Yeah, this is suchh a big problem in Yugioh, but then few days later you'll see the same people who complained about it on social media bought out tons of boxes to find those rarity bumped cards. Wow, what a fun future this game is having 😂😂😂
Guaranteed, stores would get in hot water if they hosted locals and allowed proxies. A potential solution is that the community takes more ownership of unofficial tournaments. This could: 1) enable proxies as these would not officially be sponsored by said store 2) enable unofficial banlists agreed upon by said community to help enhance variety/compensate for perceived weaknesses in the official banlists Obviously execution of the above is complex, but there is no use in waiting for Konami to change as it has more or less the same way since I’ve been playing.
let’s just adopt the OCG’s rarity system. this solution won’t fix the power creep but it would help fix the financial strain this game’s meta puts on the player base.
To clarify, MTG does not allow proxies in tournament. People use them in cEDH (competitive commander) where optimized decks are tens of thousands of dollars
Returning player perspective on the game situation. I started playing yugi November 2023 after more than 9 years away from the game. I attended every tournament at my LGS in order to start understanding the game back again, with no real card pool and a Traptrix deck (switched to Fire King later) hoping it to be enough to withstand decks even at lgs level. I'll cut it short, it went BAD: at a lgs, I found Kashtira, Tearlaments, Branded Despia etc. build like they were going to a main event, people where nice but having each play negated was so frustrating, I was doing 100km just to not being able to play (for real). I sticked to the game, used Omega to learn what deck does and started following Yugi content creators to study the game and future sets, the only issue was (still is tbh) that I don't have that much money to invest in this game in order to be competitive (not talking nationals or YCS, I'm talking competitive at lgs), I was able to buy most staples but not having a card pool to start with it's EXPENSIVE. Long story short, in months I barely won a couple of games (not rounds, games). I'm not crazy skilled, I got better ofc, but even so without a decent amount of money this game is unplayable (quite literally thanks to HT) and I say it coming from OP, sure OP it's gotten expensive since its release but at least I can play my cards with a cheap deck and I was able to pull out some victory at LGS and online events for a fraction of the cost. Want to talk about Pokémon? Competitive decks for Pokémon are laughably cheap and if you buy sealed products you have the same product available in the online game for free in order to practice on an official tool, yugi could do the same for MD to be honest, that would be a plus. I'll stick to yugi for a while even if the game isn't that fun right now since I found it really cool the Plant deck Jess used at UK Nationals (not crazy expensive but still) and the people is cool and funny, but in the meanwhile I think I'll start to get in touch with the OP community yeat again and give Pokémon a shot, for the price of a competitive Yugi deck I can build multiple decks for these 2 TCGs and have fun with more people. So yeah, to sum it up I think yugi has a price problem (proxy might be a solutions but It'd be enough to mimic the OCG's policies, with cheaper and more available cards AND SCHEDULED BANLIST LIKE THEY ALREADY DO IN OCG) but also a design problem, making more and more cards that allow 1 card combo and prevent your oppo from playing the actual game (like puppet lock) are the main problems of yugi, for me at least. Fun fact, most of yugi problems are in tcg, ocg is a completely different game, is healtier as a competitive scene and cheaper, leaving alone FUNNIER. (sorry for bad english, I tried my best)
Just the TCG. And mostly cause of the business/selling side of the TCG. If everyone can play this new engine, there won't be an issue, but because the new engine is not that accessible, that is when it becomes a problem.
@@BGLoscarbut even if everyone had access to this engine, if every deck needed to play the same thing to be viable, that means your game is poorly developed and borring.
For the life of me I don't understand why they can't do what Pokémon and Magic do and just print multiple rarities for cards to keep second hand prices down to an extent. Like if you want the shiny ultra super duper rare then you can pay for that but there should always be a budget version of a card as well
You want some good? Between rarity collection 1 and 2, I as a budget player was able to get a full suit of hand traps, board breakers, and even a playset of prosperity. Two years ago, that wouldn't have been possible.
Early gang wya? The biggest problem is that Konami releases new [broken] stuff that goes for insane prices, then bans/limits the same stuff a couple of months later. Like, can you release something that's actually BALANCED?
No matter how many problems arise Yu-Gi-Oh players just put up with everything That's why things only continue to get worse I don't care what people say how many rarity collections or reprint sets happen it's got into a point where one card combo decks lack of proper ban lists and just horrible design on cards and in packs is just going to continue being a problem
I wish all sets were like the rarity collection sets, rather than having 5-7 raritys in a single set even 2-3 would be good. Expensive cards could still be expensive through their rarity but cheaper versions would be available for those who just want to play the game.
@UnknownOwl65 I guess I'm nobody then since the Fusion stuff getting the reprints helped me out, also a lot of my friends are nostalgic casuals who wanted the Blue-Eyes, Red-Eyes, and Dark Magician reprints more than anything and will not play anything besides those three Decks because "they're the main Decks", not even other Decks from/based on the DM anime such as Chimera, ABCVWXYZ, and Flame Swordsman.
That's kind of what Pokemon does. You have for instance your rare ex pokemon or uncommon supporter cards and then you have full arts or alt arts. If Yu-Gi-Oh did this... It'd work. They'd still get money while putting staples on everybody's hands... But well.. we're talking Konami here.
@@jorgeabaezp9365 that would have been great! I heard with pokemon you can even build competitive decks under 100 which is kinda unheard of for Yugioh outside of just structure deck formats.
Rarity collection 2 , Dragon Master Magia, the infamous "ask your friend," incident, and now a new overpriced must play engine for the fifth time over $300 really shows how much Konami hates us. Especially us old players who use the game as an escape to better times, now a lot of us have bills to pay, mouths to feed, not to mention a game that doesn't even provide proper prizing( doesn't have to be money,but quality prize support you see in Locorna is a prime example.)Either they need to get in touch with their player base or find new management that cares about the player base, rather than scalping us for our nostalgia .
@@kokuzogarduno3412Trident dragion hadn't been reprinted in like a decade and instead of reprinting it they released a video talking about tenpai that literally said "ask your friend to borrow a copy"
I think one of the main problems with yugioh is that, since it’s been around for so long, newer cards will always outclass older cards. I’ve been playing yugioh for 5-10 years now, and it’s sad to see that every game I play is the same. What I mean is every game is about 3 turns max. I miss when games would go on for 10 turns playing inzektors or whatever I was playing back then. The problem Yugioh has advanced so much that we can’t go back to that old style of long games, which I personally like. I liked knowing the outcome of a game on turn 8, unlike now, you would know the outcome of the game without even placing a card down. Anyway, as I mentioned, Yugioh has advanced so much that the Meta is always changing. Yugioh is awesome and to see new card types and abilities as well as support for older archetypes is really cool, but that’s the issue, that it changes. It's ok that it changes as this is a very meta based game, but it's crazy how cards like Baronne De Fleur existed which can just stop you totally from playing anything. You can play yugioh on a budget, but only to a certain extent. You can build a deck for 50 dollars that can attempt to compete with these top mega decks, which is still a lot, but then 3 months later it’s like 30 cents. I think a way to start to solve this issue is to, as what you said, implement new or old formats. Such as an only gx cards format or only cards from 2005 and below can be played, etc… and it should be popularized in master duel, tournaments, nationals, etc… I would love to play wacky cards such as U. A or skull servant or whatever it may be. The big thing I like that magic does that yugioh doesn’t is the addition of so many formats. There is pauper, which is just a common card only format, only making the most “expensive” and meta deck in the entire game 50 dollars at MOST. There’s a commander format where you can play with lots of friends. There's also still standard, modern, etc…. There's a format for everyone and what they wanna play. Yugioh has established themselves as a staple in the trading card community as it's been here for 20+ years. It's not going away anytime soon, and there's thousands of cards out there that I've never even have heard of and still wanna try! With the implementation of new formats I could have the ability to learn about new and wacky mechanics. However, the sad thing is, we did try this with speed duel and it failed. I never even attempted to get into that format, not because the idea wasn’t cool, but because I had to buy new cards to play with, even if I had already had the cards? It’s a money grab and I didn’t like that. I don't like playing trading card games cause I wanna spend 400-500 dollars to be the best. I wanna spend an hour or so of my work wage on a cool deck that I can just have fun with. I hate seeing the only way to win is to pay to win. However, as I was saying I look at speed duel as it being a cool idea, and they should redo it soon. I think with the implementation of consistent ban lists (or making cards not overpowered but it's too late to change) and having different formats will help bring back the game we love with due time. Of course, there are many other issues with yugioh, but I feel these are the most prevalent issues in my eyes that needed to be addressed in some fashion soon
I totally agree with the proxy solution my guy. Proxys should be available for tournament play, if not for major tournaments then konami should allow them for things like locals, OTS and regionals. I remember back in the day when I was playing True Draco paleo and wanted to put Ash Blossom in my deck (and yes I was playing hand traps it is valid) and ash was like 30$ per copy, we had a locals that point and was feeling guilty playing it even thought my locals has max 10 yugioh players per tournament, I asked in the yugioh reddit community if I should play with a few proxies because I wanted to play in the local "Tournament " scene and not pay that much when I only planed to keep things local, everyone chewed me out and said that I shouldn't play. I mean like bro, majority of my deck is fine when it comes to 10% it is an issue, honestly if someone in a locals sitting across from me said his whole deck is proxied I wouldn't throw a fit, I would ask him where he got his proxies and to hook me up. I know this is a hot take for the yugioh community, but I feel strongly towards it. Best solution I have in mind without dealing with proxies is for the TCG (specifically) to start obsessively pushing and creating the tactical try decks like the OCG. It gives us budged decks , budget staples, with good ratios . Give the people acces to deck for way cheaper so that everyone can enjoy decks at a reasonable price with a degree of competitiveness.
A personal win for me is finding out I actually enjoy infernoid, it’s like 50+cards in almost most deck lists I’ve seen and ngl that scares me but playing infernoid snake eyes actually had me exploring yugioh like I did when I first started with vanquish soul lol On a separate note- raika into yubel actually goes crazy and I’m glad no one is exploring it because it’s not hard core meta lol
Cheap or expensive in the case of what's a good or bad set, it really depends on if you're a vendor or if you're a player. Having some expensive chase cards is a bit necessary to push the secondary market, but you don't want it to be unreasonable since people should be able to get what they want from sealed product if they actually are interested in more than just the chase cards. I think that the Tenpai Dragons being mostly low rarity is considered a bad decision for vendors, because they can't sell singles as easily - outside of if they get their hands on Trident Dragion originals. Anyone building Tenpai Dragon might get the most if not all of the engine just by cracking a box which does work for sales but not for the stores. Making a card like Fiendsmith only a Secret Rare screws with the supply/demand curve since the demand is going to vastly outweigh the supply. Cards that are mandatory to run in some decks but not all of them being exclusively available in high rarity is good for vendors while not being unreasonably expensive for players. Something like a good Super Poly target being only available at high rarity is something that isn't majorly expensive since any deck that isn't Fusion-based doesn't need it. Cards like Fiendsmith or S:P being only high rarity are worse because every deck wants to run them. Obviously the best solution is to just have multiple rarity options available, it's shown very easily that it makes for something that both vendors and players benefit from. If Tenpai is available in both low and high rarity - people can play the deck just by opening a box but they are incentivized to buy the singles to rarity bump the deck.
Problem being that Yugioh has a lot of scummy online vendors. So many yugioh vendors aren´t just online stores. They are single dudes trying to make a living out of selling cards. Nothing wrong with that but those people will just drive prices up even further than they need to be. F.ex. if you follow new sets closely on cardmarket, you can see some people buying low prices just to sell them for triple the price a few days after. It´s understandable but also toxic. I would love for yugioh to be products driven and not single cards driven. Then, stores would benefit more from selling sealed products and individual prices wouldn´t be as crazy as they are now for singles (even though there will always be a difference in chase cards and normal cards). So while Konami is the absolute worst, the yugioh secondary market is filled with profit sharks that just want to make a living out of it.
I use proxies with my friends but I feel like what’s the point of the real cards if we could just use a full deck of proxies but at the same time we can’t know who’s truly the best unless every player has access to all the cards
The big thing that I wish Konami does is just print staples/sought after cards in a low rareity and a high rareity. The key problem is that we have these cards at high rareity and then they're always the cards we complain are problems because we don't have access to them until the mega tins come out and even then we aren't lucky sometimes.
We are blaming Konami for making stuff secret rare that is a ‘must’ play but where is the blame on the secondary market. The vendors are the ones that start selling at stupidly high prices and then see how it is selling and keep increasing the prices based on trends. I mean look at dragonling it was 8 pound card then Schmidt played it and it was 25 pound card. That’s not Konami doing that.
You know, maybe if they didn't print a whole bunch of cards that are useless (i.e. 50% of every set, and that may be being generous), they could use that 50% and treat sought after/staple cards like they do in rarity collection/ocg. Have a hyper expensive version (hell, short print it for all I care to have it hold value), and a lower rarity that's easy-ish to get. That mulcharmy should be QCR, ultra, and super. Treat the fiend Smith engine the same, as well as the actual useful support cards, and players will be a little happier with the product side of things
I'm all for using OCG cards or asian English proxies during locals tournaments. I think we would just have to normalize letting our opponents know before the start so if you run into that one try hard you can take em out and use cards in the side deck. That way you can avoid getting kicked out of the OTS because of that weird situation.
at our locals we have a limit to 5 proxies sometimes more depends on the shop just because not everyone wants to waste for example 120 dollars on 2 phantom of yubels or quem or trident dragon
Honestly speaking, my problem moreso isn't about all the prices for the strong engines. The decks I play are heavily in-archetype and restricted, meaning something like Fiendsmith would only drag down their potential. I also only play yugioh because I love my own decks, and even if the match-up isn't fun, I will always have fun using the cards that I chose. May sound cheese-y, but out of all the archetypes that exist- the ones I chose are very special to me, y'know? My problem with yugioh is moreso going second and how difficult it is to break boards nowadays. Alot of decks have half their power on board, while the other half resides in the graveyard. Think Snake-Eyes. Even if you imperm or dark ruler their board, the moment you special summon something, Promethian gets going and casually executes full otk setup for the next turn and makes alot of effects live. Our only defense against such cards is called by, which is at 1 for other reasons (Handtraps). We all know going second in yugioh is bad, it's not a hot take. But it's still an issue that will always burn the game. While I don't mind going second much in the TCG, as we have siding patterns and the decision to go first or second if we lose, master duel is a completely different beast. Any deck is ten times worse there because a first to one without siding is just automatic gambling and doom if you lose. We had many good steps into the right directions in Yugioh, but it's unfortunately overshadowed by this God awful meta we're in. Please, let this banlist be good.
I think the use of proxys is better than any other current form of boycot to the game, you still need sleeves deckboxes and other accessories, so the card shops take a smaller hit than if people just dropped from the game, but konami takes the same hit in both cases, so it would make us more able to get a little more power over konami decisions.
I realized firsthand why proxies FEEL infuriating when playing Lorcana. In that game, besides maybe 4 or 5 cards, the top meta cards don't cost more than 20-30 bucks max. Still, that is expensive for some players for what is essentially a hobby. Madam Medusa is about a 12-15 dollar card with a simple removal effect which I ran at 2 copies but I played this girl that had a crudely drawn picture on cardstock as her proxy. I honestly laughed and found it funny. It was upsetting initially, because yeah I paid money to Have the cards, but from a gameplay perspective what is it changing? If your win con is your opponent not being able to AFFORD to be better than you, then you simply aren't good at the game. Proxies should always be allowed. That would REALLY illuminate how one sided formats are. Tournaments only seem diverse because people are priced out of the highest end decks.
The problem with proxy is that it ends up harming the lgs. If players can just proxy cards, what’s the point of buying product? 100% proxy for casual play but competitive locals with real prize support should still require real cards.
ngl i don’t think Purulia is going to go off as much as people think. as im reading the effect, it seems to be a purely going second card since you can’t control any cards on the field to use it. so if you don’t draw it in your opening hand, it becomes dead once your turn starts if you ever draw into it after. Also, the clause of having to return a number of cards randomly back to the deck if the # monsters they control +6 may make them stop early, so they may be able to return cards to your deck that you might want is a bit of a gamble. if they can end on a board of 1 monster within 8 summons (which gives you 11 cards), you now have to return 4 cards at random, meaning it could hit cards you need. and the more they summon and the fewer monsters they end on, the more that has to be returned to your deck, upping the chances of having needed cards returned before you can even use them. so while it is definitely a Maxx C adjacent card…i’m going to predict it won’t be as much of a staple as people think.
Speaking as a magic player. Magic doesn't allow proxies. However most people play the third party magic game, Commander, which has a rule 0 which means each table decides on additional rules. On a table by table basis, some people will tolerate or allow them. I've known groups that allow proxies only for deck testing, some that allow proxies only if the art is cool, some only allow commander proxies, some only allow land proxies. Some do allow proxies of all kinds but have strict power level limits on decks. Essentially the MTG scene is so specific to each individual table, there isn't really a magic community anymore. Heck there are magic tables that allow custom cards.
People dont watch Yubel because they either play the deck or know what it does. Very straightforward deck tbh, its a linear/comboey type deck where the end game is similar across the board
Me and my homie are splitting a case of INFO 6 boxes each. Hes getting all the white wood stuff im getting the drytron and memento stuff we both keep the fiendsmith stuff we pull
I think there's an easy way of fixing the game and making it accessible for everyone. If Konami prints a "goat set" in which every single goat card is easy to get and cheap, and then they start supporting goat format, then everyone would be able to play competitively, just in different formats. Proxies are also a good idea, maybe in locals.
Yeahhhh, this shit is getting out of hand, lol. I'm glad that there's some shops out here on Phoenix that do other formats. One has a non-meta one that they call "Heart of the Underdog", they restrict all meta archetypes and made their own banlist, on top of the current TCG one. I haven't gone yet but I want to take my Raidraptor deck in.
Its get harder to play year by year, but there isn't another card game i really enjoy as much. The rarity collection was pretty good though, I got quite a haul out of 1 box
Disagree with the proxy sentiment, but other points are pretty fair. I know a lot of shop owners personally, and using proxy’s (especially in tournament settings) hurts them and other players who abide by official tournament policy. I hate to say it, but if you think using proxy’s hurts Konami more than your local card shop, you should ask them what they think. You should also do research on how product distribution and contracts with those shops works. I’m not speaking blindly either. I’ve started multiple Yugioh communities including OTS. If you disagree with me that’s fine. But this is my take based on my experience as a player, worker, and community member.
Konami's lack of action has us in a situation where rarity distribution, power creep and lack of sparse F&L List updates have created a web of problems not easily solved. There are solutions, but Konami isn't interested in much besides the bare minimum. Also, careful with that proxy talk. WotC has a strict "no prixy " policy for all sanctioned events, Commander included. The only reason it happens as much as it does in Commander is it's a casual format, and some cards are more expensive than an entire Yugioh deck, so most people won't complain during a friendly game.
I’m a budget player myself and feel like i just go to locals just to add to the prize pool for the meta players. The urge to sell what i have and just give up on the game seems like the thing i need to do
Wait, I’m new to Speed Duels and confused. I know Speed Duels cards have “Speed Duel” written on it but why can’t people use the cards that already exist for Speed Duels?
I played ocg prints as proxy’s. Different rarity that we didn’t have yet and it was pretty much the exact same as the tcg card. Except it’s a dollar instead of 45.
Will never be fixed until people stop buying the expensive new stuff. It's called compliment sandwich (bad then something good then something to work on) Next 500$ engine if the spell is secret rare. It's just the wash rinse repeat process.
Proxies in MTG are not permitted in any sanctioned games, instead they are used only in casual settings. I doubt Konami would allow proxies in tournaments, but developing a more casual format, I feel, would be in their best interest.
I think there should be chase cards in sets. It entices collectors to open sets. But also I think there should be lower rarities for cards konami KNOWS are gonna be massively played
INFO does NOT give Dark Magician support. It HAS a Dark Magician monster that has nothing to do either with Dark Magician’s archetype. It’s Sorcerer of Dark Magic retrain. Not actually Dark Magician
If magic let's you play proxies at official tournaments and rankings, then I have no idea why my friends complain about it being expensive. Sounds like they're just doing wrong.
Magic doesn't allow proxies for official sanctioned tournaments. And yes, like in ygo, cards used in meta decks are damn expensive...the big difference is that if you spend 1000$ for a deck, it will last more than a few months (unless its something terribly broken).
Speed duels shot it's self in the foot by making the first 2 set being standard boxs with botched pull rates and 2 skills a box. They fixed that by making the sealed sets and tournament support being the first 2 sets high rarity cards being prize support/entry support. Konami just walking down the path Magic, DBS Master, and several other card games have done, making staples/generic cards high rarity. At some point Konami sales will drop and they will learn their lesson, I do wish Konami would drop the language rule so we can just use JP cards as their mark having an over stock of things, Bonfire on second hand sale sights in japan were 10 a pop. Proxy would be amazing and yes
It’s a good thing I’ve Retired from being a player, when I did. These prices are getting ridiculous… I honestly can’t afford this anymore, or other cards needed to be on the top.
If Konami set up multiple computer stations at Yugioh events that allow players to compete in Yugioh Duel Links as a separate event. That way, it would have saved Konami money on printing Speed Duel cards that other players wouldn’t play.
Breaker already got a secret Rare, it was released in a Tin if I remember correctly.maybe Fix the current rotation system Deck or change the format goat tournament etc
Unironically dropped YU GI Oh (hopefully temporarily) after the recent stuff to try out Magic the Gathering, and even though I feel like I missed a few important steps early on, it feels much more forgiving then Yu Gi Oh.
At the end of the day; don’t spend so much money to try and win a ycs or something so big. Just play to have fun and maybe win a locals. Unless you’re incredibly loaded and competitive, then do you. But most of us aren’t rich or at the level of winning a ycs. Just have fun and collect what you can. Konami sucking the money and fun outta it
as a Yugioh fan from a third world country only playing Master Duel, I am happy to say that I will play with this Fiendsmith engine when it comes out in MD, and will not pay a dime for it, just like I did with Fire King, Rescue Ace, Snake Eyes, and just like I'm gonna do with Yubel in the near futur.
Yes Komoney does shortprints and put said cards in certain rarities , BUT the biggest problem is the secondary market , which means locals and just regular players do the damage with their personalised prices (especially the locals , a single player wont make a "living" like that). I think Konami should "force" locals and card shops in general to have standard prices.
The thing is this is not exactly konamis problem. This way makes boxes more affordable since most secrets have value you will profit this was or another. If they made these super üt creates new problem that everyone calling it bad box and just buy singles. Konami either have to put multiple rarities of secrets or this way is better than "just buy singles" box
9:10 i do not understand this opinion. rarity 2 is objectively better to open for most people than rarity 1. yes rarity one had bigger bombs, but it also had more filler. i sure loved opening simoon, dragostepelia, ice barrier, angel of mischief, sphere mode etc.... every pack of rarity 2 feels like its got good things in it.
Me personally I don't agree with proxy's because essentially yes it takes away from the person who paid X amount of money to play a deck as it should be. Also, there are hundreds of ways to think around different strategies if not; THOUSANDS with the large card pool of Yu-Gi-Oh. I will Attest to that myself being the fact I've had to make do with cards I didn't have and when i finally got the card that i "Needed" I was just that much more of a better player. 💯💯💯💯💯
just to nit pick, MTG only has 1 format where proxies are commonly accepted and thats Commander (edh), even then theres a lot of push back from collectors and competative players about the comon joe schmoe having access to the strongest cards printed with no commitment
As far as I’m concerned, regardless of language, if it’s an official Yugioh card it should be allowed in tournament play. In an age where we can Google a card text in 10 seconds or translate foreign text just by hovering our cameras over it, proxies should not be an issue.
So I’m a budget player and to say I’ve been priced out of the format is an understatement. But if you wanna look at the positives it’s that surprisingly enough budget yugioh decks aren’t completely trash like you can make a branded chimera deck for less than $100. The problem rn imo isn’t that yugioh is expensive it’s that the small amount of extremely good cards are expensive
I refuse to believe Yubel doesn't get views. I'm guessing people assumed it wouldn't be good until Phantom of Yubel came out (which it was decent from PHNI and good at LEDE), or it's because the Super Poly variant that Cali played is the fun casual variant, not the good one. (Stated by someone who still runs a Loving Defender and 1 Eternal Favorite. Favorite is very nice to just summon a Yubel back during battle and watch the opponent have to deal with the Pain they thought they played around or didn't matter. The threat of a Super Poly is also just very nice.) I played Yubel in 2014, I've only ever played bad decks that I sometimes go 3-1 but mostly 2-2 with cause they're fun or cool but not good. I will not be silent about my love for this deck that is good, has wonderful art/ascetics I love, and fits my playstyle. Decks usually only hit 1 of those, some 2, but not all 3. Only thing it's missing is an easy main deck out to stun! ... I only hope that when/if Yubel gets hit, they only limit Phantom and don't hit Thorne or anything else. (I can see a future where Throne is limited or even Phantom being banned and I don't want that, but I would rather Phantom be hit in someway instead of Throne in anyway. If they have to be hit because of the small Phantom Throne package some people are playing. Having a 1 card monster negate that requires you to commit nothing besides 2 bricks and 3-4 of the "starters" in deck construction, and at least 1 spot in the extra deck. Throne's second effect lets you reuse Phantom when Yubel gets removed by any card effect, just adding Phantom back to hand/extra, so you can just use the Yubel and Spirit in grave to contact fuse into the same Phantom again and again.)
@@thecalieffect Welp, I'll say it again, that makes me sad. Yubel is hella fun and I'm upset more people aren't interested in the deck. My only other theory is that Throne, Phantom and Yama are pricing them out. Since those cards alone are about $200-$250-$300 depending on how many Phantoms you run. And if price isn't the answer... I don't understand why people aren't interested in Yubel. Though the deck's 100% playable without Phantom and isn't as strong or consistent without Throne but is still great. Squirmer did as much or more for the deck than Throne, and it's a common. There are plenty of budget options for the deck besides those cards too, like Unicorn instead of SP.
Yeah, this is suchh a big problem in Yugioh, but then few days later you'll see the same people who complained about it on social media bought out tons of boxes to find those rarity bumped cards. Wow, what a fun future this game is having 😂😂😂
Why you talking about me like this? 😂😂
The problems don't 'stack'. It's just a chain. We just need to resolve it.
Credit card 💳 is too OP please nerf! Seriously even adults can't afford to play this game anymore who is this for?
😂 Nah bro im living in brazil the cost for some decks ARE LITERALLY FIVE TIMES THE MINIMUM WAGE HERE
For the elite
@@CYMainA.Ibrazil is every thing five times the minimum sallarey
Guaranteed, stores would get in hot water if they hosted locals and allowed proxies. A potential solution is that the community takes more ownership of unofficial tournaments. This could:
1) enable proxies as these would not officially be sponsored by said store
2) enable unofficial banlists agreed upon by said community to help enhance variety/compensate for perceived weaknesses in the official banlists
Obviously execution of the above is complex, but there is no use in waiting for Konami to change as it has more or less the same way since I’ve been playing.
let’s just adopt the OCG’s rarity system. this solution won’t fix the power creep but it would help fix the financial strain this game’s meta puts on the player base.
From what I understand cards like S:P are still stupidly hard to pull, even in OCG.
@@gabudaichamuda2545why would u need to pull when u can jus buy it online
To clarify, MTG does not allow proxies in tournament. People use them in cEDH (competitive commander) where optimized decks are tens of thousands of dollars
Returning player perspective on the game situation. I started playing yugi November 2023 after more than 9 years away from the game. I attended every tournament at my LGS in order to start understanding the game back again, with no real card pool and a Traptrix deck (switched to Fire King later) hoping it to be enough to withstand decks even at lgs level. I'll cut it short, it went BAD: at a lgs, I found Kashtira, Tearlaments, Branded Despia etc. build like they were going to a main event, people where nice but having each play negated was so frustrating, I was doing 100km just to not being able to play (for real). I sticked to the game, used Omega to learn what deck does and started following Yugi content creators to study the game and future sets, the only issue was (still is tbh) that I don't have that much money to invest in this game in order to be competitive (not talking nationals or YCS, I'm talking competitive at lgs), I was able to buy most staples but not having a card pool to start with it's EXPENSIVE.
Long story short, in months I barely won a couple of games (not rounds, games). I'm not crazy skilled, I got better ofc, but even so without a decent amount of money this game is unplayable (quite literally thanks to HT) and I say it coming from OP, sure OP it's gotten expensive since its release but at least I can play my cards with a cheap deck and I was able to pull out some victory at LGS and online events for a fraction of the cost. Want to talk about Pokémon? Competitive decks for Pokémon are laughably cheap and if you buy sealed products you have the same product available in the online game for free in order to practice on an official tool, yugi could do the same for MD to be honest, that would be a plus.
I'll stick to yugi for a while even if the game isn't that fun right now since I found it really cool the Plant deck Jess used at UK Nationals (not crazy expensive but still) and the people is cool and funny, but in the meanwhile I think I'll start to get in touch with the OP community yeat again and give Pokémon a shot, for the price of a competitive Yugi deck I can build multiple decks for these 2 TCGs and have fun with more people.
So yeah, to sum it up I think yugi has a price problem (proxy might be a solutions but It'd be enough to mimic the OCG's policies, with cheaper and more available cards AND SCHEDULED BANLIST LIKE THEY ALREADY DO IN OCG) but also a design problem, making more and more cards that allow 1 card combo and prevent your oppo from playing the actual game (like puppet lock) are the main problems of yugi, for me at least.
Fun fact, most of yugi problems are in tcg, ocg is a completely different game, is healtier as a competitive scene and cheaper, leaving alone FUNNIER.
(sorry for bad english, I tried my best)
Imagine printing the Legendary of Destruction set and reprinting every Lightsworn card to make the deck easier to build. “Crazy Take”.
Why would we do that? 🤣🤣
I love this game to death but I feel like yu-gi-oh shoots it’s self in the foot
It has been nailing itself to the ground for years.
Yugioh is an amazing game in concept but I think Konami shoots US in the foot and asks "why TF you crying here rarity collection dry it up"
Just the TCG. And mostly cause of the business/selling side of the TCG. If everyone can play this new engine, there won't be an issue, but because the new engine is not that accessible, that is when it becomes a problem.
@@BGLoscarbut even if everyone had access to this engine, if every deck needed to play the same thing to be viable, that means your game is poorly developed and borring.
@@mechamedeamigo3984facts
For the life of me I don't understand why they can't do what Pokémon and Magic do and just print multiple rarities for cards to keep second hand prices down to an extent. Like if you want the shiny ultra super duper rare then you can pay for that but there should always be a budget version of a card as well
You want some good? Between rarity collection 1 and 2, I as a budget player was able to get a full suit of hand traps, board breakers, and even a playset of prosperity. Two years ago, that wouldn't have been possible.
Early gang wya?
The biggest problem is that Konami releases new [broken] stuff that goes for insane prices, then bans/limits the same stuff a couple of months later. Like, can you release something that's actually BALANCED?
No because you won’t buy the new stuff duh! Lol smh I hate komoney
They do release balanced stuff, it just gets irrelevant because of the broken stuff
Konami is playing 4d chess they know the idiotic player base will spend tons of money on the cardboard
No matter how many problems arise Yu-Gi-Oh players just put up with everything That's why things only continue to get worse I don't care what people say how many rarity collections or reprint sets happen it's got into a point where one card combo decks lack of proper ban lists and just horrible design on cards and in packs is just going to continue being a problem
I wish all sets were like the rarity collection sets, rather than having 5-7 raritys in a single set even 2-3 would be good. Expensive cards could still be expensive through their rarity but cheaper versions would be available for those who just want to play the game.
This might be why the TCG cooked up RC2, as an experiment to see if that's the future of Yu-Gi-Oh! going forward.
@@autobotstarscream765 yeah it sucks that they only put in cards no one wanted or didn't want reprinted in rc2
@UnknownOwl65 I guess I'm nobody then since the Fusion stuff getting the reprints helped me out, also a lot of my friends are nostalgic casuals who wanted the Blue-Eyes, Red-Eyes, and Dark Magician reprints more than anything and will not play anything besides those three Decks because "they're the main Decks", not even other Decks from/based on the DM anime such as Chimera, ABCVWXYZ, and Flame Swordsman.
That's kind of what Pokemon does. You have for instance your rare ex pokemon or uncommon supporter cards and then you have full arts or alt arts. If Yu-Gi-Oh did this... It'd work. They'd still get money while putting staples on everybody's hands... But well.. we're talking Konami here.
@@jorgeabaezp9365 that would have been great! I heard with pokemon you can even build competitive decks under 100 which is kinda unheard of for Yugioh outside of just structure deck formats.
I quit like four problems ago. I've only been gone for like six months.
Rarity collection 2 , Dragon Master Magia, the infamous "ask your friend," incident, and now a new overpriced must play engine for the fifth time over $300 really shows how much Konami hates us. Especially us old players who use the game as an escape to better times, now a lot of us have bills to pay, mouths to feed, not to mention a game that doesn't even provide proper prizing( doesn't have to be money,but quality prize support you see in Locorna is a prime example.)Either they need to get in touch with their player base or find new management that cares about the player base, rather than scalping us for our nostalgia .
What's the ask your friend incident?
@@kokuzogarduno3412Trident dragion hadn't been reprinted in like a decade and instead of reprinting it they released a video talking about tenpai that literally said "ask your friend to borrow a copy"
Omg why Konami Is so anti-consumer and lazy for the game
@@arroganceygodidn’t they announce the reprint not even 2 weeks later?
@@durazo67 It's in the mega tins. That's months too late. It should have been reprinted before tenpai came out or soon after
I think one of the main problems with yugioh is that, since it’s been around for so long, newer cards will always outclass older cards. I’ve been playing yugioh for 5-10 years now, and it’s sad to see that every game I play is the same. What I mean is every game is about 3 turns max. I miss when games would go on for 10 turns playing inzektors or whatever I was playing back then. The problem Yugioh has advanced so much that we can’t go back to that old style of long games, which I personally like. I liked knowing the outcome of a game on turn 8, unlike now, you would know the outcome of the game without even placing a card down. Anyway, as I mentioned, Yugioh has advanced so much that the Meta is always changing. Yugioh is awesome and to see new card types and abilities as well as support for older archetypes is really cool, but that’s the issue, that it changes. It's ok that it changes as this is a very meta based game, but it's crazy how cards like Baronne De Fleur existed which can just stop you totally from playing anything. You can play yugioh on a budget, but only to a certain extent. You can build a deck for 50 dollars that can attempt to compete with these top mega decks, which is still a lot, but then 3 months later it’s like 30 cents. I think a way to start to solve this issue is to, as what you said, implement new or old formats. Such as an only gx cards format or only cards from 2005 and below can be played, etc… and it should be popularized in master duel, tournaments, nationals, etc… I would love to play wacky cards such as U. A or skull servant or whatever it may be. The big thing I like that magic does that yugioh doesn’t is the addition of so many formats. There is pauper, which is just a common card only format, only making the most “expensive” and meta deck in the entire game 50 dollars at MOST. There’s a commander format where you can play with lots of friends. There's also still standard, modern, etc…. There's a format for everyone and what they wanna play. Yugioh has established themselves as a staple in the trading card community as it's been here for 20+ years. It's not going away anytime soon, and there's thousands of cards out there that I've never even have heard of and still wanna try! With the implementation of new formats I could have the ability to learn about new and wacky mechanics. However, the sad thing is, we did try this with speed duel and it failed. I never even attempted to get into that format, not because the idea wasn’t cool, but because I had to buy new cards to play with, even if I had already had the cards? It’s a money grab and I didn’t like that. I don't like playing trading card games cause I wanna spend 400-500 dollars to be the best. I wanna spend an hour or so of my work wage on a cool deck that I can just have fun with. I hate seeing the only way to win is to pay to win. However, as I was saying I look at speed duel as it being a cool idea, and they should redo it soon. I think with the implementation of consistent ban lists (or making cards not overpowered but it's too late to change) and having different formats will help bring back the game we love with due time. Of course, there are many other issues with yugioh, but I feel these are the most prevalent issues in my eyes that needed to be addressed in some fashion soon
Nothing outclasses Beaver Warrior.
Nothing. 🦫 🛡 🗡
I totally agree with the proxy solution my guy. Proxys should be available for tournament play, if not for major tournaments then konami should allow them for things like locals, OTS and regionals.
I remember back in the day when I was playing True Draco paleo and wanted to put Ash Blossom in my deck (and yes I was playing hand traps it is valid) and ash was like 30$ per copy, we had a locals that point and was feeling guilty playing it even thought my locals has max 10 yugioh players per tournament, I asked in the yugioh reddit community if I should play with a few proxies because I wanted to play in the local "Tournament " scene and not pay that much when I only planed to keep things local, everyone chewed me out and said that I shouldn't play. I mean like bro, majority of my deck is fine when it comes to 10% it is an issue, honestly if someone in a locals sitting across from me said his whole deck is proxied I wouldn't throw a fit, I would ask him where he got his proxies and to hook me up.
I know this is a hot take for the yugioh community, but I feel strongly towards it.
Best solution I have in mind without dealing with proxies is for the TCG (specifically) to start obsessively pushing and creating the tactical try decks like the OCG.
It gives us budged decks , budget staples, with good ratios . Give the people acces to deck for way cheaper so that everyone can enjoy decks at a reasonable price with a degree of competitiveness.
A personal win for me is finding out I actually enjoy infernoid, it’s like 50+cards in almost most deck lists I’ve seen and ngl that scares me but playing infernoid snake eyes actually had me exploring yugioh like I did when I first started with vanquish soul lol
On a separate note- raika into yubel actually goes crazy and I’m glad no one is exploring it because it’s not hard core meta lol
Cheap or expensive in the case of what's a good or bad set, it really depends on if you're a vendor or if you're a player. Having some expensive chase cards is a bit necessary to push the secondary market, but you don't want it to be unreasonable since people should be able to get what they want from sealed product if they actually are interested in more than just the chase cards.
I think that the Tenpai Dragons being mostly low rarity is considered a bad decision for vendors, because they can't sell singles as easily - outside of if they get their hands on Trident Dragion originals. Anyone building Tenpai Dragon might get the most if not all of the engine just by cracking a box which does work for sales but not for the stores.
Making a card like Fiendsmith only a Secret Rare screws with the supply/demand curve since the demand is going to vastly outweigh the supply. Cards that are mandatory to run in some decks but not all of them being exclusively available in high rarity is good for vendors while not being unreasonably expensive for players. Something like a good Super Poly target being only available at high rarity is something that isn't majorly expensive since any deck that isn't Fusion-based doesn't need it. Cards like Fiendsmith or S:P being only high rarity are worse because every deck wants to run them.
Obviously the best solution is to just have multiple rarity options available, it's shown very easily that it makes for something that both vendors and players benefit from. If Tenpai is available in both low and high rarity - people can play the deck just by opening a box but they are incentivized to buy the singles to rarity bump the deck.
Problem being that Yugioh has a lot of scummy online vendors. So many yugioh vendors aren´t just online stores. They are single dudes trying to make a living out of selling cards.
Nothing wrong with that but those people will just drive prices up even further than they need to be.
F.ex. if you follow new sets closely on cardmarket, you can see some people buying low prices just to sell them for triple the price a few days after.
It´s understandable but also toxic.
I would love for yugioh to be products driven and not single cards driven. Then, stores would benefit more from selling sealed products and individual prices wouldn´t be as crazy as they are now for singles (even though there will always be a difference in chase cards and normal cards).
So while Konami is the absolute worst, the yugioh secondary market is filled with profit sharks that just want to make a living out of it.
I use proxies with my friends but I feel like what’s the point of the real cards if we could just use a full deck of proxies but at the same time we can’t know who’s truly the best unless every player has access to all the cards
I think Konami should implement different rarities of cards in a set like the OCG.
The big thing that I wish Konami does is just print staples/sought after cards in a low rareity and a high rareity. The key problem is that we have these cards at high rareity and then they're always the cards we complain are problems because we don't have access to them until the mega tins come out and even then we aren't lucky sometimes.
Kashtira Fenrir was one of the few "broken" cards konami did right by making it an Ultra Rare - Do more of this please
We are blaming Konami for making stuff secret rare that is a ‘must’ play but where is the blame on the secondary market. The vendors are the ones that start selling at stupidly high prices and then see how it is selling and keep increasing the prices based on trends. I mean look at dragonling it was 8 pound card then Schmidt played it and it was 25 pound card. That’s not Konami doing that.
You know, maybe if they didn't print a whole bunch of cards that are useless (i.e. 50% of every set, and that may be being generous), they could use that 50% and treat sought after/staple cards like they do in rarity collection/ocg. Have a hyper expensive version (hell, short print it for all I care to have it hold value), and a lower rarity that's easy-ish to get. That mulcharmy should be QCR, ultra, and super.
Treat the fiend Smith engine the same, as well as the actual useful support cards, and players will be a little happier with the product side of things
I'm all for using OCG cards or asian English proxies during locals tournaments. I think we would just have to normalize letting our opponents know before the start so if you run into that one try hard you can take em out and use cards in the side deck. That way you can avoid getting kicked out of the OTS because of that weird situation.
at our locals we have a limit to 5 proxies sometimes more depends on the shop just because not everyone wants to waste for example 120 dollars on 2 phantom of yubels or quem or trident dragon
Same but for big event theres no proxing
@@consoleunkn3152 Well for big events its logical, since the stakes are higher and rewards are better
I mean don’t we control the market why can’t we decide where And what we should pay for
Honestly speaking, my problem moreso isn't about all the prices for the strong engines. The decks I play are heavily in-archetype and restricted, meaning something like Fiendsmith would only drag down their potential. I also only play yugioh because I love my own decks, and even if the match-up isn't fun, I will always have fun using the cards that I chose. May sound cheese-y, but out of all the archetypes that exist- the ones I chose are very special to me, y'know?
My problem with yugioh is moreso going second and how difficult it is to break boards nowadays. Alot of decks have half their power on board, while the other half resides in the graveyard. Think Snake-Eyes. Even if you imperm or dark ruler their board, the moment you special summon something, Promethian gets going and casually executes full otk setup for the next turn and makes alot of effects live. Our only defense against such cards is called by, which is at 1 for other reasons (Handtraps).
We all know going second in yugioh is bad, it's not a hot take. But it's still an issue that will always burn the game. While I don't mind going second much in the TCG, as we have siding patterns and the decision to go first or second if we lose, master duel is a completely different beast. Any deck is ten times worse there because a first to one without siding is just automatic gambling and doom if you lose.
We had many good steps into the right directions in Yugioh, but it's unfortunately overshadowed by this God awful meta we're in. Please, let this banlist be good.
Master Duel already had its banlist, so hopefully the TCG can make life easier for Side Deck enjoyers.
light imprisoning mirror shuts this engine down hard 👀👀 better get some copies
I think the use of proxys is better than any other current form of boycot to the game, you still need sleeves deckboxes and other accessories, so the card shops take a smaller hit than if people just dropped from the game, but konami takes the same hit in both cases, so it would make us more able to get a little more power over konami decisions.
I realized firsthand why proxies FEEL infuriating when playing Lorcana. In that game, besides maybe 4 or 5 cards, the top meta cards don't cost more than 20-30 bucks max. Still, that is expensive for some players for what is essentially a hobby. Madam Medusa is about a 12-15 dollar card with a simple removal effect which I ran at 2 copies but I played this girl that had a crudely drawn picture on cardstock as her proxy. I honestly laughed and found it funny. It was upsetting initially, because yeah I paid money to Have the cards, but from a gameplay perspective what is it changing? If your win con is your opponent not being able to AFFORD to be better than you, then you simply aren't good at the game.
Proxies should always be allowed. That would REALLY illuminate how one sided formats are. Tournaments only seem diverse because people are priced out of the highest end decks.
The problem with proxy is that it ends up harming the lgs. If players can just proxy cards, what’s the point of buying product? 100% proxy for casual play but competitive locals with real prize support should still require real cards.
ngl i don’t think Purulia is going to go off as much as people think. as im reading the effect, it seems to be a purely going second card since you can’t control any cards on the field to use it. so if you don’t draw it in your opening hand, it becomes dead once your turn starts if you ever draw into it after. Also, the clause of having to return a number of cards randomly back to the deck if the # monsters they control +6 may make them stop early, so they may be able to return cards to your deck that you might want is a bit of a gamble. if they can end on a board of 1 monster within 8 summons (which gives you 11 cards), you now have to return 4 cards at random, meaning it could hit cards you need. and the more they summon and the fewer monsters they end on, the more that has to be returned to your deck, upping the chances of having needed cards returned before you can even use them.
so while it is definitely a Maxx C adjacent card…i’m going to predict it won’t be as much of a staple as people think.
Speaking as a magic player. Magic doesn't allow proxies. However most people play the third party magic game, Commander, which has a rule 0 which means each table decides on additional rules.
On a table by table basis, some people will tolerate or allow them. I've known groups that allow proxies only for deck testing, some that allow proxies only if the art is cool, some only allow commander proxies, some only allow land proxies. Some do allow proxies of all kinds but have strict power level limits on decks.
Essentially the MTG scene is so specific to each individual table, there isn't really a magic community anymore. Heck there are magic tables that allow custom cards.
People dont watch Yubel because they either play the deck or know what it does. Very straightforward deck tbh, its a linear/comboey type deck where the end game is similar across the board
Me and my homie are splitting a case of INFO 6 boxes each. Hes getting all the white wood stuff im getting the drytron and memento stuff we both keep the fiendsmith stuff we pull
The biggest accomplishment to the barone, savage, and kuriboh ban is making room for fiendsmith.
You know that's why they did it! 😂
I think there's an easy way of fixing the game and making it accessible for everyone. If Konami prints a "goat set" in which every single goat card is easy to get and cheap, and then they start supporting goat format, then everyone would be able to play competitively, just in different formats. Proxies are also a good idea, maybe in locals.
what are your thoughts on traptrix as a rouge deck
Yeahhhh, this shit is getting out of hand, lol. I'm glad that there's some shops out here on Phoenix that do other formats. One has a non-meta one that they call "Heart of the Underdog", they restrict all meta archetypes and made their own banlist, on top of the current TCG one. I haven't gone yet but I want to take my Raidraptor deck in.
Its get harder to play year by year, but there isn't another card game i really enjoy as much. The rarity collection was pretty good though, I got quite a haul out of 1 box
Disagree with the proxy sentiment, but other points are pretty fair. I know a lot of shop owners personally, and using proxy’s (especially in tournament settings) hurts them and other players who abide by official tournament policy. I hate to say it, but if you think using proxy’s hurts Konami more than your local card shop, you should ask them what they think. You should also do research on how product distribution and contracts with those shops works. I’m not speaking blindly either. I’ve started multiple Yugioh communities including OTS. If you disagree with me that’s fine. But this is my take based on my experience as a player, worker, and community member.
Ran a few OTS stores myself. Allowing proxies at tournaments will not discourage players from picking up cards.
People still want the real thing.
Konami's lack of action has us in a situation where rarity distribution, power creep and lack of sparse F&L List updates have created a web of problems not easily solved. There are solutions, but Konami isn't interested in much besides the bare minimum.
Also, careful with that proxy talk. WotC has a strict "no prixy " policy for all sanctioned events, Commander included. The only reason it happens as much as it does in Commander is it's a casual format, and some cards are more expensive than an entire Yugioh deck, so most people won't complain during a friendly game.
I’m a budget player myself and feel like i just go to locals just to add to the prize pool for the meta players. The urge to sell what i have and just give up on the game seems like the thing i need to do
😮 so when you going to talk about the new cards and updates like yubel,and how good would it be,or will it be better then centurion 🤔
Wait, I’m new to Speed Duels and confused. I know Speed Duels cards have “Speed Duel” written on it but why can’t people use the cards that already exist for Speed Duels?
Wasnt it like you can't use normal YGO cards in speed Duels? That killed it from the start.
EXACTLY
I played ocg prints as proxy’s. Different rarity that we didn’t have yet and it was pretty much the exact same as the tcg card. Except it’s a dollar instead of 45.
Bro that thumbnail speaking to me xD gave up half my binder to get some boxes on reserve, can't wait to get a grant total of 1 card I need xD
Will never be fixed until people stop buying the expensive new stuff.
It's called compliment sandwich (bad then something good then something to work on)
Next 500$ engine if the spell is secret rare. It's just the wash rinse repeat process.
If you read the second effect of the wanna be maxx c it’s mid a good side option. The rest will be crazy
It's affordable if you sell a kidney.
It doesn't have to be yours.
Proxies in MTG are not permitted in any sanctioned games, instead they are used only in casual settings. I doubt Konami would allow proxies in tournaments, but developing a more casual format, I feel, would be in their best interest.
I'm a moderator for a mtg ch we only use proxies in casual play not tournament play just wanted 2 clarify that
I use fake cards in yugioh in tournament and idc
@@PerséeLisandro that's between u and the judges xd tho I will admit the cards that are ocg but english should be allowed imo
Bro, I just finished my snake-eye deck after this long and your say I have to but some new cards as well? I’m better off quitting this game again 😭
I think there should be chase cards in sets. It entices collectors to open sets. But also I think there should be lower rarities for cards konami KNOWS are gonna be massively played
INFO does NOT give Dark Magician support. It HAS a Dark Magician monster that has nothing to do either with Dark Magician’s archetype. It’s Sorcerer of Dark Magic retrain. Not actually Dark Magician
12:10 I love the idea of alternative official formats
If magic let's you play proxies at official tournaments and rankings, then I have no idea why my friends complain about it being expensive. Sounds like they're just doing wrong.
Magic doesn't allow proxies for official sanctioned tournaments.
And yes, like in ygo, cards used in meta decks are damn expensive...the big difference is that if you spend 1000$ for a deck, it will last more than a few months (unless its something terribly broken).
That's true I agree proxies people the prices are crazy and rewards aren't even worth it at tournaments
I wish a locals around me did a time wizard or Edison tourney once a week but they’re both really competitive
Speed duels shot it's self in the foot by making the first 2 set being standard boxs with botched pull rates and 2 skills a box. They fixed that by making the sealed sets and tournament support being the first 2 sets high rarity cards being prize support/entry support. Konami just walking down the path Magic, DBS Master, and several other card games have done, making staples/generic cards high rarity. At some point Konami sales will drop and they will learn their lesson, I do wish Konami would drop the language rule so we can just use JP cards as their mark having an over stock of things, Bonfire on second hand sale sights in japan were 10 a pop. Proxy would be amazing and yes
It’s a good thing I’ve Retired from being a player, when I did. These prices are getting ridiculous… I honestly can’t afford this anymore, or other cards needed to be on the top.
I’d say open the OCG copies for tournament play or even Asian English
I thought LEDE was fine. Only thing that annoyed me was pack filler cards like Lamp Fish that could have been something remotely playable.
If Konami set up multiple computer stations at Yugioh events that allow players to compete in Yugioh Duel Links as a separate event. That way, it would have saved Konami money on printing Speed Duel cards that other players wouldn’t play.
OH BOY, I JUST CAN'T WAIT FOR FIENDSMITH SNAKE-EYES!
Breaker already got a secret Rare, it was released in a Tin if I remember correctly.maybe Fix the current rotation system Deck or change the format goat tournament etc
The only problem with proxies is that they can just make free cards but I think they should allow everyone to use foreign cards
I pre ordered 3 boxes of the infinite forbidden set.
Unironically dropped YU GI Oh (hopefully temporarily) after the recent stuff to try out Magic the Gathering, and even though I feel like I missed a few important steps early on, it feels much more forgiving then Yu Gi Oh.
Proxy's are fine as long as you dont whip out your Sanctifire but your printer ran out of ink and its not Purple its Pink.
Regarding Speed Duel not printed anymore,i think Konami tried bring Rush Duel to TCG
Vendors could literally charge 300$ for each fiendsmith secret and they will make bank. They know players will have to buy the card
At the end of the day; don’t spend so much money to try and win a ycs or something so big. Just play to have fun and maybe win a locals. Unless you’re incredibly loaded and competitive, then do you. But most of us aren’t rich or at the level of winning a ycs. Just have fun and collect what you can. Konami sucking the money and fun outta it
RIP to those who decided to pre-register. I'm curious if they were allowed to put in the new cards or have to wait in person?
as a Yugioh fan from a third world country only playing Master Duel, I am happy to say that I will play with this Fiendsmith engine when it comes out in MD, and will not pay a dime for it, just like I did with Fire King, Rescue Ace, Snake Eyes, and just like I'm gonna do with Yubel in the near futur.
Yugioh didn't die during covid format, it's not dying any time soon
I’ll will always use proxy because I will never never never will spend more then 20 bucks for cardboard!!
My orcurst deck in duel links is doing well cause I just added gimmick puppet!
I feel like it’s best to buy a case and then sell all the extra fiendsmith back
Yes Komoney does shortprints and put said cards in certain rarities , BUT the biggest problem is the secondary market , which means locals and just regular players do the damage with their personalised prices (especially the locals , a single player wont make a "living" like that).
I think Konami should "force" locals and card shops in general to have standard prices.
The thing is this is not exactly konamis problem. This way makes boxes more affordable since most secrets have value you will profit this was or another. If they made these super üt creates new problem that everyone calling it bad box and just buy singles. Konami either have to put multiple rarities of secrets or this way is better than "just buy singles" box
9:10 i do not understand this opinion. rarity 2 is objectively better to open for most people than rarity 1. yes rarity one had bigger bombs, but it also had more filler. i sure loved opening simoon, dragostepelia, ice barrier, angel of mischief, sphere mode etc....
every pack of rarity 2 feels like its got good things in it.
Thanks for having videos uploaded and ready for me to watch almost every morning Big Dawg! Many thanks! You're the best
please let this be a normal format
with Konami, no way
Me personally I don't agree with proxy's because essentially yes it takes away from the person who paid X amount of money to play a deck as it should be. Also, there are hundreds of ways to think around different strategies if not; THOUSANDS with the large card pool of Yu-Gi-Oh. I will Attest to that myself being the fact I've had to make do with cards I didn't have and when i finally got the card that i "Needed" I was just that much more of a better player. 💯💯💯💯💯
just to nit pick, MTG only has 1 format where proxies are commonly accepted and thats Commander (edh), even then theres a lot of push back from collectors and competative players about the comon joe schmoe having access to the strongest cards printed with no commitment
As far as I’m concerned, regardless of language, if it’s an official Yugioh card it should be allowed in tournament play. In an age where we can Google a card text in 10 seconds or translate foreign text just by hovering our cameras over it, proxies should not be an issue.
in magic we alow proxy if you own the real card
So I’m a budget player and to say I’ve been priced out of the format is an understatement. But if you wanna look at the positives it’s that surprisingly enough budget yugioh decks aren’t completely trash like you can make a branded chimera deck for less than $100. The problem rn imo isn’t that yugioh is expensive it’s that the small amount of extremely good cards are expensive
i love ygo, but i gave up on thinking konami will change something. There just milking the tcg and they wont stop 🤑💸💸
Holy hand grenades proxies would bring me back. I almost got dqed at my first regional for using Duelist Kingdom as a token card.
forget Nats and the new set, I'll be playing CFB25 that weekend!
I dont get it why Konami does this...
They dont get any money from the secondary market...
Why are they doing this?
All I can say is I can not wait for the new tachyon support coming out soon it’s gonna make my galaxy eyes so much stronger
chaos dragon was already a archtype
I refuse to believe Yubel doesn't get views. I'm guessing people assumed it wouldn't be good until Phantom of Yubel came out (which it was decent from PHNI and good at LEDE), or it's because the Super Poly variant that Cali played is the fun casual variant, not the good one.
(Stated by someone who still runs a Loving Defender and 1 Eternal Favorite. Favorite is very nice to just summon a Yubel back during battle and watch the opponent have to deal with the Pain they thought they played around or didn't matter. The threat of a Super Poly is also just very nice.)
I played Yubel in 2014, I've only ever played bad decks that I sometimes go 3-1 but mostly 2-2 with cause they're fun or cool but not good. I will not be silent about my love for this deck that is good, has wonderful art/ascetics I love, and fits my playstyle. Decks usually only hit 1 of those, some 2, but not all 3. Only thing it's missing is an easy main deck out to stun!
... I only hope that when/if Yubel gets hit, they only limit Phantom and don't hit Thorne or anything else.
(I can see a future where Throne is limited or even Phantom being banned and I don't want that, but I would rather Phantom be hit in someway instead of Throne in anyway. If they have to be hit because of the small Phantom Throne package some people are playing. Having a 1 card monster negate that requires you to commit nothing besides 2 bricks and 3-4 of the "starters" in deck construction, and at least 1 spot in the extra deck. Throne's second effect lets you reuse Phantom when Yubel gets removed by any card effect, just adding Phantom back to hand/extra, so you can just use the Yubel and Spirit in grave to contact fuse into the same Phantom again and again.)
@@goldlink567 1. NOPE
2. No one watches Yubel across the board.
@@thecalieffect Welp, I'll say it again, that makes me sad. Yubel is hella fun and I'm upset more people aren't interested in the deck. My only other theory is that Throne, Phantom and Yama are pricing them out. Since those cards alone are about $200-$250-$300 depending on how many Phantoms you run. And if price isn't the answer... I don't understand why people aren't interested in Yubel.
Though the deck's 100% playable without Phantom and isn't as strong or consistent without Throne but is still great. Squirmer did as much or more for the deck than Throne, and it's a common.
There are plenty of budget options for the deck besides those cards too, like Unicorn instead of SP.
I have no idea why either. Maybe it has to do with it not being as popular of a GX archetype as we hoped.