Ep 47: Dissecting The Incident of Gharaniq (The Satanic Verses) | Struggles in Mecca |
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- Things you'll learn in this episode of Our Prophet:
00:00 - Why some Muslim migrants came back from Abyssinia?
02:36 - The insulting and fabricated story of Gharaniq (Satanic Verses)
09:02 - Exploring Quranic verses related to the story of Satanic Verses
28:52 - Strange hadiths on Umar ibn Khattab and his influence over Shaytan
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Thank you sayed may Allah bless you, if not because of the Ahl al-Bayt then i would be misguided.
Amin yaa Allah 🤲❤️❤️❤️
Nonsense
Keep sharing so other too can know about Ahlulbayt 🌹
Born in a sunni non religious family, wasted my teen years as agnostic-atheist, after age of 24 become muslim through ahlul bayt alayhi salam al hamdulilah.
@@clementhaa
Why are you a shii?
Sunnis have great mentality, subhanallah. The Prophet of God, the chosen one satan is able to put words in his mouth. Whilst Umar, a convert satan runs away from him. Subhanallah, what mentality.
It'd be great if u put subtitles on students question because its really hard to hear them. Thanks for the uploads salaam.
The questions are most of the time inaudible. We will try to add subtitles where possible. Do keep sharing 🙂
Masha Allah brother, you explained with knowledge
Very helpful in realising the hardships of Muhammad (saww)
I have learned a lot from this lecture series
Mashallah sayyedna such a enlightening series👏🏼👏🏼
This EXCELLENT! People like Mr Blaa blabla (CP) got to learn this.
CP is this man’s daddy 🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷
Very interesting. Have been going through quite a few other scholarly studies of the incident to gain more perspective and understanding. They all carry logical clarification and reasoning. For sunnis the most widely accepted is in Bukhari where the incident speaks of a communcal prostration at end of surah Najm along with the polytheists, of the 'inserted' verses themselves is not mentioned. At-Tabari who compiles all weak and strong isnad for purposes of scholarly study* (disclaimer) has the incident recorded as two other versions.
1. Shaytan interjects by shouting his additional verses concerning the 3 pagan deities and refers to them as some celestial gharaniq (we can also agree that in ancient times powerful jinn could influence the course of civilization when they engage in shirk, so this may be such a case) and shaytaan attempts to seduce the pagans into thinking that it would still be acceptable to hold on to these deities. We should not forget that the Surah Najm mentions the star of Sirius which was a HUGELY significant celestial body in ancient world and deified by many civilizations before. Thus the pagans would take the mention of this star, and the mention of the 3 gods of theirs as an acknowledgement of their mystic capacity / super natural existence.
2. Shaytaan interjecting by way of mimicking Jibreel a.s and the Prophet s.a.w mistaking this whisper as being the words of Jibril and actually uttering them. Now, the explanations both hold water - however the case of infallibility is somewhat vague in the sense, messengers do not intent to transgress or sin but they can faulter because this is a human attribute. Each time one does so, they immediately become aware of this, repent and not repeat. There are some examples of this beginning with Adam a.s and continuously Mussa, Yunus.. etc so this perspective does hold water especially in the notion that, The Prophet immediately admitting and accepting this error reflects his ever honest character and Allah's s.w promise to preserve the purity of the recorded laws /quran and referring to surah Hajj v 52 and 53.
Q. If we are to take the prophets as role models and hold on to the belief that they are completely infallible then this would be an impossible undertaking and so a meaningless statement to make?
Q. If we accept version 2, where the prophet did not utter the verses but shaytaan did and the pagans did hear it (in context of surah hajj 52/53 meaning that he caused them to understand the mentioning of the 3 pagan deities to be an acknowledgement of their existence) then there again is no harm done if you accept this version too - rather than accepting that the whole incident is a fabrication?
Q. Does not the fact that previous messages have been tampered and manipulated so much to deviate the people whom clear guidance was brought to, attest to the possibility that Shaytaan does indeed interject at times by manipulating the interpretation or causing ones understanding of the law to be other than, what it was initially intended to be - albeit not interjecting by making a prophet utter wrong words. This notion would give the second version more weight and lesser weight to the last version.
May Allah s.w continue to bless your work and of other scholars striving to provide clarity and guidance in the midst of misinformation and deviation. Ameen.
JazakAllah. The possibility of Shaytaan hindering the works of humans is a thing proven by the Quran. But when it comes to the greatest Prophet and Messenger of Allah, this possibility is not just against his stature but also puts a question mark on the entire divine mission.
Masha Allah!
Well explained 👏👏👏
May Allah bless you and your entire family
Insha Allah 😊❤️❤️❤️
Keep sharing 🌹
Jazakallah Agha very informative lecture 🤲🕋
Keep sharing 🌹
Start a series on Tawheed & Aqaid❤️💫✌️
We have already a series with us. Pray that we are able to execute it InshaAllah soon.
@@Thaqlain Inshallah your channel is amazing
Thanks!
God bless u the whole team
My only regret is I found ahl bayt lately in my mid thirties
Hurr found Imam Hussain on the last day of his life 🙂
Lol, i didnt know there was ghulat of umar😂
Man, thats some crazy stuff at the end there!
Very interesting. But I have one question. Can sheik explain, in dept, what infallibility means. this is a something I don't understand with the Shais. does anyone have a link where I can learn about this properly.
Here you go: www.al-islam.org/infallibility-prophets-and-messengers-sayyid-murtadha-al-askari
it was useful
Sayyid I have a question please. Is infallibility earned not gifted as a favour from God?
We will suggest to ask this question on Ask Those Who Know app.
Assalaam o alaik ya rasool Allah s.a.ww.s
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At the start of the video. What was that name about ? :/
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So why were these verses uttered???.please explain
These verses were not uttered. Hence it is a fabricated story.
@@Thaqlain ok jazakAllah
Tell your people the truth brother. How can shaytan fool Allah's prophet.? We are critical thinkers and we do research, the days of just listening and believing nonsense without finding out for ourselves is over.
How can a jewish captive lady put at test on prophet Muhammad by poisoning him and being successfull?
In other words what this sunnis are saying Muhammad SAW said words of Shirk chilled until he was later told woooah this is Shirk , Alhamdulilah am a follower of Ahlul Bayt.. Allahuma Swali Ala Muhammad Wa Ali Muhammad
Sura naas, shaitan could be among Humans, jinn, gene.
This is really scary, how do you know when shaytan really stopped putting words in Muhammad???
He never was able to put words in Prophet's mouth.
I do not understand that Quraan being the book of guidance how is it a test itself? If the Duniya is a test and Quran being the guidance? Please guide
Also from this lecture it came to mind that to reach the real meaning we need an extra effort and ahlul bait guidance than what about this time where there are so many tafaseer and our imam is not here to guide us.
Also Quraan it self mentions that it is “kitaben mubeen” “hudan lil muttaqeen” this confusion is beyond my understanding.
Another thing if we say that Ahadees from prophet and progeny are light for us than there are soooo many fabrications how can we get through all this?
Your course book aims to help you ace the exam, but if you choose the wrong teachers to teach you that book or don't understand its concepts holistically, you will fail miserably. We have covered two guides that will, to an extent, answer your concerns:
thaqlain.org/guide/do-we-need-the-prophet-when-we-have-the-quran/
thaqlain.org/guide/why-is-imam-mahdi-not-appearing/
@@Thaqlain thank you and JazakAllah for caring to answer my concerns. Please keep in prayers.
We will InshaAllah try and find a lecture that goes into your question with more detail and convert it into a Guide :)
@@Thaqlain thanks a-lot… i will eagerly wait for it…
Then why quraish make truce with Muhammad?
There was no truce. It was a propaganda.
if there was a truce, u wouldn’t see this incident as a problem?
You mean the peace treaty?
Hhhhh you clarified all thanks , damage control .
What Sunni books...what reliable Sunni ulema says that the pagans went into sajda because of the Satanic verses ..please show us where...please show us where it's a view of the mainstream Sunnis that the believe that shaytaan could put words in the prophets (saw) mouth
Klopt
Hij liegt
Wat hij zegt
Ibn Taymiyyiah has quoted it. Tabari has quoted this incident in detail.
Islam is the perfect example of how a lie can be repeated many times over and over and some people will eventually believe it .
Thanks for dropping by Bob.
Such is true in the redemption of soul by false belief in the sacrifice of christ.
In the same chapter discussed here is a reminder for all: Now explain away how Abrahamic faiths, repeatedly remind man to be accountable for their actions and deeds but suddenly, a disciple of sorts.. decades later, named Paul codifies a totally different notion and repeats it so much that they believe it to be true, because it is so convenient for transgressors to 'pay' for salvation.
53:36-41 "Or has he not been informed of what is in the Scripture of Moses,
and ˹that of˺ Abraham, who ˹perfectly˺ fulfilled ˹his covenant˺?
˹They state˺ that no soul burdened with sin will bear the burden of another,
and that each person will only have what they endeavoured towards,
and that ˹the outcome of˺ their endeavours will be seen ˹in their record˺,
then they will be fully rewarded,
@@judheimkassamali8767 Wow , you are really confused . Read your Bible and ask Jesus for guidance .
Are you convinced yourself with this ridiculous explanation 😂😂😂?
Please share how is this ridiculous?
@@Thaqlain The context of these verses were written by classic scholars hundreds of years ago. Satanic verses prove that the Quran is just another book for idiots who believe anything without thinking critically. Anyway Shias are not even considered as Muslims by Sunnis. To the sunnis of my country, Shias are nothing but Kafirs!
Leaving the progeny of the Prophet is the reason our Sunni brethren accepts stories like Satanic verses. May Allah guide us all.
@@Thaqlainbut the reference of those verses in the surah makes no sense at all- there is no reason or continuity. those idols n them having male offspring what was the reason for God to just randomly say that out of context n them comtinue with something else. it actually feels like a deleted story when u read the surah.
According to the law of Mosses , Muhammad would be stoned to death for doing false prophecies.
Deuteronomy 13:1-5
“If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, 2 and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ 3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the LORD your God is testing you, to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 You shall walk after the LORD your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. 5 But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the LORD your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst.
Deuteronomy 18:20-22
But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ 21 And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken?’- 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.
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