I agree, there's no known limit to how many details a person can pay attention to. A great many organised details is a thing of beauty and I strive for that in life. I also like to not stress the mind where unnecessary.
@@machsuper It can always go too far, however. I have a CNC mill, 2 Routers, 3 printers and a CO2 Laser in parts... because I keep finding new/better ways to do everything... Analysis Paralysis. Oh and an EF and EG civic hatch...
I kept having that problem of never having a drill big enough so just got one of those cheap boring heads off ali express. It's saved me a few times now.
Definitely want to see more in depth in the next video. Reconditioning the dove tails and squaring the column are exactly where I'm at with my PM-30 CNC conversion. There isn't a good start to finish video on reconditioning these hobby mills so can't wait to see your next one.
Excellent feedback, that helps a lot to guide my decision make for the future. Delivering value is high priority, if that's what you guys value, that's what I'll give.
I plan to make it good! 😄 I know I’ll have a fair bit to buy, learn, and experiment with, especially with the software, but I’ve been in that situation before and I survived.
Before I build my 2nd diy cnc router milling machine, I firstly built a hoist. It can help me to lift up all stuffs to achieve the built of around 350lbs machine
Thank you so much for going into detail on this very intricate topic! There are little to no english content on multi-axis routers on youtube and i appreciate the effort and producton value put into this! Will continue to watch :)
Thank you mate, and you're welcome! I'm just living my dream by making videos and talking about this stuff. I'd be delighted if I can be the go-to source of DIY 5 axis content and info.
You might be already done, but getting that heavy milling head back on there at that height is going to be a nightmare... Thanks for letting us follow your journey, great project.
I’ve been following your videos since your explanation of your 5 axis build. Your explanations were very detailed I do appreciate your experience. I am looking to your future build videos, since I am build my own 5 axis machine.
I briefly thought about it, and I’ve left that option open in my mind. But I expect that the cast machine frame will provide a decent amount of damping right at the site of cutting action. If I think it could use it, even if it’s just to make everything quieter, I probably will.
Absolutely more detail, I love seeing and learning about all the ins and outs of things how they are tackled. As I’m just about to start the same journey I can learn from others
I've written a blog article to go with this video and I'll be doing the same for every video in the future. Expect the blogs to generally go into extra detail or cover things that don't fit well in the videos. Here's the article for this video: www.machsuper.com/articles/pascal-pt1
Thanks Blue. I've learned a little more from the performance of this video so far and the comments from people. It's very interesting to experiment; we'll see how the next video goes.
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Excellent video, all the details helping us understand and see the whys and hows are of course very welcome! Keep it coming
Going to enjoy watching this build process. Been tossing up for a while now whether I should buy something, or build something. Nice to see the Optimum puled apart. I have been debating Optimum versus Hafco. I heard the Optimum was better built than the Hafco. I may quite possibly follow in your footsteps and CNC convert a Optimum. With regards to the videos I find most viewers only watch a minute or two of my videos, and that seems common from what I have been told, so I would personally do shortish videos more frequently. I also think that has a bearing on UA-cam showing them. By the way love the stand and coolant collection. Most people under build the stand. That looks spot on to me.
This is going to be a great series. Details are good, especially the tricky parts you encounter. The dovetail slide looks rubbish, you need to ask HAFCO if this is a manufacturing defect. These Optimum mills are made in China to a price point, but anecdotally better quality controlled than Sieg and other imports bench mills.
I've found that my Optimum mill was higher quality than my Sieg X2 that I owned, but it's perhaps unfair for me to compare the two, considering the difference in price. You could possibly regard that dovetail as a defect, because the rest of them are much better, especially the ones that the manufacturer knows customers will see haha. I'll be addressing this in the next video. Cheers for the comment mate. :)
I built a 4/5 axis cnc from a precision Mathews PM833t. I modified a HAAS 5c 4axis and then have a trunnion for 4/5. With 4 axis mine spins at 3000 rpm so i get the function of a mill turn. I machined all of my castings so that linear rails could be properly installed. Machines a belt drive spindle to 12k rpm with a 14x28 table travel. I used all AC servos, 25mm and 30mm rails and blocks. Its honestly the nicest build I’ve ever seen and i did it all in 2 weekends. Granted i had a industrial cnc to help me and i am a professional machinist. I never finished the wiring I had to move garage haven’t found a garage to set it up. Who knows if i ever will. For now this Beautiful cnc sits in storage, brand new, unused.
I also machined my own BT30 spindle but i didn’t do the final finish work because i needed the 4 axis to finish it. As a backup I also have a purchased bt30. If i ever get it wired I may do a video series to finish it and post the original ones that I filmed. It has been a little depressing that life circumstances got in the way.
Sounds incredible! How did you get the 4th axis to do high torque positioning and high rpm? Is it a big direct drive motor? I’d love to see the some videos about it!
the design and the animations are absolutely gorgeous, great job on that!! what kind of CAD or rendering or other combination of softwares have you used to achieve that, and how did you become that good?
Thank you so much Sasa! I use Fusion360 for designing parts and getting machine gcode, but for the animations I use Blender and Adobe After Effects. Blender does the majority of the work though. I love Blender so much. I've been doing 3D modelling for over a decade now, I started at home, and most of my skill came from personal projects, though I did go to a technical school for one year to study 3D video game art which taught me quite a lot.
Cheers man. I think I'll look at getting a simpler mic setup if I'm gonna be recording more details more often. It's a bit of a pain with my current setup.
An idea to solve the crushing of the frame when you bolt the mill down would be to enlarge the top hole and drop a thick walled tube in. You could tack weld the top but the mill would hold it in place otherwise. Great build btw.
See I feel the same. I would probably not watch my videos if they were any longer than they are. It seems a lot of others are interested in longer videos though.
Hey Dude, another great upload. Super professional and slick! Personally, I'd be happy to see more nitty gritty. Great to see the channel subs shooting up! Keep up the great work 👍 👍
Okay, it’s looking like a decent number of people want extra detail. I’ll be taking note for the future. Thank you mate. It’s pretty exciting to think this might be a successful endeavour to build a channel around the things I love doing.
I discovered that straight after I lifted it off, I even had a piece of footage pointing that out, but I didn’t like the look of the footage, so I left it out. Trying to decide how much detail to give. Also, the video is about making the stand more than it is about how to disassemble specifically an MH28V. Still learning how much detail to go into in these videos. Thanks for the heads up though.
Great vid. Love your attitude and ambitions (the project is ambitious to me and becoming a content creator too). Looking forward to the series. Sharing some personal considerations, hoping it’s useful to you / confirms what you think already? I’m part of those viewers that will never attempt anything like that (most viewers I guess?). I enjoy details of how problems where solved but don’t need long sequences of looking at you scraping. In this video, I wouldn’t mind if some of the sequences where you move things around where accelerated but I find the “prepare for lifting and actual lifting” part must remain real time. I’m fascinated by the problem solving aspect and enjoy the relatable parts any hobbyist is facing (how did I forget my drill wouldn’t fit in there, oh well… no big deal 😂) Your first video on the 5 axis cnc had lots of content about your personality mixed with the actual project. I’d think that mix is one of the main ingredients for what I find enjoyable… In order to refine your story telling art and knowing what to leave in or out, I’d suggest asking the question: is this adding to what I want to tell or not? I believe you’ll quickly sense what is missing when a majority asks for more details on X while few will comment “this part was too long”. “Less is more” applies to story telling as much as it does to architecture. That’s just my humble opinion anyways 😅. Keep the great content coming ❤
What excellent feedback! Thank you so much for that! I do think this video could have used a little more personality. Frankly, one thing that was bothering me a lot was having to hit record on two devices, one for audio and one for video. I've been using my phone for the audio in my pocket, it's super annoying to handle with dirty, oily hands every time I want to start and stop recording. The smoother the motion starting and stopping, the more easily I can get a got shot and think more about presenting rather than getting the camera rolling. As such I've just bought a wireless mic that feeds straight to the camera so I only have to setup the camera and hit one button to record. Major guiding principles I've been using are 'people like seeing faces', 'people like personality', 'people get bored quickly', and 'people want value'. Some people watching this series will be wanting to learn for their own projects while others just like seeing others do it for entertainment. The latter will only want the entertaining details and the personality while the former will want all the details. I originally set out to make entertaining and beautiful videos, but I'm prepared to adapt a little to what's more successful while still being fun to make. I'm not at all shy about admitting I want to make money doing this, so there's definitely an element of business mindset going on here. I think the reason this video is not performing nearly as well as the previous one has a lot to do with the fact that there's not as much value in the form of education being presented in a way that's easy to understand. Many people were interested in the software side of that video because it explained mysterious concepts that I overcame. Going forward I'll probably return to a thumbnail with my face in it, more footage of me talking naturally on camera, and a little extra detail that helps to add a lot of value for viewers to take away, a lot of people seem to want that. It's an interesting game of managing the viewer's psychology to educate and entertain. Anyways, thanks again for the great feedback, that was awesome!
Oh that right... Bit of hindsight now, but you probably should have done some hole prep before welding. Also some crush tubes under the mill would have been a good idea. Don't you just love how clear hindsight vision is.
Enjoyed the video, definitely want some more details in the coming series. One pointer, you're probably going to want to get yourself a machine level, when you bolt the y axis casting down to the stand you are introducing twist in to the machine which will not be good for dimensional accuracy of parts and will create uneven wear. To counter this the easiest way is to use shim stock and the level to get it all square. Better way would be to follow in Stefan Gotteswinters footseps in his tramming a mill with epoxy video. Latter option may result in greater rigidity, but only margianally, the real advantage is the ease of adjustment compared to shimming. Glad you are following the prime directive.
Thank you for the comment! I've got a machine level already, so I should be sorted to take care of this situation. I'll also be installing the machine in my mate's shop who does professional scraping and machine restoration, so he can offer terrific advise for that stuff. I'm imagining using jacking bolts in place of shim stock or epoxy. The whole machine is being scraped and squared up with his guidance. By the end, it will literally and figuratively running like a well oiled machine.
@@szaborubin2856 it's taking a while as I'm busy with study, but there's some excellent content planned for the future and I'll have the second half of this year to dedicate to it full-time!
I like a good 30-40 min video for people that are well spoken and are able to explain their thought process, which you're good at. Have you seen those cnc conversion kits you can get for these little chineasium mills? Might be a good starting point if you're not looking to reinvent the wheel, which I know can be half the fun. Keep at it!
If I'm gonna record all the extra details, I'll have to look at getting a simpler mic setup, the current one is a pain to start and stop. Certainly have seen those conversion kits, I already bought my kit about three months ago from a nice bloke down in New South Wales. The brand is Tomahawk CNC, he's been great to talk to privately, he seems to have some great experience as a mechanical engineers over the past 30 years or so. The kit seems to be pretty nice value from the look of it. Closed loop steppers with plenty of power, double nut ballscrews, nice aluminium machined motor mounts. I'll make an entire video about the kit in the future.
@@machsuper hell yeah, the ball screws are always one of the most expensive parts. I wonder how those are manufactured. You have one of those lavalier mics? I think they'll record on a mem card on you and you just match audio up in post
I got a similar machine and also had Z axis issues. It was a real bitch to move up and easily chattered in cut. I found with no weight on it laying down it had close to 1 mm of rock side to side with gibb all the way in. The taper of the gibb didn't match the dovetail!!! I scraped it in using Hi-spot Blue and it's pretty good now. Can't wait to see what you do/did to fix your issue.
12:50 Good lifting technique Waiting for more videos on this project. Btw I'm curious how does these optimum mills compare to old milling machines. I've bought an old 71' mill for a CNC conversion I'm doing now. It is really MUCH bigger than yours and the travels on each axis are quite shorter. I'm wondering if the ridigity in mine will be bigger or there are only downsides in mine 😅 edit: Subscribed!
Haha thank you, gym is paying off, you're not the first one to compliment my lifting technique. There's definitely a superior sense of quality and good-fitment that the big old machines have over my Optimum mill. As shown on that Z dovetail, the parts still have a lot of improvement to be made. Having said that, this Optimum mill has a far nicer quality than the Sieg X2 that I owned, but that was also much cheaper, so I can't offer a really good comparison. I'm confident your machine will be far more rigid than mine.
I was thinking of getting a square framed machine level, but I’ve already got a regular one, so I was thinking of trying to use that somehow. Are the digital ones comparable in accuracy?
The video length was good, the lead into the next video was good way to end it. If you’ve got anything you want to know about the conversion for the MH28V I’m more than happy to share any info. The offers is there but I’m sure you’ll be able to sort it all on your own of course.
The ending was quite deliberately shaped, so I'm really pleased you mention that! Thanks man! I'll keep you in mind if anything crops up during the project.
Great content. Have you considered LinuxCNC for your controls? I'd highly recommend it. Could offer you assistance getting started with it if you'd like.
I have considered LinuxCNC, but I'm very interested to see what Dynomotion can do and I've already bought their hardware. I'll be using this machine as a guinea pig to learn how to setup and customise Dynomotion and see if it can do what I need for the machine I REALLY want to make in the future. I will love to have your help if I end up needing to go to LinuxCNC for the complete flexibility. I'll put you in my database of "people who've offer me help" (yes I do have a database in Notion for that haha). Thank you buddy!
I am not a machinist of any kind but for checking the nod of the Z axis against the tablet; would it be a option to get a magnetic angle meter, zero it on the table section and than holding it to the Z axis? Then at least you now the angle between the two, 0 degrees would be ideal(?)
You’re not far off! I’ve decided to buy a precision machine level that lives inside a precisely square frame. A machine level can measure an incline of 0.02mm over 1m of run. That’s the kind of precision these machines need.
@Mach Super great build! I'm looking forward to seeing the next video. Please show us that new precision tool you newly acquired. 0.02mm is, indeed, impressive.
I actually bought it in the Gold Coast because that's where my brother welded it up. I can't even remember the store I bought it from either. Sorry man. 😕
I hope I can offer just that in the future. Frankly though, it's the software that's stopping that from being a common thing. The hardware is not so hard for a decently skilled person with a mill and a lathe. I mean... I did it.
Not machining related, but you've done a few deadlifts and/or some other weight training haven't you? Almost no one who hasn't maintains lumbar position when lifting stuff. Saw you pick up some parts and immediately thought you had spent some time under load. :) Can't wait to see this conversion. What fun.
@@machsuper I meant the cast iron c frame you're using for the project is very thin. If I were to do that amount of work I'd have made a custom mineral cast frame instead.
Oh! Got you. It’s definitely not an optimised design, for sure. But I’m limited heavily in my budget and I already own the machine, so it’ll have to do for now 🤷♂️
@@machsuper yea budgets are something else, I've been designing a machine for almost 3 years now, I went down from $12k to $3k. Stiffness did take a hit but flexibility of use is many times better. Now another problem to solve is to run it entirely from batteries because energy prices went nuts. Wish I lived near a river, but I guess solar+wind will have to do.
Can you think of an example, I haven’t seen any that were better value than my closed loop stepper motors for the level of performance I’m looking for.
It’s impossible to say, but it WILL be a while. I’ve been studying full-time and it’s even more full-time than I expected. I’ve been trying to eek out another video that doesn’t require me to travel an hour just to work on it. But for now, I’m stuck writing essays every single day. I’m sorry for the wait, but rest assured, there’s ZERO loss of commitment to the project and I WILL be spending the second half of this year working full-time on Mach Super.
Recently decided to turn the scraping video into a series with some extensive expert help. We’re confident it will be the best scraping series on the internet, so we’re super excited for it. The trouble is that I’m caught up with full-time study right now. In 6 weeks I’ll be able to focus on UA-cam almost full-time.
At 71yo, engineering multi-trade trained from 14yo, I rarely negative comment on UA-cam videos BUT you flippant sounding comment "I have never Scraped anything, how hard can it be ?" really offended me. You just belittled a entire generation of workers (true Artisans) who's sole +50year life long job was "hand scraping" and precision fitting machines, and I can imagine many would have turned in their graves. Those at the top of their profession could within a short few hours on a Very High Precision component , tell you " the casting is still too Green (metal stabilized) and to go ""bury it for another year""; as the metal was still too "raw" even a year after being cast and now being got from raw product stock holdings. The few times I have ever hand scraped, it took me many days, to do even the ways under a tail stock. I have just started work on the concept of converting my old 1930's Horizontal Mill to have CNC capability, hence why I started to watch videos of what others had done. 50/50 if I will watch anymore of your video to gather knowledge. But if I do it will be with sound muted.
Hi David, I can definitely see how the comment came off offensive, but what I actually meant was to be sarcastic, indicating that I think it's going to be very hard and I have great admiration for the craft of scraping. I truly to find the early craftsmanship of precision engineering beautiful and highly, HIGHLY valuable. What was meant by my comment was a show of recognition that scrapping is a craft deserving of respect. I just begun scrapping my machine yesterday, I'm making progress, but it still took me 5 hours with only small progress. I hope your horizontal CNC conversion goes well and I hope you have a blast working on it. Many people would appreciate you making some basic videos sharing your many years' experience and knowledge to teach the young fools like me. 😄 I've also favourited your comment so my response to this will be at the top of the comments here.
Thank you for explaining.. I did miss understand you being sarcastic, as I had not been awake long and was in a deep technical detail focus mindset. I will re look at this video and await to view your next Part with both my sound ON, and at least 4hrs and 3 cups of into a fresh day. As to my making videos to share my skills, time is my Biggest enemy and I have so many concurrent tasks different I am doing on any day, that to do a video of covering just one task (like my mill) would require a lot of image editing I feel. And that's not a skill I have, nor time to learn and do it. Yes it would likely help others, so I will take it on board, and investigate what I need to make it happen.
@@machsuper i have an insane servo just laying around that is hollow and peaks at 300rpm. It's some sort of robot joint, i guess, but it looks like a giant version of PocketNC's rotary table. 92.2NM peak!
i for one love the nity gritty stuff the more detail the better 👌
Pleased to see ur a man of ur word! Been very much looking forward to this
Finally someone properly lifting heavy stuff. Warmup and straight back, be careful man!
Hahaha you're the second person to mention that, it's an unexpected and pleasant compliment. All those days in the gym are paying off haha!
I’m here for this project! Thanks for sharing. Now I’m going to ice my back which aches from just watching you deadlift the castings.😂
Haha thanks Trevor! Don’t worry, my back is okay. I’ve literally got a pain in the neck from the gym though 😄
The pace and detail are bang on for me... detail where appropriate, and skipping/fast forward for the boring repetitive stuff. Loving it, thanks.
That's great to hear, thanks for the feedback John! Glad I could entertain.
Never write comments but this one is for the algorithm. You are doing a great job, keep it up!
Hah! Thank you so much man! Really do appreciate that.
Your attention to detail is impressive man, exactly how things should be done!
I agree, there's no known limit to how many details a person can pay attention to. A great many organised details is a thing of beauty and I strive for that in life. I also like to not stress the mind where unnecessary.
@@machsuper It can always go too far, however. I have a CNC mill, 2 Routers, 3 printers and a CO2 Laser in parts... because I keep finding new/better ways to do everything... Analysis Paralysis. Oh and an EF and EG civic hatch...
@@3dkiwi920 perhaps you’re stressing the mind where unnecessary 😄
I love EG Civics though, I love their styling.
wonderful video - i prefer all the details and tips and tricks!
Noted, I’ll try to find the balance for people. Some think this is good, some want more detail. Thank you mate.
@@machsuper maybe do engineering cuts like BPS ?
@@gedr7664 I’ve thought about that, I’ve never seen it done thoroughly until now. I’m going to study his approach. Thanks for that.
Idk anything about that particular machine but this is a cool project!
I kept having that problem of never having a drill big enough so just got one of those cheap boring heads off ali express. It's saved me a few times now.
Really great start for the series i am all about the nitty gritty stuff👌
your video, audio and lightning is top notch 💯
Fantastic! Thank you Christoph! I really do appreciate that. I'll always be looking to improve.
Definitely want to see more in depth in the next video. Reconditioning the dove tails and squaring the column are exactly where I'm at with my PM-30 CNC conversion. There isn't a good start to finish video on reconditioning these hobby mills so can't wait to see your next one.
Excellent feedback, that helps a lot to guide my decision make for the future. Delivering value is high priority, if that's what you guys value, that's what I'll give.
Can't wait to see what's coming up. I'm sure the final result will be very good 🤓
Good luck man 🍀👍🏼
I plan to make it good! 😄
I know I’ll have a fair bit to buy, learn, and experiment with, especially with the software, but I’ve been in that situation before and I survived.
Before I build my 2nd diy cnc router milling machine, I firstly built a hoist. It can help me to lift up all stuffs to achieve the built of around 350lbs machine
so talented! keep doing what you do, you arecertainly on the right path in life
Thank you so much for going into detail on this very intricate topic! There are little to no english content on multi-axis routers on youtube and i appreciate the effort and producton value put into this! Will continue to watch :)
Thank you mate, and you're welcome! I'm just living my dream by making videos and talking about this stuff. I'd be delighted if I can be the go-to source of DIY 5 axis content and info.
@@machsuper That would be nice.👌
You might be already done, but getting that heavy milling head back on there at that height is going to be a nightmare... Thanks for letting us follow your journey, great project.
It's okay, I managed to separate the two parts, which makes it much easier to handle. Thanks for the comment. :)
Can’t wait to see your videos keep up the good work
I’ve been following your videos since your explanation of your 5 axis build. Your explanations were very detailed I do appreciate your experience. I am looking to your future build videos, since I am build my own 5 axis machine.
You're welcome Dennis! Thank you for the comment. I hope I can be entertaining and helpful for your own project.
I love everything mate! Thank you for sharing your knowledge! Loving the occasional gag too!
Thanks mate! You're welcome. Still working as much as I can on the next video. Very slow going...
Thanks for the video! So much work has been done
So much more work to go, too! 😄
Thanks for the comment man.
Have you considered filling the frame with sand or epoxy to increase damping?
I briefly thought about it, and I’ve left that option open in my mind. But I expect that the cast machine frame will provide a decent amount of damping right at the site of cutting action. If I think it could use it, even if it’s just to make everything quieter, I probably will.
Absolutely more detail, I love seeing and learning about all the ins and outs of things how they are tackled. As I’m just about to start the same journey I can learn from others
I've written a blog article to go with this video and I'll be doing the same for every video in the future. Expect the blogs to generally go into extra detail or cover things that don't fit well in the videos. Here's the article for this video:
www.machsuper.com/articles/pascal-pt1
Best wishes for the final result. Waiting for the next video..👍👍👌👌
You are admirable !!!! Keep it going. Giving you 6 stars.
What amazing words! Thank you so much.
Every thing is neat & super cool :-) Keep it going the way it is !!!
Thanks Blue. I've learned a little more from the performance of this video so far and the comments from people. It's very interesting to experiment; we'll see how the next video goes.
Excellent video, all the details helping us understand and see the whys and hows are of course very welcome!
Keep it coming
Thanks Jérémie, the next video will lend itself well to covering lots of details.
Going to enjoy watching this build process. Been tossing up for a while now whether I should buy something, or build something. Nice to see the Optimum puled apart. I have been debating Optimum versus Hafco. I heard the Optimum was better built than the Hafco. I may quite possibly follow in your footsteps and CNC convert a Optimum. With regards to the videos I find most viewers only watch a minute or two of my videos, and that seems common from what I have been told, so I would personally do shortish videos more frequently. I also think that has a bearing on UA-cam showing them. By the way love the stand and coolant collection. Most people under build the stand. That looks spot on to me.
This is going to be a great series. Details are good, especially the tricky parts you encounter. The dovetail slide looks rubbish, you need to ask HAFCO if this is a manufacturing defect. These Optimum mills are made in China to a price point, but anecdotally better quality controlled than Sieg and other imports bench mills.
I've found that my Optimum mill was higher quality than my Sieg X2 that I owned, but it's perhaps unfair for me to compare the two, considering the difference in price. You could possibly regard that dovetail as a defect, because the rest of them are much better, especially the ones that the manufacturer knows customers will see haha. I'll be addressing this in the next video. Cheers for the comment mate. :)
Nice work that stand is very solid. We made a CNC conversion that took a while but its working great now. It runs on Centroid Acorn CNC.
I built a 4/5 axis cnc from a precision Mathews PM833t. I modified a HAAS 5c 4axis and then have a trunnion for 4/5. With 4 axis mine spins at 3000 rpm so i get the function of a mill turn. I machined all of my castings so that linear rails could be properly installed.
Machines a belt drive spindle to 12k rpm with a 14x28 table travel. I used all AC servos, 25mm and 30mm rails and blocks. Its honestly the nicest build I’ve ever seen and i did it all in 2 weekends. Granted i had a industrial cnc to help me and i am a professional machinist. I never finished the wiring I had to move garage haven’t found a garage to set it up. Who knows if i ever will. For now this Beautiful cnc sits in storage, brand new, unused.
I also machined my own BT30 spindle but i didn’t do the final finish work because i needed the 4 axis to finish it. As a backup I also have a purchased bt30. If i ever get it wired I may do a video series to finish it and post the original ones that I filmed. It has been a little depressing that life circumstances got in the way.
Sounds incredible! How did you get the 4th axis to do high torque positioning and high rpm? Is it a big direct drive motor? I’d love to see the some videos about it!
the design and the animations are absolutely gorgeous, great job on that!!
what kind of CAD or rendering or other combination of softwares have you used to achieve that, and how did you become that good?
Thank you so much Sasa! I use Fusion360 for designing parts and getting machine gcode, but for the animations I use Blender and Adobe After Effects. Blender does the majority of the work though. I love Blender so much. I've been doing 3D modelling for over a decade now, I started at home, and most of my skill came from personal projects, though I did go to a technical school for one year to study 3D video game art which taught me quite a lot.
Very awesome. I think you have the video content pretty solid already. I like more depth too though.
Cheers man. I think I'll look at getting a simpler mic setup if I'm gonna be recording more details more often. It's a bit of a pain with my current setup.
@@machsuper Getting good audio is one of the banes of my filming existence hahaha. Voiceover in edit can make things a lot easier.
Love your content, Love the details, Love that your an Aussie, Cant wait for the next instalment, keep them coming.👍
Cheers mate! Thank you for the nice comment! New videos on the way.
Excellent video. I’ll be following the whole series.
Perrrfect! Welcome aboard, I hope I can deliver on expectations.
Awsome video! Please make more soon! I always like more detail!
Looking forward to seeing this progress!
This is absolute quality.
This pleases me. ❤️
Great stuff! Looking forward to the series!
An idea to solve the crushing of the frame when you bolt the mill down would be to enlarge the top hole and drop a thick walled tube in. You could tack weld the top but the mill would hold it in place otherwise. Great build btw.
I thought about that. And I’m frankly still undecided if I’ll do it or not. I’ll probably decide when the time comes.
Absolute great format. Please keep it as is
Cheers! I’ve figured out a format very similar that I’ll be testing going forward.
Pretty nice video, hoping the UA-cam algorism blesses you with the views you deserve
I can't expect many views for a video about a stand, but I've got higher hopes for some future videos in the series.
nice video, have not unnucessary details. liked it
Thank you Hakan! I haven't forgotten about your message on Instagram, I'm just very busy lately. :)
@@machsuper i can understand you. Thanks for letting me know. Whenever u'll be avaible no problem :)
Great length of video! 👌 I find it hard to justify the time to watch long videos. Love the content.
See I feel the same. I would probably not watch my videos if they were any longer than they are. It seems a lot of others are interested in longer videos though.
@@machsuper got to cater for the majority! 👍
@@pirate323i The majority of the niche 😄
yes i was also wondering if you are filling the frame with sand to stop the DAMPENING
i think the speed is just right its really intresting
Awesome! Thank you Thomas! Good to know.
Hey Dude, another great upload. Super professional and slick!
Personally, I'd be happy to see more nitty gritty.
Great to see the channel subs shooting up!
Keep up the great work 👍 👍
Okay, it’s looking like a decent number of people want extra detail. I’ll be taking note for the future.
Thank you mate. It’s pretty exciting to think this might be a successful endeavour to build a channel around the things I love doing.
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I hope it is for you man👍
Do you plan on replacing the ways or screws as part of the upgrade at all?
@@drewgossage8842 I’ve got ballscrews waiting to go, the ways will just receive a little TLC, not linear guides, just too much money to get that done.
Yet another high quality video for a new channel, keep it up
Give us all the details, it's interesting
Thank you buddy! Next video will be pretty detailed, partly because I need to explain everything to myself so I don't stuff it up haha.
To get the head of the z axis there is a small grub screw that locks into a recess that stops the head moving forward when you rotate the head.
I discovered that straight after I lifted it off, I even had a piece of footage pointing that out, but I didn’t like the look of the footage, so I left it out. Trying to decide how much detail to give. Also, the video is about making the stand more than it is about how to disassemble specifically an MH28V. Still learning how much detail to go into in these videos. Thanks for the heads up though.
Great vid.
Love your attitude and ambitions (the project is ambitious to me and becoming a content creator too).
Looking forward to the series.
Sharing some personal considerations, hoping it’s useful to you / confirms what you think already?
I’m part of those viewers that will never attempt anything like that (most viewers I guess?).
I enjoy details of how problems where solved but don’t need long sequences of looking at you scraping.
In this video, I wouldn’t mind if some of the sequences where you move things around where accelerated but I find the “prepare for lifting and actual lifting” part must remain real time.
I’m fascinated by the problem solving aspect and enjoy the relatable parts any hobbyist is facing (how did I forget my drill wouldn’t fit in there, oh well… no big deal 😂)
Your first video on the 5 axis cnc had lots of content about your personality mixed with the actual project. I’d think that mix is one of the main ingredients for what I find enjoyable…
In order to refine your story telling art and knowing what to leave in or out, I’d suggest asking the question: is this adding to what I want to tell or not?
I believe you’ll quickly sense what is missing when a majority asks for more details on X while few will comment “this part was too long”.
“Less is more” applies to story telling as much as it does to architecture. That’s just my humble opinion anyways 😅.
Keep the great content coming ❤
What excellent feedback! Thank you so much for that!
I do think this video could have used a little more personality. Frankly, one thing that was bothering me a lot was having to hit record on two devices, one for audio and one for video. I've been using my phone for the audio in my pocket, it's super annoying to handle with dirty, oily hands every time I want to start and stop recording. The smoother the motion starting and stopping, the more easily I can get a got shot and think more about presenting rather than getting the camera rolling. As such I've just bought a wireless mic that feeds straight to the camera so I only have to setup the camera and hit one button to record.
Major guiding principles I've been using are 'people like seeing faces', 'people like personality', 'people get bored quickly', and 'people want value'. Some people watching this series will be wanting to learn for their own projects while others just like seeing others do it for entertainment. The latter will only want the entertaining details and the personality while the former will want all the details. I originally set out to make entertaining and beautiful videos, but I'm prepared to adapt a little to what's more successful while still being fun to make. I'm not at all shy about admitting I want to make money doing this, so there's definitely an element of business mindset going on here.
I think the reason this video is not performing nearly as well as the previous one has a lot to do with the fact that there's not as much value in the form of education being presented in a way that's easy to understand. Many people were interested in the software side of that video because it explained mysterious concepts that I overcame.
Going forward I'll probably return to a thumbnail with my face in it, more footage of me talking naturally on camera, and a little extra detail that helps to add a lot of value for viewers to take away, a lot of people seem to want that. It's an interesting game of managing the viewer's psychology to educate and entertain.
Anyways, thanks again for the great feedback, that was awesome!
Oh that right... Bit of hindsight now, but you probably should have done some hole prep before welding. Also some crush tubes under the mill would have been a good idea. Don't you just love how clear hindsight vision is.
Yeah… I didn’t go about it in the best way. I probably will weld in some crush tubes before I put it together for good.
welcome back, hope you're feeling better.
Lightning response! Thank you buddy, all healed up! :D
Enjoyed the video, definitely want some more details in the coming series. One pointer, you're probably going to want to get yourself a machine level, when you bolt the y axis casting down to the stand you are introducing twist in to the machine which will not be good for dimensional accuracy of parts and will create uneven wear. To counter this the easiest way is to use shim stock and the level to get it all square. Better way would be to follow in Stefan Gotteswinters footseps in his tramming a mill with epoxy video. Latter option may result in greater rigidity, but only margianally, the real advantage is the ease of adjustment compared to shimming. Glad you are following the prime directive.
Thank you for the comment! I've got a machine level already, so I should be sorted to take care of this situation. I'll also be installing the machine in my mate's shop who does professional scraping and machine restoration, so he can offer terrific advise for that stuff. I'm imagining using jacking bolts in place of shim stock or epoxy. The whole machine is being scraped and squared up with his guidance. By the end, it will literally and figuratively running like a well oiled machine.
@@machsuper Thats an amazing opportunity, cant wait to follow along!
@@szaborubin2856 it's taking a while as I'm busy with study, but there's some excellent content planned for the future and I'll have the second half of this year to dedicate to it full-time!
I like a good 30-40 min video for people that are well spoken and are able to explain their thought process, which you're good at. Have you seen those cnc conversion kits you can get for these little chineasium mills? Might be a good starting point if you're not looking to reinvent the wheel, which I know can be half the fun. Keep at it!
If I'm gonna record all the extra details, I'll have to look at getting a simpler mic setup, the current one is a pain to start and stop.
Certainly have seen those conversion kits, I already bought my kit about three months ago from a nice bloke down in New South Wales. The brand is Tomahawk CNC, he's been great to talk to privately, he seems to have some great experience as a mechanical engineers over the past 30 years or so. The kit seems to be pretty nice value from the look of it. Closed loop steppers with plenty of power, double nut ballscrews, nice aluminium machined motor mounts. I'll make an entire video about the kit in the future.
@@machsuper hell yeah, the ball screws are always one of the most expensive parts. I wonder how those are manufactured. You have one of those lavalier mics? I think they'll record on a mem card on you and you just match audio up in post
I got a similar machine and also had Z axis issues. It was a real bitch to move up and easily chattered in cut. I found with no weight on it laying down it had close to 1 mm of rock side to side with gibb all the way in. The taper of the gibb didn't match the dovetail!!! I scraped it in using Hi-spot Blue and it's pretty good now. Can't wait to see what you do/did to fix your issue.
Please get some steel toe-capped boots or a trolley.. You drop any of those corners on your foot and it will shear your toes straight off.
You’re right, I should have worn my boots for that lift.
12:50 Good lifting technique Waiting for more videos on this project. Btw I'm curious how does these optimum mills compare to old milling machines. I've bought an old 71' mill for a CNC conversion I'm doing now. It is really MUCH bigger than yours and the travels on each axis are quite shorter. I'm wondering if the ridigity in mine will be bigger or there are only downsides in mine 😅
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Haha thank you, gym is paying off, you're not the first one to compliment my lifting technique.
There's definitely a superior sense of quality and good-fitment that the big old machines have over my Optimum mill. As shown on that Z dovetail, the parts still have a lot of improvement to be made. Having said that, this Optimum mill has a far nicer quality than the Sieg X2 that I owned, but that was also much cheaper, so I can't offer a really good comparison. I'm confident your machine will be far more rigid than mine.
I would recomend getting a digitale level!
For your z axis alignment.
I was thinking of getting a square framed machine level, but I’ve already got a regular one, so I was thinking of trying to use that somehow. Are the digital ones comparable in accuracy?
your video length is perfect :)
The video length was good, the lead into the next video was good way to end it.
If you’ve got anything you want to know about the conversion for the MH28V I’m more than happy to share any info. The offers is there but I’m sure you’ll be able to sort it all on your own of course.
The ending was quite deliberately shaped, so I'm really pleased you mention that!
Thanks man! I'll keep you in mind if anything crops up during the project.
lad this looks unreal you just made my day 😁
Fantastic! That's what I wanna hear! Thank you buddy!
Great content. Have you considered LinuxCNC for your controls? I'd highly recommend it. Could offer you assistance getting started with it if you'd like.
I have considered LinuxCNC, but I'm very interested to see what Dynomotion can do and I've already bought their hardware. I'll be using this machine as a guinea pig to learn how to setup and customise Dynomotion and see if it can do what I need for the machine I REALLY want to make in the future. I will love to have your help if I end up needing to go to LinuxCNC for the complete flexibility. I'll put you in my database of "people who've offer me help" (yes I do have a database in Notion for that haha). Thank you buddy!
I am not a machinist of any kind but for checking the nod of the Z axis against the tablet; would it be a option to get a magnetic angle meter, zero it on the table section and than holding it to the Z axis? Then at least you now the angle between the two, 0 degrees would be ideal(?)
You’re not far off! I’ve decided to buy a precision machine level that lives inside a precisely square frame. A machine level can measure an incline of 0.02mm over 1m of run. That’s the kind of precision these machines need.
@Mach Super great build! I'm looking forward to seeing the next video. Please show us that new precision tool you newly acquired. 0.02mm is, indeed, impressive.
I would like to suggest using something better than plastic calipers for this build.
Hahaha! Don't worry, I'm on it this time! Even got myself a like-new Mitutoyo digital depth mic!
Good stuff... How do you make the animations? 👀
Thanks Maxim. All animations are made in Blender.
@13:40 the most suspenseful part of the whole vijayo!
Hahaha 😄
Noice, would be awesome to have a 5 axis cnc capable of working with steel.
I, for one, enjoy more detail, since you asked. Really, i was just looking for an excuse to make a comment that would help with the algorithm.
Thank you for that Scott! Next video will be highly detailed. 😃
Calling it Pascal? That's a lot of pressure. Maybe pick a name that doesn't set as high a bar...
Most underrated comment ever
I'm in Brisbane and about to start my PrintNC. Where do you get your steel? Any suggestions?
I actually bought it in the Gold Coast because that's where my brother welded it up. I can't even remember the store I bought it from either. Sorry man. 😕
@@machsuper All g mate. Looking forward to more vids. Even just ones of the 5 axis running a job
@@MTFreestyler Me too haha 👍
need more details about how you fix this issue
Don't forget to edit the descriptions (even a posteriori) with your IG & other links. ;)
Ah thank you! I did forgot to add the Insta link.
I whant more 😁😁😁
I know it's taking a while, but I assure you I'm working on it. Scraping is a slow process, especially as a beginner.
@@machsuper yes I know. I work on similar project to my milling machine, and i'am going to finish my lathe.
Good luck 💪💪💪
@@zinzinpreparation Thanks mate! You too. :)
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I would probably consider selling a kidney for a 5-axis that can cut steel and fit in my howdy shop.
I hope I can offer just that in the future. Frankly though, it's the software that's stopping that from being a common thing. The hardware is not so hard for a decently skilled person with a mill and a lathe. I mean... I did it.
Not machining related, but you've done a few deadlifts and/or some other weight training haven't you? Almost no one who hasn't maintains lumbar position when lifting stuff. Saw you pick up some parts and immediately thought you had spent some time under load. :) Can't wait to see this conversion. What fun.
Hahaha yeah you guessed it. Resistance training give or take 5 days a week for the past year and a half.
I also can’t wait to see this conversion 😆
so much good work for such a sloppy thin C frame, should have cast something unique yourself with EG
Sorry Jon, I’m confused what you mean. Can you explain better?
@@machsuper I meant the cast iron c frame you're using for the project is very thin. If I were to do that amount of work I'd have made a custom mineral cast frame instead.
Oh! Got you. It’s definitely not an optimised design, for sure. But I’m limited heavily in my budget and I already own the machine, so it’ll have to do for now 🤷♂️
@@machsuper yea budgets are something else, I've been designing a machine for almost 3 years now, I went down from $12k to $3k. Stiffness did take a hit but flexibility of use is many times better. Now another problem to solve is to run it entirely from batteries because energy prices went nuts. Wish I lived near a river, but I guess solar+wind will have to do.
Which country are you in? Here in Australia energy prices have been a hot topic for years.
make a short version for normal people that could be used as informative introduction to CNC machining and a long version for the phycopaths
If I would say one thing... maybe think of ac servos instead of steppers. Servos are so cheap these days it's hard to justify against them
Can you think of an example, I haven’t seen any that were better value than my closed loop stepper motors for the level of performance I’m looking for.
When is the next video coming?
It’s impossible to say, but it WILL be a while. I’ve been studying full-time and it’s even more full-time than I expected. I’ve been trying to eek out another video that doesn’t require me to travel an hour just to work on it. But for now, I’m stuck writing essays every single day. I’m sorry for the wait, but rest assured, there’s ZERO loss of commitment to the project and I WILL be spending the second half of this year working full-time on Mach Super.
Any updates on this build yet?
Recently decided to turn the scraping video into a series with some extensive expert help. We’re confident it will be the best scraping series on the internet, so we’re super excited for it. The trouble is that I’m caught up with full-time study right now. In 6 weeks I’ll be able to focus on UA-cam almost full-time.
Thank you for the ongoing interest! 🙏
you should fill the base with sand
I was thinking I might. Thanks for the suggestion.
At 71yo, engineering multi-trade trained from 14yo, I rarely negative comment on UA-cam videos BUT you flippant sounding comment "I have never Scraped anything, how hard can it be ?" really offended me. You just belittled a entire generation of workers (true Artisans) who's sole +50year life long job was "hand scraping" and precision fitting machines, and I can imagine many would have turned in their graves.
Those at the top of their profession could within a short few hours on a Very High Precision component , tell you " the casting is still too Green (metal stabilized) and to go ""bury it for another year""; as the metal was still too "raw" even a year after being cast and now being got from raw product stock holdings.
The few times I have ever hand scraped, it took me many days, to do even the ways under a tail stock.
I have just started work on the concept of converting my old 1930's Horizontal Mill to have CNC capability, hence why I started to watch videos of what others had done.
50/50 if I will watch anymore of your video to gather knowledge. But if I do it will be with sound muted.
Hi David, I can definitely see how the comment came off offensive, but what I actually meant was to be sarcastic, indicating that I think it's going to be very hard and I have great admiration for the craft of scraping. I truly to find the early craftsmanship of precision engineering beautiful and highly, HIGHLY valuable. What was meant by my comment was a show of recognition that scrapping is a craft deserving of respect.
I just begun scrapping my machine yesterday, I'm making progress, but it still took me 5 hours with only small progress.
I hope your horizontal CNC conversion goes well and I hope you have a blast working on it. Many people would appreciate you making some basic videos sharing your many years' experience and knowledge to teach the young fools like me. 😄
I've also favourited your comment so my response to this will be at the top of the comments here.
Thank you for explaining.. I did miss understand you being sarcastic, as I had not been awake long and was in a deep technical detail focus mindset.
I will re look at this video and await to view your next Part with both my sound ON, and at least 4hrs and 3 cups of into a fresh day.
As to my making videos to share my skills, time is my Biggest enemy and I have so many concurrent tasks different I am doing on any day, that to do a video of covering just one task (like my mill) would require a lot of image editing I feel. And that's not a skill I have, nor time to learn and do it.
Yes it would likely help others, so I will take it on board, and investigate what I need to make it happen.
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I'm working on building my own mill, and suddenly i want to go 5 axis...
Haha I dare you to try it!
@@machsuper i have an insane servo just laying around that is hollow and peaks at 300rpm. It's some sort of robot joint, i guess, but it looks like a giant version of PocketNC's rotary table. 92.2NM peak!