A great demonstration of how a tool like FractMus 2000 need NOT be good only for sterile, uncurated proof-of-concept exercises that discourage musicians and programmers alike from exploration through sheer unmusicality. Real tools, real results- it's always incumbent upon the composer to decide what to do with them :)
I would like to do something similar but in sheet music to be performed live. does your program involve a visual representation of the time, pitch, timbre, and dynanic values?
I'm currently working on a few pieces for small ensemble that are based on such fractal concepts, the first one i wrote is *based* on the thue morse sequence and it works fine. Ideas for more pieces are in the process
This sounds like music that might be played in the late 21st central, and would be rejected by this generation due to being so out of the norm of what music we're used today
Self-similar? yes. Fractal? meh, kinda sorta, sometimes maybe, but generally no, not really. The self-similarity in human-composed music is mostly found in repetition (direct or with variation). Humans love repetition, and we love what is familiar. The key aspect of fractals, which is lacking in human-composed music, is a consistent self-similarity as you zoom in and out. You might find a fractal-like similarity on as many as 3 levels (key modulation, chord progression, and melody, for example) but it won't be consistent, and it probably won't go any deeper than that. Frankly, human attempts at fractal music usually sound lame and ham-fisted. Computer-generated attempts just sound like this: innocuous and vapid. (No offence to the human responsible. As both a composer and a programmer interested in computer-generated music, I think this is fairly successful.)
Machine thinks as mankind thinks. Do not seek the difference and borderline. Because there is no mystery in the world. Why? The world is mystery. Discrimination is nonsense at all.
Machine were made by man so really no mystery we made them our image and resemblance. We are not machines though. Machines reflects a very limited aspect of our reality which basically logic.
A great demonstration of how a tool like FractMus 2000 need NOT be good only for sterile, uncurated proof-of-concept exercises that discourage musicians and programmers alike from exploration through sheer unmusicality. Real tools, real results- it's always incumbent upon the composer to decide what to do with them :)
Like the universe, it just sounds like it is ever expanding and occasionally retracting.
The music sounds like the future music in 2040.
the music of madness!!!
this music is better than any of the EDM shit that plays on the radio
I agree that its absolutely fantastic. But lets not bring judging other things into this hmkay? :D
Heaven's waiting room.
Wouldn't be surprised if aphex twin makes his music like this
He has
oh? Do you know the name of the song?
LOL
Henon Atractor legit sounds like Aphex (melodically at least)
nice man. i guess its easy to see the patterns of the specific fractals you coded into it. id love to see more variation in the output
😀I like it very cool
Really impressive
Awesome!
Would be nice to see what would come out if you didn't use tonal scales but actual hertz frequencies
Yea for sure. I don't think thats an option with Fractmus, but that would be cool
If you want to be even more freeform you can write the byte values.
This actually sounds really good. Kind of reminds me of Plaid
epic!
I would like to do something similar but in sheet music to be performed live. does your program involve a visual representation of the time, pitch, timbre, and dynanic values?
Sort of. You can export the data as MIDI and import it into notation software.
I'm currently working on a few pieces for small ensemble that are based on such fractal concepts, the first one i wrote is *based* on the thue morse sequence and it works fine. Ideas for more pieces are in the process
Any idea where to get FractMus? Link is dead.
Hello! Which program did you use to make the video?
I used iMovie and a free program that doesn't exist anymore. A lot of the images are stock images and some screenshots of the actual score.
How were created they visuals animations of this video?
You can search for milkdrop2 presets, they're included in Winamp
This sounds like music that might be played in the late 21st central, and would be rejected by this generation due to being so out of the norm of what music we're used today
Always the key of c natural m minor?
If I had to guess I would say music in general is fractal , no?
+DocStomp yeah, humanly, this is machinely, haha
Self-similar? yes. Fractal? meh, kinda sorta, sometimes maybe, but generally no, not really.
The self-similarity in human-composed music is mostly found in repetition (direct or with variation). Humans love repetition, and we love what is familiar. The key aspect of fractals, which is lacking in human-composed music, is a consistent self-similarity as you zoom in and out. You might find a fractal-like similarity on as many as 3 levels (key modulation, chord progression, and melody, for example) but it won't be consistent, and it probably won't go any deeper than that. Frankly, human attempts at fractal music usually sound lame and ham-fisted. Computer-generated attempts just sound like this: innocuous and vapid. (No offence to the human responsible. As both a composer and a programmer interested in computer-generated music, I think this is fairly successful.)
hopalong atractor hooo
It comes from Mr. Ho Pa Long.
This music reminds me the music of Pat Metheny.
would be a lot more listenable with better instrument samples. really awesome idea though.
yes and musicians playing it!
im looking forward to it!! keep at it man.
Steven Gilliland
Yep. I was still studying music and engineering in college at the time, so my production skills were sub par for sure.
Machine thinks as mankind thinks. Do not seek the difference and borderline. Because there is no mystery in the world. Why? The world is mystery. Discrimination is nonsense at all.
Machine were made by man so really no mystery we made them our image and resemblance. We are not machines though. Machines reflects a very limited aspect of our reality which basically logic.
PHYSICS IS A VERY COPLICATED MACHINE WITH MANY PARTS ;)
It was okay, but I do not it forced my head to go up and down.
this is not fractal music
Fractal algorythm always produces what we use to call "minimalist music", quite boring. Drum beats sound quite superficial.
Tan buena música con tan malos visuales.
I agree. They definitely could have used different visuals, but the music was nice.
this sucks
FLAT, SORRY.
crappy