The Great Flood | Elden Ring Archaeology Ep. 26

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  • @carnamate
    @carnamate Місяць тому +815

    it is not an exaggeration to say my life goes on hold when a new Archaeology video comes out

    • @tuckddd9
      @tuckddd9 Місяць тому +26

      Literally walked out of church

    • @kearneysmith3614
      @kearneysmith3614 Місяць тому +11

      Literally the only channel I have alerts for

    • @buckyhurdle4776
      @buckyhurdle4776 Місяць тому +16

      I don't know why I fucking love this channel so much. Like I think I love this channel even more than the game lmao

    • @TheSpectralForce
      @TheSpectralForce Місяць тому +10

      Dearest Mother, wouldst thou truly Lore-ship sanction an Elden Ring theory bereft of Archeology?

    • @Diesalot-sc9qz
      @Diesalot-sc9qz Місяць тому +2

      @@tuckddd9”sorry Father, but I put my faith in the Erdtree now”

  • @judelee9156
    @judelee9156 Місяць тому +839

    What distinguishes this channel (other than the archaeology) is how they clearly researched their theories prior to release to the extent that they elude to months of work and theory collation rather than release asap to generate views. Truely a labor of love

    • @tarnishedarchaeologist
      @tarnishedarchaeologist  Місяць тому +126

      What a nice compliment :)

    • @DeathWatchChampion
      @DeathWatchChampion Місяць тому +44

      ​@@tarnishedarchaeologistthat's not a compliment that's an objective factual observation. I thought I understood elden ring lore as well as any did after hundreds of hours of lore videos, then I watch one tarnished archeologist video and realize I knew absolutely nothing

    • @rocstarang5747
      @rocstarang5747 Місяць тому +16

      It's the same reason I like your videos. There is a layer of 'texture' that other content creators are missing. Keep up the good work! 🎩

    • @jameskazd9951
      @jameskazd9951 Місяць тому +12

      i have to agree, seems like tarnished archaeologist here doesn't just do extra research but also goes back over it a couple times and double checks and cross references everything. No hate to other lore channels, i think most do great work, but this channel seems to bring things to another level

    • @Ron_Jambo_
      @Ron_Jambo_ Місяць тому

      So researched he's saying these stone coffins might be Arks created for a flood, but stone doesn't float. What a waste of time

  • @frozengoat5834
    @frozengoat5834 Місяць тому +322

    As soon as you reminded me of rain I thought "But in this case it didn't rain, and maybe wasn't one meteor impact, maybe it was like a meteor shower that liquified the land all over." and then my mind went to "Founding Rain of Stars" the first of all Glintstone Sorceries
    "The glimpse of the primeval current that the astrologer saw became real, and the stars' amber rained down on this land."
    If that astrologer was the ancient dynast, it could stand to reason that he foresaw this "Rain of Stars" in the primeval current and the rest is history as described
    All im saying is the fact that the first glintstone sorcery is described as "Rain" and was essentially a meteor shower does connect nicely with these ideas and is also ancient in nature, playing a similar role as "the first" so to speak

  • @thegodofsoapkekcario1970
    @thegodofsoapkekcario1970 Місяць тому +582

    Tarnished Archaeologist has no fans.
    He has students.

    • @monsieurdorgat6864
      @monsieurdorgat6864 Місяць тому

      lmao I left such a long comment because this theory has me INSPIRED. It's really compelling - and I just wanna complete it!

    • @lilbuddy324
      @lilbuddy324 Місяць тому +1

      And I currently have a D- 😂

    • @merlinkater7756
      @merlinkater7756 Місяць тому

      "Sir will this be in the test?🙋‍♂"

    • @scotshabalam2432
      @scotshabalam2432 Місяць тому +1

      Tarnished deleted my comment because I disagreed with him and respectfully pointed out flaws in his theories.

    • @thegodofsoapkekcario1970
      @thegodofsoapkekcario1970 Місяць тому

      @@scotshabalam2432 Post it here, UA-cam usually deletes comments and I’ll check if you have terms that make it deletable because I’m used to this.

  • @CometDriver63
    @CometDriver63 Місяць тому +475

    I truly hope that you one day consider partnering with the psychologist and perhaps others to write an anthology that delves deeper into the real-world parallels . I’m all-in for it. Thank you for what you do!

    • @Ω3103ζ
      @Ω3103ζ Місяць тому +72

      100 smackaroos??

    • @tarnishedarchaeologist
      @tarnishedarchaeologist  Місяць тому +98

      Wow, thank you!

    • @gregwise5655
      @gregwise5655 Місяць тому +14

      ❤ great show of support

    • @user-zp8kj2cl9g
      @user-zp8kj2cl9g Місяць тому +27

      Holy crap 100 doubloons?! I could buy 10 little Cesars with that😮

    • @DanCantCook
      @DanCantCook Місяць тому

      @@user-zp8kj2cl9gwhy would you when you could donate it to the TA?

  • @Dandyfloss
    @Dandyfloss Місяць тому +153

    "But that, our friends, is a story for another day" NOOO DON'T END LIKE THIS COME BACK I NEED MORE

    • @handandless7115
      @handandless7115 Місяць тому +1

      Every time lol

    • @johannjanolo4880
      @johannjanolo4880 Місяць тому +3

      When he started pointing out the woman…i was dreading the cliffhang 😢

    • @Buckinghamrabbit
      @Buckinghamrabbit Місяць тому

      Vid released yesterday- so, can that day be today please?

  • @sinenomine3449
    @sinenomine3449 Місяць тому +112

    You opened my mind to so much that doesn't even has to do with ER, I got like 20 tavs open at the moment, gonna be a long night, thanks brother, you're keeping me alive in those dark days.

    • @tarnishedarchaeologist
      @tarnishedarchaeologist  Місяць тому +27

      That's the goal!

    • @johnbuxton4484
      @johnbuxton4484 Місяць тому +6

      Stay strong my friend 👊💚

    • @wayfarerzen
      @wayfarerzen Місяць тому

      Same here.
      TA opening my mind to the possibility that games can not just be stories or art, but entire histories. Incredible stuff.

  • @GrandStyles
    @GrandStyles Місяць тому +138

    That final teaser revealing Radagon's point of union with Marika is going to be very interesting.
    Speaking of cataclysmic events, I hope we get to see your findings The Finger Ruins. Visually, they look as if the Greater Will itself gripped the land and I'm curious if there's any historical imagery or geographic indications that can contextualize the alien environment.

    • @captnduck
      @captnduck Місяць тому +18

      Im guessing it must have been Metyr that warned Elden John that the lava flood was coming, especially if the coming of the elden beast was what caused the flood.

    • @reynaldocarrasco2545
      @reynaldocarrasco2545 Місяць тому

      Check this dude Ontos out he has some interesting ideas on their union.

    • @halcyon62277
      @halcyon62277 Місяць тому +18

      I think the great cataclysm that flooded the Lands Between with molten rock was the meteor that brought Metyr. She is described as being the first that the Greater Will put on the planet, the Elden Beast I believe arrived during Marika's ascension.

    • @monsieurdorgat6864
      @monsieurdorgat6864 Місяць тому +14

      I think something interesting we can gleam is that the divine locus framed by the Gate of Divinity is indigenous to the Lands Between, while the Elden Star and the Fingers (all envoys of the greater will) are not.
      I think what's very subtly being posited here is that the Greater Will is an alien force that exudes its influence on these lands, yet true divinity is something very much natural and native to the Lands Between as perhaps was the focus of the Rauh civilization.
      Now, I'm a bit unsure whether the Rauh civilization destroyed itself because of cults to the World Eating Serpent (associated with magma) or if the Elden Beast star brought up the molten cataclysm or whether the Elden Beast simply brought life back to the molten world, but it remains that the Greater Will was probably not happy with the fact that the tower folk were digging up the Rauh ruins and seeking their own divinity rather than venerating the Greater Will (basically digging up the "Nephilim"), so Marika was given her finger envoys to guide her in succeeding them and perhaps even purging them later.

    • @Monsterassassin3
      @Monsterassassin3 Місяць тому +4

      The ruins being giant finger prints is probably a very literal metaphor/allusion to Lovecraft. I think in the story about Cthulu theres a line that says something like “What we see of him is but a fingerprint” or something like that. Im botching it but

  • @StylesX
    @StylesX Місяць тому +174

    I love how the begginings of these, and throughout, feel so different from other lore videos. People always make their lore videos relating to pop culture references or other From games. But its nice to see comparisons between real history/myths.

    • @IndieGinge
      @IndieGinge Місяць тому +9

      The only other creator who I'm aware of who does anywhere near as good of a job is Quelaag, who's really getting every cent she can out of her education (I say with love if you see this, I feel that sister) though it seems like it's more based in literary criticism, and her vibe is a little more "eccentric aunt who's quite smart takes you to school"

  • @MathofKhan
    @MathofKhan Місяць тому +50

    What sets TA apart for me is the fact that even if I were to find a particular theory to be farfetched (which hasn't happened yet), the videos and by extension the game itself have become vehicles to learn about so many fascinating ancient cultures. This shit is awesome, well done TA!!

  • @devinguy
    @devinguy Місяць тому +206

    The best Elden Ring lore UA-camr hands DOWN.

  • @EmmettFlo7
    @EmmettFlo7 Місяць тому +16

    I like your interpretation that the stones coffins only became stone coffins after the occupants were trapped inside. It makes way more sense that they were arks but that only a few survived the catechism.

  • @sealswimswim354
    @sealswimswim354 Місяць тому +143

    The Asassin’s Creed theme, structures older than the earth (lava), and museum artifacts, this is my happy place. Can’t wait to watch the full episode later!

    • @Snack-Sized-Femboy
      @Snack-Sized-Femboy Місяць тому +3

      Jesper Kyd has done so many 10/10 video game soundtracks. Borderlands 3 menu theme is another one of my favs from him.

    • @buckyhurdle4776
      @buckyhurdle4776 Місяць тому +8

      Bro I miss when assassin's creed was coming out with Ezio bangers every year

    • @Cartographerofstability
      @Cartographerofstability Місяць тому +5

      TA is extremely based it seems.

    • @TheOdyssey989
      @TheOdyssey989 Місяць тому

      Wasn’t the cg stuff from Civ too?

  • @stevenfearon6424
    @stevenfearon6424 Місяць тому +10

    I'm forty years old and Elden Ring is my favorite game of all time. Each playthrough is amazing but will never emulate the awe and wonder of the first time exploring The Lands Between. I am deeply grateful for your videos as they tap into that wonder and discovery all over again. Thank you so very much for your hardwork and shared passion.

    • @tarnishedarchaeologist
      @tarnishedarchaeologist  Місяць тому +4

      Thank you for the the compliment. May there be always be new horizons for us to explore.

  • @Noizzed
    @Noizzed Місяць тому +33

    I think the Sun Realm Shield is an incredibly under appreciated lore item.
    It reveals the possiblity of an ancient era where the Sun ruled as a god, specially since Sun worship was a very prevalent religion all around the world, including the Sumerians.
    I think that the Fell God is related to this Sun god. This would explain the Fire Giant's forge was already built before this flood, and would mark the "Sun Realm" era as the one before the flood.

    • @AliDD-p2e
      @AliDD-p2e Місяць тому +7

      You are not wrong in facts the one eyed sun deity does appear in Mesopotamian mythology it's an evil goddess slain by ninurta Mesopotamian god of war,warriors, agriculture, harvest, hunting

    • @lexmortis5722
      @lexmortis5722 Місяць тому +15

      Exactly what i have been screaming atop a mountain since the early days of the game. Every culture ingame fears the fell god and that must have a historical reason, not just "mighty fire giants roar and cause storms of fire and avalanches across the world". The sun shield is very much under peoples radar even tho the sun was one of the biggest physical gods in human history.

    • @johnleecooper8520
      @johnleecooper8520 Місяць тому +6

      ive basically been assuming the fell god was the sun, straight up, since other outer gods seem to be associated with celestial bodies and the greater will is apparantly a black hole / the void of space

    • @crazzyguy7735
      @crazzyguy7735 Місяць тому +2

      I'm pretty sure the sun is symbolic of the greater will, not the fell god. Firstly, consider that skeletal beastmen in farum azula also drop the shield, we know that farum azula was an elden ring centered culture, thus worshipping the greater will, there's not really anything that ties them to the fell god. Also look to both goldmask and the dungeater, the formers titular mask and the latters medallion both evoking images of the sun, yet neither having anything to do with the fell god. Instead both their questlines result in forming a mending rune, used to repair the elden ring and usher in a new order to the lands between, fulfilling the greater wills wishes. The biggest thing, to me, that points to this theory though is the warming stone, it's item description stating "It's said that the Erdtree was once as warm as the gentle sun, and would gradually heal all who bathed in its rays". It directly likens the healing power of the erdtree to the sun, which would be an odd thing to do if the sun were the fell god, one of the greatest enemies of the erdtree. And again, a connection only strengthened by the dlc's improved version, literally called the "sunwarmth stone", and again likens the erdtree's healing light to the warmth of the sun. Another small detail is the fact that the sun ingame is so small and easily missed, which I believe is a visual representation of the greater wills abandonment, though that could be a stretch.

    • @Noizzed
      @Noizzed Місяць тому +2

      @@crazzyguy7735 Most Beastman use the Jar shield, the only who drop the Sun Realm Shield are a few of Those Who Live in Death. Which is pretty specific, you would think that if the Greater Will and the Sun were always synonymous, there wouldn't be such distinction. Moreover, the age/kingdom named in the shield is no vague title, as it specifically capitalizes the term "Seat of the Sun" where seat has no reason to be capitalized unless it is referring to an specific, named era. So i hardly think that this was merely another age of the GW. Ironically, we all know how the Golden Order is very much fashioned after Christianity, and how fitting for the Golden Order it is that it assimilates an aspect of another culture, even more when in real history, Christ took on the symbol of the Sun as well! "Mithra was also the god of the sun, of the shining light that beholds everything, and, hence, was invoked in oaths. The Greeks and Romans considered Mithra as a sun god. He was probably also the god of kings." The birth of Mithra was on December 25, celebrated in Saturnalia, which is... Yeah, the original Christmas.
      You mention the Dung-eater medallion since it's medallion doesn't specifically depict a sun, but rather it only mentions that it's "Sun-shaped" Ironically, it is basically the exact same visual as the Fire Visage from the DLC, a much more close fit since it also has a face. And the fire Visage directly depicts the Fell God. What's more another thing which resembles the Fire Visage, which again, depicts the Fell God, is the Lamenter mask, and the lamenter form itself has on it's back a giant face extremely similar to that which the Fire Giant has on it's chest.
      I think what you say doesn't necessarily mean that the GW couldn't have been fashioned as a "Sun religion", but it certainly doesn't debunk the existance of an ancient kingdom of a Sun god separate to that of the GW.

  • @McGeeMcGeeMcGee-g7w
    @McGeeMcGeeMcGee-g7w Місяць тому +61

    I am once again blown away by your skills here. I can't watch a lot of elden ring lore videos since the dlc. Because it seems to muddle a lot of the lore or is completely unrelated? I'd love to be wrong but most videos just seem way to speculative yet said with an air of authority. But you're takes using your knowledge of real world mythos gives so much life to this world! I love it. Thank you for your hard work!

  • @enfisu586
    @enfisu586 Місяць тому +25

    The bodies of the titans rising from the landscape probably started as another Nausicaa reference, the bodies of the ancient god warriors that dot the landscape.
    It's also not hard to see the many stone pillars embedded in the earth as an evolution of the stone forest that holds up the world of dark souls, visible in Ash Lake, which is also a Nausicaa reference (note the giant skull there as well).

  • @kearneysmith3614
    @kearneysmith3614 Місяць тому +34

    Ngl fam as soon as I walked around the stone ships in-game a few months back I remember thinking “Ol’ TA is gonna have a field day with this one”. Called it, great vid as always 🔥

  • @judelee9156
    @judelee9156 Місяць тому +27

    We know the ancient dragons protected their lord by becoming a wall of stone. I'm so excited for future videos

  • @artificial_pixel
    @artificial_pixel Місяць тому +103

    I know you're not supposed to rush perfection, but the wait is painful. Love your content.

  • @chrisprescott2273
    @chrisprescott2273 Місяць тому +98

    I think your theory about the stone coffins floating there on lava makes perfect sense. Mostly because a ship made of stone would never float on water.

    • @seaottar25
      @seaottar25 Місяць тому +22

      I think it depends on construction. Ships don’t have to be made of buoyant materials (otherwise our steel ships nowadays would sink), they just have to have enough air in their hull to displace enough water to stay afloat. As long as the rock making up a ship is watertight, it should be able to float.
      Though I do agree, in this case with the Elden ring coffin ships, it sounds for sure like a lava flood.

    • @chrisprescott2273
      @chrisprescott2273 Місяць тому +3

      @@seaottar25 That's a very good point my friend.

    • @chrisprescott2273
      @chrisprescott2273 Місяць тому +3

      @@Tyneras That's quite interesting.

    • @Ron_Jambo_
      @Ron_Jambo_ Місяць тому

      Stone diesn't float in lava it melts. Sorry but this video is stupid af and anyone believing anything said here should have their brain checked.

    • @mechamahou8467
      @mechamahou8467 Місяць тому +11

      ​@@chrisprescott2273I do not believe the coffins were ever designed to float on water; throughout the game we see several coffins used as transportation devices that work by "riding" light, defying gravity outright, and using some kind of glyph-based power system. The elevators that go down to Siofra also use this "stone magic". It's clear to me that the coffins arrived in the Lands Between by this same or similar technology. Not by actually floating on water. I am very confused how TA keeps missing this connection.

  • @dinnerboi
    @dinnerboi Місяць тому +5

    Absolutely insane the amount of lore in this game and even more insane how you discover it and parallel it to real events

  • @Swordplay-nn8ps
    @Swordplay-nn8ps Місяць тому +11

    the animals are sleeping in worship of St. Trina, but I never put together the ark connection before. super rad

  • @mikeheiser3728
    @mikeheiser3728 Місяць тому +10

    This channel is still the best thing to happen to Elden Ring

  • @carolusreks
    @carolusreks Місяць тому +20

    Wow, the consistent quality of these videos is amazing. Another straight banger

  • @TheBenLemonade
    @TheBenLemonade Місяць тому +29

    I was hoping for a new video the moment this dropped. Fantastic work as always - absolutely fascinating

  • @jeffd830-i8q
    @jeffd830-i8q Місяць тому +8

    i love how im always so dubious at the beginning and by the end i believe everything you say

  • @teavis2762
    @teavis2762 Місяць тому +38

    What if the great stone flood was the Crucible itself? The Elden Star landing was the cataclysmic event that caused the lands to melt into one soup of rock and life. The Erdtree couldve been born from the land shortly after, when the land was fertile from the life that once was. People that survived coulve splintered their beliefs, with people like the hornsent worshiping the event itself as the birth of life, and others worshipping the erdtree born from the event, when really its all just different aspects of the Greater Will to begin with.

    • @jotasietesiete4397
      @jotasietesiete4397 Місяць тому +4

      I subscribe to this. Only problem is that there's suposed to be no civilization before the splitting of the One Great.
      Unless maybe what was there before wasn't life, like the everlasting dragons or archtrees from before fire

    • @robertrubas2634
      @robertrubas2634 Місяць тому +3

      I thought about it too but i'm confused to the fact ruah worships the crucible and it existed before the flood, unless ruah are just hornsent who came to inhabit the ruins of the ancient giants, and the crucible happened to be near it.

    • @lexmortis5722
      @lexmortis5722 Місяць тому +1

      The sun realm from the sun shield probably was the "realm" of the fell god, while i dont subscribe to the idea that the magma flood was caused by meteors, every culture fears the fire god and that must have a historical reason.

    • @saoz3
      @saoz3 Місяць тому

      @@jotasietesiete4397 The Crucible and the One great are two separate concepts. The new lore from the DLC has led most people to the conclusion that the one great existed before everything else, before fracturing and becoming the greater will (the will of the one great) and the other outer gods. The crucible is hard to pin down exactly, perhaps it refers to a time when life was blended together, or a place or thing which blends life itself, but it is not necessarily the origin of all life.
      There definitely was life before the cataclysm, the ancient giants and Elden John civilization obviously, but possibly the Farum Azula civilization as well. Rauh makes things messy, but it seems like their civilization continued existing after the cataclysm.

  • @endlessXnow
    @endlessXnow Місяць тому +27

    I'm wondering if you or anyone else has covered the cliffside terrain of Mr Gelmir/Altus/Liurnia?
    When I look at it I get the sense that it has been manipulated by gravity magic.
    Especially given those spires around the Uhl Palace Ruins, which was likely mostly teleported underground.

    • @virtem7686
      @virtem7686 Місяць тому +13

      each time I see or explore the inmediation of gelmir, including caria, give the sense that teluric activity has shake the region
      in the 2010 earthquake, a whole city was moven a meter, similar case is the island of chiloe was risen other meter, same country.
      when looking the road on gelmir is clear that mountain gelmir has being rising upward, gelmir is not only active, is moving/growing

    • @WanderedIn
      @WanderedIn Місяць тому +3

      The Mt. Gelmir map says that it underwent violent upheavals during the Shattering - apparently even the land buckled and broke. So it’s very plausible that Mt. Gelmir looks like that only now that the Shattering has shaken and broken it.

  • @coreyrachar9694
    @coreyrachar9694 Місяць тому +40

    Everyone wussing out and avoiding these topics meanwhile TA is out there ACTUALLY trying to figure out the lore.

  • @theULTIMATElife50
    @theULTIMATElife50 Місяць тому +11

    For every storyteller that passes in to history another is born to tell their story, but that is a story for another day. RIP Jason.

  • @mimim.2175
    @mimim.2175 Місяць тому +8

    When this game first came out, my bf and I said "I bet you the GW sent the comet as a punishment, and the earthquake/tremors of the impact from it sank the eternal cities like a 'land' version of the flood myth."
    It feels so good to have perhaps guessed that tiny part of the lore based on context clues. Love your work- this is the first video Ive watched from this channel, and you have a fan!

  • @KommissarAlexander
    @KommissarAlexander Місяць тому +9

    Every single video of yours is an amazing experience.

  • @hythan9198
    @hythan9198 Місяць тому +20

    I have had my gripes with some of your theories, but this was just masterful. I'm blown away. I had an inkling of the 'ark' idea, but I hadn't imagined they would be designed to 'float' along such a magma deluge. Nor that not all of the ark's would have become putrescence. 3 survivors is a brilliant idea/find. Absolutely stunning work on this one, truly

  • @TheAtomkilla
    @TheAtomkilla Місяць тому +2

    It occured to me that Putrescence is very much like Crucible - and content of Jars.
    All of them are unions of myriad of life forms in one. One natural, one artificial and one accidental.
    Fantastic work TA. Best lore tuber all around.

  • @OscarMD2
    @OscarMD2 Місяць тому +8

    Linking the theory to the putrescent knight human/animal design (with the animals by the grace before) definitely sold me on it.
    Fantastic as always 👏

  • @courageousodin
    @courageousodin Місяць тому +8

    This channel truly enthralls me and captures my attention like no other channel ever has. Incredible work as always TA.

  • @Nothrazim
    @Nothrazim Місяць тому +8

    Do you have any thoughts on why the Titans seemed to be so large, and how it matches up with their buildings? The ruins seem built for much smaller people; were the titans slave builders, or maybe pet keepers?
    On that note, the giant hornsent specimen - how does it's size and shape compare to the base game titans?

  • @tuila
    @tuila Місяць тому +15

    Yes! Perfect timing to take my mind off the inevitably approaching Monday morning.

  • @paine_inflicta
    @paine_inflicta Місяць тому +10

    I've always been fascinated by the Flood myths, because you can find a Flood mentioned in most cultures in that general vicinity, and even a few further out. (I think there's actually a Taiwanese variant that refers back to Noah) Beyond Noah, I'm a Greek mythology buff, so I'm most familiar with Deucalion , but I vaguely know of myths from all around the Mediterranean

    • @frozengoat5834
      @frozengoat5834 Місяць тому

      Even ancient China has a primordial flood myth. Although they don't just survive their flood; they TAME it. Check out Yu the Great.

    • @raymondjurie9047
      @raymondjurie9047 Місяць тому +2

      As most of the major civilisations that we have inherited our written culture from were formed next to rivers that is no surprise. The Nile and Egyptian culture, Tigris & Euphrates city-states , Indus basin culture, and the river basin where Chines cultures flourished are responsible for this. It's amazing how integral their mythological/historical structures are to much of modern culture today.

  • @lewisleslie2821
    @lewisleslie2821 Місяць тому +1

    One thing I noticed about the DLC is the recurring theme of death in the lands of shadow. It is such a frequent theme that there are literally tombs bursting from the land (or as I like to think of it, the lands are literally made of/ fertilised by death), as exemplified by the spirit graves, “staircase coffins”, and of course the massive stone coffins.
    The Suppressing Tower reads: “all manners of death drift” to the land of shadow, which I interpret as: the land of shadow which we tread, is made from the accumulated death of all life that came before, like precipitating grime out of seawater.
    Awesome analysis as always! Love you TA

  • @giacobbosauro
    @giacobbosauro Місяць тому +25

    The best lore channel of Elden Ring community hands down

  • @Ton-uy1xd
    @Ton-uy1xd Місяць тому +10

    Couldn't wait to hear your take on this one. This is the most important channel for understanding elden ring lore.

  • @michaeljohnston8891
    @michaeljohnston8891 Місяць тому +5

    You’re definitely onto something with the Dynasty being the precursor civilization to Enir-Ilim. In the gaols, specifically the one under Belurat, there’s a heavy presence of Dynasty-style architecture, albeit slightly more ornate in ornamentation.
    It’s also curious that these gaols are where the Swordhands of Night are born. The atmospheric effects in the more expansive parts of the gaols are very reminiscent of the false Night we see in Nokstella, and although the game doesn’t have any built-in temperature gauge, these gaols are implied to be freezing cold, suggested by the presence of frozen maggots and frost coating various surfaces within.
    On a side note, I think this seems to reinforce a connection between Ranni’s Dark Moon and the Black Moon of Nokstella.

  • @justinsmith1141
    @justinsmith1141 Місяць тому +5

    The connections you make are always so good. Truly thought provoking and awe inspiring insight.

  • @Kalakmol
    @Kalakmol Місяць тому +7

    I remember thinking these could have been ‘generation ships’ for the Numen. That they may have been star faring. At least that was before more evidence came about. This is a good conclusion as well.

  • @TheProphet49
    @TheProphet49 Місяць тому +1

    You guys and Hawkshaw are the only channels I trust to do the full research every time a new video comes out. Looking forward to seeing what you can piece together regarding the Sun Realm and original Prince of Death.

  • @trevorhecht1478
    @trevorhecht1478 Місяць тому +1

    The concise and eloquent writing of this channel is unmatched. A breath of fresh air on UA-cam.

  • @SpiderdayNightLive
    @SpiderdayNightLive Місяць тому +3

    I love that the best Elden Ring lore videos are not-so-secretly science communication videos. You do an amazing job of teaching people how real scientists learn about the real ancient world, while constantly making me go OHHHHHH about a game ive played hundreds of hours of

  • @Mimiaga0
    @Mimiaga0 Місяць тому +5

    TA doesn't just cook, man runs a 5 start restaurant

  • @ПавелРазувайло
    @ПавелРазувайло Місяць тому +4

    The important detail in the DLC, referencing the taurus vessels. are the golden sculptures in the Belurat, depicting the boats with the apparent oxen design being used in some sort of ceremonial procession, likely funerary ritual. Take a look at that please!

  • @AdityaSingh-lp5rp
    @AdityaSingh-lp5rp 26 днів тому +1

    "Antediluvian" is a word with such an intense feeling of time

  • @sphyrnazygaena2690
    @sphyrnazygaena2690 Місяць тому +2

    My goodness!! The Mesopotamian inspiration is the key to unravel Marika´s betrayal!!! TA you are a treasure to the lore community!! Each and every episode is great! Cannot wait for the next one!

  • @DinoDragon6
    @DinoDragon6 Місяць тому +3

    This series feels like a mix between elden ring lore and trey the explainer.
    It's such delightful vibe. Intriguing, informative and relaxing.
    Looking forward to the next one

  • @enxman7697
    @enxman7697 Місяць тому +23

    He is back! And he got more discoveries! Praise be!

  • @benmccoy1766
    @benmccoy1766 Місяць тому +11

    I’ve been fascinated by this theory of yours since you first mentioned it in your Divine Towers video, glad to see my patience has been rewarded!

  • @T1mWarr3n
    @T1mWarr3n Місяць тому +4

    Brilliant as always! I swear, every video you post warrants a new playthrough of this brilliant game! The work you do does SO much to augment the pristine gameplay and sense of adventure that Elden Ring offers! Much love TA, been along for the ride since your first 500 subs or so! Keep it up and know your work is meaningful and deeply appreciated!!

  • @donkongo5272
    @donkongo5272 Місяць тому +5

    You citing Irving Finkel is like when a musician you love features another artist you love 😍 Your analysis is incredible!!

  • @dohminkonoha3200
    @dohminkonoha3200 Місяць тому +1

    Stone Ark and flood of fire is completely mind boggling unimaginable scene for me.

  • @TheFeralFerret
    @TheFeralFerret Місяць тому +6

    Our cups runneth over today! I've been anticipating a video along these lines for a long time, excited to watch!

  • @Crovax
    @Crovax Місяць тому +6

    i believe some of the answers to the bull iconography can be found on Dark Souls 2. The iron king is represented as a bull, and Yui worked his ass off on that game, and there's so much of ds2 in elden ring (like with the emerald herald and her purple eye). Maybe the answer lies there, in the forgotten dark souls game

    • @freshhands9461
      @freshhands9461 Місяць тому

      Iron King and his castle drowned in Lava, too. Sounds convincing

  • @steamedhamlet
    @steamedhamlet Місяць тому +13

    The marriage ritual atop the tower reminds me of the big snake from Sekiro's ritual. They offered up a bride in the tent where wolf stabs the serpent in the eye. Was Marika being offered up as a bride to that eiglay snake thing but she killed it and took the golden strands of life from its eye? And as Rykard-snake tells us "A serpent never dies"

  • @Ω3103ζ
    @Ω3103ζ Місяць тому +4

    What do you mean I need to wait another month for a episode??
    The best lore videos about elden ring no doubt, love it!!!

  • @SlightlyThrowed420
    @SlightlyThrowed420 Місяць тому +4

    Replaying demon souls ds1-2-3 bloodborne & sekiro after beating elden ring & its Dlc left me with many epiphanies in the lore & am still constantly unearthing some unsettling revelations with the hindsight of elden ring & The shadow of the erd tree
    Your work is very important. Super informative

  • @sportsracer48
    @sportsracer48 Місяць тому +43

    The screw pumps in the forges could be the source of such a magma flood - at least that's how it tends to happen in dwarf fortress XD

    • @captnduck
      @captnduck Місяць тому +2

      Hah indeed. Someone back then probably just tried to make lava moat.

    • @mmyr8ado.360
      @mmyr8ado.360 Місяць тому +7

      Since we only find them in forges, I believe they use lava as a heat source for forging. Since the Flames of Ruin belonged to the Fire Giants and are far away from the Land of Shadow, they use magma to mass produce weapons, armors and golems.

    • @sportsracer48
      @sportsracer48 Місяць тому +1

      @@mmyr8ado.360 yes I wasn't being serious. The volcanos or a meteor are much more likely

    • @monsieurdorgat6864
      @monsieurdorgat6864 Місяць тому +5

      As per your later comment, I'm in favor of the idea that the molten cataclysm was the apocalypse of the World Devouring Serpent of Gelmir, who is associated with magma. The Fire Giants were probably the survivors of the primeval titans, who in despair devoted themselves to a fell god that kept them alive (possibly via the knowledge of metal-smithing, using the magma to their advantage). The Elden Star that was fortold to Elden John (probably by Metyr, the first star to land) landed later, animating stone dragons from the magma and cooling the magma enough so that the land could be settled again.
      I'm guessing part of the reason that the Greater Will sent another set of Finger envoys to Marika's village was because the tower folk of Enir-Ilim and the dragons had strayed from Elden John's tree prophecy and were digging up the Rauh ruins - basically digging up the "Nephilim".

    • @Xandros999
      @Xandros999 Місяць тому

      The forges are weird. They don't natively have an access to above ground, they've all been dug into. So maybe they were there before the flood, but the architecture is Hornsent. Maybe Hornsent culture is much more ancient than I expected.

  • @Majoraspersona
    @Majoraspersona Місяць тому +2

    One thing I've been thinking about when re-exploring the base game areas is how it feels like some areas are "grafted" together. The Divine Bridge has a very strange and steep cut off with seemingly no rubble beneath it, and is pointedly not bridge like. Almost as if it was suddenly ripped away.

  • @lorenfulghum2393
    @lorenfulghum2393 Місяць тому +1

    You know you're listening to a legit Archaeologist once you hear them properly disparage Hyperdiffusionism. What a relief.

  • @rodolfodesouzalima2049
    @rodolfodesouzalima2049 Місяць тому +3

    Hey Tarnished Arch, another excellent video! I was thinking, maybe the great catastrophe was caused by the Titans, causing geological events, perhaps the emergence of Mount Gelmir (an active volcano) and ending the activities of Jagged Peak. It would be worth investigating

  • @priestboy16
    @priestboy16 Місяць тому +1

    I really sat here for 30 minutes watching a theoretical study of the archeology and history of a game. This is a rabbit hole I will never come out of.

  • @Didymus20X6
    @Didymus20X6 Місяць тому

    Here's what I love about this channel: I feel like I'm not just learning the fictional lore of the games, but also REAL WORLD HISTORY. Love your work.

  • @VeteranLekgolo
    @VeteranLekgolo Місяць тому +10

    Wooooo new video lets go!

  • @shm1883
    @shm1883 23 дні тому

    The ending was something else! Can't wait for more episodes of TA.. Souls games with TA, best content on UA-cam..

  • @ultrajari
    @ultrajari Місяць тому +2

    incredible work as always, no one does it like TA. super fascinating and satisfying answers to some things i wondered about

  • @huseyincolak8978
    @huseyincolak8978 Місяць тому +2

    Omfg, the ending of the video is just perfect. What a great parallel!

  • @TeddyPicker191
    @TeddyPicker191 Місяць тому +2

    The GOAT is back. Love the amount of effort and detail you put into your videos.

  • @sidewaysfcs0718
    @sidewaysfcs0718 Місяць тому +8

    32:40 This MUST tie into the Nephilim mythology, i think we also have some babylonian or sumerian sources talking about rituals where gods would partake in the marital ritual, producing "2/3 god, 1/3 human" offspring, which perfectly ties into the nephilim stories in the biblical account, both the canonical and apocryphal ones.

  • @Reidyne
    @Reidyne Місяць тому +1

    You make the best elden ring content around, full stop. Love the channel.

  • @sealswimswim354
    @sealswimswim354 Місяць тому +2

    Very insightful! I think the Dynast was a convert for the Scadu tree during the age of Placidusax. If the ancient dragons and titans shared a catastrophe, it would mirror the end of the dinosaurs.

  • @mathildec7776
    @mathildec7776 Місяць тому

    I was a bit sad to finish this DLC but also so thrilled because it meant I could come to your channel and watch your videos. This is such a great begining, your analysis and paralels with real world myths and history always blow my mind, thank you for making this game experience even greater than it already is!

  • @johndeighan2495
    @johndeighan2495 Місяць тому +3

    Excellent content, as always. This truly is one of the best channels on UA-cam.

  • @BobBlibor
    @BobBlibor Місяць тому +2

    After watching this video last night and thinking a little bit more on some ingame hints about what happened and drawing parallels between other ingame events, I have a few theories. The ships were a mass sacrifice event. Putrescence is "impure flesh", implying the people who are buried in the ships were not pure. Meaning the intent with the ships wasn't to save or even respect these people in death. I assume what happened here was a divine summoning ritual. In Elden Ring, those are always linked to mass suffering and mass sacrifice. Rather than being foretold the coming of a lava flood, the Dynast and his people called upon it. Might be the coming of the Fell God of Fire or some similar god, called with the intent of wiping out the world so a new one can be made in its place.

    • @BobBlibor
      @BobBlibor Місяць тому +1

      Further as you say "They are arcs meant to survive the coming of the flood" - I disagree, because for an arc meant for survival, you'd expect a door or some way to enter, and more importantly, exit the arc. We never enter any of these ships, because they are impossible to enter. The people encased in them were meant to die. While there are little stairs on top and it's clear the ships' decks were meant to be navigated, everything below was... basically people stuffed in a giant stone box. Essentially these ships are the progenitors of all jars. This is FromSoft - if there is something interesting to see, they will let us see it. They could've let us see the insides of these ships, they could've let us enter at least one of those. But we never could. There isn't even a broken one letting us see what's inside. So whatever was inside the ships was meant to die and become sludge.

  • @TheRealCreepyKid
    @TheRealCreepyKid Місяць тому

    Genuinely incredible, you are one of the few youtubers whose videos I refuse to do anything else while watching and just put all my focus on it.

  • @allendavis390
    @allendavis390 Місяць тому +1

    Finally, the oracle returns. So excited to hear upcoming video ❤

  • @Marikus_Eternal
    @Marikus_Eternal Місяць тому +3

    Baby wake up new Tarnished Archeology video dropped that will once again blow your mind and recontextualize everything you thought you knew about Elden Ring

  • @cgzepp
    @cgzepp Місяць тому

    I never thought I would get a history/anthropology lesson from an Elden Ring lore video. Absolutely amazing

  • @StylesX
    @StylesX Місяць тому +2

    The man, the myth, the legend has returned

  • @HDdeiu
    @HDdeiu Місяць тому +3

    Hmmm what obvious thing I've missed all along about the map icons of the divine towers, at least. The melted rock is in a very distinct color from the actual tower as in to signify that are of separate origin and as you say, of separate eras.

  • @wayfarerzen
    @wayfarerzen Місяць тому

    I live for stuff like this. Quite literally digging up entire stories from well-hidden details that turn out to be analogous to the real world myths. I love it.

  • @liuzhen2008
    @liuzhen2008 Місяць тому

    Absolutely love the unique approach you bring to Elden Ring lore! The way you seamlessly draw parallels between real-world history, mythology, and the intricate world of Elden Ring is nothing short of brilliant. It’s fascinating to see how you theorize the inspirations behind the game’s narrative and world-building, bringing a whole new level of depth to the lore. Your research and storytelling add so much richness to the experience-truly elevating the appreciation of the game. I really appreciate you making these videos. They are truly inspiring.

  • @optimalrefundable
    @optimalrefundable Місяць тому +13

    never clicked so fast 🎉

  • @arnoldkotlyarevsky383
    @arnoldkotlyarevsky383 Місяць тому +2

    Here is the problem with these videos: I keep going into them thinking that they have already hit bedrock on what the game has put out there, so I keep thinking the next video is going to be a rehash of the previous videos....but then every time they turn out to be incredible deep dives into similarities with our world's mythic past but with a twist. Remarkable.

  • @zaclovesschool2273
    @zaclovesschool2273 Місяць тому

    I've been going into anthropology and particularly archeology, and just wanted to say that these videos are always so well made and thoughtful. perfect examples of what an archeologist should be.

  • @Haywire13
    @Haywire13 Місяць тому +2

    Ive been checking the community channel weekly. Good to see this upload!

  • @jibawub8515
    @jibawub8515 Місяць тому +1

    These videos are insanely good, thank you so much for your service!

  • @NWolfsson
    @NWolfsson 18 годин тому

    21:55 That's really interesting insight. As someone consuming quite a lot of science fiction, the squarish face says "that's not a water or air ship, clearly that came from Space" and building a working model from that assumption.
    The way you're noting that, like barges, the Flood ships were described in a way more focused on structural integrity and space and didn't need steering, and as such weren't of a typical ship shape, is very important.

  • @squidknightx3459
    @squidknightx3459 Місяць тому

    Finding this channel is like digging up buried treasure. Using real life history and myth to help frame Fromsoft lore is two flavors of my interests I did not know I needed in one dish

  • @chariotghost9340
    @chariotghost9340 Місяць тому +1

    Many Fromsoft theorists are so speculative that their content is more about their creativity than the story’s depth.
    You base your theories in such concrete evidence that it’s not so much that I wonder and praise your findings,and more then I’m amazed, impressed, and more deeply intrigued by the story tellers at Fromsoft. And that’s the way strong analysis writhing should be. (Not that I’m not also very impressed by you, too!)
    Well done!

  • @oldladyhater
    @oldladyhater Місяць тому

    This is genuinely some incredible stuff. I don't even know what else to say besides that. This is incredible.

  • @captainxit5573
    @captainxit5573 Місяць тому +1

    Ahoy Hoy & Many Happy Travels Tarnished Dig Crew!
    I Hope You've Been Well & Safe.
    I Have Been Sayin' For A Good While Now That Some Sort Of Molten Rock Event Hit The Lands Between Hard. How It Was Caused Is The ~Big Unknown~, But Now We Have More Pieces To The Puzzle!
    Thank You So Much TA! I Hope You Had A Fantastic Time In The Land Of Shadow.
    I Can't Wait To See What Else You've Found.😊

  • @trenbolone007
    @trenbolone007 Місяць тому +1

    Wow!!! This is deep and very well researched. You sir are a genius. I wonder what Hidetaka Miyazaki or the folks at FROM SOFTWARE think of all your in depth videos. Love'em. Thank you so much for taking the time to research, post & share with us. Look forward to more Elden Ring content.