My mother found out when she listened in to a phone call. She screamed at me and that was the last time she spoke to me for almost a year. The family was completely confused on what I had done or said to my mom to make her stop speaking to me. I told my brother and he begged me to at least be bi. When I finally told my dad, it was like watching someone cut his strings. He fell to the ground crying. (My father didn't even cry at his father's funeral.) I moved out about a week after telling him. The silence was deafening. I had already lost about half of my high school friends and was so close to killing myself, but I ended up at the local gay and lesbian center and met people that were like me. I moved away and found more friends that accepted me. But I never quite recovered from my families "acceptance", and rarely came home, other than for the annual Christmas party where my mother found some sweet girl she wanted to introduce me to.
Ryan's performances as Billy Douglas were some of the best of his long career. He showed his heart in an uncommon way for a young guy. He was willing to find and display a depth that truly belies his youth and limited experience. He was a brave soul!
. Soaps like this should be commended for handling gay issues in reaching a large daytime audience. Sadly it's NOT OVER parents classmates, jobs and faith groups are still very homophobic.You can still get attack for being LGBT+.. I was attacked last year out here in Brooklyn homophobic pizza store owner. He pretty much shattered one of my meniscus my left knee. I won't be able to get it repaired so I can look normal without a limp. But they suggest a knee replacement what a horrible thing to get ripped open to have something put in just because of somebody's hatred and arrogance and superiority this guy was a maga where all during Trump's campaign. Now like many pizza stores belong to the mob or whatever I'm afraid to shoot this guy sue his f****** feel like cutting his heart out f****** idiot he was. Now I'm limping around people looking at me like I'm a homeless person. Just turned 70 now I got to live with this on my mind for the rest of my life what's left of it
More impressive than anything in his career. I had a non speaking part in a movie of his that got canned in the early 2000's. Him and I entered together through a cafe door, and another scene I was clearing his table. We both were pressed against a door listening for our que to enter. He didn't speak to me, but he was shy and quite short. I tried not to stare, but his makeup was very thick and his shoes made him look taller than he was. He didn't have as much charisma as he did here.
Had a friend from years ago (passed on) He was disowned & kicked out. He eventually became very wealthy & had a great partner. Unfortunately, he didn't do up a trust to protect his assets or his partner. When he was dying, the former family showed up & stole everything. The partner had half the house & was forced to sell it & the family stole everything they could get. Back then there were no "rights" as there are today. Still down South this sort of garbage can happen. Always protect yourself legally.
Ryan never really got the credit he deserved for portraying this young gay boy,in the 90s, people were harsh to gay people. And to portray gay young man must of been really hard in those times 🤪. I think Ryan did a great job (a great young actor). 👍♥️😊✌️😎👏👏👏
In the nineties, my husband and I were sitting in front of the Christmas Tree for pic. We were discrete until my dad said, "At least pretend like you you like each other." My parents were very accepting. Way more than my husband's in rural Mississippi.
I can’t believe I just found out about this storyline and the impact it had. and to be fair, is still having as I’m binge watching as many clips as I can find now! so thank you to all you lovely people who have shared old videos for folks like me to discover all these years later!
@@Wasabi9111 So glad those of us who didn't watch when it aired are able to discover it all these years later! thanks to the lovely fans sharing these clips to the world 😊
.........I was raised Southern Baptist and am half Mexican....we were always taught that being gay is something that is NOT accepted & not "normal". I made sure to always have a girlfriend...and then, at 18, I joined the military - under "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" ------- I never wanted it known. At age 25, I opted to leave the service and when I did my older brother outed me to my mother and the entire family disowned me. My mother eventually came around (5 years later) since she was dying from cancer and I let the past be the past and was there for her in the time of her death. I've always struggled with my sexuality, but I live as an openly gay man - I work in a courthouse and am no longer ashamed. Most of my struggle is spiritually, but there's always going to be SOMEONE who has a problem with it and is vocal about that....but, it's easier when you come from a place of being your true self instead of being what everyone else wants you to be or expects you to be.
I remember how "cutting edge" this story was for its time... they ALMOST made Joey Buchanan gay too but that was just "a bit much" back in '92. Just watching this scene again for the first time since then makes me appreciate it all over again. And KUDOS to ATWT for their current story on gay youth - it looks like they're being given the green light to go where ONE LIFE couldn't 15 years ago.
rips my heart out to see his dad act that way to his son who loves him to see the pain in that boys eyes breaks my heart and his dad just plain pisses me off
"I've always been a stranger." Wow that was a helluva truth bomb, great writing and acting!! Now, I remembered his cameo on Will and Grace which was a nod to this role. God bless that young man.
His character came out of the closet . Something I never did with my parents . I can identify with how Billy felt all of the years before he made the right decision for himself. Ryan is a terrific actor .
The mother should have said to Billy's father "you are to leave this house right now and not come back or I'm calling the police"........the father should have been out....he's a total monster!!!
When I heard this storyline was going to happen I started watching OLTL. I think this was the best story ever on daytime. I am currently watching the ATWT storyline about Luke and Noah but nothing can top this series from 92-93 season.
This story was amazing & led to actually the biggest story on oltl Marty's gang rape by todd manning. She started all these lies that billy was being seduced by andrew. She was in love with andrew & she was spurned so she spread lies. So the gang rape was to redeem her & also was a girl who cried wolf story. Riveting stuff. Movie producer linda Gottlieb produced this & wanted to change day time. 92 to 94 was the best time ever on oltl. Many of the older actors that were on in the 80s felt left out & did not like Linda
How did I miss this when I was living in the States in the 90's. I thought soaps were pretty much garbage . . . which they were . . . but I didn't know Ryan was in one looking like that/
Dad may be having second thoughts about HIS heterosexuality. Reminds me of why I came out. My parents didn't react this way when I came out, but many poor people face the same bigotry as Ryan's character. It's disgusting.
Craigman00, this is definitly OLTL, it is well known that Ryan Phillippe was in it and performed a gay character as you could see in this movie. Anyway, KirklandHeaven, thanks for placing this online, OLTL was never aired in Belgium, nevertheless I heared about it and it was a pleasure to see Ryan Phillippe at the start of his career.
I never realized how easy I've got it as a 17-year-old today. Obviously still being criticised and bullied, of course, but people really did pave the way for us back then, and I genuinely am so sorry for anyone that had to go through this back then. I'm so sorry, but I thank y'all very much for making not only mine, but others and future generations have an easier time with this. I really do appreciate and have sympathy for y'all. ❤️🩹🙏
I saw the majority of this story 31 years ago. I do not recall these scenes however the are very awesome. This was a very well done story & against the early 90s soap style. This was the era of “ SEX SELLS” especially during the summer. To present this thought provoking story was an amazing victory for Gottileb & Malone. Applause Applause for the performers as well!
I have one friend who when he was 18 years old told his parents he was gay. His father beat the living crap out of him while his mother stood there and watched. He said this happened like 25 years ago, his parents told him to get out and never come back. He lives out in L.A. now with his husband and is happy. His husbands family treats him like another son and when he got married he took his husbands last name.
Yet he has has been making his mother cry for quite some time. Also how is he not the boy he thought he was...just because he was Gay...wow that made no sense.
If you want to know, you can unfortunately ask my father. After my mother's passing, he told my brother that my mother made us both "too soft" and followed with "No wonder your brother is the 'the way he is'. She couldn't raise a real man". We haven't spoken since
Why is Ellen's coming out episode considered so groundbreaking when this had already happened? This storyline is very powerful. Why didn't it get more notoriety?
Days of our lives had a gay young married couple with strong storyline until recently the let go most of the cast and pay cuts. I'm afraid it wont be on much longer .shame.
Guess what? There were homos in the Neanderthal Days..there was Gonk and Jonk they were married at the local 7-6 store over at Dino Lane,,.near Lost World Highway. Didn’t you all see the way that Barney look at Fred all the time..Hell even Wilma and Betty were eating Delicious Beaver Pie from time to time! 😜
My family knew about it in the 80s age 12 yrs old but until 90s my family found out we talk about it for days to months but i told my family i still the same person as before i never change and i don't do drugs and copy others i tryed to be part of of lg it didn't work then lgb still didnt work out i had lesbians help me a bit than late 90s i join LGBTQ community i released theres so many different types of gays out there i meet someone there in a relationship for 6 months but it didn't work out nowadays with LGBTQ plus its getting bigger and most LGBTQ r getting so lost because of social media marketing and attention i seen a lot of gays become trans nowadays and dont look happy
My mother found out when she listened in to a phone call. She screamed at me and that was the last time she spoke to me for almost a year. The family was completely confused on what I had done or said to my mom to make her stop speaking to me. I told my brother and he begged me to at least be bi. When I finally told my dad, it was like watching someone cut his strings. He fell to the ground crying. (My father didn't even cry at his father's funeral.) I moved out about a week after telling him. The silence was deafening. I had already lost about half of my high school friends and was so close to killing myself, but I ended up at the local gay and lesbian center and met people that were like me. I moved away and found more friends that accepted me. But I never quite recovered from my families "acceptance", and rarely came home, other than for the annual Christmas party where my mother found some sweet girl she wanted to introduce me to.
I hope you found your chosen family.
I’m so sorry that you were let down so badly by them
Is this a long time ago? It goes to show that these TV shows are still relevant today
🙏🏾
Sounds heartbreaking! Hope you are doing better now 💙
Ryan's performances as Billy Douglas were some of the best of his long career. He showed his heart in an uncommon way for a young guy. He was willing to find and display a depth that truly belies his youth and limited experience. He was a brave soul!
. Soaps like this should be commended for handling gay issues in reaching a large daytime audience. Sadly it's NOT OVER parents classmates, jobs and faith groups are still very homophobic.You can still get attack for being LGBT+.. I was attacked last year out here in Brooklyn homophobic pizza store owner. He pretty much shattered one of my meniscus my left knee. I won't be able to get it repaired so I can look normal without a limp. But they suggest a knee replacement what a horrible thing to get ripped open to have something put in just because of somebody's hatred and arrogance and superiority this guy was a maga where all during Trump's campaign. Now like many pizza stores belong to the mob or whatever I'm afraid to shoot this guy sue his f****** feel like cutting his heart out f****** idiot he was. Now I'm limping around people looking at me like I'm a homeless person. Just turned 70 now I got to live with this on my mind for the rest of my life what's left of it
More impressive than anything in his career. I had a non speaking part in a movie of his that got canned in the early 2000's. Him and I entered together through a cafe door, and another scene I was clearing his table. We both were pressed against a door listening for our que to enter. He didn't speak to me, but he was shy and quite short. I tried not to stare, but his makeup was very thick and his shoes made him look taller than he was. He didn't have as much charisma as he did here.
Had a friend from years ago (passed on) He was disowned & kicked out. He eventually became very wealthy & had a great partner. Unfortunately, he didn't do up a trust to protect his assets or his partner. When he was dying, the former family showed up & stole everything. The partner had half the house & was forced to sell it & the family stole everything they could get. Back then there were no "rights" as there are today. Still down South this sort of garbage can happen. Always protect yourself legally.
Ryan never really got the credit he deserved for portraying this young gay boy,in the 90s, people were harsh to gay people. And to portray gay young man must of been really hard in those times 🤪. I think Ryan did a great job (a great young actor). 👍♥️😊✌️😎👏👏👏
This sort of thing still happens today. Society has not advanced on gay issues since the 90’s as much as you think it has.
In the nineties, my husband and I were sitting in front of the Christmas Tree for pic. We were discrete until my dad said, "At least pretend like you you like each other." My parents were very accepting. Way more than my husband's in rural Mississippi.
Terrible dad and terrible husband. Billy is just an Angel 😇 🏳️🌈
I can’t believe I just found out about this storyline and the impact it had. and to be fair, is still having as I’m binge watching as many clips as I can find now! so thank you to all you lovely people who have shared old videos for folks like me to discover all these years later!
Haha. I’m doing the same thing. I didn’t know anything about this and I grew up in the 90s.
Same
@@Wasabi9111 So glad those of us who didn't watch when it aired are able to discover it all these years later! thanks to the lovely fans sharing these clips to the world 😊
.........I was raised Southern Baptist and am half Mexican....we were always taught that being gay is something that is NOT accepted & not "normal". I made sure to always have a girlfriend...and then, at 18, I joined the military - under "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" ------- I never wanted it known. At age 25, I opted to leave the service and when I did my older brother outed me to my mother and the entire family disowned me. My mother eventually came around (5 years later) since she was dying from cancer and I let the past be the past and was there for her in the time of her death. I've always struggled with my sexuality, but I live as an openly gay man - I work in a courthouse and am no longer ashamed. Most of my struggle is spiritually, but there's always going to be SOMEONE who has a problem with it and is vocal about that....but, it's easier when you come from a place of being your true self instead of being what everyone else wants you to be or expects you to be.
"I've always been a stranger."
That's an incredible line
I remember how "cutting edge" this story was for its time... they ALMOST made Joey Buchanan gay too but that was just "a bit much" back in '92. Just watching this scene again for the first time since then makes me appreciate it all over again. And KUDOS to ATWT for their current story on gay youth - it looks like they're being given the green light to go where ONE LIFE couldn't 15 years ago.
what a good actor Ryan is.
i'd say exceptional fantastic. Then in 2012-5 with Days of our lives with Chandler Massey [another great actor].
This was one of the better storylines 'll had in the 90s. That's right mom don't let him kick your son out
rips my heart out to see his dad act that way to his son who loves him to see the pain in that boys eyes breaks my heart and his dad just plain pisses me off
i'm surprised that the mother just asks for a divorce.....
The bit where he remembers what his dad said while having his photo taken was written so well. Powerful.
"I've always been a stranger." Wow that was a helluva truth bomb, great writing and acting!!
Now, I remembered his cameo on Will and Grace which was a nod to this role. God bless that young man.
Great show. I remember these scenes well. So many great actors started on OLTL.
His character came out of the closet . Something I never did with my parents . I can identify with how Billy felt all of the years before he made the right decision for himself.
Ryan is a terrific actor .
The mother should have said to Billy's father "you are to leave this house right now and not come back or I'm calling the police"........the father should have been out....he's a total monster!!!
every mother should watch this
cleanky
nope
Fried Frog Why are you so fucking rude?
Absolutely 👍🏻🏳️🌈🇬🇧🏳️🌈👍🏻
some people still think and act like the dad, though.
Because they think the lifestyle is a choice. Would gay teens struggling with the lifestyle commit suicide if it were a choice?
@@njpubadjuster3710There are a lot of adults who should never have become parents.
When I heard this storyline was going to happen I started watching OLTL. I think this was the best story ever on daytime. I am currently watching the ATWT storyline about Luke and Noah but nothing can top this series from 92-93 season.
This was a huge storyline on OLTL during 1992. I remember it well.
This story was amazing & led to actually the biggest story on oltl Marty's gang rape by todd manning. She started all these lies that billy was being seduced by andrew. She was in love with andrew & she was spurned so she spread lies. So the gang rape was to redeem her & also was a girl who cried wolf story. Riveting stuff. Movie producer linda Gottlieb produced this & wanted to change day time. 92 to 94 was the best time ever on oltl. Many of the older actors that were on in the 80s felt left out & did not like Linda
I'm proud of the mom in this scenario given the times.
hard to believe this was more than a quarter century ago, and ryan is in his forties now!
Billy is gorgeous!
Great storyline from OLTL and ahead of it's time! Ryan Phillipe did a great job too.
And the drama-queen award goes to..dad!!
Right! All he needed was a tiara and some heels.
Haha true
He maybe needed to ease off of the liquor.
I know right. He’s all like,” Bitch! I was go’n to be the first to put on the tiara.” 👑
How did I miss this when I was living in the States in the 90's. I thought soaps were pretty much garbage . . . which they were . . . but I didn't know Ryan was in one looking like that/
Dad may be having second thoughts about HIS heterosexuality. Reminds me of why I came out. My parents didn't react this way when I came out, but many poor people face the same bigotry as Ryan's character. It's disgusting.
Ryan has always been beautiful
That's true.
Craigman00, this is definitly OLTL, it is well
known that Ryan Phillippe was in it and performed
a gay character as you could see in this movie.
Anyway, KirklandHeaven, thanks for placing this
online, OLTL was never aired in Belgium,
nevertheless I heared about it and it was a
pleasure to see Ryan Phillippe at the start of
his career.
Billy should have said to his father "I was never your son to begin with and I never you loved you!"
Clearly you're not gay and hadn't had to go through stuff like this, like I did with my own parents.
I never realized how easy I've got it as a 17-year-old today. Obviously still being criticised and bullied, of course, but people really did pave the way for us back then, and I genuinely am so sorry for anyone that had to go through this back then. I'm so sorry, but I thank y'all very much for making not only mine, but others and future generations have an easier time with this. I really do appreciate and have sympathy for y'all. ❤️🩹🙏
This soooo fucking heavy!!!!
Literally made me tear up.
This isn't some spicy drama stuff this is real life.
Your Welcome. I'm amazed that more clips from the storyline haven't surfaced yet.
Tell him, Billy!🏳️🌈
Man this was 30 years ago
I know that's right, mom❤
Billy’s father looks like Gladys Kravitz from Bewitched.
The father character is much too evil. This much evil could be spread over a good 2-3 characters.
Yes you are absolutely right about that.
That's how it was in the early 90s. Especially when everyone was in fear of the AIDs pandemic. It was incurable and deadly.
Thanks for posting. WJZ-when it was Baltimore’s ABC affiliate.
I forgot how great OLTL was! Thanks for posting!
I never knew who Ryan Phillipe was. It's like one day he was everywhere. I didn't watch soaps. Lol 😅😅😅
I just saw him last night in cruel intentions
I saw the majority of this story 31 years ago. I do not recall these scenes however the are very awesome. This was a very well done story & against the early 90s soap style. This was the era of “ SEX SELLS” especially during the summer. To present this thought provoking story was an amazing victory for Gottileb & Malone.
Applause Applause for the performers as well!
I have one friend who when he was 18 years old told his parents he was gay. His father beat the living crap out of him while his mother stood there and watched. He said this happened like 25 years ago, his parents told him to get out and never come back. He lives out in L.A. now with his husband and is happy. His husbands family treats him like another son and when he got married he took his husbands last name.
Virginia!! YOU! Stood up to that monster..
Out of the closet , then out of the house - that’s the way it was !!!
This. scene is very blunk and to the point when confronting your family when you're coming out...
There are still parents today who are like the father.
Daytime drama at its FINEST
I understand real life kind of imitated art. Ryan's parents did not want him to play the part of a game teenager.
The father is Jonathan Hogan .... i thought it was Don Knotts who plays Mr Furley from Three's Company!
You're probably right. I am looking forward to how this plays out. Luke and Noah show so much with just facial expressions. No words are necessary.
Yet he has has been making his mother cry for quite some time. Also how is he not the boy he thought he was...just because he was Gay...wow that made no sense.
Yeah, but the Dad is gay....
He looks like Justin Timberlake so much lol
How do you do that how do you reject your own child for being who they are
If you want to know, you can unfortunately ask my father. After my mother's passing, he told my brother that my mother made us both "too soft" and followed with "No wonder your brother is the 'the way he is'. She couldn't raise a real man". We haven't spoken since
Forget Ryan Phillipe, the Dad and Mom steal the scene here.
u tell him girllll...he can pack his shit up and LEAVEEEEEEEE!!! 3:46
Bigger 4life
it's his home
@@friedfrog5447 it's also Billy's house and his Dad kicked him out
@@friedfrog5447not anymore!! She kicked his homophobic abusive ass out
Why is Ellen's coming out episode considered so groundbreaking when this had already happened? This storyline is very powerful. Why didn't it get more notoriety?
the face of pure evil.
ClosetNancy;
is that what father said when he found out you were gay?????
There's plenty of help out there - you need to come to terms with being gay.
Wow I love this!
Days of our lives had a gay young married couple with strong storyline until recently the let go most of the cast and pay cuts. I'm afraid it wont be on much longer .shame.
mom is in shambles, but my girl stood up
son is pissed off
dad is a hot ass mess
Me thinks daddy’s in the closet. He protests too much.
nancyprick;
who's your father????? Fred Phelps?????
hahahahaha
Great hypothesis! Old faithful 😜
How things have changed
weres part 2?
Guess what? There were homos in the Neanderthal Days..there was Gonk and Jonk they were married at the local 7-6 store over at Dino Lane,,.near Lost World Highway. Didn’t you all see the way that Barney look at Fred all the time..Hell even Wilma and Betty were eating Delicious Beaver Pie from time to time! 😜
Is it me or does Billy's dad has the face of the actor who played Jackson on all my children aka actor Walt wiley the resemblance is pretty good
why were you looking for gay ads on craigslist again?
@IDancingCorpseI dude are you serious? How the hell did that happen?
sadlittlenancy;
oh did i hit a nerve by saying you secretly check out gay porn sites???
Theres nothing wrong with that - just be yourself.
😮 oh wow..
@IDancingCorpseI dude, this happened to you?
My family knew about it in the 80s age 12 yrs old but until 90s my family found out we talk about it for days to months but i told my family i still the same person as before i never change and i don't do drugs and copy others i tryed to be part of of lg it didn't work then lgb still didnt work out i had lesbians help me a bit than late 90s i join LGBTQ community i released theres so many different types of gays out there i meet someone there in a relationship for 6 months but it didn't work out nowadays with LGBTQ plus its getting bigger and most LGBTQ r getting so lost because of social media marketing and attention i seen a lot of gays become trans nowadays and dont look happy
W mom
Good on you mum.Just wish my mum was so understanding.
Billy can come to live with me....
He can stay with me.
1:32 dad reads as such a narcissist.
Or a closet case himself.
such a terrible person and father