Can we all take a minute to appreciate how good the main Bomberman theme is? Yeah, it debuted back in the NES game, but it really came to life here with the addition of the second verse. I'd honestly argue it's up there with the main Mario, Zelda, Bubble Bobble and Tetris themes as one of the most iconic and timeless tunes in gaming.
Finally, the Amiga got a respectable port of a Japanese console game. And I seem to remember it came bundled with a serial adapter to allow 4 joysticks to be connected. But lots of love for Hudsonsoft from us Amiga owners. Both Bonk (BC Kid)! And Yo! Joe! were awesome too.
Most of the Turbo games from that era had some janky box art for sure. Everyone makes fun of the NES Mega Man art (for good reason) but the Turbo box art was consistently crap.
It's like a history lessen came full circle! Thanks for showing the modern version, it really is neat to see the original versions and this for contrast.
@@SimianScience today is all about Bomberman 94 for me. And let me tell you, Hudson gimped the smd port. I would say they were developed concurrently, giving minimal effort to the smd port, evidenced by the jerky moving static object on otherwise static screens. Slowing down with like 5 things happening is not good programming. But what is most obvious is in the colour. The PC Engine game is one of the nicest looking 16bit games I've ever seen. All the way through it's a feast for the eyes from stage 1's lovely leaves throughout. On the smd version you are met with pretty much just a single coloured brown for the first 20 minutes. You are killed cruelly on the second stage, unlike the PCE original. After 20 minutes you are onto white (snow - the most boring and challenging to make not look just white theme in gaming). Then at 35 minutes you are met with _some_ nice violet colours. Then green-brown, then white again for the rest of the game. That is gimping on an epic scale. Then there is the SNES port. Not giving them a version, they got a basic single screen game with bad music. Then a few months later they put Bomberman Panic Bomber W falling block game with far superior music. So they are gimping all the other versions of this game, other than the original Japanese only PCE version.
PS if you're reading this, Mark, I found out how to get low res smd games work at 1:1 pixel / 8:7 aspect. You get 'Gens/GS' and turn off 'Stretch' in the Graphics menu.
Yayyyy!!!! Welcome back, Mark. My favorite UA-cam show on my Sunday morning. Never missed a Battle of the Ports. It's my go-to. As for Bomberman, the TurboGrafx 16 of Bomberman '94. I played it several times. Such a fun game
Proud owner of the PC-Engine version... still one of my favourite games for the system. Oh, and pro tip: don't bomb the exit squares, unless you like extra monsters chasing you. 😉
Something about at least the Amiga and ST ports, is if you had the adapter for Gauntlet II and a few other games, you could do FIVE-player battle mode. Two on the main ports, two on the printer port adapter, and a final player on the keypad. Plus, I think copies of Dynablaster had the adapter in it (least, my second-hand copy did).
Sven Appel who was the musician for the canned C64 version, speaking to GTW about it.. Sven tells GTW… “Well, i can tell you that this conversion was never released. I made the music conversion and lots of sprite graphics. The two player battle mode was almost finished. But the game was never released. We made it for Hudson Soft Germany. I don’t have any code left. Only musics and graphics.”
Game Sack is the equivalent to Mac and Cheese on a cold Fall afternoon. Straight comfort food for the senses. I love Game Sack. Been watching the channel almost since the creation of the channel. Excellent episode. Now i gotta download Bomberman Hero gor myself. Thanks Joe for driving up the cost of games
6:59 Wow at the game dev trolling the player really hard there. You sound like me on picking the best version cuz of the music. Final Fight CD, PC Engine's Monster Lair, 3DO's Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo, etc. are the best versions just cuz of the awesome music, IMO.
Factor 5 was a reputable developer with solid experience making platformers so were in their wheelhouse with Bonk, and while I don't want to sound rude Bomberman is a hard game to screw up (though it is possible, see: Act Zero.)
All three ports were done by Actionamics so my geuss is that Commodore gave Hudson Soft a payout with the agreement they'd purposely botch the other two versions.
@@mortenera2294 but then why would they give us three of the worst selling (and worst) home consoles within three years of each other, the C64 GS, CDTV and CD32? Commodore's leadership really went down the drain after the Amiga bombed in the states, didn't it?
@@diskyboy1990 The c64 GS was just a scheme to get rid of some old commodore 64 motherboards they had in a warehouse and couldn't sell. The CDTV was just a massive boondoggle. They thought they could get in on multimedia long before anyone else but the public wasn't interested in or ready for it yet. As for the CD 32 it was actually a pretty solid success at launch but a patent dispute over blinking cursors held up the North American launch and by the time that was resolved commodore was out of money.
' _Derivative_ work 1990 SystemSoft'. :-) Using that word reminds me of the early 80s, when it seemed as though every other home game was an unofficial clone of Galaxian, Pac-Man, etc. 7:17
Bomberman one of my favorite games. First time I played bomberman was the famicom version and still have my game copy. I did not played the one mentioned in the video, but I played the Super Famicom versions.
SystemSoft also did a nice PC-98 port of another Hudson PC Engine game, Nectaris. It's higher res than the original and all that good stuff, the X68k port is also good but is a lot more chunky imo.
It is. To think that the PC Engine was technically an 8 bit console with the power of a 16 bit console just boggles the mind. It was crazy advanced for its time
@@TheDumontShow PCE ('87) has a cpu which is a 6502 8bit core, just like the snes ('90). The 16bit register (mode on snes) has no use. it has a 16bit graphics unit (I think!). But the bus speed of the PCE is likely 7.1MB/s as opposed to 2.5MB/s. The external bus was changed to 8bit (like the snes) at the last minute, halving the available vram and wram. So the bitness of the PCE is roughly equal to the snes, but the performance is like 3-4 times greater.
@@TheDumontShow HudsonSoft developed the system in-house with a cpu and graphics system they designed with NEC manufacturing. Who dragged their feet for like 3 years getting it ready for production and laundered about $50m (in yen) for the rnd phase which Hudson had already done. These are 'facts'.
Amiga got good PC Engine games for sure. Also Amiga did not have a FM chip, but only samples, but may have been lowfi due memory, its still fine for this game. Multiplayer was very possible in that version as well But also there was a C64 version in work as well, but newer got finished and released. Its stated in the manual. lol.
Played this for years with my mates in the UK. We had it on PC Engine import. Bomberman 94 was the best version on the PC Engine. I haven't played a version of Bomberman better than that.
Not sure if it’s a different game, but I do remember Dyna-Blaster (Bomberman) from arcades by Irem. It looks and plays like this, but has powerups flooding everywhere and they only last for the current stage
It's a different game, and yeah, it's just like you say. The music on that one is quite odd, specially the menu one. The sequel (also by Irem) had odd music, and again the menu one is the weirdest one
The PCE original is hard to surpass. Bomber Man should've been the system mascot, imo. Bomberman GB on the Game Boy is really slick, too, though it's more of a sequel/spinoff than a true port of the original (still way better than the Famicom version).
Bomberman GB in Jp had versions that were packaged in small tins which was kinda neat. The first GB was released as a Wario game featuring Bomberman in N/A which is just an odd regional variation choice.
Possibly an unofficial remake or one that was never released? Edit: just looked it up. Samar Productions released a version of it on to the demo scene about 15 years after the Amiga version. Wish I'd known about that one.
At first ST was the lead platform with many Amiga titles being quick and dirty bad Atari ports, then it was the opposite with Atari ST getting downgraded Amiga ports when Amiga became the lead platform.
I've been way too excited waiting for this show. This game is the gold standard of Bomberman, the game that all future entries in the series need to live up to. my favorite is still the original PC Engine version, it still looks and sounds great now. Sharp X68000 comes in second, a near perfect port, but it looks a little stretched, don't you think? As for the western home computer ports, it would seem they were developed by a one off studio named Actionamics, this is the only game they've ever done. I'm guessing they were just the result of some collaboration between Hudson Soft and Ubisoft? Anyway, the Amiga port is great, I'd go as far as to say it's got one up on the PC Engine in the music department. MS-DOS is there, it does the job, but the Atari ST is comically bad. There's no reason it should look that much worse than the Amiga. It's almost like Commodore slipped Hudson and Ubisoft some fat checks with the agreement they'd purposely botch up the ST port. It would also seem an Atari LYNX port was in-development back in the day. It has the same Dyna Blaster name as the computer ports, and so far, only has it's title screen available online and it looks a bit rough have to say. I'm sure the LYNX could do this type of game well, in fact it can, Bombercats, a homebrew based on Bomberman, manages to fit as much on screen as the official ports while somehow not looking like complete turd. It always surprised me what the LYNX can do. I'd argue it's the only Atari system that is worth owning, as much as saying that might piss some off, but sorry, the 2600 is to put it bluntly, outdated, the 5200 was just bad, the 7800 had potential, and nowadays has a striving homebrew scene, but back in the day was a laughing joke compared to the Famicom or Master System, and the ST is just a worse Amiga, oh and the Jaguar, outside of Rayman, it's got nothing good. Never understood why there are so many passionate Jag fans who will defend the system like their life depends on it.
Dyna Blaster and Atomic Punk are for Bomberman what *Gryzor, Probotector & C* is for Contra: Names to avoid things related to human war. And both IP names are from Konami nowadays.
They didn't care at all with the ST version. I really wanted to like it because the game itself is great but the sluggish controls have you running into enemies and losing all your power-ups. There's very few cases where I died and it was my fault.
The reason why the Amiga, MS-DOS, and the Atari ST ports exist is because the PC Engine barely sold in Europe compared to US and Japan. Also, I didn't know there's the Sharp X68000 port of the PC Engine game...
The story around the pc engine in Europe and especially the UK is a weird one and not fully known. There's proper pal modified turbo grafxs that exist but idk the whole story. France was very popular with Japanese imports though.
The Turbografx-16 was planned to be officially released in Europe but these plans were cancelled thanks to poor sales in the US. NEC did produce some PAL units for a planned release, but they were liquidated through mail-order retailers.
well they exist because someone(ubisoft) got to snag the euro publishing rights. and they wanted to make it a little less terroristy. I don't think hudson coded them. anyway in recent years someone managed to trademark dynablaster name for themselves or bought it from someone who claimed to have it and have published a clone of bomberman under that name (this clone is not officially licensed bomberman, while the old amiga/dos games were officially licensed bomberman). to further confuse that game was supposed to launch on the amico.
A little surprising how different the Amiga and Atari ST versions are. Usually they're the same games with the same assets and just slightly different graphics and audio. So does "Super" come after "Modern?" And where does "Mega" fit in? 😁
In a game of this type, better quality music really will elevate one version over another, the X6800 version has better arrangements and sounds so much 'fuller'. The Atari ST does what the Atari ST does, it certainly can do some decent chip tunes but not this time.
System Soft worked on a Bomberman port? wow.. i only know them because of the Dai Senryaku series, in particular I started with 7 on the original xbox i found at a used game store a decade or more ago, and then tried others like the mega drive and psx ones.. other than that i know nothing about them
@@RetroCore I dunno I only ever played with on like 386 era stuff. frankly surprised it runs even sort of right on an xp era machine at all hah, though that means that it has to have some sort of speed compensation/slowdown routine built into it.
Pretty significantly different. The bosses are different/more elaborate, the stages are more varied looking (but not scrolling) and there's more powerups. But probably the biggest difference is that it has two player co-op.
The PC Engine was designed in 1983-5 by HudsonSoft and spent a further 3+ years in development with NEC. Hudson designed the system themselves and it's well over 4 times the power of the snes. But more importantly, the hardware is well designed (a late gimping notwithstanding). I strongly suspect the SNES is a fully 8bit machine whereas the PC Engine graphics chip is full 16bit.
Among the European computer ports, which soundtrack do you prefer? The Amiga port's direct arrangements of the original tracks, or the Atari ST's new tracks? EDIT: I didn't expect you'd say the DOS port sounds better than the Atari ST. The DOS port's soundtrack still consists of arrangements of the PC Engine version, and it's MUCH worse off than the Amiga. Like, zero redeeming tracks here, and they don't even play in the right worlds. For example, World 1 uses Stage BGM2 instead of BGM1, and World 2 uses the latter. Meanwhile the Atari ST's music actually sounds alright for the platform.
The Sharp X68000 and the PC Engine versions are very good! As for the European versions, there is one port I had to choose. And that's the Amiga port! Even though it only uses one fire button, and space as another, it runs very smooth like in a console game! The MS DOS version is okay, but I might have to say that the Atari ST is the worst port, because I knew it was going to be a stinker over the Amiga! It's not completely the worst, but the jerky movement is a pain in the bootie.
Can we all take a minute to appreciate how good the main Bomberman theme is? Yeah, it debuted back in the NES game, but it really came to life here with the addition of the second verse. I'd honestly argue it's up there with the main Mario, Zelda, Bubble Bobble and Tetris themes as one of the most iconic and timeless tunes in gaming.
Finally, the Amiga got a respectable port of a Japanese console game. And I seem to remember it came bundled with a serial adapter to allow 4 joysticks to be connected. But lots of love for Hudsonsoft from us Amiga owners. Both Bonk (BC Kid)! And Yo! Joe! were awesome too.
Rodland was another great port too!
I think another worthy mention should be OCEAN France unreleased ports of Snow Brothers and big water adventure or whatever it's called in English.
That Turbografx-16 cover is priceless
It sure has that American WTF were they thinking theme to it 😂
That was art
Most of the Turbo games from that era had some janky box art for sure. Everyone makes fun of the NES Mega Man art (for good reason) but the Turbo box art was consistently crap.
I love a channel where these are the “modern” versions.
It's like a history lessen came full circle! Thanks for showing the modern version, it really is neat to see the original versions and this for contrast.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good to see Eric finally get over his issue with the floaters
the tg16 port is beautiful on all fronts. music, sound, design. i love it
You mean the PC Engine original version?
@@iwanttocomplain yes. the name turbo grafx is ingrained on me
@@SimianScience I found a video that said it was the TGX but I think it must be the PCE version because wiki says no US release.
@@SimianScience today is all about Bomberman 94 for me. And let me tell you, Hudson gimped the smd port.
I would say they were developed concurrently, giving minimal effort to the smd port, evidenced by the jerky moving static object on otherwise static screens.
Slowing down with like 5 things happening is not good programming.
But what is most obvious is in the colour. The PC Engine game is one of the nicest looking 16bit games I've ever seen.
All the way through it's a feast for the eyes from stage 1's lovely leaves throughout.
On the smd version you are met with pretty much just a single coloured brown for the first 20 minutes.
You are killed cruelly on the second stage, unlike the PCE original.
After 20 minutes you are onto white (snow - the most boring and challenging to make not look just white theme in gaming).
Then at 35 minutes you are met with _some_ nice violet colours. Then green-brown, then white again for the rest of the game.
That is gimping on an epic scale.
Then there is the SNES port. Not giving them a version, they got a basic single screen game with bad music. Then a few months later they put Bomberman Panic Bomber W falling block game with far superior music.
So they are gimping all the other versions of this game, other than the original Japanese only PCE version.
PS if you're reading this, Mark, I found out how to get low res smd games work at 1:1 pixel / 8:7 aspect.
You get 'Gens/GS' and turn off 'Stretch' in the Graphics menu.
oh man, this is the game i grew up with! Hudson Soft masterpiece Bomberman
The Amiga entry was my first bomberman game
Nice one to start off with.
Awesome, wasn't expecting a Bomberman '90 video this soon! :)
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@RetroCoreI did! Though I did catch a small numbering error with the title just now - shouldn't this be 513?
the Amiga had incredible credits music.
Yayyyy!!!! Welcome back, Mark. My favorite UA-cam show on my Sunday morning. Never missed a Battle of the Ports. It's my go-to. As for Bomberman, the TurboGrafx 16 of Bomberman '94. I played it several times. Such a fun game
Proud owner of the PC-Engine version... still one of my favourite games for the system.
Oh, and pro tip: don't bomb the exit squares, unless you like extra monsters chasing you. 😉
Thank you
It was Factor 5 on the Amiga and an "in-house team" from Ubi Soft on the Atari ST. This explains many things.
It was? Well, if that is right, it sure does explain an awful lot 👍
"Eric and the floaters" 😅
Dynablaster was a better name i guess than that original one
I also enjoy the sharp x 68,000 music as well especially the third main theme when you get to the castle areas 6 and 8
Something about at least the Amiga and ST ports, is if you had the adapter for Gauntlet II and a few other games, you could do FIVE-player battle mode. Two on the main ports, two on the printer port adapter, and a final player on the keypad. Plus, I think copies of Dynablaster had the adapter in it (least, my second-hand copy did).
That's very true. Multipalyerwas very possible.
Magnificent for setting the stage of the franchise onwards
Let's a go! Love some Bomberman! Nice! 💣 👨🚀💣💥💥
Sven Appel who was the musician for the canned C64 version, speaking to GTW about it..
Sven tells GTW…
“Well, i can tell you that this conversion was never released. I made the music conversion and lots of sprite graphics. The two player battle mode was almost finished. But the game was never released. We made it for Hudson Soft Germany. I don’t have any code left. Only musics and graphics.”
Game Sack is the equivalent to Mac and Cheese on a cold Fall afternoon. Straight comfort food for the senses. I love Game Sack. Been watching the channel almost since the creation of the channel. Excellent episode. Now i gotta download Bomberman Hero gor myself. Thanks Joe for driving up the cost of games
6:59 Wow at the game dev trolling the player really hard there. You sound like me on picking the best version cuz of the music. Final Fight CD, PC Engine's Monster Lair, 3DO's Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo, etc. are the best versions just cuz of the awesome music, IMO.
Damn, both Bonk and Bomberman have really good Amiga ports! I dunno what happened but Hudson Soft got lucky there
Factor 5 was a reputable developer with solid experience making platformers so were in their wheelhouse with Bonk, and while I don't want to sound rude Bomberman is a hard game to screw up (though it is possible, see: Act Zero.)
I do love the Amiga version and how good the Amiga music is in this game.
Played Amiga version a lot with my late dad :) Wonder why both ST and PC went with original soundtrack?
🤷I can't think a good reason for not trying
All three ports were done by Actionamics so my geuss is that Commodore gave Hudson Soft a payout with the agreement they'd purposely botch the other two versions.
@@diskyboy1990 Trust me, Commodore didn't give a shit about videogames at that point in time
@@mortenera2294 but then why would they give us three of the worst selling (and worst) home consoles within three years of each other, the C64 GS, CDTV and CD32? Commodore's leadership really went down the drain after the Amiga bombed in the states, didn't it?
@@diskyboy1990 The c64 GS was just a scheme to get rid of some old commodore 64 motherboards they had in a warehouse and couldn't sell. The CDTV was just a massive boondoggle. They thought they could get in on multimedia long before anyone else but the public wasn't interested in or ready for it yet. As for the CD 32 it was actually a pretty solid success at launch but a patent dispute over blinking cursors held up the North American launch and by the time that was resolved commodore was out of money.
' _Derivative_ work 1990 SystemSoft'. :-) Using that word reminds me of the early 80s, when it seemed as though every other home game was an unofficial clone of Galaxian, Pac-Man, etc. 7:17
Anything Bomberman is A-Okay with me Mark. Personally, My favorite is Neo Bomberman. Still enjoy playing after all these years. 8^)
Anthony..
Bomberman one of my favorite games. First time I played bomberman was the famicom version and still have my game copy. I did not played the one mentioned in the video, but I played the Super Famicom versions.
SystemSoft also did a nice PC-98 port of another Hudson PC Engine game, Nectaris. It's higher res than the original and all that good stuff, the X68k port is also good but is a lot more chunky imo.
Thanks for the info!
The Amiga version also had some new music which was great
that PCE soundchip is just so lush
Yeah I only recently understood how good it is. 6bit wavetable it's nice.
It's such an underrated sounding console, some of my favourite chip tunes are PCE ones 😎👍
It is. To think that the PC Engine was technically an 8 bit console with the power of a 16 bit console just boggles the mind. It was crazy advanced for its time
@@TheDumontShow PCE ('87) has a cpu which is a 6502 8bit core, just like the snes ('90).
The 16bit register (mode on snes) has no use. it has a 16bit graphics unit (I think!).
But the bus speed of the PCE is likely 7.1MB/s as opposed to 2.5MB/s.
The external bus was changed to 8bit (like the snes) at the last minute, halving the available vram and wram.
So the bitness of the PCE is roughly equal to the snes, but the performance is like 3-4 times greater.
@@TheDumontShow HudsonSoft developed the system in-house with a cpu and graphics system they designed with NEC manufacturing. Who dragged their feet for like 3 years getting it ready for production and laundered about $50m (in yen) for the rnd phase which Hudson had already done. These are 'facts'.
I always played the NES version but definitely I would love to try both PC Engine & X68000 versions
Bomberman is still one of the best multiplayer games ever made
Brutal comparison.
Love the bomberman series! My first bomberman game was Wario Blast on the OG Gameboy 💣
Amiga got good PC Engine games for sure. Also Amiga did not have a FM chip, but only samples, but may have been lowfi due memory, its still fine for this game. Multiplayer was very possible in that version as well But also there was a C64 version in work as well, but newer got finished and released. Its stated in the manual. lol.
Played this for years with my mates in the UK. We had it on PC Engine import. Bomberman 94 was the best version on the PC Engine. I haven't played a version of Bomberman better than that.
Nice:)
Wish someone would rip the music of the Atari ST port, its all original
Greay video !!!
Not sure if it’s a different game, but I do remember Dyna-Blaster (Bomberman) from arcades by Irem.
It looks and plays like this, but has powerups flooding everywhere and they only last for the current stage
It's a different game, and yeah, it's just like you say. The music on that one is quite odd, specially the menu one. The sequel (also by Irem) had odd music, and again the menu one is the weirdest one
The PCE original is hard to surpass. Bomber Man should've been the system mascot, imo. Bomberman GB on the Game Boy is really slick, too, though it's more of a sequel/spinoff than a true port of the original (still way better than the Famicom version).
Bomberman GB in Jp had versions that were packaged in small tins which was kinda neat. The first GB was released as a Wario game featuring Bomberman in N/A which is just an odd regional variation choice.
I think there was also a C64 version of Dyna Blaster. I had a demo of it from a magazine cover tape.
Possibly an unofficial remake or one that was never released?
Edit: just looked it up. Samar Productions released a version of it on to the demo scene about 15 years after the Amiga version.
Wish I'd known about that one.
It's a shame that it seems like the ST got the short end a bit too often.
At first ST was the lead platform with many Amiga titles being quick and dirty bad Atari ports, then it was the opposite with Atari ST getting downgraded Amiga ports when Amiga became the lead platform.
I've been way too excited waiting for this show. This game is the gold standard of Bomberman, the game that all future entries in the series need to live up to. my favorite is still the original PC Engine version, it still looks and sounds great now. Sharp X68000 comes in second, a near perfect port, but it looks a little stretched, don't you think? As for the western home computer ports, it would seem they were developed by a one off studio named Actionamics, this is the only game they've ever done. I'm guessing they were just the result of some collaboration between Hudson Soft and Ubisoft? Anyway, the Amiga port is great, I'd go as far as to say it's got one up on the PC Engine in the music department. MS-DOS is there, it does the job, but the Atari ST is comically bad. There's no reason it should look that much worse than the Amiga. It's almost like Commodore slipped Hudson and Ubisoft some fat checks with the agreement they'd purposely botch up the ST port.
It would also seem an Atari LYNX port was in-development back in the day. It has the same Dyna Blaster name as the computer ports, and so far, only has it's title screen available online and it looks a bit rough have to say. I'm sure the LYNX could do this type of game well, in fact it can, Bombercats, a homebrew based on Bomberman, manages to fit as much on screen as the official ports while somehow not looking like complete turd. It always surprised me what the LYNX can do. I'd argue it's the only Atari system that is worth owning, as much as saying that might piss some off, but sorry, the 2600 is to put it bluntly, outdated, the 5200 was just bad, the 7800 had potential, and nowadays has a striving homebrew scene, but back in the day was a laughing joke compared to the Famicom or Master System, and the ST is just a worse Amiga, oh and the Jaguar, outside of Rayman, it's got nothing good. Never understood why there are so many passionate Jag fans who will defend the system like their life depends on it.
I had never seen the computer ports, love to see the weird ports! As usual the japanese computer port is by far the best!
As is the case 99% of the time 👍
Dyna Blaster and Atomic Punk are for Bomberman what *Gryzor, Probotector & C* is for Contra: Names to avoid things related to human war. And both IP names are from Konami nowadays.
They didn't care at all with the ST version. I really wanted to like it because the game itself is great but the sluggish controls have you running into enemies and losing all your power-ups. There's very few cases where I died and it was my fault.
Well at least he's not being decapitated anymore...
TurboGrafx-16/PC Engine is arguably the best port for me.
Technically it's the original👍. But yeah, a great game of bomberman.
It would be nice if someone made a PC Engine CD homebrew port, with features based on the SharpX68000 version.
Top Tip, if you want your version to sound like the Amiga version, just put large pillows over your speakers.
Lol, harsh but ultimately very true.
The reason why the Amiga, MS-DOS, and the Atari ST ports exist is because the PC Engine barely sold in Europe compared to US and Japan.
Also, I didn't know there's the Sharp X68000 port of the PC Engine game...
The story around the pc engine in Europe and especially the UK is a weird one and not fully known. There's proper pal modified turbo grafxs that exist but idk the whole story. France was very popular with Japanese imports though.
The Turbografx-16 was planned to be officially released in Europe but these plans were cancelled thanks to poor sales in the US. NEC did produce some PAL units for a planned release, but they were liquidated through mail-order retailers.
well they exist because someone(ubisoft) got to snag the euro publishing rights. and they wanted to make it a little less terroristy. I don't think hudson coded them.
anyway in recent years someone managed to trademark dynablaster name for themselves or bought it from someone who claimed to have it and have published a clone of bomberman under that name (this clone is not officially licensed bomberman, while the old amiga/dos games were officially licensed bomberman). to further confuse that game was supposed to launch on the amico.
I'm hungry hungry hippo for 2D Bomberman!!!!!!!
A little surprising how different the Amiga and Atari ST versions are. Usually they're the same games with the same assets and just slightly different graphics and audio.
So does "Super" come after "Modern?" And where does "Mega" fit in? 😁
In a game of this type, better quality music really will elevate one version over another, the X6800 version has better arrangements and sounds so much 'fuller'. The Atari ST does what the Atari ST does, it certainly can do some decent chip tunes but not this time.
That's the Mega Drive FM chip with 2 additional channels and better dac. The Atari ST can be really cool driving the PSG sound.
(c)1990,2024 Konami.
i'm gonna be nitpicky and shitty but shouldnt the x68k version squish the screen signal to a more square aspect?
I think it looks nicer as to me the PC Engine version looks squashed.
System Soft worked on a Bomberman port? wow.. i only know them because of the Dai Senryaku series, in particular I started with 7 on the original xbox i found at a used game store a decade or more ago, and then tried others like the mega drive and psx ones.. other than that i know nothing about them
Yeah, they did a few action games from time to time.
@@RetroCore didnt know.. are you gonna do anymore of your retrocore shows about consoles or game genres?
I wrongly thought SNES version were related to this one😮😮😮
It's quite a different game but at first look, sure it can easily be mistaken for the same game.
I had Dynablaster on the Gameboy. I’m sure it was Bomberman with a different name.
It absolutely was. On USA, it was renamed to Atomic Punk (dunno why), and in Japan it was Bomber Boy
Yep, that's based upon the original Bomberman that I covered in the previous video. I think I had covered the US version, Atomic Punk.
Any chance of comparing the: Populous, SimCity, Wolfenstein 3D, Iron Lord, or Mig-29 Fulcrum ports?
Wolfenstine 3D I did quite some time ago.
The others are currently on the list of future titles to cover.
what did you run the dynablaster dos on? it looks a bit slow from memory
An old Win XP laptop. Could be a memory issue.
@@RetroCore I dunno I only ever played with on like 386 era stuff. frankly surprised it runs even sort of right on an xp era machine at all hah, though that means that it has to have some sort of speed compensation/slowdown routine built into it.
Was Super Bonberman on the SFam different?
Pretty significantly different. The bosses are different/more elaborate, the stages are more varied looking (but not scrolling) and there's more powerups. But probably the biggest difference is that it has two player co-op.
@@espfusion Thanks mate.
Make one for Donkey Kong Jr.
The PC Engine was designed in 1983-5 by HudsonSoft and spent a further 3+ years in development with NEC. Hudson designed the system themselves and it's well over 4 times the power of the snes. But more importantly, the hardware is well designed (a late gimping notwithstanding).
I strongly suspect the SNES is a fully 8bit machine whereas the PC Engine graphics chip is full 16bit.
Let's not get in to this. The PC Engine is 8 bit, plain and simple. Bits are decided by the CPU, not the GPU.
@@RetroCore in that case, the SNES is 8bit.
@@RetroCore Because the 16bit values are not useable. I'm pouring through tables and schematics as we speak trying to understand the snes.
The amount of limitations and awkwardness in the design is insane. Things I found only in the last few hours are blowing my mind.
@@RetroCore Nothing you know about the snes is right.
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Can you make a video on International superstar deluxe?
Maybe. Aren't there just two versions of that?
@@RetroCore the deluxe version was released on SNES, Mega Drive and PS1 (!).
Its not every day that you get to go "Look at how great the Amiga version turned out!"
Indeed. It is a rare occurrence.
I always forget Bomberman suppose to be like Mega Man or Rockman, just a Robot not some weird alien race who love blow everything.
Among the European computer ports, which soundtrack do you prefer? The Amiga port's direct arrangements of the original tracks, or the Atari ST's new tracks?
EDIT: I didn't expect you'd say the DOS port sounds better than the Atari ST. The DOS port's soundtrack still consists of arrangements of the PC Engine version, and it's MUCH worse off than the Amiga. Like, zero redeeming tracks here, and they don't even play in the right worlds. For example, World 1 uses Stage BGM2 instead of BGM1, and World 2 uses the latter.
Meanwhile the Atari ST's music actually sounds alright for the platform.
I think the tunes in the ST version are pretty poor. But that's basically because they don't resemble bomberman.
@@RetroCore I'd still take that over a complete butchery of the original compositions. Or the Amiga port's added credits theme, for that matter.
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I never knew there was a ST version. Shame it's such a bad port, the ST could do way better.
The Sharp X68000 and the PC Engine versions are very good!
As for the European versions, there is one port I had to choose. And that's the Amiga port! Even though it only uses one fire button, and space as another, it runs very smooth like in a console game! The MS DOS version is okay, but I might have to say that the Atari ST is the worst port, because I knew it was going to be a stinker over the Amiga! It's not completely the worst, but the jerky movement is a pain in the bootie.
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The Playstation version was decent - the main reason to own a multitap IMO!