Dude, you’re my hero! I made a career tanker ship and bought 140,000 liters of diesel and when I went to go sell it I was only able to unload 7,000! I was so bummed because I spent all my money buying diesel and couldn’t sell it
Thanks for the video, one thing i have found, if you pump a liquid at very high atm into a sell station you get less money than you should, i also observed this with fuel consumption if you relieve the pressure from your fuel tanks you get slightly less fuel consumption, only a few percent but it helps
It seems kind of dumb, but I always make it a point to put manual relief systems on my bigger creations. Like in the case where tank 8 stalled due to 60 atm, I'd have a port with a gas valve with a directional flow valve to a manual hand valve out to a filter any other port just so I could keep it going. I know it's not practical for this test setup, but for a large ship, you do what you've got to. This is really good stuff though. Probably one of the worst things in the game is oil tanking because it fills up all fine and dandy and then it takes an eternity to sell it all. I'm going to have to try the smaller tank trick on my builds from now on because it's painful to buy 80,000 l of crude oil and then have to reset 79,000 of it because it's not selling fast enough and a tsunami went and threw my tanker onto the refinery dock so now it's got a whole lot more issues. This is more of it's a painful time commitment than in game finances. I want a working system before I commit in career or classic.
The fastest, yet most impractical, way of transferring liquids faster than how you're doing is to do it through those connecting hatches. If you make a kind of side tank that can swing out (I know the limitations on the rig build areas) that has a magnetic door hatch and you have one on the tanker, you connect them, open them up, there is technically nothing faster than a literal open hole like that. HOWEVER!!! It's probably one of the most impractical ways of doing things because the only way to get stuff around is by gravity dumping from one sealed container to a lower sealed container. Like in reality, that's what you use to scuttle ships fast (you use either doors or hatches) but you need the sealing connector ones to insure that you're not just dumping it all out into the desert floor. I don't know how pressure effects it in that case because the game will act like the liquid is flooding out of one hatch and the other one will act as if it's being flooded. Does pressure really play into that volume? I'm sure it does but then again, you'd be able to relief pressure fast with a hatch on top. Do I know if this actually works with oil and diesel? No, not a clue. I only am speculating because I know it works with water and I figure if it works with fluid A, it should work with fluids B, C, D, and E.
I personally chock the docking doors as the same as custom door tank opening Ive done. My thoughts are this anything that is considered a "door" has a max flow rate base on size and pressure on Both sides. Ive built a Nuclear Rod Cartridge system using the docking doors. once the they are connected i'm very certain game considers the cart just another volume on the craft. No radiation is released untill i break the connectors without proper doors closed. On my storage tanks for my refinery i did find that if the "Door" for the drain tank is too small it cant flow and flow gets stunted. the Pumps Pulling the fluid from the tank were pulling faster than the door can let it in. fluid systems hate 0 atm just as much as 60 atm.
Bro this is so good. love your experiments! Could you do an update video in regards to getting the best transfer rates going from and to buy and sell stations? I have set up a oil liner with tanks that can transfer initially 500 l/s and obviously degrades over time but when I take it to a sell station, I get like 10 l/s. in both situations im filling the drain tanks with air but for some reason I have not been able to get good rates at the buy and sell stations. Would love your thoughts! Thanks again :)
Is the save you Doing the transfer on created before the Compressed Gases Update? if so the gantries will get gas lock from gas build up in the transfer. if newer you should maybe try a gas return just before port sending back to tank to help maintain pressure.
how can i apply this to a fire apparatus. I'm struggling to maintain high pressure/flow rate. I tried pumping air into the tank to maintain positive pressure but nothing seems to work
I would take a look at this video for more help but TL:DR is that when you make a pipe flow, the gas and liquid both need a place to go or they get stuck it filter ports and clog up the system. make sure the gas has a place to go as well as liquid. even if its just venting gas to atmosphere. ua-cam.com/video/D9e75DZGE7w/v-deo.htmlsi=J_bvKYUx24xwr8eo
@@archadeseng.corpsgaming I tried that. I had gas exit port and a gas entrance port in the tank. And the fluid was being pumped out to a hose anchor then out through a hose. I tried minicing your method the best I could for a single tank setup with no luck. I'll check out this other video when I get off work. I appreciate the quick and helpful response! If this doesn't work would you mind talking on discord and seeing if we can't figure this out there?
Dude, you’re my hero! I made a career tanker ship and bought 140,000 liters of diesel and when I went to go sell it I was only able to unload 7,000! I was so bummed because I spent all my money buying diesel and couldn’t sell it
yah I wanted to get my refinery going so spent getting it fixed, now just passing the info!
Thanks for the video, one thing i have found, if you pump a liquid at very high atm into a sell station you get less money than you should, i also observed this with fuel consumption if you relieve the pressure from your fuel tanks you get slightly less fuel consumption, only a few percent but it helps
No problem, I do what I can.
Thanks for sharing your experience and results with us. This is helpful to me in many ways, as I am sure it will be to others as well.
Of course, figured was a good time as I was finished Fixing my own stuff!
It seems kind of dumb, but I always make it a point to put manual relief systems on my bigger creations. Like in the case where tank 8 stalled due to 60 atm, I'd have a port with a gas valve with a directional flow valve to a manual hand valve out to a filter any other port just so I could keep it going. I know it's not practical for this test setup, but for a large ship, you do what you've got to.
This is really good stuff though. Probably one of the worst things in the game is oil tanking because it fills up all fine and dandy and then it takes an eternity to sell it all. I'm going to have to try the smaller tank trick on my builds from now on because it's painful to buy 80,000 l of crude oil and then have to reset 79,000 of it because it's not selling fast enough and a tsunami went and threw my tanker onto the refinery dock so now it's got a whole lot more issues. This is more of it's a painful time commitment than in game finances. I want a working system before I commit in career or classic.
Funniest part about tank 8 stopping was, I just thought about the idea of wanting to show what happens at a 60atm situation then bam! That happened XD
17:02 started making so much more sense
The fastest, yet most impractical, way of transferring liquids faster than how you're doing is to do it through those connecting hatches. If you make a kind of side tank that can swing out (I know the limitations on the rig build areas) that has a magnetic door hatch and you have one on the tanker, you connect them, open them up, there is technically nothing faster than a literal open hole like that. HOWEVER!!! It's probably one of the most impractical ways of doing things because the only way to get stuff around is by gravity dumping from one sealed container to a lower sealed container. Like in reality, that's what you use to scuttle ships fast (you use either doors or hatches) but you need the sealing connector ones to insure that you're not just dumping it all out into the desert floor. I don't know how pressure effects it in that case because the game will act like the liquid is flooding out of one hatch and the other one will act as if it's being flooded. Does pressure really play into that volume? I'm sure it does but then again, you'd be able to relief pressure fast with a hatch on top.
Do I know if this actually works with oil and diesel? No, not a clue. I only am speculating because I know it works with water and I figure if it works with fluid A, it should work with fluids B, C, D, and E.
I personally chock the docking doors as the same as custom door tank opening Ive done. My thoughts are this anything that is considered a "door" has a max flow rate base on size and pressure on Both sides.
Ive built a Nuclear Rod Cartridge system using the docking doors. once the they are connected i'm very certain game considers the cart just another volume on the craft. No radiation is released untill i break the connectors without proper doors closed.
On my storage tanks for my refinery i did find that if the "Door" for the drain tank is too small it cant flow and flow gets stunted. the Pumps Pulling the fluid from the tank were pulling faster than the door can let it in. fluid systems hate 0 atm just as much as 60 atm.
Bro this is so good. love your experiments!
Could you do an update video in regards to getting the best transfer rates going from and to buy and sell stations?
I have set up a oil liner with tanks that can transfer initially 500 l/s and obviously degrades over time but when I take it to a sell station, I get like 10 l/s. in both situations im filling the drain tanks with air but for some reason I have not been able to get good rates at the buy and sell stations. Would love your thoughts! Thanks again :)
Is the save you Doing the transfer on created before the Compressed Gases Update? if so the gantries will get gas lock from gas build up in the transfer.
if newer you should maybe try a gas return just before port sending back to tank to help maintain pressure.
how can i apply this to a fire apparatus. I'm struggling to maintain high pressure/flow rate. I tried pumping air into the tank to maintain positive pressure but nothing seems to work
I would take a look at this video for more help but TL:DR is that when you make a pipe flow, the gas and liquid both need a place to go or they get stuck it filter ports and clog up the system. make sure the gas has a place to go as well as liquid. even if its just venting gas to atmosphere.
ua-cam.com/video/D9e75DZGE7w/v-deo.htmlsi=J_bvKYUx24xwr8eo
@@archadeseng.corpsgaming I tried that. I had gas exit port and a gas entrance port in the tank. And the fluid was being pumped out to a hose anchor then out through a hose. I tried minicing your method the best I could for a single tank setup with no luck. I'll check out this other video when I get off work. I appreciate the quick and helpful response! If this doesn't work would you mind talking on discord and seeing if we can't figure this out there?
@@bigbonede6201 sure not a problem ill help where I can