Film camera prices and trends 1970's-1990s. Canon AE-1 was expensive!
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CHAPTER POINTS
00:00 Intro
00:45 1974
05:05 1976
07:27 1978
08:41 1980
10:54 1982
12:20 1985
14:40 1988
16:27 1990
18:17 1994
19:56 1999
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That was brilliant, proper trip down memory lane! I remember browsing through Argos catalogues when I was a kid in the 70’s… now I need to know how much a Raleigh Chopper was new back in the day!
I couldn't find one
Am I the only one that could sit and listen to Roger read and comment on the newspaper?
I was the 'photographic expert' at Dixons in the late 80's-we were still selling 110 cameras until 1989. Crazy times!
Saisho and Chinon stuff
Brilliant video!!! Please do another one... keep up the great work.
The internet wayback machine is also great for these, I have several old catalogues of Fotoimpex from 2002/2003 for example. Interesting to see how much choice there was back then
I forgot about that site! Must have been mid 90s onwards
I bought my ME Super in about 1985 - can't believe I spent that much!
Almost a grand for that Minolta! I'm humbled to have gotten mine for free. I guess we take it for granted that we can collect without much thought what was perhaps someone's big lifetime purchase back in the day.
Absolutely Dane
Very interesting! I was surprised how many different cameras you people had, even the Kodaks are slightly different. Very entertaining.
This was a fun video to watch and some of those cameras brought back some great memories. The Ricoh Mirai you mentioned was actually a nice design. I bought my wife on back in 1990 when we lived in Germany. She wanted something easy and stylish and the Mirai caught her eye in the shop. It turned to work really well but gave up the ghost about 10 years later. I've actually been looking on eBay to see if I could find one that still works but they seem to be rare. Thanks for the video, I've been following your channel for a few years and love it.
Cheers Ronald.
Great, thanks for sharing !
My pleasure!
My first film camera was a Canon AE-1 program, I still have it.
Thanks for a fun and for me a very nostalgic video! I recall as a kid browsing ads and catalogues like this! However 'Home Depot' in The States is equivalent to B&Q not the likes of Argos.
My first 'proper' camera was an Olympus OM10 which I bought for eighty-five sobs in 1982. I also splashed out on the optional 'manual adapter' - I thought I was David Bailey (and still do). Happy, happy days.
Cheers Dave 😊
20:26 One black Minolta AF SLR with a 35-70 zoom there middle right. (1999)
Google Books has quite a few editions of Popular Photography with tons of adverts for alls sorts of photographic equipment ranging from beginner to pro.
I bought my first SLR in 1970 a Nikon F with the 50mm f2.
As I couldn't afford the Ftn metered prism, I purchased a Lunasix 3 meter instead, (listed on one of your Argos pages I noticed).
Thx for the nostalgic trip.
Wow that was a blast from the past 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻
I just got myself a bargain canon g10 for £24, i looked up the price when first released to find out it sold for £370. The camera was listed with a faulty lens mechanism but arrived fully working and looking brand new.
Thanks for the vid, took me back to when i bought a minolta xgm in 1984.
I browse old catalogs too. Found a flickr account that posts them. It's very nostalgic when you find things you used to have.
whats the name?
@@maltemalone5444 "kapitalismiskanneri" but make not that these are finnish catalogs and sometimes he posts pop culture magazines too.
@@JanneRanta thank you! interesting
I loved the disc cameras but the negatives were so small the quality was not great. Still I used them since they fit in a shirt pocket with ease and the negatives on a wheel and the numbered proof sheet you got with them was fabulous. I would buy that film and shoot those cameras now, even with the lower quality, they were more fun than any other format.
Very underrated camera is the Pentax PCAF 35 pocket camera, very nice lens, winder usually goes on them, the manual version anyway. But really nice lens and camera size.
I still have the negs somewhere from the disc camera
Wow ! Great info. 1990, that Olympus IZ 300 was a "bridge" camera. Cross between P&S and SLR. I still have the Super Zoom 330 model. Focus indicator of the light doesn't work, but sharp lens. Ran a roll through it when I got back into film. Does have some exposure control and can set ISO. Was fun to try. Ken
Cheers Ken
Took me wayyyyyy back & I now own a lot of them 😀
In 1985 I bought my first SLR - a Praktica MTL 5B, in a kit with 2,8/28, 1,8/50 and 2,8/135 and a simple camera bag for 400 Deutschmark. 😇 Approximately 105 GBP that days.
Mine from my Mum’s catalogue was £89 but I didn’t get a camera bag 😊 and still have the camera and lenses and still use them😊
@@Resgerr Still having it but rarely using it.
Still got my FTB and A1. Must have had cash back in the day. 😊
5:47 "im not really interested in those im really interested in SLR" Polaroid SX70 says hi from the bottom of the page :)
I would like to know what the f1.2 lenses went for back then.
Holy Cow..you found camera gear prices going back 30 years before you were born 😃 😀 😄 😁 🇬🇧 🇺🇸
the Nikon F was the pro camera - the Nikkormat was the entry level- I spent the better part of about $500 US in 1970 for a Nikkormat and a couple lenses - and I really wanted the F - years later ended up with the F3
Brilliant loving the nostalgia social history. Oh to have a time machine and be able to go back and get a freezer full of film (not 110 or Disk)
great video Roger - 1970s and 1980s 'catalogues' were of significant interest 😂😂😂 Would be good to show the price flux on a graph - the hasselblad I bought 2 years ago has almost doubled already.....
Wow. Sort after
19:15 I bought that Canon Sureshot Z115 last summer for 40€ in perfect condition. It's quite an impressive piece of plastic. And it's not over hyped yet so you can still get it for it's actual price. Unlike the Olympus Mju II for example.
What an interesting video!
Good fun wasn't it Holly!
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss I always love looking back at advertising and who cameras were aimed at. The conversion was such a shock for the Canon SLRs which are pretty standard these days!
Wow that was a blast from the past in 1980 to 1982 when I was doing my photography course yep we looked and dreamed of the Argos and Amateur Photographer magazine was about 3 time the size it is now most camera were out of range but we still dreamed about them wishing we could afford to own them 40 years later I own most of the cameras I dreamed of they still give me so much pleasure
Yep, enjoyed that, too.
Awesome
The "Webbrowsing" before the web.
Nice wee trip into the memory banks there.
A few things - as far as 110 camera went, they were still surprisingly popular all the way up to the mid-1990s. 35mm cameras (either SLR or plastic point-and-shoot) were still "proper" cameras for grownups, and kids like me - I was 15 in 1995 - had to make do with those soap bar-type 100 instamatics or alternatively 126 instamatics. The film and processing was also far cheaper, and we usually shot own brand film from Supasnaps or Boots, not proper Kodak stuff. Really low-res and grainy.
My stepfather had that Olympus AZ-300. It was, and still is, a very good camera. Sharp lens, good zoom, anti-red eye function, double exposure control and spot metering. The lens cap doubled as a wireless remote shutter release as well. Very cool. It's probably still in my mum's loft. Must dig it out some day.
Small piece of pop-culture trivia - the Ricoh camera is a re-badged Olympus AZ-4 Zoom, and can be seen being used by the character Bob the Goon in Tim Burton's 1989 Batman movie.
I have to say I was a bit taken aback by the price of that Pentax ME Super. It's a brilliant camera -almost as small and silent as an Olympus OM - and takes any one of the hundreds of K-mount lenses out there. It is, however, notoriously prone to mechanical failure. The mirror can jam at random moments. It's a known problem with this particular body, and I imagine that the folks who paid the equivalent of a few weeks' wages for it back in the day would have been not best pleased when it spontaneously failed. Still love mine, however (when it works).
Cheers!
I would have thought 15 was more than old enough to upgrade to 35mm.
Well this vid is about a year old now, and I bought an ae-1P to couple months ago (to replace one I had to let go of years ago) and it was around 200 USD. So still stupidly expensive but then again as I said I also did get it. It also wasn't the most expensive one for sale either at the time
I remember paying £99.00 in 1980 , for my Nikon EM including a 50mm F1.8 Nikon Series E lens. My second proper camera was the Nikon FE body in black ( black bodies were £10.00 more expensive back then ), which I paid £160.00 for. Then came the Nikon FM2 in 1983 which was £230.00 and then shortly after the Nikon FE2 body in black for £255.00. Then followed a Bronica ETRS with the 75mm lens for just over £400.00, and my Hasselblad 500 CM with the Zeiss CF 80mm lens for just over a £1000.00 in 1984 ( Pelling & Cross had a promotion with Hasselblad so the camera was discounted by £200.00 ). I have since lost count of the others, the F3-P, F4S, and then the digital stuff and then the Leica M6, M2 & the M3. Some of the asking prices for some old cameras, which are just about ready to give up the ghost now are laughable. The most annoying for me is the way the price of film is being pushed up for ridiculous reasons. I still have a box of 50 sheets of TMY-2 4X5, which I purchased from Calumet in Manchester back in 2009, and the price sticker is still on it, £34.90. Would anyone care to guess how much the asking price for a box of TMY-2 4X5, 50 sheets is now?
Can't believe you remember all the prices you paid! I know the Kodak 4x5 isn't cheap
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss I used to have a memory like a computer. It helped me a lot when I did my mech eng degree back in 78. Sadly as the age has gone up my memory has receded. I think I remember the prices because I was not a rich person, so I had to work hard and save every penny to put towards this hobby of mine.
I bought my Pentax Spotmatic II around 1974 and I think it cost just over a hundred and I payed an extra fiver for a black body this price included the 55mm f 1.8 lens. I still have it in full working order. I might be wrong but I think the 135.. and 35mm f 3.5 lenses came in at thirty five pounds each. This was from Reids Photographic in Birmingham whos prices were very very competitive.
I can imagine it was an exciting time for photography and cameras
I still shoot an AE-1, though it looks like Argos would be closer to WalMart or Sears and Roebuck than it would be Home Depot. Home Depot does home improvement, and they never had cameras outside of security cameras.
I got my Praktica MTL5B brand new from Kay’s catalogue in the 1980s with a 50mm, 29mm and 135mm for £89!- still have it and still use 😊
I shall be featuring a practica soon it's a friends.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss it can take all those lovely Carl Zeiss m42 screw mount lenses and the Helios ones
I got a follow up to that Olympus AZ300 (the AZ330) from 1990 a few months ago from the €10 ‘no-warranty’ bin at the local photo store. And it’s fully functional. Crazy that those were £250 back then.
Amazing !!
I love seeing the old prices!!! I remember buying my Olympus OM1 for around $100 USD in about 76, bought my Yashicamat 124g for the same in 1979!!! Tjose prices will never coome back, my first apartment in the mid 70s was $150 per mont, same one is $3,000 or more!!!
Cameras today are about 3k too
When did Jessops open? Did they take the specialist trade away from the generalist Argos?
I found this....By the 1970s, it had outgrown its premises and moved to a new 20,000 sq ft site on Hinckley Road in Leicester, which was named as the largest photography store in the world by Guinness World Records. The shop later closed in 2008.
A second store followed at the start of the 1980s on London's Finchley Road and as personal cameras became more popular and affordable for the masses, the firm quickly expanded to more than 50 shops.
The 70’s and. 80’s I used a Kodak 110 camera.
Interesting that a lot of those cameras are selling for round about the same price on eBay today
I noticed that but inflation makes those cameras seem cheap used today
I've been buying lots, of old Popular Photography magazines. The first lot was from mid 40s to 51. The oldest was December of 45. It's interesting to read articles from, just after WW2. They didn't refer to it as WW2 yet. Then there are the adds, curiously devoid of Japanese and German cameras. Lol.
The one I'm in the middle of now is from September of 51. It was a really interesting article on dark rooms. I've been thinking of copying it and emailing it to you. I do think you'd find it, quite interesting. If you would like. It's about "dodging" to get better highlights.
Let me know.
Can't wait to read the lot from the 80s I bought.
Sure shellie... roglowe147@gmail.com
There was one SLR in 1994, the Canon EOS 500. @ 19:47, right above your head. Can't see the price. :-)
Edit: 1999 also had a Minolta @ 20:27
But overall, the trends in cameras was interesting to see in this nutshell. Styles changed, colors, and even the kinds of cameras. In 1999 we also saw the first APS cameras, which was film's last hurrah against digital. ;-)
Bought the orange underwater Canon the other day for $5.00..lol
Thought it was yellow 🤣
Well, film wasn't cheap then. And professional cameras were quite expensive. Not much seems to have changed, no surprise there! -- But anyhow it shows that film photography is not that expensive compared to those times! Thanks for reminding us!
Do you remember Kodak Photo CD I loved that, I put all my photos on the CD while I was learning Photoshop
No i don't Gary
I remember a friend buying a Nikkormat back then, £1388 in today's money. In 2010 ago you could pick up 'mats for £20-£30.
1:26 I think the code identifies the film format 126, 110, or 135 and the number of exposures 12 or 20
Yes Matt.
Yep . Wen I was 16 one Pound was 12 Dutch Gulden . Impressive money you had than those big Shilling and Pence coins . But than the time of Miss Bucket and Onslow came and after that the Pound was only 3,50 Gulden ......
My first camera was a Zeiss Ikon , The camera still works perfect only the lightmeter is dead . Later came the Praktica . And than I wanted to have something better , a Fujica with Panagor lenses . No still not happy , than a Minolta with Minolta lenses . And than came the Mama that said come to Mama Mia . Now I have since 1981 a lot of Mamiya's . Pricewise a Mamiya was the Praktica of the midium format camera's at that time ...... Peter .
Fun! I guess in 1973, if you had £130, you could buy a new Canon FTb, or a 4 year old Ford Escort Mexico 😂
Ha ha ha nice one!
Inflation was rampant throughout the 70s, set off by the oil crisis of 73 then rising house prices, high interest rates, high taxes, ooh what fun it was.
Luckily I was a kid just about remember the power cuts and candles
All that hyper inflation in the mid-1970s, I'll bet no-one could afford an SLR.
Still have Rollei B35......
Missed a few slr-s.
Got an Yashica FXD
Me too. £12 from a charity shop. I replaced the body covering myself with a kit from eBay. Now it's immaculate.
I found an excellent condition Canon z135 (extremely similar to the z115, released a couple of years later) last year at an estate sale for $5. 😂😂
Allowing for inflation, cameras back then seem very reasonably priced. A new 1985 canon body and lens for £610 in today's money. When compared to a canon R5 at £4300 body only they were a bargain.
Everything back then was cheap, these days everything is expensive.
Sears... Roger...Home Depot ..lumber
Last two editions you missed two SLR's haha. A Canon and a Minolta, the Canon was lost behind your loaf. ;)
Damn! Lol
If I dream of Argos tonight it's all your fault! :-)
Christ!!! How much was my Hasselblad worth pro rata !!!!??
One thing I noticed was that in the 1980's the form factor of SLR cameras changed and by the late 1980's and on they had become much larger in size and rounded around the edges etc. So, they were NOT as compact as they used to be. I had a Pentax ME Super and the later PZ1. I really did not like the size increase and that was a motive for a more advanced point and shoot for me and likely many others, and at that point you started to think about one with a zoom etc. By the time you were in the mid to late 90's it became obvious digital was the way to go and I never updated any film cameras again. So I think it likely SLR sales became more niche due to size and advancing technology making point and shoots more desirable in terms of form factor and size, auto loading etc.
We had 110 cameras when I was a kid in the 90s. The quality was awful!
As a kid our parents only had 110 cameras for holidays and Christmas. I doubt they judged the quality. Just enjoyed looking at the prints that came back. And binning those under exposed ones with the sticker 😂
Kodachrome...... 8)