This makes New Viktor W much more Satisfying...

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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2024

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  • @boepsie8975
    @boepsie8975 18 днів тому +833

    1.9 seconds, by that time Ambessa dashed back to base

    • @cybercorn5966
      @cybercorn5966 17 днів тому +49

      Zone is meant to 'zone' people.
      His zone is not meant to stun, it is meant to be played around, meaning if you do stand in it, you are punished. It's a good zoning tool, or you can plop it on yourself to zone someone from jumping on you

    • @KoreanVaporeon
      @KoreanVaporeon 17 днів тому +17

      @@cybercorn5966 Someone jumping on you (Rengar, LeBlanc, Khazix) would oneshot you in less than 1.9 secs so your last point doesn't stand...

    • @theflyingtomahawk1625
      @theflyingtomahawk1625 17 днів тому +21

      ​@@cybercorn5966 Still his point stands lol, new champions are cancer besides smolder. Aka the less tools they have the better champ designs becuase they aren't overloaded.

    • @ailospjellok7475
      @ailospjellok7475 17 днів тому +18

      @@cybercorn5966 if its not meant to stun, why is that exactly the strongest part of it?
      thats like saying lulu w isnt meant to polymorph
      its a defensive tool, its not some mythical "zoning tool" to miss with

    • @Bakuganmaster51
      @Bakuganmaster51 17 днів тому +7

      @@theflyingtomahawk1625 literally all 3 champions (Rengar, LB and Khazix) are, infact, not new champions at all, the point does not stand

  • @FedericoAguiarOtakuMan
    @FedericoAguiarOtakuMan 18 днів тому +459

    I saw a short of Riot August explaining that there are these sort of fuzzy limits on timers for ccs and stuff like that, I think they corrected that a bit for the new Viktor so that he doesn't feel as clunky. He probably was that way to work in a not-so-modern league and became outdated

    • @GamesPlayer1337
      @GamesPlayer1337 18 днів тому +24

      the "not so modern league" is just spaghetti code
      if it wasnt spaghetti code to begin with this would've been a easy fix probably lmao

    • @acanthastertankmaster6190
      @acanthastertankmaster6190 18 днів тому +13

      There is still fuzzy on the stun timer itself. It's nice the ability now starts the stun at the same time every time to make muscle memory and followups better

    • @FedericoAguiarOtakuMan
      @FedericoAguiarOtakuMan 18 днів тому +3

      @@GamesPlayer1337 yeah that too! I mainly tought of hypermobile characters that basically dgaf about viktor W and can't be punished by it in it's current state

    • @zat1245
      @zat1245 17 днів тому +1

      @@GamesPlayer1337 It’s not spaghetti code though. That’s just propaganda.

    • @moistnugget141
      @moistnugget141 15 днів тому +1

      There is no such thing as "fuzzy end times" its a bug and they don't know how to fix it. That's it

  • @MonoIit
    @MonoIit 18 днів тому +487

    That's why it felt weird to me all this time ...
    Though, why does it stun consistently after aproximatively 1,9 seconds instead of 1,25 ?

    • @HextechLab
      @HextechLab  18 днів тому +152

      I started the timer with the end of the cast time for consistency, but the field is not fully created at that time, so it can't stun yet. The 1.25 seconds only start when it's fully created.

    • @clonekoro6748
      @clonekoro6748 16 днів тому +1

      So, how the slow d be applied? Before or after the w fully created?

  • @hunteradams3269
    @hunteradams3269 18 днів тому +181

    Ive been complaining about this for years. There were times that a viktor w would stun and gravity pull me in for a free one shot kill and i had almost no time to react.

    • @joaovmlsilva3509
      @joaovmlsilva3509 18 днів тому +20

      Now it will consistently do it

    • @bonic7217
      @bonic7217 17 днів тому +1

      @@joaovmlsilva3509 It dosent have the pull anymore you can just walk out of it now

    • @gertistamherd
      @gertistamherd 16 днів тому +5

      Holy. I completely forgot, that it could gravity pull me inside

    • @namfingerstyle8403
      @namfingerstyle8403 16 днів тому +6

      ​@@gertistamherdyeah this is 2nd rework. I miss old core upgrade system.

    • @gertistamherd
      @gertistamherd 16 днів тому +3

      ​@namfingerstyle8403 yes. I remember instandly buying first upgrade for e on aram, basicly becoming god from sec 1 on. Good Times

  • @anticlickbait
    @anticlickbait 18 днів тому +72

    The music made me miss that TFT set 😔😭

    • @alicja_7
      @alicja_7 17 днів тому +2

      best set ever

    • @Artawii
      @Artawii 17 днів тому +2

      what set is this from?

    • @anticlickbait
      @anticlickbait 17 днів тому +3

      @@Artawii Set 10

    • @Vriviring
      @Vriviring 16 днів тому +2

      Definitely

    • @Strlz_Remtachi
      @Strlz_Remtachi 15 днів тому +4

      Hyperpop, Jazz and Cosmonauts(Disco) Remix is the best one

  • @Hyp333R
    @Hyp333R 15 днів тому +4

    THEY TAKING AWAY MY GAMBLING VIKTOR? NO.

  • @lukewilmington9807
    @lukewilmington9807 18 днів тому +35

    Is the music the Disco theme from the TFT set?

    • @uda4699
      @uda4699 18 днів тому +5

      yes

    • @tyranmcgrathmnkklkl
      @tyranmcgrathmnkklkl 17 днів тому +8

      I miss that set, and thanks for reminding me.
      The music mixing was awesome. Can't believe they'd throw away something that probably took a long time to create.

    • @dicarlostrujillo
      @dicarlostrujillo 17 днів тому

      yes! ua-cam.com/video/VbyUJsa3KhU/v-deo.html

  • @deeink
    @deeink 16 днів тому +7

    10/10 music choice had to watch the video twice cause the first time i was vibin' with the song

  • @lovebus00
    @lovebus00 17 днів тому +7

    It should just start slowing instantly, and then stun anything inside after 1.5 seconds of being cast. Stun everything inside, regardless of how long they have been in there.

  • @VDekuMkII
    @VDekuMkII 18 днів тому +96

    I still think they should give his old augmented W back with the function of pushing people inside the W again.
    There are so many champions with dash that a Control mage needs something to at least have a counter measure and his old W was good enough not perfect yet.

    • @molamola9723
      @molamola9723 18 днів тому +45

      Either that or it should ground, any upgrade would be better than it being a fake ability rn

    • @rank1frombottom
      @rank1frombottom 18 днів тому +10

      Ground is a good idea. The pull back was toxic af

    • @valmiro4164
      @valmiro4164 18 днів тому +29

      @@rank1frombottom ground + stun isn't toxic but pullback that you can dash away/flash from is somehow worse?

    • @Cryoptic_
      @Cryoptic_ 18 днів тому +2

      ​@@valmiro4164 yeah idk bout this logic... and also doing anything here we need to keep the 20% slow, otherwise viktor ends up in rilays jail again.
      i think somethink better would be closer to taliyah rocks, where ur allowed to dash and flash still, but get punsihed if u make that choice. flash, does nothing and thats fine, but dashing out of viktor E is a very easy thing to do, i wouldnt hate if it stunned u ever so slightly for a sec or .75 if u chose to dash in the W.
      grounded is imho extremely annoying unfun and uninteractive, not even allowing flash, which yk, grounded shouldnt normally be an issue for non dash champs like juggernauts??
      fun thing about a pull tho, is that it lined ppl up for his W and R.... idk what id want most tbh. i think im just not a massive fan of the spell in general. its great WHEN it works, it just doesnt work often. but riot phroxon also talked about the catch element, and that they dont want that, and if he had that he would need nerfs elsewhere. maybe making it bigger but take longer to activate would help, because so many dash champs have mini dashes, but eh its just old design really.
      something like hwei EW works a lot better. longer activation time, but once its there, it at least reacts fast enough.

    • @sonicwave779
      @sonicwave779 17 днів тому +7

      @@molamola9723 Ground makes a lot of sense, it's literally called Gravity Field.

  • @piotrek7633
    @piotrek7633 14 днів тому +3

    I mean viktor before this update was literally the same, he didn't create any robots, he didn't augment other summoners and the only machine part about him was his armor and gadgets which this viktor also has. How do you miss the machine herald, when he literally wasn't a machine herald, he just sparked magic (hextech) onto enemies. Is jayce in your book a machine herald? He literally does the same stuff old viktor does, what makes viktor a machine herald and jayce not? The fucking armor?
    My guess is that riot is making room for a real machine herald, viktor was a fraud and he just got put in a better place for him lorewise and characterwise. Not to mention that in the old lore HE ASKED FOR CONSENT BEFORE MODIFYING. So what kinda revolution is that? Seems more like he was running a plastic surgery shop than doing a REVOLUTION, do you even know what revolution means?
    I personally love the changes, and i played viktor alot. He's a fictional character after all, don't get attached to character that dont even exist.
    And also, viktor was always a twink, just look up under his old model's armor. He's a skinny scientist covered in metal.

  • @Xeiishi
    @Xeiishi 18 днів тому +5

    oh, so im not crazy.....i would always count and try to time the viktor W to know when id be stunned and when i needed to dash out, yet i couldnt ever seem to get the timing down right. this wouldve been nice to know before i started crashing out over viktor W

  • @beatrizmuller1327
    @beatrizmuller1327 16 днів тому +1

    I play league for almost 10 years and i learned TODAY that Viktor's W takes a randomized time to stun
    I always thought that skill was werid tho

  • @Nerosupratattoo
    @Nerosupratattoo 17 днів тому +7

    People be complaining about the W lifting rocks as if the first achievement of hextech wasn't fucking anti gravity

  • @tender0828
    @tender0828 10 днів тому +1

    They called it a full rework after just that?

  • @gioka6914
    @gioka6914 17 днів тому +1

    I thought they Will make it pull the units in the middle like before
    That would be neat

  • @s.slayer0124
    @s.slayer0124 16 днів тому

    Ahaaa that's why i randomly stunned in aram earlier than it usually seemed like

  • @dope7846
    @dope7846 16 днів тому +1

    just give him “grounded” and reduce a bit the stun duration. Idk how much of a difference it would make but to me it feels like an easy solution

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras491 17 днів тому

    Huh... Interesting stuff!
    Thanks for the video!

  • @okaonis2280
    @okaonis2280 17 днів тому +13

    They should also give it a grounded effect similar to cassiopea tbh

  • @Smite_Sion
    @Smite_Sion 12 днів тому

    If they can fix Viktor W, I hope they will fix Sion Q, it has a similar problem with determining if the Q is a knock-up or not. Also it keeps track of list of targets, if you release Q when someone flashes into the Q, but the game hasn't updated the list yet, the target doesn't get hit at all.

  • @herrscherkiller3432
    @herrscherkiller3432 16 днів тому

    Glorious quality of life change

  • @raziel5835
    @raziel5835 18 днів тому +15

    Is it me or the Q Animations looks way less clunky? Ive seen some gameplays on the PBE but im not sure. Maybe is just the new model idk

  • @ZDY66666
    @ZDY66666 15 днів тому

    Relax people. Keep in mind it’s also a slow. You’re not expected to hit jackpot stuns on every champ and yes lots of dashing champs now but you can play around that or even use it on yourself or team mate timing their engages etc. It would be way too open if W just AoE stunned even 50% of the time.

  • @mendronesg
    @mendronesg 11 днів тому

    I'm pretty sure I've escaped Viktor's W before, because of that inconsistency. I could feel it taking too long to stun

  • @spencerweiss6337
    @spencerweiss6337 12 днів тому

    Set 10 really was TFT’s peak

  • @gladiator2436
    @gladiator2436 16 днів тому

    Ho can u travel with someone with thresh lantern and fast Travel(tp)

  • @yusufyilmaz852
    @yusufyilmaz852 16 днів тому

    wish they float like they floated in the first season

  • @ShentinelSan
    @ShentinelSan 15 днів тому

    song name?

  • @VectorsEndgame
    @VectorsEndgame 18 днів тому +3

    So when is it coming out?

    • @kaworuswife
      @kaworuswife 18 днів тому +4

      Next Wednesday/Thursday whatever the timeline you live in

  • @TheAbsoluteTWINKofHyperdeath
    @TheAbsoluteTWINKofHyperdeath 18 днів тому +13

    still can't believe they made no changes to his W, that was the one move that needed one desperately but Riot said no, no fuck that, let's change ult for no reason

    • @minhcuonghuynh2768
      @minhcuonghuynh2768 18 днів тому +5

      Phreak: "We asked the Viktor mains about this and they said just kept the current W for balancing, or else we had to gut everything else from Viktor."

    • @sonicwave779
      @sonicwave779 17 днів тому +5

      IMHO everything besides his E should have been thrown in the garbage.

    • @cybercorn5966
      @cybercorn5966 17 днів тому +1

      They... literally did make a change to his w?? It's now more consistent.
      Did you not watch the video LOL

    • @TheAbsoluteTWINKofHyperdeath
      @TheAbsoluteTWINKofHyperdeath 17 днів тому

      @@sonicwave779 agreed

    • @Bigtoor69
      @Bigtoor69 17 днів тому

      @@minhcuonghuynh2768 Tbh i think riot just lied about, asking Viktor mains.

  • @simplyandrei1877
    @simplyandrei1877 17 днів тому

    I see that a lot of videos are digging the Disco Fever from TFT Set 10.

  • @f2puser-g9i
    @f2puser-g9i 16 днів тому

    Didn't expect the tft song lol

  • @ailospjellok7475
    @ailospjellok7475 17 днів тому +10

    for new viktor, this has not been fixed, its still way longer than it should be, they should just remake it to a 5 second duration with a slow permanently inside it, but every 1-1.5 seconds anything inside gets stunned, so not only can you essentially guarantee it stunning, you can also get a lot more value from it, but its also still gonna be scary as hell and most champs will be able to do something about it

    • @twitchizle
      @twitchizle 15 днів тому

      You mean like soraka E

  • @TealRubyy
    @TealRubyy 12 днів тому

    It's tick rate. It's always tick rate.

  • @revengeofshadow9353
    @revengeofshadow9353 17 днів тому

    We were promised a VGU but got an ASU instead...

  • @user-tg3hm1wd4n
    @user-tg3hm1wd4n 17 днів тому

    old animation still looks better to me,it looks more technical than being magic

  • @androidedoidao
    @androidedoidao 16 днів тому

    ooooooh so im not crazy, that W really is bullshit lol

  • @jabz1582
    @jabz1582 17 днів тому

    I knew something was off about viktor W on live!

  • @Crescentstar99
    @Crescentstar99 12 днів тому

    But the old one was so clearly viktor w this one looks like it could be any ability, hard to see in a teamfight

  • @tomato6138
    @tomato6138 11 днів тому

    A Morgana's Q root at lvl 1 last almost the same time Viktor needs to wait for his W stunts to be activated, and his W stunt at max lvl still last less time. LoL
    But I guess it's fine since it's an area stunt in a basic ability. xd

  • @trevormeed7044
    @trevormeed7044 16 днів тому

    his w should ground. like this champ was not designed for this game anymore lmao

  • @barkn7639
    @barkn7639 7 днів тому

    set10 disco tune

  • @AlbertChang17
    @AlbertChang17 18 днів тому +2

    Nice! So instead of stunning faster sometimes, it's always stuns slower. Great buff Riot 👍

  • @kimyeontan1422
    @kimyeontan1422 15 днів тому

    his w is so freaking useless i wish it would have been a grounded effect instead of a delayed stun

  • @jaxonmcalley
    @jaxonmcalley 17 днів тому +3

    Can someone hear that sfx? That ain't hextech anymore, he's just gay.

  • @ksguile
    @ksguile 17 днів тому

    I miss the pull

  • @seisoch6969
    @seisoch6969 18 днів тому +2

    so the "rework" was just bug fixing him

    • @deadbymeme2311
      @deadbymeme2311 17 днів тому +2

      Its not a bug. It is intentional. Its just not intuitively designed. Thats why it was changed. As for the rework. Its an ASU. Not a VGU.

    • @ailospjellok7475
      @ailospjellok7475 17 днів тому +3

      @@deadbymeme2311 the ability that doesnt stun you after the given amount of time isnt a bug?
      please tell me you can go back to kindergarten to learn english because you clearly have a very weak grasp of it
      also it didnt bug fix him, it made the bug slightly less buggy, but still bugged regardless

    • @deadbymeme2311
      @deadbymeme2311 17 днів тому +2

      @@ailospjellok7475 you didnt know that every ability that cc‘s doesnt cc the exact amount of time that it specifies because of the ingame tickrate? You can listen to Riot August on this topic. Very informative for those who were unaware.

  • @axelb7775
    @axelb7775 17 днів тому

    still the tooltip shows 1,25 sec and it stuns after nearly 2 sec

    • @Brawph
      @Brawph 17 днів тому

      timer in video is including cast time and "arming" time. Tooltip only how long it takes *after* it's armed, same as most traps.

    • @imp_raziel
      @imp_raziel 15 днів тому

      @@Brawph Still inconsistent...

  • @luufia
    @luufia 14 днів тому

    Ok. But this cape tht drags on the floor loooks sooooooo fuuuuucking stupid!

  • @VaMage
    @VaMage 17 днів тому +1

    Turns out bwipo was wrong.

  • @gladiator2436
    @gladiator2436 18 днів тому

    Does axium archanist work on karma /udyr ??and other champs without and ult like jayce

    • @zankaa8031
      @zankaa8031 18 днів тому +4

      We still asking this basic question when malignance has been in the game for more than a year?

  • @cephalonbob15
    @cephalonbob15 18 днів тому +16

    Still useless against most Mid. If you get stunned by this ability you legit need to uninstall.
    Mages wont let you approach with w wihout chunking you go bits and running away, melee just ignore it and dash onto you.
    Give it the "ground" effect of singed W and it will be perfect.
    also remove the stack mechanic and instead have it deploy the first "slow" part then automatically deploy the stun part as a separate instance so it will always stun 1.25 seconds after deployment regardless of stacks.
    so instead of the:
    drop tick-tick-tick stun
    Its Drop-1.25 sec-stun regardless of number of targets inside or someone has been inside stun.
    So you can walk in 0.1 sec before it triggers the "stun" effect and still get stunned.

    • @666ROZSPIEWANY
      @666ROZSPIEWANY 18 днів тому

      Singed's and Cassio's ability to stop from using movements in Viktor's W would have much more sense than it is now.

    • @tomasherrero3197
      @tomasherrero3197 18 днів тому

      Yeah, like Soraka's E

    • @conscripthornet4430
      @conscripthornet4430 18 днів тому +1

      @@tomasherrero3197 Soraka E at least silences

    • @darkbrother339
      @darkbrother339 17 днів тому +2

      Twisted Fate has a point and click stun on a 4s cd lmao

    • @tyranmcgrathmnkklkl
      @tyranmcgrathmnkklkl 17 днів тому

      I like this, although to be grounded and then stunned seems a little strong. Perhaps grounded and silenced?
      Anyhow, your idea would open the door for great visual effect in the buildup to stun.
      What if Victor's W acted similarly to Nunu's R slow where it gradually builds up to 90%, but instead of massive damage, it stuns. Maybe even give Viktor the option to recast for an earlier mini stun.

  • @gagers78
    @gagers78 13 днів тому

    they rescripted it, says in the twitter post on the patch

  • @L.BTransmission
    @L.BTransmission 10 днів тому

    Now 2.5 seconds

  • @satiii4248
    @satiii4248 15 днів тому

    so its consistently worse?? well done riot

  • @ianmorr222
    @ianmorr222 16 днів тому +1

    Regardless of if people actually consider this a buff to Vik, this ability is severely outdated and needs to ground enemies that are inside of it. At least.

  • @QuestionableObject
    @QuestionableObject 18 днів тому

    Its still a downgrade... Deploying an actual device, the new animation makes sense for the new design but they could've at least had some kind of animation like a rune or something appearing

  • @JoseSanchez-nf7ob
    @JoseSanchez-nf7ob 16 днів тому

    I still cant believe how ugly the cap is and model as a whole

  • @alexoush_120
    @alexoush_120 18 днів тому +2

    Can you reduce the music in your video please, it's always too loud. Please

  • @jy4057
    @jy4057 16 днів тому

    Imagine having a stun that takes 2 seconds to activate in 2024 and as a control mage 😂. Viktor is still a shit champ lol.

  • @6DarthSion9
    @6DarthSion9 16 днів тому

    I hate twinktor so much. Keep his design as is none of this arcane BS.

  • @escadora2206
    @escadora2206 16 днів тому

    bruh so you're implying its more satisfying for the w to stun to take always almost 2 sec, and therefore beeing always trash rather than it randomly stunning sometimes after 1 sec making it actually stun for once?
    Just delete this shit and give him a proper ability, this shit is TERRIBLE

  • @superblack898
    @superblack898 11 днів тому

    Still a dogshit ability that doesn’t belong in modern league

  • @jaxonmcalley
    @jaxonmcalley 17 днів тому

    So he gay?

  • @Mloteks71
    @Mloteks71 18 днів тому +6

    New Viktor looks terrible

  • @ZumoDePapaya
    @ZumoDePapaya 18 днів тому +1

    Can you stop with the clickbait titles thanks

    • @KingOfMalevolence
      @KingOfMalevolence 18 днів тому +34

      What's clickbait about this title? New W is more consistent and therefore more satisfying to use.

    • @EtharealBTB
      @EtharealBTB 18 днів тому +4

      That's really not a clickbait title

    • @skywalkerjohn8965
      @skywalkerjohn8965 18 днів тому +8

      Can you stop with the clickbait comments thanks

    • @ZumoDePapaya
      @ZumoDePapaya 18 днів тому

      @@KingOfMalevolence It's clickbait because the title of the video is purposefully vague about what the viktor change actually is to get you to click on it, if you don't think it's a particularly bad case of it that's fine but it is clickbait by definition

    • @nael2507
      @nael2507 18 днів тому

      I agree with this guy