I had literally never heard of these people or this situation and I’m only less than half way through but I’m fucking flabbergasted, heartbroken for Liv, and angry already
Degrees here in US: Associate degree: 2 years Bachelor's degree : 4 to 5 years (if you do this, you can skip Associate) Masters: 2 to 3 years ( you must complete Bachelors degree first) PHD / Doctorate: 4 to 8 years ( you must complete all previous levels first) Total: 2 to 16 years of college depending on what level degree you need for your profession
Plus, athletes can be "red shirt" freshmen to ease the transition to college. They don't play the first year but are on the team. That extends a Bachelor's degree to a 5-year process.
college athletes who were competing in 2020 also received an additional year of NCAA eligibility, so most of them were in college for 5 years (or more). in addition to redshirts and transfer years and other stuff that makes it longer
Not to mention people (like myself) can get more than 1 bachelors (equivalent to masters in terms of time but work and prestige is a little less. My example being myself. I got a traditional art degree for 4 years (even while switching majors) took a year off for work experience. Then went 3 years for an animation degree to specialize my skills more. ) Just my own experience 😅
USA considers college as Tertiary education, where as majority of the rest of the world sees college generally as highschool. ages 13/14-18/19 then we go to university to fo BA's etc etc Which is why we find it weird because to us college means teenagers =p
LMAO at the Jaguars in Mexico, I would be more worried about what human might appear in the middle of the night and their intentions, unless they were inside their hotel complex, exploring México in the middle of the night where you have no way of calling for help is not something that we locals do, we know what can appear in the night, and its not an animal that should frighten you, its where you might end up that you were not supposed to find. That is so dangerous.
College in the states on the low end is about 2 to 4 years. But it can go longer depending on the degree you want. I've known people who completed what they wanted in the 2 to 4 year window, as well as others who were in school more than 4.
No because I already unfollowed her after the stuff with Rylee went down years ago but the fact that she's STILL got a following and still abusing women??? Disgusting. Her fans dogpiled Rylee into silence and it clearly taught her that she could get away with her behaviour!
Used to make me incredibly uncomfortamle that this really tall physically strong athlete with abuse allegations almost exclusively seemed to date much shorter smaller people that she could very easily overpower as well like yikes
How can you say you are holding yourself accountable while following it up with but I did nothing wrong, then what are you holding yourself accountable for?
100% about the reckless behavior. I had an abusive ex and he would drive extremely dangerously, speeding crazy and weaving around when he was mad, tailgating people and road raging. I would be crying begging for him to stop and he would ignore me. It’s a terrible feeling, and I still get anxious when I’m in a car and someone is speeding
This was pretty scary to see. It is amazing how many people go unchecked with their behavior until multiple people are affected by them. I hope anyone who goes through this gains the courage to run for the hills.
I have been through a mental abuse relationship... when in the relationship I tried to get help but they all was on the ex side and blames it all on me saying it was my fault.... when the ex n I split they all come up to me and apologise that they didn't see what I was talking about and was sorry that they didn't see myside
I don´t believe anything Sedona´s saying... Not even about her parents. Such a manipulator! Of course is NOT going to therapy, she doesn´t believe anything is wrong with her.
This is depressing. Don't let someone treat you poorly...if you wouldn't talk to yourself like they do, why let them talk to you like that? Buy yourself flowers and if someone is willing to let them go wilted and never replace them, question the relationship.
As someone who once was in a narcissistic abusive relationship. This hit hard. The healing these girls have to go through is going to be hard and is going to take a long time, but, they will come out stronger and wiser. Best wishes to them As for the narcissist, karma is a b*tch and it always finds you in the end.
I honestly cannot believe that someone would be this disgusting, disrespectful and neglectful to someone they're supposed to "love." I'm honestly glad that Liv is still here and that she can tell her story. I had a friend who was exactly like this and now I'm no longer friends with that person. Honestly people like that should be in jail or in an insane asylum
My heart hurts SO much for Liv! She continuously just tried to love S*dona and just kept getting torn down. I hope she heals and gets the love she deserves
Annie, I always loved your break down and super throw back disney theories vids. This reminds me of that! I love learning about things from your vids. I also liked your fashion vids too, but being plus size I watched more for entertainment. I'm glad to see these types of vids too like the Shein Temu debackle!
8:43 sorry Annalise I disagree with you on this bit about the men’s actions. They were told to leave by a woman, it was her wishes and so they did as they were told. If they stayed against a woman’s will then that could be seen as being forceful and maybe they just wanted to respect the women and their request to be left alone. The blame in this entire situation lies clearly with Sedona. Appreciate you bringing the situation to light though Annalise ❤
I do love how you chose such pretty photos of the girls you’re talking about (except one 😜 lol) so many channels choose the worst photos but you’re a girls girl 💖
Sedona has an insane ego and thinks she can get away with whatever she wants. She feels untouchable. I wish TCU would’ve kicked her off the team. She is someone who will never stop if there aren’t serious consequences.
Disgusting! I've seen SO MANY men do this...but for a woman to treat another woman this way...just awful! She clearly needs some jail time... to reflect! 😂 Be warned! I'm sure it won't stop here! 🥴 If ANY of this rings true for anyone else...RUN! Don't walk and get out! 🤦 You are worth it! ❤ Poor Liv you can tell she truly loved/probably still loves her...but sometimes that just isn't enough! 🤷🏻
She needs to be reported to her school for this behavior. It could result in her being kicked off the basketball team, as the university won’t want to be associated with her.
Most college programs in the US are 2-4 years. Undergrad is generally 4, depending on whether or not it’s accelerated. Associates degrees are typically 2 years.
Not being a morning person isn’t a red flag, like. Not everyone wants to wake up before dawn to take a flight. What is a red flag is how she blew up on her. Do not link hating mornings to being a hole.
Unfortunately it's not spoken about enough but w/w relationships have the highest rate of dv without a victim seeking help. Also be sure to cover yourself with allegedly when discussing these topics, thank you for speaking up
That’s not exactly true. The study everyone looks at is about lesbian/bi women that have been in abusive relationships. Some lesbians have been with men because they thought they were into men, or were in denial. Of course bi women like both men and women. Not saying there can’t be abusive wlw relationships, but that study is frequently cited and taken out of context.
@@Heyden_Weid the studies I'm talking about focused on same sex not just lesbians or bi womens relationships only same sex, female same sex relationships have the highest level of DV and abuse,
I totally understand this kind of abuse and to get away from a narcissistic relationship is very hard cause they are very good at manipulating, they ace when it comes to this area! I hope this video will help someone to get out before it's too late!
college can be 2 years (associates degree) but is 4 years or more usually for bachelors degrees and up; i think it’s equivalent to what yall call university! also sometimes for athletes they stretch that a bit to keep them in there longer
Don't know who these people are at all but wanted to comment about your thought that the men shouldn't have left them when Sedona demanded they leave them in the jungle. I'm sure the men, if they were mexican, were afraid of the American women potentially telling authorities or anyone else they came across that they didnt do as the women demanded. I wouldnt blame the men at all in this situation. They tried to help but some people just can't be helped or don't want help
I agree! They already tried to help ..then this giant psycho American woman is demanding they leave...they listened! 😂 Prob high tailed it as fast as they could too!! 😂
This woman Sedona sounds like my ex wife. Yes, we are lesbians. I was constantly on eggshells from her anger. Tons of emotional abuse. She almost physically hurt me. I left RIGHT BEFORE she did. Two years. I’m still not okay.
This woman Sedona sounds like my ex wife. Yes, we are lesbians. I was constantly on eggshells from her anger. Tons of emotional abuse. My ex also drove CRAZILY in my car and had an accident in it. She never said sorry, just blamed me. She almost physically hurt me. I left RIGHT BEFORE she did. Two years. I’m still not okay.
I was in college for 3 years and ran out of money lol college in the us can take a long time depending on how many credits you can afford and whether or not you have to work to support yourself while studying. And defending on the level of degree your pursuing
I understand having a height preference but I don't know man the fact Sedona goes for exclusively short women gives me bad vibes, like she's choosing them because they're easier to overpower (or for another far more sinister reason that I don't even want to think about)
As somone who had a step father who was both narcissistic and had BPD just those few mothes i was with hin before i moced to my bio-fathers house was dredful i hated it but hey not i can cetch if somones toxic
Before my DV relationship, I was that kind of person. I would say “oh I would I left. Easily…. (No. That’s not the case in most DV cases). I dated my ex for nearly five years, with the last 2 ½ being filled with physical, mental, and emotional abuse. It's so hard to leave. I really feel for Liv :(
OK so yes, Sedona IS a terrible person. Of course she is, I have standard. Poor person however has to stand that, but she did say a million times they'd broken up and Liv was not accepting a NO as an answer. Talks about cheating but they were broken up (one person refused to accept it). And you'd think "But even if you've just broken up you don't shot someone's mouth half an hour later." But Liv's obviously dead to her, so she obviously would do that?? Like at this point we are clear that Sedona has no morals
@AnnaliseWood thanks sweetie out of it now everything was my fault, could do nothing right, was every name under the sun... He had my self-worth so low I stayed, but I stayed for sweet times.... People didn't see the kind things he did at times... I got pregnant, and he told me to kill myself, and his babies breaking off the relationship was nightmare ... two months later, after our spilt, he was married and pregnant with another woman from another country who had a baby here and is now stuck here ...
You've clearly never been to college as it generally takes 4-5 years to get your undergraduate degree, and another 1-2 years for postgraduate degrees another and then at least another couple of years for a doctoral degree.
In Canada, college is 2-3 years. A university degree is 4+ years. I feel like in the US, college is used as a generic term for post secondary education.
I hate to judge a book by its cover but that Sedona girl looks disturbed. People need to more mindful about whom they allow into their lives. No matter how many social media followers they have
Some people hide their true selves until later in the relationship and it can build slowly until, all of the sudden, you realise you're in a mindfuck of a situation. Please don't victim blame.
@@shelbybaby1642 sure, we can act blind and ignore the lesson about power and influence for the sake of a shallow knee-jerk reaction claiming I am blaming the victim
To me, as one, it feels like this has some bipolar tendencies behaviour as well. There’s lots of overlap with the narcissistic tendencies as well. This is so sad! ❤
This sounds like drunk behavior. Is she an alcoholic? She needs to stop drinking. She needs AA. Sounds like she isn’t ready to admit she has a drinking problem. She is probably great when she’s sober
I had literally never heard of these people or this situation and I’m only less than half way through but I’m fucking flabbergasted, heartbroken for Liv, and angry already
It's INSANE hey!
Same here
Degrees here in US:
Associate degree: 2 years
Bachelor's degree : 4 to 5 years
(if you do this, you can skip Associate)
Masters: 2 to 3 years
( you must complete Bachelors degree first)
PHD / Doctorate: 4 to 8 years
( you must complete all previous levels first)
Total: 2 to 16 years of college depending on what level degree you need for your profession
Plus, athletes can be "red shirt" freshmen to ease the transition to college. They don't play the first year but are on the team. That extends a Bachelor's degree to a 5-year process.
college athletes who were competing in 2020 also received an additional year of NCAA eligibility, so most of them were in college for 5 years (or more). in addition to redshirts and transfer years and other stuff that makes it longer
Not to mention people (like myself) can get more than 1 bachelors (equivalent to masters in terms of time but work and prestige is a little less. My example being myself. I got a traditional art degree for 4 years (even while switching majors) took a year off for work experience. Then went 3 years for an animation degree to specialize my skills more. )
Just my own experience 😅
USA considers college as Tertiary education, where as majority of the rest of the world sees college generally as highschool. ages 13/14-18/19 then we go to university to fo BA's etc etc
Which is why we find it weird because to us college means teenagers =p
I agree with you, if you’re in an abusive relationship you are usually brainwashed to believe that you can’t survive without that person
Or that you somehow deserve to be mistreated because you (not the person abusing you) are the problem. Abusers are great at shifting blame
I honestly cannot believe that someone would be this disgusting and neglectful to someone their supposed to “love”
RIGHT! crazy.
@@AnnaliseWoodyou’re my best friend I really like you ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@AnnaliseWoodyou’re very pretty
LMAO at the Jaguars in Mexico, I would be more worried about what human might appear in the middle of the night and their intentions, unless they were inside their hotel complex, exploring México in the middle of the night where you have no way of calling for help is not something that we locals do, we know what can appear in the night, and its not an animal that should frighten you, its where you might end up that you were not supposed to find. That is so dangerous.
College in the states on the low end is about 2 to 4 years. But it can go longer depending on the degree you want. I've known people who completed what they wanted in the 2 to 4 year window, as well as others who were in school more than 4.
Ohhh there you go! I didn't know that, thank you
No because I already unfollowed her after the stuff with Rylee went down years ago but the fact that she's STILL got a following and still abusing women??? Disgusting. Her fans dogpiled Rylee into silence and it clearly taught her that she could get away with her behaviour!
Used to make me incredibly uncomfortamle that this really tall physically strong athlete with abuse allegations almost exclusively seemed to date much shorter smaller people that she could very easily overpower as well like yikes
Big agree to all of this!! I immediately believed Rylee and blocked Sedona.
How can you say you are holding yourself accountable while following it up with but I did nothing wrong, then what are you holding yourself accountable for?
100% agree
100% about the reckless behavior. I had an abusive ex and he would drive extremely dangerously, speeding crazy and weaving around when he was mad, tailgating people and road raging. I would be crying begging for him to stop and he would ignore me. It’s a terrible feeling, and I still get anxious when I’m in a car and someone is speeding
The whole incident with the ATV sounds pre planned, like she was always intending to leave her in the jungle
This 😢
This was pretty scary to see. It is amazing how many people go unchecked with their behavior until multiple people are affected by them. I hope anyone who goes through this gains the courage to run for the hills.
Sedona literally sickens me.
I have been through a mental abuse relationship... when in the relationship I tried to get help but they all was on the ex side and blames it all on me saying it was my fault.... when the ex n I split they all come up to me and apologise that they didn't see what I was talking about and was sorry that they didn't see myside
Thank you for bringing this story to us, I didn't follow them but that's absolutely vile behaviour and nore people should know to be cautious...
I don´t believe anything Sedona´s saying... Not even about her parents. Such a manipulator! Of course is NOT going to therapy, she doesn´t believe anything is wrong with her.
This is depressing. Don't let someone treat you poorly...if you wouldn't talk to yourself like they do, why let them talk to you like that? Buy yourself flowers and if someone is willing to let them go wilted and never replace them, question the relationship.
College is normally 4 years, and depending on if you're adding more degrees or going for your masters and/or doctorate It takes way longer
That look is shocking, Ive seen it in the eyes of an abusive man. They dont even look human.
As someone who once was in a narcissistic abusive relationship. This hit hard. The healing these girls have to go through is going to be hard and is going to take a long time, but, they will come out stronger and wiser. Best wishes to them As for the narcissist, karma is a b*tch and it always finds you in the end.
I honestly cannot believe that someone would be this disgusting, disrespectful and neglectful to someone they're supposed to "love." I'm honestly glad that Liv is still here and that she can tell her story. I had a friend who was exactly like this and now I'm no longer friends with that person. Honestly people like that should be in jail or in an insane asylum
My heart hurts SO much for Liv! She continuously just tried to love S*dona and just kept getting torn down. I hope she heals and gets the love she deserves
Like Swoop says "its not drama its dangerous"
Annie, I always loved your break down and super throw back disney theories vids. This reminds me of that! I love learning about things from your vids. I also liked your fashion vids too, but being plus size I watched more for entertainment. I'm glad to see these types of vids too like the Shein Temu debackle!
8:43 sorry Annalise I disagree with you on this bit about the men’s actions. They were told to leave by a woman, it was her wishes and so they did as they were told. If they stayed against a woman’s will then that could be seen as being forceful and maybe they just wanted to respect the women and their request to be left alone. The blame in this entire situation lies clearly with Sedona. Appreciate you bringing the situation to light though Annalise ❤
I do love how you chose such pretty photos of the girls you’re talking about (except one 😜 lol) so many channels choose the worst photos but you’re a girls girl 💖
Sedona has an insane ego and thinks she can get away with whatever she wants. She feels untouchable. I wish TCU would’ve kicked her off the team. She is someone who will never stop if there aren’t serious consequences.
Disgusting! I've seen SO MANY men do this...but for a woman to treat another woman this way...just awful! She clearly needs some jail time... to reflect! 😂 Be warned! I'm sure it won't stop here! 🥴 If ANY of this rings true for anyone else...RUN! Don't walk and get out! 🤦 You are worth it! ❤
Poor Liv you can tell she truly loved/probably still loves her...but sometimes that just isn't enough! 🤷🏻
6:47
Poor impulse control and heightened aggression are the common denominators.
She needs to be reported to her school for this behavior. It could result in her being kicked off the basketball team, as the university won’t want to be associated with her.
4-5 years in college in the US is actually pretty common, usually 5-8 total if you pursue a graduate degree, which some athletes do
Some US college athletes will stay a 5th year and are considered super seniors, but generally an undergrad degree is 4 years.
Most college programs in the US are 2-4 years. Undergrad is generally 4, depending on whether or not it’s accelerated. Associates degrees are typically 2 years.
Not being a morning person isn’t a red flag, like. Not everyone wants to wake up before dawn to take a flight.
What is a red flag is how she blew up on her. Do not link hating mornings to being a hole.
Dude being a good person in 2024 is apparently hard for some people😭
Unfortunately it's not spoken about enough but w/w relationships have the highest rate of dv without a victim seeking help. Also be sure to cover yourself with allegedly when discussing these topics, thank you for speaking up
That’s not exactly true. The study everyone looks at is about lesbian/bi women that have been in abusive relationships. Some lesbians have been with men because they thought they were into men, or were in denial. Of course bi women like both men and women. Not saying there can’t be abusive wlw relationships, but that study is frequently cited and taken out of context.
@@Heyden_Weid the studies I'm talking about focused on same sex not just lesbians or bi womens relationships only same sex, female same sex relationships have the highest level of DV and abuse,
@@catherinehickey3752what’s the study? I’m always willing to change my mind with evidence.
Suzanna Rhodes has done several studies and written articles on the subject
I totally understand this kind of abuse and to get away from a narcissistic relationship is very hard cause they are very good at manipulating, they ace when it comes to this area! I hope this video will help someone to get out before it's too late!
college can be 2 years (associates degree) but is 4 years or more usually for bachelors degrees and up; i think it’s equivalent to what yall call university! also sometimes for athletes they stretch that a bit to keep them in there longer
Sounds like a belligerent drunk behavior for sure too. Yes she's abusive that on top of all these stories of her being shitfaced, scary.
I hope Sedona gets kicked off the Ducks team. She doesn’t deserve the spotlight nor money in the slightest.
Honestly, in mexico people rater stay away from troble, especially if it includes tourist
Don't know who these people are at all but wanted to comment about your thought that the men shouldn't have left them when Sedona demanded they leave them in the jungle. I'm sure the men, if they were mexican, were afraid of the American women potentially telling authorities or anyone else they came across that they didnt do as the women demanded. I wouldnt blame the men at all in this situation. They tried to help but some people just can't be helped or don't want help
I agree! They already tried to help ..then this giant psycho American woman is demanding they leave...they listened! 😂 Prob high tailed it as fast as they could too!! 😂
This is absolutely awful. I hope Liv finds another girlfriend who will love her and treat her well, and I hope Sedona steps on Legos.
This woman Sedona sounds like my ex wife. Yes, we are lesbians.
I was constantly on eggshells from her anger. Tons of emotional abuse. She almost physically hurt me. I left RIGHT BEFORE she did.
Two years. I’m still not okay.
Typically college is 4 years Sedona is a super senior so she can continue to play basketball
This was a tough watch, Liv is freaking gorgeous, I hope she finds someone who deserves her.
Sedona 🤦♀. From what all her exes have said about her, girl needs to go to therapy.
This woman Sedona sounds like my ex wife. Yes, we are lesbians.
I was constantly on eggshells from her anger. Tons of emotional abuse. My ex also drove CRAZILY in my car and had an accident in it. She never said sorry, just blamed me.
She almost physically hurt me. I left RIGHT BEFORE she did.
Two years. I’m still not okay.
I hope you’re healing, now that you’re away from that pos.
I was in college for 3 years and ran out of money lol college in the us can take a long time depending on how many credits you can afford and whether or not you have to work to support yourself while studying. And defending on the level of degree your pursuing
Normally 4 years for college/university degree in America.
And more for further education and degrees
I understand having a height preference but I don't know man the fact Sedona goes for exclusively short women gives me bad vibes, like she's choosing them because they're easier to overpower (or for another far more sinister reason that I don't even want to think about)
What a horrible story! She should have done some jail time.
Had no idea who they were, but. I would scared for my life with her
7:45 i wouldn't choose the bear, bears eat you alive..no thanks!
As somone who had a step father who was both narcissistic and had BPD just those few mothes i was with hin before i moced to my bio-fathers house was dredful i hated it but hey not i can cetch if somones toxic
Your Australian accent is SO STRONG! Ha!
Sedona makes me want to chug hand sanitizer
Before my DV relationship, I was that kind of person. I would say “oh I would I left. Easily…. (No. That’s not the case in most DV cases).
I dated my ex for nearly five years, with the last 2 ½ being filled with physical, mental, and emotional abuse. It's so hard to leave. I really feel for Liv :(
Seduca... not Sedona 💀
Actually I think college can last up to 8 years
OK so yes, Sedona IS a terrible person. Of course she is, I have standard. Poor person however has to stand that, but she did say a million times they'd broken up and Liv was not accepting a NO as an answer. Talks about cheating but they were broken up (one person refused to accept it). And you'd think "But even if you've just broken up you don't shot someone's mouth half an hour later." But Liv's obviously dead to her, so she obviously would do that?? Like at this point we are clear that Sedona has no morals
Sounds like my ex he wasn't abuse but mentally
I'm so sorry to hear that
@AnnaliseWood thanks sweetie out of it now everything was my fault, could do nothing right, was every name under the sun... He had my self-worth so low I stayed, but I stayed for sweet times.... People didn't see the kind things he did at times... I got pregnant, and he told me to kill myself, and his babies breaking off the relationship was nightmare ... two months later, after our spilt, he was married and pregnant with another woman from another country who had a baby here and is now stuck here ...
❤
You've clearly never been to college as it generally takes 4-5 years to get your undergraduate degree, and another 1-2 years for postgraduate degrees another and then at least another couple of years for a doctoral degree.
different countries m8 no needa be like that
In Canada, college is 2-3 years. A university degree is 4+ years. I feel like in the US, college is used as a generic term for post secondary education.
@@penelopesparlormaidit is
6:30 reckless behaviour and risk taking is a psychopathic trait, it's in the DSM.
I hate to judge a book by its cover but that Sedona girl looks disturbed. People need to more mindful about whom they allow into their lives. No matter how many social media followers they have
You know you’re kind of implying that it’s the victims fault and that they shallowly only went for her for her follower count
Some people hide their true selves until later in the relationship and it can build slowly until, all of the sudden, you realise you're in a mindfuck of a situation. Please don't victim blame.
@@shelbybaby1642 sure, we can act blind and ignore the lesson about power and influence for the sake of a shallow knee-jerk reaction claiming I am blaming the victim
To me, as one, it feels like this has some bipolar tendencies behaviour as well. There’s lots of overlap with the narcissistic tendencies as well. This is so sad! ❤
She sounds borderline.
Would NEVER choose a bear over a man .....
This sounds like drunk behavior. Is she an alcoholic? She needs to stop drinking. She needs AA. Sounds like she isn’t ready to admit she has a drinking problem. She is probably great when she’s sober
That’s still on her though.
@@Dave102693 agreed
Your rewards from feminism 😅
😮where are your beautifull blond hair go?