People of South Korea don't support LGBTQ BUT loves to ship the idols of same gender and gets excited seeing them being too touchy and giving couple vibes 🙄 I hope our society changes 🙏...I am from India and yeah LGBTQ here is not that much supported like in other countries
it's so disgusting how companies will push idols into fan service or embrace shipping when in all actuality they discriminate against those who are actually queer...
It's sickening how some of these haters are also some of the people who squeals and screams whenever their idols of the same gender are doing skinship, even being the ones who ask for them to do such, but if there are idols who are brave enough to reveal who they really are, they'd start throwing hate at them as if it's the worst thing they have ever done. These idols doesn't deserve this kind of hate.
@@babyolman1622 the irony is that fans constantly say they "love and support their idols and only want them to be happy" but the second there's talk about them dating, the hate comments flood in. It doesn't matter who the idol dates, they'll still get hate for it. Sad days man.
I need an idol that has a large international audience to come out. They might get hate in from conservative countries but as long as they have a larger audience they're more likely to be supported and it could hopefully spark a movement in Korea and the industry.
a few times before, Suga from BTS mentioned that his type wasn't limited to girls. I'm not gonna make any assumptions of his sexuality, buuuut if he was queer, and came out, that would be amazing, and as you said, hopefully spark a movement in Korea
There is one superpowerful & superidol couple. They are BOLD these days but please don't wish them to come out cuz Korea & other asians will hate them.
@@GheloMatic ya i want them to be free but i also feel protective about them i dont want them to get hurt and get hated..just want them to be supported and loved for who they are
@@thatrandomperson5828 Fr. Suga did say that his preference wasn't limited to girls. Maybe he's pansexual? Idk. But if he ever speaks up about his sexuality, I think true armys will support him all the way 💜
AMEN ! 👍😉 (I'm a hetero Dutch woman. But it always makes me so angry, how haters think they have the right to judge and try to reform somebody elses life. And put like sticker on them or put them in "boxes") Let people live the way They want to live and be happy) Love& Greets from Amsterdam 🌷
I'm pretty sure many idols today are not even straight (even famous ones) but there's no way they would reveal their orientation because of the toxic country they live in.
@@Right_beside_U I really wish i can do something but i have to hide myself too I am not gay but yeah my country is so boring so i use platform with international public
My heart truly goes out to you! Support the way you feel is best for you and I promise it will make a difference! Every bit helps to create the change we need for a better future someday 🙏 Thank you for love and support always ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🖤🤍
@@RapIsDeadlyThe year does matter. It’s 2021 and there are still people like you who have nothing more important to do than judge others just because of who they love, like tf?
So fans enjoyed their skinship, but when they found out it was genuine romance they were like "nah that sh*t's disgusting"....... fetishizing a sexual orientation to the max.
I was so happy when Aquinas outet himself as Bisexual and I also saw a lot of people being happy for him, I didn't knew he also got insulted because of that :(
Knetz are really crazy, imagine hating and calling someone abnormal just because they love someone, does it matter if its male or female or both? I guess time still stands still for most people.
Asian is very conservative in sexual orientation they only recognize 2 gender male and female if your not in those your a sinner that is it. Only few asian country is open and accepted the LGBT community
It's not their fault its the mentality they are brought up with . Like my country it's very rare to find LGBT supporters. I'm just saying, even i myself don't support LGBTQ because of d way o was brought. You guys may find it as a normal thing to be gay or lesbian that doesn't mean everyone will have the same opinion as u so just let Dem be
I love Kpop but will never understand this. They have plenty of shipping and touching with male artist for fan service. But the real deal is the problem? 🤦🏾♀️
Shipping is fine but homosexuality is not? This is what’s wrong with the k-community. No matter what,they are people too and they are just build different…they are still human too if you don’t like them its fine but you don’t get to hate them,you are spiteful
I am part of the kpop communuty and I really agree Like you see people shipping idols, calling ship names, And they will come out They will get discriminated and also bash with malicious comments Why? Because there part of the LGBTQ+ community Seriously if you like to ship a male to male or a female to a female idol Pls support them and dont hate them if they came out as gay, bisexual etc.
this is the worst part about kpop. some “fans” and netizens are disgusted of the thought of their faves being a part of the LGBTQA+ community. like, what? you don’t own your idols’ life, so live your own and stop sending hate towards them
@@cynicnhel409 true.. I agree. I think there are still many but they cannot easily come out cos situations dont let them do what they want. And for sake of career, group, and family, it is not easy to be out of the closet.
@@cynicnhel409 We need to show some indirect support in some way so they would feel comfortable if they decide to come out, not like putting labels but some other ways to show support
It's very sad that idols have to hide their feelings on who they love, just because some people object to who they love because it's not a man and a woman. You should be able to love you love without hate and discrimination
@homosexualfemininemal6whis526 i'm a biology male And i still think about my sexuality When i just a toddler i think im gay but when im 13 i think i start to like a girl but now im 17 i think im aroace or demi And i used to always been mocking by alot of my friend HECK even my own brother who is TOO religus and everything that are in lgbt are bad
It makes me so angry that they have to endure so much hate. But at the same time I admire their bravery and appreciate their contribution to a more open LGBTQ community
You don’t have to come out if you don’t want to. Either cause you don’t feel safe to do so, lack of support and understanding from their end, but know we are here and support you ❤️
I'm curious some people feel like they are obligated to come out... I;m really curious. As for me. I won't disclose my orientation unless i'm asked, so with these people announcing it to social media...is there a need?
I'm asexual too. My best friends & mom knows about it :). A lot of my friends support LGBT community, but they don't understand what being asexual means. I feel sad when they ask more about it and i can clearly see that they don't understand or maybe dont want to.. but whatever, i'm happy what i have and other people don't matter to me ❤ԅ(¯﹃¯ԅ). So if you want to tell, do it, if you don't feel confident, then don't. Whatever makes you happy!
@@matsurichan right?? I come out to my family and that shit only make It worse, now i wish i could just live my life without the pressure to tell anyone
If an idol lies about or hide their orientation I completely understand and I would never view them negatively for doing it. They have no choice if they want to make in the industry.
I always remember these lines by song ji eun when there are people who's bullied because of being gay: Don’t look at me like that We’re just in love, that’s all Don’t hate on us, however you’re viewing us We’re just a little different Just leave us alone Tell Me What Is Wrong Tell Me What Is Love I want to love however I want I won’t change no matter what anyone says Can’t we live in a world where time stands still? Why? Why not? We did nothing wrong Why? Why not? We’re so in love
@@chrislo2533 Yes exactly it was 2014 way way ahead of its time. She got so much hate for this songs but they still made it and they never tried to hide it's meaning. In the description of the song they said this song was about love between same sex, different ages, different races and other possibly prejudged and stereotyped relationships
I'm wishing *KILLIAN* gets his chance to successfully be a actor or musician and I hope the same for every artist or actor that has struggled gets they're chance to shine
With the amount of skinship that the kpop culture does, it's obvious we're gonna have a lot of gay couples. And I'm sure that it's much more than we have ever thought. Team sports show us how intimacy and too much contact make people fall in love with eachother haha
THIS.. how they get away with it, while other fans see it as nothing just skinship, but could be something more, due to ban dating. I'm sure they some end up dating each other for curious or not be lonely moments.
It's... not kpop culture, it's literally just Korean culture. Korean people are comfortable with skinship partly BECAUSE they don't ever interpret touches among members of the same sex as romantic or sexual. That stems from homophobia, of course. And that in and of itself makes your point incorrect: Koreans are used to a lot of intimacy in their personal friendships. It's not going to make them fall in love with each other any more than they would regularly do. It requires a same-sex attraction as a prerequisite, not just... you being very close and comfortable with your friend.
Learn how korean people interact with each other before you making an assumption about their sexuality,if you use your logic it mean all of kpop group are gay
I'm trying to answer both of you there are hours, but YT keeps deleting the texts cause they're long and they have too many censored words, and I didn't even write anything bad, just carefully explaining whats heteronormativity and why touchy cultures help people figure it out themselves in any part of the word, cause this is about biology. And that straight people will keep being straight regardless, but there are much more queer people in the world than people would like to admit.
You just have to use some logical and think: why korea forbid the press to leak gay couples or gay content? They exist and they're are afraid to make people know about that and you too just believe their censored press. They aren't exception when we're talking about our animal instincts. Straight people will be straight regardless, but touchy cultures help other sexualities to figure themselves out, it's logical and obvious.
They are so freaking brave, I admire them like really ! They perfectly know that a lot of fans won’t accept them but they still go on and do their coming out ! I’m really proud of them. Especially Holland, even if he suffered from being bullied at school for saying he likes a man, he still announced it to the whole world, he’s really incredibly brave.
In “Good Girls” mnet show Sleeq was one of the contestants and she spoke about being vegan and a lesbian, she even did a performance with a pride flag and the rest of the cast (famous idols like Jamie, Jiwoo Kard, Yeeun CLC) seemed quite supportive. I was very happy to see it
We need more drama like itaewon class and so not worth it that will represent LGBT , LGBTQ so mindset People will change and they stop making fun of them or thinking them as abnormal
I was so surprised and happy when a mainstream kdrama (at least internationally) had a trans character, I hope more people watch it and realize that we aren't weirdos, perverts, or 'bad people who will taint our children'. We're just normal people living our lives
There’s another drama called mad for each other, a character is a drag queen and id say the way they portrayed the character was pretty good and respectful
@@fdscrl6016 the younger generation doesn't know much about second gen idols like jokwon and amber liu 🥺 they have been supporting LGBTQ since second gen kpop
i want knetz to explain how tf the gay webcomics in korea are so popular and some even won an award when they act like this irl. they’ve got to be one of the most hypocrite people ever
c’mon, dont generalize a whole 50 mil ethnic group and calling them hypocrites. its obvious as to why sk would still be considered a conservative and traditional country, its getting better but comments like that aint gonna do anything. knetz get a bad rep but from comments ive read on naver theyre not ALL bad, afterall its just korean netizens, and all we can do is hope for a change at some point
🥺 there are people who supports LGBT+ community. Even though I am not a part of it I do support and respect you guys! I wish people will be more open minded in the future. Don't be afraid to love whomever you want to ok?
These people who hate towards LGBTQ+ are just cowards . They don't have gut to stand up for themselves and make changes in the world . All they could do is spread hate . I am not a part of Lgbtq+ but it piss me off like how people put conditons and barriers even in Love . Love is such a pure feeling that when ur are in love it does not even matter who the person is.
Religion has created a deep repulsion for homosexuality within religious people. They take it literally as God's word (though it was written and altered by humans thus should be read with discernment rather than blind belief) which is why their belief is unshakable and their hatred (which they believe is love because they believe they're "saving us" from "sin" and "h*ll") flows seemingly without end. It creates this twisted scenario where they believe they are doings God's work by repressing and hating on the lgbtqi+ community. Please do not take any of their vitriol personally or take it to heart. I know it is hard and stings and cuts deep but you deal with their twisted hatred by learning to love yourself just as you are and shine brighter than before, learning to live unapologetically as yourself. You sit tenderly with your pains and where society showed you cruelty and hatred, you show yourself love and tenderness. Self-love is truly the greatest gift you can give yourself especially when society meets you with disdain. Take care of yourself, you are loved just as you are. 💖🐱
i’m sorry but as a lgbtq+ person myself it’s so funny to me about how kpop fans think the whole industry is straight. like 1000+ groups, idols, bands, etc. are not all straight. i’m just waiting till the day some big idols come out. also wanna see how ppl react to that^^
I totally agree and many just assume that everyone is straight. Sorry but that is not possible and only homophobic people would automatically assume that everyone is straight. That is not right either.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj Goodness, can you imagine everyone in KPop being straight!🤭 It's just not statistically possible. I appreciate that there are many very young naive fans (not saying all of them are like it), aswell as homophobics. 💜
I wish I had a huge house so I could adopt all those in need of love, support and understanding. Talent is talent no matter what you are attracted to.why the hate? They are beautiful wonderful individual that deserve everything good in the world.
Wow, one day I am wishing that JYP will receive the biggest comeback regarding Killian. The pain he felt for losing IU in his company. I want him to regret it and learn his lesson.
@@moonlight-im8ik anthough i think that it wasn‘t bc he was gay but bc he was dating. I think idols have dating bans and they will most likely be thrown out of the entertainment if they break that. But ofc the factor being gay may have also played a role
@@anutyagi6906 really? I just know about this. Well it's their big loss to skip on Mamamoo then. They're in my opinion the best and most all rounded girl group in Kpop recently. All the member is equally incredibly talented.
This makes me feel so terrible, that idols have to hide part of who they are and can’t truly be themselves because society still hasn’t evolved enough to accept that love is just love, and it doesn’t change who you are as a human. There must be many closeted idols out there because their careers depend so much on backwards societal standards.
I don’t know why people don’t like it when kpop artist come out but then it’s western artist people are always supportive and happy for them like what the heck
It is because Korean society is still very old school and homophobic. The western societies are more modernized and open minded so of course they are more accepting of the LBGTQ community. It is sad that Korean and other traditional societies are still so old school and treats the LBGTQ community so badly. It makes me so sad...
Being the part of LGBTQ community in Ukraine on this day is almost the same now , someone needed to start this but someone need to go and give those people support for what they did too
Jyp really grosses me out. I know they definitely have created amazing groups and so much good content… but he really has made me uncomfortable ever since I saw him like dirty dancing with some probably trainee where he like slammed her into a wall with her legs wrapped around him on stage simulating sex…. The idols in the audience looked mortified.
Attitudes on gays in SK lag those of areas of the global community most predisposed to absorb K Pop. It is sad that a nation which has transformed itself from poor to an economic powerhouse over a couple generations struggles to handle the idea that comportment and fundamental human rights are not equivalent. Stripping an individual of the right to participate equally within a society by deeming human characteristics as inherently antisocial is an antiquated concept which hopefully SK will grow out of. God bless each of the pioneers who will suffer but in the end may be namelessly transformative to a society not fully prepared to accept 21st century values.
It’s makes me rlly sad to see how much hate and discrimination idols and people get for just being apart of lgbt+ community. No one should ever experience that. I hope it one day will better. You’re loved and appreciated no matter what.
I will never understand how they love skinship but will shame and kick someone out if they are gay. Its just sickening they are treated that way. Love is love.
its really sad man. the community or the fans are okay while their idols have skin-ship and make and read same gender fan fics bout them but not okay when they actually come out.
It’s Honestly Heartbreakingly Real That No Matter How Talented People are Small Minded Individual’s Lose Their Humanity and Discriminate People Who Should Absolutely BE CHERISHED!!! They go Through ENOUGH to just Be Themselves No one Should have the RIGHT TO HURT THEM WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES!!!! Because in all reality they already questioned themselves and degraded themselves But HERE’s a TRUTH FOR YOU THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY MORE DESERVING OF HAPPINESS AND LOVE because they have gone through The fires and Survived!!! Everyone would definitely have a change of mind if it were known that they passed away Because of Bullying and those Parents that Do Love their Kids would Absolutely have every right to ask for Justice!!! Life’s Precious and I will definitely support him/ her or trans because being a good person is also a True Blessing to Others!!’ Please Remember to be Kind/ Caring & Loyal!! This is my opinion and beliefs because I have suffered to give birth to my kids it’s my duty to give them Love and my understanding!!! Unless you know the loss of a child you don’t know pain! I hurt for them all that they are hurt for just being who they are!!!
"Brave or reckless?" Reckless for themselves & their personal careers... Brave for raising their voices and creating representation to give others the encouragement to be themselves; and brave for planting the seeds of change by stepping into the dangerous waters of hateful culture. Good on them, I'm proud of their actions. I hope for their sakes that the culture will change enough in the next few years so that they themselves can experience positive effects. But, regardless, they have started something in motion for supporting LGBTQ+ people of both the idol scene and the rest of the country - and other nationalities around the world who find support and strength in seeing their idols come out!
So your saying K-pop companies such as Jay why pee do that?! I should’ve known oh wait, I have. There has to be more trainees coming from YG, SM or even HYBE. As they say never judge a book by it’s cover. Such a shame there isn’t a company out there that supports you no matter your orientation.
Hurmm. This channel did not tell the real reason why he was kicked out. He got caught dating with male trainee in which a very big red flag for idol agency.
Even if the company would support you, the so called "fans" wouldn't. The chances of a lot of idols and trainees belong to the LGBTQ+ community is huge, so my guess is that they keep silent for the sake of their careers, and I do not blame them. It takes a lot to come out to this judgemental world
I hope there will be a company like that soon coming from a group with a fairly big fanbase that support LGBT too. Something needs to change in this industry.
Funny how these narrow-minded haters say that they're not clean enough to be in this industry. Fact check! The Kpop industry is not clean lol. The fact that the kind of "fans" these people exist is proof of that AND, that's just one of the reasons.
I'm from Holland (Netherlands) and i'm realy pissed at all the disgusting K netizens and agencies who critisize these artists. Who the hell do they think they are! It's none of their f***ing business! Mind your own and leave them be. I'll support them all. Love is love, no matter in what way. They deserve happiness just like everybody else! Point intended!
I love how people finds it diusgusting when the k-pop star is really homosexual but put them into an gay/lesbian shipping with another member when this Idol is in a Girl- or Boygroup, a human needs a bit of love and even if it's the same gander true love is first then when both partners are comfortable around each other!~
It's sad in 2021 this is still an issue. I know it's gotten better but not quick enough and not without many people still suffering based on their orientation. You can make a difference by truly supporting the LGBTQIA+ community & speaking out when it is safe to do so. Many hugs, Z.
I never understood why on earth in Korean tv shows make idols to do so many games that look like gay games and Companies approved Ship members with others same sex members?? BTW Fans love that. But when some of then says...you know what, I like men! And the drama begins....Ricky Martin is my ultimate favorite artist in the whole world. I had admired him since he was 12 and he was in MENUDO. When he got out of the closet I was happy for him because he can live his life now without feeling bad for show someone that he wasn't. Years has passed and now his married with a loving husband and 4 kids
I really love Holland for his music and his personality but some people only talks about the kissing scene on his MVs and him being gay like wtf?! why gotta be so toxic and homophobic kpop/music is supposed to be for everyone who has the talent.
When seeing this video and others similar, I lost my temper. Loving someone is not a sin. I started to share this video and my reasoning as to why we need to view this video. I'm an ARMY fan of HYBE's group BTS. When becoming part of a large fandom base, I noticed how we as fans contribute a lot of hate by shipping a member(s) in a group. We choose members in a group to ship because some want them to be intimate with one another to satisfy their self-gratification of love. Some just don't and will make videos to enjoy, support, and love them for their artistry. When fans ship their biases, in my opinion, they are also drawing others to make negative comments such as what Be Boss TV talks about in this video because of homophobia. Fans' imaginations cross the lines of who our biases should be with, or even thinking that these idols will marry them if they propose to them. These artists received countless death threats or physical and mental harm. In South Korea, there are no laws to protect those who are Gay and in the LGBTQ communities but here are those fans shipping them. Fans of Idol/Artists are part of the blame for reckless discriminate hate caused by shipping. This includes analysis of members without knowing they are part of the blame. The above video is real; suicide is the highest among celebrities in South Korea; remember that. Not only is suicide the highest among celebrities, but this country is also ranked #4 worldwide 28.6% of people die out of 100K people. If you care so much about Kpop, you will consider what a real fan will do to support these groups or solo artists. This includes all who take part in the Entertainment industry in South Korea and other countries. I thank BeBoss for bringing awareness about what it is like for those who are gay in the industry and hope others will share their opinions and this BeBoss TV video.
Your blaming fans but what about the role idols and their companies play in being apart of the problem when it comes to drawing negative comments towards idols if people think their gay, their the ones doing the skinship for fan service and the company usually encourages it especially 3rd gen kpop, skinship was so heavily pushed for fan service it practically became soft core porn onstage so likes not act like it’s just all fans, fans want it cause they give it to them and then they continue to want it all the while being homophobes at the idea of idols being lgbtq+ for real so is the problem really fans shipping or is it the ignorance bigotry and homophobia of the people who want skinship and homoerotics but how dare an idol be gay for real, it’s ridiculous hold idols and the companies accountable in the role they play like you do the fans if you want someone to blame, they can’t have their cake and eat to oh giving fans homoerotic skinship but then get angry when they ship them romantically or think their gay, they can’t have it both ways, that’s not how it works
@@lovelydiva06 I’m not blaming all the fans bc there are some that don’t do it. I’m saying just bc they do skinship, be touchy with each other that gives some fans the perception they are gay. Some cultures are like that very close but that doesn’t necessarily mean that they are gay. Well most idols can’t even date bc of their fans even the mention of dating a woman and they go crazy but it’s cool to to ship them with each other that’s a double standard. I’m a fan BTS and the mere mention of a them having a woman friend or just going out with friends and some fans go crazy but you can ship them together with each other.
Is it me or are these hate comments sounding the same...like they are being done over and over by the same people...all this is sad and heartbreaking and proof we all have a long way to go..
As a member of the lgbtq community this honestly made me cry. These amazing people don’t deserve the hate they are getting no one should be called things like that.
They have right decision because you can't escape from your own orientation. I love them and always support them. Being gay is not a sin it's a gift from God .🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
It's as if people expect Korean idols not to have a love life or a sex life like normal people. Sometimes I worry about people like JUNGKOOK of BTS who's been thrust into the industry at the tender age of 15. He must have not had a girlfriend yet or is still a virgin at the age of 23! People ought to give their idols some slack and not be too possessive. If they really want their idols to be happy, give them a chance to live normally, to have intimate relationships away from prying eyes. What's important is the amazing products that their talents can produce. What they do behind the cameras is their business, not the fans',
hmm, I heard in one Korean interview video on youtube that the younger generation admitted hitting it with sex earlier age. Could be the case with any Kpop in secret ofc, it's their business.
It’s ironic how straight idols from the same gender kiss each and everyone scream and laugh it out, and that made think like oh wow! I guess Korean people aren’t homophobic but damn they’re actually ruthless as hell.
proves that no matter gay, lesbian, bi, pan, straight, etc, not everything is sunshine and rainbows. when theres a bright side, theres always a dark side to it theres nothing wrong with being LGBTQ+, when theres people who dont accept you, theres always people who will😊
Ladies and gentlemen, this is what we call it as double standards. At one side you enjoy skinship relation and pairing but doesn't accept when idols come out as gay. We are in 21st Century for God sake. These things should be normal by now.
You're bad if you do bad things. You can't be good if you still stepping someone's life. We are all humans. If it's a sin, then check our judgements too.
People need to know that half of these idols are either not straight or BI and they just don't wanna come out cause it'll ruin their career it might be your bias who knows...we don't know but if they decided to come out let's respect it
Lmao D.I.P members completely rick rolled us. I didn't expect that. I was laughing so hard. Like they've been together for long time and we didn't even realize 😂😂😂 Also, how did their love life affect their careers? They performed well and made good music 💀
The ironic part of kpop culture is that the boy bands of South Korea, by American standards, would probably be deemed highly feminine and presumed gay......for some anyway. As a gay man myself...i always thought they were really soft on the eyes.😔 ijs
Sometimes, I think, Idols are becoming a product over being people. And this is horrible. That comment about 'fans wasting money for the two to just be dating instead of giving fans music' really upsetted me
It would be cool if MNH, the company Chung-ha is at, could take in some of the idols who are on this list. Chung-ha's company uses dancers who are apart of the LGBTQIA+ community. Maybe they would be more open minded than other companies. Or maybe an American label that works with Asian artists could sign them. It would be a cool project to start a whole group full of Asian artists, who were rejected from other companies, that are in the community.
It is never wreckless to be true to yourself & be who you are, regardless of a career. You only have 1 life to live & it can't be spent living it how others tell you to or think you should.
I feel really sorry for them. Come to Thailand, you will be living normal life no mattet you are LGBTQA. We have lots and lots of LGBTQA celebs. Even they revealed it after they famous, we still support and love them. No big deals
Untill and unless someone hurt my feelings I don't hate them. So why should I hate LGBTQ community if anyone of them doesn't hurt my feelings , they are just born as a human with uniqueness thoughts and talents .We lived in an advanced technology ,green & gene revolution going on ,we should accept them with respect and love no matter which gender we're born from God's love is beyond eternal. FORGIVENESS, LOVE, ACCEPTANCE, HUMBLENESS makes you a wonderful person.
Hahahha fans love shipping members but when they do start actually dating or when fans realized they weren't acting or something, they criticize them. Lol. What a mindset.
It doesn't make sense that they "ship" them and love "skinship" between the members, but won't support them if they are actually gay. That is f***** up!!
Also keep in mind, that this isn't just the k-netizens but international netizens as well, as you can see from the examples of comments shown in the video. The k-pop stan community as a whole really need to reflect on our behaviours and how we perceive these idols.
Fun fact about me : Holland gave me so much hope and he made me feel so safe that I managed to come out as les to my mum and stepdad , I love Holland sm and it’s so unfair on how badly he is treated
I'm thankful for everyone speaking out and those brave enough to live out in the open. You place everything on the line to come out in Korea. Your livelihood, safety and dreams. This is why we should place no company or artist on a pedestal because there are so many celebrities who are homophobic and bully their fellow artists behind the scenes and in front of the cameras they put on a fake front. I'm so proud of everyone fighting for human rights who have to face extreme backlash. They are the real idols. Just remember there are so many fans and allies who love and support your art as well as your right to love who you want. Thank you so much for covering this topic it's such an important issue that needs to be addressed.
People of South Korea don't support LGBTQ BUT loves to ship the idols of same gender and gets excited seeing them being too touchy and giving couple vibes 🙄
I hope our society changes 🙏...I am from India and yeah LGBTQ here is not that much supported like in other countries
It’s not in any asain countries! Asia needs to wake up and learn
some homophobes have the guts to call queer people disgusting when they openly fetishize mlm/wlw relationships and stuff..doesn't sit well with me
That's bc they only see gay relationships as a fetish...
Like seriously, I don't know what problem people have with the LGBTQ+ community!
@@gwenmloveskpopandmore Only Japan is safe and legal
Here in China, we can adopt but this happens rarely... Hope my country gets better
it's so disgusting how companies will push idols into fan service or embrace shipping when in all actuality they discriminate against those who are actually queer...
Iam glad that now there are many channels that talk about serious issues in k-pop
Namaste
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We need to talk more about every topic
ME TOO.
Kpop fans: OMG THEY’RE SO CUTE I SHIP THEM SO MUCH
Kpop idols who r really in love with each other: Are happy
Kpop fans: THEY’RE DISGUSTING
Literally I wonder how much artists that kept quiet because of this..
@@GReynl hate south Korea
It's sickening how some of these haters are also some of the people who squeals and screams whenever their idols of the same gender are doing skinship, even being the ones who ask for them to do such, but if there are idols who are brave enough to reveal who they really are, they'd start throwing hate at them as if it's the worst thing they have ever done.
These idols doesn't deserve this kind of hate.
Nobody “literally” nobody deserves it to be hated/ condemned or whatsoever for their sexuality!
They want Jimin and JK as couple
@@babyolman1622 the irony is that fans constantly say they "love and support their idols and only want them to be happy" but the second there's talk about them dating, the hate comments flood in. It doesn't matter who the idol dates, they'll still get hate for it. Sad days man.
Yeah, the hypocritical homophobic fake kpop fans.
@@Right_beside_U
I will never forgive them what they did to jimin, v and jk friendship, ever...
I can’t ever understand why it bothers so many about someone’s sexuality
me neither pal, me neither...
It's sad to see these people getting hate or discriminated. They deserve so much better
I need an idol that has a large international audience to come out. They might get hate in from conservative countries but as long as they have a larger audience they're more likely to be supported and it could hopefully spark a movement in Korea and the industry.
a few times before, Suga from BTS mentioned that his type wasn't limited to girls. I'm not gonna make any assumptions of his sexuality, buuuut if he was queer, and came out, that would be amazing, and as you said, hopefully spark a movement in Korea
There is one superpowerful & superidol couple. They are BOLD these days but please don't wish them to come out cuz Korea & other asians will hate them.
@@GheloMatic who?? 🌝
@@GheloMatic ya i want them to be free but i also feel protective about them i dont want them to get hurt and get hated..just want them to be supported and loved for who they are
@@thatrandomperson5828 Fr. Suga did say that his preference wasn't limited to girls. Maybe he's pansexual? Idk. But if he ever speaks up about his sexuality, I think true armys will support him all the way 💜
No matter gay or lesbian or anyone in the LGBTQ+ community nobody deserves to be treated like this
i agreed with you,nobody should treat like that😤
AMEN ! 👍😉
(I'm a hetero Dutch woman. But it always makes me so angry, how haters think they have the right to judge and try to reform somebody elses life.
And put like sticker on them or put them in "boxes")
Let people live the way They want to live and be happy)
Love& Greets from Amsterdam 🌷
They'll be forced to endure this in HELL if they don't repent!
Totally agree with this!!!!
I'm pretty sure many idols today are not even straight (even famous ones) but there's no way they would reveal their orientation because of the toxic country they live in.
These Idols really make a difference though, Even if it's just a little it still does something! They're literally paving ways
100%...these idols are paving the way with their stories and hopefully one day the world will stop the hate.
@@Right_beside_U
I really wish i can do something but i have to hide myself too
I am not gay but yeah my country is so boring so i use platform with international public
My heart truly goes out to you! Support the way you feel is best for you and I promise it will make a difference! Every bit helps to create the change we need for a better future someday 🙏 Thank you for love and support always ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🖤🤍
❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤🤍
*Y'all it's freaking 2021* let people love whoever they want. Just be happy and let others be happy.
The year doesn't matter. Do what you want but keep that shit in the closet.
@@RapIsDeadly nah we're good how about keep your comment in the closet cause nobody asked
@@RapIsDeadlyThe year does matter. It’s 2021 and there are still people like you who have nothing more important to do than judge others just because of who they love, like tf?
@@RapIsDeadly if you don’t like gay people, don’t be gay. mind your business.
@@RapIsDeadly And, here we go again. Please mind your business, is anyone hurting you? NO, so what's the problem hun. 😘
So fans enjoyed their skinship, but when they found out it was genuine romance they were like "nah that sh*t's disgusting"....... fetishizing a sexual orientation to the max.
I don’t get those people … they just should let them live their life’s … human is human
Yeah it is like paradox
@@closer4130 a good word for this is "hypocritical"
Right, I find it so weird how people praise skinship in same-gender relationships but it's a problem when they come out as a same-gender couple??
Omg for real I literally have no words 😭
I was so happy when Aquinas outet himself as Bisexual and I also saw a lot of people being happy for him, I didn't knew he also got insulted because of that :(
Internationally he was accepted without a doubt, but in Korea not so much. They are still very conservative
Knetz are really crazy, imagine hating and calling someone abnormal just because they love someone, does it matter if its male or female or both? I guess time still stands still for most people.
Asian is very conservative in sexual orientation they only recognize 2 gender male and female if your not in those your a sinner that is it. Only few asian country is open and accepted the LGBT community
@@hangeldragon Taiwan
But South Korea not banned be gay or other minorities sexuality. So hard be gay in South Korea, but not banned like Russian
It's not their fault its the mentality they are brought up with . Like my country it's very rare to find LGBT supporters. I'm just saying, even i myself don't support LGBTQ because of d way o was brought. You guys may find it as a normal thing to be gay or lesbian that doesn't mean everyone will have the same opinion as u so just let Dem be
@@BTSARMY-sl3vh Taiwan is the only exception
I love Kpop but will never understand this. They have plenty of shipping and touching with male artist for fan service. But the real deal is the problem? 🤦🏾♀️
Shipping is fine but homosexuality is not? This is what’s wrong with the k-community. No matter what,they are people too and they are just build different…they are still human too if you don’t like them its fine but you don’t get to hate them,you are spiteful
I agree and that is so contradictory! They are so homophobic but yet they ship same sex members of the group. That just does not make sense.
I agree
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj Facts like it doesnt make sense
I am part of the kpop communuty and I really agree
Like you see people shipping idols, calling ship names,
And they will come out
They will get discriminated and also bash with malicious comments
Why?
Because there part of the LGBTQ+ community
Seriously if you like to ship a male to male or a female to a female idol
Pls support them and dont hate them if they came out as gay, bisexual etc.
@@Desolationisme Fr
Hi, this is KilliAN
Thank you for sharing my story in this video,
But so many facts are wrong…I will respond this and tell the truth asap..🙏🏻
this is the worst part about kpop. some “fans” and netizens are disgusted of the thought of their faves being a part of the LGBTQA+ community. like, what? you don’t own your idols’ life, so live your own and stop sending hate towards them
yess mahn trues up
True. Imagine how many kpop idols out there who are afraid to come out. I always believe that thier is atleast one LGBTQA+ in any group.
@@cynicnhel409 true.. I agree. I think there are still many but they cannot easily come out cos situations dont let them do what they want. And for sake of career, group, and family, it is not easy to be out of the closet.
They're the same people who ship these idols together and praise their skinship. It's really annoying.
@@cynicnhel409
We need to show some indirect support in some way so they would feel comfortable if they decide to come out, not like putting labels but some other ways to show support
It's very sad that idols have to hide their feelings on who they love, just because some people object to who they love because it's not a man and a woman. You should be able to love you love without hate and discrimination
I was so disgusted on hearing people said these idols were 'not pure' and ' doing a sin' like seriously what is the mindset of these people
Like they never do a sin before and that disgust me to the skin
@homosexualfemininemal6whis526 im sorry but can you explain the meaning. Its kinda hard to understand
@homosexualfemininemal6whis526 i'm a biology male
And i still think about my sexuality
When i just a toddler i think im gay but when im 13 i think i start to like a girl but now im 17 i think im aroace or demi
And i used to always been mocking by alot of my friend HECK even my own brother who is TOO religus and everything that are in lgbt are bad
It makes me so angry that they have to endure so much hate. But at the same time I admire their bravery and appreciate their contribution to a more open LGBTQ community
Holland are so sweet. I love him.
I'm asexual and I have decided to never tell anyone in my life this. Not my mom, brothers or anyone.
You don’t have to come out if you don’t want to. Either cause you don’t feel safe to do so, lack of support and understanding from their end, but know we are here and support you ❤️
I'm curious some people feel like they are obligated to come out... I;m really curious.
As for me. I won't disclose my orientation unless i'm asked, so with these people announcing it to social media...is there a need?
I'm asexual too. My best friends & mom knows about it :). A lot of my friends support LGBT community, but they don't understand what being asexual means. I feel sad when they ask more about it and i can clearly see that they don't understand or maybe dont want to.. but whatever, i'm happy what i have and other people don't matter to me ❤ԅ(¯﹃¯ԅ). So if you want to tell, do it, if you don't feel confident, then don't. Whatever makes you happy!
@@em.zl24 hi I'm from the ace community too. I am demiromantic and transgender ftm
@@matsurichan right?? I come out to my family and that shit only make It worse, now i wish i could just live my life without the pressure to tell anyone
If an idol lies about or hide their orientation I completely understand and I would never view them negatively for doing it. They have no choice if they want to make in the industry.
I always remember these lines by song ji eun when there are people who's bullied because of being gay:
Don’t look at me like that
We’re just in love, that’s all
Don’t hate on us, however you’re viewing us
We’re just a little different
Just leave us alone
Tell Me What Is Wrong
Tell Me What Is Love
I want to love however I want
I won’t change no matter what anyone says
Can’t we live in a world where time stands still?
Why? Why not?
We did nothing wrong
Why? Why not?
We’re so in love
May I know the song name??
@@pinkul1692 don't look at me like that by song ji eun
That song were made for lgbtq. It was so ahead of its time especially in Korea.
@@chrislo2533 Yes exactly it was 2014 way way ahead of its time. She got so much hate for this songs but they still made it and they never tried to hide it's meaning. In the description of the song they said this song was about love between same sex, different ages, different races and other possibly prejudged and stereotyped relationships
I love this song
I'm wishing *KILLIAN* gets his chance to successfully be a actor or musician and I hope the same for every artist or actor that has struggled gets they're chance to shine
With the amount of skinship that the kpop culture does, it's obvious we're gonna have a lot of gay couples. And I'm sure that it's much more than we have ever thought. Team sports show us how intimacy and too much contact make people fall in love with eachother haha
THIS.. how they get away with it, while other fans see it as nothing just skinship, but could be something more, due to ban dating. I'm sure they some end up dating each other for curious or not be lonely moments.
It's... not kpop culture, it's literally just Korean culture. Korean people are comfortable with skinship partly BECAUSE they don't ever interpret touches among members of the same sex as romantic or sexual. That stems from homophobia, of course. And that in and of itself makes your point incorrect: Koreans are used to a lot of intimacy in their personal friendships. It's not going to make them fall in love with each other any more than they would regularly do. It requires a same-sex attraction as a prerequisite, not just... you being very close and comfortable with your friend.
Learn how korean people interact with each other before you making an assumption about their sexuality,if you use your logic it mean all of kpop group are gay
I'm trying to answer both of you there are hours, but YT keeps deleting the texts cause they're long and they have too many censored words, and I didn't even write anything bad, just carefully explaining whats heteronormativity and why touchy cultures help people figure it out themselves in any part of the word, cause this is about biology. And that straight people will keep being straight regardless, but there are much more queer people in the world than people would like to admit.
You just have to use some logical and think: why korea forbid the press to leak gay couples or gay content? They exist and they're are afraid to make people know about that and you too just believe their censored press. They aren't exception when we're talking about our animal instincts. Straight people will be straight regardless, but touchy cultures help other sexualities to figure themselves out, it's logical and obvious.
They are so freaking brave, I admire them like really ! They perfectly know that a lot of fans won’t accept them but they still go on and do their coming out ! I’m really proud of them. Especially Holland, even if he suffered from being bullied at school for saying he likes a man, he still announced it to the whole world, he’s really incredibly brave.
In “Good Girls” mnet show Sleeq was one of the contestants and she spoke about being vegan and a lesbian, she even did a performance with a pride flag and the rest of the cast (famous idols like Jamie, Jiwoo Kard, Yeeun CLC) seemed quite supportive. I was very happy to see it
Good Girls was amazing! Wish we could get a season 2 or something with the same cast!
@@nabi7052 sameeeee, im rewatching it for the 3rd time since it came out! the cast is amazing really wanna see them collab
Psy, do yo thang, be the company that breaks all the barriers
We need more drama like itaewon class and so not worth it that will represent LGBT , LGBTQ so mindset People will change and they stop making fun of them or thinking them as abnormal
Preach!
I was so surprised and happy when a mainstream kdrama (at least internationally) had a trans character, I hope more people watch it and realize that we aren't weirdos, perverts, or 'bad people who will taint our children'. We're just normal people living our lives
There’s another drama called mad for each other, a character is a drag queen and id say the way they portrayed the character was pretty good and respectful
The younger generation in Korea, specially females, are quite open and accepting of LGBT+ it’s getting better but yes it’s still very unacceptable :/
@@fdscrl6016 the younger generation doesn't know much about second gen idols like jokwon and amber liu 🥺 they have been supporting LGBTQ since second gen kpop
i want knetz to explain how tf the gay webcomics in korea are so popular and some even won an award when they act like this irl. they’ve got to be one of the most hypocrite people ever
c’mon, dont generalize a whole 50 mil ethnic group and calling them hypocrites. its obvious as to why sk would still be considered a conservative and traditional country, its getting better but comments like that aint gonna do anything. knetz get a bad rep but from comments ive read on naver theyre not ALL bad, afterall its just korean netizens, and all we can do is hope for a change at some point
@@rjlee-cc4xy also one of the most popular Thailand lgbtq series ' I told sunset about you ' won the award in South Korea.
why do people hate us so much... all we did is have different preferences of dating etc..
🥺 there are people who supports LGBT+ community. Even though I am not a part of it I do support and respect you guys! I wish people will be more open minded in the future. Don't be afraid to love whomever you want to ok?
These people who hate towards LGBTQ+ are just cowards . They don't have gut to stand up for themselves and make changes in the world . All they could do is spread hate . I am not a part of Lgbtq+ but it piss me off like how people put conditons and barriers even in Love . Love is such a pure feeling that when ur are in love it does not even matter who the person is.
It's OK to be different and don't mind those who hates you because I love and respect you ❤
Religion has created a deep repulsion for homosexuality within religious people. They take it literally as God's word (though it was written and altered by humans thus should be read with discernment rather than blind belief) which is why their belief is unshakable and their hatred (which they believe is love because they believe they're "saving us" from "sin" and "h*ll") flows seemingly without end. It creates this twisted scenario where they believe they are doings God's work by repressing and hating on the lgbtqi+ community. Please do not take any of their vitriol personally or take it to heart. I know it is hard and stings and cuts deep but you deal with their twisted hatred by learning to love yourself just as you are and shine brighter than before, learning to live unapologetically as yourself. You sit tenderly with your pains and where society showed you cruelty and hatred, you show yourself love and tenderness. Self-love is truly the greatest gift you can give yourself especially when society meets you with disdain.
Take care of yourself, you are loved just as you are. 💖🐱
I support you and love you no matter what💕🤗😍
How ironic, they ship people of the same gender but are close-minded with all their prejudices.
i’m sorry but as a lgbtq+ person myself it’s so funny to me about how kpop fans think the whole industry is straight. like 1000+ groups, idols, bands, etc. are not all straight. i’m just waiting till the day some big idols come out. also wanna see how ppl react to that^^
Exactly!
I totally agree and many just assume that everyone is straight. Sorry but that is not possible and only homophobic people would automatically assume that everyone is straight. That is not right either.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj Goodness, can you imagine everyone in KPop being straight!🤭 It's just not statistically possible. I appreciate that there are many very young naive fans (not saying all of them are like it), aswell as homophobics. 💜
Yes i'm also waiting for that day to come.
I wish I had a huge house so I could adopt all those in need of love, support and understanding. Talent is talent no matter what you are attracted to.why the hate? They are beautiful wonderful individual that deserve everything good in the world.
now I understand why most idols keep silent about their orientation and support to LGBTIQ+, after all south korea is very conservative to this day
idgaf who their partner is. if they entertain me and make good music i’ll support them
Wish everyone would think like yoi
Wow, one day I am wishing that JYP will receive the biggest comeback regarding Killian. The pain he felt for losing IU in his company. I want him to regret it and learn his lesson.
I think he rejected mamamoo members too.
JYP himself comes across as very Gay!
@@clodaghthessen717 lmao true. But tbh he can't do anything about gay idols, you know how fans can be, his company might go down
@@moonlight-im8ik anthough i think that it wasn‘t bc he was gay but bc he was dating. I think idols have dating bans and they will most likely be thrown out of the entertainment if they break that. But ofc the factor being gay may have also played a role
@@anutyagi6906 really? I just know about this. Well it's their big loss to skip on Mamamoo then. They're in my opinion the best and most all rounded girl group in Kpop recently. All the member is equally incredibly talented.
This makes me feel so terrible, that idols have to hide part of who they are and can’t truly be themselves because society still hasn’t evolved enough to accept that love is just love, and it doesn’t change who you are as a human. There must be many closeted idols out there because their careers depend so much on backwards societal standards.
I don’t know why people don’t like it when kpop artist come out but then it’s western artist people are always supportive and happy for them like what the heck
It is because Korean society is still very old school and homophobic. The western societies are more modernized and open minded so of course they are more accepting of the LBGTQ community. It is sad that Korean and other traditional societies are still so old school and treats the LBGTQ community so badly. It makes me so sad...
I am totally Proud of Idols who live their truth. I am also sad that they get the hate they do not deserve it. Stay strong my beauitful Idols
We are all humans🤗 we should support each other no matter what🤗
Being the part of LGBTQ community in Ukraine on this day is almost the same now , someone needed to start this but someone need to go and give those people support for what they did too
Wish i could help them without getting highly harassed for it
I'm glad some channels like this get to talk about serious topics. Also, LGBTQIA+ people deserve better.
Why did the woman whistle while she was talking?
@@teresadownes2422 ?
Jyp really grosses me out. I know they definitely have created amazing groups and so much good content… but he really has made me uncomfortable ever since I saw him like dirty dancing with some probably trainee where he like slammed her into a wall with her legs wrapped around him on stage simulating sex…. The idols in the audience looked mortified.
Attitudes on gays in SK lag those of areas of the global community most predisposed to absorb K Pop. It is sad that a nation which has transformed itself from poor to an economic powerhouse over a couple generations struggles to handle the idea that comportment and fundamental human rights are not equivalent. Stripping an individual of the right to participate equally within a society by deeming human characteristics as inherently antisocial is an antiquated concept which hopefully SK will grow out of. God bless each of the pioneers who will suffer but in the end may be namelessly transformative to a society not fully prepared to accept 21st century values.
I love how supportive everyone in the comments are.
It’s makes me rlly sad to see how much hate and discrimination idols and people get for just being apart of lgbt+ community.
No one should ever experience that.
I hope it one day will better.
You’re loved and appreciated no matter what.
I will never understand how they love skinship but will shame and kick someone out if they are gay. Its just sickening they are treated that way. Love is love.
its really sad man. the community or the fans are okay while their idols have skin-ship and make and read same gender fan fics bout them but not okay when they actually come out.
Knets: *Ships male to male/female to female idols*
Knets: omg we love it
Also knets: *Idols comes out*
Also knets: So you have chosen death
It’s Honestly Heartbreakingly Real That No Matter How Talented People are Small Minded Individual’s Lose Their Humanity and Discriminate People Who Should Absolutely BE CHERISHED!!! They go Through ENOUGH to just Be Themselves No one Should have the RIGHT TO HURT THEM WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES!!!! Because in all reality they already questioned themselves and degraded themselves But HERE’s a TRUTH FOR YOU THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY MORE DESERVING OF HAPPINESS AND LOVE because they have gone through The fires and Survived!!! Everyone would definitely have a change of mind if it were known that they passed away Because of Bullying and those Parents that Do Love their Kids would Absolutely have every right to ask for Justice!!! Life’s Precious and I will definitely support him/ her or trans because being a good person is also a True Blessing to Others!!’ Please Remember to be Kind/ Caring & Loyal!! This is my opinion and beliefs because I have suffered to give birth to my kids it’s my duty to give them Love and my understanding!!! Unless you know the loss of a child you don’t know pain! I hurt for them all that they are hurt for just being who they are!!!
"Brave or reckless?"
Reckless for themselves & their personal careers...
Brave for raising their voices and creating representation to give others the encouragement to be themselves; and brave for planting the seeds of change by stepping into the dangerous waters of hateful culture.
Good on them, I'm proud of their actions. I hope for their sakes that the culture will change enough in the next few years so that they themselves can experience positive effects. But, regardless, they have started something in motion for supporting LGBTQ+ people of both the idol scene and the rest of the country - and other nationalities around the world who find support and strength in seeing their idols come out!
So your saying K-pop companies such as Jay why pee do that?! I should’ve known oh wait, I have. There has to be more trainees coming from YG, SM or even HYBE. As they say never judge a book by it’s cover. Such a shame there isn’t a company out there that supports you no matter your orientation.
JYP is probably gay himself!
Hurmm. This channel did not tell the real reason why he was kicked out. He got caught dating with male trainee in which a very big red flag for idol agency.
@@Kai-el7rw IKR
Even if the company would support you, the so called "fans" wouldn't. The chances of a lot of idols and trainees belong to the LGBTQ+ community is huge, so my guess is that they keep silent for the sake of their careers, and I do not blame them. It takes a lot to come out to this judgemental world
I hope there will be a company like that soon coming from a group with a fairly big fanbase that support LGBT too. Something needs to change in this industry.
Funny how these narrow-minded haters say that they're not clean enough to be in this industry. Fact check! The Kpop industry is not clean lol. The fact that the kind of "fans" these people exist is proof of that AND, that's just one of the reasons.
People: It would be awesome if my fav idol was gay
Also people: Write gay fanfics of their fav idols
LGBTQ+ Community Idols: I'm Gay
People: Eww wtf
THE DOUBLE STANDARDS
Literaly!! Why are they like this.... It make me sick sometimes
I'm from Holland (Netherlands) and i'm realy pissed at all the disgusting K netizens and agencies who critisize these artists. Who the hell do they think they are! It's none of their f***ing business! Mind your own and leave them be. I'll support them all. Love is love, no matter in what way. They deserve happiness just like everybody else! Point intended!
I love how people finds it diusgusting when the k-pop star is really homosexual but put them into an gay/lesbian shipping with another member when this Idol is in a Girl- or Boygroup, a human needs a bit of love and even if it's the same gander true love is first then when both partners are comfortable around each other!~
It's sad in 2021 this is still an issue. I know it's gotten better but not quick enough and not without many people still suffering based on their orientation.
You can make a difference by truly supporting the LGBTQIA+ community & speaking out when it is safe to do so.
Many hugs, Z.
I never understood why on earth in Korean tv shows make idols to do so many games that look like gay games and Companies approved Ship members with others same sex members?? BTW Fans love that. But when some of then says...you know what, I like men! And the drama begins....Ricky Martin is my ultimate favorite artist in the whole world. I had admired him since he was 12 and he was in MENUDO. When he got out of the closet I was happy for him because he can live his life now without feeling bad for show someone that he wasn't. Years has passed and now his married with a loving husband and 4 kids
There are so many obviously gay idols. It's sad that they can't be TRUE to themselves within the industry.
I really love Holland for his music and his personality but some people only talks about the kissing scene on his MVs and him being gay like wtf?! why gotta be so toxic and homophobic kpop/music is supposed to be for everyone who has the talent.
When seeing this video and others similar, I lost my temper. Loving someone is not a sin. I started to share this video and my reasoning as to why we need to view this video. I'm an ARMY fan of HYBE's group BTS. When becoming part of a large fandom base, I noticed how we as fans contribute a lot of hate by shipping a member(s) in a group. We choose members in a group to ship because some want them to be intimate with one another to satisfy their self-gratification of love. Some just don't and will make videos to enjoy, support, and love them for their artistry. When fans ship their biases, in my opinion, they are also drawing others to make negative comments such as what Be Boss TV talks about in this video because of homophobia. Fans' imaginations cross the lines of who our biases should be with, or even thinking that these idols will marry them if they propose to them. These artists received countless death threats or physical and mental harm. In South Korea, there are no laws to protect those who are Gay and in the LGBTQ communities but here are those fans shipping them. Fans of Idol/Artists are part of the blame for reckless discriminate hate caused by shipping. This includes analysis of members without knowing they are part of the blame. The above video is real; suicide is the highest among celebrities in South Korea; remember that. Not only is suicide the highest among celebrities, but this country is also ranked #4 worldwide 28.6% of people die out of 100K people. If you care so much about Kpop, you will consider what a real fan will do to support these groups or solo artists. This includes all who take part in the Entertainment industry in South Korea and other countries. I thank BeBoss for bringing awareness about what it is like for those who are gay in the industry and hope others will share their opinions and this BeBoss TV video.
Exactly!!! Say it louder for the people in the back to hear you. I applaud you. 👏👏👏👏👏
well said!!!
Your blaming fans but what about the role idols and their companies play in being apart of the problem when it comes to drawing negative comments towards idols if people think their gay, their the ones doing the skinship for fan service and the company usually encourages it especially 3rd gen kpop, skinship was so heavily pushed for fan service it practically became soft core porn onstage so likes not act like it’s just all fans, fans want it cause they give it to them and then they continue to want it all the while being homophobes at the idea of idols being lgbtq+ for real so is the problem really fans shipping or is it the ignorance bigotry and homophobia of the people who want skinship and homoerotics but how dare an idol be gay for real, it’s ridiculous hold idols and the companies accountable in the role they play like you do the fans if you want someone to blame, they can’t have their cake and eat to oh giving fans homoerotic skinship but then get angry when they ship them romantically or think their gay, they can’t have it both ways, that’s not how it works
@@lovelydiva06 I’m not blaming all the fans bc there are some that don’t do it. I’m saying just bc they do skinship, be touchy with each other that gives some fans the perception they are gay. Some cultures are like that very close but that doesn’t necessarily mean that they are gay. Well most idols can’t even date bc of their fans even the mention of dating a woman and they go crazy but it’s cool to to ship them with each other that’s a double standard. I’m a fan BTS and the mere mention of a them having a woman friend or just going out with friends and some fans go crazy but you can ship them together with each other.
💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
If you love someone and they love you back than its love but our society don't understand such simple thing and look down on them
Is it me or are these hate comments sounding the same...like they are being done over and over by the same people...all this is sad and heartbreaking and proof we all have a long way to go..
companies are just afraid to judged by people saying "why do companies accept these?"
I respect that how daring they are even after knowing that could harm their fame and disrespect in society .
As a member of the lgbtq community this honestly made me cry. These amazing people don’t deserve the hate they are getting no one should be called things like that.
They have right decision because you can't escape from your own orientation. I love them and always support them. Being gay is not a sin it's a gift from God .🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
It's as if people expect Korean idols not to have a love life or a sex life like normal people. Sometimes I worry about people like JUNGKOOK of BTS who's been thrust into the industry at the tender age of 15. He must have not had a girlfriend yet or is still a virgin at the age of 23! People ought to give their idols some slack and not be too possessive. If they really want their idols to be happy, give them a chance to live normally, to have intimate relationships away from prying eyes. What's important is the amazing products that their talents can produce. What they do behind the cameras is their business, not the fans',
Oooh, he defo isn’t a virgin and his agency allows dating, but it can’t be public.
@@katarina5233 how do u know he's not a vigin. This is how rumors start
What is wrong with being a virgin
@@Kent9856 He is 23 soon 24 and looks the way he looks. There’s no way he’s still a virgin.
hmm, I heard in one Korean interview video on youtube that the younger generation admitted hitting it with sex earlier age. Could be the case with any Kpop in secret ofc, it's their business.
It’s ironic how straight idols from the same gender kiss each and everyone scream and laugh it out, and that made think like oh wow! I guess Korean people aren’t homophobic but damn they’re actually ruthless as hell.
proves that no matter gay, lesbian, bi, pan, straight, etc, not everything is sunshine and rainbows. when theres a bright side, theres always a dark side to it
theres nothing wrong with being LGBTQ+, when theres people who dont accept you, theres always people who will😊
Ladies and gentlemen, this is what we call it as double standards. At one side you enjoy skinship relation and pairing but doesn't accept when idols come out as gay. We are in 21st Century for God sake. These things should be normal by now.
You're bad if you do bad things. You can't be good if you still stepping someone's life. We are all humans. If it's a sin, then check our judgements too.
People need to know that half of these idols are either not straight or BI and they just don't wanna come out cause it'll ruin their career it might be your bias who knows...we don't know but if they decided to come out let's respect it
Really hope Korea and other conservative countries will be more open minded, I hope they'll be able to accept people's uniqueness and differences
I don't support lgbtq that doesn't mean I'm an old minded.
@@amnanisar7696 Yeah , you are right Not supporting LGBTQ+ does not mean you are old minded , it means you are a OPEN MINDED HOMOPHOBIC :)
@@user-ameriiiiicano I respect everyone but this is the thing I don't like and this doesn't mean I'm baad or whatever.
@@amnanisar7696 Well it ur opinion I cannot say much about . And as long as you are not hating on them its fine.
@@amnanisar7696 It means ur homophobic. Own ur homophobia with ur chest bigot.
Lmao D.I.P members completely rick rolled us. I didn't expect that. I was laughing so hard. Like they've been together for long time and we didn't even realize 😂😂😂
Also, how did their love life affect their careers? They performed well and made good music 💀
This is why I dislike knetz. They are so toxic, and honestly need a reality check.
Come on, not all of us are like that, we’re just Koreans on the internet. It feels a bit generalizing imo
The ironic part of kpop culture is that the boy bands of South Korea, by American standards, would probably be deemed highly feminine and presumed gay......for some anyway.
As a gay man myself...i always thought they were really soft on the eyes.😔 ijs
Sometimes, I think, Idols are becoming a product over being people. And this is horrible.
That comment about 'fans wasting money for the two to just be dating instead of giving fans music' really upsetted me
It’s funny how they hate these people but rlly love it when their idol skin ship
I don’t understand what’s going on in people’s mind like they have feelings too, they can feel pain.💔
It would be cool if MNH, the company Chung-ha is at, could take in some of the idols who are on this list. Chung-ha's company uses dancers who are apart of the LGBTQIA+ community. Maybe they would be more open minded than other companies.
Or maybe an American label that works with Asian artists could sign them.
It would be a cool project to start a whole group full of Asian artists, who were rejected from other companies, that are in the community.
It is never wreckless to be true to yourself & be who you are, regardless of a career. You only have 1 life to live & it can't be spent living it how others tell you to or think you should.
I feel really sorry for them. Come to Thailand, you will be living normal life no mattet you are LGBTQA. We have lots and lots of LGBTQA celebs. Even they revealed it after they famous, we still support and love them. No big deals
Untill and unless someone hurt my feelings I don't hate them. So why should I hate LGBTQ community if anyone of them doesn't hurt my feelings , they are just born as a human with uniqueness thoughts and talents .We lived in an advanced technology ,green & gene revolution going on ,we should accept them with respect and love no matter which gender we're born from God's love is beyond eternal. FORGIVENESS, LOVE, ACCEPTANCE, HUMBLENESS makes you a wonderful person.
Hahahha fans love shipping members but when they do start actually dating or when fans realized they weren't acting or something, they criticize them. Lol. What a mindset.
It doesn't make sense that they "ship" them and love "skinship" between the members, but won't support them if they are actually gay. That is f***** up!!
Kpop idols that have the ability to come out on their own are brave as hell and no one can convince me otherwise. Stay strong idols!🇰🇷🌈
These idols are so brave for coming out
This makes me so sad to see hate like this. Kpop industry love to speculate on their sexuality, then condemn them for coming out.
Brave, Brave and strong people, I would support LGBTQ+ as far as I can, they are real normal people like everyone else
Also keep in mind, that this isn't just the k-netizens but international netizens as well, as you can see from the examples of comments shown in the video. The k-pop stan community as a whole really need to reflect on our behaviours and how we perceive these idols.
Now I'll Stan them cause they are brave enough to come out in such a conservative society
Take it you haters. Eat toenails
Fun fact about me : Holland gave me so much hope and he made me feel so safe that I managed to come out as les to my mum and stepdad , I love Holland sm and it’s so unfair on how badly he is treated
Wow what killian went through is so sad i havent even heard about him until now i hope he gets a role sometime soon :(
And these are the same people who loves to watch bl drama and produce them but not accept them
I never understood why it bothers people so much if someone likes the same sex like bro it's not your life so move on, people are so cruel.
I'm thankful for everyone speaking out and those brave enough to live out in the open.
You place everything on the line to come out in Korea. Your livelihood, safety and dreams.
This is why we should place no company or artist on a pedestal because there are so many celebrities who are homophobic and bully their fellow artists behind the scenes and in front of the cameras they put on a fake front.
I'm so proud of everyone fighting for human rights who have to face extreme backlash. They are the real idols.
Just remember there are so many fans and allies who love and support your art as well as your right to love who you want.
Thank you so much for covering this topic it's such an important issue that needs to be addressed.