Moving car system : for train layouts. Cheaper than Magnorail or Faller

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  • Moving car system for model railways. Easy step by step "how to" video. Alternative to shop bought systems. HO or OO scale train layout.

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  • @dynamicloco2186
    @dynamicloco2186 2 роки тому +5

    I am a simple man. I see a genius at work…. I click like…. I click subscribe. Well done mate!

    • @nanplabwern
      @nanplabwern  2 роки тому +4

      Us simple men must stick together

  • @Hal-Zuzzu_Model_Railway
    @Hal-Zuzzu_Model_Railway Рік тому +113

    There is nothing more satisfying than watching someone making something from scratch without having to pay with an arm and a leg. Job well done 😁😁

    • @nanplabwern
      @nanplabwern  Рік тому +5

      Thank you for your comment. I have subscribed to your channel.

    • @unclefranko2452
      @unclefranko2452 Рік тому

      Brilliant mate, thanks for sharing your build 👍 it's definitely worth having a go at . Regards uncle Franko 😊

    • @gerrygeraghty4992
      @gerrygeraghty4992 7 місяців тому

      This is so so clever.I love when somebody produces something like this,it's fantastic !!!

  • @varrunningtrains4112
    @varrunningtrains4112 2 роки тому +7

    This is actually super helpful! I’ve been looking for a solution like this as an alternative to those expensive road methods!

  • @videogalore
    @videogalore Рік тому

    This is excellent - I've just looked at the cost of the Magnorail systems and even the starter pack price would put people off. I appreciate that it costs a lot of money to create a product like this from all the testing prototyping etc, but it's likely to turn people away just from the initial outlay alone, so this looks like a great way forward!

  • @chrissharp5073
    @chrissharp5073 Рік тому +2

    Absolutely brilliant. Thinking out of the box. May I suggest that you could use plastic bike chain instead of metal ones. I can see this concept becoming a much used system. Magnorail is an amazing product but pretty expensive especially in today's economic climate for most average modellers. Thank you for sharing your great idea.

    • @ewoodrailway
      @ewoodrailway Рік тому +1

      I used Lego to build mine, please feel free to check it out

  • @davebnsfnscale4433
    @davebnsfnscale4433 Рік тому +1

    That is a great suggestion for us frugal N scalers!

  • @paulkhoury8685
    @paulkhoury8685 11 місяців тому

    Very clever . Excellent idea.

  • @pedalcarguy
    @pedalcarguy Рік тому

    Ingenious! Bicycle chain and derailleur sprockets are very cheap. Also geared electric motors. Thank you for this great idea!

  • @eddielopez1323
    @eddielopez1323 9 місяців тому

    This will work for O scale... I love it

  • @curtisnewton895
    @curtisnewton895 8 місяців тому

    dude, this existed for a while now you know

  • @musoseven8218
    @musoseven8218 Рік тому +1

    Due to budget and health I'm using tatty bits of Meccano parts for all sorts of model railway applications. I model, moderately, in 7mm so was looking at more robust chain for 7mm diecast cars.
    I like what you've done, very inventive thank you for sharing 👍😊✌️💜
    Could you tell me the exact name of the idler wheels/gears please, I can only find expensive branded type🤔🤔🤔👍🤞💜

  • @21jlxi
    @21jlxi Рік тому

    Thats brilliant. I do wonder whether bigger cogs underneath would be better so the car does turn so sharply.

  • @studioopinions5870
    @studioopinions5870 Рік тому

    On A Rollercoaster there is a chain that pulls all the riders up the big big big hump that starts the ride, that's a similar system, but it's for fun. but a simple chain in a city could be made with enough motors and hooks, not magnets, the hooks would pull your car around, but the car would need to retract their hook when at the destination, and get off the chain, and using electric motor, get of the chain, and park at home or a store. save tons of electricity. But the system would require paying a fee to use their chain system perhaps. My concern is: how many cars can the chain handle, or how many tons can the chain in a city pull? That's a lot of tons of weight. Just my thoughts. Terry

    • @GLong-wx4yp
      @GLong-wx4yp Рік тому

      What you describe is basically the way trolley cars in San Francisco are moved. The conductor of the car pulls a lever to clamp on to a continuously moving cable, hence the name "cable car".
      I don't mean to detract from your idea, it's a great way to move traffic around using far less energy and eliminating internal combustion engines in cars

    • @studioopinions5870
      @studioopinions5870 Рік тому

      That's very revealing! I Thought the cable cars were electrical cars using electric power lines above. I heard the term cable cars, but I thought that was mountain climbing cars, lol. Thanks.

  • @kendrawatkins8290
    @kendrawatkins8290 Рік тому

    I have been playing with that same idea using chain, have a lot of chain.

  • @dirt5547
    @dirt5547 Рік тому

    Use a bearing ball in the car so it rolls on the surface but still attracted.

  • @kevCarrico
    @kevCarrico Рік тому

    brilliant!

  • @petertolgyesi6125
    @petertolgyesi6125 Рік тому

    Nice, but seems expensive. Is a simple string not enough? It could go up and down hills and may be easier to make junctions..

    • @nanplabwern
      @nanplabwern  Рік тому

      The system works by using magnets so string wouldn't work but by all means try it and let me know.

    • @petertolgyesi6125
      @petertolgyesi6125 Рік тому

      @@nanplabwern I know, but the chain is not magnetic itself either, although it may enhance the field. Magnets must be hauled around.

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket Рік тому

    Cool.

  • @xfredstudio1779
    @xfredstudio1779 Рік тому

    Amazing 😳👍🏻

  • @steveparsons5485
    @steveparsons5485 Рік тому

    Could you use a roll of wall paper to give a continuous road surface with no joins. One could even "dope" it with a PVA glue water mix to stiffen it up.

  • @radjeck9346
    @radjeck9346 Рік тому

    Ah , there are my bikeparts .

  • @YokJalan
    @YokJalan Рік тому

    Thanks Don..

    • @monark175
      @monark175 Рік тому

      Rotisserie grill motor is slow and available

  • @robot7759
    @robot7759 Рік тому

    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @ewoodrailway
    @ewoodrailway Рік тому

    Yes I made my own version also using a well known plastic toy brand. Feel free to check out my version

  • @russellmansfied6812
    @russellmansfied6812 Рік тому

    Hi, I can't those cogs anywhere, what are they called and where did you buy them from please?

    • @paulbrown6850
      @paulbrown6850 Рік тому

      Hi Russell, you can get the cogs from a cycle shop as they are to tension the chain on a rear dirraller, racers, mountain bikes and normal bikes have them. One of the companies who make them is shimano.
      Hope this info helps

    • @nanplabwern
      @nanplabwern  Рік тому

      They are bicycle gear parts. I live in Thailand and buy from a local shopping channel from China so l can't advise where you might buy from.

    • @wernervanpeppen4873
      @wernervanpeppen4873 Рік тому

      Jockeywheels ebay has loads

  • @miltonjohnson4345
    @miltonjohnson4345 2 роки тому +1

    Can you your self add the motor

  • @ScottTaipaleRail
    @ScottTaipaleRail 11 місяців тому

    Or you could have no cars and just a parade of Daleks keeping citizens in hiding.

  • @scottmccloud9029
    @scottmccloud9029 2 роки тому +40

    Absolutely ingenious Don. I'm quite sure it's cheaper than the kits that are available. Outstanding idea. Thank for sharing.

  • @owenllewellyn5692
    @owenllewellyn5692 Рік тому +35

    You might try asking a local bike shop (or your cyclist friends) for a few old chains, clean them up and link them up (easy with 'quicklinks')- you really could extend quite a bit. Another advantage of old chains is they are more flexible side to side (due to wear and stretching), so may well work over gently rising and falling terrain. Excellent idea, Don.

  • @paulreeve9642
    @paulreeve9642 Рік тому +9

    Very interesting, I was thinking of building a San Francisco cable car layout but not sure about the ability of this system to climb. It's ingenious, very clever. And cheap as you say. We all want to budget in this day and age now. 👍

  • @lellopesce
    @lellopesce Рік тому +9

    This is an amazing demonstration. And for the cogs, if you want larger radius turns, you can 3D print larger cogs. In fact you could 3D print the chain itself. Really great idea.

  • @andrewstephenson3594
    @andrewstephenson3594 Рік тому +6

    Great idea. The larger wheels could be used in different places to increase the radius of the corners, or 3D print other sizes. If the chain was rotated through 90 degrees inclines could be done like in Chicago. Putting kapton tape (not so cheap though) under the cardboard would reduce the wear.

    • @Mariazellerbahn
      @Mariazellerbahn Рік тому +3

      To make larger radii, just put more cogs closer together.

  • @frm3961
    @frm3961 2 роки тому +2

    Try with car window elevator motor. It have a lot of torque, and its smooth. ....Regards

  • @modelermark172
    @modelermark172 Рік тому +7

    Fascinating, Don! I can't believe I missed this when you first posted it. This has a lot of potential, not just for model railroad layouts, but for animating other dioramas, as well!

  • @manofthehour6856
    @manofthehour6856 Рік тому +2

    Leave it to the British to devise such brilliant miniatures!!!! Absolutely phenomenal work!!!

  • @matthewbucknall8350
    @matthewbucknall8350 Рік тому +3

    I love the way the car does a 3-point turn when you put it back on the magnet at 7:03

  • @JackTheCooly
    @JackTheCooly 3 місяці тому +1

    The magnorail in the intro looks like the eletric logo

  • @kevinmitchell4026
    @kevinmitchell4026 Рік тому +2

    I was contemplating something similar on the river on my layout for boats, but have 6mm MDF and 4mm resin so I will need to get really strong magnets, only issue is the magnet rubbing the road surface, maybe try a small airgap which would sole the join in the card too.

  • @johnmcquade329
    @johnmcquade329 Рік тому +2

    hi Dan, LOVED THIS... i just seen it this morning.... i think if you motorized this idea, just too let people see it working...then people can use cheaper forms of motorising their ones and if you can suggest cheaper ways of doing it..i think your subscribers would be in thousands as this idea is getting more seen on you tube everyday...P.S. you should have shown when you made the V2 rocket scene making the rocket also....just suggestions...keep up the brilliant work...good luck john

  • @normanrowe2831
    @normanrowe2831 Рік тому +1

    Two thoughts. Instead of building up to the chain and gears, use a router to create channels for the chain and gears. Second thought, many die cast vehicles come with true steering mechanism in the front end. Which would create more realistic turns. That’s my 2 cents worth. Thanks for sharing.

    • @nanplabwern
      @nanplabwern  Рік тому +1

      Two good ideas worth considering thank you

  • @roopeshkrishna34
    @roopeshkrishna34 Рік тому +1

    Great...
    Inspiring work..! Million thanks for sharing..

  • @tvtoms
    @tvtoms Рік тому +3

    Nice work on this demonstration. People use tubing as well for home made systems. I wish more scale vehicles had steerable front wheels though. And drivers.

  • @sjaakvandervrande9414
    @sjaakvandervrande9414 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the good idea.
    I am building a Swiss winterlandscape,besides moving trains.
    I want to buildt moving sleds.
    Greetings from Switzerland.

  • @crissyhouston9820
    @crissyhouston9820 8 місяців тому +1

    I think it's great, but if I may give a piece of advice I'm sure you have already done this but a simple way of making your road way visible is once you've laid the sheet over your chain would be once the car was attached one could tape a pencil to the car and it would draw out the roadway as it goes around

  • @bendtherules0
    @bendtherules0 Рік тому

    Very nice idea. I wonder why Chinese manufacturers don't come up with a cheap clone for these expensive vehicle systems.

  • @PhilGregoryFX
    @PhilGregoryFX Рік тому

    Brilliant idea. Magnorail is excessively overpriced, not just overly expensive but blatantly robbing their customers. Anyone who buys Magnorail have far more money than sense in my humble opinion.

  • @hens_ledan
    @hens_ledan 2 місяці тому

    Clever stuff! Thinking of doing this on my OO layout with a suitable motor to drive the chain.

  • @babylonsburning1
    @babylonsburning1 2 роки тому +3

    Fantastic Don. I think this will be of use to me and very many others. Thanks for sharing with us.

  • @studioopinions5870
    @studioopinions5870 Рік тому

    oh, you mean for a model, I was thinking on a real live real large scale of real life. Lol. Oh well, that model you showed would work. With motors and maybe magnets or just use some hooks.. Christmas tree hooks perhaps. Smiles! Terry

  • @epiphonium
    @epiphonium Рік тому

    Plenty bicycle gearing options available so the motor speed can be compensated for

  • @woodennecktie
    @woodennecktie Рік тому +1

    the chain is working fine , as for weight / mass you could try other types of band or even a rope , but the chain is making sure the magnet stays pointing upwards . super great system and expandable for little more cost

  • @robertcornelius3514
    @robertcornelius3514 Рік тому

    "Me labor in Chinese factory. Don't wurry. We won't copy your idea." Bahahahaha

  • @HermanMiler
    @HermanMiler Місяць тому

    That would be very useful for a factory conveyer but when the cars are overloaded they might pop off. The magnet

  • @Bako751
    @Bako751 Рік тому +2

    I think this would be super useful for a backdrop highway. Something that doesn't have to pass over a crossing, nor need to use stoplights/signs

  • @liveuk
    @liveuk Рік тому

    Every 6 year old boy ever. Better later in life than never. Have fun, buy some Lego.

  • @boolfrog
    @boolfrog Рік тому

    Interesting , when the car goes around the main drive cog it could be a roundabout in the road. Obviously more realistic if you've motorised it.

  • @chrisadams2262
    @chrisadams2262 6 місяців тому

    Alot of rv repair centers have chains like this the comes off theor cable slide systems most waranty tells them to just throw away but normally don't and these are longer Tham bike chains

  • @anotherfreediver3639
    @anotherfreediver3639 4 місяці тому

    You might investigate some PTFE sheeting to reduce friction both under and over the chain.

  • @johnramirez5996
    @johnramirez5996 Рік тому

    Would use the smaller gear ( cog ) to turn chain. Even with faster motor would run slower. Lol great job.

  • @robbieparamor4988
    @robbieparamor4988 Рік тому +1

    I did this 22 years ago then revised it using a nylon roller chain as you can make holes in it, the steel I used wasn't magnetic so the switch to nylon worked really well. But when Magnorail came out I started again with a product that was made for the job! Sorry Don but 5 years on and my Magnorail still runs great, not like this I know is noisier than you'd like to say! The membrane (road surface) needs to be more than card as the center of the layout has zero support if yo run a sinlge lane road!

  • @nutster9000
    @nutster9000 Рік тому

    So that's how they did Camberwick Green & Chigley!

  • @perstaffanlundgren
    @perstaffanlundgren Рік тому +1

    Nice ! The durability of a steel chain is so much better than 3d printed plastic, this kind of system can pull mutch heavyer stuff bigger scale vehicles also. In legoland Denmark they have ropes going in the shanels to drive model ships and sutch... outside... this chain system could be used on outdoor railways to...

  • @CarlosAlberto-ii1li
    @CarlosAlberto-ii1li Рік тому

    I have seen cheap plastic chain links online and think l will use this, this mock up is good but hard turns take the edge of of the real thing.

  • @rob8761
    @rob8761 Рік тому +1

    Brilliant idea

  • @doubtsalmon
    @doubtsalmon 7 місяців тому

    Blessedly quiet too (compared to magnorail).

  • @paulsharpe3794
    @paulsharpe3794 Рік тому

    Thanks for the idea. I'll subscribe just because of it

  • @SkipRoGlo
    @SkipRoGlo Рік тому

    Great idea. I do see one problem. Your car is driving on the wrong side of the road. 😂

  • @ModelingSteelinHO
    @ModelingSteelinHO 2 роки тому +1

    Genius idea Don ! Thank you for sharing your idea. Bicycle spur gears and chain. Genius.

  • @davidpaulsen1510
    @davidpaulsen1510 Рік тому

    You can use the magnets on the chain for switching stoplights and stops

  • @bluevanimaging9998
    @bluevanimaging9998 Рік тому

    Very good idea, will investigate this, thanks.

  • @billforrest4205
    @billforrest4205 Рік тому +1

    I constructed a 3 lane motorway diorama in 1:50 scale using this exact principal! The turnarounds at each end were the worst parts to design 😒(each lane moves at a different speed and avoiding them hitting each other at each end was a nightmare) different sized drive sprockets achieved the 3 different lane speeds, and the vehicles just cycle round in an endless loop (up one carriageway then down the other side).
    I powered it off an old windscreen wiper motor (because it was free) however I'm sure there are better geared motor options available that have a lower amp draw. I toyed with the Idea of making a video on it, but decided against it 😒 Well done for posting this , It's a very sound principle and 5 years later mine still works fine, the downside (when you have a lot of chains and cars/trucks) is that it's very very noisy!! Ps: the one thing to add is a chain tensioner on each run of chain, otherwise they throw the chain 😉. Oh and New subscriber here 👍

    • @nanplabwern
      @nanplabwern  Рік тому +2

      i commend your persistence. Until all problems are solved its not worth replacing the top road system, I was forever having to dismantle the system because of chains falling off. Better to share the idea and let others have the headaches.

  • @rriissaa05
    @rriissaa05 5 місяців тому +1

    How would you connect the electric motor to your track to make it functional??

    • @nanplabwern
      @nanplabwern  5 місяців тому +1

      Just replace the red drive cog, as you can see in the video, with a slow drive electric motor. I make it sound easy but l have not tried it myself it is just an idea for others to elaborate.

    • @rriissaa05
      @rriissaa05 5 місяців тому

      Amazing thank you !! I am very new to this and I am barely starting my hobby of a scale models. I haven't been able to find the the bike sprockets yet but I love your video it encouraged me to start my model!!

    • @rriissaa05
      @rriissaa05 5 місяців тому

      By any chance can you explain what parts you used to attach the sprockets to the wood to hold it in place?

    • @nanplabwern
      @nanplabwern  5 місяців тому

      @@rriissaa05 Each sprocket comes with a bush that is a fraction thicker than the sprocket so in fact you fix the bush to the wood leaving the sprocket to turn freely

  • @daveygivens735
    @daveygivens735 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic, Don. Despite the same challenge of transport, no doubt the chain is far more durable than the Magnorail chains, which you have to assemble anyway.

  • @KangPardi
    @KangPardi 2 роки тому

    Thanks Don...

  • @pdsnpsnldlqnop3330
    @pdsnpsnldlqnop3330 Рік тому +1

    Derailleur jockey wheels come with bushings and these are designed to be low friction and silent running. The larger red jockey wheel is from a low end Shimano derailleur and those can be best obtained by asking nicely at the bike shop - they should have plenty in the bin by the end of a busy week. Maybe just tell the mechanic you will pay a quid for each one and you should get dozens.
    The spring of a derailleur keeps a chain in tension and this needs to be part of the design. There are chain tensioners that can also be used. This should make it silent running.

  • @ultramaximusreviews
    @ultramaximusreviews Рік тому

    That's a pretty good idea

  • @keithloyal4943
    @keithloyal4943 Рік тому

    Try an old microwave turntable motor to power it

  • @ChadSmyth
    @ChadSmyth 6 місяців тому

    Hope someone will see this. Great job, but doesn't the chain rub on the wood causing drag?

    • @nanplabwern
      @nanplabwern  6 місяців тому +1

      When static, yes but in motion, although a small tolerance it clears the wood.

  • @IanTanLK
    @IanTanLK Рік тому

    Magic supported by science...

  • @kendrawatkins8290
    @kendrawatkins8290 Рік тому

    also have strong slow moving motors,

  • @leop9021
    @leop9021 Рік тому

    Great idea. I plan to try it. Thank you.

  • @MrBobWareham
    @MrBobWareham 6 місяців тому

    Nice, very nice what a good idea, I wonder if you can get plastic chain and would that be better or not?

    • @nanplabwern
      @nanplabwern  6 місяців тому

      Magnet wouldn't stick to plastic !!

  • @wahyudiminiaturkai7191
    @wahyudiminiaturkai7191 Рік тому

    Aku subscrib, like 👍👍👍👍👍👍bos

  • @agussetiyawan1206
    @agussetiyawan1206 Рік тому

    thank you for teach

  • @rayamaulana470
    @rayamaulana470 6 місяців тому

    thanks sir for the idea. amazing

  • @hankadelicflash
    @hankadelicflash Рік тому

    As far as the magnet, if the chain is metal and not plastic, couldn't you just glue the magnets to the cars?

    • @nanplabwern
      @nanplabwern  Рік тому +1

      The magnet has to be level with the bottom of the car wheels ,
      But it could be done

  • @joeblogs5163
    @joeblogs5163 Рік тому

    Bicycle derailleur jockey wheels

  • @kingaragorn1416
    @kingaragorn1416 Рік тому

    Great idea! Could anyone recommend what motor i would need for this project?

    • @nanplabwern
      @nanplabwern  Рік тому

      Some have suggested a car window motor or a variable speed motor. I've never taken it to that stage.

  • @smallscenesh0
    @smallscenesh0 Рік тому

    This came to my feed and you got yourself a new subscriber! Cheap and functional: that is my Scene! 😁 Cheers!

  • @ezikhoyo
    @ezikhoyo Рік тому

    Cool system nonetheless, but I think this, and something like Faller has absolutely different target audiences. This woudl also work wike 2 wheelers, so motorcycles or bicycles, but from the nature is a static track with all vehicles moving at the same speed, etc. On the Faller, which I woudln't consider because of the price and just build it myself, each car is a standalone and detached from every other carm, and can therefore do much different things, like taking over, have a crossing, not even mentioning that each car can have hundreds of lights, indicators/hazard lights, etc. But for a small town like the one you showed, where little bicycles would fit perfectly, your system is more than enough, and probably far cheaper than magnorail. Hats off for that! :)

  • @hirumasgamingandco
    @hirumasgamingandco Рік тому

    C’est exactement ce que je voulais faire il y a 18ans pour ma ville lego mais par manque de place chez mes parents je n’avais pas pu 😢 et je voulais le motorisé avec un moteur de meccano. Mais c’est top de voir que sa marche vraiment 😂 quand j’avais 11ans j’avais des idées de ouf 😂

  • @theaussienurseflipper.8113
    @theaussienurseflipper.8113 Рік тому

    Noice job mate, cheers Graham

  • @jago5300
    @jago5300 Рік тому

    I know it's way too soon. But this is a plan for down the future. I'm looking to build a 4x8 train set with moving cars. My granddaughter. As years go by it'll be something that she'll always remember.

  • @PaulIreland1972
    @PaulIreland1972 Рік тому

    I've got no idea why UA-cam threw this into my feed, but replacing the bike chain and sprokets with GT2 belts and pulleys (commonly used in 3D printers) would reduce cost even more and would be quieter. Slightly more advanced would be to use the same sort of stepper motors used in the 3D printers along with an Arduino and stepper driver PCB to power it. If you have access to a 3D printer, GT2 pulleys could be printed in different diameters to give wider or tighter curves.

    • @nanplabwern
      @nanplabwern  Рік тому +1

      I'm sure everything you say would be possible but all I was promoting was an alternative idea to the expensive kits that are commercially available.

    • @PaulIreland1972
      @PaulIreland1972 Рік тому

      @@nanplabwern No worries, your ideas just had me thinking out loud.

  • @kensomething379
    @kensomething379 Рік тому

    Absolutely brilliant!I have been trying to figure out.
    How to make a car system, And it just so happens I live above a bicycle shop. He also has a three d printer that he makes parts with, So i'm going to be giving him a call in a couple of minutes

  • @ANTONYTHEDRAWINGMAN
    @ANTONYTHEDRAWINGMAN Рік тому

    that's so so impressive Don....well done and proves these things can be cheaply done with the knowledge of how to do it from experts like yourself sir.

  • @alanharrison6555
    @alanharrison6555 Рік тому

    very very clever - fantastic

  • @corneilcorneil
    @corneilcorneil Рік тому

    I would use larger diameter sprokets, looks more realistic

    • @tubybubi
      @tubybubi Рік тому

      Larger sprockets are not that easy to use but will add more realism. The good thing ist, one can just use old worn bicycle parts to tinker with.

  • @Lee1978R
    @Lee1978R 11 місяців тому

    That is genius 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @modelrailwayproductions7683

    Really great idea well done