The shearing of sheep began in around 3500 B.C, at around the time when man learned how to spin wool for their clothes and other everyday uses. Try again dummy.
@@FreddieAlyes dumb a$$ then sheep were selectively bred to produce excessive wool to commodify them as a wool making machine when the production slows off to the slaughterhouse when will you thick meatflakes get the message!
Can really see how your approach has developed, Mel. Such a great job of reflecting the disconnect and cut off of empathy without completely switching her off by judging or shaming. I find that balance really difficult to strike but feel like you did a great job here. Hope she reflects on her answers and her stance on animals. ❤
No. Just heavily indoctrinated people with a lot of cognitive dissonance. I mean yes, there are sociopaths out there - just look at our political class of the CEO of pretty much any major corporation! - but this woman isn't one of them.
I'm tempted to blame her cluelessness and entitlement on her age (whatever that is) but sadly I've heard this same viewpoint from every age of person. CRINGE. I trust she will get over this embarrassing behavior sooner than later. Great work at addressing all the angles. The seeds have been planted.
@@Usurpus616 spoken like someone who has their up way up their ass. Stop embarrassing yourself at the expense of those who don't deserve or desire to be exploited and killed for it any more than you would. Ya think?
@JordanDecay How nice of you to notice 😅 I'll say it one more time though I have said it a hundred times before. I'm not opposed to veganism in fact I've got family members and several friends who are vegan but I don't judge them and they don't judge me. But nobody has the right to haress and emotionally manipulate random strangers into believing that just because they eat meat they are wrong and evil. Evangelical Christians use similar tactics to try and make a person believe that their religion is the right one. Is that really the kind of people you want to be compared to?
Went through all the typical carnist fallacies. Lions bro! It's my personal choice bro! But we've always done it bro! I don't know how activists can keep their patience hearing the same old excuses over and over.
Clearly she doesn't want to answer any questions because she knows that the answer she would like to give in order to justify her position would be shameful and morally incorrect. That's why go vegan is the only way. Great job, Mel! 😎👍🏻 Greetings from Playa del Carmen, México 🇲🇽
Easy for the oppressor to just shrug their shoulders and pull a smirk because they are not the victim…. I wonder how she would feel if someone oppressing her done the same!
Humans are nothing more than atom clusters that rearrange when someone passes. Animals and plants are the same thing. Those atoms end up forming something else. Electricity produced by these atoms allows us to see the visualization of these arrangements. In the grand scope of things carrots and humans are really no different.
Why do carnists say "at the end of the day" all the time? I hear this expression in every debate. It doesn't mean anything, it doesn't give value to their argument and it's useless in a honest, smart, constructive debate.
Why do vegturds say murder, when it's not, rape when it's not, call them babies when they're not. Don't debate with vegturds, just eat meat in the knowledge vegans lose every time we do.
what does that actually mean? how does she look disconnected from reality? perhaps she's just not susceptible to gaslighting and has already been exposed to rhetorical manipulation of a similar kind.
@@v.a.n.e. for you not to understand my comment says a lot about your character. You are the same as she is disconnected and desensitized by Society to believe that violence is okay. The only gas lighting going around is from people like yourself.
understanding your comment would require a crystal ball, something I'd rather avoid using. could you substantiate your comment instead of excelling at ad homs, please?
Sad to see someone this apathetic in the face of the horrors they show on those screens. "It comes down to personal beliefs at the end of the day" is such a weird justification to me too - are you just saying your personal belief is that murder, rape and torture are ok? If that is your personal belief, I wouldn't be saying that too loud.
Not sure any buzzwords were used in my comment but I'll bite anyway. If you're not happy with what was said in the video, what, in your view, is a justification for unnecessarily paying for the death of animals for food?
@@JakeBristow1729 ah, pay him no heed: no one does, not even himself, I'm afraid. He's got ten ready-made sentences and keeps repeating them, one of which is "nice buzzwords and no arguments". He's basically logarithm fodder: give him a like and you'll make his day :)
This is 2024, so very easy and cheap to go vegan, there is no justification for killing and eating animals. One is either an animal abuser or one is not,if you are against abusing animals you must be vegan ! Excellent conversation, so sad to see a young person with such a closed heart and mind. Now she knows she can't unknow it,she must take full responsibility for her violent unkind actions towards innocent gentle beings.
@ Lomochenko Same here. I steal from the local shelters trying to give food and clothing to homeless people. Once again.. your logic is flawless. Great post kiddo
"Obviously I wouldn't wanna cut the lamb's head off ... but I wouldn't wanna say that I wouldn't wanna cut the lamb's head off ... so ... I do want to cut the lamb's head off? No..." Lol...
Often we are selfish and at times we have to be so that we can survive. I have lived on the streets and had to survive the hard way. (I am trying to become Vegan and I want to be Vegan I have not eaten animal products for a long while (except for the occasional “mistake” where I ate meat) it was so very traumatic. I realised that I would not do it ever again.
@@Trolloftruth did you know your comments are forgotten without hours if not minutes. But the traction you provide for these videos will go on forever. You are only a positive for veganism
@@plantgeezer "Boosting the video" 😂😂😂 🤡 I will be boosting my local butchers profit when I collect my order. I won't forget about that interaction because it happens on a weekly basis. It sounds as though you put video views ahead of saving animals
How can someone be so disconnected and vile. She's probably fantasising about andrew tate. Disgusting. You did your best Mel. I hope she thinks hard and makes that connection asap.
@@John.AR.Activism Exactly. To be against animal abuser tate, you gotta first be vegan. If not, you're just as bad or worse than him. All women who are against ethical veganism are pretty much tate lovers in their heart anyways. hypocrites.
@@paulb8251 Why care for animals when they could care less about you? Why the empathy for nonhuman animals? I don’t get it. Animals could care less about our existence so why should you waste time caring about theirs?
it's kinda strange to see two ladies, one of whom is obviously in superb health, wearing only a T-shirt, while the other fully outfitted for the north pole expedition.
It’s kind of weird to see the same kid still trolling after years of bolstering nonsensical comments and avoiding any rational relevance to the topic have been following. Get better kiddo.. go get some fresh air
I am not sure how you can hold animals higher than plants. All things are nothing more than a cluster of atoms with electricity. Sentient beings just have a little different arrangement of atoms. Just cause something can process sensory data doesn’t make them more or less important. The Vegan argument is very surface level.
😂😂😂 how thick are you! You think because you use words like atoms your ridiculous claim holds weight? It’s not just a minor adjustment in atoms! It’s a completely different make up! A central nervous system and a brain for a start! Using your logic humans are also no different to a rock therefore we shouldn’t have any rights protecting us including you from and form of oppression or violence because we are all the same as the rock……
@@vamsiramineedi6296 We are animals. We are apex predators not prey animals. If you asking if we swap from predators to prey animals then that’s a hell no. We evolved as Kings of this world. We are not going to digress.
@ FreddieAl I love how everything you don’t understand you call “hypothetical” lmao.. for someone who’s “almost 70” you are not that smart or wise huh?
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The shearing of sheep began in around 3500 B.C, at around the time when man learned how to spin wool for their clothes and other everyday uses.
Try again dummy.
@@FreddieAlyes dumb a$$ then sheep were selectively bred to produce excessive wool to commodify them as a wool making machine when the production slows off to the slaughterhouse when will you thick meatflakes get the message!
great work Mel, hopefully a seed planted.
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Can really see how your approach has developed, Mel. Such a great job of reflecting the disconnect and cut off of empathy without completely switching her off by judging or shaming.
I find that balance really difficult to strike but feel like you did a great job here. Hope she reflects on her answers and her stance on animals. ❤
Great work Mel!
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Her neck got a good exercise talking to Mel... how many shrugs did she do??
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Sociopaths are among us!
No. Just heavily indoctrinated people with a lot of cognitive dissonance.
I mean yes, there are sociopaths out there - just look at our political class of the CEO of pretty much any major corporation! - but this woman isn't one of them.
@@michaelrchaka the vegan cult
Vegans have blinders on and they don’t see the big picture.
Vegans are weird as hell.
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Please, go on. Explain.
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Well done, Mel!
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I'm tempted to blame her cluelessness and entitlement on her age (whatever that is) but sadly I've heard this same viewpoint from every age of person. CRINGE. I trust she will get over this embarrassing behavior sooner than later. Great work at addressing all the angles. The seeds have been planted.
Spoken like a true cultist
@Usurpus616 you've made over 100 comments on a channel that you hate-watch. That is so sad 💀
@@Usurpus616 spoken like someone who has their up way up their ass. Stop embarrassing yourself at the expense of those who don't deserve or desire to be exploited and killed for it any more than you would. Ya think?
@JordanDecay How nice of you to notice 😅 I'll say it one more time though I have said it a hundred times before.
I'm not opposed to veganism in fact I've got family members and several friends who are vegan but I don't judge them and they don't judge me.
But nobody has the right to haress and emotionally manipulate random strangers into believing that just because they eat meat they are wrong and evil.
Evangelical Christians use similar tactics to try and make a person believe that their religion is the right one. Is that really the kind of people you want to be compared to?
@@davidgiardina5424
Shall we take a vote
97% in favour of eating meat
3% against
Motion to eat meat carried.
Went through all the typical carnist fallacies. Lions bro! It's my personal choice bro! But we've always done it bro! I don't know how activists can keep their patience hearing the same old excuses over and over.
JUST wanna eat meat bro stop comparing non humans to humans bro just stfu bro
Carnism doesn’t exist
"Carnist" tho
It's a term made up by a vegturd for vegturds to use. It doesn't exist to the meat eating majority
No excuse for animal abuse, live vegan 💗💗💗
There is no excuse for veganism
@@Trolloftruth, There is no excuse for fairness and decency?
Hypocrite
@@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy Absolutely not. Life is not fair. Never has been and never will be.
@@Trolloftruthtroll
Be vegan!
Be gone
Clearly she doesn't want to answer any questions because she knows that the answer she would like to give in order to justify her position would be shameful and morally incorrect. That's why go vegan is the only way.
Great job, Mel! 😎👍🏻
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Talking ain't doing much to these kinds. They need to be confronted using other mediums.
Cold hearted and cold blooded girl.
Nah. Those animals wouldn’t care what happened to you anymore then what meat eaters care about them.
I want to marry her.
For a second there I thought Mel said "you seem like you've got concussion".
Easy for the oppressor to just shrug their shoulders and pull a smirk because they are not the victim…. I wonder how she would feel if someone oppressing her done the same!
I believe in karma -- if not this life then the next. Guarantee she'll know how it feels one day.
Humans are nothing more than atom clusters that rearrange when someone passes. Animals and plants are the same thing. Those atoms end up forming something else. Electricity produced by these atoms allows us to see the visualization of these arrangements. In the grand scope of things carrots and humans are really no different.
It wouldn't happen to her would it, that would be against the law snowflake
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There isn't a next life
@@FreddieAl
Prove it?
Why do carnists say "at the end of the day" all the time? I hear this expression in every debate. It doesn't mean anything, it doesn't give value to their argument and it's useless in a honest, smart, constructive debate.
Why do vegturds say murder, when it's not, rape when it's not, call them babies when they're not.
Don't debate with vegturds, just eat meat in the knowledge vegans lose every time we do.
Wow!!! She was a tough one 😢😮
1st...... Not today CDA.
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Be kind be vegan😊🙏💚💚💚🐑🐔🐮🐷❤️❤️❤️🐥
How about be kind and mind your business
@@FreddieAlironic😂
@@FreddieAltoo much time on your hands?
@Anlbleeding
Yes, time that I've earned tw@
Freak show
For someone so young to be so disconnected from reality is dangerous. Once someone loses compassion and empathy there's nothing left.
Sad to see.
what does that actually mean? how does she look disconnected from reality? perhaps she's just not susceptible to gaslighting and has already been exposed to rhetorical manipulation of a similar kind.
@@v.a.n.e. for you not to understand my comment says a lot about your character. You are the same as she is disconnected and desensitized by Society to believe that violence is okay. The only gas lighting going around is from people like yourself.
understanding your comment would require a crystal ball, something I'd rather avoid using. could you substantiate your comment instead of excelling at ad homs, please?
@@v.a.n.e. it does not require a crystal ball to understand my comment. If you choose to be ignorant and not listen to the truth then that is on you.
Wow, girlfriend even looks like Jeffrey Dahmer.
Jeffrey Dahmer didn't actually eat the body parts he kept in his refrigerator -- but this girl does.
The vegan skank reminds me of Adam Lanza
This is the future of our generation and she doesn’t even know what sentient means? 🤯😂
And you don't know what keep your nose out means
@@FreddieAl nope ☺️
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No matter, I'm having sentient bacon for breakfast
@@FreddieAl good for you 😂👌
@@FreddieAl that young woman is on your side of the argument 😂 not looking great now is it? 🤣
Outside beauty does not always coincide with inside beauty. This video is a good example of that.
Sad to see someone this apathetic in the face of the horrors they show on those screens.
"It comes down to personal beliefs at the end of the day" is such a weird justification to me too - are you just saying your personal belief is that murder, rape and torture are ok? If that is your personal belief, I wouldn't be saying that too loud.
it's the TikTok generation. "As long as someone does the dirty work for me, I'll. . . . what was I saying?! Let me get my fix of digital dopamine."
Nice buzzwords still no arguments
Not sure any buzzwords were used in my comment but I'll bite anyway.
If you're not happy with what was said in the video, what, in your view, is a justification for unnecessarily paying for the death of animals for food?
@@JakeBristow1729 ah, pay him no heed: no one does, not even himself, I'm afraid. He's got ten ready-made sentences and keeps repeating them, one of which is "nice buzzwords and no arguments". He's basically logarithm fodder: give him a like and you'll make his day :)
Ah thanks! Well, whatever gets these videos more interaction I suppose!
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This is 2024, so very easy and cheap to go vegan, there is no justification for killing and eating animals.
One is either an animal abuser or one is not,if you are against abusing animals you must be vegan !
Excellent conversation, so sad to see a young person with such a closed heart and mind.
Now she knows she can't unknow it,she must take full responsibility for her violent unkind actions towards innocent gentle beings.
I don’t need a justification to eat meat. I take what I want. I don’t shy away.
@ Lomochenko Same here. I steal from the local shelters trying to give food and clothing to homeless people. Once again.. your logic is flawless. Great post kiddo
@@paulb8251 Not a bad idea.
@@jjradV it is not cheap and easy to go vegan. That is the biggest lie you people spout
@@Lomochenko so you are for abusing and killing animals ?
"Obviously I wouldn't wanna cut the lamb's head off ... but I wouldn't wanna say that I wouldn't wanna cut the lamb's head off ... so ... I do want to cut the lamb's head off? No..." Lol...
Good job Mel
Must have been so exasperating talking to this soulless robot, Mel. 😢
Often we are selfish and at times we have to be so that we can survive. I have lived on the streets and had to survive the hard way. (I am trying to become Vegan and I want to be Vegan I have not eaten animal products for a long while (except for the occasional “mistake” where I ate meat) it was so very traumatic. I realised that I would not do it ever again.
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She really hurts
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@@Trolloftruth did you know your comments are forgotten without hours if not minutes. But the traction you provide for these videos will go on forever. You are only a positive for veganism
@@plantgeezerBulls*it
@@Usurpus616 thank you for boosting video with another comment. Will forget about this interaction within 10 minutes thanks for coming
@@plantgeezer
"Boosting the video" 😂😂😂 🤡
I will be boosting my local butchers profit when I collect my order. I won't forget about that interaction because it happens on a weekly basis. It sounds as though you put video views ahead of saving animals
Sentience doesn't mean a desire to live.
Are you joking? You think these animals just bounce into the slaughterhouse skipping for joy?
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Why does animals run when you try to get them?
@@stx7389 I have been around animals my whole life and never once has one ran from me.
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Do they
@@Untillallarefree
I don't care how they get there as long as the job gets done. Stop blubbering snowflake
coudnt of said it any better, great answers to her responses! #vegan all the way
😂😂😂😂 oh the irony.
"coudnt of said it any better"
#stupidity all the way
@@FreddieAl mad animal abuser?
@@sn1per196
Foxtrot Oscar lettuce licking vegturd
Skateboarding isn't a crime.
giving up eating animals is same as giving up islam.i didn't find any difference between both ideologies .both has plethora of excuses...
Circle of life like in The Lion King??? Can't believe that people in 2024 still talking this nonsense...completely lost and far away from reality.
How can someone be so disconnected and vile. She's probably fantasising about andrew tate. Disgusting. You did your best Mel. I hope she thinks hard and makes that connection asap.
That is the stupidest thing I have ever had the misfortune to read.
@DesertWalker-zf7eb I gotta be honest that even confused me, most young women are probably not fans of andrew rapey tate.
Do you fantasise about Earthling DickEd
How can someone be so judgemental?
@@John.AR.Activism Exactly. To be against animal abuser tate, you gotta first be vegan. If not, you're just as bad or worse than him. All women who are against ethical veganism are pretty much tate lovers in their heart anyways. hypocrites.
The song is so cool what is it? Background intro music
That was a waste of a resource card.
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Why do you always find clueless/unprepared people to debate with? Is it to make yourself look better, Mel?
What would your argument against veganism be? Since you are such a prepared intellectual.
@@paulb8251 it depends, give me your vegan argument first. Shall we start with 'name the trait'?
@@paulb8251 Why care for animals when they could care less about you? Why the empathy for nonhuman animals? I don’t get it. Animals could care less about our existence so why should you waste time caring about theirs?
All carnists are clueless and unprepared. Stop being an animals abuser
@@Untillallarefree not an argument
it's kinda strange to see two ladies, one of whom is obviously in superb health, wearing only a T-shirt, while the other fully outfitted for the north pole expedition.
Piers Morgan logic… that’s all you animal abuser meatflakes can spout out
will ignoring you will hurt your huge desire for attention more than a proper reply?
Someone was wearing shorts in the rain … therefore we can send animals to gas chambers…. Great logic moron
@@Untillallarefree
Snowflake lettuce lickers, receivers of swollen goods, hush child.
It’s kind of weird to see the same kid still trolling after years of bolstering nonsensical comments and avoiding any rational relevance to the topic have been following. Get better kiddo.. go get some fresh air
I’m 269th like hehe
I am not sure how you can hold animals higher than plants. All things are nothing more than a cluster of atoms with electricity. Sentient beings just have a little different arrangement of atoms. Just cause something can process sensory data doesn’t make them more or less important. The Vegan argument is very surface level.
So you are the same as a carrot?
😂😂😂 how thick are you! You think because you use words like atoms your ridiculous claim holds weight? It’s not just a minor adjustment in atoms! It’s a completely different make up! A central nervous system and a brain for a start! Using your logic humans are also no different to a rock therefore we shouldn’t have any rights protecting us including you from and form of oppression or violence because we are all the same as the rock……
literally nothing would have any value in a universe without sentience. It could be anything, nobody would care
These people believe livestock are on the same level (and maybe a higher level) than human beings. I do not!
@@Usurpus616 not at all just a higher level than your taste buds do you think your taste is worth more than their life?
Understand Nature.
How about you swap positions with the animals and understand the nature better?
@@vamsiramineedi6296appeal to emotion fallacy
@@vamsiramineedi6296 We are animals. We are apex predators not prey animals. If you asking if we swap from predators to prey animals then that’s a hell no. We evolved as Kings of this world. We are not going to digress.
@@vamsiramineedi6296
How about you stop with the hypothetical bullshit
@ FreddieAl I love how everything you don’t understand you call “hypothetical” lmao.. for someone who’s “almost 70” you are not that smart or wise huh?
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