass! Guess I better mark some vacation off next year.
In D1, most of the buildings of NY were inaccessible. The later expansion of the Dark Zone opened up lots of buildings for more playable square footage. Since Washington, DC has so many very large buildings, will there be more playable in-building space? If there are multiple stories of in-building playable space, then maybe there is even *more* playable space above and beyond the 11 km^2 space. That doesn't even include subway space, etc. Just a thought, and it will be interesting.
When comparing to GTAV you should be comparing directly to the city portion of the map, because the division games don't/won't have wilderness/country areas.
MarcoStyle, do you have some informations about Keener ? Cause heel yeah TD2 hyped me too but, i'm worry about just "Oh forgot keener" but we started with him and i would like to know about the "end" story of TD1... Thx for this video, like always great job.
You are right. Divison should have been a RPG more than Ass Creed games. AC sucks as RPGs, but Divison 2 could have been sort of like a Fallout RPG with "rebuilding". All they are going to do is kill people with cutscenes of "rebuilding" as an award. Another boring game.
I was hoping to continue in NYC. There are SO many iconic locations to have killer battles. Picture battling in central park, The Museum of Natural History fighting from gallery to gallery, hiding behind dinosaurs and stuffed aniumals. The Metroplitan Musum of Art with all its galleries, The Gurenheim, The Cloisters with its stone midevil structures, even the Statue of Liberty. I will also miss the weather. How large is it compared to Just Cause 2?
Now Marco is going to play his 2nd video game ever and never play any other games... lol. Map size means nothing, it's what is in that map that counts. Something you would know if you ever played ANY other game....which we know you haven't. You really need to try other video games Marco, Division was fun, D2 will be great but there's a lot of other games worthy of your attention. Try Warframe - it does everything the Division did but 100x better
The darkzone was the coolest most fun place to go and explore so my lore and fun gameplay locked off to pvp gank fests and the worst kinds of people. PVPers are also the reason the game was ruined for PVE as well, they whined so much till MUCH of the game was nerfed, gear, skills even consumables all those nerfs were because of PVPers WHINING. without thinking about how much they were about to RUIN the gameplay for everyone else.
IRL Theodore Roosevelt Island is empty except for a jogging trail. I doubt it’s on the game. The area just south of the National Mall is more likely included. Air and space museum, Smithsonian Castle, Jefferson Memorial.
The thing I'm curious about is, if I can transfer/copy my character from D1 to D2. I doubt I can bring my items and level to there (reset)....but I like to keep my char looks ☺
I would assume there would be some gameplay in Arlington National Cemetery, in Virginia, considering there's some promotional stuff of a large cemetery overlooking DC.
Now that the game has been out for a while, it's fair to say it's not a 1:1 representation of DC, but a 1:1 representation of PART of DC. For example: I did some consulting work for the federal gov't some years back, and stayed at the Capitol Hilton. The Hilton is only a couple-three blocks from the White House, but is in the out of bounds area just to the north. Good map. The timeline is supposed to be 7 months after the outbreak, but the destruction and overgrowth looks morfe like 7 years to me. Good game.
That NW area of the map also includes the George Washington University Hospital, so it could be a DZ. But maybe a map expansion will add the Pentagon and Arlington National Cemetery on the other side of the Potomac River.
I think DC will breathe more “newness” to Div2. I love the weather generator of Div1, and I think DC’s weather is closely mirrored to NYC, so the ability SHOULD be there to recreate all the different scenery with all types of weather. The gameplay looks stellar and I cannot wait for more “hints” from trailers and gaming convention releases.
Will get, I liked the first BUT... they made a mistake releasing near Sekiro. Sorry Ubi, I’ll be passing on this until a price drop. FromSoftware is getting my money!
Reaper2004 Maybe it holds a story of rioting near the white house when the disease struck, leading to the area near the white house being highly contaminated, interesting right?
You could consider something great: There is missions that force you to work in DZ or go through it! It could add so much suspense that really spices up DZ considering mission griefing or rogue while in a mission!
Great vid, Marco. I'm okay with moving on from New York. Seeing how the virus has impacted other areas will be interesting. And yes, more "life" in the environments should be a priority, even with much of the population being decimated/evacuated.
FYI, in real life there is no access from Washington to Roosevelt Island. The bridge you see in Google maps goes over the island, not to it. No access for cars or people. You can only access from the west side (Virginia). If you are coming to Washington for research, I'm a few blocks away from the Capitol ;)
This game is old. They show it on E3 in 2013. They just do more work. Check the trailer E3 2013 and you will see same type of game. Interface etc.. hope they will make this game as good as Division 1.
You think like WILD LANDS we will get the 3 other team mates and when you go co op you'll lose the AI squad like in wildlands. I'm curious if we have control over the AI squad members, like in wild lands. But we will see love the videos man missed you.
How many of the buildings can you actually enter in The Division 2? So many of these games pad the map sizes with lots of walking, but few enterable buildings.
As a player who right now doesn’t have the economic facilitation to buy both a full $60 game (70€ for me cause I live in greeece) like the division and a ps plus membership preferably 12 month membership which is 50€, putting the dark zone somewhere in which you will be forced to go through it in order to continue your PvE experience would be game breaking for me and other players who don’t really want to take part in the dark zone. So if what you say is right and you have to go through the DZ then it will be forced on players and probably not do well with critics and gamers. In my opinion the map we saw on the demo is not the full map but just a part of it
I'm hoping this one takes a running start from where the first game ended. If they can launch with lots of content like Div1 1.6+, I will be very excited to play. If they launch like Div1 for the first year, I will not be that happy.
Granted "the division" as an organization is an American Gov't organization, but would have liked to see something either in Europe or Asia vice being in the US again or at least maybe on the West Coast of the US. Maybe that'll be The Division 3....
Since they said its civil war.. Imagine if you could make a crew like gta5.. But can join a special game mode or server which there would be the whole map but you fight for sections of the map. It would not be like a 10 or even 1 hour game but more like the server would restart when one crew owns all the map.. Could take 1 hour or even 100 days.. Would be pretty cool ( PvP)
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Im gonna miss the cold weather and the snow storms :(
JoseLDrums (said no one ever)
jk, after 1000 hours it kinda got boring looking at the snow
but i will never get bored of the snow storms in survival mode , they looked amazing
There will probably be thunderstorms and rain storms
Blizzards got old real quick
JoseLDrums I will miss the snow too, made the game stand out from others too
JoseLDrums there will still be Christmas stuff everywhere as though it was frozen in time I would think.
Marco they’ll listen to you… they offered you a damn job
TKN Toes facts
damn straight
TKN Toes they did listen to him on armour health bar, which is something i wanted for so long
They offered him a job? What?
Eagle eye
Yeah they offered a job to Marco but he rejected it
Impressive work in such short time! Props to you Marco. You never fail!
well, he fails at doing anything BUT the division
He is one of the best and smartest UA-camr i know, so why the hate TDS? His work is great!
one of the developer's confirmed that its is 20% bigger then the first map
they are going to expand the map in the future free updates
yup.
FerrisMacWheel well this was a lie
i dont care how big it is, i just hope its not lifeless like the division 1
i want to see more civilians and real time events ( like civilians almost getting excuted or burned by the cleaners) and we interven and help them out, and for the love of god please have more enemies that behave like the hunters and not brain dead rikers
Username checks out.
I was going to say same thing. I think Division 1 has too big of a map for content it has.
dope malone they better put guns into civilians hand who are trying to survive too
I don't speak english 🤣🤣
lol
Do you guys think Aaron from the end of Division 1 moved across the states to set up at the Capital?
GTA funtimes That would be great!!
New_Atlanta7 I hope he shows up. His where about are unknown at the end of Division. So I would like to know what happen to him.
Interesting take but I think Keener had a sort of nihilistic “thanos” mentality. He wanted to rid most of the human race because of our greed, and destructive practices we humans put on nature and each other. He was in it for population control, not power necessarily. The end of his last recording paints him perfectly: “If by some miracle you survive green poison, then nature has decided for you to live. The rest of us shouldn’t and won’t. Godspeed, see you in hell!”
That quote wasn't from Keener, that was a quote from Amherst; the virologist that created the Green Poison/Dollar Flu. But your point definitely still stands because Aaron had/has the same mindset as him.
If you look back at data recordings Aaron Keener taunted saying "I'm heading west come find me" but we don't know where "West" exactly .
i like that they took it to washington DC.
I had expected that TCTD2 would not be based in NYC, but I didn't think it would be in Washington DC. When I stop and think about it there is a lot of good sense in this choice so I'm happy.
I like it
I already know once I buy this, I will have no social interactions outside
Dont worry once you play the beta you qill quickly realize that this sequel sucks.
I really hope not
@@ceez3841 Lol, you were wrong.
And now you won't :D
The fact that he accurately guessed the actual layout of the map is amazing
they just said its only 20% bigger and "near" 1:1 scale...
I hope Rick Valassi would make a return
fuck that imposter
Hey I liked Valassi. I hope he's at least mentioned in the D2
WillWhiskey tbh i loved listening to valassi especially while im upgrading my gear at terminal
hell yeah man! that would be dope. love hearing him while upgrading my stuff or while browsing DZ shops lol
No One would like different broadcasts, like in GTA...would be dope
While the area of the map maybe calculated correctly it seems that the underground/ metro systems might be quite big judging from when they meet ETF kit
I think the capital is going to be our new base
That’s where the enemies are at -.-
I wanted to say the White House or Union Station, but actually those would serve better as mission sites. There are a lot of solitary museums that would serve well as a BoO. One of the big ones that comes to mind is the National Museum of African American history and Culture. The setting in the city and the area around this particular museum are a perfect setting. Juts the general layout of where it is.
Map is 20% bigger than the original game. They just stated that on the UBi post party.
It looks like theres more npc interaction and even community building. In the trailer from yesterday an npc was marked as "community leader". Maybe the side missions are actually fun and interactive. What do you guys think?
DavDaBomb 21 I agree
Drew killer could be cool to have a base progression system for seperate communities that require different side missions to complete. Each unique to different communities/ factions
I believe you encounter open world events (like supply drop) and while fighting, as you progress, friendly NPCs join in the fight and help you take down the enemy. That's pretty cool and plays along the whole community narrative that they are looking for.
Yeah...hopefully the DC locals are a little more helpful...but I hear you. Maybe they changed it a little? It sounded like they did...maybe I misheard.
“it was good but very much... DEAD”, lmao 😂
I can not wait for this, I will no life this game.
New_Atlanta7 me and you both my friend. 🤣👌
you have to if you want to keep up! lol
I had the same impression when i first saw the map. It looked very small. I was wondering if they had different maps or something because i could not believe we would get a map that small. But after watching this im very happy with the size
FireSidePhoenix Still a small map.
ya for now.. im sure it will get bigger with the FREE 3 updates..
o and im fine with that. for me i like game that expand over time.
big scott ghost recon wild lands, far cry, assassins creed, crew 2 etc are way bigger :/
yes they are but this is division 2 were talking about.. nothing else.
Roosevelt island as the dark zone would be cool. I think a small dark zone would be interesting.
Shelby Timbrook a dz with one entrance? Lol that would be savage.
Shelby Timbrook until you grinded the DZ for a few weeks, got bored, wanted it to be expanded like in Division 1, then realized it couldn’t be expanded effectively, because it’s on an island.
Thomas Walsh maybe someone has a dredge pump.... F^_^CK Logic!!
Love how u break down Analysis in division 💯 good video 👍🏽
I'm happy for the new location especially since it's varied but I'm also going to miss NYC. It would be cool to have an upgraded NYC map in The Division 2. Keep everything as is. It would just be cool to go back without having to boot up TD1. Wishful thinking i know. ;-)
Yesss map size comparisons! Was waiting all year on this
I don't really care I'm gunna buy it like first one
faisalangel lets hope u aren't scammed like in the first one
We didn't get scammed. It was the first game on the new engine and it had to grow. I'm sure they've learned from all the bugs and the bad decisions
Aphotic yup yup
Aphotic, it was a scam. Three years after launch and the game is almost in a launch ready state. This is the only game ive played that did not have all the missions available in every difficulty. Thats basic game development that has nothing to do with the engine. I do understand some of the troubles they ran into with working with a new engine so here is hoping that gets fixed. But it was definitely a really bad start, a lot of which was not engine related.
Not a good product =/= scam. See games like WarZ, and Call of duty: Advanced Warfare for money grabs. The division set it's expectations too high, and the devs have been putting tons of time and energy into improving the game. In it's current state, It's fantastic. A bit empty, but still miles and miles ahead of comparable titles, like destiny and wildlands. If this game actually was a scam, they would've cut development super early or chock it full of game-altering microtransactions. If it is a scam, then it's a bad one, because we got a damn good thing out of it.
Um Marco, you know that that info page is specifically for The Division and not The Division 2 right? You can notice this because it talks about Manhattan and if you scroll down it goes through the season pass stuff for The Division. Now I do agree that it is most likely that they will add a dark zone but its location might not even be in the base game or on the current map and may be opened at a later date as a patch.
Cheers
Pretty sure yannick said in the E3 interview that there would be a DZ
Mand'alor Dz was confirmed by yannik during E3 in the base game
Thank you, maybe now these guys will stop this downgrade talking point nonsense 😱
flrt They aren't allowed to downgrade anymore just look at every game after the first the division
B4S1N true, just already bored with hearing it and it's months to go 😂
As if people actually had systems that could run the game as shown in the trailer in 2016 xD
Aphotic haha I guess. I just wanna see the new mechanics.
I'm honestly shocked that Massive chose this district for Division 2. Two weeks ago, my friends and I still joked what area they would choose for DC. And we all agreed that the area from "Lincoln Memorial" to "US Capitol" would probably be the most boring option, because there is nothing but open, empty space. And that's where Division 2 plays.
I had hoped that the White House would be the southern end of the map (final battle) and "Dupont circle" and "Lagon circle" are the northern end of the map.
The road design with the intersections would create an interesting map especially considering the subway connections. Especially if a corner of it was a dark zone.
The area where we will play, there is absolutely no interesting subway connection. Maybe secret tunnels of the US government like you already know from Fallout 3 from landmark to landmark.
Just my opinion though ... I hate the "look" theme of Division 2. "Oh look, (Last of us 2) is coming soon, let's capture the topic". This reminds me of the time when every AAA game had taken over the Las Vegas and Poker theme. Just boring.
Lastly, I would like to say that it was a mistake to design the map by appearance 6 months after part 1. Why summer? Would not spring have been better? You could combine winter and spring perfectly and show how snow and ice melt. The snowdrop engine could certainly portray this beautifully.
Another Instant Buy!
I just had a thought, someone is going to make a shit-ton of money by mapping the entire world in a game engine and selling it out to devs to build their games on.
already happened
Outerra Anteworld
Hmm 🤔. During the gameplay demo presentation in the post show, one of the devs said the open world is 20% bigger than the NY one.
yup
Great video marco, if you watch jackfrags latest video on the division 2 at about 4 mins on wards you can see the DZ border along with the Dz symbol... ill tweet you a screen shot.
I'm happy it's in my city this time, can't wait to see how accurate they have it.
Comparing the maps in the video with Google maps it appear to reveal couple mission locations.The Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum, Smithsonian National American History Museum, Federal Center SW metro, L’Enfant Plaza. The problem with Washington D.C. is theres a lot of monument and memorials I doubt they would incorporate any of the area in the dark zone.
Also, a lot of metro areas appear blue on the teaser video map. Possible Dark zone is all underground think of the subways and emergency politician escape tunnels that could be used.
Battle royale on the Roosevelt island, you heard it here first.
Also I will rly miss snowy and stormy survival :/
WhatIsThisPS Gaming no battle royale is gay
I just hope that, if they do have a battle royale mode in this game, that they still have Survival because I absolutely love that gamemode.
No...Bad... Sit down and shut up
Sterling Hoskins How about you fuck off? Let people have their own interests and opinions on what they want in the game and fucking relax.
chrisfps7 survival practically was like a battle royale, but more advanced. Problem was that it was under paid dlc, so not a lot ppl would play that from get go. I rly hope this time around it will be free for everyone
Game looks a whole lot like the 2013 D1 reveal trailer. Agents seem to move slower now. I like what I am seeing so far.
C'mon, it's not even close to the 2013 trailer. There is still no game that looks like that. :(
I love your content ,always good stuff !!
Any analyze of Cyberpunk 2077 is planed? Or you wait for more info? (they officially say we will see more on E3)
So you get it, when video? ;)
I need some zombie as a side mission 😎😎🧟♂️🧟♀️
I kinda liked the snowy dense urban look. It was unique and felt hostile to life. I really think it's important to feel a constant threat, BUT at the end of the day I am looking forward to this. Great vid and cheers.
Not first ;)
I am going to walk across the entire map from end to end!
Mathias Karlson game director said the MAP is 20% Bigger than the division...its confirmed
This is good. No complaints. Glad it's not in NYC. Glad it's not winter. Glad that supers MAY BE a thing of the past in place of class abilities. We'll see!
You can measure area in Google maps fairly easy. Just connect lines around the map, and it will calculate everything for you.
Yep! Using Google Maps Distance tool and Marco's outline of the map I come up with about 8.2 to 8.5 square Kilometers. 7.9 to 8.1 for the big area, and 0.3 to 0.4 for the island.
Matt Peters: yes exactly. He did it the hard way, and I believe it's not accurate too.
Abdelrahman Tarief its most certainly inaccurate. That formula only takes into account the square footage for a 4 sided figure which means he's giving the map like 20-30%more area than it really has
He treated it as a square.
Linkophere tf how are you guys using formulas I can’t even pass my trig test LMAO
if only the footage was actual game play. until they show actual game play, all of our "expectations" are completely redundant.
LethalFinch it was actual gameplay youtubers went and played that section
I don't buy that, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Which youtubers specifically & can you link their footage? can you site any sources? either way, don't get sucked in by the hud & the character on screen in the E3 announcement footage. there is not a gamer anywhere in existence that moves the camera like that. Go back & watch it again. It's a programmed, scripted camera that is giving a tour of 3d assets. with a weak HUD & a character slapped on the screen to make it "seem" like someone is actually playing. but rest assured, no one's playing anything.
They did the EXACT same thing with the first Division E3 announcement. Hell, they even hired voice actors to record voice overs to make it seem like 4 friends were co-oping with Voice Chat. go back & watch that footage. it's obvious. scripted camera gliding through a prototype / 3D concept that wasn't even a fleshed out playable game yet, paid voice actors included.
So yeah, I'll believe your claim if you can back it up with sources. otherwise, I have to interpret your words as assumptions.
LethalFinch o
I mean after they let youtubers play such arekkz gaming level cap ign jack frags
The Division 2 reminds me a bit of Ghost Recon: Wildlands
People stoked it’s got a bigger play area, forget they hated the boring empty play area in D1.... 🤦♂️
Not to mention Marco said the same shit about D1’s map about it being HUGE and full of shit to do ore launch. And we get 1/3 of what he got us hyped for.
4:38 GTA big map Not because it's helicopter and others but because it is from the rockstar company and company Rockstar relies and focuses on the map it's always the biggest map like a game The warriors and bully and GTA and RED DEAD, RED DEAD REDEMPTION and RED DEAD REDEMPTION 2 🐎🤠👨🌾🌿🌾🏇🌲🌳🌵✨🎇🏞⛰🏜🏕🌘🌠
no matter the map size, its always quality over quantity. If I can spend a lot of time just walking around, enjoying the scenery and details in a game, that's far better than a huge map with less detail.
*Map size got nothing on me. I have Teleport hack. Other people may ave fly hack, but my Teleport hack is better.*
Just want to Leave a time Capsule here. *#WE**_WILL_OPEN_IT_WHEN_MARCO_WILL_MAKE_3rd_MAP_SPECULATION_VID_FOR_DIVISON_3#*
thanks for the map, marco. i'm glad it's a new setting
5:23 that is the info for New York. It talks about Manhattan in the first and third column. And the Free Trial is still related to Division 1.
Great work. I am still missing The Division on E3 2015.. :/
I really hope they’ve changed up the mission design, I’m gonna be extremely disappointed if every mission breaks down to fighting waves of AI over and over... and over and over and over and over.....................
Like always youre the First with the best information! 👍👍👍👍
LOL right click on google map - option measure from here. Job done.
Massive already know their visual target due to the first game
(Where the first game was announced on a practically new platform so they didn't know as well what they could do with it, same for WD1 i guess)
I always enjoy the GTA 5 map size comparisons.
I live in NYC.. so I’m Kind of disappointed. There’s still so much of Manhattan (plus the other 4 boroughs) they could have designed DIV2 around... excited to see DC tho..I’m sure they’ll make Trump the villain.. BFF’s w/ Aaron Keener or something.
its 1.1 scale of Washington, D.C so the city has a total area of 68.34 square miles (177.0 km2), of which 61.05 square miles (158.1 km2) is land and 7.29 square miles (18.9 km2) (10.67%) is water. - so it will be a big ass map - 40+ hours story mode also
Thank you for ack'ing that the DEMOS are just selling tools. You don't know what you are going to get on launch day. Remember this stuff is SUPER SUPER HARD to code. I thik there is a new meta they are trying to launch and there will problems...thank God .. I don't see Classified and Optimization / Maximization of Damage/Armor curves..Rainbow Six Siege should be the mode.
Marco~ I work in DC and for a time I even lived in the city. If you look on the map at 1:13, I live in the area south of that yellow highway at the both. The area listed as Southwest Waterfront. If you look at that same map, where it says EAST END (center right)...I work about 2 blocks from the International Spy Museum which is about half an inch to the left of the words East End. ------------- Washington, DC is a LOT!! more wide open than inner city NYC. The DC Superior Court House (where I work) is a 5 or 6 story building, but there is a sub level to it as well. This is going to be really interesting.
I Hope They Really Do The DMV/DC Area Nice Im 8th Generation Of 12 In DC I Love My City And Want It To Be Perfect I Been Promoting This Game Fo My City And I Tell You My City Is Going Crazy For It Ubisoft So Take Your Time Do A Good Job Please
Since DC is split into 8 wards, your dark zone will be wards 6, 7 and 8. So “Transmissions jammed, proximity coverage only, welcome to South East..” #GoCaps
I completely disagree that this is a sequel as far as the gearsets and skills are concerned. They removed Sticky Bomb and replaced with Grenade Launcher, no more Healer or Reclaimer or Survival Link. I bet Tactician and all our favourite Gearsets are gone too. Woow! Now I'm not sure if I can Play this game without the Division 1 skills. I mean, this is a complete change of gameplay, it doesn't look like a sequel of Division 1 as gearsets and skills are concerned. Turret is gone too and replaced with flying Drones?! I would've called this ''Division 2: 3rd Wave Agents Unleashed'' with a completely different gearsets and skills. Definitely not a sequel of the Division 1 Agents, not at all.
I was expecting Chicago in winter (frozen river...) and hoping in San Francisco in Autumn ( replace snow with leafs ) but i was still fixated on virus and street fights for survival. But i am absolutly OK with D.C. because it really helps with story. They moved from virus to political - rebuild nation theme. It reminds me TV show: Last ship, and D.C. is full of political / military landmarks.
They had 3 years, 3 years! To make D1 look amazing and they STILL couldn’t give us what they promoted. You mean to tell me, that they’re going to give us something clean and polished in 9 months!? I HIGHLY doubt that. I will keep an open mind, but I’m very skeptical about it.
Sorry but that scaling is so BS the Division map is bigger the Dark zone is LONGER then Division 2 total map length!?
(You know what is Funny all the Maps size claims were measured the same way even if that "200m test" was said to also not be to Scale by devs!!!????)
Alright, at the right "top" corner when you hover over the district "East Mall" there is a small thing which makes me excited, "level 30-32" Hmmmmm...
bottom left corner, in this case the "Y" button it says "call for backup" Goodnight Marco :)
Nice job marco. Lol PlayStation players gettin everything late Again. Got me fucked up
@MarcoStyle - thoughts after the big reveal at E3 today? I'll say this myself - Just like in D1, I'll probably end up playing this just as much. Story looks badass! Guess I better mark some vacation off next year.
In D1, most of the buildings of NY were inaccessible. The later expansion of the Dark Zone opened up lots of buildings for more playable square footage. Since Washington, DC has so many very large buildings, will there be more playable in-building space? If there are multiple stories of in-building playable space, then maybe there is even *more* playable space above and beyond the 11 km^2 space. That doesn't even include subway space, etc. Just a thought, and it will be interesting.
When comparing to GTAV you should be comparing directly to the city portion of the map, because the division games don't/won't have wilderness/country areas.
MarcoStyle, do you have some informations about Keener ?
Cause heel yeah TD2 hyped me too but, i'm worry about just "Oh forgot keener" but we started with him and i would like to know about the "end" story of TD1...
Thx for this video, like always great job.
You are right. Divison should have been a RPG more than Ass Creed games. AC sucks as RPGs, but Divison 2 could have been sort of like a Fallout RPG with "rebuilding". All they are going to do is kill people with cutscenes of "rebuilding" as an award. Another boring game.
I was hoping to continue in NYC. There are SO many iconic locations to have killer battles. Picture battling in central park, The Museum of Natural History fighting from gallery to gallery, hiding behind dinosaurs and stuffed aniumals. The Metroplitan Musum of Art with all its galleries, The Gurenheim, The Cloisters with its stone midevil structures, even the Statue of Liberty.
I will also miss the weather. How large is it compared to Just Cause 2?
Now Marco is going to play his 2nd video game ever and never play any other games... lol. Map size means nothing, it's what is in that map that counts. Something you would know if you ever played ANY other game....which we know you haven't.
You really need to try other video games Marco, Division was fun, D2 will be great but there's a lot of other games worthy of your attention. Try Warframe - it does everything the Division did but 100x better
The darkzone was the coolest most fun place to go and explore so my lore and fun gameplay locked off to pvp gank fests and the worst kinds of people. PVPers are also the reason the game was ruined for PVE as well, they whined so much till MUCH of the game was nerfed, gear, skills even consumables all those nerfs were because of PVPers WHINING. without thinking about how much they were about to RUIN the gameplay for everyone else.
IRL Theodore Roosevelt Island is empty except for a jogging trail. I doubt it’s on the game.
The area just south of the National Mall is more likely included. Air and space museum, Smithsonian Castle, Jefferson Memorial.
Then overlay the map against Arma 3's Altis. Yeah.. that just happened. IIRC, the game Fuel still holds the record with it's procedural map.
The thing I'm curious about is, if I can transfer/copy my character from D1 to D2.
I doubt I can bring my items and level to there (reset)....but I like to keep my char looks ☺
I would assume there would be some gameplay in Arlington National Cemetery, in Virginia, considering there's some promotional stuff of a large cemetery overlooking DC.
Now that the game has been out for a while, it's fair to say it's not a 1:1 representation of DC, but a 1:1 representation of PART of DC. For example: I did some consulting work for the federal gov't some years back, and stayed at the Capitol Hilton. The Hilton is only a couple-three blocks from the White House, but is in the out of bounds area just to the north. Good map. The timeline is supposed to be 7 months after the outbreak, but the destruction and overgrowth looks morfe like 7 years to me. Good game.
That NW area of the map also includes the George Washington University Hospital, so it could be a DZ. But maybe a map expansion will add the Pentagon and Arlington National Cemetery on the other side of the Potomac River.
I think DC will breathe more “newness” to Div2. I love the weather generator of Div1, and I think DC’s weather is closely mirrored to NYC, so the ability SHOULD be there to recreate all the different scenery with all types of weather. The gameplay looks stellar and I cannot wait for more “hints” from trailers and gaming convention releases.
Will get, I liked the first BUT... they made a mistake releasing near Sekiro. Sorry Ubi, I’ll be passing on this until a price drop. FromSoftware is getting my money!
The Dark Zone is next to the White House? Interesting haha
Reaper2004 Maybe it holds a story of rioting near the white house when the disease struck, leading to the area near the white house being highly contaminated, interesting right?
That sounds very interesting considering that Capitol Hill AND the White House are missions. Can't wait to see what they have in store
You could consider something great: There is missions that force you to work in DZ or go through it! It could add so much suspense that really spices up DZ considering mission griefing or rogue while in a mission!
Maybe they should show something of Trump getting attacked now that I'd like to see
Great vid, Marco. I'm okay with moving on from New York. Seeing how the virus has impacted other areas will be interesting. And yes, more "life" in the environments should be a priority, even with much of the population being decimated/evacuated.
FYI, in real life there is no access from Washington to Roosevelt Island. The bridge you see in Google maps goes over the island, not to it. No access for cars or people. You can only access from the west side (Virginia). If you are coming to Washington for research, I'm a few blocks away from the Capitol ;)
This game is old. They show it on E3 in 2013. They just do more work. Check the trailer E3 2013 and you will see same type of game. Interface etc.. hope they will make this game as good as Division 1.
You think like WILD LANDS we will get the 3 other team mates and when you go co op you'll lose the AI squad like in wildlands. I'm curious if we have control over the AI squad members, like in wild lands. But we will see love the videos man missed you.
How many of the buildings can you actually enter in The Division 2? So many of these games pad the map sizes with lots of walking, but few enterable buildings.
As a player who right now doesn’t have the economic facilitation to buy both a full $60 game (70€ for me cause I live in greeece) like the division and a ps plus membership preferably 12 month membership which is 50€, putting the dark zone somewhere in which you will be forced to go through it in order to continue your PvE experience would be game breaking for me and other players who don’t really want to take part in the dark zone. So if what you say is right and you have to go through the DZ then it will be forced on players and probably not do well with critics and gamers. In my opinion the map we saw on the demo is not the full map but just a part of it
I'm hoping this one takes a running start from where the first game ended.
If they can launch with lots of content like Div1 1.6+, I will be very excited to play.
If they launch like Div1 for the first year, I will not be that happy.
Granted "the division" as an organization is an American Gov't organization, but would have liked to see something either in Europe or Asia vice being in the US again or at least maybe on the West Coast of the US. Maybe that'll be The Division 3....
I dont know if you saw that but "East Mall level 30-32", Maybe level max isn't capped at 30 ! (1:44 on the right of the screen)
Itd be cool if the division 3 took place in dublin, ireland.
Since they said its civil war.. Imagine if you could make a crew like gta5.. But can join a special game mode or server which there would be the whole map but you fight for sections of the map. It would not be like a 10 or even 1 hour game but more like the server would restart when one crew owns all the map.. Could take 1 hour or even 100 days.. Would be pretty cool ( PvP)
The question must be... dark zone exist? Or is part of the game.... looks like wildlands
Honestly, if THATs the map, I still cant wrap my head around why this wasnt just an expansion to Div 1....