Rule 1 for being a guest on Real Time, when Bill is doing his final editorial to camera, NEVER interrupt him, you will regret it if you push it too far.
@Simulation algorithm, when the Drumpf family immigrated here they legally changed it to Trump. So Donald Trump’s real last name is Trump. He was born Donald Trump and not Donald Drumpf.
There is nothing wrong with encouraging healthy eating habits. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging that obesity is unhealthy and that a lot of people suffer from this problem. That said, this is how I always interpreted body positivity : Don't be an asshole. Just because someone is overweight, that doesn't mean they have to curl up in a ball and fixate on their self loathing. You can love yourself but strive to do better. You'll probably never achieve self acceptance if you wait for perfection. That applies to every one
Agreed! Wish someone would explain to Bill that there is substantial evidence that obesity isn't the fault of the victim. I mean fuck, the chemical used in most plastics actually targets the top gene associated with type-2 diabetes. medium.com/@InfinoMe/diabetes-time-to-resort-to-plastic-measures-500cdf1fe528 With obesity, its been shown over the last decade that a sizeable fraction (~30%) have antibodies for a virus that has been repeatedly shown to make lab animals fat regardless of their food intake : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infectobesity This isn't "enabling" - what is "enabling" the obesity epidemic to continue is the continuous assumptions that people make about it. For someone as pro-science as Maher, I'm disappointed.
@adam brown that's just one of many causes for obesity. Other causes include bacterial infections of the intestines, exposure to common chemicals like BPA, and other environmental exposures. medium.com/@InfinoMe/diabetes-time-to-resort-to-plastic-measures-500cdf1fe528
cosmo Actual serious question here - if obesity isn't the fault of the obese person then why does America have an obesity problem that far outstrips that of basically every other nation? Not to mention a rapid increase in obesity over the last 30 years.
You should read the link I posted. medium.com/@InfinoMe/diabetes-time-to-resort-to-plastic-measures-500cdf1fe528 This is informative as well : ua-cam.com/video/_7RfgJhvyow/v-deo.html
What I don't like I people shaming others as if they aren't very very aware of their unhealthy habits. A lot of people struggle with getting healthy and telling them they need to get healthy is like it's own version of mansplaining.
I've been a healthy weight and overweight in my life. It has always been clear to me that the first stage of change is acceptance. Whether that is seeing bad photos of yourself or others mentioning the weight you are putting on. The only scenario in which those are bad things is if you put up your defenses, live in denial and think of yourself as the victim. What you should be doing is figuring out why you put on weight, if it bothers you enough to lose it, and actually doing something real to change it. It's one thing if you're fat and don't want to change. That's your choice. If someone calls you fat you can say, "yeah I know. I'm ok with it" and let it go. If it bothers you, you are the one who needs to fix it. Find me more than one good positive of being fat? Other than food is tasty.
I guess I see people's weight problems like other people's addictions: alcoholism, smoking, gambling, etc. It's just that those people can hide their problems while the fat person will always be visible. I think for some obese people their medical problem isn't necessarily physical, but psychological. Sometimes people eat to ease anxiety or depression because it releases those "feel good" chemicals inside their brains, sometimes people over eat because they've been abused or are lonely and it makes them feel "full" - you never really know why a person has become fat (or allowed themselves to become fat) until you get to know them. (and of course, some people just love food.) Personally, when my mother started pointing out that I needed to lose weight, I became fixated on my body, was increasingly unhappy, and didn't lose any weight. After I stopped obsessing about it and just focused on eating better (more fresh food, smaller portions, tiny amounts of sweets to satisfy my cravings) the weight melted off.
Nice comment but I would add that sometimes it's not an overeating problem. I've known plenty of people who eat less than me and much more veggies but outweigh me by alot.
I'm sorry ... I'm gonna catch shit for this, but these comments are irrational. Observing that someone is obese and not objectively beautiful is NOT hate speech. Hate speech is degreding or discriminatory speech which seeks to deny rights to an individual or group. Hate speech occurs against racial minorities and homosexuals for example. Calling someone fat is mean, but it is not "hate speech". Also, being black or gay is NOT a choice, being overweight is. Sure, there are hormonal imbalances and even mental illness which could explain why some people overeat or dont excersise for lack of energy and therefore gain a few unsightly lbs. But let me be clear.... NO ONE IS HUNDREDS OF POUNDS OVERWEIGHT BECAUSE OF A MEDICAL ISSUE. EATING TOO MUCH FOOD AND HAVING A SEDINTARY LIFESTYLE IS WHAT MAKES PEOPLE OBESE. #logic
"NO ONE IS HUNDREDS OF POUNDS OVERWEIGHT BECAUSE OF A MEDICAL ISSUE"? You're wrong. Food addiction is clearly a medical issue...as much so as addiction to alcohol or drugs, depression, bipolar disorder, or schizophrenia. In fact, food addiction is the most difficult type of addiction to conquer because it's impossible to go cold turkey from eating, and temptations are EVERYWHERE. Whether or not comments such as Bill's fit someone's narrow definition for "hate speech" is irrelevant...it's douche-bag speech that sounds like something our idiot president would say. Plus, it's a lazy excuse for program content...there is a plethora of great topics out there to aim his mockery at...this was a cheap shot.
August Bisson Yes, people are often persecuted and criticized for many of those things. It's called the pressure of conformity. I would NEVER encourage or support someone's choice to call another human being fat, skinny, ugly, etc. But that doesn't mean that we should glorify gluttony and praise all body types as beautiful. Sorry for my lack of clarification. I'm trying to agree with Bill's point that we shouldn't feel pressure to support "beauty in any size" PC nonsense. If someone is obese and happy, good for them, but I don't have to tell them they're beautiful and I shouldn't be ridiculed for electing not to do so. Obesity is a health or mental health issue and should be treated as you suggested, with kindness, support, and medical attention, but NOT praise.
I've never supported rescinding speakers at my school (While I was there we had Obama, Cheney, Ron Paul, among others) but I totally understand people who don't want their loan money to be going to pay for speeches from people they wouldn't choose to support. At a private University that's not censoring free speech, that's the free market. These people are selling their opinions and some people don't want to buy.
Come on Bill!!!! I am a big supporter of you my friend!!!! I have have obese friends, and i'm about 50 lbs overweight myself (the doctors tell me).........and to talk shit about anyone who is overweight, whether it be because they are eating too much, or have a health condition, just ain't right!
There is a world of difference between high school bullies saying "Haha, you're a fatass." and a scientist saying "My study has concluded that there is a strong correlation between obesity and heart disease." SJWs need to understand that merely pointing out the health risks of obesity does not mean you are on some secret mission to make all fat people depressed.
Hmm.. this idea could have more comic resonance with more viewers if the underlying, systemic issue was addressed rather than a more vapid, surface-level critique: it is hard to deny that obesity is largely bolstered by the fact that Western capitalist culture has made shitty, unhealthy food more affordable. Healthier, organic food, which can largely contribute to reduction in obesity (this also depends on a persons lifestyle, duh) is not affordable for the mass populace. This obviously has much to do with wage stagnation and other problems that are clearly too much to address in a short segment. But rather than a vapid critique of the fact that a lot of people are fat, why not look at why? I understand comedy often offends some audiences as it may illuminate societal problems or ills that many are uncomfortable in acknowledging. But look on a deeper level here and you will find yourself with a larger audience, more support, and likely, better comedic material as a whole. This surface-level shit is really just cheap shots. There is a clear correlation between obesity and poverty. There is much academic literature to explain this. So why not use it to your advantage and serve as a force for good in making people recognize the underlying societal problems that cause issues like this? Just a thought.
Renlys Other Lover oh yikes, thanks a bunch! I was expecting to receive comments about how I'm such a dumb bitch, but I'm sure I'll receive an influx of those soon too! Much appreciated dear.
Mal c.H that is true, but Bill attacking the people like Sarah Palin actively try to discourage healthy eating is also a problem. I think of it another way: when the demand for healthy eating becomes greater than the supply, if people actively demand for healthy foods then the market will have to adjust. Right now the market doesn't see the need for healthy eating because people are not actively demanding it. I don't believe that healthy eating is inheritedly unprofitable, the rest of the world certainly doesn't agree with that. If we keep enabling people by telling them that their bad eating habits are okay, corporations will continue to exploit that and continue to make bad food. Change have to come from the people themselves as well, the people have to show interest in healthy eating, and the corporations have to change their products.
Frank Booth that's why I stated In my comment that depending on what is addressed and how it is approached, it's too much for a short segment. I guess you didn't read that part or chose to ignore it? Insufferable indeed
Bipartisanship happens a lot more in the center - like both sides being for the Iraq War, both sides being for the Wall Street bailout, both sides approving insane increased levels of defense spending every year, both sides agreed on the Patriot Act, etc.
I'm fat and I know I only have myself to blame. If someone wants to make jokes about it, I just shrug it off like a mature human being. Being offended it's not a right, freedom of speech is. To be honest, the only complain I ever give is the lack of originality of the jokes I hear, and when someone comes with a good one, I even laugh.
Fat shaming isn't a joke I find funny ever. It's not even a joke. It's bullying. You don't need to pretend everyone is beautiful, or even healthy, to not engage in fat shaming. You aren't showing concern or helping by fat shaming. They have enough problems; they don't need your unkindness as well. Shaming should be reserved for actions which transgress on proper social or interpersonal conduct. Yeah, obesity is a problem, but bullying is not the solution.
Hey Bill, if you're so worried about Coulter (not) being banned from speaking at Berkeley (just to be clear, she wasn't banned), why not invite her back on your show? You've done it before. Help a sister out if her career has been so irreparably damaged. Both you, and Berkeley, have the right to book whoever you want for whatever reason. Oh, and there is a middle ground between fat shaming and Shamu; it's called "you do you." Weren't you the one ranting about a year ago or so about how we need to stop railing about the dangers of football because people have a right to live their lives the way they choose, even if it causes brain damage? Answer: yes, you were. So why is a person who chooses to eat a diet that makes them fat any different than a guy who chooses to get brain damage playing football? They're both choices that are self-destructive, but give enjoyment to those involved, so what's the difference? Is it, perhaps, because you, personally, find the former disgusting and the other entertaining? If so, no one has to cater to your personal preferences. By your own admission. Just my two cents... or rather, my reminder to you of your two cents.
I'm not obese and I was never obese, but there are many reasons why people get that way. I love Bill Maher, but totally disagree with him in this subject. It is true that a lot of people are obese because they can't control themselves, however, many people suffers with obesity for other more serious reasons, such as depression, thyroid and hormonal problems, etc. Please, don't say things like this because you can hurt so many people that have a real difficult time losing weight.
With all the issues you could use your time to talk about you choose to make fun of people with obesity. Obesity is not a joke, it's a disease, the causes are complex and the solutions are as well. Would you make fun of someone with cancer, diabetes or any other disease. Why is it that society seems to think that obesity is fair game? It's not OK and not funny. Suggestion: new writers and if that was all you... retire.
I was once watching My 600lb life, and that show truly shows how mental disease can overtake someone's life. The problem is people tend to think that others would react to situations in the same way as them, when not everyone has had the same life experiences.
Whoa. That was such a weak segment. If you cater to liberals (myself included), don't expect them to laugh at this. You had to basically pull the laughter and applause from people at every punchline.
Ok, people need to double check their eyes. If you see a person who eats truckloads of sweets, has a weight problem that will result in him/her having health problems, how on earth is your "kindness" helping them actually? There is a thing as being "to kind".
It's not about critique. There have been countless examples of people not being enabled to speak at all. Milo, Coultier, Bill Maher had a petition against him from speaking at a university. Criticize all you want, but let them speak!
Is it that simple. Maybe the attitude is the problem. The self righteous, whiney left that can't make rational decisions anymore because someone needs to validate their feelings.
Well the health care field makes a sh*t ton of money off of Unhealthy obesity so why would they want to prevent their customers from coming as much. God forbid they make less money off health conditions that can be prevented with life long food habit changes and exercise. And I am not talking about people who eat healthy and exercise but have a genetic structure of being heavier set body type because my little sister is 5'5 and around 190lbs but her cholesterol is lower than mine. That is just fat under the skin what we have to be worried about is fat on the organs and even skinny people can have that with poor eating habits.
Bill, I watch you every week and I will continue to do so. You are so educated and provide such insight on so many topics; however, you totally blew it this week with your comments regarding fat-shaming. I've been a nurse for 24 years and at age 52, I've been affected by obesity for as long as I can remember. I was the largest kid in my class the first day of first grade. What should have been one of the best days ever is instead forever burned in my memory as the day I was nicknamed "chub chub." That name haunted me for all 12 years of school. I went on countless diets, Weight Watcher's, grapefruit diet, on and on all throughout high school. As an adult, I continued to gain weight, had two pregnancies and gained more weight. In 2001 I was able to have gastric bypass surgery and as a result for the first time in my adult life, I was at a healthy weight. A weight at which my obesity related health conditions were all resolved. However, not everyone has access to that level of treatment. Not everyone who has access to treatment (insurance coverage) is able to tolerate the treatment. Some people have more resistant forms of obesity requiring multiple forms of treatment (similar to diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease). Just in case you missed the little tidbit from the American Medical Association in 2013, obesity is a disease process. There are multiple studies showing fat-shaming does NOT incite weight loss, instead it predisposes the individual to additional weight gain. Bill, I implore you, please become more educated on this topic. Potential guests for your show: Joe Nadglowski, President and CEO of the Obesity Action Coalition; Stacy Brethauer, MD, FACS, FASMBS, President American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery; or me - Registered Nurse, Certified Bariatric Nurse, President Elect of Integrated Health American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery and an individual affected by obesity who has worked with thousands of others affected by this chronic disease.
Honestly, this was a total flop. I was expecting something more in-depth from the title, not whatever the hell point he's trying to make here. Bipartisanship can sometimes be bad because it can deliver poor results that don't accurately solve the problem at hand. When someone says 2+2=6 and another says 2+2=4, it doesn't mean 5 is the right answer. But Bill didn't touch on that. This was some surface level, incoherent bs.
I know it's hard to hear another liberal criticize us liberals, but it's important to take the criticism in stride and learn from it in order to better our political movement as a whole
Having just moved to Indiana I think the problem is a little more complicated than this when it comes to obesity. Every type of meat is half the cost it is in California and almost every type of vegetable costs at least 50% more. Minimum wage here is $7.25/hr, people just can't afford to buy healthy food most of the time.
I wish I could get through Bill's thick skull on the "fat" issue... The problem with obesity is not that people are accepted at any size, but is the added sugar in just about any food there is. Constant criticism on what and how people eat or look doesn't make any good, only the opposite. I thought he should get that, the guy who oppose the "war on drugs "...
Retrovirus Come on! Have some respect. Those people can't choose what to eat & what not. They were held hostage by the foods & threatened to be killed instantly if they didn't ate them.
Holy shit actually made it through 5 minutes and 30 seconds of Bill Maher. Strangely enough, fucking agreed. First display of intelligence as it should reflect in the mind of every intelligent American. THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS FIRST FOR A REASON.
The problem with complain about discouraging 'Fat Shamming' is there is a kernel if truth of a problem there. Obesed is a problem, but Fat shamming includes shamming the bigger body type that AREN'T Fat but are "supermodel thin" either.
AvgJane19 But its also important to know that being fat isnt some permanent feature you have to live with. you can change being fat by eating healthy and exercise, its not like race or gender where those are things you HAVE to live with.
AvgJane19 You still promote an unhealthy life-style by saying that they are perfect the way they are. Back when I wad obese, I wanted this to be true, yet I only felt better after losing my excess pounds. Fat shaming often is cruel, the opposite isn't the solution either, though.
This is just Bill and his staff taking the lazy way out writing jokes. Fat jokes stopped being funny for anyone of moderate intelligence in about the 4th grade. Besides, if you actually care about the problem of obesity and its negative health effects, making those struggling with the problem feel like shit about themselves is the least effective way to go about it. Come on "Real Time" writers, you're better than this...hell, Trump's tweets write better jokes all by themselves.
Did you actually take a look at some of these ''beautiful bodies''? They are far from supermodel. They are far from normal. They're fat is what they are. A lot of these ''beautiful bodies'' are female and they are encouraged to stay on this course because they are just as beautiful as they will be thin. Then they wonder, why they are single or why men don't want to date them. It's not only a health issue, but a social issue, that later cause mental health issues. If you think that Amy Schumer or Ashley Graham are ''normal weight'', then you're part of the problem. They're not normal weight. Salma Hayek or Sofia Vergara are bigger types of bodies. Those previous ones aren't normal. They're fat.
I think Maher has a problem with fatness or fat people. It's something I've taken note of just here and there. Thought I'd mention it and see if anyone else has noticed it. I don't really have any issue with 99% of what he had to say in his monologue above with the exception of the fact that there is nothing wrong with people learning to love the body they are in. You should likewise learn to take care of that body. However, not everyone is made equal and I've known several people who live an incredibly active lifestyle who are still very large and have been for 10-15 yrs. You shouldn't feel shame to be who you are. And societally speaking, we also have a depression issue which is compounded when you have people who hate everything about themselves. This doesn't help them become motivated to get up and move around as depression acts on the mind to make you feel as if you have no will or ability to move when it gets severe enough. I'm not sure if Maher understands all these complexities and others. But I know that with the mental health crisis we have in this country, we shouldn't be discouraging anything that ENCOURAGES them to feel GOOD about themselves!!
"several people who live an incredibly active lifestyle who are still very large and have been for 10-15 yrs". thats because they consume too many calories. no exercise can fix a bad diet
Free speech is on attack from both sides... But not equally. The president shouting the equivalent of 'Luegenpresse' is not equivalent to idiots on a college campus.
There are people with actually health problems which makes them fight to lose weight while there is big - no pun intended - and loud group just screaming every time someone asks or suggest they change their ways. Someone being a dick don't need a new term. Someone making uncalled jokes about someone, regardless the trait they are aiming for, weight, height, hair color, it is what it is: Someone being a dick. Now you create a term for something that specific and just becomes a shield some lazy people will use for victimize themselves.
In another editorial, called "The Fudge Report", Bill Maher explained that "we shouldn't taunt people about it [about being fat], and over-eating shouldn't be singled out as the only vice - it's not, we all have something - but there's no 'smoking acceptance' or 'drunk acceptance'". It was preceded by him saying: "can fat be beautiful? That's in the eyes of the beholder. But health? No, that's science. I know this is a controversial thing to say now in today's America but being fat is a bad thing [health-wise]". I really think what he's trying to attack is NOT fat people, but rather the culture that makes it harder and harder to be able to educate people that being overweight is really - and very significantly - bad for your health. As he mentioned, smoking of drinking is also very bad for your health, but the difference is that there is no culture of a taboo against saying that smoking/drinking can seriously damage your health, while there is a substantial taboo against saying that being overweight can seriously damage your health. So, again, the focus is not on fat people, but on people (whether they're fat or lean) who try to make it forbidden to say that being overweight is a major health problem.
So..... we'll get around to every other problem after we've solved the 2 that have been universally present since the species emerged? I guess we'll get around to all that baby cancer after we take care of teh wars and the starving, right? Apparenlty it's cake. Giving anything else a piece of attention takes away from the cake as a whole. Cause we can't do two things. You know, it would be more intellectually honest, I could respect you more if you just say "I don't want to lose weight, because I don't want ti." At least it's honest, rather than making up bullshit excuses. Oh, wait. Is saying "cake" "fat-shaming"?
I thought Bill was going to point out the bipartisan MIC or bipartisan voodoo economics. You know, the major economic issues of our time. I thought too much of Bill (who apparently has no problem with globalization either).
I remember when I told a woman she needed to lose weight (she was over 300 pounds), and she quipped from the Fat Acceptance handbook, "don't body shame me, you'll give me an eating disorder." So, I chimed back, "woman, you already HAVE an eating disorder."
There are serious metabolic and depressive aspects to severe obesity. You don't shame someone who is dealing with a chronic illness, and obesity should be treated like, both medically and generally, as a disease or illness. Think about it.
Paul Wagner Its not a chronic disease, you dont live with obesity your whole life if you diet and exercise. People come up with every excuse to not have to change, even with thier health at stake
Reno Vasquez, spoken in true ignorance. Indeed, obesity is a chronic disease...it's an addiction to eating, similar to an addiction to alcohol, drugs, gambling, etc. Just telling someone to diet and exercise never works...if it did, we'd all be thin. In fact, kicking a food addiction is the most difficult addiction there is to beat...because you can't go cold turkey and just stop eating, and temptation is EVERYWHERE. Ever go to work and have someone shove a vodka and tonic into your hands? How about a syringe full of heroin? Of course not...but hardly a day goes by in a modern office setting where someone isn't going around handing out cake or some other sugar-laden thing and making you feel like some kind of pariah if you don't join in. Those who struggle with this addiction get very little support in our society, as obviously evidenced by your short-sighted comment.
Yeah!! Lets stop "shaming" people by no longer calling them overweight and recommending healthy diets. We should also stop "shaming" alcoholics by never having interventions, recommending rehab, and giving them AA flyers. I mean, the best way to solve a problem is by ignoring it.
Food is more a problem in the USA... Highly subsidized industry has High Fructose corn syrup in everything. Mixed with toxic GMO's and Glyphosate and a glass of lead contaminated water to wash it all down... Add a flood of Acetaminophen in Children's and Adult Tylenol that is known to kill the empathy center in your brain.. Cut Trillions out of the education system since Nixon... And you get the Average fat, stupid, rage induced fearful american that doesn't care about the well being of another human being a few hundred miles across a make believe line, that is also cool with dropping 26,000 bombs on brown people in a year.
Golly. The assault on free speech is appalling. The cretinous notion of 'fat shaming' is appalling. The US president attacking the press is appalling. Universities banning speakers is appalling. Bugger, we must change this. "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I am willing to give my life for your being able to say it." Come on chaps, some things must not change, the latter principle being one of them.
Fat shaming killed my wife. She was overweight. She knew it. It was a constant battle. But she was having serious pain and we got her to go to the doctor. He dismissed her and told her all her problems would go away if she lost weight. Turns out the pain was cancer. It went undetected because after this humiliating experience, she wouldn't go to another doctor until the pain was crippling. Then it was too late. Encouraging people to eat better is fine. Assuming you know what a person's story is just by looking at them is stupid
Chris OGuinn I'm sorry for your loss and you are absolutely right... a friend of mine gained 60 pounds after her father decided to tell her he had a mistress and a child outside his marriage with her mother and asked my friend to keep his secret...
I have been lucky to meet such doctor only once... I lost weight, but due to such crippling depression that I almost died. Now I prefer to be happy. But I'm a guy. For women, it is much worse. People are far more rude with them. Awful!
I work in the healthcare field. What happened to your wife shouldn't have happened, but I will say, that people who are obese usually have health problems that are caused by their obesity. If they lost weight, their problems would go away in most cases, but most obese people do nothing about it.
Obesity is a problem we don't understand. Old guys like Bill think it's as simple as willpower and blames fat people for overeating...truth is, many grossly obese people starve themselves, and all it does is maintain their weight. Dieting doesn't work. Pills don't work. Gastric bands and bypass can work, but at cost and risk. Our best guess today is that obesity is linked to imbalances in gut microbes caused by things like antibiotics, but this is still only a guess. Until we understand why losing weight is so difficult for many to most, we should refrain from moral judgement, or expressing physical disgust. Shaming fat people *does not help* them to become less fat, it just makes them despise themselves even more than they already do.
lynxminx4 : If gastric bands work they ate too many calories before. I am working and eating with a couple of obese people and we have a kitchen with stove, oven and microwave in the company: let me tell you I know the origin of their bad gut microbes.....
Hi Chelsea! I don't care what you find funny. Ever. And Berkeley & college kids are pathetic when they try to keep free speech out of the school they attend.
And hard to believe that Bill doesn't like the fact that the Libertarian Right and the Progressive Left are the most bipartisan on Legalizing Marijuana.
Rule 1 for being a guest on Real Time, when Bill is doing his final editorial to camera, NEVER interrupt him, you will regret it if you push it too far.
@@alyciagoode4115 Really. He could’ve handled that better.
I love how he's as hard on the Regressive Left as he is on Trumpsters!
Bill absolutely loves bringing up the orange orangutan thing about Trump since he won that case. Always cracks me up.
Orange Sphincter! 🍊
If I were Bill, I'd put that incident on my tombstone.
@Simulation algorithm John Oliver and Bill Maher are the reason I have HBO MAX
@Simulation algorithm, when the Drumpf family immigrated here they legally changed it to Trump.
So Donald Trump’s real last name is Trump. He was born Donald Trump and not Donald Drumpf.
You're the best, Bill! And once again, you've hit the nail on head dozens of times with this episode!
Why do I love Bill so much? Because he is as nakedly honest as I am...it is just we are so, so tired of the BS
so bold
Steve Bannon has NO room to comment on anyone's appearance.
There is nothing wrong with encouraging healthy eating habits. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging that obesity is unhealthy and that a lot of people suffer from this problem. That said, this is how I always interpreted body positivity :
Don't be an asshole. Just because someone is overweight, that doesn't mean they have to curl up in a ball and fixate on their self loathing. You can love yourself but strive to do better. You'll probably never achieve self acceptance if you wait for perfection. That applies to every one
Agreed! Wish someone would explain to Bill that there is substantial evidence that obesity isn't the fault of the victim.
I mean fuck, the chemical used in most plastics actually targets the top gene associated with type-2 diabetes. medium.com/@InfinoMe/diabetes-time-to-resort-to-plastic-measures-500cdf1fe528
With obesity, its been shown over the last decade that a sizeable fraction (~30%) have antibodies for a virus that has been repeatedly shown to make lab animals fat regardless of their food intake : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infectobesity
This isn't "enabling" - what is "enabling" the obesity epidemic to continue is the continuous assumptions that people make about it. For someone as pro-science as Maher, I'm disappointed.
@adam brown that's just one of many causes for obesity. Other causes include bacterial infections of the intestines, exposure to common chemicals like BPA, and other environmental exposures.
medium.com/@InfinoMe/diabetes-time-to-resort-to-plastic-measures-500cdf1fe528
cosmo Actual serious question here - if obesity isn't the fault of the obese person then why does America have an obesity problem that far outstrips that of basically every other nation? Not to mention a rapid increase in obesity over the last 30 years.
You should read the link I posted. medium.com/@InfinoMe/diabetes-time-to-resort-to-plastic-measures-500cdf1fe528
This is informative as well : ua-cam.com/video/_7RfgJhvyow/v-deo.html
What I don't like I people shaming others as if they aren't very very aware of their unhealthy habits. A lot of people struggle with getting healthy and telling them they need to get healthy is like it's own version of mansplaining.
That picture with Trump and the orangutan cracks me up every time.
its funny i agree
It's degrading, for the orangutan.
That Hillary laugh joke got me rofl
He can bring up that orangutan joke as many times as he wants, I'll never not tear up laughing at it, the side-by-side pic is scarily on-point :)
Anti-intellectualism can infect anything.
You literally just proved his point and you dont even know it. You are hopelessly stupid.
@Hollowhammer so how is your tax return in contrast to the obama years?
Watched it x3 and I still almost fall over when he says "a lot of people were saying it, a lot of people were saying it", can't stop laughing
Really wish your episodes were organized into play lists so I can watch it in order
I've been a healthy weight and overweight in my life. It has always been clear to me that the first stage of change is acceptance. Whether that is seeing bad photos of yourself or others mentioning the weight you are putting on. The only scenario in which those are bad things is if you put up your defenses, live in denial and think of yourself as the victim. What you should be doing is figuring out why you put on weight, if it bothers you enough to lose it, and actually doing something real to change it.
It's one thing if you're fat and don't want to change. That's your choice. If someone calls you fat you can say, "yeah I know. I'm ok with it" and let it go. If it bothers you, you are the one who needs to fix it. Find me more than one good positive of being fat? Other than food is tasty.
far right and far left share similar populist ideas, but for the most part populism doesn't offer real solutions.
I guess I see people's weight problems like other people's addictions: alcoholism, smoking, gambling, etc. It's just that those people can hide their problems while the fat person will always be visible. I think for some obese people their medical problem isn't necessarily physical, but psychological. Sometimes people eat to ease anxiety or depression because it releases those "feel good" chemicals inside their brains, sometimes people over eat because they've been abused or are lonely and it makes them feel "full" - you never really know why a person has become fat (or allowed themselves to become fat) until you get to know them. (and of course, some people just love food.) Personally, when my mother started pointing out that I needed to lose weight, I became fixated on my body, was increasingly unhappy, and didn't lose any weight. After I stopped obsessing about it and just focused on eating better (more fresh food, smaller portions, tiny amounts of sweets to satisfy my cravings) the weight melted off.
Beautifully put!
Nice comment but I would add that sometimes it's not an overeating problem. I've known plenty of people who eat less than me and much more veggies but outweigh me by alot.
I am fat and Bill is right.
Martti Hänninen I thought I was the only fat person laughing and agreeing with him
Martti Hänninen #MeToo
I'm fat and I loved his fat jokes. The only thing I don't like about fat jokes is the lack of originality or wit.
#metoo however I can still run at 340lbs
lmao just stop eating
"Better Dead Than Ted" 😂 when the hat actually said "Better Ted Than Dead"
Insulting someone who is overweight is just fine. Go ahead and call them "Chris Christie".
"I'm working now. STFU, everybody."
LoL. Damn. I gotta work that into a conversation at some point. That needs to be a ring tone.
I'm sorry ... I'm gonna catch shit for this, but these comments are irrational. Observing that someone is obese and not objectively beautiful is NOT hate speech. Hate speech is degreding or discriminatory speech which seeks to deny rights to an individual or group. Hate speech occurs against racial minorities and homosexuals for example. Calling someone fat is mean, but it is not "hate speech". Also, being black or gay is NOT a choice, being overweight is. Sure, there are hormonal imbalances and even mental illness which could explain why some people overeat or dont excersise for lack of energy and therefore gain a few unsightly lbs. But let me be clear.... NO ONE IS HUNDREDS OF POUNDS OVERWEIGHT BECAUSE OF A MEDICAL ISSUE. EATING TOO MUCH FOOD AND HAVING A SEDINTARY LIFESTYLE IS WHAT MAKES PEOPLE OBESE. #logic
"NO ONE IS HUNDREDS OF POUNDS OVERWEIGHT BECAUSE OF A MEDICAL ISSUE"? You're wrong. Food addiction is clearly a medical issue...as much so as addiction to alcohol or drugs, depression, bipolar disorder, or schizophrenia. In fact, food addiction is the most difficult type of addiction to conquer because it's impossible to go cold turkey from eating, and temptations are EVERYWHERE. Whether or not comments such as Bill's fit someone's narrow definition for "hate speech" is irrelevant...it's douche-bag speech that sounds like something our idiot president would say. Plus, it's a lazy excuse for program content...there is a plethora of great topics out there to aim his mockery at...this was a cheap shot.
Last Guy Minn I included mental illness in my explication. Thanks for reiterating my point.
August Bisson Yes, people are often persecuted and criticized for many of those things. It's called the pressure of conformity. I would NEVER encourage or support someone's choice to call another human being fat, skinny, ugly, etc. But that doesn't mean that we should glorify gluttony and praise all body types as beautiful. Sorry for my lack of clarification. I'm trying to agree with Bill's point that we shouldn't feel pressure to support "beauty in any size" PC nonsense. If someone is obese and happy, good for them, but I don't have to tell them they're beautiful and I shouldn't be ridiculed for electing not to do so. Obesity is a health or mental health issue and should be treated as you suggested, with kindness, support, and medical attention, but NOT praise.
C M "obecjtively beautiful" is not a thing
Hilary has the most diabolical fake laugh. LMAO.
this is why i like bill, he is a liberal but also rational
I have a Joker ringtone on my phone and it sounds less creepy then that clip of Hilary Clinton laughing.
Congrats, Bill- you and Trump both alienated/offended half your audience this week. What counts most is compassion.
I'll take truth with a touch of compassion. Straight compassion doesn't help. I think you missed Bill's points.
Thank you Bill for mentioning this topic.
I just realized this while watching....I miss Sean Spicer....he kept things comical AF!
Wow, you're really spot on on this one
"Supine on a gurney" is probably what you meant. Prone means to lie face down. Supine means to recline or be laid on one's back.
Dan Boyle prone is laying flat on back or stomach.
@@stevemygoodman7809 Word origin (Latin 1500's) from pronus meaning bent forward; lying face down.
You Tell 'em Bill
I've never supported rescinding speakers at my school (While I was there we had Obama, Cheney, Ron Paul, among others) but I totally understand people who don't want their loan money to be going to pay for speeches from people they wouldn't choose to support. At a private University that's not censoring free speech, that's the free market. These people are selling their opinions and some people don't want to buy.
The orangutan thing will never get old! :D
Omg, I can't amen on the free speech thing enough!
The funniest line was when Bill told Amy Holmes to "shut the fuck up". Newsom was thinking the same thing while she was interrupting him.
oh jeez I'm so sick of people acting like having someone feel comfortable in their own body is the same as endorsing obesity
Come on Bill!!!! I am a big supporter of you my friend!!!! I have have obese friends, and i'm about 50 lbs overweight myself (the doctors tell me).........and to talk shit about anyone who is overweight, whether it be because they are eating too much, or have a health condition, just ain't right!
There is a world of difference between high school bullies saying "Haha, you're a fatass." and a scientist saying "My study has concluded that there is a strong correlation between obesity and heart disease." SJWs need to understand that merely pointing out the health risks of obesity does not mean you are on some secret mission to make all fat people depressed.
Chelsea Clinton is on the left? News to me
This is why I love bill maher
Oliver Stone is a fan of Putin? What's the source on this?
Mom was a tough love nurse. Jesus I'm glad she's dead
And it's not easy taking care of heavy people when they are sick
Hmm.. this idea could have more comic resonance with more viewers if the underlying, systemic issue was addressed rather than a more vapid, surface-level critique: it is hard to deny that obesity is largely bolstered by the fact that Western capitalist culture has made shitty, unhealthy food more affordable. Healthier, organic food, which can largely contribute to reduction in obesity (this also depends on a persons lifestyle, duh) is not affordable for the mass populace. This obviously has much to do with wage stagnation and other problems that are clearly too much to address in a short segment. But rather than a vapid critique of the fact that a lot of people are fat, why not look at why? I understand comedy often offends some audiences as it may illuminate societal problems or ills that many are uncomfortable in acknowledging. But look on a deeper level here and you will find yourself with a larger audience, more support, and likely, better comedic material as a whole. This surface-level shit is really just cheap shots. There is a clear correlation between obesity and poverty. There is much academic literature to explain this. So why not use it to your advantage and serve as a force for good in making people recognize the underlying societal problems that cause issues like this? Just a thought.
Mal c.H Hands down the best comment I've seen all night.
Renlys Other Lover oh yikes, thanks a bunch! I was expecting to receive comments about how I'm such a dumb bitch, but I'm sure I'll receive an influx of those soon too! Much appreciated dear.
Mal c.H that is true, but Bill attacking the people like Sarah Palin actively try to discourage healthy eating is also a problem. I think of it another way: when the demand for healthy eating becomes greater than the supply, if people actively demand for healthy foods then the market will have to adjust. Right now the market doesn't see the need for healthy eating because people are not actively demanding it. I don't believe that healthy eating is inheritedly unprofitable, the rest of the world certainly doesn't agree with that. If we keep enabling people by telling them that their bad eating habits are okay, corporations will continue to exploit that and continue to make bad food. Change have to come from the people themselves as well, the people have to show interest in healthy eating, and the corporations have to change their products.
Mal c.H He spends an average of five minutes on these topics, there's no time for an in depth analysis for Christ's sake. You sound insufferable
Frank Booth that's why I stated In my comment that depending on what is addressed and how it is approached, it's too much for a short segment. I guess you didn't read that part or chose to ignore it? Insufferable indeed
Bipartisanship happens a lot more in the center - like both sides being for the Iraq War, both sides being for the Wall Street bailout, both sides approving insane increased levels of defense spending every year, both sides agreed on the Patriot Act, etc.
Hey bill, um people are supine on a gurney not prone. If you're gonna make fun of people at least get the facts right.
Most of Bill's show was prone this week...face-down and humor-free.
I'm fat and I know I only have myself to blame. If someone wants to make jokes about it, I just shrug it off like a mature human being. Being offended it's not a right, freedom of speech is. To be honest, the only complain I ever give is the lack of originality of the jokes I hear, and when someone comes with a good one, I even laugh.
Fat shaming isn't a joke I find funny ever. It's not even a joke. It's bullying. You don't need to pretend everyone is beautiful, or even healthy, to not engage in fat shaming. You aren't showing concern or helping by fat shaming. They have enough problems; they don't need your unkindness as well. Shaming should be reserved for actions which transgress on proper social or interpersonal conduct. Yeah, obesity is a problem, but bullying is not the solution.
Bill is one of the only public figures with clear eyesight and commonsense!
Hey Bill, if you're so worried about Coulter (not) being banned from speaking at Berkeley (just to be clear, she wasn't banned), why not invite her back on your show? You've done it before. Help a sister out if her career has been so irreparably damaged. Both you, and Berkeley, have the right to book whoever you want for whatever reason.
Oh, and there is a middle ground between fat shaming and Shamu; it's called "you do you." Weren't you the one ranting about a year ago or so about how we need to stop railing about the dangers of football because people have a right to live their lives the way they choose, even if it causes brain damage? Answer: yes, you were. So why is a person who chooses to eat a diet that makes them fat any different than a guy who chooses to get brain damage playing football? They're both choices that are self-destructive, but give enjoyment to those involved, so what's the difference? Is it, perhaps, because you, personally, find the former disgusting and the other entertaining? If so, no one has to cater to your personal preferences. By your own admission.
Just my two cents... or rather, my reminder to you of your two cents.
Happy holidays bill
Nobody has the right to judge people about their weight, but, nobody has the right to judge people because they don't feel attracted to fat people.
Totalitarian Touretts!! LOL
I'm not obese and I was never obese, but there are many reasons why people get that way. I love Bill Maher, but totally disagree with him in this subject. It is true that a lot of people are obese because they can't control themselves, however, many people suffers with obesity for other more serious reasons, such as depression, thyroid and hormonal problems, etc. Please, don't say things like this because you can hurt so many people that have a real difficult time losing weight.
Thanks. Spot on!
With all the issues you could use your time to talk about you choose to make fun of people with obesity. Obesity is not a joke, it's a disease, the causes are complex and the solutions are as well. Would you make fun of someone with cancer, diabetes or any other disease. Why is it that society seems to think that obesity is fair game? It's not OK and not funny. Suggestion: new writers and if that was all you... retire.
Our society has stigmatized mental/emotional illness for a long time. No empathy, no compassion. No evolution whatsoever.
I was once watching My 600lb life, and that show truly shows how mental disease can overtake someone's life. The problem is people tend to think that others would react to situations in the same way as them, when not everyone has had the same life experiences.
Spot on Bill!!!
Whoa. That was such a weak segment. If you cater to liberals (myself included), don't expect them to laugh at this. You had to basically pull the laughter and applause from people at every punchline.
BRB adding "Totalitarian Tourette's" to my list of Trump nicknames
It's tough Love kids I'm a nurse I should know I'm having trouble my self dropping some lbs .
Ok, people need to double check their eyes. If you see a person who eats truckloads of sweets, has a weight problem that will result in him/her having health problems, how on earth is your "kindness" helping them actually?
There is a thing as being "to kind".
Free speech means freedom from being punished by the law. It doesn't mean freedom from being criticized by regular people.
Or freedom to show your face at a neo-Nazi rally and think you're free from consequences.
It's not about critique. There have been countless examples of people not being enabled to speak at all. Milo, Coultier, Bill Maher had a petition against him from speaking at a university. Criticize all you want, but let them speak!
Is it that simple. Maybe the attitude is the problem. The self righteous, whiney left that can't make rational decisions anymore because someone needs to validate their feelings.
Well the health care field makes a sh*t ton of money off of Unhealthy obesity so why would they want to prevent their customers from coming as much. God forbid they make less money off health conditions that can be prevented with life long food habit changes and exercise. And I am not talking about people who eat healthy and exercise but have a genetic structure of being heavier set body type because my little sister is 5'5 and around 190lbs but her cholesterol is lower than mine. That is just fat under the skin what we have to be worried about is fat on the organs and even skinny people can have that with poor eating habits.
Bill, I watch you every week and I will continue to do so. You are so educated and provide such insight on so many topics; however, you totally blew it this week with your comments regarding fat-shaming. I've been a nurse for 24 years and at age 52, I've been affected by obesity for as long as I can remember. I was the largest kid in my class the first day of first grade. What should have been one of the best days ever is instead forever burned in my memory as the day I was nicknamed "chub chub." That name haunted me for all 12 years of school. I went on countless diets, Weight Watcher's, grapefruit diet, on and on all throughout high school. As an adult, I continued to gain weight, had two pregnancies and gained more weight. In 2001 I was able to have gastric bypass surgery and as a result for the first time in my adult life, I was at a healthy weight. A weight at which my obesity related health conditions were all resolved. However, not everyone has access to that level of treatment. Not everyone who has access to treatment (insurance coverage) is able to tolerate the treatment. Some people have more resistant forms of obesity requiring multiple forms of treatment (similar to diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease). Just in case you missed the little tidbit from the American Medical Association in 2013, obesity is a disease process. There are multiple studies showing fat-shaming does NOT incite weight loss, instead it predisposes the individual to additional weight gain.
Bill, I implore you, please become more educated on this topic. Potential guests for your show: Joe Nadglowski, President and CEO of the Obesity Action Coalition; Stacy Brethauer, MD, FACS, FASMBS, President American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery; or me - Registered Nurse, Certified Bariatric Nurse, President Elect of Integrated Health American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery and an individual affected by obesity who has worked with thousands of others affected by this chronic disease.
He is not saying fat shaming is something false he is talking about obesity and healty feeding habits should not be a taboo
It is interesting when a problem happens from both sides of the political spectrum (although usually, each side has its own set of reasons).
Honestly, this was a total flop. I was expecting something more in-depth from the title, not whatever the hell point he's trying to make here. Bipartisanship can sometimes be bad because it can deliver poor results that don't accurately solve the problem at hand. When someone says 2+2=6 and another says 2+2=4, it doesn't mean 5 is the right answer. But Bill didn't touch on that. This was some surface level, incoherent bs.
Another thing that Bill Maher gets it
I know it's hard to hear another liberal criticize us liberals, but it's important to take the criticism in stride and learn from it in order to better our political movement as a whole
It's also important for liberals to criticize other liberals
Bill isn't a real liberal ! He is a Bigot
Having just moved to Indiana I think the problem is a little more complicated than this when it comes to obesity. Every type of meat is half the cost it is in California and almost every type of vegetable costs at least 50% more. Minimum wage here is $7.25/hr, people just can't afford to buy healthy food most of the time.
I wish I could get through Bill's thick skull on the "fat" issue... The problem with obesity is not that people are accepted at any size, but is the added sugar in just about any food there is. Constant criticism on what and how people eat or look doesn't make any good, only the opposite. I thought he should get that, the guy who oppose the "war on drugs "...
Load of rubbish really. You don't have to eat sugary foods and if you do, you can exercise regularly.
Retrovirus
Come on! Have some respect.
Those people can't choose what to eat & what not.
They were held hostage by the foods & threatened to be killed instantly if they didn't ate them.
"added sugar in just about any food there is" . Then stop eating processed food and switch to vegetables
He is a 100% right!
I agree with Bill's politics, but get off the health issues. Smoking is bad for your lungs, albeit tobacco or pot. Get over yourself.
if he wanna smoke, let him smoke. I wanna eat, let me eat. But neither of us should tell that it is healthy, that's all.
And eating Mcdonalds is absolutely terrible for your health yet every American has eaten that or something similar all the time.
Holy shit actually made it through 5 minutes and 30 seconds of Bill Maher. Strangely enough, fucking agreed. First display of intelligence as it should reflect in the mind of every intelligent American.
THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS FIRST FOR A REASON.
Bill has gone from one of the funniest comedians in the world to just a bitter pissed off talk show host.
You can tell people are terrified to laugh.
The problem with complain about discouraging 'Fat Shamming' is there is a kernel if truth of a problem there. Obesed is a problem, but Fat shamming includes shamming the bigger body type that AREN'T Fat but are "supermodel thin" either.
Gerald Grenier what's important to remember is that fat people are completely aware of their body. They struggle with it everyday
AvgJane19 But its also important to know that being fat isnt some permanent feature you have to live with. you can change being fat by eating healthy and exercise, its not like race or gender where those are things you HAVE to live with.
AvgJane19 You still promote an unhealthy life-style by saying that they are perfect the way they are. Back when I wad obese, I wanted this to be true, yet I only felt better after losing my excess pounds.
Fat shaming often is cruel, the opposite isn't the solution either, though.
This is just Bill and his staff taking the lazy way out writing jokes. Fat jokes stopped being funny for anyone of moderate intelligence in about the 4th grade. Besides, if you actually care about the problem of obesity and its negative health effects, making those struggling with the problem feel like shit about themselves is the least effective way to go about it. Come on "Real Time" writers, you're better than this...hell, Trump's tweets write better jokes all by themselves.
Did you actually take a look at some of these ''beautiful bodies''? They are far from supermodel. They are far from normal. They're fat is what they are. A lot of these ''beautiful bodies'' are female and they are encouraged to stay on this course because they are just as beautiful as they will be thin. Then they wonder, why they are single or why men don't want to date them. It's not only a health issue, but a social issue, that later cause mental health issues. If you think that Amy Schumer or Ashley Graham are ''normal weight'', then you're part of the problem. They're not normal weight. Salma Hayek or Sofia Vergara are bigger types of bodies. Those previous ones aren't normal. They're fat.
#TogetherEvery1AchievesMore #TEAM
I think Maher has a problem with fatness or fat people. It's something I've taken note of just here and there. Thought I'd mention it and see if anyone else has noticed it. I don't really have any issue with 99% of what he had to say in his monologue above with the exception of the fact that there is nothing wrong with people learning to love the body they are in. You should likewise learn to take care of that body. However, not everyone is made equal and I've known several people who live an incredibly active lifestyle who are still very large and have been for 10-15 yrs. You shouldn't feel shame to be who you are. And societally speaking, we also have a depression issue which is compounded when you have people who hate everything about themselves. This doesn't help them become motivated to get up and move around as depression acts on the mind to make you feel as if you have no will or ability to move when it gets severe enough. I'm not sure if Maher understands all these complexities and others. But I know that with the mental health crisis we have in this country, we shouldn't be discouraging anything that ENCOURAGES them to feel GOOD about themselves!!
"several people who live an incredibly active lifestyle who are still very large and have been for 10-15 yrs". thats because they consume too many calories. no exercise can fix a bad diet
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These colors don't Run because these colors can't Run. That is a sick burn.
Free speech is on attack from both sides... But not equally.
The president shouting the equivalent of 'Luegenpresse' is not equivalent to idiots on a college campus.
@Keith Hatch
There you go, proving OP's point.
Freedom does smell like bacon.
There are people with actually health problems which makes them fight to lose weight while there is big - no pun intended - and loud group just screaming every time someone asks or suggest they change their ways.
Someone being a dick don't need a new term. Someone making uncalled jokes about someone, regardless the trait they are aiming for, weight, height, hair color, it is what it is: Someone being a dick. Now you create a term for something that specific and just becomes a shield some lazy people will use for victimize themselves.
In another editorial, called "The Fudge Report", Bill Maher explained that "we shouldn't taunt people about it [about being fat], and over-eating shouldn't be singled out as the only vice - it's not, we all have something - but there's no 'smoking acceptance' or 'drunk acceptance'". It was preceded by him saying: "can fat be beautiful? That's in the eyes of the beholder. But health? No, that's science. I know this is a controversial thing to say now in today's America but being fat is a bad thing [health-wise]".
I really think what he's trying to attack is NOT fat people, but rather the culture that makes it harder and harder to be able to educate people that being overweight is really - and very significantly - bad for your health. As he mentioned, smoking of drinking is also very bad for your health, but the difference is that there is no culture of a taboo against saying that smoking/drinking can seriously damage your health, while there is a substantial taboo against saying that being overweight can seriously damage your health. So, again, the focus is not on fat people, but on people (whether they're fat or lean) who try to make it forbidden to say that being overweight is a major health problem.
"Prone" means face down. Face up is "supine."
[planet dying, wars happening, children starving, Nazis marching]
Bill "but what about the fatties?"
there are always wars happening as long as there are humans on this planet
So..... we'll get around to every other problem after we've solved the 2 that have been universally present since the species emerged?
I guess we'll get around to all that baby cancer after we take care of teh wars and the starving, right?
Apparenlty it's cake. Giving anything else a piece of attention takes away from the cake as a whole. Cause we can't do two things.
You know, it would be more intellectually honest, I could respect you more if you just say "I don't want to lose weight, because I don't want ti." At least it's honest, rather than making up bullshit excuses.
Oh, wait. Is saying "cake" "fat-shaming"?
It's not your monologue, Penn. Quit leaning into Bill's shot.
I thought Bill was going to point out the bipartisan MIC or bipartisan voodoo economics. You know, the major economic issues of our time.
I thought too much of Bill (who apparently has no problem with globalization either).
3:12 Just putting this moment here to save for later
I remember when I told a woman she needed to lose weight (she was over 300 pounds), and she quipped from the Fat Acceptance handbook, "don't body shame me, you'll give me an eating disorder." So, I chimed back, "woman, you already HAVE an eating disorder."
Thank you for your service to healthcare 👍🏼😄
Wow the comment were Bill alluded to supporting deals like NAFTA shows how much of a neo-liberal Corporatist he has become.
There are serious metabolic and depressive aspects to severe obesity. You don't shame someone who is dealing with a chronic illness, and obesity should be treated like, both medically and generally, as a disease or illness. Think about it.
Paul Wagner Its not a chronic disease, you dont live with obesity your whole life if you diet and exercise. People come up with every excuse to not have to change, even with thier health at stake
Reno Vasquez, spoken in true ignorance. Indeed, obesity is a chronic disease...it's an addiction to eating, similar to an addiction to alcohol, drugs, gambling, etc. Just telling someone to diet and exercise never works...if it did, we'd all be thin. In fact, kicking a food addiction is the most difficult addiction there is to beat...because you can't go cold turkey and just stop eating, and temptation is EVERYWHERE. Ever go to work and have someone shove a vodka and tonic into your hands? How about a syringe full of heroin? Of course not...but hardly a day goes by in a modern office setting where someone isn't going around handing out cake or some other sugar-laden thing and making you feel like some kind of pariah if you don't join in. Those who struggle with this addiction get very little support in our society, as obviously evidenced by your short-sighted comment.
Yeah!! Lets stop "shaming" people by no longer calling them overweight and recommending healthy diets. We should also stop "shaming" alcoholics by never having interventions, recommending rehab, and giving them AA flyers. I mean, the best way to solve a problem is by ignoring it.
Food is more a problem in the USA... Highly subsidized industry has High Fructose corn syrup in everything. Mixed with toxic GMO's and Glyphosate and a glass of lead contaminated water to wash it all down... Add a flood of Acetaminophen in Children's and Adult Tylenol that is known to kill the empathy center in your brain.. Cut Trillions out of the education system since Nixon... And you get the Average fat, stupid, rage induced fearful american that doesn't care about the well being of another human being a few hundred miles across a make believe line, that is also cool with dropping 26,000 bombs on brown people in a year.
Last Guy Minn exactly, that’s why we pour alcoholics a nice tall scotch and tell them that they shouldn’t worry about society’s shaming.
Golly. The assault on free speech is appalling. The cretinous notion of 'fat shaming' is appalling. The US president attacking the press is appalling. Universities banning speakers is appalling. Bugger, we must change this. "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I am willing to give my life for your being able to say it." Come on chaps, some things must not change, the latter principle being one of them.
Fat shaming killed my wife. She was overweight. She knew it. It was a constant battle. But she was having serious pain and we got her to go to the doctor. He dismissed her and told her all her problems would go away if she lost weight.
Turns out the pain was cancer. It went undetected because after this humiliating experience, she wouldn't go to another doctor until the pain was crippling. Then it was too late.
Encouraging people to eat better is fine. Assuming you know what a person's story is just by looking at them is stupid
Chris OGuinn I'm sorry for your loss and you are absolutely right... a friend of mine gained 60 pounds after her father decided to tell her he had a mistress and a child outside his marriage with her mother and asked my friend to keep his secret...
Nothing to do with her being fat?
Yet being fat has increased risks several forms of cancer.
I have been lucky to meet such doctor only once... I lost weight, but due to such crippling depression that I almost died. Now I prefer to be happy.
But I'm a guy. For women, it is much worse. People are far more rude with them. Awful!
That's not fat shaming that's just being a shitty doctor.
I work in the healthcare field. What happened to your wife shouldn't have happened, but I will say, that people who are obese usually have health problems that are caused by their obesity. If they lost weight, their problems would go away in most cases, but most obese people do nothing about it.
I love Bill's catch phrase "Ah, Shut the Fuck Up"
I guess this must only be me, but I thought he had some really good points on both sides on this one. Good on ya Bill.
As I've read it on a bumper sticker, "How this for bipartisanship: I'll hug your elephant if you kiss my ass."
Obesity is a problem we don't understand. Old guys like Bill think it's as simple as willpower and blames fat people for overeating...truth is, many grossly obese people starve themselves, and all it does is maintain their weight. Dieting doesn't work. Pills don't work. Gastric bands and bypass can work, but at cost and risk. Our best guess today is that obesity is linked to imbalances in gut microbes caused by things like antibiotics, but this is still only a guess.
Until we understand why losing weight is so difficult for many to most, we should refrain from moral judgement, or expressing physical disgust. Shaming fat people *does not help* them to become less fat, it just makes them despise themselves even more than they already do.
lynxminx4 : If gastric bands work they ate too many calories before.
I am working and eating with a couple of obese people and we have a kitchen with stove, oven and microwave in the company: let me tell you I know the origin of their bad gut microbes.....
that's simply not true. obese people lose weight in a calorie deficit
it is linked with mental conditions IMO.
Being fat is a choice.
"That's like the Catholic Church enforcing an age of consent!" 😂😂😂 ROFL
Hillary already had two terms as co-President.
Hi Chelsea! I don't care what you find funny. Ever.
And Berkeley & college kids are pathetic when they try to keep free speech out of the school they attend.
Free speech means freedom from being punished, not freedom from being criticized or disagreed with.
Criticize or disagree but cancel speakers because you disagree with them? No.
"Free speech means freedom from being punished".
Lol are you fucking high or something?
I find myself agreeing with Bill Maher more and more these days.
It's a shame that Hillary gave us Trump.
And hard to believe that Bill doesn't like the fact that the Libertarian Right and the Progressive Left are the most bipartisan on Legalizing Marijuana.