At the end of the video it abruptly cuts before I managed to finish explaining how delves work in a group (my OBS crashed and editing would have taken too long). I did testing after the recording ended, and here's the remainder of my explanation on group-wide delves: - For starters, you ARE limited to only 5 rezzes even in a group, the counter does not increase if you bring in multiple players. However, player rezzes do not count against your death tracker, it only penalizes you if you press the Release Spirit button. This means that group wipes in a 5 man party are game over, BUT if you only lose a few players here and there, you should be fine as long as you have someone who can rez. - You can't skip Delve tiers by grouping with someone who has already unlocked Tier 8. You must progress through Tiers 4 -> 8 individually before you can run Tier 8 Delves with other people. - Additionally, my guild leader asked me to test how Bountiful Delves work when someone in the party has already looted their chest, and the other players have not looted their chest. In this situation the players who haven't looted will still be able to access the chest at the end, but the player who already cleared it simply won't see a chest on their screen.
Thanks for letting me know about the worldsoul event item thing that you get from bountiful delves and that it doesn't stack until after you finish the quest. I would've skipped doing it entirely until I had 5 or more of the item (thinking they could stack before you finished the quest)
Perhaps it would be interesting to look into what classes perform better in delves at T8? I mean there must be some that are doing it easier than others, making them really good for having high level gear before raids
warlock is not so ez either takes LONG as time or fail em. you do 1 misstake ur doomed we got 1 interupt with 20+ sec cd.. then fear but gets interupted due to dots. so in the delves where bosses has 3 abilitys where you gotto interupt = undoable. i rly think the developers failed the scaling in delves. ngl (no im not super bad player either) but not pro either. but as im saying it SHOULD not be this hard as a warlock meanwhile tank specs fly true it..
Solo 583 Holy Paladin, reasonably competent. I cleared the Spider web mine without too much stress, up until I got to the boss Runic Shackles and Curse of Agony overlapping were just murder. You can’t kick them all, and curse of agony cannot be healed through without Wings funneling all healing into yourself 1.8m per tick for a 7 second dot. I eventually killed him so I feel good about finally getting him, but died like 10 times before I could get him down I am think a 590+ Ilvl will be needed to make this doable
If your Brann is level 15, the curio's only give a couple gold or resonance crystals so I won't waste my time going out of the way after he's capped at 15. Until they raise the cap obviously
looks easy, I tried some 8 as Havoc DH... I think I suck, I got one shotet by the bosses... and with casters bosses, they cast so often so it's impossible to interrupt, because of CDs, they killed me instant :( the tuning seams very odd for solo run as damage melee, and I had 589 ilev too :)
The unavoidable damage is tuned to be unreasonably high, which is antithetical to the idea of solo content. This has been a repeated point of feedback to Blizzard from myself and others since early Beta, and nothing has been done to fix it. You don't suck, Delves are just an abject failure when it comes to single player content.
Burn hits for 1 m/s for me as a Prot Pally 590 ilvl and I run so slow... I died so many times... Brann is level 16 like yours but does a lot less damage than yours. My curios a level 1/4 so maybe that's my problem. My luck is bad on drops...
What about this. I have my Brann at 15 and I bring 4 people who have Brann at 12. I know if Im the Party Leader, my Brann will get used and get xp. But will the others Brann get xp even though their Brann is not active in the Delve?
doing delves 8 as a warloc is NOT as easy as doing it as any other "tank class" id let you know iv tested it now multiple times playing a class that can tank makes delves 10 times easyer so for me the developers failed the scaling issue in delves. either BUMP up the weakness of in this case warlocs survivability OR scale mobs higher for tanks as it is now. i can chain pull as tank and as warlock 1 delve can take 30-40min to 1h and sometimes fail even. 1 missplay as warlock and im doomed... +
That is incorrect. They have confirmed in multiple blue posts that the seasonal dungeons will be the M0 pool, and you'll also be able to encounter the 4 seasonal dungeons in random heroics. In fact, the non-seasonal dungeons are NOT available in the M0 pool, meaning the highest you can get their loot is 593 Adventurer.
@@harldanarchive I thought they said "starting with season1" - is Season 1 starting this week? I thought season1 is when m+ releases. sorry if thats incorrect
not helpfull... it's supposed to be speed runs... meaning "to skip trash and cut to the case" ... you do regular runs in a fast way. ... good for you, nice showing-of gear. but not helpfull in the least.
@@harldanarchive the video title does not fit the video content. It starts pretty good, but the moment you step into the first delve you already had to start improviseing. It's hardly the fastest way if its a game of chance. and it's hardly helpfull if you tell it's fast even with low gear but than do it in a way only high gear works. or to tell how to behave with certain mobs but than those mobs ain't there so it was for nothing but to keep on talking. ergo, not a helpfull video for the intended target audience. thanks for the effort though and the one or the other good tip hidden somewher in that 120min long behemoth. it probably took a while to cut it. but if you wonder why only 144 upvotes despite 12.900 views in 1 month... that's probably the reason.
As stated at the beginning of the video, he posted a 16.5-minute video on his main channel "Harldan" afterward that "synthesized" the information and used the footage from this 2-hour video.
At the end of the video it abruptly cuts before I managed to finish explaining how delves work in a group (my OBS crashed and editing would have taken too long). I did testing after the recording ended, and here's the remainder of my explanation on group-wide delves:
- For starters, you ARE limited to only 5 rezzes even in a group, the counter does not increase if you bring in multiple players. However, player rezzes do not count against your death tracker, it only penalizes you if you press the Release Spirit button. This means that group wipes in a 5 man party are game over, BUT if you only lose a few players here and there, you should be fine as long as you have someone who can rez.
- You can't skip Delve tiers by grouping with someone who has already unlocked Tier 8. You must progress through Tiers 4 -> 8 individually before you can run Tier 8 Delves with other people.
- Additionally, my guild leader asked me to test how Bountiful Delves work when someone in the party has already looted their chest, and the other players have not looted their chest. In this situation the players who haven't looted will still be able to access the chest at the end, but the player who already cleared it simply won't see a chest on their screen.
Stop making such good content.... I want to buy retail and play it because of these kind of videoes! Hard to juggle that as a casual gamer dad :D
Tak-Rethan Pheromon on first day! It was a bit tedious on ilvl 557 tho but truly managable, thank you for the tip!
Thanks for letting me know about the worldsoul event item thing that you get from bountiful delves and that it doesn't stack until after you finish the quest. I would've skipped doing it entirely until I had 5 or more of the item (thinking they could stack before you finished the quest)
Perhaps it would be interesting to look into what classes perform better in delves at T8? I mean there must be some that are doing it easier than others, making them really good for having high level gear before raids
Mostly tank specs, they perform significantly better than the rest.
Not ele shaman lol it's a bit rough
@@snaapshot4777ele is easy.
warlock is not so ez either takes LONG as time or fail em. you do 1 misstake ur doomed we got 1 interupt with 20+ sec cd.. then fear but gets interupted due to dots. so in the delves where bosses has 3 abilitys where you gotto interupt = undoable. i rly think the developers failed the scaling in delves. ngl (no im not super bad player either) but not pro either. but as im saying it SHOULD not be this hard as a warlock meanwhile tank specs fly true it..
Solo 583 Holy Paladin, reasonably competent. I cleared the Spider web mine without too much stress, up until I got to the boss
Runic Shackles and Curse of Agony overlapping were just murder. You can’t kick them all, and curse of agony cannot be healed through without Wings funneling all healing into yourself
1.8m per tick for a 7 second dot. I eventually killed him so I feel good about finally getting him, but died like 10 times before I could get him down
I am think a 590+ Ilvl will be needed to make this doable
Someone told me as a rogue, going fatebound and using the hour long tricks talent on brann basically makes him into the tank and he never dies.
wow, going to try this. If it works that's huge.
You mean trickster*
I definitely need to try this. Getting mangled on tier 8. Am a bit undergeared but still.
If your Brann is level 15, the curio's only give a couple gold or resonance crystals so I won't waste my time going out of the way after he's capped at 15. Until they raise the cap obviously
It's already raised
I solo'd the bountiful delve in Hallowfall today as a 592 Ret Pal. Every pull was stressful. Do not recommend.
Can u kinda cheese it with tank spec? Kite and let brann handle the dps heavy lifting? I was gonna attempt it with my warrior
try arms then permanently running away and hide to get hp back from second win
@@thisismychannel607 I tried Prot on the last boss and it felt a lot worse than Ret. I switched back after 1 attempt. I had Brann as a healer.
first day 2 helmets gg
looks easy, I tried some 8 as Havoc DH... I think I suck, I got one shotet by the bosses... and with casters bosses, they cast so often so it's impossible to interrupt, because of CDs, they killed me instant :( the tuning seams very odd for solo run as damage melee, and I had 589 ilev too :)
The unavoidable damage is tuned to be unreasonably high, which is antithetical to the idea of solo content. This has been a repeated point of feedback to Blizzard from myself and others since early Beta, and nothing has been done to fix it. You don't suck, Delves are just an abject failure when it comes to single player content.
@@harldanarchive lmao damn that's a refreshingly succinct albeit depressing statement to read. Hopefully they address this before too long.
So I hit 580 on my guardian druid...and im struggling bad! Were there any changes? Maybe im just bad, and thats ok lol...
Burn hits for 1 m/s for me as a Prot Pally 590 ilvl and I run so slow...
I died so many times...
Brann is level 16 like yours but does a lot less damage than yours. My curios a level 1/4 so maybe that's my problem. My luck is bad on drops...
What about this. I have my Brann at 15 and I bring 4 people who have Brann at 12. I know if Im the Party Leader, my Brann will get used and get xp. But will the others Brann get xp even though their Brann is not active in the Delve?
They should all receive the same XP for their Brann, yes.
doing delves 8 as a warloc is NOT as easy as doing it as any other "tank class" id let you know iv tested it now multiple times playing a class that can tank makes delves 10 times easyer so for me the developers failed the scaling issue in delves. either BUMP up the weakness of in this case warlocs survivability OR scale mobs higher for tanks as it is now. i can chain pull as tank and as warlock 1 delve can take 30-40min to 1h and sometimes fail even. 1 missplay as warlock and im doomed...
+
Can you run t4-8 on a geared level 70 alt?
No
no u can only do t3 on non-80s
But bountiful delves give brann exp reg delves don't.
Heard u say "target m0" and then necrotic wake. I think m0 will be all TWW dungeons and when m+ releases S1 dungeon rotation takes over
That is incorrect. They have confirmed in multiple blue posts that the seasonal dungeons will be the M0 pool, and you'll also be able to encounter the 4 seasonal dungeons in random heroics.
In fact, the non-seasonal dungeons are NOT available in the M0 pool, meaning the highest you can get their loot is 593 Adventurer.
@@harldanarchive I thought they said "starting with season1" - is Season 1 starting this week? I thought season1 is when m+ releases. sorry if thats incorrect
Season 1 starts this week with m0 and normal/heroic raids.
easy:: dont play warrior
not helpfull... it's supposed to be speed runs... meaning "to skip trash and cut to the case" ... you do regular runs in a fast way. ... good for you, nice showing-of gear. but not helpfull in the least.
what
@@harldanarchive the video title does not fit the video content.
It starts pretty good, but the moment you step into the first delve you already had to start improviseing. It's hardly the fastest way if its a game of chance. and it's hardly helpfull if you tell it's fast even with low gear but than do it in a way only high gear works. or to tell how to behave with certain mobs but than those mobs ain't there so it was for nothing but to keep on talking.
ergo, not a helpfull video for the intended target audience.
thanks for the effort though and the one or the other good tip hidden somewher in that 120min long behemoth. it probably took a while to cut it. but if you wonder why only 144 upvotes despite 12.900 views in 1 month... that's probably the reason.
Can you sintetice a little bit ? 😅 2 h bra
As stated at the beginning of the video, he posted a 16.5-minute video on his main channel "Harldan" afterward that "synthesized" the information and used the footage from this 2-hour video.
beta WTF