RTA Tierlist Update: ML HASTE VS ML SENYA BEGINNING OF CONTENTION SEASON! [Epic seven]

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  • Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
  • BMH Haste vs DB Senya showdown!!
    Who is going to be the strongest till the end?!
    Some in depth analysis for the best and new picks for RTA!
    What do you think? Feel free to comment down bellow your experiences!
    #epicseven #rta #tierlist
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 68

  • @Brandon-st5kd
    @Brandon-st5kd 4 місяці тому +3

    appreciate all the youtube content! usually at work during stream 🙁

  • @kaiyuant3864
    @kaiyuant3864 4 місяці тому +16

    surprised DJB is so low. With peira, ml haste, ml senya and protection sets, you'd think barrier inversion and 3 turn immunity would be placed higher.

    • @pinguthepooh6550
      @pinguthepooh6550 4 місяці тому +1

      He's overall not well suited to the meta for the moment imho, he doesn't offer much apart from S2 --> S3 and building him well enough for him to do his job well requires insane gear in Champion+
      You need to have him very fast for most situations, with as much Bulk and ER% as you can or you will end up easily controlled / killed, he's a fairly difficult character to gear and find a neat situation for
      He might have a resurgence tho who knows, it's true that barriers are very common rn

    • @ieue_a8802
      @ieue_a8802 4 місяці тому +1

      Djb is one of those units that's easy to use on paper, but hard to use in practice. I tested djb many times against bride and bmh drafts but always felt he was a waste of a pick(he's too passive if no barriers), and the barrier inversion was not quite as useful as I'd imagine. Also, injury is just straight up better than barrier inversion; less hp = less barrier. If s2 inflicted injuries after barrier inversion tho 👀 I dont agree that with you saying elvemage putting djb too low because I think he really underestimates djb because the meta is just too aggro, no picks to spare for djb.
      Tldr: djb not a real unit in the meta

    • @Elvemage59
      @Elvemage59  4 місяці тому +5

      usually djb just dies. haste and senya barrier only happen after you do dmg to their team and then they can nuke your team making the timing to barrier invert really really hard to use

    • @kaiyuant3864
      @kaiyuant3864 4 місяці тому

      @@Elvemage59 I typically build him slow counter tanky on WO, his inbuilt albedo passive makes him deceptively tanky. (and the surprise push up when ppl try to nuke him has won me quite a few games)

  • @rufusxavier7994
    @rufusxavier7994 4 місяці тому +3

    This is NOT my season, I am not HIM. No BMH and no Senya I’m dooooooomed. Great vid elve

  • @phibu7517
    @phibu7517 4 місяці тому +28

    i really dislike the rampant power creep in the last 6 months. if you don't whale out for the recent ml5 you are at least 1 step behind.
    i wish we would get rgb units that could check the SSS tier in one way or another, but the only checks are other recent ml5s.
    coming from a middle-of-the-road player

    • @Lappland23
      @Lappland23 4 місяці тому +5

      We have 4 strongest units in the last 1.5 months. So it's even worse. And rgb jenua doesn't solve the problem, but synergies with others 3 ml5s.

    • @Jibblesssss
      @Jibblesssss 4 місяці тому +2

      Because the game is dying, they're just releasing broken units b2b2b whilst rushing limiteds out to milk the playerbase for the last bit of money they can before announcing end of service

    • @eekajmoneybaby9309
      @eekajmoneybaby9309 4 місяці тому

      I disagree

  • @ditokelio7860
    @ditokelio7860 4 місяці тому +3

    I think shaltear real value comes from no extra turn or non attack skills.
    Those are always the things that used to stop me 1 shotting Adin

  • @zatoukung8267
    @zatoukung8267 4 місяці тому +3

    Good to see my fav unit ML Senya being SSS

  • @Louis_Von_Aegir
    @Louis_Von_Aegir 4 місяці тому +1

    Great tierlist thanks for the video, just curious about what should be the stats for a ER Jenua?

    • @Elvemage59
      @Elvemage59  4 місяці тому +1

      around 12k mcd with torrent, 150+ speed 150+ er, i like it a lot but its hard to build

  • @OmegaZyklon
    @OmegaZyklon 4 місяці тому +1

    What speed/att/cdmg/eff is Briseria typically geared at now? I'm not sure if she's a fast effective debuffer, or a slower aoe dps, or something in between.

    • @Elvemage59
      @Elvemage59  4 місяці тому

      mine is something in between, you can check all my stats on my discord or my unit video on youtube! mine 235 speed 110 eff and rest dmg

  • @ditokelio7860
    @ditokelio7860 4 місяці тому +1

    Still hoping on an A Coli buff 😪
    Start stealth, even for 1 turn.
    Strip before stun on s3 or remove stun and give her something else like 30% def pen or auto crit on soulburn.
    Even just swap stun for a strip i would be happy for them Candy teams

  • @Teamscrapshark
    @Teamscrapshark 4 місяці тому +2

    Trying to decide whether to pity bride senya wait for the new episode 5 boss. Do you think it would be troll to skip senya for an aggro/cleave player?

    • @harrys2331
      @harrys2331 4 місяці тому

      Not op but yes. As he’s saying, I’m in champion and every game ml senya and ml haste are traded first picks.

    • @randomnobody9229
      @randomnobody9229 4 місяці тому

      Senya works really well in cleave so I think you would be trolling yourself.

    • @shikamaka86
      @shikamaka86 4 місяці тому

      Even as an aggro cleave player you need an achor. You can not full cleave in current meta, they play jenua senya bmh you die painfully.

  • @xin4177
    @xin4177 2 місяці тому

    The best

  • @Ruicyte
    @Ruicyte 4 місяці тому +1

    Summer Break Charlotte underrated in cleave, invest in sharklotte stonks this season.

  • @teddylopez4070
    @teddylopez4070 4 місяці тому +1

    If I dont have Candy, Ayufine, or ML Poli do I pick up bmh or dbs? Like I really need to know bc I do not know

    • @Elvemage59
      @Elvemage59  4 місяці тому +1

      i think bmh. or pity senya and try ur luck on bmh

  • @OmegaZyklon
    @OmegaZyklon 4 місяці тому +1

    Excellent explanations, thanks.

  • @jinggahipt7224
    @jinggahipt7224 4 місяці тому +1

    How about ruele of light, is she still good on rta, what tim for her? I have her , but i confused to bring combo tim with her:(

    • @Elvemage59
      @Elvemage59  4 місяці тому

      usable but to weak to debuffs and units like laia

    • @jinggahipt7224
      @jinggahipt7224 4 місяці тому

      @@Elvemage59yes i agree and she weak agains injury skill hero

  • @shepherd9246
    @shepherd9246 4 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for your insight

  • @eekajmoneybaby9309
    @eekajmoneybaby9309 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm just gonna keep using eligos and fumyr to stunt on any meta

    • @Elvemage59
      @Elvemage59  4 місяці тому

      sounds like a great plan! fumyr is still really really good

  • @NatureFactsDesk
    @NatureFactsDesk 4 місяці тому +1

    So, if I wanna use Albedo for RTA protection set is probably my best bet?

    • @Elvemage59
      @Elvemage59  4 місяці тому +1

      or like counter 3f with some dmg

  • @Living_Target
    @Living_Target 4 місяці тому +1

    Doesn't brigette counter haste, senya, and Jenua by stopping S2 procs with bind, and providing unclensable unbuffable?

    • @randomnobody9229
      @randomnobody9229 4 місяці тому

      Her block doesn't prevent self-cleanse, and just because back row won't be cleansed does not mean that senya can't nuke you. In theory she sounds okay, but she really is not good. Also, bind does not seal passives it only prevents counter attacks. Jenua cleanses out of that debuff, and ml haste is unaffected. bind is not seal.

    • @Living_Target
      @Living_Target 4 місяці тому

      @@randomnobody9229 none of the 3 I mentioned can self cleanse especially Jenua because it's the product of his S2.
      It doesn't stop passives but it should stop procs IE Jenua gets his push but not Plan A specifically.
      Senya shouldn't be able to activate Bridal Training or whatever even if she still gets some S2 benefits.
      I guess she's just somewhat overshadowed by Nahkwol with Celine running around.

    • @randomnobody9229
      @randomnobody9229 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Living_Target The cleanse activates before bridal prayer is triggered on ML Senya, I own her and she works great against Nahkwol. Haste is so good he doesn't really care about the debuff. You are right about Jenua cleanse though.

    • @Living_Target
      @Living_Target 4 місяці тому

      @@randomnobody9229 how shortsighted from the balance team on senya imo

  • @CanyouTheMan
    @CanyouTheMan 4 місяці тому +12

    Watching MLSenya wipe out my entire full health team when she was the last opponent left made me not want to play RTA anymore.
    At the very least, I'm gonna take a break. That really broke my spirit.

    • @SakaiSenpai
      @SakaiSenpai 4 місяці тому +9

      Such a cap coment Yufine and Landy did the same in their time shining.

    • @DeRizzlo
      @DeRizzlo 4 місяці тому +1

      Smilegate loves giving tanks 1million damage, just like irl tanks

  • @snix7613
    @snix7613 4 місяці тому +1

    ML Celine B tier?
    O_o
    Thought she'd be a couple tiers higher.

  • @DanielSchott-zu1th
    @DanielSchott-zu1th 4 місяці тому +3

    Would you consider rating ML Choux higher because of the many HP scaling units in SSS and SS? Or does she not actually counter those units? I dont have her, so I dont know :D

    • @Rohit-om3yz
      @Rohit-om3yz 4 місяці тому +4

      Issue with shoux is she has nothing besides that. So your team needs to essentially provide the rest of utility to protect her, make sure she is not cc'd , make sure she gets turns etc etc. which is hard to do in a draft setting. Secondly she has to spend a lot of time targeting one unit. Like she needs 3 turns of hers to get the kill which naturally would be 3 full cycles and thats a very long time in rta. A lot of matches would start to end by that because of all the speed and nuke potential in rta.

    • @saltyluna3712
      @saltyluna3712 4 місяці тому

      One word unbuffable

    • @germainmatthews7780
      @germainmatthews7780 4 місяці тому

      @@Rohit-om3yzshe does give your whole team spd buff, can‘t agree with her not having anything other than injury, because it‘s simply not true, she does offer quite a lot of dmg all around, if she is fast enough, the speed buff is a super strong utility for a lot of other units or comps, so yeah she‘s definetly not as useless as you just tried to place her

    • @Rohit-om3yz
      @Rohit-om3yz 4 місяці тому +1

      @@germainmatthews7780 Argue with her not being higher against elve then. Not me 👍.

    • @germainmatthews7780
      @germainmatthews7780 4 місяці тому

      Elve literally said the best injury unit in the game, i don‘t see anything wrong with that, not worth arguing about because i do not disagree with him😂 i just disagreed with what you said, that‘s why i replied too you. No hard feelings or anything involved😅

  • @林子傑-t1h
    @林子傑-t1h 4 місяці тому +1

    Love ur video

  • @Peter-eq9qf
    @Peter-eq9qf 4 місяці тому +1

    ML haste changes is FR insane! Makes her from an unusable to "if you don't have it, you'll have to suck it up" hero

  • @R3G3N3RATE
    @R3G3N3RATE 4 місяці тому +2

    You missed Ras in SS tier

    • @TheSayanox
      @TheSayanox 4 місяці тому

      Aras so good with new protect pick

    • @Elvemage59
      @Elvemage59  4 місяці тому

      kinda amazing how a knight with so much utility is not good!

    • @R3G3N3RATE
      @R3G3N3RATE 4 місяці тому

      @@Elvemage59 3rd pick ras is OP. Stream confirmed

  • @zechskurosaki9912
    @zechskurosaki9912 4 місяці тому +2

    First! ….This feels weird

  • @looots1320
    @looots1320 4 місяці тому +2

    Shouldnt Spec tet be used more often now? with Haste and Senya on meta how tf they gonna beat Tene being protected and revived if opponent doesnt have Briseria?

    • @NguyenLe-ep9xy
      @NguyenLe-ep9xy 4 місяці тому

      Ml senya can cleanse and aoe if she has oath buff, spec tene can't live 1 senya s3 :v other than splash dmg and aoe user like yufine and landy it hard to use her like before

    • @Elvemage59
      @Elvemage59  4 місяці тому

      there is to much aoe and senya just one shots her. even then most drafts can out tempo stene

    • @looots1320
      @looots1320 4 місяці тому

      @@Elvemage59 I meant tene+haste+senya, tene protected?

    • @Elvemage59
      @Elvemage59  4 місяці тому +1

      @@looots1320 yeah ofc that works, but thats assuming you have both senya and haste

  • @49262625
    @49262625 4 місяці тому +1

    OPsig is on B tier 😅