limiter ceiling is the threshold for the limiting. if you set it at 12 db a sound would need to peak at 12db before it starts limiting. Also if you set the limiter attack, release and sustain to 0 the limiter becomes a hard clipper using the limiter ceiling as the threshold. Fruity Limiter underrated.
CEIL (Ceiling) - Limiter ceiling. Sets the level above which the signal will be limited. While it is not possible to disable the limiter stage completely, setting the ceiling level to the maximum (+12 dB) should effectively prevent limiter engaging. That's what the ceiling does as per the manual. The limiting of the signal is being "compressed" or "Limited" in your video by the saturator.
To help your voice-over not get too noisy you can just add the waves Ns1 to your voice over track and find a sweet spot . its a great tutorial here . thanks
I use Fruity Limiter to compress and saturate melodies, and I use Fruity Soft Clipper for drums. I put the threshold on the highest and post gain to the desired DB level, and the drums tend to keep all their qualities in the mix, no matter how low that DB level is. I use saturation on the limiter in my master preset, too.
I was always taught when I open FL Studio and Fruity Limiter was on the master, I was taught to delete it right away, Some people was acting like Fruity Limiter was the devil 😂 Anyway, Thank you Game...Always dropping knowledge. Do the Grammy's have a section for UA-cam Producers/Teachers like you if they don't they should and you Sir should have lots of those GRAMMY'S with YOUR NAME on THEM, PERIOD!!!
yes you should. make your song, get all the levels as best as you can before adding compression and mastering to the overall track -> for best results.
I remember Decap in one of his videos was talking about the ceiling as well in the fruity limiter how he uses it on his drums iI guess why he has the best kicks & 808s in my opinion his drums really do knock.
Nice info on the expander. Though raising the ceiling ALONE has no effect on the waveform. You can test this by rendering your track dry. Then render with the ceiling up. Play both and reverse the polarity on one and you get perfect phase cancellation.
Damn, I'm so surprised the way stock Compression and Limiting sounds in FL. (Did they change it??) I can't hear a difference between Fruity Limiter -vs- my expensive Pro-L 2. Also the Fruity Compressor gives me the same sound as Compassion with the same settings.
Thank you for the best Tutorial, how to use the Compressor, and Limiter. 🔥 now i make 2 years music and Never get a good Video how to use this to Master a Beat. 🔥🔥🙏
@@ehmjay540 i think they meant you should route your mixbus to a new channel, use the limiter and then blend this new signal with the original mix bus signal in the master channel.
I attempted to apply this to some of my old tracks and hear the differences but I unfortunately realized this technique is specific for your genre. In my case it doesn't work at all and ruins a lot of the sounds. Still interesting though.
I you sure this expanding? It feels like its doing upward compression. Also is the limiter and the compressor working together or does it switch between them depending on what is chosen?
yea, just watching him tinker with it, it seemed like upward compression (in OTT). But either way I'm going to re investigate the plugin using his information because there is a BIG difference in the sound for sure. The real test is what it sounds like after it's rendered. Stay up and keep Fruity Loopin'. Peace
Theoretically speaking, could you put your kicks/808s on a track by themselves, then do all this to just the track the kicks are on so it doesn’t affect the hh/claps ?
you can run side chained to kick drum so it effects the kick drum the most or only when it hits you could parallel process it to. so add separate track with instance of fl limiter and run a send to the track in parallel this may help you control what part of the tone and or dynamics sound is being effected
check out dan Worrall videos he explains side chaining parallel processing very well. he primary uses fabfilter plugins which I very much recommend. the process from a-b on such plugins is very similiar
I know what a ceiling is, I said I don’t know why it’s not clipping when we have the ceiling at +20dB, what’s the results? You’re focusing on one word, like, listen to the results
you werent hitting clipping range before increasing that ceiling right? Why would it clip then? Also, you can do this with maximus and compressor too, i dont need to tell how its done in maximus but in fls stock compressor if you increase threshold and change the the "ratio" to 0/4 it will increase the volume, i do it sometimes on 808s but i have never tried that on a full beat tho i have to admit.
bro tells us we using it wrong and then proceeds to not use it as a limiter at all. real title should be how to be too lazy to use real clipper. you should never use expansion on something that can still be mixed. expansion is mostly for fixing squashed amateur rendered mixes. if you need more dynamics in your kick turn it up and use a 30 ms attack on your drum bus. if youy simply turn up the drums they will hit the clipper quicker and harder then everything else. listen to this guy if you want to sound like everyone else.
The SAUCE is INSANE!! 🔥🔥 Thank you fam! Just getting started this year and I need to improve everything but most interested in Mixing / Mastering! This is AMAZING. So I don’t have to use soft clipper this gives WAAAAYYY more control
Bro you spit so much game and give us some of the best musical facts I can find on the internet as far as producing an engineering music yous a real one b
Thanks so much man I’ve been struggling with trying to get a Level sound this trick helped me to achieve that I’m forever grateful 💯🙏🏾❤️ much thanks bro
Congratulations you discovered saturation and compression.😂 why are you doing this in your master instead of just fixing your mix??? The best master is a great mix down
limiter ceiling is the threshold for the limiting. if you set it at 12 db a sound would need to peak at 12db before it starts limiting. Also if you set the limiter attack, release and sustain to 0 the limiter becomes a hard clipper using the limiter ceiling as the threshold.
Fruity Limiter underrated.
I just recently got into limiter and distructor and I’m finally seeing the magic in the distorted beats I hear
Thankyou
CEIL (Ceiling) - Limiter ceiling. Sets the level above which the signal will be limited. While it is not possible to disable the limiter stage completely, setting the ceiling level to the maximum (+12 dB) should effectively prevent limiter engaging.
That's what the ceiling does as per the manual. The limiting of the signal is being "compressed" or "Limited" in your video by the saturator.
I use the limiter in FL a lot. Added this to the toolbox. Thanks Fam!
To help your voice-over not get too noisy you can just add the waves Ns1 to your voice over track and find a sweet spot . its a great tutorial here . thanks
I use Fruity Limiter to compress and saturate melodies, and I use Fruity Soft Clipper for drums.
I put the threshold on the highest and post gain to the desired DB level, and the drums tend to keep all their qualities in the mix, no matter how low that DB level is.
I use saturation on the limiter in my master preset, too.
I was always taught when I open FL Studio and Fruity Limiter was on the master, I was taught to delete it right away, Some people was acting like Fruity Limiter was the devil 😂 Anyway, Thank you Game...Always dropping knowledge. Do the Grammy's have a section for UA-cam Producers/Teachers like you if they don't they should and you Sir should have lots of those GRAMMY'S with YOUR NAME on THEM, PERIOD!!!
I second that man.🙌
yes you should. make your song, get all the levels as best as you can before adding compression and mastering to the overall track -> for best results.
busyworks u did it again… u a producing legend fr i get so many tips from u bru
I remember Decap in one of his videos was talking about the ceiling as well in the fruity limiter how he uses it on his drums iI guess why he has the best kicks & 808s in my opinion his drums really do knock.
Nice info on the expander. Though raising the ceiling ALONE has no effect on the waveform. You can test this by rendering your track dry. Then render with the ceiling up. Play both and reverse the polarity on one and you get perfect phase cancellation.
5 year ...I still love you r video
You a real one 💯
some don't know this is a game changer... thanks BWB for this man! ❤️
That beat was dope and thanks for da info fam I'm glad u here we need u!!
I saw laxcity do this and I didn't really know how it works. I just know it sounds louder. Thanks for explaining this more indepth!
Busy with the work
Damn, I'm so surprised the way stock Compression and Limiting sounds in FL. (Did they change it??)
I can't hear a difference between Fruity Limiter -vs- my expensive Pro-L 2. Also the Fruity Compressor gives me the same sound as Compassion with the same settings.
Thank you for the best Tutorial, how to use the Compressor, and Limiter. 🔥 now i make 2 years music and Never get a good Video how to use this to Master a Beat. 🔥🔥🙏
Yo Game... the REAL game changer is using this in parallel to get this sound WITH your original dynamics in tact.
So put it on my mix bus? AND the master?
@@ehmjay540 i think they meant you should route your mixbus to a new channel, use the limiter and then blend this new signal with the original mix bus signal in the master channel.
@@ehmjay540 please do not do that. This guy has no idea what he is talking about
Probably cause polarity issues
Hey can you make a vid on the stock plugin pitch shifter and how to use it like the waves pitch shifter plugin
Very educative and kindly do a video on how to go about Maximus
FL Studio be like:
Soft Clipper: average Lil B song
No Fruity Limiter: *average Lil B song*
Wow! Big coincidence. I was just about searching for this tutorial online and suddenly, this popped up
I got you 😎
Oh thank u ffs i never really understood the concept of limiter and u explained that so well
🔥🔥🔥🔥 definitely goin to try this. I used limiter a little different
wouldnt one put the EQ after the clipper and limiter? I was always under the impression that the effects chain started at the top and moved downwards.
Thanks
Thanks for info. Would love to hear your take on the Maximus multi compressor.
busy done did it again changing the sound of the industry
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This is one of the best videos I have ever seen. Ever.
so this is kinda like what the mv2 does but you can add saturation?
Was waiting for this video!
Thank you. A revisit of Fruity Limiter is in order with this NEW information. If it will render like that......WHEW
How should I go about compressing vocals?
do you put it on before or after mixing your beats?
Fruity Limiter Been Slept On!
Fam thank you so much for this gem 🙏
We need ample guitar melody full detail tutorial please?
This video is the besttt i will try it !!
Thanks for the tip busy!
Thank you. This has helped out a great deal.
Yo game, please send us the song. Or a link to download it. It's so good.
Thanks for the tip
Would you want to level before this or after this step
I attempted to apply this to some of my old tracks and hear the differences but I unfortunately realized this technique is specific for your genre. In my case it doesn't work at all and ruins a lot of the sounds. Still interesting though.
Yooo thanks man 😅ibeen lookin for these bra
Does this apply to vocals?
I you sure this expanding? It feels like its doing upward compression. Also is the limiter and the compressor working together or does it switch between them depending on what is chosen?
yea, just watching him tinker with it, it seemed like upward compression (in OTT). But either way I'm going to re investigate the plugin using his information because there is a BIG difference in the sound for sure. The real test is what it sounds like after it's rendered. Stay up and keep Fruity Loopin'. Peace
@@forsale313 its upward compression and he probably means that too, just using the wrong term.
Dayum bro did u just try several chains and found this one. It’s a diamond!
I don’t even know how I stumbled across this lol
Can u do this technique when mastering a track?
Have you find an answer to this?
really helpful tkx bro
busy works beats deez nutz. all the people that hate on you are wack. keep it going bizzy.
I always deleted fruity limiter before this.. 🤣
Thank you
Sa . It's hard when you look at the software
This is fn genius!!! thank you
I used limiter on my my beat 🔥
Theoretically speaking, could you put your kicks/808s on a track by themselves, then do all this to just the track the kicks are on so it doesn’t affect the hh/claps ?
You could , track might not sound as cohesive but it can be done
you can run side chained to kick drum so it effects the kick drum the most or only when it hits you could parallel process it to. so add separate track with instance of fl limiter and run a send to the track in parallel this may help you control what part of the tone and or dynamics sound is being effected
check out dan Worrall videos he explains side chaining parallel processing very well. he primary uses fabfilter plugins which I very much recommend. the process from a-b on such plugins is very similiar
I would agree completely. I separate most of my drums as much as possible to add effects to each instrument. Instead of the entire drum track at once.
Only use this to side chain
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How would u do dat in ableton?
THIS A GAME CHANGER!!!! (no pun intended lol)
Gems! 💎
Thank youuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I remember dude played my worst beat then dissed it😂 but doesn't use limiter?
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great!🙏
big gem
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Shhheeessshhhh tooo much saauce🔥🔥
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Thanks tho, but how do i handle it when a 808 is added?
The same way
@@busyworksbeats okay thanks
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0:25 me too :P
stil got things to learn for this fool who is me lol
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i enjoy your videos but sometimes you talk too much....nothin but love though
You have discord ?
You probably don't want to take any advice from a guy who can't tell you what 'Ceiling' is while explaining a limiter.
I know what a ceiling is, I said I don’t know why it’s not clipping when we have the ceiling at +20dB, what’s the results?
You’re focusing on one word, like, listen to the results
@@busyworksbeats its not cliping because there is a release set
you werent hitting clipping range before increasing that ceiling right? Why would it clip then? Also, you can do this with maximus and compressor too, i dont need to tell how its done in maximus but in fls stock compressor if you increase threshold and change the the "ratio" to 0/4 it will increase the volume, i do it sometimes on 808s but i have never tried that on a full beat tho i have to admit.
thank you
Always dropping some Gems.... appreciate it 👍
bro tells us we using it wrong and then proceeds to not use it as a limiter at all. real title should be how to be too lazy to use real clipper. you should never use expansion on something that can still be mixed. expansion is mostly for fixing squashed amateur rendered mixes. if you need more dynamics in your kick turn it up and use a 30 ms attack on your drum bus. if youy simply turn up the drums they will hit the clipper quicker and harder then everything else. listen to this guy if you want to sound like everyone else.
The SAUCE is INSANE!! 🔥🔥
Thank you fam! Just getting started this year and I need to improve everything but most interested in Mixing / Mastering!
This is AMAZING. So I don’t have to use soft clipper this gives WAAAAYYY more control
Bro you spit so much game and give us some of the best musical facts I can find on the internet as far as producing an engineering music yous a real one b
thanks for videoooo!!!
:D :D
sounds overly distorted now. completely disagree with how you've used it.
I watched this n instantly had to go try it, this a game changer bro🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks so much man I’ve been struggling with trying to get a Level sound this trick helped me to achieve that I’m forever grateful 💯🙏🏾❤️ much thanks bro
Hey, thanks for letting me know about this. You helped me unflatten a lot of instruments and samples for my new remastered song.
subtitles plis..plis
Congratulations you discovered saturation and compression.😂 why are you doing this in your master instead of just fixing your mix???
The best master is a great mix down
I literally do that all in the mix and just use a limiter to bring the gain back up
Is it just me or is there literally no difference between any of these other than volume?
You have to use a good set of headphones or monitors. Close your eyes and it feels as if the room got bigger in a 3 dimensional space.
Can I do the same with my vocals ?
Great help dude. Keep up the great work. Gonna give you a shout out on my next podcast.
Now I know why Limiter is default when you open up FL 11.
why please explainn
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What beat is this tho ?
we need this instrumental released ASAP no rocky!
Love your videos, been watching for a long time. I feel wary that you don't know what the ceiling on a limiter is for.
🔥enrgy beats taught the same trick
and thank you for your effort. If you can make a video about Lo-Fi soft, that would be aweso!
This is brilliant! Big love from Russia! Watching you since 2019 🤯