I think the biggest win is that everyone who went to vote (about 74%!) felt like there was a diversity to choose from in terms of opposition parties and despite that the opposition parties are surprisingly united and willing to cooperate and there's a lot of respect in the air. Very mature behaviors in contrast to what was happening in the past.
It's how democracy ideally should work. When a far right extremist party threatens democracy and human rights, it's essential everyone who aren't hateful unite to defeat them.
Yes, the turnout was historic! More people turned out to vote 2 days ago, then in the election that brought us democracy for the 1-st time since WWII! Niech żyje Polska! 🇵🇱❤️🇪🇺
Next day after election and I feel so much joy! ;-). Great we are going to repair realations with EU. I hope all the socialist redistrubution provided by PiS will be cancelled and there will be easier to run bussines, since the taxes finally will be cut. I hope budget will be without deficit. One thing that should stay thou is the cost for an army improvement. This should be kept.
As a Pole here are main reasons for the change in power: 1) PiS (Law and Justice) had controversies every other week. Most of them weren't even funny or dumb like in case of Trump. They were horrific examples of incompetence, abuse of power, theft from the countrys budget, and arrogance unheard of since the previous government lost power. Example: vice minister of sport had a company that proposed curing by Mexican shamans to terminally ill children. They took tens of thousands of dollars for each one, which is huge. When confronted about it, he had his coworker pretend to have been paralysed, then "miraculously" stand up live in front of cameras. I wish I was making this up. That's the type of controversies we've been dealing with weekly for the last 4 years. 2) Donald Tusk's return to Poland. It's no secret that his party PO without his leadership is deeply divided and without a clear goal. By returning Tusk has united everyone, and got a hold of the campaign. 3) The opposition in Poland has clearly learned from Turkey, Hungary, and USA in 2016. They didn't speak as one body like liberals in those countries. Instead they reminded every single time, that they different from each other, but they all agree that PiS must go. Thanks to it, voters didn't feel like in USA, Hungary, and Turkey, that it was one man against a united clique. You had diversity in choice, and that made it really attractive. 4) Third's Way success. They had a dire time, when it was possible for them to not get sufficient amount of votes, and get into the Parlament. They could've also split. But not only did they settled their differences, didn't surrender, but also Tusk made a gamble to support them. He probably realised that there are a lot of Poles who want PiS gone, but they don't trust him personally (I myself am such person). So he probably decided to give such voters to Third Way. Also when it was possible for TW to not get into the Parlament, people instead of fearing to waste their votes, and chose other party, chose TW so that they do get into the Parlament. If there's wasn't risk of TW not making it at all, they'd probably didn't have succeeded this much. 5) polarized media. While PiS has turned public media into their own private propaganda tube, opposition had their own equal media - TVN. No matter how much TVN claims to be unbiased, they objectively are, and I'm saying this as the opposition voter. They are less biased than PiS' TVP, but they still clearly picked their side. 6) the opposition didn't actually oppose PiS' most important security program. They do agree to increase spending on defense (although not to such a degree), and excluding The Left (literally their name), they also oppose taking every immigrant in. However, The Left is the only party now supporting this idea, so there's no way for Poland to open borders for everyone. PiS has made security their prime goal, yet they failed to realize, that everyone actually agrees with them (mostly). So we didn't have here fear that liberals will definance our military, or open borders for massive immigration like in western Europe. Keep in mind that leftist here are sometimes considered right-wing in the west. 7) COVID-19. Not because PiS has made some extreme mistakes (although they did, people already forgot that). Majority of PiS' voters are retirees, and they were hit the hardest by the pandemic. It's quite possible that PiS would've won again otherwise. Our society is old, and reintees are the most active age group, with the vast majority of them supporting PiS, so it used to be a great strategy.
Interesting fact is that when you look at the map how Poland is divided when it comes to voting it almost perfectly corresponds to how Poland was partitioned between Russia and Prussia at the beginning of the xix century. For me as a pole it’s extremely interesting how the influence of that event holds still 200 years later when it comes to mentality of polish people, dividing them into progressive and conservative.
In Germany there is something similar albeit more recently. You can very clearly see a cut trend in voting between former east and west Germany. Especially regarding Russia friendliness. The eastern regions are far more pro Russia than the western. Even after the invasion.
The same split is seen in Ukraine where west part that was part of Commonwelth is more prowestern compared to eastern part that was part of Moskovia/Russia. Its fascinating how mindset sits in peoples heads for multiple generations.
Much love and congrats to Poland From Finland! Poland is our spirit animal and soulmate! We've both got a passion for democracy, progress and for forever resisting Ruzzian imperialism!!
In fact as polish everytime i watch foreign news about poland i see so much missunderstanding and way too much oversiplifatication I start to doubt that i know anything about foreign countries untill i watch their local news.
That's kinda the case in every country, including Poland, things get twisted up to sound how they want it to sound, in fact, that's been happening a lot more in Poland with how much control the PIS have over the media. Best advice, get news from multiple sources around the world and put it all together on what seems logical, after all, I'm British, if I were to listen to the local news, they give the impression that the UK held all the cards on Brexit against the EU, it was all BS and now the Brits are seeing that after Brexit, local news is actually worse because it's got a slant on how people want to see things and not how things are, after all, imagine what the local news in Russia are telling the Russian people.
That's true for everything in the media. Any time you listen media report on a topic you know well, you're left wondering just how shit reporting on everything else is. And TLDR specifically makes a lot, and I mean _A LOT_ of mistakes in their videos.
@@tkg__ yeah, what I strongly recommend- when something important and interesting happens, spend some time on checking local reporters, commentators, professors and other highly educated People then check them while looking for information, when the country is not english speaking, check specialists from foreign affairs bureaus. Not like here- basically bunch of People thinking that they have something interesting to say after one day of events basically anywhere.
Official election results: PiS (Law and Justice): 35,38% KO (Civic Coalition): 30,70% Trzecia Droga (Third Way): 14,40% Lewica (Left): 8,61% Konfederacja (Confederation): 7,16% Turnout: 74,38% And by the way, I highly doubt, that Tusk will be new Prime Minister (I think he even said, that he don't wont to be).
Luckily they were voted out. The party only agitated against Germany and the EU. Although Poland is the largest net recipient in the European Union with 12.9 billion euros. By far the largest part of it is paid by the Germans!
A Pole living in the Netherlands. I work with many Croatians here. Some of them are my close colleagues. It's nice to get to know a new culture and a few words. Croatians are more open, talkative and friendly. This is my opinion.
@roastntoast7550 you have no idea what you're talking about so be that kind and shut da FK up! Mind what is happening in your own country and don't discuss things you gave no clue about!
Note: Duda isn’t a member of the PiS since his presidency, bit rather a support of their vision. Polish president’s give up their political memberships after being elected.
@@williammclaughlin8205 ??? What does "safest" have to do with Duda? The point is the constitutional power lies with the PM and president, and neither exercises their power without the consent of Kacynski, the defacto ruler of Poland for the last 8 years. That may now change.
I'm a Polish citizen, not avoiding politics, and this is the first time I hear about the supposed investigation against Tusk that you mentioned at 3:30 😕
I think what's going on is that the video is trying to portray both sides' claims, without putting much value into their validity. If you've watched TVP news you'd have heard about it 100s of times by now, if you watch TVN you'd instead be aware of the government's mismanagement. The fact that such a divided coalition is gonna rule now really brings me hopes of reinstatint independent national television in Poland
This is about that whole bullshit with PiS introducing "foreign agents bill" and using it to investigate Tusk right before elections. It was a Putin-level smear campaign.
Unfortunately, all descriptions of parties are wrong in this video, Civic Coalition is a little bit populist center-left, Third Way is a coalition of agrarian party and Christian democratic one, Law and Justice is more like populist-conservative with Polish-Catholic twist, Confederation is a nationalistic-libertarian coalition. Also, Poland is not a semi presidential country, it has parliamentary system where indeed President can veto any act and to vote it down there is 3/5 of the seats in the lower chamber needed. I know this news was made in a hurry, but it seems that only the surface was scratched.
@@arpandas2296 It's more conservative than your standard European centrist party, but it holds more or less very similar positions to Democratic party in the US.
Greetings from Poland! You should check out the lines in which people were standing to vote (in some places till almost 3 am and restaurants in the area were donating pizzas to voters). It was incredible. I am glad I could have been part of the history of my beautiful country. As someone mentioned before, technically Duda doesn't belong to any party (obviously he still has sympathies). Hopefully, he won't make any big troubles and the new coalition will be agreeable.
President in Poland has no power at all. And election is illusion of choice. You chose the same people thinking soemthing will change. Prepare your wallet for higher taxes and prices ;) or prepare again to leave Poland for sure
Update about the results! They were published this morning and they're very similar to the exit poll!! The opposition coalition will have 248 mandates, while PIS most definitely won't be able to form a government
Powodzenia życzę w wprowadzaniu 🤣: Fit55 (podatków ekologicznych) co z tego że będzie KPO jak od 2024 auta spalinowe zostaną opodatkowane! a to nie tylko to -Polska będzie musiała przyjąć migrantów z Afryki co Polacy pokochają😂 - nie wspomnę o zakusach samorządów które chcą zdjąć 0 PIT dla młodych do 26l czyli ulga do 85 500zł jeb.. P - nabrało sensu wśród młodych jak przyjdzie zapłacić za to portfelem 🤣🤣🤣 powodzenia pipy
@@marysmik9812They won a plurality, but not a majority. And since the only party that could have made for a potential coalition party failed miserably, PiS has lost the overall election. They cannot form a viable majority government.
@@goggy8293 PiS prowadził najbardziej otwartą politykę imigracyjną od 1989, co btw widać gołym okiem w Warszawie. Więc jeśli Ci to przeszkadza (mnie nie) to chyba do nich powinieneś mieć pretensje. Nie mówiąc o aferze wizowej, gdzie wpuściliśmy do kraju za łapówki parędziesiąt tysięcy kompletnie niesprawdzonych osób - wszystko czarno na białym w mailach, które wyciekły z rządu. Ale żyj sobie w swojej banieczce dalej.
In Bristol which was one of the only polling stations in the south west of England there were people queuing for hours, amazing turnout wish we had such an attitude to our democracy
That's not going to last, people just really, REALLY despise PiS. It's the only ruling party that has managed to piss off this many people this bad ever since communism. Once the polarization drops a notch, most elections won't yield anywhere above 50%.
Poland will be more pro German and pro-Chinese maybe pro-Russian. Less pro US. But US paid for TVN contributed to it. After reading what the US Carnegie Institute said about Poland and that a government change would do US Interests well I no longer like the US. You guys are almost as bad as the Russians.
Although Poland is generally a very pro-EU society, our position on migration and unanimity is unlikely to change. As you mentioned, the future government will be made up of 3 coalition parties, which are made up of even more, around 8. And we don't want shootings or terrorist attacks on our streets. and what can I add that the Civic Coalition and the Third Way are able to form a coalition almost by themselves, they are only missing 9 MPs, so the left may not be that important
If you don't want them, you shouldn't have voted for those who support them☺. And if you did, don't complain. You must understand that choices mean what they mean.
I hope that you're not that naive to think, that new ruling coalition will listen to what people want. If EU wants to relocate some "refugees" to Poland, the only voice, that will be listened to, will be "herzlich willkommen". Elections are over, and it's time to forget what the polititians promised.
@@kacpersokoowski5208I don't really understand what you mean. Agreeing for forced migrations and getting rid of unanimity rule will simply be a suicide commited by the new (and likely unstable) government.
@@kacpersokoowski5208 good, becuse neither Tusk nor Hołownia nor Kosiniak-Kamysz (leaders of 2 biggest coalition parties) stated that they are in favor of immigration. Moreover Kosiniak said today he is against EU relocation program, so...?
I hope this is for the best for Poland. And thank you, Poland, from Ukraine, for your help and your support. We dont deserve this because our government are morons. I'm sorry for that.
You're welcome, my guy. For a long time, we saw our own government as awful. No matter who wins though, we will do our best to aid you. And hey, some of your government's worse actions do at least have a reason - you guys still have a war to deal with. The situation may have relatively stabilized compared to its start, but it's nothing to not be nervous about. Wherever you are, I hope you're safe!
@@Venom96930 and it's fair, Ukraine ignores their issues itself. They like to put their problem on someone else's shoulders. West gives them money so they can defend themselves and function like a state and they have the audacity (or stupidity) to steal it, instead of giving everything to the army. I don't see how anyone have a will to help.
This vote show that we in Poland still wants to be democratic country. We want rule of law to works in Poland. We wants to stay in EU. We are not Russia or Hungary. Im so happy now.
@MrSkully49 From us worrying we will end up like Hungary. PiS did some pretty shady stuff (for example the judicial reform) and their politics caused a lot of worries in a solid chunk of Polish society, thus the worries of us sliding when it comes to democratic system.
There's still a lot of division in the country, especially from west to east of the country, but yeah, this vote does indicate that a lot of people are not happy with the government, but we should remember that they still got most of the votes, even if they can't form a government, it basically means that Poland still has a lot of work ahead of it, especially in the eastern part. But with all that said, progress has been made here, maybe relations with the EU and Ukraine will get better and more constructive and not obstructive, it could also be much easier for the EU to deal with Hungary to get them to change, or maybe even kick them out if they don't change. I do know one thing, if Poland wasn't in the EU, Poland was quickly heading into being a dictatorship under the PIS government, it would have been much further along the line if Poland wasn't in the EU as the EU limits what Poland could get away with, personally, if Poland wasn't in the EU, I think Poland would have heading in the direction of where Russia is in how the goverment is run.
EU funds equal for less than 2% of Poland's GDP anyway, so it's more like a tax for Western economies to make their companies operate freely in Poland. TBH this is the least concerning thing right now.
@@dntbtherPoland is the biggest net beneficiary of EU funding valued at €11.6 billion in 2022..Polands gdp for 2023 is €658 billion .Average salary is €20,748 and the population is 38 million .Polands largest export markets are EU member States including Germany being the largest so my view is improving relations with the EU and a commitment to abiding by agreed rules of EU membership are the most important thing for Poland.
@@dntbther The EU is literally the be all end all of Poland's economy. from the funding, to the easy work travel (which is espcially vital for poland) to the export and import to and from poland. this idea that countries are "stronger without the EU" was proven false when the UK left.
@@marysmik9812i speak Hungarian and I also agree with the comments above. Our country is in real deep sh*t because of Orban. He needs to go with he's party NOW!!
That's not a good thing. Having European leaders that all merry go round systems of Belgium approved concensus just means less independent alternatives for our continent's future.
The irony is, Poland and Hungary backing each other up was the main reason that the EU couldn't deal with Hungary, if Poland doesn't back Hungary, the EU can get a lot tougher on Hungary, even to the point of kicking Hungary out of the EU, unless another EU member has their back, but none in the east will have the clout that Poland has. But we'll have to see what happens, if they can form a government and if they go through with reforming the system in Poland, saying they'll do it is one thing, doing it is another, but relations with the EU and Ukraine should get warmer now, Hungary on the other hand could find themselves really isolated and I've said it many times that I felt Poland could be saved, but I don't think Hungary can, so depending on what government Poland forms, it could be the right time to pile a lot more pressure on Hungary in the areas where they are rolling back on the rule of law, if that doesn't work, kicking them out of the EU might be the best option, I would rather find an alternative solution but unless the people in Hungary wake up to what the government is doing, kicking Hungary out might be the wake-up call they need just like the UK is getting with Brexit.
@@XomB neither pandering to Russia, china and turkey only and alienate all your neighborhood. Why not have a good relationship with EU and the rest at the same time. Oh yeah I forgot, Orban is a puppet.
You know nothing about Poland! From your "free" media? From Rai 1 2 or 3??? You're kidding. Lampedusa, you know what it is, right? You all in EU are crazy and you will end like The Roman Empire.
@@realmaxyatesyeah. many mistakes, misinformation or made up 3:00 tusk's problems with prosecutors. im engaged with politics, and i never heard abt it
@@ka0166Same situation for those of here in Chicago. You needed to register with the precise place that you wanted to vote at, then arrive with your Polish Passport on the day that voting opens.
@@weeabooman2867 my man, we couldn't give less of a shit about Hungarians. You made your own bed with picking Orban, want to stay poor and miserable? It's your decision. What we want is for your country to be marginalized in the decision making process since you sabotage it all the time.
Calling it a victory of Tusk is a bit of a stretch... He received less votes, than PiS did, you're counting the result of two other parties "The Left" and "The Third Way" as if they're Tusk's parties as well.
It's a win for Tusk because it's likely going to result in him becoming the next prime minister. Sure, it would have been a bigger win if he managed to secure a majority for his party without needing the aid of coalition partners, but any election that ends up with you in control of the government is a won election.
@@soundscape26 he won't as long as Andrzej Duda is the president. It's the president who approves the prime minister in Poland, and customarily the prime minister is a member of the party that got the most votes.
@@fygfyg7242you're right, I was wrong. However it's worth noting that the president of Poland Andrzej Duda nominated Mateusz Morawiecki to form a government, although he is unlikely to form a majority government.
The highlight of the elections was when the losing party leader went to vote, he tried to cut in front of other people but they told him to go to the end of the line. Allegedly this was the first time in his life he had to stand in a line.
Cool story bro.Except he is old and used to live in communism.We had to stand in line for anything back than.I mean first part of your story may or may not be true.Second one is a lie.
@@kenbean75 For fhalfik you are a grandpa, a Mohair. Communism is like ancient Rome for these kids. Poland is fscked. Russia and the Germans will walk all over it. It won't be like 1939 but foreign interests will be favoured and foreign thieves will steal instead of local ones. At least with local thieves you get something back. Oh well.
A little correction. A lot of people falsely think that Confederation would go into coalition with PiS. They are conservative, but they're hard believers in free market and low taxes in contrast to PiS love to socialism. There seems literally no way for coalition for PiS.
Falsly or not, for sure it helped a lot in Confederation losing votes. And I doubt PiS had huge trust in this coalition anyway, because in last months they also were attacking Confederation, which sounds very dumb if you have high trust in the idea that it's your coalition partner candidate.
@@ladrok97 PiS never considered it, Konfederacja never considered it. Only the Marxist opposition thought such coalition could be a thing. PiS attacked Konfederacja even when they had nothing to gain from it. The countless made up allegations they spread in their own media was a point of no return. It was constantly like that even before Konfederacja started to officially exist. PiS wanted Konfededacja to fall apart or cease being a party all together. Konfederacja breaks PiS monopoly of being the only option for a right wing voter solely because it exists. Konfederacja is more right wing by every possible metric and it puts PiS in a bad light considering they always call themselves the united right wing. This contrast is what PiS always wanted to hide, as it puts them in a bad light.
@@darek4488 I mean it's not exactly hard to be more right wing in every possible metric when PiSs has been an openly socialist cuckservative party (as such a slave to the Americans) that only pretends to be against the EU (but only for their eurosceptic electorate). Considering their extremely corrupt and incompetent nature, somehow it is not surprising they would try to destroy their only logical possibility for an ally against the main opposition in the form of fanatical socialist EU slaves who take orders directly from Berlin and Gramsci's ghost, also extremely corrupt and mostly incompetent (and also insane, but more subtle than Lewica).
@@ladrok97 Somehow it is not surprising that Konfederacja got their percentage cut in half when you consider the inherently clueless nature of most voters in democratic regimes coupled with media allegations such as being called Russian agents for being reluctant in attitude towards the (artificial) Ukraine-Russia situation and for not stating to desire outright dictatorship (this gets them labelled Fascists, whatever the fuck that means). And for all we know it might just be greed or special interests of some manner making them lobby against this party, whom we can't even be sure is even who they claim they are like with any other party.
I'm not a Pole and haven't got a clue about internal Polish politics beyond having some vague recognition of names but I've been an admirer of Poland for quite some time so the thing I hope most that the election result does not do is weaken the country and set it back in any way.
The outgoing government set it back quite a way in terms of EU and other relations to the point that it was actively being excluded, and it has been weakening democracy (even dismantling key elements of it), so I'm positive Poland will be stronger in the coming years. What is the main determinant is as always the United States, so as long as Trump doesn't get back in the White House, things will be looking good.
@@sastrugi4471 they did chose a man that will follow anything germany will ask him to do we are witnessing the end of the Polish people and democracy in western Europe , Canada ? is that a joke ?
@ItachiGOAT How the hell would Tusk of all people be a communist xD Chill with the propaganda, there are way more sensible pointers against Tusk then repeating the usual PiS boogeymen stuff about Tusk being devil himself.
It will be difficult for KO (Civic Coalition -the Left and Donald Tusk) to maintain power because there will be not three but four parties in the Sejm. The Third Way was just an electoral committee, composed of two parties that have some common features, but will mainly promote their own interests.
It's nice video, but as always, if you're from another country you don't have a full context to what is happening because it's kinda impossible to get without living here. Probably no one is going to read it, but here is some light on a few things in mostly chronological order, or not: In 2010 we lost our president, along with a huge number of important people of government. This event is known as "Smolensk air disaster", the flight's purpose was taking many high-ranking Polish officials to ceremonies marking the 70th anniversary of the Katyń massacre, a mass murder of Polish intellectuals, politicians, and military officers by the Soviets during World War II. The plane was redirected to another airport than initially planned and hit a tree because fog was so dense that they could not assess height during landing. Everyone died. (greatly simplified but weather conditions played a crucial part in this crash, but there were much more reasons, but weather was most important). Lech Kaczyński who was a president, belonged to PIS (Law and Justice). It was an informational mess at that time, but one thought surfaced pretty quickly. We don't like Russians, it is almost universal belief for all poles, you can call it a generational trauma after communism and what Russians did to us under this political system. Now here's a question: Polish plane crashed on Russian territory under weird circumstances, was this an assassination? To this day, the answer depends on who you ask and where do you ask. Remember this event, it is going to be important later on. The political party in power during this time was the biggest part of the current Civil Coalition, called Civic Platform. They ruled in coalition with a party called Polish People's Party, currently part of a Third Way. Donald Tusk was prime minister at the time. It was not great times with many scandals related to those politicians, mostly corruption stuff, it did not help that new president from Civil Platform, name Bronisław Komorowski was... not a great choice, he was not respected, rather laughed on. I was too young to get a hold of politics at the time, but I remember that people hated this government and wanted things to change. The government managed to stay in power up to 2015, and this year changed everything. Remember Lech Kaczyński, president, who died in 2010? He had a twin brother, Jarosław Kaczyński, also member of Law and Justice, who managed to secure a win for his party once before in 2005. Poland is mostly conservative country, this has its perks and cons, but try to put yourself in this situation: You're most likely conservative, you've seen too many scandals related to current government, you are tired, you want things to change. So when someone like Jarosław Kaczyński, brother of a president who was or was not murdered by Russian (remember about generational trauma, you also don't like Russians) comes and says that he can fix the country, why not vote for him and his party in next elections? Like really, what are your other options, same politicians that always lie and steal from Civil Platform? Or maybe some really obscure party that won't even qualify? This is the most misunderstood thing about how Law and Justice came into power soon after that, people had their reasons to vote for them, very valid reasons. Of course, all political parties have their fanatics, but you don't win 235 out of 460 seats by fanatics. This happened in 2015. Remember that president who was not respected after his election? Coincidentally, in 2015 we also had elections for president. By some utter miracle, never known before guy - Andrzej Duda who was part of Law and Justice won those elections and boy, was he respected. You've probably seen many memes about politicians, they mostly picture flaws, that is what memes are for, we want to laugh, mostly laugh at fails. But memes about Andrzej Duda were a little different after he won, they pictured him as an absolute chad and anti-hero vibe figure. So now two things happened, Law and Justice won elections and had majority in both Parliament and Senate, and Andrzej Duda was their president (small important thing here, he left the party because law required him to, but it was clear where his loyalties lied). There was no force stopping them, we could just watch what would happen next. Let's check on our good friend, chairman of Civil Platform and former prime minister, Donald Tusk.... where the fuck is Donald Tusk? In Europe! In 2014, he was appointed as president of the European Council and left Polish politics for many years. From that point, his party Civil Platform started to get weaker, not having a strong leader probably did not help them during elections one year later. After leaving, he was not considered as a positive figure, people called him traitor and generally disliked everything related to his person. Okay, so we are in 2015 now, Law and Justice is in absolute power, but what is this party? You won't learn that from Wikipedia, the article seems to be written by someone who clearly wanted to show that they're pure evil, so let's try to characterize them a bit now. Law and Justice won elections two times, once in 2015 and a second time in 2019. For someone outside our politics, I could provide two descriptions on what this party was in both elections, and you would not believe that it is the same party. In 2015 they were conservative in terms of worldview and mildly socialist in terms of economics. They wanted to focus on families, so they gave them 500 PLN monthly for having a child (attempt to increase birth rate), not much but always something. Their public image was mostly about wanting to help "normal people" or "simple people", there is no perfect translation. Very important thing about this party is that they delivered their promises, which was never a case before and is still not heard of. It also helper that Jarosław Kaczyński had background with fighting communists and was not affected by any major scandals. But what if you are part of lgbt? They might tolerate your existence and maybe give you a few hardships on the way, but nothing major. What about that same-sex marriage? Nope. What about inheritance for such pairs? Nope. Want tax cuts that normal marriages have? You already know the answer. The party wants to help "normal families". Okay, so what about abortion? It is possible, and they won't touch it for now, and when they will, it is going to hit them back hard, but that comes later. After 2019 they were much more nationalistic and not just patriotic, socialism went through the roof, they raised many taxes, implemented new ones, completely misjudged covid situation and skyrocketed inflation, put us in a ton of debt and when asked about it, replied that they judge economic situation based on children smiling. This is not a joke, I would very much like it to be a joke. During 8 years of their power, many things changed. I'm trying to count things that worsened, but I just can't, the list just keeps on going and going. I will give you a sense of scale, remember Watergate in USA? It happened here in 2022 when Law and Justice was tracking and listening to conversation of opposite party members with espionage software they bought from Israel. In America, when they pulled this stunt, it resulted in impeachment. For us, the entire thing went silent after a few days. Read that again, days, not weeks, not months. People who voted on them did not care, and approval ratings did not budge. Pumping money in "public media" that basically functioned as a propaganda machines, fucking up education based on their beliefs, fucking up judicial system by making sure that people who work for Law and Justice are untouchable, banning abortion unless mother can die in result of birth, corruption on unimaginable before levels, saying that gays are not humans, our contacts with EU went in a weird way, where in euro parliament our prime minister agreed for reducing carbon emissions and back in Poland said that he protested about it. From EU perspective it was like: Which is it Poland? You want to work with us or not. The list just keeps on going, and going, and going. Also, president Andrzej Duda won next presidential elections, but his image changed to guy who signs everything Law and Justice brings him to sign. Only one of those things hurt Law and Justice in any meaningful way - abortion ban, it resulted in mass protests in the middle of covid lockdowns, approval lost during this time was never recovered, and in all likelihood played a huge part in current elections being won by opposition.
Now for current situation, during elections few parties entered to compete 1. Law and Justice, still under leadership of Jarosław Kaczyński. Still nationalistic and socialist, highly populist. 2. Civil Coalition under leadership of Donald Tusk, who came back from EU some time ago and pulled his party from possible disband to stable second political power in the country, good example that strong leadership matters. VERY moderately conservative in terms of economics but willing to go with socialism if it meant winning, highly progressive in worldview, but not far-left. They want to stop rule of Law and Justice, other than that, very populist. Treat those two parties as two sides of the same coin, but Civil Coalition side is covered in vomit, and Law and Justice side is covered in shit. If you add both parties, they ruled from 2005 to now in some way, be it majority or minority. Pick your poison. 3. Third Way under leadership of Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz and Szymon Hołownia. This is a coalition of two parties, Polish People's Party that you might remember from before, they ruled together with Civil Platform many years before, and second party Poland 2050. They went to elections together but declared that after entering parliament, they will split again (but after winning they said that this split needs to be reconsidered, because current form works). Mostly centric in economics and mildly conservative in worldview, but that also differs between parties. They're focusing on education, energetic stability and helping entrepreneurs. 4. The Left under the leadership of... many people, all other parties had very clear leaders, even if there were more than just one. This is not the case for The Left, they are more of a string of voices that want the similar things, not focused under strong personalities. If I had to pick someone distinctive, it would be Włodzimierz Czarzasty. The Left is a typical left party but stops before reaching communism (again, generational trauma). They fight for LGBT rights, shorter work weeks, more budget for public healthcare, typical things that left wing parties across the world fight for - helping people and evening chances. There are of course far-left voices that want income tax on some absurd levels, but it is unpopular opinion even within this group. 5. Confederation under leadership of Sławomir Mentzen and Krzysztof Bosak - This is where the fun begins, because other than Law and Justice, this is only coalition (and partially single party, I will explain that later) that is visibly on the right in terms of worldview. Difference lies in economics, they are all for free market and loosening regulations. They are highly against both Law and Justice and Civil Coalition and wanted to "flip the table". The structure of this party is composed of mostly 3 parties that decided to form coaltion on deep level and go to elections togeather as a single party. Things get tricky when you get to single parties because differences are quite big. New Hope under leadership of Sławomir Mentzen - economical part of Confederation, throw regulation away and let people earn money, fuck socialism, you might want to be catholic but no pressure, it's kinda whatever. National Movement under leadership of Krzysztof Bosak - similar but more right for worldview. You REALLY might want to be catholic here... and maybe not a woman if you support abortion. Confederation of the Polish Crown under leadership of Grzegorz Braun - Imagine being a person who thinks that 5G kills people, vaccines cause autism, and maybe that we should leave EU, this is the party for you. Far right part of Confederation, almost universally hated by everyone except their voters. Unclear on economic part, they just don't care. Due to being right in worldview, whole Confederation was suspected that after winning they will cooperate with Law and Justice, to which they declared many, many times - "We don't want to work with Law and Justice, nor Civil Coalition, we want to flip their table and sent leaders to retirement". Estimated to gain 10-15% in elections, but flipped. ----------------------------- Elections were a three-way war. Law and Justice vs Democratic Opposition (Civil Coalition, Third Way and The Left) vs Confederation. Results can be seen in the video, Democratic Opposition won and right now we are waiting for a new government to form. The last few weeks were really hard to follow because many things happened, but I can probably summarize the whole elections in a single sentence. We did not want Democratic Opposition to win, we just wanted Law and Justice to lose. Following years will tell if this approach was correct. Te be completely honest, I don't expect things to improve in any way, but maybe, just maybe, they won't get worse, but at this point I doubt even that.
Yup, pretty much that. Funny to think that of all of PiS's fuckups only one had a lasting effect but seeing polls over the last years shows exactly that. Abortion ban of 2021 cost them the elections. Also the fall of Konfederacja cannot be understated - they've been projected to reach double digit percentage of votes right until the very last weeks before the elections, and their monumental defeat can be attributed to: their limited ammount of voters (had it been a lower turnout they might have gotten more or less the same AMMOUNT of votes which would mean a highier percentage) and also their aging ex-leader JKM getting caught saying some inappropriate shit in an interview right before elections and sabotaging them, just as he always does. If not for that, and if Konf stuck to their word of being a wildcard and not cooperating with either side we might have easily had another elections coming up shortly.
MISINFORMATION, abortion can be legally performed if the mother's life or health is at risk (doesn't have to be in direct danger, which makes it open to interpretations - you can say the baby's arrival will damage your mental health and it still can be considered a valid reason). Also abortion can be legally performed if the pregnancy is a result of an illegal act (incest, r*pe). The only thing they banned is abortion under the circumstance that the fetus is "damaged" which also can be interpreted differently: as for now the main concerns are lethal damages of the fetus, but it can as well be a Down Syndrome baby. So no, abortion is not legal only when mother's life is at risk, that's clearly not true.
im fcking Polish and I know all that stuff but reading it all like that shit so entertaining, lost it at “so he had a twin brother” like how is that even real and it’s true and it sounds so funny 😭
yeah just bc that’s how it is on paper doesn’t mean that’s how it works, the created atmosphere made women start to die of sepsis cuz doctor decided to not perform an abortion
@@JakubFox-gk6pv jesteś idiotą tak jak ci którzy głosowali na po ZNOWU. To są tacy sami socjaliści tylko się zmieniają co kilka lat, grają na emocjach mas i przejmują pałeczkę. Chcecie zmiany? To na bogów skończcie głosować na tych samych dziadów od parudziesięciu lat, wielce mi oświeceni wyborcy po śmiech z waszej ignorancji
@@JakubFox-gk6pv a to nie było może tak że ci okrutni pisowcy, „kaci polski”, walczyli z komunizmem od początku ich istnienia? Ze szwabami (postęp edition) również.
After the elections it only cameout that they are nothing but a puppet of KO made to make people think that they vote for something else. True democracy
Why? How being in coalition with PO is being a 3rd way? Since I hate PIS and PO equally I gave them my vote (with heavy heart knowing they will join into coalition with Tusk...) but it was either that or not voting at all. They are same hacks as the rest (literally, since many of them were already in the government). Maybe people will wake up after nothing changes AGAIN after 4 years and we will have some actual decent voting options, that care about more about problems than how to steal and stay at the power by using populist slogans.
@@trynox4fun259 In senate election opposition made a pact not to fight each other and get one candidate for each region. This way it was a PiS candidate vs anti-PiS candidate and anti-PiS usually won. While sejm uses D'Hondt algorithm to relegate mandates, which favours big parties, in senate election there is one senator from a region who wins with simple plurality rule.
I think the idea that “ruling parties should change every so often” Is reasonable and fair. To keep them innovative and to keep the pressure on the people with power. Which is also, why I’m not exactly satisfied with Tusk getting back into power. We really should’ve chosen someone else to lead the opposition. Tusk had his way in the past and ruled so bad he got PIS into power. Now he’s back in the driver seat. That makes it seem like polish people have no memory. There were other opposition options. This seems like a bad loop instead of a good look.
@@stanisawzokiewski3308 We would have lost our democracy if PIS remained. I was given an option to vote and voted for the leftists, but there is only one opposition coalition and they chose Tusk.
Interesting fact: According to Polish Constitution, division of power is per Montesquieu's "trias politica", so the president should hold the executive power and form the government. However, since always, MPs keep on fighting for ministerial positions, so they hold both: legislative and executive powers. Sadly, nobody cares or understands the difference. Maybe one day...
Hi, I think you used the same picture for both Lech and Jaroslaw Kaczynski. They were twins but the former died tragically. He was the face of law and justice before his death. Also confederation was never aiming to be in coalition with law and justice. Other parties were using this argument to get their votes. In fact confederation had the lower agreement rate from all of the parties in the previous period.
Sziambor was kicked out of konfederacja because he disagreed with idea of making coalition with pis, at least according to him. This talks were not public obviously. and considering that konfederacja changes their program daily i would not be suprised.
@@madtechnocrat9234 Also, remember the pro-government Do Rzeczy magazine cover from right before the elections where they directly called for a Polexit, complete with a Korwin-Mikke icon in the upper right corner. That could not have been just the editor's whim. And Do Rzeczy is actually quite possibly the single least biased of the pro-PiS papers out there, there actually is some dissent from the party line there every once in a while. The moment I saw this cover, I felt that "This is what they're going after: a coalition with the Confederacy and an outing from the EU".
Quite good summary, especially for foreign channel. But there are some minor things that were oversimplified or misinterpreted. If you don't mind I'll explain them ;) 1) I'm Pole and I've never heard about this investigation. This must be some minor accussation that we had many during campaing. But yes, Tusk has his own controversies, the biggest are nationalization of Open Pension Fund (OFE) and agreeing for migrant relocation program. The last one had huge impact on political preferences in our country and Tusk resigned to serve as President of European Council in the middle of this ruction, what many people interpreted as running away from incomming lost. 2) Confederation denied multiple times the possibility of creating coalition with Law and Justice (PiS). 3) Poland didn't stop suppling arms to the Ukraine. Don't know where you got this information from. In Octorber they've got ZU-23-2 Hibneryt and we agreed to be rennovation center for Leopard 2. Maybe our help is smaller than year ago, but that's because we have nothing left. To put this in scale, Poland gave more than half of the tanks that Ukraine received. So yeah, we have perspective of becoming "military superpower", but for time being we're really vulnerable. So I not sure if new goverment is able to change anything on this field. 4) As for reforms, Tusk for sure is a big fan of EU integration, but there's one problem, Poles are not neccessary. Civic Platform (PO) already lost election because of pushing through Brussels proposals. To be honest, this is quite complex topic. We really like being part of the EU and most of people agree that conflict on rule of law should be resolved on our side, but we have our own opinion in many topics like migrant relocations, so Tusk need to be really cautious to not repeat his mistakes. 5) Technically President isn't a member of Law and Justice (PiS). Constitution disallows this, but that's his former party and for sure he's a supporter. 6) I'm not sure if anything center-right is left in Civic Coalition (KO). In the past Civic Platform (PO) had conservative fraction, but now they're more left-leaning as well as their coalitians, also Tusk called himself a socialdemocrat. 7) Funfact, Left is also a coalition. It was created by New Left (which itself is a merger of Democratic Left Alliance and Spring) and Left Together with some junior member like Polish Socialist Party, Labour Union and Social Democracy of Poland. So this goverment would be a coalition of coalitions.
@@chawker67 Well, I'm a Pole interested in military and what can I say? Every foreign channel I watch on UA-cam oversimplified this topic. Our army suffered 40 years of negligence and for example F-16 from 2006 for decades was our only fighter jet from XXI century. So often Ukraine's request were impossible for us to fulfill, because it would mean we have nothing left. What we could, we already gave and now our army's running on fumes. So what's about that "military superpower thing"? Invasion changed everything. Besides obvious need to replenish our arms after suppling them to Kiev, we realised that war is a real thread and we don't have capabilities to defend ourselfs. But changing that will take time. Now we're on stage of openning a tender and new goverment can close it.
I would argue that the far right in many places in Europe are a bigger threat than islamists and by extension the progressives/establishment eu-proponents are also a large threat by allowing the right wing to galvanize disaffected communities who are hurt the most by immigration and pro eu policies. Then there is climate change and how it will slowly creep up on everyone. Islamists rank below these. They are a problem, but they won't immediate cause major impacts on people's daily lives.
@theseproblemsmatter1 You know, them threatening us with nuclear weapons every now and then? Doing shady referendums in middle of their current war. And yeah, the whole war thing and them being very much hostile towards us.
As a Polish I must admit it's a very informative, competent and objective piece of informations about our election! I'm starting subscription right now! :)
Objective?! The title says "Tusk's victory". What victory? After all, his party has been beaten by PiS. The same false narrative is in the Polish media.
I just hope that Poland won't suddenly cut down on military expenses with a shift in power. It's a huge bargaining chip in NATO and a necessity for being this close to danger
I would guess that they probably wouldn't, given that their overall needs and interests are unchanged. if anything the buildup might be shifted to a more cooperative structure. but that's all idle speculation on my part
również Lewica która straciła posłów, a także Konfederacja, która z 12% poparcia spadła na 7% mówią, że zwyciężyli. Piękne wybory, bez żadnych przegranych, jak w jakimś konkursie dla dzieci, gdzie wszyscy są zwycięzcami.
Indeed Tusk is the worst what happened to Poland. Seems like people forget what he did with Poland society money from OFE. He just literally stole it by nationalization. After something like this he should be instantly disqualified for forever from political life in Poland ,but he is not. Of course he is not and he almost won this is just unbelievieble. Pis is trash also ,but i feel like now seriously bad times can come to Poland if he will make success coalition and make government. Sadly the only one party wchich was worth to vote on Konfederacja did everything to not win ,by not kick crazy people in side of the party + even faces of this party are like fanatical catholic what specially young people does not like. A lot of people thinks poland is great and strong country ,but this is not true ,most people for their salary just live from month to month and it is so hard to make buisness and most of them does not survive longer than 2 years when lower taxation ends. For people from germany and other rich countries our country is dream place to live cause costs of life for them are so low ,but for Poland people costs went increlibly to the up. Imagine in Poland when u make buissnes after 2 years ,every month u need to get around 500$ just for one tax ,now add rest costs and taxes ,this is just killing most of buisnesses at the start and leave everything in corporation hands or other big companies to monopolization market. I can write mucho more of absurdities this country. Also tusk will force Poland to take refugees and everybody see how it ends for countries who did this Sweden ,Germany are best examples od this. If European Union want to force Poland to take this people then we dont want to be in. I like country when i can go out in the night on the street and i can feel safe.
The actual depiction of party preferences emerges primarily at the level of election commissions or municipalities, representing the smallest unit of local government administration in Poland. Civic Platform holds a predominant edge only in major urban areas.
There is a thing about Confederation that need to be mentioned. They are against both political courses which are present in the current political discourse. They try to show themselves as a true third way so their coalition with PiS is very unlikely, they want to be an independent sphere of influence.
I cant wait for circus thats about to happen.Getting 2 parties to agree on anything is near impossible.Getting 3 parties to agree on anything is straight impossible.Shitshow is gonna be amazing!
Great material but you are not fact checking your info. 0:43, 1:41, 4:54 has very misleading message in lights of what actually has happened. Reading headlines is not enough.
So where is 1 milion of Izera electric cars? Where is 100000 cheap apartments for young people? Where is Central Airport? Where is PKS? Do you know no new contracts have been signed for highways for the last years? Did you notice polish workers are still working in the same place as before? I see no PiS created jobs or anything? Did you notice our debt was 780 billion now is 2000 bilion? Eu money has been held due to unlawful changes to court system. They just want to change Poland forever so PiS can reign forever. Same like Hungary and Russia. People voted against. So accept that. Yeah as it was completely different for the last years. I prefer to be a part of eu rather than part of ussr. Remember - Kaczyński is Russian agent. He was doing all he could to depart from eu and western values to Russian and Hungarian way where he could be a king of Poland.
@@Marszczak Kaczyński could learn from till recently openly Russian-friendly (as influenced by "big boys" - Germany, France) European Commision of ultra vires, treaty-breaking blackmailers. You demonstrate servile mentatlity.
RIP Poland , 10 years ago this guy was almost crucified by Poles and now he is returning with "EU experience", ppl are so dumb.... i also hate how whenever some government wont bootlick Brussels the claim "democracy and rule of law has eroded" pops out....every...single....time...
It might be a representative of the German minority. They used to get one guaranteed seat, although Polish media report that the German minority's candidate has failed to win a seat in the current election. But since Tusk is a German asset, it cancels out, lol.
the come back of tfuuSSk as a Prime Minister will be a disaster for Poland, economy down, unemployment up, germans buying Polish best companies for nothing.
You may know, you may not know but Third way's leader, Szymon Holownia, is former journalist and media star. He was Poland's got Talent host, for example.
At which time, despite boasting a pretty impressive 188 cm in height, he was consistently seen by the whole country as a midget on account of always being in the same frame with another celebrity, Marcin Prokop, who in turn happens to stand an NBA-like 206 cm. Always found it funny whenever the two of them would approach a pre-adolescent kid contestant and would tower over him while crouching on the floor.
He will be Poland's new defense minister and will do a good job of overseeing Poland's defenses against the Russians. He's more than qualified for this.
7:08 Considering the past few months this might be a strange change of pace but this is actually unequivocally very good news so that wording of the ad just doesn't at all fit in this case...
Heh, nie wszystko będzie dobrze. Będą jeszcze ciężkie czasy. Ale nie martw się młody. Mój śp. dziadek co urodził się jako poddany cara Mikołaja II mawiał: "przeżyliśmy zabór szwedzki, przeżyjemy i radziecki". I mu się udało, bo umarł za demokracji. Nasz naród jest wytrzymały. Nasze motto narodowe to: "jakoś to będzie" 💪
Polska polityka jest bardziej skomplikowana niż to zostało przedstawione w tym filmie. KO i TD mają podobne poglądy a lewica się trochę różni od nich. Przez to rząd może być niestabilny. Niestety Polskę czekają mroczne 4 lata.
@@Usmieszekk Chodzi mi o to że bez 3 drogi lub bez Lewicy nie będzie rządu, więc jakoś trzeba będzie się dogadać i to cieszy. Nie ma takiej grupy społecznej której nie byłaby reprezentowana w nowym rządzie.
That’s so interesting that a president is a member of a political party. For example in Latvia if you get elected as the president you have to leave the political party you are a member of. (If you were in one ofc)
@@Yassified3425I mean, in Poland it is a very difficult thing, because you only can put the officials like President in front of the State Tribunal. And its only for a very serious charges, like national treason. You can't impeach somebody like in US, when even lying about having sex or not with your intern can lead to an impeachment process (hi Clinton!). Sure, you can "force" it through, but then how it will make the new goverment different from the old, "Orbanist-like" one...?
During the electoral campaign Civic Platform was forced to accept Law and Justice's social programs. There is also no possibility for another "reset" whith russia. So there will be personal changes in government, but no significant change in policy.
I wonder how come Tusk's gov is labeled as centric? The fact that Third Way is leaning right wing does not change the fact that Tusk's party i now firmly on the left and they have Lewica as far left addition. The new gov will be far from centric.
PiS lost the Parlament and Government, but not power. There are many institutions that can't be touched without President's conset or overruling his veto and that won't happen for a long time.
Two years. Assuming that this victory can be replicated in the next election. Until then, the Sejm will have to look at ways to use the PiS reforms for their (the Sejm) intrest.
@@ConnorLonerganLaw and Justice also has control over the Constitution Tribunal and the Central Bank. Their cronies can easily derail any attempts to "clean up" for the next couple of years, after which the public opinion will get tired of the "dysfunctional" government.
@@ConnorLonergan People are simple in their majority. They will see the prices increasing, economy slowing and/or new laws getting bogged down in some ephemeric, legislative battles. Unless Civic Platform employes similar propaganda tactics like PIS did, the populace will not care about nuances; they will just see the old slogans "PO=poverty" or "Tusk=inefficiency" coming live. Please take a look what happens currently in Czechia, where Fiala's government try to clean up after Babis' wrecking the budget; people don't understand the macroeconomic picture, they simply see that ANO's government gave them monies, while the new coalition government impose austerity; and the latter's popularity is already dropping
garbage and childish. NOT voting is also a vote. registered to vote and refusing to participate in a scam is a vote of no confidence. Go vote in China and Korea and .. lol = USA Stupid. Go vote in Europe and get non elected EU 4th Reich psychopaths in Brussels working for Berlin
I’m not sure about the new government, but I’m also not sure about the old one either. As long as Poland can still keep their military spending where it is
I'm not sure, recession is coming, and even if we spend 5-6% of GDP it won't match France or UK's military. I feel like the plans might be scaled back, but it's hard to say.
@@PKM1010 The problem with the military spending, as PiS wanted, is that it assumed we have to equip and maintain a 300 thousand strong professional army. To achieve this, they created a new land army division. However, at this moment, we simply demographically cannot afford such an army, and at the moment we can barely muster 180k. This new division that I mentioned was created a good couple of years ago, and it still does not have even half the required men, and some of those are there simply due to being transfered from other units. Simply speaking, all this military equipment is nice but we might not have the need for all of this spending.
They can't and should not. To waste all the money to buy tanks is nonsense. I think their politicians are bribed to buy tanks. They even tell loads of idiots they need their tanks against Germany. 😊
Turnout in some of the cities in Poland was over 80% and in some places even over 90%! Thats absolutely astounding
This is not a time for staying out of politics (unlike the russians), Poland knows.
@@Blabla-od7vt Polish youth and middle class came out in droves ...
Can I have question? From the video I assume the official results aren't out yet. Is it true? If so, why?
@@PtrkHrnk based on 99% votes counted already...
they are out and have been for hours (at least 12), I guess the video was made before the results were out, that's why they're not included
I think the biggest win is that everyone who went to vote (about 74%!) felt like there was a diversity to choose from in terms of opposition parties and despite that the opposition parties are surprisingly united and willing to cooperate and there's a lot of respect in the air. Very mature behaviors in contrast to what was happening in the past.
It's how democracy ideally should work. When a far right extremist party threatens democracy and human rights, it's essential everyone who aren't hateful unite to defeat them.
Yes, the turnout was historic! More people turned out to vote 2 days ago, then in the election that brought us democracy for the 1-st time since WWII! Niech żyje Polska! 🇵🇱❤️🇪🇺
@@wile123456 Lmao. Check your ultimatums mr extremist.
Next day after election and I feel so much joy! ;-). Great we are going to repair realations with EU. I hope all the socialist redistrubution provided by PiS will be cancelled and there will be easier to run bussines, since the taxes finally will be cut. I hope budget will be without deficit. One thing that should stay thou is the cost for an army improvement. This should be kept.
@@victorkarlsson5183 Hey, Pig pfp, I'm an anti-fascist and anti-racist. That isn't extremism, that's called 'being normal'.
As a Pole here are main reasons for the change in power:
1) PiS (Law and Justice) had controversies every other week. Most of them weren't even funny or dumb like in case of Trump. They were horrific examples of incompetence, abuse of power, theft from the countrys budget, and arrogance unheard of since the previous government lost power. Example: vice minister of sport had a company that proposed curing by Mexican shamans to terminally ill children. They took tens of thousands of dollars for each one, which is huge. When confronted about it, he had his coworker pretend to have been paralysed, then "miraculously" stand up live in front of cameras. I wish I was making this up. That's the type of controversies we've been dealing with weekly for the last 4 years.
2) Donald Tusk's return to Poland. It's no secret that his party PO without his leadership is deeply divided and without a clear goal. By returning Tusk has united everyone, and got a hold of the campaign.
3) The opposition in Poland has clearly learned from Turkey, Hungary, and USA in 2016. They didn't speak as one body like liberals in those countries. Instead they reminded every single time, that they different from each other, but they all agree that PiS must go. Thanks to it, voters didn't feel like in USA, Hungary, and Turkey, that it was one man against a united clique. You had diversity in choice, and that made it really attractive.
4) Third's Way success. They had a dire time, when it was possible for them to not get sufficient amount of votes, and get into the Parlament. They could've also split. But not only did they settled their differences, didn't surrender, but also Tusk made a gamble to support them. He probably realised that there are a lot of Poles who want PiS gone, but they don't trust him personally (I myself am such person). So he probably decided to give such voters to Third Way. Also when it was possible for TW to not get into the Parlament, people instead of fearing to waste their votes, and chose other party, chose TW so that they do get into the Parlament. If there's wasn't risk of TW not making it at all, they'd probably didn't have succeeded this much.
5) polarized media. While PiS has turned public media into their own private propaganda tube, opposition had their own equal media - TVN. No matter how much TVN claims to be unbiased, they objectively are, and I'm saying this as the opposition voter. They are less biased than PiS' TVP, but they still clearly picked their side.
6) the opposition didn't actually oppose PiS' most important security program. They do agree to increase spending on defense (although not to such a degree), and excluding The Left (literally their name), they also oppose taking every immigrant in. However, The Left is the only party now supporting this idea, so there's no way for Poland to open borders for everyone. PiS has made security their prime goal, yet they failed to realize, that everyone actually agrees with them (mostly). So we didn't have here fear that liberals will definance our military, or open borders for massive immigration like in western Europe. Keep in mind that leftist here are sometimes considered right-wing in the west.
7) COVID-19. Not because PiS has made some extreme mistakes (although they did, people already forgot that). Majority of PiS' voters are retirees, and they were hit the hardest by the pandemic. It's quite possible that PiS would've won again otherwise. Our society is old, and reintees are the most active age group, with the vast majority of them supporting PiS, so it used to be a great strategy.
Don't kid yourself, most of Trump's controversies are horrific examples of incompetence, abuse of power, theft from the countrys budget, and arrogance
Thanks for your comment. Very informative.
2nd that ^, thank you
your example from point one sounds fucking wild. Thats actually above trump level shenanigans
Thanks for sharing you perspective!
6:24 Just to be clear. In Poland, the president cannot be a member of any party. After taking up the position, he must leave the party.
So? He is originally from PiS and has shown, multiple times already, where his loyalty lays.
Can you tell this to Andrzej?
@@martaszewczak7515Well I am sure that if president was a former member of PO his loyalty would be with oposition. Some things just can't be change.
hahaha dream on, remember that you are speaking about Andrzej "Dlugopis" "Debil" Duda, the pen guy which approves everything that Kaczynski demands
Ye but practically he is still on his party side but he might be turned to the new rulers party for something that the president would want
Interesting fact is that when you look at the map how Poland is divided when it comes to voting it almost perfectly corresponds to how Poland was partitioned between Russia and Prussia at the beginning of the xix century. For me as a pole it’s extremely interesting how the influence of that event holds still 200 years later when it comes to mentality of polish people, dividing them into progressive and conservative.
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In Germany there is something similar albeit more recently.
You can very clearly see a cut trend in voting between former east and west Germany.
Especially regarding Russia friendliness. The eastern regions are far more pro Russia than the western. Even after the invasion.
@@zerto111As always Russia is a negative influence
Map meme never dies
The same split is seen in Ukraine where west part that was part of Commonwelth is more prowestern compared to eastern part that was part of Moskovia/Russia. Its fascinating how mindset sits in peoples heads for multiple generations.
As a Pole, I think this is a very interesting analysis. Good job!
And I think he is paid for propaganda, Tusk did not win the elections and even PO did not win, only PiS won the elections in Poland.
@@Eltar_ PO and Trzecia Droga is more center party than left i think
@@Eltar_it literally is tho
Much love and congrats to Poland From Finland! Poland is our spirit animal and soulmate! We've both got a passion for democracy, progress and for forever resisting Ruzzian imperialism!!
Ja vitut.
you do know that now that tusk is in office, he is going to form a coalition with the communists? (Lewica). They are for the taxation of rich at 93%
No one cares about Indonesia.
@@awesomeguy2689i dont remember the US invading a free european country and killing hundreds of thousends of people🤔
@@awesomeguy2689us didn't make Poland disappear from the map, maybe your country got hurt by us but Poland is strong when us are strong
In fact as polish everytime i watch foreign news about poland i see so much missunderstanding and way too much oversiplifatication I start to doubt that i know anything about foreign countries untill i watch their local news.
Exactly! The Western supremacy unfortunately includes information on Spain, Italy, Portugal, and of course on our countries of former socialism.
Very well said
That's kinda the case in every country, including Poland, things get twisted up to sound how they want it to sound, in fact, that's been happening a lot more in Poland with how much control the PIS have over the media.
Best advice, get news from multiple sources around the world and put it all together on what seems logical, after all, I'm British, if I were to listen to the local news, they give the impression that the UK held all the cards on Brexit against the EU, it was all BS and now the Brits are seeing that after Brexit, local news is actually worse because it's got a slant on how people want to see things and not how things are, after all, imagine what the local news in Russia are telling the Russian people.
That's true for everything in the media. Any time you listen media report on a topic you know well, you're left wondering just how shit reporting on everything else is. And TLDR specifically makes a lot, and I mean _A LOT_ of mistakes in their videos.
@@tkg__ yeah, what I strongly recommend- when something important and interesting happens, spend some time on checking local reporters, commentators, professors and other highly educated People then check them while looking for information, when the country is not english speaking, check specialists from foreign affairs bureaus. Not like here- basically bunch of People thinking that they have something interesting to say after one day of events basically anywhere.
Official election results:
PiS (Law and Justice): 35,38%
KO (Civic Coalition): 30,70%
Trzecia Droga (Third Way): 14,40%
Lewica (Left): 8,61%
Konfederacja (Confederation): 7,16%
Turnout: 74,38%
And by the way, I highly doubt, that Tusk will be new Prime Minister (I think he even said, that he don't wont to be).
For Tusk goal is to be a president.
@@atam3977 He would definitely loose in the second turn, there will be other anti PiS candidates.
I'm thining Trzaskowski, or maybe somebody from the 3rd Way, since they are essential for Civic Coalition to form a government. But who knows.
Its crazy to think that there exist a "left" on a country like Poland after well... the URSS??
@@xboxTVGo
We already feel relief, mate
Much love and respect to the Polish people from Croatia! ❤
Retardi hrvatski
Same
Luckily they were voted out. The party only agitated against Germany and the EU. Although Poland is the largest net recipient in the European Union with 12.9 billion euros. By far the largest part of it is paid by the Germans!
A Pole living in the Netherlands. I work with many Croatians here. Some of them are my close colleagues. It's nice to get to know a new culture and a few words. Croatians are more open, talkative and friendly. This is my opinion.
@roastntoast7550 you have no idea what you're talking about so be that kind and shut da FK up! Mind what is happening in your own country and don't discuss things you gave no clue about!
Note: Duda isn’t a member of the PiS since his presidency, bit rather a support of their vision. Polish president’s give up their political memberships after being elected.
Duda is Kaczynski's puppet and dog on a leash, in Poland we call him "pen" because he signs everything Kaczynski tells him
He's not PiS, he's just under Kaczynski's thumb. At least until now. I think Duda can finally break free, if he wants to.
@@sastrugi4471why would he Poland is the safest nation in Europe
He will still do whatever Kaczynski wants though 😅
@@williammclaughlin8205 ??? What does "safest" have to do with Duda? The point is the constitutional power lies with the PM and president, and neither exercises their power without the consent of Kacynski, the defacto ruler of Poland for the last 8 years. That may now change.
I'm a Polish citizen, not avoiding politics, and this is the first time I hear about the supposed investigation against Tusk that you mentioned at 3:30 😕
there are a lot of mistakes in this vid
I think what's going on is that the video is trying to portray both sides' claims, without putting much value into their validity. If you've watched TVP news you'd have heard about it 100s of times by now, if you watch TVN you'd instead be aware of the government's mismanagement. The fact that such a divided coalition is gonna rule now really brings me hopes of reinstatint independent national television in Poland
This is about that whole bullshit with PiS introducing "foreign agents bill" and using it to investigate Tusk right before elections. It was a Putin-level smear campaign.
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@@alternateaccount4673that's how it always is...
If you guys waited until about 12 o'clock you would have got the final official distribution of parliamentary seats 😭
Yeah, they could have just waited until Wednesday to drop this to avoid any discrepancies. Also, it would be 11 AM for those Brits.
I have to apologize! PKW didn't publish anything yet, I wonder if PiS is up to something with that.
Unfortunately, all descriptions of parties are wrong in this video, Civic Coalition is a little bit populist center-left, Third Way is a coalition of agrarian party and Christian democratic one, Law and Justice is more like populist-conservative with Polish-Catholic twist, Confederation is a nationalistic-libertarian coalition. Also, Poland is not a semi presidential country, it has parliamentary system where indeed President can veto any act and to vote it down there is 3/5 of the seats in the lower chamber needed. I know this news was made in a hurry, but it seems that only the surface was scratched.
isnt civic coaltion very right wing
@@arpandas2296not by Polish standards.
@@wojciechkowalski8061 It isn't at all, not only by polish standards.
@@arpandas2296 It's more conservative than your standard European centrist party, but it holds more or less very similar positions to Democratic party in the US.
It’s based on Western standards not polish.
Greetings from Poland! You should check out the lines in which people were standing to vote (in some places till almost 3 am and restaurants in the area were donating pizzas to voters). It was incredible. I am glad I could have been part of the history of my beautiful country.
As someone mentioned before, technically Duda doesn't belong to any party (obviously he still has sympathies). Hopefully, he won't make any big troubles and the new coalition will be agreeable.
President in Poland has no power at all. And election is illusion of choice. You chose the same people thinking soemthing will change. Prepare your wallet for higher taxes and prices ;) or prepare again to leave Poland for sure
RIP Poland, have fun getting invaded by putrid Muslims
Wroclaw Jagodno voting line until 3am was something truly incredible to read about. Shows how determined the nation was!
Can I have question? From the video I assume the official results aren't out yet. Is it true? If so, why?
@@PtrkHrnk The official results are out since at least 12 hours
Update about the results! They were published this morning and they're very similar to the exit poll!! The opposition coalition will have 248 mandates, while PIS most definitely won't be able to form a government
Powodzenia życzę w wprowadzaniu 🤣:
Fit55 (podatków ekologicznych) co z tego że będzie KPO jak od 2024 auta spalinowe zostaną opodatkowane! a to nie tylko to
-Polska będzie musiała przyjąć migrantów z Afryki co Polacy pokochają😂
- nie wspomnę o zakusach samorządów które chcą zdjąć 0 PIT dla młodych do 26l czyli ulga do 85 500zł
jeb.. P - nabrało sensu wśród młodych jak przyjdzie zapłacić za to portfelem 🤣🤣🤣
powodzenia pipy
@@marysmik9812 PiS won the battle but lost the war.
Fitting since they ran our commanders out over ideological squabbles.
@@goggy8293 pis wydał ponad 5 razy więcej zezwoleń na mieszkanie w polsce dla imigrantów z afryki niż PO kiedy oni rządzili
@@marysmik9812They won a plurality, but not a majority. And since the only party that could have made for a potential coalition party failed miserably, PiS has lost the overall election. They cannot form a viable majority government.
@@goggy8293 PiS prowadził najbardziej otwartą politykę imigracyjną od 1989, co btw widać gołym okiem w Warszawie. Więc jeśli Ci to przeszkadza (mnie nie) to chyba do nich powinieneś mieć pretensje. Nie mówiąc o aferze wizowej, gdzie wpuściliśmy do kraju za łapówki parędziesiąt tysięcy kompletnie niesprawdzonych osób - wszystko czarno na białym w mailach, które wyciekły z rządu. Ale żyj sobie w swojej banieczce dalej.
In Bristol which was one of the only polling stations in the south west of England there were people queuing for hours, amazing turnout wish we had such an attitude to our democracy
That's not going to last, people just really, REALLY despise PiS. It's the only ruling party that has managed to piss off this many people this bad ever since communism. Once the polarization drops a notch, most elections won't yield anywhere above 50%.
Why?
@@EdekLay To what are you exactly asking why?
We had no choice at this point, PiS was really getting dangerously antidemocratic and brazenly corrupt.
bristol as in britain? people of britain can vote in polish election?
Whatever happens, I hope it goes well for Poland 🇺🇲💖🇵🇱
mass rapes and terrorism will happen as they flood the nation with third world crap.
Poland will be more pro German and pro-Chinese maybe pro-Russian. Less pro US. But US paid for TVN contributed to it. After reading what the US Carnegie Institute said about Poland and that a government change would do US Interests well I no longer like the US. You guys are almost as bad as the Russians.
I wonder if Warsaw faces Mecca? We'll soon find out.
Dzikusy do nas nie wejdą😅Polska nie jest jak inne kraje Europy.Kiedy to zrozumiecie wreszcie?😂
@@Bakambol Slowa innych kraji lata temu, a teaz muslandia albo africanizacja.
Although Poland is generally a very pro-EU society, our position on migration and unanimity is unlikely to change. As you mentioned, the future government will be made up of 3 coalition parties, which are made up of even more, around 8. And we don't want shootings or terrorist attacks on our streets.
and what can I add that the Civic Coalition and the Third Way are able to form a coalition almost by themselves, they are only missing 9 MPs, so the left may not be that important
If you don't want them, you shouldn't have voted for those who support them☺. And if you did, don't complain. You must understand that choices mean what they mean.
I hope that you're not that naive to think, that new ruling coalition will listen to what people want. If EU wants to relocate some "refugees" to Poland, the only voice, that will be listened to, will be "herzlich willkommen". Elections are over, and it's time to forget what the polititians promised.
@@kacpersokoowski5208I don't really understand what you mean. Agreeing for forced migrations and getting rid of unanimity rule will simply be a suicide commited by the new (and likely unstable) government.
@@kacpersokoowski5208 good, becuse neither Tusk nor Hołownia nor Kosiniak-Kamysz (leaders of 2 biggest coalition parties) stated that they are in favor of immigration. Moreover Kosiniak said today he is against EU relocation program, so...?
Oh but it will change, mate.. Tusk is too pro-EU, be assured he'll do their biddings.
I hope this is for the best for Poland.
And thank you, Poland, from Ukraine, for your help and your support.
We dont deserve this because our government are morons.
I'm sorry for that.
you do deserve it, Poland is with you 💗💗
Too bad because the our New government will definitely ignore the Ukraine Issues, sorry for that.
@@Venom96930 They won't. It'd be shooting themselves in the foot geopolitically.
You're welcome, my guy. For a long time, we saw our own government as awful. No matter who wins though, we will do our best to aid you.
And hey, some of your government's worse actions do at least have a reason - you guys still have a war to deal with. The situation may have relatively stabilized compared to its start, but it's nothing to not be nervous about.
Wherever you are, I hope you're safe!
@@Venom96930 and it's fair, Ukraine ignores their issues itself. They like to put their problem on someone else's shoulders. West gives them money so they can defend themselves and function like a state and they have the audacity (or stupidity) to steal it, instead of giving everything to the army. I don't see how anyone have a will to help.
This vote show that we in Poland still wants to be democratic country. We want rule of law to works in Poland. We wants to stay in EU. We are not Russia or Hungary. Im so happy now.
Czyli w skrócie jesteś zdrajcą skoro stawiasz unię wyżej od Polski
Poland was gonna be a democracy even if PIS won
I don’t know where this false rhetoric comes from that PIS wouldn’t be a democracy
@@MrSkully49 I live in Poland. Democrasy was dying for years. That was last moment for Poland to stop that madness and we stop.
@MrSkully49
From us worrying we will end up like Hungary. PiS did some pretty shady stuff (for example the judicial reform) and their politics caused a lot of worries in a solid chunk of Polish society, thus the worries of us sliding when it comes to democratic system.
There's still a lot of division in the country, especially from west to east of the country, but yeah, this vote does indicate that a lot of people are not happy with the government, but we should remember that they still got most of the votes, even if they can't form a government, it basically means that Poland still has a lot of work ahead of it, especially in the eastern part.
But with all that said, progress has been made here, maybe relations with the EU and Ukraine will get better and more constructive and not obstructive, it could also be much easier for the EU to deal with Hungary to get them to change, or maybe even kick them out if they don't change.
I do know one thing, if Poland wasn't in the EU, Poland was quickly heading into being a dictatorship under the PIS government, it would have been much further along the line if Poland wasn't in the EU as the EU limits what Poland could get away with, personally, if Poland wasn't in the EU, I think Poland would have heading in the direction of where Russia is in how the goverment is run.
I wonder if those billions of funds will get released to Poland when the new government fixes the situation, and how it's going to affect our economy
EU funds equal for less than 2% of Poland's GDP anyway, so it's more like a tax for Western economies to make their companies operate freely in Poland.
TBH this is the least concerning thing right now.
@@dntbther 2% GDP is a lot. Consider that defence is 4,5% and health is 5%. Imagine it would be spent in health it would be 40% increase in spending.
@@dntbtherPoland is the biggest net beneficiary of EU funding valued at €11.6 billion in 2022..Polands gdp for 2023 is €658 billion .Average salary is €20,748 and the population is 38 million .Polands largest export markets are EU member States including Germany being the largest so my view is improving relations with the EU and a commitment to abiding by agreed rules of EU membership are the most important thing for Poland.
@@dntbther The EU is literally the be all end all of Poland's economy. from the funding, to the easy work travel (which is espcially vital for poland) to the export and import to and from poland. this idea that countries are "stronger without the EU" was proven false when the UK left.
The polish stock market have better results after elections
This election can unblock the EU's struggle to deal with Hungary's rule of law violations.
@@marysmik9812i speak Hungarian and I also agree with the comments above.
Our country is in real deep sh*t because of Orban. He needs to go with he's party NOW!!
@@marysmik9812hungary is going to be a dumpsterfire
That's not a good thing. Having European leaders that all merry go round systems of Belgium approved concensus just means less independent alternatives for our continent's future.
The irony is, Poland and Hungary backing each other up was the main reason that the EU couldn't deal with Hungary, if Poland doesn't back Hungary, the EU can get a lot tougher on Hungary, even to the point of kicking Hungary out of the EU, unless another EU member has their back, but none in the east will have the clout that Poland has.
But we'll have to see what happens, if they can form a government and if they go through with reforming the system in Poland, saying they'll do it is one thing, doing it is another, but relations with the EU and Ukraine should get warmer now, Hungary on the other hand could find themselves really isolated and I've said it many times that I felt Poland could be saved, but I don't think Hungary can, so depending on what government Poland forms, it could be the right time to pile a lot more pressure on Hungary in the areas where they are rolling back on the rule of law, if that doesn't work, kicking them out of the EU might be the best option, I would rather find an alternative solution but unless the people in Hungary wake up to what the government is doing, kicking Hungary out might be the wake-up call they need just like the UK is getting with Brexit.
@@XomB neither pandering to Russia, china and turkey only and alienate all your neighborhood.
Why not have a good relationship with EU and the rest at the same time. Oh yeah I forgot, Orban is a puppet.
Keep up the great work!
You know nothing about Poland!
From your "free" media?
From Rai 1 2 or 3??? You're kidding.
Lampedusa, you know what it is, right? You all in EU are crazy and you will end like The Roman Empire.
There’s nothing “great” about this!
@@realmaxyatesyeah. many mistakes, misinformation or made up 3:00 tusk's problems with prosecutors. im engaged with politics, and i never heard abt it
@@realmaxyates Anything is better than the PiScommie mafia:)
Kudos to you for such well explained and presented situation. :)
It was worth queuing 2hrs to vote here in the UK! Poland, I'm always rooting for you! Good luck ❤✌
How did you vote in the uk?
@@ka0166 I voted in the local consulate , along with 3,000 other people
And let me guess that you voted for PO. And you most likely left Poland when they were in power lol😊
@@ka0166Same situation for those of here in Chicago. You needed to register with the precise place that you wanted to vote at, then arrive with your Polish Passport on the day that voting opens.
Any plans for coming back to Poland? You don't want to miss the "new Poland", do you? 😄
I love how "Law and Justice" sounds like "Law Injustice" when spoken quickly
That would be more accurate name for them
Also, PISs.
I prefer PiS (of shit) personally
@@okay4634 Buddy if we are adding letter , POo ... = tusk shithead 🤣🤣🤣
What do you think should happen to PIS voters?
This could be very bad for orban
Good, that guy sucks.
God I hope so.
As always, foreigners care more about how Hungarians live their lives than about the sorry state of their own countries.
@@weeabooman2867 and yet here you are, commenting on a video about Poland. Fucking bot.
@@weeabooman2867 my man, we couldn't give less of a shit about Hungarians. You made your own bed with picking Orban, want to stay poor and miserable? It's your decision. What we want is for your country to be marginalized in the decision making process since you sabotage it all the time.
Thanks Poland, good fortunes from portugal!
Thanks! 🇵🇱✌️
Calling it a victory of Tusk is a bit of a stretch...
He received less votes, than PiS did, you're counting the result of two other parties "The Left" and "The Third Way" as if they're Tusk's parties as well.
If Tusk ends up becoming PM then yeah... in practice he reached his goal.
It's a win for Tusk because it's likely going to result in him becoming the next prime minister. Sure, it would have been a bigger win if he managed to secure a majority for his party without needing the aid of coalition partners, but any election that ends up with you in control of the government is a won election.
@@soundscape26 He won't.
@@soundscape26 he won't as long as Andrzej Duda is the president. It's the president who approves the prime minister in Poland, and customarily the prime minister is a member of the party that got the most votes.
@@fygfyg7242you're right, I was wrong.
However it's worth noting that the president of Poland Andrzej Duda nominated Mateusz Morawiecki to form a government, although he is unlikely to form a majority government.
The highlight of the elections was when the losing party leader went to vote, he tried to cut in front of other people but they told him to go to the end of the line. Allegedly this was the first time in his life he had to stand in a line.
That was really funny to watch.
Cool story bro.Except he is old and used to live in communism.We had to stand in line for anything back than.I mean first part of your story may or may not be true.Second one is a lie.
@@kenbean75 For fhalfik you are a grandpa, a Mohair. Communism is like ancient Rome for these kids. Poland is fscked. Russia and the Germans will walk all over it. It won't be like 1939 but foreign interests will be favoured and foreign thieves will steal instead of local ones. At least with local thieves you get something back. Oh well.
@@kenbean75 nomenklatura
A little correction. A lot of people falsely think that Confederation would go into coalition with PiS. They are conservative, but they're hard believers in free market and low taxes in contrast to PiS love to socialism. There seems literally no way for coalition for PiS.
No way in hell PiS and Konfederacja will be able to form any sort of coalition. They are incompatible to the bone.
Falsly or not, for sure it helped a lot in Confederation losing votes. And I doubt PiS had huge trust in this coalition anyway, because in last months they also were attacking Confederation, which sounds very dumb if you have high trust in the idea that it's your coalition partner candidate.
@@ladrok97 PiS never considered it, Konfederacja never considered it. Only the Marxist opposition thought such coalition could be a thing. PiS attacked Konfederacja even when they had nothing to gain from it. The countless made up allegations they spread in their own media was a point of no return. It was constantly like that even before Konfederacja started to officially exist. PiS wanted Konfededacja to fall apart or cease being a party all together. Konfederacja breaks PiS monopoly of being the only option for a right wing voter solely because it exists. Konfederacja is more right wing by every possible metric and it puts PiS in a bad light considering they always call themselves the united right wing. This contrast is what PiS always wanted to hide, as it puts them in a bad light.
@@darek4488 I mean it's not exactly hard to be more right wing in every possible metric when PiSs has been an openly socialist cuckservative party (as such a slave to the Americans) that only pretends to be against the EU (but only for their eurosceptic electorate). Considering their extremely corrupt and incompetent nature, somehow it is not surprising they would try to destroy their only logical possibility for an ally against the main opposition in the form of fanatical socialist EU slaves who take orders directly from Berlin and Gramsci's ghost, also extremely corrupt and mostly incompetent (and also insane, but more subtle than Lewica).
@@ladrok97 Somehow it is not surprising that Konfederacja got their percentage cut in half when you consider the inherently clueless nature of most voters in democratic regimes coupled with media allegations such as being called Russian agents for being reluctant in attitude towards the (artificial) Ukraine-Russia situation and for not stating to desire outright dictatorship (this gets them labelled Fascists, whatever the fuck that means).
And for all we know it might just be greed or special interests of some manner making them lobby against this party, whom we can't even be sure is even who they claim they are like with any other party.
I'm not a Pole and haven't got a clue about internal Polish politics beyond having some vague recognition of names but I've been an admirer of Poland for quite some time so the thing I hope most that the election result does not do is weaken the country and set it back in any way.
The people who "set back Poland" may actually now be out of power!.
The outgoing government set it back quite a way in terms of EU and other relations to the point that it was actively being excluded, and it has been weakening democracy (even dismantling key elements of it), so I'm positive Poland will be stronger in the coming years. What is the main determinant is as always the United States, so as long as Trump doesn't get back in the White House, things will be looking good.
@@sastrugi4471 Trump Derangement Syndrome
Poland's economy has been growing well regardless of government in power.
@@sastrugi4471 they did chose a man that will follow anything germany will ask him to do
we are witnessing the end of the Polish people and democracy in western Europe , Canada ? is that a joke ?
As someone from Poland, I'm still lost, and both parties still seem for me to be just as dirty. What the hell is going on?!
Idiocracy, that's what happened. But we will survive, as always, but for what cost?
I am from Poland . Thanks for covering that. Good job 😸
Good night from PAPUA NEW GUINEA. I enjoyed watching your contents
It's not Tusk victory but opposition victory
Coministic opposition that is.
@ItachiGOAT
How the hell would Tusk of all people be a communist xD
Chill with the propaganda, there are way more sensible pointers against Tusk then repeating the usual PiS boogeymen stuff about Tusk being devil himself.
@@ItachiGOAT Sure, Beavis
@@ItachiGOAT Oh yeah, given their past Poles surely love Communism...
@@ItachiGOAT You the kind of guy who calls evereything to the left from Trump "communist"?
It is not a Tusk's victory!! There're three different parties!!
Anything is better than the PiScommie mafia:)
It will be difficult for KO (Civic Coalition -the Left and Donald Tusk) to maintain power because there will be not three but four parties in the Sejm. The Third Way was just an electoral committee, composed of two parties that have some common features, but will mainly promote their own interests.
Anything is better than the PiScommie mafia:)
It's nice video, but as always, if you're from another country you don't have a full context to what is happening because it's kinda impossible to get without living here. Probably no one is going to read it, but here is some light on a few things in mostly chronological order, or not:
In 2010 we lost our president, along with a huge number of important people of government. This event is known as "Smolensk air disaster", the flight's purpose was taking many high-ranking Polish officials to ceremonies marking the 70th anniversary of the Katyń massacre, a mass murder of Polish intellectuals, politicians, and military officers by the Soviets during World War II. The plane was redirected to another airport than initially planned and hit a tree because fog was so dense that they could not assess height during landing. Everyone died. (greatly simplified but weather conditions played a crucial part in this crash, but there were much more reasons, but weather was most important). Lech Kaczyński who was a president, belonged to PIS (Law and Justice). It was an informational mess at that time, but one thought surfaced pretty quickly. We don't like Russians, it is almost universal belief for all poles, you can call it a generational trauma after communism and what Russians did to us under this political system. Now here's a question: Polish plane crashed on Russian territory under weird circumstances, was this an assassination? To this day, the answer depends on who you ask and where do you ask.
Remember this event, it is going to be important later on.
The political party in power during this time was the biggest part of the current Civil Coalition, called Civic Platform. They ruled in coalition with a party called Polish People's Party, currently part of a Third Way. Donald Tusk was prime minister at the time. It was not great times with many scandals related to those politicians, mostly corruption stuff, it did not help that new president from Civil Platform, name Bronisław Komorowski was... not a great choice, he was not respected, rather laughed on. I was too young to get a hold of politics at the time, but I remember that people hated this government and wanted things to change. The government managed to stay in power up to 2015, and this year changed everything.
Remember Lech Kaczyński, president, who died in 2010? He had a twin brother, Jarosław Kaczyński, also member of Law and Justice, who managed to secure a win for his party once before in 2005. Poland is mostly conservative country, this has its perks and cons, but try to put yourself in this situation: You're most likely conservative, you've seen too many scandals related to current government, you are tired, you want things to change. So when someone like Jarosław Kaczyński, brother of a president who was or was not murdered by Russian (remember about generational trauma, you also don't like Russians) comes and says that he can fix the country, why not vote for him and his party in next elections? Like really, what are your other options, same politicians that always lie and steal from Civil Platform? Or maybe some really obscure party that won't even qualify? This is the most misunderstood thing about how Law and Justice came into power soon after that, people had their reasons to vote for them, very valid reasons. Of course, all political parties have their fanatics, but you don't win 235 out of 460 seats by fanatics. This happened in 2015.
Remember that president who was not respected after his election? Coincidentally, in 2015 we also had elections for president. By some utter miracle, never known before guy - Andrzej Duda who was part of Law and Justice won those elections and boy, was he respected. You've probably seen many memes about politicians, they mostly picture flaws, that is what memes are for, we want to laugh, mostly laugh at fails. But memes about Andrzej Duda were a little different after he won, they pictured him as an absolute chad and anti-hero vibe figure. So now two things happened, Law and Justice won elections and had majority in both Parliament and Senate, and Andrzej Duda was their president (small important thing here, he left the party because law required him to, but it was clear where his loyalties lied). There was no force stopping them, we could just watch what would happen next.
Let's check on our good friend, chairman of Civil Platform and former prime minister, Donald Tusk.... where the fuck is Donald Tusk? In Europe! In 2014, he was appointed as president of the European Council and left Polish politics for many years. From that point, his party Civil Platform started to get weaker, not having a strong leader probably did not help them during elections one year later. After leaving, he was not considered as a positive figure, people called him traitor and generally disliked everything related to his person.
Okay, so we are in 2015 now, Law and Justice is in absolute power, but what is this party? You won't learn that from Wikipedia, the article seems to be written by someone who clearly wanted to show that they're pure evil, so let's try to characterize them a bit now. Law and Justice won elections two times, once in 2015 and a second time in 2019. For someone outside our politics, I could provide two descriptions on what this party was in both elections, and you would not believe that it is the same party.
In 2015 they were conservative in terms of worldview and mildly socialist in terms of economics. They wanted to focus on families, so they gave them 500 PLN monthly for having a child (attempt to increase birth rate), not much but always something. Their public image was mostly about wanting to help "normal people" or "simple people", there is no perfect translation. Very important thing about this party is that they delivered their promises, which was never a case before and is still not heard of. It also helper that Jarosław Kaczyński had background with fighting communists and was not affected by any major scandals. But what if you are part of lgbt? They might tolerate your existence and maybe give you a few hardships on the way, but nothing major. What about that same-sex marriage? Nope. What about inheritance for such pairs? Nope. Want tax cuts that normal marriages have? You already know the answer. The party wants to help "normal families". Okay, so what about abortion? It is possible, and they won't touch it for now, and when they will, it is going to hit them back hard, but that comes later. After 2019 they were much more nationalistic and not just patriotic, socialism went through the roof, they raised many taxes, implemented new ones, completely misjudged covid situation and skyrocketed inflation, put us in a ton of debt and when asked about it, replied that they judge economic situation based on children smiling. This is not a joke, I would very much like it to be a joke.
During 8 years of their power, many things changed. I'm trying to count things that worsened, but I just can't, the list just keeps on going and going. I will give you a sense of scale, remember Watergate in USA? It happened here in 2022 when Law and Justice was tracking and listening to conversation of opposite party members with espionage software they bought from Israel. In America, when they pulled this stunt, it resulted in impeachment. For us, the entire thing went silent after a few days. Read that again, days, not weeks, not months. People who voted on them did not care, and approval ratings did not budge. Pumping money in "public media" that basically functioned as a propaganda machines, fucking up education based on their beliefs, fucking up judicial system by making sure that people who work for Law and Justice are untouchable, banning abortion unless mother can die in result of birth, corruption on unimaginable before levels, saying that gays are not humans, our contacts with EU went in a weird way, where in euro parliament our prime minister agreed for reducing carbon emissions and back in Poland said that he protested about it. From EU perspective it was like: Which is it Poland? You want to work with us or not. The list just keeps on going, and going, and going. Also, president Andrzej Duda won next presidential elections, but his image changed to guy who signs everything Law and Justice brings him to sign.
Only one of those things hurt Law and Justice in any meaningful way - abortion ban, it resulted in mass protests in the middle of covid lockdowns, approval lost during this time was never recovered, and in all likelihood played a huge part in current elections being won by opposition.
Now for current situation, during elections few parties entered to compete
1. Law and Justice, still under leadership of Jarosław Kaczyński. Still nationalistic and socialist, highly populist.
2. Civil Coalition under leadership of Donald Tusk, who came back from EU some time ago and pulled his party from possible disband to stable second political power in the country, good example that strong leadership matters. VERY moderately conservative in terms of economics but willing to go with socialism if it meant winning, highly progressive in worldview, but not far-left. They want to stop rule of Law and Justice, other than that, very populist.
Treat those two parties as two sides of the same coin, but Civil Coalition side is covered in vomit, and Law and Justice side is covered in shit. If you add both parties, they ruled from 2005 to now in some way, be it majority or minority. Pick your poison.
3. Third Way under leadership of Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz and Szymon Hołownia. This is a coalition of two parties, Polish People's Party that you might remember from before, they ruled together with Civil Platform many years before, and second party Poland 2050. They went to elections together but declared that after entering parliament, they will split again (but after winning they said that this split needs to be reconsidered, because current form works). Mostly centric in economics and mildly conservative in worldview, but that also differs between parties. They're focusing on education, energetic stability and helping entrepreneurs.
4. The Left under the leadership of... many people, all other parties had very clear leaders, even if there were more than just one. This is not the case for The Left, they are more of a string of voices that want the similar things, not focused under strong personalities. If I had to pick someone distinctive, it would be Włodzimierz Czarzasty. The Left is a typical left party but stops before reaching communism (again, generational trauma). They fight for LGBT rights, shorter work weeks, more budget for public healthcare, typical things that left wing parties across the world fight for - helping people and evening chances. There are of course far-left voices that want income tax on some absurd levels, but it is unpopular opinion even within this group.
5. Confederation under leadership of Sławomir Mentzen and Krzysztof Bosak - This is where the fun begins, because other than Law and Justice, this is only coalition (and partially single party, I will explain that later) that is visibly on the right in terms of worldview. Difference lies in economics, they are all for free market and loosening regulations. They are highly against both Law and Justice and Civil Coalition and wanted to "flip the table". The structure of this party is composed of mostly 3 parties that decided to form coaltion on deep level and go to elections togeather as a single party. Things get tricky when you get to single parties because differences are quite big.
New Hope under leadership of Sławomir Mentzen - economical part of Confederation, throw regulation away and let people earn money, fuck socialism, you might want to be catholic but no pressure, it's kinda whatever.
National Movement under leadership of Krzysztof Bosak - similar but more right for worldview. You REALLY might want to be catholic here... and maybe not a woman if you support abortion.
Confederation of the Polish Crown under leadership of Grzegorz Braun - Imagine being a person who thinks that 5G kills people, vaccines cause autism, and maybe that we should leave EU, this is the party for you. Far right part of Confederation, almost universally hated by everyone except their voters. Unclear on economic part, they just don't care.
Due to being right in worldview, whole Confederation was suspected that after winning they will cooperate with Law and Justice, to which they declared many, many times - "We don't want to work with Law and Justice, nor Civil Coalition, we want to flip their table and sent leaders to retirement". Estimated to gain 10-15% in elections, but flipped.
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Elections were a three-way war. Law and Justice vs Democratic Opposition (Civil Coalition, Third Way and The Left) vs Confederation. Results can be seen in the video, Democratic Opposition won and right now we are waiting for a new government to form. The last few weeks were really hard to follow because many things happened, but I can probably summarize the whole elections in a single sentence.
We did not want Democratic Opposition to win, we just wanted Law and Justice to lose. Following years will tell if this approach was correct.
Te be completely honest, I don't expect things to improve in any way, but maybe, just maybe, they won't get worse, but at this point I doubt even that.
Yup, pretty much that. Funny to think that of all of PiS's fuckups only one had a lasting effect but seeing polls over the last years shows exactly that. Abortion ban of 2021 cost them the elections.
Also the fall of Konfederacja cannot be understated - they've been projected to reach double digit percentage of votes right until the very last weeks before the elections, and their monumental defeat can be attributed to: their limited ammount of voters (had it been a lower turnout they might have gotten more or less the same AMMOUNT of votes which would mean a highier percentage) and also their aging ex-leader JKM getting caught saying some inappropriate shit in an interview right before elections and sabotaging them, just as he always does.
If not for that, and if Konf stuck to their word of being a wildcard and not cooperating with either side we might have easily had another elections coming up shortly.
MISINFORMATION, abortion can be legally performed if the mother's life or health is at risk (doesn't have to be in direct danger, which makes it open to interpretations - you can say the baby's arrival will damage your mental health and it still can be considered a valid reason). Also abortion can be legally performed if the pregnancy is a result of an illegal act (incest, r*pe). The only thing they banned is abortion under the circumstance that the fetus is "damaged" which also can be interpreted differently: as for now the main concerns are lethal damages of the fetus, but it can as well be a Down Syndrome baby. So no, abortion is not legal only when mother's life is at risk, that's clearly not true.
im fcking Polish and I know all that stuff but reading it all like that shit so entertaining, lost it at “so he had a twin brother” like how is that even real and it’s true and it sounds so funny 😭
yeah just bc that’s how it is on paper doesn’t mean that’s how it works, the created atmosphere made women start to die of sepsis cuz doctor decided to not perform an abortion
Hope it goes well for Poland whatever happens 🇺🇸❤️🇵🇱
6:12 Poland is definitely not a semi-presidential but a parlimentary republic
Yeah, I just wanted to comment about this. Caused me to review my knowledge again, and re-read Wikipedia :)
3:45 i love how the full results are out since about 9 o'clock (Warsaw time) but tldr still uses the exit poll numbers
Well, they made the video on Monday
@@xeanderman6688 Which begs the question... was there demand for an update so high they couldn't help but publishing the video right on the next day?
@@yarpen26 making stript, animation, recording it and editing takes time
Law and Justice is soooo ironic name for this party
Oh yes. Maybe "Pegasus and Scandals"?
This is going to have a big impact on Hungary as well as Poland and Hungary have had each other's back against the EU.
Sorry brother but people are dumb and manipulated by liberal media and liers like tusk.
4years and we will be back to support you promise
@@BogowSyn Byhahahahaha! PiS will be back in ruSSia by then :)
@@JakubFox-gk6pv jesteś idiotą tak jak ci którzy głosowali na po ZNOWU. To są tacy sami socjaliści tylko się zmieniają co kilka lat, grają na emocjach mas i przejmują pałeczkę. Chcecie zmiany? To na bogów skończcie głosować na tych samych dziadów od parudziesięciu lat, wielce mi oświeceni wyborcy po śmiech z waszej ignorancji
@@JakubFox-gk6pv a to nie było może tak że ci okrutni pisowcy, „kaci polski”, walczyli z komunizmem od początku ich istnienia? Ze szwabami (postęp edition) również.
The person that named the party 3rd way was a genius.
After the elections it only cameout that they are nothing but a puppet of KO made to make people think that they vote for something else. True democracy
Why? How being in coalition with PO is being a 3rd way? Since I hate PIS and PO equally I gave them my vote (with heavy heart knowing they will join into coalition with Tusk...) but it was either that or not voting at all. They are same hacks as the rest (literally, since many of them were already in the government). Maybe people will wake up after nothing changes AGAIN after 4 years and we will have some actual decent voting options, that care about more about problems than how to steal and stay at the power by using populist slogans.
There's a joke that "trzecia droga" is in fact "trzecia noga"; the third leg (of coalition).
The official results are as follows:
Polish Parliament (Sejm 460 Seats):
United Right: 194 Seats (35.38% Vote)
Civic Coalition: 157 Seats (30.70% Vote)
Third Way: 65 Seats (14.40% Vote)
The Left: 26 Seats (8.61% Vote)
Confederation Liberty and Independence: 18 Seats (7.16% Vote)
Polish Senate (100 Seats):
Civic Coalition: 41 Seats (28.91% Vote)
Law and Justice: 34 Seats (34.81% Vote)
Third Way: 11 Seats (11.50% Vote)
The Left: 9 Seats (5.29% Vote)
Independents: 5 Seats (5.66% Vote)
how its possible for Civic Coalition to have 41 seats at 28% when Law and Jusite has only 34 with 34%?
what?
@@trynox4fun259 Because the senate is first-past-the-post while the parliament is party-list proportional representation
@@trynox4fun259 In senate election opposition made a pact not to fight each other and get one candidate for each region.
This way it was a PiS candidate vs anti-PiS candidate and anti-PiS usually won.
While sejm uses D'Hondt algorithm to relegate mandates, which favours big parties, in senate election there is one senator from a region who wins with simple plurality rule.
@@santoshNarayana Mandates are not given proportionally, big parties are favoured by the algorithm.
Also senate is a part of parliament 😉
Poland doesn't have a semi-president system but a mixed system
So happy that I went to vote and contributed to this win. Whatever your views are, it's important that ruling parties change every so often.
People are so naive to think that Tusk is better, thank yourself then he will challenge polish zloty for euro.
Well done on destroying the country, PO and PIS is the same shit.
I think the idea that “ruling parties should change every so often”
Is reasonable and fair. To keep them innovative and to keep the pressure on the people with power.
Which is also, why I’m not exactly satisfied with Tusk getting back into power.
We really should’ve chosen someone else to lead the opposition. Tusk had his way in the past and ruled so bad he got PIS into power. Now he’s back in the driver seat.
That makes it seem like polish people have no memory.
There were other opposition options.
This seems like a bad loop instead of a good look.
@@stanisawzokiewski3308 We would have lost our democracy if PIS remained. I was given an option to vote and voted for the leftists, but there is only one opposition coalition and they chose Tusk.
@@stan3333stan Same. I'd rather endure 4 years of centrist rule than whatever PiS wanted ro implement.
Whoever wins, we wish all the best for Poland and its people.
Greetings from Ukraine ❤
All the worst to followers of bandera from Poland
Thanks! Don't listen to that s1b3r11 guy. We have a lot of russian trolls pretending to be Poles. We wish you good luck with your fight.
@@johnkowalsky1546 we have a lot of Nazi trolls like you from banderoland
@@johnkowalsky1546 I know) because I know Poles personally, not from internet, and honestly they are the nicest people
Much love 💕
@@irusia1574Thanks. And to you as well. Take care and be safe🌼☺
Just a little nitpick: the diagram in the thumbnail depicts the seat distribution from the 2019 elections, not this year's
My man actually mentioned that joke of a persecution they tried to bully tusk with... No way
Interesting fact: According to Polish Constitution, division of power is per Montesquieu's "trias politica", so the president should hold the executive power and form the government. However, since always, MPs keep on fighting for ministerial positions, so they hold both: legislative and executive powers. Sadly, nobody cares or understands the difference. Maybe one day...
Hi, I think you used the same picture for both Lech and Jaroslaw Kaczynski. They were twins but the former died tragically. He was the face of law and justice before his death.
Also confederation was never aiming to be in coalition with law and justice. Other parties were using this argument to get their votes. In fact confederation had the lower agreement rate from all of the parties in the previous period.
Sziambor was kicked out of konfederacja because he disagreed with idea of making coalition with pis, at least according to him. This talks were not public obviously.
and considering that konfederacja changes their program daily i would not be suprised.
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@@madtechnocrat9234 Also, remember the pro-government Do Rzeczy magazine cover from right before the elections where they directly called for a Polexit, complete with a Korwin-Mikke icon in the upper right corner. That could not have been just the editor's whim. And Do Rzeczy is actually quite possibly the single least biased of the pro-PiS papers out there, there actually is some dissent from the party line there every once in a while. The moment I saw this cover, I felt that "This is what they're going after: a coalition with the Confederacy and an outing from the EU".
@@madtechnocrat9234 Name any party that didn't changed their program on daily basis
@@histhoryk2648 Every party is changes their program, but not every party adamantly declares otherwise.
Quite good summary, especially for foreign channel. But there are some minor things that were oversimplified or misinterpreted. If you don't mind I'll explain them ;)
1) I'm Pole and I've never heard about this investigation. This must be some minor accussation that we had many during campaing. But yes, Tusk has his own controversies, the biggest are nationalization of Open Pension Fund (OFE) and agreeing for migrant relocation program. The last one had huge impact on political preferences in our country and Tusk resigned to serve as President of European Council in the middle of this ruction, what many people interpreted as running away from incomming lost.
2) Confederation denied multiple times the possibility of creating coalition with Law and Justice (PiS).
3) Poland didn't stop suppling arms to the Ukraine. Don't know where you got this information from. In Octorber they've got ZU-23-2 Hibneryt and we agreed to be rennovation center for Leopard 2. Maybe our help is smaller than year ago, but that's because we have nothing left. To put this in scale, Poland gave more than half of the tanks that Ukraine received. So yeah, we have perspective of becoming "military superpower", but for time being we're really vulnerable. So I not sure if new goverment is able to change anything on this field.
4) As for reforms, Tusk for sure is a big fan of EU integration, but there's one problem, Poles are not neccessary. Civic Platform (PO) already lost election because of pushing through Brussels proposals. To be honest, this is quite complex topic. We really like being part of the EU and most of people agree that conflict on rule of law should be resolved on our side, but we have our own opinion in many topics like migrant relocations, so Tusk need to be really cautious to not repeat his mistakes.
5) Technically President isn't a member of Law and Justice (PiS). Constitution disallows this, but that's his former party and for sure he's a supporter.
6) I'm not sure if anything center-right is left in Civic Coalition (KO). In the past Civic Platform (PO) had conservative fraction, but now they're more left-leaning as well as their coalitians, also Tusk called himself a socialdemocrat.
7) Funfact, Left is also a coalition. It was created by New Left (which itself is a merger of Democratic Left Alliance and Spring) and Left Together with some junior member like Polish Socialist Party, Labour Union and Social Democracy of Poland. So this goverment would be a coalition of coalitions.
3 is extremely important, that's why tldr; is probably not a good way of trying to understand politics
@@chawker67 Well, I'm a Pole interested in military and what can I say? Every foreign channel I watch on UA-cam oversimplified this topic. Our army suffered 40 years of negligence and for example F-16 from 2006 for decades was our only fighter jet from XXI century. So often Ukraine's request were impossible for us to fulfill, because it would mean we have nothing left. What we could, we already gave and now our army's running on fumes. So what's about that "military superpower thing"? Invasion changed everything. Besides obvious need to replenish our arms after suppling them to Kiev, we realised that war is a real thread and we don't have capabilities to defend ourselfs. But changing that will take time. Now we're on stage of openning a tender and new goverment can close it.
The two threats that face Europe: Russia and islamists. Poland seems equiped to take solutions against these dangers.
Europe seems to hurt itself more trying to stop them than ‘islamists’ actually do themselves. Poland is 90% Christian, it’ll be fine
I would argue that the far right in many places in Europe are a bigger threat than islamists and by extension the progressives/establishment eu-proponents are also a large threat by allowing the right wing to galvanize disaffected communities who are hurt the most by immigration and pro eu policies.
Then there is climate change and how it will slowly creep up on everyone.
Islamists rank below these. They are a problem, but they won't immediate cause major impacts on people's daily lives.
And now we can forget about this. Because opposition leader is EU's puppet
What makes Russia a threat?
@theseproblemsmatter1
You know, them threatening us with nuclear weapons every now and then? Doing shady referendums in middle of their current war. And yeah, the whole war thing and them being very much hostile towards us.
The classic Poland A and Poland B map.
I imagine Slovakia will become the new Poland when it comes to protecting Orban from EU rules.
As a Slovak, I don't think so. Fico's social democracy is highly dependent on EU funding, so I doubt he's going to go strongly against Brussels.
@@tekkencentre Really hope so. Bulgarian here sending lots of love to Poland, Slovakia, and also the hungarians that dislike Orban.
I am sure Orban will be relieved by that.
Wasn't Slovakia historically part of Hungary? Wonder when talks about an Anschluss will begin
@@chrisedrev9519 Orban is good.
@@HungaryBased
As a Polish I must admit it's a very informative, competent and objective piece of informations about our election! I'm starting subscription right now! :)
Objective?! The title says "Tusk's victory". What victory? After all, his party has been beaten by PiS. The same false narrative is in the Polish media.
@@nemeczek67his coalition won
@@Phoenix-ov5gg So Tusk has not won, right? As to the "coalition", Do not hold your breath on this one.
It wasnt objective about Konfederacja (Confederation), as they were called possible PiS' coalition partners, when they clearly denied that many times
@@nemeczek67 depends how you define winning, if his coalition forms and he ends up on the throne, isn’t that a win?
I'm very happy the Polish people took responsibility and went out in massive numbers. Turnout of ~ 75% ! Very good, Polish people.
great respect for trying (with pretty good results) prenouce Polish names :)
Please make a video about the recent election in New Zealand as well
It's a EU news channel
I'm not good at geography but I don't think new Zealand is in Europe
@@mikoajciemiega8018 they run multiple channels, including a global news one
Tldr run a global channel run by the same people as the eu channel but I understand your poiny
@@mikoajciemiega8018 Nobody said it was.
It should be obvious that I was talking about making a video on TLDR Global and not on TLDR EU.
@@hamalakarris577 sorry I didn't realize they had other channels
Anyway have a nice day
I just hope that Poland won't suddenly cut down on military expenses with a shift in power. It's a huge bargaining chip in NATO and a necessity for being this close to danger
I would guess that they probably wouldn't, given that their overall needs and interests are unchanged. if anything the buildup might be shifted to a more cooperative structure. but that's all idle speculation on my part
Unfortunately it will cut off all ties with the US and South Korea and cancel all of the current military contracts Poland is gone.
4 or 5 % of GDP is Too much spending.....why 96 Apache? why 500 Himars? Maybe cut in Half and for 20% of saved money buy more ammo?
Poland should cut down on thier military, what the hell are you on about. More money given to the military makes everyone else just poorer
@@engineerenginering8633 Not if you have war right outside your borders.
Both parties are claiming victory on social media which is funny.
również Lewica która straciła posłów, a także Konfederacja, która z 12% poparcia spadła na 7% mówią, że zwyciężyli. Piękne wybory, bez żadnych przegranych, jak w jakimś konkursie dla dzieci, gdzie wszyscy są zwycięzcami.
Turnout was best since the end of the WW1 in 1919, not just from 1989.
Brilliant news for 🇵🇱 Poland and 🇪🇺 Europe!
❤️ from 🇬🇧 UK
no we just become russian and german puppet those are terrible news
If you think Boris' government was bad for the UK, I have to tell you, Tusk's government was even worse
We dont want to become the Germans lapdog again
It means that young voters are gonna regret what they voted for as soon as they see what Tusk has in store for them.
disappointing truth
Indeed Tusk is the worst what happened to Poland. Seems like people forget what he did with Poland society money from OFE. He just literally stole it by nationalization. After something like this he should be instantly disqualified for forever from political life in Poland ,but he is not. Of course he is not and he almost won this is just unbelievieble. Pis is trash also ,but i feel like now seriously bad times can come to Poland if he will make success coalition and make government. Sadly the only one party wchich was worth to vote on Konfederacja did everything to not win ,by not kick crazy people in side of the party + even faces of this party are like fanatical catholic what specially young people does not like. A lot of people thinks poland is great and strong country ,but this is not true ,most people for their salary just live from month to month and it is so hard to make buisness and most of them does not survive longer than 2 years when lower taxation ends. For people from germany and other rich countries our country is dream place to live cause costs of life for them are so low ,but for Poland people costs went increlibly to the up. Imagine in Poland when u make buissnes after 2 years ,every month u need to get around 500$ just for one tax ,now add rest costs and taxes ,this is just killing most of buisnesses at the start and leave everything in corporation hands or other big companies to monopolization market. I can write mucho more of absurdities this country. Also tusk will force Poland to take refugees and everybody see how it ends for countries who did this Sweden ,Germany are best examples od this. If European Union want to force Poland to take this people then we dont want to be in. I like country when i can go out in the night on the street and i can feel safe.
03:06 These are anti-Lukashenko protests from 2020.
HE CAUGHT HIS PROPAGANDA IN 4K
It crazy that the party lines almost exactly follow the old German-Russia Imperial Border
You could think that way only if you are using an oversimplified version that isn't even using electoral districts as it's base of division.
The actual depiction of party preferences emerges primarily at the level of election commissions or municipalities, representing the smallest unit of local government administration in Poland. Civic Platform holds a predominant edge only in major urban areas.
Saying that Tusk abused power in the context of Law and Justice party is like saying coffee is a drug in context of cocaine
He literally stole retirement funds from citizens, so that's that.
@@xq1234wzts haha wypierdalaj.
@@xq1234wzts PiS propaganda BS for idiots🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There is a thing about Confederation that need to be mentioned. They are against both political courses which are present in the current political discourse. They try to show themselves as a true third way so their coalition with PiS is very unlikely, they want to be an independent sphere of influence.
I am surprised how accurate this video is :D Good job!
I cant wait for circus thats about to happen.Getting 2 parties to agree on anything is near impossible.Getting 3 parties to agree on anything is straight impossible.Shitshow is gonna be amazing!
Anything is better than the PiScommie mafia:)
Why is every country in the EU, completely clueless about the EU?
Every country in the EU is part of the EU... the EU doesn't exist in a vacuum.
EU struggled to accommodate Poland growing military and ecomony XDDDD Do you even heard what you just said?
Very good job ! Deep understanding of polish politics. Greetings from Poland.
I love the prononciations. There is clearly an effort put in there to be correct but they are still distinctly foreign and wrong in a funny way.
Great material but you are not fact checking your info. 0:43, 1:41, 4:54 has very misleading message in lights of what actually has happened. Reading headlines is not enough.
So Poland comes back into the role of Germany's client-state, province of EU and source of cheap labour force. Well done, compatriots!
So where is 1 milion of Izera electric cars?
Where is 100000 cheap apartments for young people?
Where is Central Airport?
Where is PKS?
Do you know no new contracts have been signed for highways for the last years?
Did you notice polish workers are still working in the same place as before?
I see no PiS created jobs or anything? Did you notice our debt was 780 billion now is 2000 bilion?
Eu money has been held due to unlawful changes to court system. They just want to change Poland forever so PiS can reign forever. Same like Hungary and Russia.
People voted against. So accept that.
Yeah as it was completely different for the last years. I prefer to be a part of eu rather than part of ussr. Remember - Kaczyński is Russian agent. He was doing all he could to depart from eu and western values to Russian and Hungarian way where he could be a king of Poland.
@@Marszczak Kaczyński could learn from till recently openly Russian-friendly (as influenced by "big boys" - Germany, France) European Commision of ultra vires, treaty-breaking blackmailers.
You demonstrate servile mentatlity.
RIP Poland , 10 years ago this guy was almost crucified by Poles and now he is returning with "EU experience", ppl are so dumb.... i also hate how whenever some government wont bootlick Brussels the claim "democracy and rule of law has eroded" pops out....every...single....time...
What's that one purple dot in the council, is it a small party or an independent candidate?
This one seat is reserved for The German Minority Electoral Committee
It might be a representative of the German minority. They used to get one guaranteed seat, although Polish media report that the German minority's candidate has failed to win a seat in the current election. But since Tusk is a German asset, it cancels out, lol.
It’s not reserved. He didn’t get in.
Well said 👏👌
Polska is back! 🇵🇱🏔
the come back of tfuuSSk as a Prime Minister will be a disaster for Poland, economy down, unemployment up, germans buying Polish best companies for nothing.
Breaking news: Poland voted Poo over Pis.
Piss*
You may know, you may not know but Third way's leader, Szymon Holownia, is former journalist and media star. He was Poland's got Talent host, for example.
At which time, despite boasting a pretty impressive 188 cm in height, he was consistently seen by the whole country as a midget on account of always being in the same frame with another celebrity, Marcin Prokop, who in turn happens to stand an NBA-like 206 cm. Always found it funny whenever the two of them would approach a pre-adolescent kid contestant and would tower over him while crouching on the floor.
He will be Poland's new defense minister and will do a good job of overseeing Poland's defenses against the Russians. He's more than qualified for this.
And his wife is a Mig pilot, maybe she is in charge for real ;)
7:08 Considering the past few months this might be a strange change of pace but this is actually unequivocally very good news so that wording of the ad just doesn't at all fit in this case...
This year I turned 18 and it was first time I could vote in elections. I'm so glad I could do that! Hope everything will be good from now on
Heh, nie wszystko będzie dobrze. Będą jeszcze ciężkie czasy. Ale nie martw się młody. Mój śp. dziadek co urodził się jako poddany cara Mikołaja II mawiał: "przeżyliśmy zabór szwedzki, przeżyjemy i radziecki". I mu się udało, bo umarł za demokracji. Nasz naród jest wytrzymały. Nasze motto narodowe to: "jakoś to będzie" 💪
@@mats8375 nasz naród da sobie radę 🇵🇱💪
Właśnie większość Polaków udowodniła całemu światu, że są idiotami. Okazuje się, że amerykańskie polish jokes nie były bezpodstawne.
Yeah same I was fucking shacking and voting like 5minutes xD
niech zgadne, lewica albo KO?
A bad day for Orban's Hungry. 🎉
A good day for Hungary suffering under Orbán.
How is Hungary suffering?@@jlu3ai
@@skampis3554 Its not suffering. People just say it enough times they start to believe it.
Love from Belgium to a follow EU-member Poland !
Polska polityka jest bardziej skomplikowana niż to zostało przedstawione w tym filmie. KO i TD mają podobne poglądy a lewica się trochę różni od nich. Przez to rząd może być niestabilny. Niestety Polskę czekają mroczne 4 lata.
W TD każdy ma inne poglądy
Polityka polega na debacie i kompromisach, nie na rządach jednej osoby. Dobrze że polityka wróciła do Polski.
@@damien1993 nie powiedziałbym że jak jest tusk to będzie lepiej Chyba że chodzi Ci o TD
@@Usmieszekk Chodzi mi o to że bez 3 drogi lub bez Lewicy nie będzie rządu, więc jakoś trzeba będzie się dogadać i to cieszy. Nie ma takiej grupy społecznej której nie byłaby reprezentowana w nowym rządzie.
@@damien1993 tylko ze oni już się nie dogadują i wycofują z obietnic. To było takie oczywiste
That’s so interesting that a president is a member of a political party. For example in Latvia if you get elected as the president you have to leave the political party you are a member of. (If you were in one ofc)
It's the same in Poland, nevertheless, our president is very clearly loyall to his "mother party"...
@@martaszewczak7515 That sounds very unconstitutional, if he does veto all proposals of the parliament they could try and impeach him.
@@Yassified3425 he vetoed right and left. He listens to people.
@@Yassified3425I mean, in Poland it is a very difficult thing, because you only can put the officials like President in front of the State Tribunal. And its only for a very serious charges, like national treason. You can't impeach somebody like in US, when even lying about having sex or not with your intern can lead to an impeachment process (hi Clinton!). Sure, you can "force" it through, but then how it will make the new goverment different from the old, "Orbanist-like" one...?
its the same here
he was forced to leave the party when he got elected
and to be fair he isnt unconditionally loyal to his original party
During the electoral campaign Civic Platform was forced to accept Law and Justice's social programs. There is also no possibility for another "reset" whith russia. So there will be personal changes in government, but no significant change in policy.
This is amusing ...you see the end of your people coming from the west yet you are helping the west to get rid of the east
@@marxmarxi everyone in poland would rather see russia explode even if it meant immigrants in our country
@@some-jk4nx
in other words ..in name of your ego you are ready to end your history
and serve people that want to end it
@@marxmarxi in name of hating war criminals
@@some-jk4nx than you did really chose the wrong side
I wonder how come Tusk's gov is labeled as centric? The fact that Third Way is leaning right wing does not change the fact that Tusk's party i now firmly on the left and they have Lewica as far left addition. The new gov will be far from centric.
PiS lost the Parlament and Government, but not power.
There are many institutions that can't be touched without President's conset or overruling his veto and that won't happen for a long time.
Two years. Assuming that this victory can be replicated in the next election. Until then, the Sejm will have to look at ways to use the PiS reforms for their (the Sejm) intrest.
@@ConnorLonergan 1.5 years :)
@@ConnorLonerganLaw and Justice also has control over the Constitution Tribunal and the Central Bank. Their cronies can easily derail any attempts to "clean up" for the next couple of years, after which the public opinion will get tired of the "dysfunctional" government.
@@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm Sure but this logic assumes that the population would blame the opposition and not the PiG old guard
@@ConnorLonergan People are simple in their majority. They will see the prices increasing, economy slowing and/or new laws getting bogged down in some ephemeric, legislative battles. Unless Civic Platform employes similar propaganda tactics like PIS did, the populace will not care about nuances; they will just see the old slogans "PO=poverty" or "Tusk=inefficiency" coming live. Please take a look what happens currently in Czechia, where Fiala's government try to clean up after Babis' wrecking the budget; people don't understand the macroeconomic picture, they simply see that ANO's government gave them monies, while the new coalition government impose austerity; and the latter's popularity is already dropping
as a pole, thank you for this video because i dont understand anything about out politics XD
When everyone votes, everyone wins. Always vote, even when the choices aren't great. Just Vote!
garbage and childish.
NOT voting is also a vote.
registered to vote and refusing to participate in a scam is a vote of no confidence.
Go vote in China and Korea and .. lol = USA
Stupid. Go vote in Europe and get non elected EU 4th Reich psychopaths in Brussels working for Berlin
Not really. Then many people who have no idea about poltics vote.
Like my mum who says she always votes for a woman.
@@Cubus-zapasowy lol. All women stick together like female sheep. Every politician knows this and like Tusk uses this herd mentality for profit.
I’m not sure about the new government, but I’m also not sure about the old one either. As long as Poland can still keep their military spending where it is
I'm not sure, recession is coming, and even if we spend 5-6% of GDP it won't match France or UK's military. I feel like the plans might be scaled back, but it's hard to say.
I hope Poland wont become another green fanatics that wants immigrants.
@@PKM1010 The problem with the military spending, as PiS wanted, is that it assumed we have to equip and maintain a 300 thousand strong professional army. To achieve this, they created a new land army division. However, at this moment, we simply demographically cannot afford such an army, and at the moment we can barely muster 180k. This new division that I mentioned was created a good couple of years ago, and it still does not have even half the required men, and some of those are there simply due to being transfered from other units. Simply speaking, all this military equipment is nice but we might not have the need for all of this spending.
Military spending will be cut down
They can't and should not. To waste all the money to buy tanks is nonsense. I think their politicians are bribed to buy tanks. They even tell loads of idiots they need their tanks against Germany. 😊
The fact is every politic in PL should go to prison ...
The title is misleading. It should be 'opposition victory'.