The Issue with the Crunchyroll Awards
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- The Crunchyroll awards aired today, and I have... thoughts. It's not necessarily about the selections. but more how it was run. Let's talk about the numerous issues with the Crunchyroll Anime Awards.
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I didn't know crunchy roll did this because it was behind thx for the video as always
Up at 6 in the morning just to see a battle of Demon Slayer and JJK for awards. Who the hell organized this man?😭
You're so right 😭
Jujutsu kaisen - getting Attack on the treatment
BLAME THE FANS WHO THE ONE THAT VOTED
I think the Anime Awards moving forward need to stop ONLY considering the public's votes, and instead bring in some actual animation professionals, writers, musicians, and directors as a panel of judges whose votes are more important than the public's. If we're gonna keep seeing popular/overhyped anime win JUST because they have so many fans who are spam-voting, shit's gonna get boring real fast.
Then those fans would be loudly complaining
I still don't know how Demonslayer keeps winning Best Fantasy when it's basically just vampires in our world.
Demon slayer is a fantasy. Anything that isn't possible is considered fantasy. Not defending the results though. Demon slayer season 3 was lackluster compared to the entertainment district arc. It did not deserve best fantasy.
@@candyqueencandyqueen2689it is a fantasy, but there are better fantasy series out there. Now I fear Frieren will be losing to Demon Slayer next year, which is likely to be the case
@@kennhern no it's not, what you are referring to is called supernatural
@@yamanrawat1574 then explain why did Demon Slayer win over Mushoku Tensei, a peak title in the fantasy genre?
@@kennhern for the same reason The Academy nominated Boss Baby over A Silent Voice for 2016 Oscars, pure fucking ignorance.
A lot of times these award shows whether anime, movies, games or otherwise focus more on popularity than quality
Vinland saga s2, link click s2, Eminence in shadow s1, bleach tybw cour 2, dangers in my heart, mushoku tensei s2, also got robbed as well, and then people want to know why others prefer anime corner awards over crunchyroll awards lol
Its baffling how dangers in my heart the top rayed romance anime of 2023 wasnt even a nominee. Im positive that crunchyroll was just putting in random nominees.
I don't think Link Click S2 got robbed. The OP was neat, but I wouldn't recommend the series to anyone I know.
Imo insomniacs after school, ancient magus bride s2, Mob Psycho and Heavenly delusions were robbed the most in these awards.
@@whiten4635 see s2 not be in next years awards either, legit insane considering it is one of the best rated romance rn
Don’t forget Mob Psycho. Reigen should have won best supporting character but they but Gojo in that category.
Edit: It’s also wild that heavenly delusion didn’t win anything smh
I think the biggest problem with the whole JJK Sweep thing was the Miscommunication about the Hidden Inventory Arc and The Shibuya Incident, JJK rightfully so did deserve some of those rewards won but there’s just this miscommunication that the community itself confused it with ALL of Season 2 and not one part, I totally agree that It should’ve been pushed into 2025 than squished into this year.
Crunchy Roll just has to take it back and redo their whole show to fix the multiple holes it has.
And that's COMPLETELY their fault, because they literally used the poster for the shibuya arc
@@micu8942
Exactly! It should've been delayed and not forced into this one, This scuffs JJK A lot.
Crunchy Roll did a similar thing with the Fall 2023 Animes last year by not including them in last years awards.
This is what it would be like if marvel movies won all the academy awards when they were more popular, I can't really critize an anime i haven't seen, JJK seems to have good animated fights, but is it really that good plot wise to win all these awards? Definitely feels like a popularity contest. Heavenly Delusion got nothing? Vinland Saga? its nuts
Agreed it shouldn't have won that many awards
Since it was just the hidden inventory arc it didn't deserve to win but Shibuya next year absolutely should. The way the story is told is really good as all the fights directly lead into the other fights while making Shibuya more chaotic and hopeless for the heros
Chainsaw man underperformed (probably because everyone forgot about it yay for 2022 anime in 2024), but ignoring CSM. The most popular anime on MAL won 18/23 of the awards. It's so bad.
Yeah the rules for the Crunchyroll awards are so stupid
Dont forget the fact that the judges dont even have to watch all the anime that's nominated, even though their votes are more weighted 😭✋️
What why?
The fact that demon slayer was even nominated and the fact that it won for best fantasy is probably the worst thing about the whole thing demonstrating both how bad the nominations are as well as how it's just a popularity contest where the voters don't even vote for the thing the show is nominated for. Demon slayer is barely a fantasy having one race of superhuman villains who aren't really all that interesting when it comes to their power set and how that fantasy race is integrated into the show's world is absolutely terrible as far as halfway competent storytelling goes. And this won best fantasy?
Dude you're just mad people love Demon Slayer and its wonderful writing. This is exactly the problem with anime fans and the awards that makes it all so toxic and annoying.
@@natalimoina Demonslayer isn't fantasy so it doesn't deserve to be nominated for that category.
@@Ash_Wen-li It is though. Look up what the fantasy genre is on Google or something.
@@Ash_Wen-lithat is definitely debatable. People can’t even agree that supernatural is a part of the fantasy genre or not
@@thomasffrench3639if that were the case, Hell's Paradise would be there too, even Jujutsu Kaisen
they invited many guests that are 'anime fans' most of them just naming main stream media. but they didn't invited any content creators of anime or related to that.
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Really enjoy the off the cuff style you’re experimenting with here. A nice laid back vid I guess you could say
You can’t tell me jjk s2 was a better anime OVERALL over Vinland S2. There’s no way!
And by the way I have JJK over Vineland on My Top 5 favorite anime. But we gotta tell the truth!!
Apparently in one of the announcements it mentioned jujutsu kaisen s2 for both the hidden inventory arc and shibuya incident, but I thought crunchyroll don't count fall season for their anime awards, because shibuya incident aired in fall 2023, this is proof that jujutsu kaisen s2 winning all its awards including anime of the year was rigged
If this award show also includes Shibuya for JJK S2, that is a lot more forgivable, but the lack of communication and clarity can not be understated lol
@@AsarathaHSYTit only covered for Shibuya until the season reached an episode before October, that's why we don't see clips from the later episodes. The highest we got was Pandemonium, the episode after Gojo was sealed.
It's not that the awards accounted for all of Shibuya but that's what fans thought
yeah i noticed 99% of clips were HI minus a couple. i imagine if they nominated JJK for best animation they would have used a cut from Sukuna vs Mahoraga, rather than whatever the hell they went with@@krusher737
@@AsarathaHSYT they used Geto vs Toji which had the episode directed by Arifumi Imai (animator of Levi ODM gear of the first 3 seasons of Aot
@@AsarathaHSYTI swear when the crunchyroll awards first opened they made it clear that it was only cour 1 of season 2. However on the award show they add shibuya like it makes no sense.
To me, he double dipping possiblity is probably the most aggregious thing about the awards show.
Love the off-the-cuff style videos!👌🏾
Something a stuttering maniac like me can definitely not do anytime soon😂
Keep up the good work!💪🏾
As much as I love jjk and im very glad it won, I wholeheartedly agree with this video. Vinland, which came out in Jan of 2022 (according to MAL cause I dont remember when it came out) vs JJK that just came super recently. JJK was obviously going to sweep! Also what about Bleach? I was absolutely floored when I didn't see it on ANY nominations.
Be understanding with Vinland saga fans is difficult for me when they simply go and call trash JJK and some of them were laughing when IGN gave Shibuya 6 and saying it was just action with nothing else more to offer, I'm sorry but I can't, I'm happy JJK won
And the fact they didnt include csm and bocchi last year because of recency bias when they included jjk in this year💀💀💀
Bleach was nominated for action
Time zone? It was hosted in Japan. But for every other problem, replace every instance of where you said "Crunchyroll" with "Sony" and it will all make more sense. It is literally just an ad for Sony products and nothing else. Every winner was associated with a company that Sony/Crunchyroll has had a hand in. It was rigged from the start, the winners were chosen so long ago the judges and voting public don't even matter. It is literally an ad that will play out exactly how they wrote it.
Make it so one account can't vote multiple times for an anime! (ie. If you vote for Gojo as best character, you can't vote for JJK in any other category anymore. Would make it 100000x more fair)
What? A series can win multiple awards and be vote by any amount of real people. The issues is why is the 5 same animes appearing in every single categories, even in one they don't belong.
@@Nelson-ni8ot My point is, if they made votes worth more, then people would be more careful who they vote for. Instead of blindly voting for the only anime they might have watched that season (like JJK). You wouldn't have a lot of the same anime making the top6 anymore.
Your point of some anime showing in categories they don't belong in is a whole other issue. It is naturally the organizers fault. First off, they need to make more diverse categories. Then perhaps restrict the anime to only its most dominant characteristic, like they did with action/romance etc.
But I feel like they know this already and the fact it still turned out like this, tells me they did it with an obvious agenda. I know you're not gonna like me saying this, but people love hopping on popular stuff, it's in human nature. You can't change how the world works.
@@pointyheadYT I guess that is true, but it can't be a permanent solution. We wouldn't need 1 vote limit if the award show was run properly. More categories, proper anime categories placement better production, limit the fan influences, etc. If we fix these solutions, we won't need 1 limit vote. That why I'm disagree with 1 vote limit, because I value solving the above problems first, which will naturely fix how people vote.
Mushoko, Mob , Vinland these were the main ones i was sad about and for movie Personally i loved Slam Dunk more and well i get it , Slam Dunk is not popular with western audiences and at least Happy Bocchi got some awards .
People thought
Jujutsu kaisen - shibuya arc
So people vote it
Re zero season 3 should get top of the list though 😭
I completely agree
I personally like that they organize it this way. Okay, in my country it is not that painful. It started around 10-10 pm. But yes, the translating was awful. But I also think that some people might rewatch the VOD. I watched the whole award show twice already. I watched the live "alone" and I was interested in one youtuber's reaction, so I "rewatched" it while I was playing.
As for the JJK thing, it's not the first 10 episode. It's the first 5, but yes, they didn't communicate this. In previous years there were also cour 1 and cour 2 nominations.
the weirdest part of the translation "dub" was that... it was actually not a live translation. You could hear moaning guy and AI lady voice saying stuff ahead of time than the Japanese person several times and yet they fail to translate several bits...
I think 90% of it was scripted therefore the dub folk were just reading off a script, but obviously the acceptance speeches were unscripted and legit, so the dub team had to work on the fly
at least meg ATE
mid placements + bungo & vinland robbed + my awards better
Broooo BSD needed some nominations
I can understand the Vinland Saga being disappointed but not when they start saying that other options are trash I'm sorry
Livestreamed on Sony’s official channel but scuffed audio. That’s a tech company, right?
Erm, clearly you don’t understand the intricacies of Nezuko’s voice-work. I’m appalled that she didn’t sweep all language categories
fairs
The fact that the panel had most of the voting power makes jjk winning mostly everything even worse
I watched it live... ended at 7 AM.
Heavenly Delusion won nothing… damn. The cinematography was so good and it lost to… jjk. At least im not alone in my suffering
the fact that they included jjk here but not bocchi and csm last year is an actual crime
Thanks for tha video
thank you for watching :)
I haven't watched Demon Slayer but isn't it mythology and not fantasy?
Not really, it's basically JoJo's part 1 without the charm or good antagonist. The plot is basically vampires- i mean demons living in like the late 1800's to 1900's
Im also mad theres no shoujo category for us shoujo watchers 😢
How can demon slayer win best animation against chainsaw man and jjk2 especially demon slayer s3 ??????
Mobile suit gundam the witch from mercury got robbed & hell paradise vinland saga also got robbed
just bcuz vinland saga has no enemies doesn't mean it has to be the anime of the year.....jjk won bcuz it actually deserved for so many reasons (im not a jjk fan)
Vinlands sagas mangaka was the only one to show up
I was gonna watch it but didn't even know it aired until I came home from part-time work in the afternoon to find out it started when my shift started and finished an hour ago. Last year was probably just as bad with live dubbing done by a woman with a thick japanese accent so nobody could understand, music not done by the actual band (I remember Homura and everyone asking where LiSA was) and nominees and awards just as atrocious. Woo Demon Slayer best fantasy won against Mushoku Tensei twice.
i'm so mad mob psycho 100 didn't win anything man
I've had awards on 12:00 so it was ok
Nice points TBH , and yeah the time was shit and 100% i would have watched live but will not bother with VOD
Hahh It's shounen again!!!!!!!!!!
As sea gang u actually lucky not to witness how notorious how this event was ..all was popular anime r nominated not many anime aside for in the award...this more like shounen /normie award funny enough i don't watch 90 percent of it cuz most that nominated are shounen which is my least favourite.. I don't watch aot..juju..demon layer...spy family..
While there were problems with Hell's Paradise, overall I think it's okay to be there since plenty of times I feel that it was great. Probably had more great art direction moment than Oshi no Ko. So instead focusing on the fault, probably focus on the good part and you probably can see why it is being nominated. Personally if you tasked me to nitpick, I probably can nitpick on every show listed there and find their faults.
As for time, well, it is good for me. I live in South East Asia so time is not a problem. I understand that it is a problem to those in the west, especially in the US, but at the very least it was in Friday night/Saturday morning! You have no idea what people in Asia had to suffer when those in the US or shows focusing more on the west have to do their show like in Sunday night. For example, I like to watch Formula 1 and MotoGP and sometimes they have races that were made to cater the US more, which in turn the races start at like Monday 2AM, 3AM, 4AM etc. It was hell! I'm actually fine if a show started at midnight or in the morning, as long as it is on Saturday or Sunday.
As for the actual event, I think it is normal for it to be done at that time in Japan and afaik they rarely do things like this on Sunday, so it is a compromise. They can prerecord it, but honestly, it probably will ended up being leaked, thus might be even less people watch it. It is overall a compromise. They probably can the production quality issue, but probably not the time as long as they want to do it in Japan. Maybe move it a bit like 2hrs later is possible.
As for the judges, while I do agree that there are definitely some misses, but you ended up comparing it to The Game Awards which also have misses which one of the obvious one is Forza winning sport/racing category which obviously the judges probably doesn't really know the other nominee and ended up picking the ones that they know.
I think that's all that I want to say. I mainly want to complain about your take on the airing time thing and give different perspective to it.
JJK deserves all praise it got! Thank you animators that worked on S2 you all deserve the world for your hard work and dedication❤
The anime awards are rigged
All the people that decided and created the entire system for the anime awards are just retarrds
Then go make yours lol
i guess you're one of them as well@@Pancakegirl_
@@Archaoen0what's the meaning of coping here ??? Jjk wins because it's far better in every single catagory.
I like these new video concepts
Gojo is not, and never was a supporting characters
Sorry to hear that the live stream is not convenient in your time.... but westerners are not the only audience.
Still, I do not agree shonen animes won majority when there are more desrving to win
Out of curiosity, I looked back on the nominees and winners for 2023, and it's the exact same. The only difference is that attack on titan sweap instead of jjk. They didn't even nominate bocchi the rock for best art direction, but they nominated demon slayer. And it won.
Demon slayer deserves both art direction and maybe animation
I really love how some people only got mad at DS but not also at JJK that also ROB at least 3 awards
Vinland Saga (Anime of The Year)
Heavenly Delusion, Attack on Titan, Chainsaw Man or Vinland Saga (Cinematography)
Chainsaw Man or Trrigun Stampede (Character Design)
We suppose to choose THE BEST here, not 2nd or 3rd Best
For Anime of the Year, if we're talking about the Hidden Inventory arc only in JJK (which is what it actually was) sure, but not if we're talking about the entirety of season 2. JJK season 2 is pretty universally considered one of the great shonen arcs.
@@antiksur8883Shibuya Arc is not even comparable to Farm Arc Vinland Saga not even close
Also Massive Popularity does not mean Quality
To me Great Action does not mean Anime of The Year, it could be part of it but Story and Character is the most important aspect in fictional storytelling
You choose the best out of the best here in all aspect, not just deecent but THE Best
Anime is so fuck if we think Shibuya Arc is THE Best of the Year when there are so many Good Arc that better than this being made in a year of 100s anime
@@yuizaift8940I'd also say best opening was robbed. Idol should've got it considering it made the billboard. Hell Kickback was also a banger.
@@candyqueencandyqueen2689or innocent arrogance from heavenly delusions. Would have been happy with either one of those 3 winning best opening.
Crunchyroll never stops shiting the bed if I didnt perfer to watch anime on my tv or just as something in the back ground wail doing lab reports I would have unsubcribed a wail ago hell when the price jumps or when they fully intergrate ai sub titles even if i often watch dub because wail im pro ai im not pro ai replacing peoples jobs and giveing us a worse product just for the company to save money
Great video please consider linking the videos and the websites you have been shown in the description in the future content, Also I hate personally the idea of a 100% fan vote award I believe it become the most popular show, not the best show, etc.
Oh I completely forgot to put the links in the description thank you for reminding me to do that
I think you titled the video incorrectly it’s the jjk awards
I mean people are just gonna vote for what they like even if it wasnt deserving of that specific award.
People just watch few animes don't have right to voting. You can vote whatever you like, but you better have watched most of anime in that year and give your opinion on that at least 500 words why you choose that, at least one of the award from Japan is like this which is way better than fake crunchyroll award.
Literally 90% of the best shows of the year were barely here, even without the influence of the fall season cut off
Luffy winning next to eren and thorfinn is borderline illegal
Subtitles bugging
At 2:02
“Tackle on titan”
never watched one I'll be honest
I feel like people should be spreading publicity to awards shows done my industry professionals in Japan. I personally don’t know of any, but I find that they could probably give better results and have better crafted events than western ones. Although I doubt that Vinland Saga would win, but still
I think its partly on the judges selection but also on the anime itself. There's like 50 anime a season airing and not only can the judges not watch all of that but most of it is just garbage.
its sht ever since years ago lol
It was way worse this year. People will always be mad their favorites got snubbed or one popular anime swept, but this year it’s so apparent CR doesn’t care anymore (if they ever did). They’ve moved onto working on their monopoly play. Clearly! I haven’t paid much mind to the awards since 2018, but it’s still nice to pop in now and then and just see what gets nominated and the winners.
This year was way worse than last year and especially so in comparison to 2016-2018 awards. The first years were much better even if the inevitable reactions follow (which was always part of the fun, imo).
At least then more anime got nominated and there were more judges who had seen at least more anime than these judges from news sites and blogs. At least there was 1 or 2 judges who’d do their best to ensure as many anime got to be featured in the awards as possible even if the popular ones will still sweep. (Which I’m actually not against at all.) The problem is CR doesn’t care about running the awards anymore. They’re doing the bare minimum and they’ve reached a new low this year.
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