I like the heavy weapons mastery since you are lighter so basically and “technically” with demolitions expert you are 90% less heavier instead or 200% it’s 110% now
The shotgun is the most damage dealing weapon in the game, with all damage perks it has a possibility to 1 shot a juggernaut or shredder on elite/legend so it's really good with a choke and stock, the sawblade and thumper are more of ''kill farming weapons'' but they are effective against enemies with high health pools such as the gunships, onyx and juggernaut units
I use F57 and MM20, because mm20 has very low recoil making it useful in a pinch, and the F57 is just all around great, however, people always ask why I use mm20, but really it’s burst turns into the fastest fire rate in the game, and it has pretty good damage, t he only downfall is it’s low ammo pull
Another tip: Dont use a medkit if your health is not below half, youre just gonna waste it for a smaller portion of max health that the medkit can heal There are exceptions to this rule, such as a large group coming towards you and youre above half health, but still youre not at high health
For weapon masteries, get what you're comfortable with, then training perks. Dual Ravens can kill in one with Max training on Legend. It would basically be the CH-A but with high penetration swapped out for faster fire rate. But yeah, CH-A is pretty op lol
Dual ravens also take up both primary and secondary slots, so you’re also swapping the F57 for less ammo, less penetration, less fire rate, and more recoil.
@NoodleSoup then there wont be the ammo capacity advantage/rate of fire advantage since the ammo is pretty much the same, the rate of fire also the same, but ch-a more damage and penetration. come on raven is trash at most scenarios(not all but most)
Once we were doing Lakehouse Legend loud and I had aegis armor, cursed aegis mask and a sawblade and my teammate started shooting at me (he didn't kill me though) and then was like "oh" and he thought I was a shredder lmao
@@epRivera not if operative in your room does it first or somebody uses screwdriver on window and has bad eyes and shoots you instead of guard. Right rivera?
I have a few loadouts... My stock one is dual K45 or whatever it's called, silent drill, keycard scrambler, two medkits, and two grenades. My stealth run loadout when i'm not on rookie is a single UP9, a silent drill, and occasionally a keycard scrambler. My LOUD one is a sawblade, K45 because it's my strongest secondary, frontline armour, and then I think a drill. The rest is pure medkits Edit: Was just reminded I said this, for some reason I thought the K45 was the other pistol you could get and my braincells overlooked that F57 is the AR.
Number 10 is really important once your doing no armor elite/legend loud missions. You always need to find cover in order to make yourself not die easier, make sure you always have ammo to shoot the units approaching, and always have the right loadout/characters. This helps so much during these runs, while in elite/legend with armor, this would help as well.
@@dungeondemonrbyt4354 I see it alot, In the main menu i see alot of people saying "Doing *insert mission here* Legend Loud No Armor Need Juggs anyone wanna join"
1:36. IKR. Every time I play Ironman with my friends. They go straight for kills, and the mission ends us taking a every long time. And they’re the ones who die early, not me.
6 characters with 75 level (or even 12 characters with 100 level if you have legends pass), Ironman legend (but I think you've done it), experiment with skill tree for stealth and loud and learning the map for ultimate health
I'm not gonna lie but I use to think prox mines were more useful than med. So I kept dying on black dusk because I was more busy with placing mines than getting cover.
Another thing, if you have medkits don't use them until you are at about half health, this will make sure no extra healing is wasted, battlefield medicine perks might mess this up but the general rule of thumb is about half and lower health
You can wallbang Ryan by standing in front of the keycard scrambler area and aiming a little to the left. You can do it with every weapon except pistols as long as you have enough damage perks. You may even be able to do it with pistols considering their perks are similar to the SMGs they take ammo from. So no, thumper is not useful on Financier.
I got really bored of the F57-CHA loadout, so I decided to try something new. Turns out, a lot of the other guns have their uses as well Sawblade will make enemies prioritize you, which is helpful in legend ironman mixed as you can have a very tanky loud build while the stealth player is hiding behind you and won't get shot much. I use sawblade and s97, which has been a very successful build, with the only weakness being snipers.
I know the CH-A is good, but once out of ammo, it’s out. I usually like S97 and F57 because of the ammo dropped by Swat/Steelcove/Canadian Swat/Halcyon units. 480 MCS is a damaging alternative as it’s just powerful on its own as well as ammo pickups.
11: Using a medkit when it's not necessary You have like 3 milimeters of health down and you use a medkit, that's not necessary unless your health is at least at half.
its ironic how unofficial references being cheap to fighting 3 aegis units with a k45 and how he dies by the onyx unit while trying to say that u need to kill normal units first
2:07 thumper in financier is useful cuz when ryan closes the door and u didint get in then how are you supposed to kill him ? either blow up the door, use blowtorch, keycard scrambler or a drill but the best is a c4 or a thumper so ye
Killing Ryan is really easy an even if he gets in the panic room there is a glitch where u can shoot him through the wall so it is better to not use the thumper
I hate when i join public lobbies (worst thing ever) AND they will ASK you loud or stealth BUT they will ALWAYS DO THE WRONG THING WHEN I SAID LOUD THE WILL GO STEALTH WHEN I SAID STEALTH THEY GO LOUD. But i don't only find lobbies like this that much, but it's annoying
2:50 man i am a tank character in my loud character only thing i need is to have my medic friend defend my back and give me some medkits while i take care of onyx unit
1:08 i don't do this. why? because i don't have the courage and don't bother to respec my character (for stealth perks) because I've already done it like twice
Iam late but just saying, the thumper IS usefull in the financer as you can use it in case ryan arrive at the panic room, you can algo bring two c4 but for me its better bring six medic kits than only four
Highest mag scope 9n f57 is good as long as you have the canted sights attachment. Quick switch for close combat and scope for long range sniping (blacksite exit with rose, financer, lakehouse last, kill house drill)
In Financier legend loud, I'll usually bring the sniper and thumper for weapons. In my inventory, I will have 5 med kits and 1 C4. The C4 is so I use less ammo when opening the panic room. I like to save my ammo so that I can insta-kill aegis and large groups of SWAT that are near eachother. I also have many characters for specific playstyles in loud, and I use my Falcon replica for most loud missions as he is a T A N K.
I tried to play financeer stealth (ez) and someone joined I saw theyre weapon, it wasnt even consealed and it was two weapons at the back of the list, he tought they were the best weapons cuz they are expensive
Thats what noobs(newbies) always do every time i see a new player MCS EVERY TIME THAT ***** MCS EVERY Person whos NEW HAS IT i dont get it i mean it is good but u could Think about the concealmend and suppresor
considering what u told, it mightve been the sawblade which isnt bad with the heavy mastery perk and ur weapons dont have to be concealed in financier, u can have visible weapons in financier with disguise, and they probably brought those guns incase things go south
@@threek4018 also even on rookie you need armor. I made this mistake. My skill tree had loud and stealth perks along with useless perks. Basically made it impossible to complete loud or stealth legend
As a level 83 Infiltrator who's played since beta I am morally obligated to disagree with #3. Things go wrong and a lot of stealth skills are actually a game changer, a speced out thief(and it's hybrid classes) can pop locks(something you encounter a lot) faster than any other tool and hacking gives useful intel(cams and mission intel) along with being able to bypass card readers(even faster than keycards when speced). Also almost everything short of the Sawblade can be hidden with the concealed holsters so if things go south...thump, thump, thump.
"Meta" means "Most Effective Tactic Available" This means that unless the mm20 is the undisputed best or second best weapon, it cannot be Meta. Just because something is good does not mean it is Meta. even if it is just slightly worse it can't be considered Meta. When Unofficial talks about the "best" he is talking about the Meta. 1. Not everyone has access to it so it can't be considered "meta". 2. Ammo problems prevents it from being meta even if it were available to everyone. 3. No dexterity or steady aim unless you choose SMG mastery, which is a poor choice.
@@deadperson6227 It's true, but: 1) I am not pretty sure that he meant to say "Meta" under "the best loud guns" 2) Most loud runs are performed in trio and quad, which means you wont care much about ammo if you are playing in squad. (I know, there are still a lot of players that are playing in duo and solo, but still, this is a video for the beginners) 3) What do you mean? You still need these two perks, even if you are taking rifle mastery perk. It's true that SMG mastery gives you advantage only in stealth, but its location is still nearby mercenary default perk.
@@ignat2k451 Do you not understand the concept of "the best loud guns" best implies meta. Just because other people in the squad have ammo doesn't mean ammo is not a problem. In fact it may be even more of a problem. If someone has no ammo they need to be protected essentially making another player useless. And that still doesn't take care of the fact that the mm20 is not available to anyone making it far less than ideal as a "best" weapon.
I actually have my F57 with a delta sight, and my ch-a with the max scope because I like to have a short/medium and a separate long range weapon. Also, does it feel like you do more damage with your sniper when you’re scoped in? Or is only me?
uhuh, u need to get ur brain checked maybe, max scope? there are no long range fighting in this game, u can get by using the medium scope or even red dot
Are dual ravens good tho? I know there’s an ammo issue, but what if we just took that away? I know an infinite ammo glitch you can do with dual pistols.
@@dungeondemonrbyt4354 Yeah I get what you’re saying. I was kind of a beginner when I posted that comment. Besides, that glitch got patched anyways. I only asked because he never mentioned the bug.
This does along with the bad skill trees thing. Vitality and Shock Plating are NOT the most important perks. In fact you really only need 12 Vitality and 9 Shock Plating if you use cover well. If you don't know how to use cover, well learn to. Quick Swap, conditioning, Battlefield Medicine and equipment specialist are very overlooked perks that are honestly more useful than damage and ammo. You will almost never need more than 300 (10 Deep Pockets and Vest) and you can usually get by on even less (as low as 6 deep pockets and Vest). As for damage, yeah having more can help with bosses, but you're usually going to have at least one other person with you, so running out of ammo/dying to the boss won't really be a problem. To 2-shot all enemies besides Aegis with the F57 at all ranges you only need 14 Vital Targets with a suppressor or 16 without a suppressor, so wouldn't recommend getting more than 16. Reload speed is useful so you can continue shooting much sooner after you start reloading. Since there is no reload cancel in Entry Point, once you start reloading you basically can't do anything until you're done. Spending 2 seconds on this can and will get you killed. Equipment Specialist allows you to heal faster which will save you're life if you're getting rushed. Battlefield Medicine is the only perk I would say you should get all of. It basically extends you're life because more health. Conditioning is a bit controversial, but you should have at least 6. Needing to stop in the middle of the map and walk while 6 different squads are shooting at you isn't really my idea of a good time.
I started saving money every since I beat a daily challenge and lost money from Aegis + Sawblade. I switched to frontline armour and then gained some profits (Also, i'm too lazy to grind up a second guy so I just use a specialist with stealth perks, and have a sawblade if we choose loud) Edit: Ok, I actually started to make more characters, my headcanon reason is that they are all unique mercenaries hired to do the missions, I give each a "personality." Don't ask why
@@dungeondemonrbyt4354 cuz range. for some ungodly reason the sawblade has half the range of the f57 despite using the same bullet. if this wasn't the case sawblade would be completely fine to use
I use my old comando guy into loud as i like bazooka and his double thumper more now And also i found out that not blacksite and black dusk missons the swat comes in groups so at the with draw if you can kill all of them on your way to drop the bags on the withdraw you will have no enemys for a whileand it makes running and shooting very useful
"Always have a different stealth and Loud loudout"
Me a commando: N O
Breacher is as well, I got Phoenix Rising on one
Just have all hybrid classes, there are enough slots for it.
Heyyyyyy hybrid classes that aren't jug or infiltraters also I run specialist
That’s me when i started playing
@@beeboithinknice. its hard to find specialists
I know the f57 and ch-a are the meta but I think it's really fun trying to find ways to use other guns
Loud customized shotguns are really good.
I like the heavy weapons mastery since you are lighter so basically and “technically” with demolitions expert you are 90% less heavier instead or 200% it’s 110% now
The shotgun is the most damage dealing weapon in the game, with all damage perks it has a possibility to 1 shot a juggernaut or shredder on elite/legend so it's really good with a choke and stock, the sawblade and thumper are more of ''kill farming weapons'' but they are effective against enemies with high health pools such as the gunships, onyx and juggernaut units
@Pream Meephet illegal? You need to be sent to the boiler room of hell
I use F57 and MM20, because mm20 has very low recoil making it useful in a pinch, and the F57 is just all around great, however, people always ask why I use mm20, but really it’s burst turns into the fastest fire rate in the game, and it has pretty good damage, t he only downfall is it’s low ammo pull
Also DO NOT forget that some cover can and will be shot through by enemies, always heal behind something concrete or metal.
Another tip: Dont use a medkit if your health is not below half, youre just gonna waste it for a smaller portion of max health that the medkit can heal
There are exceptions to this rule, such as a large group coming towards you and youre above half health, but still youre not at high health
i have max battlefield medicine and i only use medkits once im about to die so i dont waste any
@@dungeondemonrbyt4354 i dont even have max battlefeild medicine and i do something similar, wait till i get low but not so low i die in a few seconds
If i'm about to run through a large open space (like to elevator in the score) I make sure I'm at full
2:30 After the anniversary event, this statement's efficiency dropped down by at least 70%.
For weapon masteries, get what you're comfortable with, then training perks.
Dual Ravens can kill in one with Max training on Legend. It would basically be the CH-A but with high penetration swapped out for faster fire rate.
But yeah, CH-A is pretty op lol
Dual ravens also take up both primary and secondary slots, so you’re also swapping the F57 for less ammo, less penetration, less fire rate, and more recoil.
@NoodleSoup then there wont be the ammo capacity advantage/rate of fire advantage since the ammo is pretty much the same, the rate of fire also the same, but ch-a more damage and penetration. come on raven is trash at most scenarios(not all but most)
@@dungeondemonrbyt4354 you never wanna bring pistols to loud lol
@@balcuv unless you use dual pistols, then its alr
go akimbo like john wick
Once we were doing Lakehouse Legend loud and I had aegis armor, cursed aegis mask and a sawblade and my teammate started shooting at me (he didn't kill me though) and then was like "oh" and he thought I was a shredder lmao
I shoot them back when it happens to me lol
@@epRivera not if operative in your room does it first or somebody uses screwdriver on window and has bad eyes and shoots you instead of guard. Right rivera?
@@visorblx I have a special trick to survive when that happens :>
@@epRivera what is it...?
@@visorblx it's a secret :>
i made 3 loadouts: stealth, loud and "public stealth" (it means both loud and stealth)
Ah yes happens everytime
Yes. Always happens.
What is that loadout dude i need to know
@@alrah5978 concealed S97 and 480 MCS, frontline armor, silent drill, 3 medkits and 2 grenades
I have a few loadouts...
My stock one is dual K45 or whatever it's called, silent drill, keycard scrambler, two medkits, and two grenades.
My stealth run loadout when i'm not on rookie is a single UP9, a silent drill, and occasionally a keycard scrambler.
My LOUD one is a sawblade, K45 because it's my strongest secondary, frontline armour, and then I think a drill. The rest is pure medkits
Edit: Was just reminded I said this, for some reason I thought the K45 was the other pistol you could get and my braincells overlooked that F57 is the AR.
Number 10 is really important once your doing no armor elite/legend loud missions. You always need to find cover in order to make yourself not die easier, make sure you always have ammo to shoot the units approaching, and always have the right loadout/characters. This helps so much during these runs, while in elite/legend with armor, this would help as well.
who goes to legend with no armor (just asking) unless you are doing stealth and taking cover in a hostile zone so guards dont see you
@@dungeondemonrbyt4354 I see it alot, In the main menu i see alot of people saying "Doing *insert mission here* Legend Loud No Armor Need Juggs anyone wanna join"
1:36. IKR. Every time I play Ironman with my friends. They go straight for kills, and the mission ends us taking a every long time. And they’re the ones who die early, not me.
Well u could use them to kill the enemy while u fill the objectives
"Living Mustache Rose isn't real, she can't hurt you."
Living Mustache Rose:
Hey unofficial can you make a guide about what to do on ep when you're bored.
6 characters with 75 level (or even 12 characters with 100 level if you have legends pass), Ironman legend (but I think you've done it), experiment with skill tree for stealth and loud and learning the map for ultimate health
@@dreamingsus9996 thx
Yeah
@@dreamingsus9996 Oh thanks mate
Just do random stuff like homocide or massacre
Be honest, we have all done those mistakes at some point.
I'm not gonna lie but I use to think prox mines were more useful than med. So I kept dying on black dusk because I was more busy with placing mines than getting cover.
The crew after they fail stealth: lets just reset
That one guy with a loud loadout: hold my aegis mask
useless fact:bringing a sawblade and putting it in your bag will make you a distraction for enemies allowing your nearby allies be shot at less often
As a stealth player, I find this tutorial extremely useful cause boy I did all those mistakes alot of times
Another thing, if you have medkits don't use them until you are at about half health, this will make sure no extra healing is wasted, battlefield medicine perks might mess this up but the general rule of thumb is about half and lower health
2:10 thumper is actually good in black site for taking down waves in the cell block
late to the party but adding up to that; its also useful in fi nancier to take down the panic room door, if u dont wanna waste ti me ofc
@@syntaxerr0r220 yes
Or breaking helicopters (if u can aim)
1:36 why does rose look like she is 60 years old
Fun fact: If a player dies with a mission objective item you will be able to search their body and you can also steal their stuff too i think
2:09 The thumper can be good on fianancer loud if you don't have c4 or a card scrambler and want to blow the panic room door open.
You can wallbang Ryan by standing in front of the keycard scrambler area and aiming a little to the left. You can do it with every weapon except pistols as long as you have enough damage perks. You may even be able to do it with pistols considering their perks are similar to the SMGs they take ammo from. So no, thumper is not useful on Financier.
I am the scrambler user normally
@@deadperson6227 it can be done with pistols too lol
You should’ve included a clip of me blowing up myself when we were doing nightmare assault xd
I made this mistake in rookie.....yea
@@iamthepersonwhoasked5639 how did u get nightmare assault on rookie???
I got really bored of the F57-CHA loadout, so I decided to try something new. Turns out, a lot of the other guns have their uses as well
Sawblade will make enemies prioritize you, which is helpful in legend ironman mixed as you can have a very tanky loud build while the stealth player is hiding behind you and won't get shot much. I use sawblade and s97, which has been a very successful build, with the only weakness being snipers.
Especially helpful when your teammates are at very low health so you can tank the shot instead of them
Me with 2 sawblades:
yeah i also got bored and the jugg and infil so i made a commando, and currently making a breacher and technician, all with diff guns
2:00 ch-a with tg3x sucks i prefer red dot with ch-a
i prefer tg3x cuz some mission have snipers
Bruh cha is a sniper unless you got good accuracy tg3x is always better
I know the CH-A is good, but once out of ammo, it’s out. I usually like S97 and F57 because of the ammo dropped by Swat/Steelcove/Canadian Swat/Halcyon units. 480 MCS is a damaging alternative as it’s just powerful on its own as well as ammo pickups.
Me personally I like S97 since it's used more often and costs less, but has about the same level of damage
I like the 480 mcs cuz its sounds cool
@@tf_is_this_shit by that logic I bet your favorite is probably the sawblade because it sounds absolutely badass and isn't just letter+number vomit
@@Riciliz nah slow movement speed suks balls
11: Using a medkit when it's not necessary
You have like 3 milimeters of health down and you use a medkit, that's not necessary unless your health is at least at half.
That's obvious enough for anyone to understand though
i only use meds when im near 25% or 30% hp
@@seamusfeng3610 not really,
Tip for loud: if you aren’t playing with music at max volume especially in the black dusk, you aren’t really playing loud
#11 juggernauts should stay in the crate while the infiltrator finishes the level in ironman legend mixed
That's a stealth mistake not a loud one.
@@deadperson6227mixed mistake not stealth one
2:10 Damn it! I wanted to bring thumper to the freelancer...
Unof: "One of the most annoying things is people who try to save money"
Also Unof: *Takes Stock UP9*
2:28 halcyon made him say that just incase operatives start shooting teamates for no reason
*do u even EP*
2:31 now we have the steel cove mask, we can dress up exactly like steel cove
2:30
That's a foul line dude😂
its ironic how unofficial references being cheap to fighting 3 aegis units with a k45 and how he dies by the onyx unit while trying to say that u need to kill normal units first
Tip: get the infiltrator (its the best for loud)
*what*
Hell ya, infiltrator useful for loud
@@Ciaobyebye forget juggernaut
@@thevioletwild what the hell is a juggernaut
@@user-jw8sd2xu6i Mercenary and Engineer (if this is a joke then hahahaha)
2:07 thumper in financier is useful cuz when ryan closes the door and u didint get in then how are you supposed to kill him ? either blow up the door, use blowtorch, keycard scrambler or a drill but the best is a c4 or a thumper so ye
Killing Ryan is really easy an even if he gets in the panic room there is a glitch where u can shoot him through the wall so it is better to not use the thumper
@@Dbid6 If you get good aim then yea but mostly it dosent work so better use an breaching tool
Me who has a characters skill tree is loud and stealth: *Ahem*
That's not a very good idea, unless you have multiple characters and that's a 'public stealth' character
@@ratthew123 if you have a Breacher, Tech or Commando then a mixed skill tree is pretty good
2:29 with the new steel cove shades I can see that happening
Yesz
wait one question why the stubby grip and not the ergo grip when ergo grip gives less spread
2:03 thx for the attachments
I hate when i join public lobbies (worst thing ever) AND they will ASK you loud or stealth BUT they will ALWAYS DO THE WRONG THING WHEN I SAID LOUD THE WILL GO STEALTH WHEN I SAID STEALTH THEY GO LOUD. But i don't only find lobbies like this that much, but it's annoying
everyone talks about how the thumper is useful in the financier but no-one talks about how good it is in the scientist
“You shouldn’t have loud characters with stealth perks”
My main freelancer, lvl 29, and as a breacher (Thief and Engineer combined): OH NOES, anyways
Lol i'm a specialist i'm the polar opposite of u
2:50 man i am a tank character in my loud character only thing i need is to have my medic friend defend my back and give me some medkits while i take care of onyx unit
Me: watches a loud tips video
My pc whenever i play loud: 💥
Your such an underrated channel im surprised you don't have at least like 100k subscribers.
1:08 i don't do this. why? because i don't have the courage and don't bother to respec my character (for stealth perks) because I've already done it like twice
2:09 In financier thumper is useful for breaching ryan's saferoom
it is, but u can use other breaching methods like c4 or timelock
me when i join public lobby with stealth character because they didn't say loud or stealth and then they say that its loud: ok im out
me with heavy mastery and uses both saw and thumper:
my goals are beyond your understanding
Do you have plans to play with EP Speedruners
Iam late but just saying, the thumper IS usefull in the financer as you can use it in case ryan arrive at the panic room, you can algo bring two c4 but for me its better bring six medic kits than only four
Literally just start a mission and instantly detonate ryan before guards can call backup
Panic shelter is no more
i prefer to just kill him before the alarm
I agree with the guns and attachments, but the sights are really just choice, as long as it’s not like using the highest mag scope on the F57
Highest mag scope 9n f57 is good as long as you have the canted sights attachment. Quick switch for close combat and scope for long range sniping (blacksite exit with rose, financer, lakehouse last, kill house drill)
@@PJBloop yeah that was a bad example, but you get what i mean. Extremely high mag scopes is bad for CQB loadouts.
In Financier legend loud, I'll usually bring the sniper and thumper for weapons. In my inventory, I will have 5 med kits and 1 C4. The C4 is so I use less ammo when opening the panic room. I like to save my ammo so that I can insta-kill aegis and large groups of SWAT that are near eachother. I also have many characters for specific playstyles in loud, and I use my Falcon replica for most loud missions as he is a T A N K.
I know this is 1 year late but u could just hostage ryan
@@susussamongus1437 you can but in loud you can't
@@rycanlase3639 you still can before he start to run, it took him some second to react so you can hostage him by aiming on him
"Always have a plan."
Watch my black dusk legend video.
Everyone : HAVE SEPERATE LOUD AND STEALTH CHARACTERS!!!!
The Chads : Go loud on inf lol
Love how he marked missions where thumper is useful and he marked it right with the tutorial where u cant bring ur stuff anyway/go loud
i feel like saving money on missions is more of a challenge thing then a practical thing
I love seeing skill trees
It helps me improve
Hey Unofficial can you make a guide about how to beat Ironman Legend pls ? i really need your help and that would be nice
@Masterhunter358 I know what is ironman but i just need a guide about how to beat it
@Masterhunter358 sorry i dont have discord
I tried to play financeer stealth (ez) and someone joined I saw theyre weapon, it wasnt even consealed and it was two weapons at the back of the list, he tought they were the best weapons cuz they are expensive
Thats what noobs(newbies) always do every time i see a new player MCS EVERY TIME THAT ***** MCS EVERY Person whos NEW HAS IT i dont get it i mean it is good but u could Think about the concealmend and suppresor
considering what u told, it mightve been the sawblade which isnt bad with the heavy mastery perk and ur weapons dont have to be concealed in financier, u can have visible weapons in financier with disguise, and they probably brought those guns incase things go south
2:02 wait? is the cbr-c not good?
........ no
It is good with swat units
"When ever your fighting an enemy you use bullets"
Wonder why
Thumper is good in fiancer when Ryan is in safe room
Everyone loving entry point till they finish Ironman
Another mistake beginners make, bringing their stealth character on loud heists
Lower difficulties: fine
Elite+: nope
@@RubyTerrarian its fine upto operative
@@threek4018 yeah
Lemme edit the reply
@@threek4018 also even on rookie you need armor. I made this mistake. My skill tree had loud and stealth perks along with useless perks. Basically made it impossible to complete loud or stealth legend
2:09 ya know you can't bring in the freelancer
As a level 83 Infiltrator who's played since beta I am morally obligated to disagree with #3. Things go wrong and a lot of stealth skills are actually a game changer, a speced out thief(and it's hybrid classes) can pop locks(something you encounter a lot) faster than any other tool and hacking gives useful intel(cams and mission intel) along with being able to bypass card readers(even faster than keycards when speced). Also almost everything short of the Sawblade can be hidden with the concealed holsters so if things go south...thump, thump, thump.
rose with a beard
2:02 why you didnt include MM20 ;-;
"Meta" means "Most Effective Tactic Available" This means that unless the mm20 is the undisputed best or second best weapon, it cannot be Meta. Just because something is good does not mean it is Meta. even if it is just slightly worse it can't be considered Meta. When Unofficial talks about the "best" he is talking about the Meta.
1. Not everyone has access to it so it can't be considered "meta".
2. Ammo problems prevents it from being meta even if it were available to everyone.
3. No dexterity or steady aim unless you choose SMG mastery, which is a poor choice.
@@deadperson6227 It's true, but:
1) I am not pretty sure that he meant to say "Meta" under "the best loud guns"
2) Most loud runs are performed in trio and quad, which means you wont care much about ammo if you are playing in squad. (I know, there are still a lot of players that are playing in duo and solo, but still, this is a video for the beginners)
3) What do you mean? You still need these two perks, even if you are taking rifle mastery perk. It's true that SMG mastery gives you advantage only in stealth, but its location is still nearby mercenary default perk.
@@ignat2k451 Do you not understand the concept of "the best loud guns" best implies meta.
Just because other people in the squad have ammo doesn't mean ammo is not a problem. In fact it may be even more of a problem. If someone has no ammo they need to be protected essentially making another player useless. And that still doesn't take care of the fact that the mm20 is not available to anyone making it far less than ideal as a "best" weapon.
I actually have my F57 with a delta sight, and my ch-a with the max scope because I like to have a short/medium and a separate long range weapon. Also, does it feel like you do more damage with your sniper when you’re scoped in? Or is only me?
uhuh, u need to get ur brain checked maybe, max scope? there are no long range fighting in this game, u can get by using the medium scope or even red dot
I know that Cish quit working on Entry Point but did they quit roblox all together or not
can you do one for silent players?
Are dual ravens good tho? I know there’s an ammo issue, but what if we just took that away? I know an infinite ammo glitch you can do with dual pistols.
no dual pistol are trash and always trash if you have f57 and ch-a its no match
@@dungeondemonrbyt4354 Yeah I get what you’re saying. I was kind of a beginner when I posted that comment. Besides, that glitch got patched anyways. I only asked because he never mentioned the bug.
Wait, you mean I shouldn’t just go do the thing needed with my saw and kill everybody i see? Thats legit what i do
Number 11. Taking cover behind doors
I used to farm money with nothing but a stock UP9 (Yes, no armor/med as well) on deposit operative just to buy a golden raven. Good ol' days.
This does along with the bad skill trees thing. Vitality and Shock Plating are NOT the most important perks. In fact you really only need 12 Vitality and 9 Shock Plating if you use cover well. If you don't know how to use cover, well learn to. Quick Swap, conditioning, Battlefield Medicine and equipment specialist are very overlooked perks that are honestly more useful than damage and ammo.
You will almost never need more than 300 (10 Deep Pockets and Vest) and you can usually get by on even less (as low as 6 deep pockets and Vest).
As for damage, yeah having more can help with bosses, but you're usually going to have at least one other person with you, so running out of ammo/dying to the boss won't really be a problem. To 2-shot all enemies besides Aegis with the F57 at all ranges you only need 14 Vital Targets with a suppressor or 16 without a suppressor, so wouldn't recommend getting more than 16.
Reload speed is useful so you can continue shooting much sooner after you start reloading. Since there is no reload cancel in Entry Point, once you start reloading you basically can't do anything until you're done. Spending 2 seconds on this can and will get you killed.
Equipment Specialist allows you to heal faster which will save you're life if you're getting rushed.
Battlefield Medicine is the only perk I would say you should get all of. It basically extends you're life because more health.
Conditioning is a bit controversial, but you should have at least 6. Needing to stop in the middle of the map and walk while 6 different squads are shooting at you isn't really my idea of a good time.
wow you really did your homework there
I really only lose in loud mode because I can NEVER be trusted with C4
I was using thumper in every mission until I watched this video.
Yo When Nightmare Assault Guide?
'I only have 2.8 millions... I should save up some $$$'
Me having 150k: I'm so rich
i just got an idea, how bout a boss fight with a halcyon member, not for story but just a small fight that ends in a few mins.
I remember when the trees don’t save… ahhhh
i have no other loadouts or characters but i’m way too lazy to get all those skill points again (i need a technician)
I’m send this video to my 5 level friend because I’m bored of teaching him to press G in stealth
loud guides in the future? find out next time on the unofficial entry point show
i remember doing deposit rookie loud without armors or medkit when i started cause i tried way too much and used merc
I started saving money every since I beat a daily challenge and lost money from Aegis + Sawblade.
I switched to frontline armour and then gained some profits
(Also, i'm too lazy to grind up a second guy so I just use a specialist with stealth perks, and have a sawblade if we choose loud)
Edit: Ok, I actually started to make more characters, my headcanon reason is that they are all unique mercenaries hired to do the missions, I give each a "personality." Don't ask why
use f57 over teh sawblade cuz walkspeed
@@dungeondemonrbyt4354 cuz range.
for some ungodly reason the sawblade has half the range of the f57 despite using the same bullet. if this wasn't the case sawblade would be completely fine to use
@@lunasagaming5801 it should have a bit more range, like 15-25%
@@Idk_what_to_name it should have the exact same range because they use the exact same bullet.
@@lunasagaming5801 the range increase is to help compete with the f57
Gonna create a loud chatacter now. Which class should I use?
1:35 People who farm kills in ironman legend: And I took that personally.
I use my old comando guy into loud as i like bazooka and his double thumper more now
And also i found out that not blacksite and black dusk missons the swat comes in groups so at the with draw if you can kill all of them on your way to drop the bags on the withdraw you will have no enemys for a whileand it makes running and shooting very useful
I don’t really use F57, so I take Sniper mastery and heavy weapons mastery. Since I either take CH-A with Thumper, or CH-A with Sawblade
Thumper is actually good if you're doing deposit plan a
Thumper in the freelancer LOL
Only free if your loadout costs more than your bank accout?
idk about you, but thumper is a pretty good option in "the freelancer"
in the outro bro killed his own teammate
i was an entry point legend but now i hate entry point