Dmills comes off a 2 pod injury and returns to his first team all pod form. Some were saying it was mikes time to add himself to the all pod conversations but after a rough stretch during the “is this a superstar” the talk of “is he a all star” come up. Kenny looks like he’s ready to add to his mvp trophy case. P after looking like the easy favorite for dpoy of pods enters the mvp conversations after making Mike look dumb for his superstar takes.
Someone who was a superstar without playoff success was Demarcus cousins. I feel like he was generally considered the best center throughout the league for a solid stretch without any success.
Superstar is a stretch imo. I don't think Cousins possessed the intangible or defensive gravity to propel a team to the next next level. Obviously he was on some bad teams but... take 2016-2017 and put him on the 2016-2017 Bulls with Rondo and Wade and Butler. Is that projected to win a title? Or even in consideration for being a title contending team?
Kenny should always have a short trivia game based on Mike's Drop the Mic question. Usually feels kinda pointless but this had a fun convo topic this week with D Mills being on his A Game guessing them all
honestly idk how you could have dame as a superstar but not AD. AD is the much more impactful player and even when he has bad shooting nights he’s impacting the game. We always complain about people like Julius Randle not doing stuff like that when they have a bad shooting night but when a guy like AD does it we still complain. Yes there’s a lot to be desired offensively but at the same time he has injury history so his passiveness can be understandable due to not wanting to bang with other centers.
Drop the Mike idea: who’s the best nba player to come out of your area/state and who’s your favorite?? For me I’d say D Wade is the best but d rose was my favorite
Glad to see DMills come back and pod at the same level. To all his haters, just enjoy pod. We’re witnessing one of the greatest in our generation, don’t take it for granted
What Mike was saying about Dame made perfect sense to me.. you have to take into account who someone is right now. Theres different levels and a difference between all star, star and superstar. Not sure what P was mad about lmaoo
How? Shai has literally been amazing the past two season is likely going to be all nba first team back to back he’s an excellent defender closer. If dame and kawhi are both still super stars then shai is for sure a super star
This is contradicting, how Dame can still be regarded as a superstar if he's good offensively and atrocious defensively while AD cannot because of offensive consistency (still averaging 24, 13, 3 and 1 tho). And Mike arguing about Kawhi being a superstar while AD and Dame is not? AD Dame Kawhi
Trae Young is a better player than Damian Lillard, we have to stop normalizing 27 ppg & 10 assists. Thats not normal to do, he gets his team to the Playoffs every year and has had a Conf Finals appearance. It just seems to be a bias against him that I really really really don’t understand.
They were very lenient when deciding who was a superstar or not. Only superstars to me this year are Jokic, Giannis, Steph, Luka, Embiid, KD, Book, Tatum, LeBron and Shai
It gets confusing when on one hand you’re saying it gotta be how they’re playing this season vs accounting for career accolades. Probably better to just not overthink it and go with a list like yours. Think about it too much and the criteria get messy cause if they’re Paul George is not a superstar cause he’s not playing at that level anymore but Shai isn’t either cause he’s not had deep playoff runs yet I don’t get if we’re looking at this season only or career numbers. Better just go with a gut feeling I guess lol
As a straight haired dude, that little band Luka wore is so nice to keep your hair off your forehead and brow. It flickin against your head can get annoying
Been watching y’all since kenny basement days and even when it was just audio. Super unlucky for me y’all stopping the bday shout-outs day before mine (Jan 2) but I’ll send you 50 cents P!! My name is Jon, 😂 next year tho when y’all slide to all star here in Indy Ima tap in w y’all! Glad Dmilly back.
You can't be a top 10 player and not be a superstar. I've never heard of such a thing. AD is a superstar WITHOUT QUESTION! He averaged 26 and 13 last season, so that whole "inconsistent offensively" argument isn't strong enough. JT is an inconsistent scorer at times as well and the whole panel agreed he fits the superstar criteria.
@@jeremiahsmith7706 is availability not part of being a superstar?? A large part of the reason why kawhi is no longer viewed as one is the constant unavailability. You don’t win games soley because you have AD , he’s not even of a difference maker to be called a superstar, he’s a great complimentary peice to a lebron , but that’s as far as it goes
@@DJJ616 I don't disagree with JT being better than AD necessarily. My whole point was you can't say AD isn't a superstar because he's inconsistent as a scorer, but then say JT is without a doubt a superstar when he's also inconsistent
@@jeremiahsmith7706 he’s clearly better than AD tho , that’s the point, AD is significantly more inconsistent that Tatum as well as being just a much worse offensive player Also superstars don’t have entire down years , AD had 2 , compare that to the occasional bad stretch for Tatum and you have you answer
I don’t understand how guys like Dame or Book or Kawhi are superstars but AD isn’t? (Personally I’d say none of them are) AD’s defense is better than any of those guys’ offense. And I’d even argue that he’s more consistent on offense than they are on defense (outside of Kawhi at least)
Trae young last 12 games: 30 and 11 on 45/38/85 with 1.7 steals a game solid defense I just really wish people would watch hawks games and realize it’s not Trae’s fault they’re losing. Listen to quin Synder. He’s doing everything the hawks want him to do. Dejounte is not the defender or passer people expected him to be. Trae plays better defense than him half of the games and that’s good as far as Trae’s improvement but awful for the Hawks. Ya’ll gotta start watching before y’all judge Trae man. He’s a better player now than in 2021.
Nah man AD is not a superstar. D Mills hit it right on the money. You should know what you're getting from a Superstar. So many players could "raise a ceiling or floor," but that doesn't make them a Superstar.
Dmills SGA has had his playoff moment as rookie showed up . Now that he’s older , i would believe that he will show up this time around . SGA is a superstar
That whole AD isnt a superstar debate was probably one of the dumbest things yall have ever said. The argument was he always brings the defense but not the offense, right? 85% of all superstars are the exact same but on offense. Yall reinforcing the stigma about casuals / people not caring/valuing defense. Yes I'd agree that offense is more important but defense is right there and I'd argue is harder in this league, the offense is given so much lee way. And you dont lose superstar status, thats silly, unless a player really falls off a cliff but thats rare outside of age.
Dmills back after his 2 pod suspension for leaving crumbs on the couch
😭😭😭
Nah that’s crazy😭
Lmaoooo
are all marcos funnny?
this the one 😭
Dmills comes off a 2 pod injury and returns to his first team all pod form. Some were saying it was mikes time to add himself to the all pod conversations but after a rough stretch during the “is this a superstar” the talk of “is he a all star” come up. Kenny looks like he’s ready to add to his mvp trophy case. P after looking like the easy favorite for dpoy of pods enters the mvp conversations after making Mike look dumb for his superstar takes.
This is crazy 🤣🤣
P is a piece of shit, always wayyy too agressive for no reason. Kawhi has 2 finals mvp, lillard has a bread. They are not on the same tier
I love these storylines yall narrate😭
Glad to see Dmills playing at an all-podcast level after his 2 game suspension
Someone who was a superstar without playoff success was Demarcus cousins. I feel like he was generally considered the best center throughout the league for a solid stretch without any success.
My favourite center of all time. Still just based off those superstar years
Superstar is a stretch imo. I don't think Cousins possessed the intangible or defensive gravity to propel a team to the next next level. Obviously he was on some bad teams but... take 2016-2017 and put him on the 2016-2017 Bulls with Rondo and Wade and Butler. Is that projected to win a title? Or even in consideration for being a title contending team?
Bro you can put joker shaq or wilt on that team they wouldnt have been projected to do anything
He was good. He was NOT a superstar he was the best by default. Who else was there? His second best comp was Marc gasol who was a low volume guy.
@@Perk30-bw7pkdefinitely would compare Jokic playoff teams from 2021-22 to that team it’s comparable
Dmills is back and dressed like an Expo marker 🔥💪🏿
He lookin like a king size sharpie 😂
Aye he came dressed to make a point, pun intended
He looks like he’s about to rob a food joint
yall joking but we would love watching you guys play board games. D Mills pictionary moments are iconic for a reason
36:25 NAHHH KENNY NOT SLICK. HE JUST CONFIRMED THROUGH THE WIRE LEAVING BLEACHER REPORT WITH THAT SLICK COMMENT. 😂
Kenny should always have a short trivia game based on Mike's Drop the Mic question. Usually feels kinda pointless but this had a fun convo topic this week with D Mills being on his A Game guessing them all
“I’m back”- Michael Jord- nah DMills 💯😂
I’m itching for the pod to drop each time, 3 episodes during the season would be so nice
Brother is an addict
@@abscinding im at work all day listening to podcasts 3 a week would be amazing
I thinks that's why Kenny and p made their own pod. To get more stuff out
Yeah it has taken a long time for them to do more. Tuesday to Saturday takes forever
honestly idk how you could have dame as a superstar but not AD. AD is the much more impactful player and even when he has bad shooting nights he’s impacting the game. We always complain about people like Julius Randle not doing stuff like that when they have a bad shooting night but when a guy like AD does it we still complain. Yes there’s a lot to be desired offensively but at the same time he has injury history so his passiveness can be understandable due to not wanting to bang with other centers.
I thought it was more crazy how unanimous and quick it was decided for dame and ad was a no pretty quick
Dmills with the all-podcast fit and performance. Them contract talks really have been settled.
D Milly just robbed a bank
29:48 nahhh Dmills out here writing fanfic😭 generational glazing 🗣️
Drop the Mike idea: who’s the best nba player to come out of your area/state and who’s your favorite?? For me I’d say D Wade is the best but d rose was my favorite
Me personally bc he graduated from my Highschool I went too ima have to say Norman Powell🔥
Mike Muscala went to college a town away from me
That AD take aged like milk😂😂
The boys never fail to fill my cheeks with joy when they upload❤
Crazy
You thought this was gonna get buried in the comments huh
This comment is crazy. 5 game suspension for this incoming
this shit wild
This some young Gary Harris shii
D Mills back and coming with the come !
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Great reference
Glad to see DMills come back and pod at the same level. To all his haters, just enjoy pod. We’re witnessing one of the greatest in our generation, don’t take it for granted
When P said “don’t ask me his college” someone should’ve for all the times he asked Derrick or Mike when he knew they didn’t know
Druski unfollowed Pierre😭😭😭
What Mike was saying about Dame made perfect sense to me.. you have to take into account who someone is right now. Theres different levels and a difference between all star, star and superstar. Not sure what P was mad about lmaoo
kenny defending shai being a superstar right now gotta be the most casual shit ive seen him do
How? Shai has literally been amazing the past two season is likely going to be all nba first team back to back he’s an excellent defender closer. If dame and kawhi are both still super stars then shai is for sure a super star
This is contradicting, how Dame can still be regarded as a superstar if he's good offensively and atrocious defensively while AD cannot because of offensive consistency (still averaging 24, 13, 3 and 1 tho). And Mike arguing about Kawhi being a superstar while AD and Dame is not?
AD
Dame
Kawhi
Naz and Rudy’s confidence is off the charts, it’s so much fun to watch
“ why don’t you get yourself a f*ckin book “ 😂😂😂 dawg
2:50 Kenny I see you wit the Mike Hunt joke
Trae Young is a better player than Damian Lillard, we have to stop normalizing 27 ppg & 10 assists. Thats not normal to do, he gets his team to the Playoffs every year and has had a Conf Finals appearance. It just seems to be a bias against him that I really really really don’t understand.
“Is he related to Mike[Hunt]” by Kenny is wild that Mike didn’t catch that😭
Mike love him a lil ahh quarter zip 😂😂
Hard to believe Halliburton is doing all this and he’s only 5 years old
As a Wiz fan I almost cried tears of joy hearing P bring up Bilal. The last time a rookie popped like this for us is Wall or Beal
The boys are back in town!!!
They were very lenient when deciding who was a superstar or not. Only superstars to me this year are Jokic, Giannis, Steph, Luka, Embiid, KD, Book, Tatum, LeBron and Shai
It gets confusing when on one hand you’re saying it gotta be how they’re playing this season vs accounting for career accolades. Probably better to just not overthink it and go with a list like yours.
Think about it too much and the criteria get messy cause if they’re Paul George is not a superstar cause he’s not playing at that level anymore but Shai isn’t either cause he’s not had deep playoff runs yet I don’t get if we’re looking at this season only or career numbers.
Better just go with a gut feeling I guess lol
You right, no way lillard who couldn’t make the play in is a superstar
What has shai done in the playoffs to get that label?
I’m sorry but you guys didn’t mention luka at all when naming superstars??
33:50 y’all didnt see everything i guess.. coach said he never even left the arena and you shoudnt believe the first report u see🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dmills was gone for a miiiiiin he must hit that Shohei money😂
As a straight haired dude, that little band Luka wore is so nice to keep your hair off your forehead and brow. It flickin against your head can get annoying
DMILLS GOT A NEW CONTRACT. THE LOCKOUT IS DONE.
Mike I be on the same thing, I just need snow on Christmas, and it can leave afterwards 😂😂
WELCOME BACK DMILLY
1:31:32 - P talking crazy 😂
Been watching y’all since kenny basement days and even when it was just audio. Super unlucky for me y’all stopping the bday shout-outs day before mine (Jan 2) but I’ll send you 50 cents P!! My name is Jon, 😂 next year tho when y’all slide to all star here in Indy Ima tap in w y’all! Glad Dmilly back.
Felt like DMills been gone 9 episodes god does answer prayers yall 🙏🏼
Pierre is much better on his own platform. That Heliocentric pod is quality. Polarizing performances based off watching this
THROUGH THE WIIIIIIRE, DMILYYYY BACK
dmills looking swaggy for the return
Derek got the full Rick fit
1:06:47 Doc Rivers lyin his a** off we just gonna forget about Isaiah Joe??😂
I feel so full now that the boys have dropped it on me 🙏
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I beg your pardon?
Mike bring his cute lil segments but when it comes time to talk actual ball he crumble
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Im sorry but if booker is a superstar trae gotta be one too. Those career stats too similar.
THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN
Shoutout Tsohonis getting 28 points off the bench for Long Beach State University and besting USC
MOOOOOM DMILLZ BACK DMILLZ BACK
26:13 why is P’s bron impression so good? 😭
31:21 giannis. Tf yall on today? 😂
Mike put Kenny on to the kicks
Welcome back Dmilly !
AD deserve an apology RIGHT NOW
Can he sustain it?
@@mrbushido7187 Only time'll tell, I hope so
@@RosesInTheDark1996 me too tbh he probably is my favorite all around player when healthy
@@mrbushido7187 Mine too
Love this pod but yall really really disrespect AD
DMills back with 4 different blacks on 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
You can't be a top 10 player and not be a superstar. I've never heard of such a thing. AD is a superstar WITHOUT QUESTION! He averaged 26 and 13 last season, so that whole "inconsistent offensively" argument isn't strong enough. JT is an inconsistent scorer at times as well and the whole panel agreed he fits the superstar criteria.
Tatums clearly better than AD tho , he’s been better the past 3 seasons, look at Ads numbers the 2 years before the 22/23 season.
@@DJJ616 yeah. AD's been injured
@@jeremiahsmith7706 is availability not part of being a superstar??
A large part of the reason why kawhi is no longer viewed as one is the constant unavailability.
You don’t win games soley because you have AD , he’s not even of a difference maker to be called a superstar, he’s a great complimentary peice to a lebron , but that’s as far as it goes
@@DJJ616 I don't disagree with JT being better than AD necessarily. My whole point was you can't say AD isn't a superstar because he's inconsistent as a scorer, but then say JT is without a doubt a superstar when he's also inconsistent
@@jeremiahsmith7706 he’s clearly better than AD tho , that’s the point, AD is significantly more inconsistent that Tatum as well as being just a much worse offensive player
Also superstars don’t have entire down years , AD had 2 , compare that to the occasional bad stretch for Tatum and you have you answer
Consistency = superstardom
I don’t understand how guys like Dame or Book or Kawhi are superstars but AD isn’t? (Personally I’d say none of them are)
AD’s defense is better than any of those guys’ offense. And I’d even argue that he’s more consistent on offense than they are on defense (outside of Kawhi at least)
Dmills came fitted tf up 😭
i was rey say how is tatum a superstar and not jimmy boi sent him packing twice 😂😂😂
Trae young last 12 games: 30 and 11 on 45/38/85 with 1.7 steals a game solid defense
I just really wish people would watch hawks games and realize it’s not Trae’s fault they’re losing. Listen to quin Synder. He’s doing everything the hawks want him to do.
Dejounte is not the defender or passer people expected him to be. Trae plays better defense than him half of the games and that’s good as far as Trae’s improvement but awful for the Hawks. Ya’ll gotta start watching before y’all judge Trae man. He’s a better player now than in 2021.
That will never happen. They have their narratives and they will stick to them.
good ep
Finally everyone back 🐐🐐🐐🐐🙏🏾
Good to see Dmills back.
Yall really saying Davis isn't a superstar but Dame is?
2020 Lebron had a top 3 pg season ever
Got my bday shoutout on my bday shit crazy
Welcome back Dmilly
goated ass episode
Embiid is a superstar. But we gotta hold him accountable for his playoff failures injuries or not.
Boogie was a superstar before he ever even sniffed the playoffs
Nah man AD is not a superstar. D Mills hit it right on the money. You should know what you're getting from a Superstar. So many players could "raise a ceiling or floor," but that doesn't make them a Superstar.
P growing that hair out 🤙🏾
The boys are back in town
Dmills SGA has had his playoff moment as rookie showed up . Now that he’s older , i would believe that he will show up this time around .
SGA is a superstar
Mike had me crying bro 😭😭 1:28:21
“That wasn’t no Chris Bosh…that was a white man in a Chris Bosh jersey”
DMILLY CAME BACK DRIPPPPINGGG
57:29 I was waiting on ja morant man
Thanks P
THE BOYYYYYSSS ARE BACK IN TOOOOWWWWNNNN
I just clicked to see if d mills was there. Now I'm hyped for when I watch it later
welcome back dmills
DMILLS BACK
dmilly came back fitted up
Solid fit today Derrick
Who TF is Cole Swindler? I love how Mike, who's a lakers fan doesnt know its Cole Swider
Yo dmilly ima need another food review ma boy
DMILLS!!!!!!!! WELCOME BACK
That whole AD isnt a superstar debate was probably one of the dumbest things yall have ever said. The argument was he always brings the defense but not the offense, right? 85% of all superstars are the exact same but on offense.
Yall reinforcing the stigma about casuals / people not caring/valuing defense. Yes I'd agree that offense is more important but defense is right there and I'd argue is harder in this league, the offense is given so much lee way. And you dont lose superstar status, thats silly, unless a player really falls off a cliff but thats rare outside of age.
DMILLY BACK
2:43 Mike who?😂
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Mike was right about lillard, no way you can call a him a superstar when he couldn’t even make the 10th seed last year