@RyanZumMallen do you think there will be a price correction in the next 5-6 years once the market is flooded with gtrs now that they are becoming legal or have we all missed the boat?
@@mapko15 it’s certainly possible, but I would say unlikely. In past trends once a car gets hot, it stays hot for at least a decade. Because of the quantity these are much more like the Porsche market than the Mustang/Camaro market
I enjoyed this show more than I thought I would, prejudging it from the title. I think the discussion was more broad than just the car. Ryan seems really knowledgeable and down to earth.
@TheSmokingTirePodcast Great book and an easy read, highly recommended. Awesome interview as always Matt and Zack, the best interview format automotive podcast IMO. Also the name of the book Ryan referred to is, The Automotive Gray Market: An Inside History by John B. Hege.
Finally up to date with podcast drops, and what an episode to arrive at. I'm very much a Best Motoring/Gran Turismo kid as well, and I've owned an R33 in the past and would some day like to again! Mine was GTS-25t, and it cost me £5000 back in 2007. I had to import it from the UK to Norway, but it was still under half the price of an already registered one at the time. Sadly it was stolen 5 years later, and probably dismantled for parts as the police never found it. Luckily for me, R33s still seems to be the ugly duckling of the family so they are still (relatively) more attainable. Will probably have to settle for another GTS though, or indeed going 4-door like Zack. With the money saved from not buying a GT-R, there's a huge budget for mods too. Definitely grabbing this book, it'll seems like a great read and as a bonus will look nice on my shelf next to my other three Skyline books :)
A number of people in Canada purchased R32, R33 and R34 GTRs for cheap and used them as winter beaters for years... The 10 year head start we had over the US really puts the current prices for these cars into perspective. And it's the same for a lot of the popular JDM cars. Many of the ones that come to auction were left outside and abandoned, because they just became old, used cars. It didn't matter how special they were...
13:35 "That Mines Car" For those wanting the original 90s' experience, here is the video. It started with the dude looking down at the camera and ended with wanting a Skyline GTR: ua-cam.com/video/t-rUFFAua0A/v-deo.html Back in the day we didn't get the whole video like this, it was just the Mines GTR clip.
BMW Z4 M40i with Handschalter Package - 'Handschalter' literal translation is 'hand shifter'. Handschalter is common speech for cars with manual transmission.
I don't think a left hand drive GTR would have been some high volume savior for Nissan but it's possible that a rear wheel drive naturally aspirated version which in some senses is what the G35 was. Would have emerged earlier and made infiniti are more competitive brand earlier. Infinity was printing money with the G35 at the FX35 and they could have potentially started that even earlier as the j30 was a sales failure
In NZ where these were just cars it's been scary watching Americans going all in on a Nissan Skyline. My mum had an R30 in the 80s that replaced an AlfaGTV, but we went for a Schnitzer M3 as the R33 was to heavy like the 300zx. The obsession with Japanese culture and GTR cosplay is weird having lived through the 90s as a car person.
@@fraserwright9482 Only weird to kiwis as you guys think the stramgest rarest cars are normal, even in Australia Skylines despite being more common were still considered abit special. NZ is a unique place for cars " Ye brew me Ded hed a Moris Marina with a quad rotor, awd and active aero back in the 90s aye " LIKE ITS NORMAL lol
Have to agree on the forbidden fruit. The skyline has been available in my country since the R32. They had precious little respect here and their values have simply been driven up by North American demand. JDM rally homologation are the classics of choice. I will also add that there are no performance American cars I'm lusting after, as many as I've seen and experienced, so I guess I'm the exception.
Really enjoyed this conversation. This guy is dope. Definitely reading his book now. Thanks.
cant believe Hugo from Succession knows so much about gtrs
Hahahaha
oh shit, I’ve never been told that one before lol
@RyanZumMallen do you think there will be a price correction in the next 5-6 years once the market is flooded with gtrs now that they are becoming legal or have we all missed the boat?
@@mapko15 it’s certainly possible, but I would say unlikely. In past trends once a car gets hot, it stays hot for at least a decade. Because of the quantity these are much more like the Porsche market than the Mustang/Camaro market
Lmaooooo
I enjoyed this show more than I thought I would, prejudging it from the title. I think the discussion was more broad than just the car. Ryan seems really knowledgeable and down to earth.
The best episode of TST in quite a long time...
Just bought his book this morning after you mentioned it in the past podcast. Thanks for not spoiling the whole book! Looking forward to the read.
This was such a great talk. Thank you guys for continuing to share these stories and now I want a Skyline....
@TheSmokingTirePodcast
Great book and an easy read, highly recommended. Awesome interview as always Matt and Zack, the best interview format automotive podcast IMO. Also the name of the book Ryan referred to is, The Automotive Gray Market: An Inside History by John B. Hege.
Finally up to date with podcast drops, and what an episode to arrive at.
I'm very much a Best Motoring/Gran Turismo kid as well, and I've owned an R33 in the past and would some day like to again!
Mine was GTS-25t, and it cost me £5000 back in 2007. I had to import it from the UK to Norway, but it was still under half the price of an already registered one at the time.
Sadly it was stolen 5 years later, and probably dismantled for parts as the police never found it.
Luckily for me, R33s still seems to be the ugly duckling of the family so they are still (relatively) more attainable.
Will probably have to settle for another GTS though, or indeed going 4-door like Zack. With the money saved from not buying a GT-R, there's a huge budget for mods too.
Definitely grabbing this book, it'll seems like a great read and as a bonus will look nice on my shelf next to my other three Skyline books :)
15 years ago we had a lot of R32 GTR in Montreal. Some of them were rough. Very few left.
A number of people in Canada purchased R32, R33 and R34 GTRs for cheap and used them as winter beaters for years... The 10 year head start we had over the US really puts the current prices for these cars into perspective. And it's the same for a lot of the popular JDM cars. Many of the ones that come to auction were left outside and abandoned, because they just became old, used cars. It didn't matter how special they were...
I first saw a "GT-R" in a scale model/RC car magazine in the very early 90's. Fell in love with the body style and box flares.
tamiya
3000GT from Mitsubishi was a car I lusted for in highschool
Great episode
DON'T HATE ON THE CEDRIC
13:35 "That Mines Car" For those wanting the original 90s' experience, here is the video. It started with the dude looking down at the camera and ended with wanting a Skyline GTR: ua-cam.com/video/t-rUFFAua0A/v-deo.html Back in the day we didn't get the whole video like this, it was just the Mines GTR clip.
Matt literally can’t help himself, he has to interrupt the guest to tell his obscure story of why something isn’t his fault. 🤣🤣🤣
Last time he made an edgy comment he got an earful and had to apologize a show later.. So getting ahead of it makes sense..
Zack made a good point, same thing with the BMW Delivery program
i was typing the answer as s question to check on the book title as they found it on the show
Im here, lets get Zumi
BMW Z4 M40i with Handschalter Package - 'Handschalter' literal translation is 'hand shifter'. Handschalter is common speech for cars with manual transmission.
I don't think a left hand drive GTR would have been some high volume savior for Nissan but it's possible that a rear wheel drive naturally aspirated version which in some senses is what the G35 was. Would have emerged earlier and made infiniti are more competitive brand earlier. Infinity was printing money with the G35 at the FX35 and they could have potentially started that even earlier as the j30 was a sales failure
In NZ where these were just cars it's been scary watching Americans going all in on a Nissan Skyline. My mum had an R30 in the 80s that replaced an AlfaGTV, but we went for a Schnitzer M3 as the R33 was to heavy like the 300zx. The obsession with Japanese culture and GTR cosplay is weird having lived through the 90s as a car person.
@@fraserwright9482 Only weird to kiwis as you guys think the stramgest rarest cars are normal, even in Australia Skylines despite being more common were still considered abit special. NZ is a unique place for cars " Ye brew me Ded hed a Moris Marina with a quad rotor, awd and active aero back in the 90s aye " LIKE ITS NORMAL lol
I’d personally want the Mazda. I love that they’ve engineered a new straight six into the world.
It would be great to see Honda Type-R model history book at some point.
"If you see me on Nissan, you know that I'm dead" - Robbie Coltrane.
Have to agree on the forbidden fruit. The skyline has been available in my country since the R32. They had precious little respect here and their values have simply been driven up by North American demand. JDM rally homologation are the classics of choice. I will also add that there are no performance American cars I'm lusting after, as many as I've seen and experienced, so I guess I'm the exception.
24:52 - common misconception. Not only porsche roots are not german one of the founders was Jewish. Adolf Rosenberger
Good automotive geekery
Mmm a whole episode about Nissans
Matt should loose some weight. He’s not representing his advertisers in a very good way.