Lore for the boss: the player character was once a human named Carlo and he had a best friend named Romeo. Carlo died and his father placed his soul into a puppet, giving us the player character. However he doesn’t remember his time as a human as he only seems to get brief flashes of his past near the end of the game. He’s basically Carlo reincarnated. Romeo would also be made into the King of the Puppets and the creator of the puppets would use the code within the puppets to force him to kill people. Romeo recognizes the player character and tries to talk to us to get us but we can’t understand the language of the puppets until later in the game. When you fight him again in new game + you realize that he’s asking us to help him. The tragedy is that the player character is unknowingly killing his best friend who he doesn’t remember.
Best part is you can technically read the subtitles right from the start if you squint hard enough, so you can get a slightly deeper look into the story fairly early on or flesh out a character further if you want.
Honestly it definitely is up there, especially with how much the music adds to the whole world, I love the classical music playing in Rosa Isabelle's street.
Fr I loved all the random environmental details like the gramophone and the one house where someone is playing an instrument it made the world feel so much more alive
The interesting things is that the title of this song in game is "Stage of Grief" for 1st phase, then "Shattered Memories" for phase 2. King of Puppets is sad that Carlo didn't recognize him, that Carlo doesn't understand the frenzy was caused by Gepetto and King wants to stop it and he needs Carlo's help. When he's finally materialized as Romeo, he knows that all their childhood memories are gone. Romeo is forced to fight and kill Carlo to stop him.
Lies of P health pack regain system is something I hope to see show up in more games. Made boss fights insanely tense when you’re down to 1% health but 2 hits away from regaining some health.
@@danilthorstensson8902 good lookin out. I have indeed played bloodborne. I love the damage recovery in that game as well. Encourages getting into the face of the scary shit you’re fighting.
@@danilthorstensson8902 bloodborne don't have the same health regain.. the healing item is not even permanent, you have to buy it unlike estus flask or pulse cell
Nah it's not that good,I think all the french music's,why,wing of hypocrisy,stage of grief and hotel krat are all S tier but aside from that the other tracks are horrible
@@algorometrikus9380 ah yes sorry I forgot estela opera house,but the others you just mentioned aren't that good,I just tried to listen to them for a couple of times buy they didn't feel really good to listen to
A fun fact about this ost, the studio that made this game used to work on rhythm games in the style of DDR. Most of the tracks that P can listen to to gain humanity, the tracks like Feel, Quixotic, Why, etc, were originally electronic songs to match the style of their rhythm games
Oh this theme is one of my FAVOURITES! The boss fight is incredible as well! We were both down to 1 hit when I finally beat him and my hands were shaking so much after! One of the best bosses, no doubt!
I believe most comparisons come from the fact that lies of p is a quality soulslike made by a company that is not fromsoft, so people tend to compare it to the closest thing there is. The music is great, and the game knows that, providing records to listen to, and amazing themes. I cant help but get frustrated at some battles at times then be like, well at least the musics good. My favorite boss theme being of simon manus' and his arm of god songs, (also my favorite fight) Another song that is amazing at conveying emotion is Nameless Chaos, where all you feel is this eery frightening feeling throughout the whole song, conveying the feeling as you fight a quite honestly horrifying boss at the end of the game. fear instilled in you through sight and sound. I love this game, i finished it all in the first week of relese, all ending and all collectibles. Such a great game. And my first soulslike
I would disagree about the attention. In my opinion when a hidden gem like this flies under the radar, achieving its short moment of glory, that is when both you and the devs know that it is a masterpiece and nothing more needs to be said. No nitpicking, no negotiations, no standard keeping, just a good game that everyone appreciates and speaks nothing about, solidifying its place.
I don’t understand the bloodborne comparing. Sure they can look similar in areas but they play very very different. It’s more of a sekiro/elden ring in terms of combat with the deflecting and stance breaking. Weapon system is unique to lies as well. Fables are similar to ashes of war. The only combat mechanic similar in bloodborne is the quickstep dodging. The rest I don’t see it. Similar throwbacks in terms of npc’s as well too i guess.
リクエストに答えて下さりありがとう御座います！(私のリクエストだけが見られたはわかりませんが) あなたが曲を聞いただけでこの曲がレクイエムの様であるとか、その中にある感情を読み取ったり、複雑なコードまでキーボードに起こしていて凄いと思いました！ 第二フェーズの曲調の変化も、私がただ聞いただけでは気づけないような事も見抜いていて、音楽理論を理解していて洞察力もある人が聞くと何度も聞いた音楽にこんなにも厚みが出るんだと思いました！ 他にもLies of Pにはめっちゃ良い曲が沢山あるので、是非聴いてみて下さい！ Thank you for responding to my request! (I don't know if you saw only my request). I thought it was great that you were able to read the emotions in the song, like the song is a requiem, and even the complex chords on the keyboard just by listening to the song! You were also able to detect changes in tone in the second phase that I would not have noticed if I had just listened to the song. I was amazed at how much depth can be added to music heard many times by someone who understands music theory and has insight into the music! There are so many other songs on Lies of P that are so good, please give them a listen!
I found your youtube channel whilst i search for someone make a ost reaction for bloodborne, now whenever i found good game music,i immediately see if you already make a video reacting it.Tbh your the only youtuber i watch reacting a game ost because most people just said it was good/it's so catchy...bla...bla..bla,but you improve by guessing the entire lore of the boss fight by just hearing its ost,that itself is amazing. Hope you make more lies of p videos!!!
Yea Davi is absolutely incredible especially with his massive technical understanding! Someone who is similar but takes a more emotional approach is called @MarcoMeatball. Not sure if he’s covered lies of p but they react to very similar themes all around.
So happy to see Lies of P on your channel and with one of my favorite themes. Also one of the best bossfights in the game. The best part about it is that when we first fight the King of Puppets, we don't even know, why this fight is so sad. But later we find out, we've been fighting and in the end killing our best friend. Would love to see your take on Nameless Chaos. It's from my personal favorite bossfight of the game and that theme made the already tough bossfight just way scarier!
When you said "requiem", it kinda clicked to me... It is the death of a friendship 😢 The story of this fight is truly sad and one of my most favorite moments of the game. Romeo, you are the King, king.
To explain, the first phase is Romeo, the king of puppets somberly mourning his memories with his best friend, our character, Carlo who is now engaged in battle over a misunderstanding, seemingly holding no memory of who Romeo is or what he is trying to achieve. In the first phase Romeo is still holding onto those memories and trying to encourage us to stop fighting and join him. But as the battle progresses he is torn between saving his friend and protecting his plan when Carlo nearly kills him. However, second phase he makes up his mind and realizes there is no saving us, he has to destroy us or all of Krat will be ruined forever. He doesn’t want to do this, but he must. The snap of anger and ruthlessness in the second phase is Romeo’s desperation and terrible inner confliction over killing his long lost friend.
Oooh i love lies of p, you should listen to some of the ingame collectible record songs. Such as Feel, Why, Shadow Flower, or Fascination. Theyre a great addition to the game. A couple of the records also have lyrics, in english, korean, or french. (Game's korean, set in a european city)
You should check out his latest stream then, because he reacted to Feel there. He has not reacted to those other ones, though. Edit: Shadow Flower is a must!
Here's a recommendation: wing of hypocrisy. It's the theme of fallen archbishop andreus, one of the most important characters in the game and one of the major bosses.
I was just wondering when you would analyze Lies of P OST. This boss is amazing. Yet, another one stole my heart in the game... the one who swore to protect a certain tower...
There are so many great pieces in the Lies of P OST. Almost every boss theme is powerful and memorable. Some standouts: Parade Master, Scrapped Watchman, Champion Victor, Black Rabbit Brotherhood, Laxasia, Nameless Puppet. And then you have all the extra tracks you find on records in the world, some of them being stunningly beautiful. Just an incredibly well-done OST all around.
You perfectly got the context of this boss fight simply from the emotional complexities of the music. It is the death of either Carlo, the player character, or Romeo, his childhood best friend. They are pitted against each other by Carlo's father, Gepetto. This is why Lies of P is my favorite game. The music is so crucial to the game, not only in boss fights but in records that you gather on side quests. The emotion is so very compelling. It's a bittersweet story, haunting at times but hopeful at others.
In my opinion they are not comparable at all the games itself are very similar though Lies of P draws clear inspiration from Fromsoft but sets itself appart which makes it standout even more
i guess you can compare it to bloodborne through the setting, and it does borrow a specific mechanic from from bloodborne as well, but the gameplay is much more block / parry oriented, so ig its more similar to sekiro? Its definetly not ripped off bloodborne, more off of all the other soulsbornes all together, tho id be interested to hear about other peoples perspective on the themes
Music in this game remains on my daily playlists and I think about it all the time. I couldnt even tell you a souls game song Ive listened to outside of the games lol, while having thousands of hours in those games across all the titles. This games OST is truly incredible to experience as you go and see the connections between the characters and songs
If you want some other great songs from Lies of P, Fascination (rose isablee street/golden disc version) is incredible.. In the context you find it it is both haunting and beautiful
Another boss theme I definitely reccomend listening to is the theme for Nameless Puppet (Nameless Chaos), the way it incorporated the feelings of betrayal, horror, and dread was just really well executed!
Very good video David, I recommend you listen to the songs nameless puppet, and laxassia the complete one, I'm sure you'll like it, and a shout out from Brazil.
SPOILER: Requiem: Yes, You and the King of Puppets were very good friends in your past lives. Maybe the theme reflects the death of the friendship and the sadness that produces not to be able to communicate with your friend (from Romeo's perspective, he just keep talking to you but in the first playthrough you just receive gibberish in the subtitle track). During the first half you are directed towards this king of puppets as someone who must to be put down in order to save the city... but you realize that not the King, but the Master of puppets is the real enemy. That is my interpretation whatsoever, Lies of P is a really astounding and masterful game on their own merits. Thank you for picking this great theme to review!
Yes!!!!!!!!!!! Ive been waiting for this for so long. Thank you Davi. your ability to understand music is so amazing, and I knew you'd love lies of P. please check out Green and greed, nameless puppet, and laxsasia
Longing is the perfect way to describe the King of Puppets. And funeral music makes sense- it’s a tragic funeral for whoever loses, made all the sadder by the lore. Awesome video!
The 3 primary inspirations behind lies of p are bloodborne, sekiro, and Pinocchio. It's very faithful to these three inspirations while still having a unique take on their formulas.
Jajajaja, ofc you did the video with the thumbnail and the title, well done Davi! About the video, the first part is very cool, it gives me the same feeling as Grime's tracks, very sophisticated, the second phase though... like fighting a dinosaur. That's it. ¡Adiós!
Most boss soundtracks are not as good as most FromSoft soundtracks. Especially because most of them sound almost the same except having different melodies to them. They’re just not as advanced on a technical level (which is completely fine because it’s literally their first souls game they ever made). The king of puppets is one of the few exceptions when it comes to identify and variety. His theme is amazing. BUT it’s a really good OST. Lies of P is basically the only game that ever came close to FromSofts story, atmosphere and overall feeling. The sound design also plays a big part in that. It’s a good game and I can’t wait for the DLC and the sequel. My favorite track has to be ”Rabbits on the hunt“. In my opinion the by far the most complex boss theme from the OST. Also fun fact: they knew they had great taste in music so they actually rewarded the player with exclusive soundtracks you can get via completing quests. Those are completely different from what you usually hear in the game when it comes to music genres. It’s a really well implemented and great concept.
The boss fight OSTs were really nice in LoP, but the most impact was from another track, that you can listen to in Hotel Krat: Feel. The melody, the singing, the lyrics. It's like a love letter. As for this Soundtrack, I think Shadowlord from NieR:Replicant ver. 1.22 would sound similar. Looking forward, what kind of piece you will cover next ;)
As far as FromSoft Games are concerned, I kinda think something in the melody of this reminds me a tiny bit of Flamelurker, especially Bluepoint's version of it.
Of course the gameplay footage features the two dragons sword with its overpowered counter attacks. It does take some talent to use properly, but boy does it do damage. Also this is one of my favorite tracks for sure.
Yeah, I think the King of Puppets (as in the character), is emphasising and mourning the death of the player character, our stubbornes to continue on the path we were set on and which will lead us to owr demise and our death being used, and so King of Puppets mourns owr choice, but also decides that the best that can be done is if he defeats us and then... idk, maybe he thinks that that's a mercy to kill us now, or he plans to reason with us after capturing us but we just win in canon, this whole comment is mostly a speculation and how I see this fight and why requiem was chosen for it.
*Full Lore Rundown: Schemes of Geppetto and tragedy of Romeo* *DO NOT CLICK “READ MORE”* if you don’t want an essay covering the comments The character we play as who we know as “P” was a puppet created by Geppetto who was seemingly resurrected by a lady named Sophia to save Geppetto, our creator. After saving Geppetto from the clutches of puppets and hunters we then get to speak with him, where he then proclaims us to be his son and vaguely asks us to save Krat from the puppet frenzy. Thus setting up our role in the story as the hero. That is all we know about our character from the start of the game. However, later into the game, we learn there is more to P’s story than meets the eye. P as it would seem was once human, or at least the soul present within his body was. It is discovered that all the puppets within Krat house that of human souls, channeled into an energy called Ergo. *What is Ergo?* Think of Ergo as sort of soul energy. Once it is placed within a puppet, it brings them to life without any need for maintenance or recharge. An infinite energy source that can even grant the lifeless puppets it possesses pure sentience. Knowing that Ergo is soul energy, you would imagine that the souls present within that energy would retain the characteristics or even memories that they had in life. As the game progresses this thought is proven to be true as P will slowly recall flashbacks of his souls life, the soul of Carlo, Geptepto’s real son. The most important memories we see from Carlo are that of his caring mother and most importantly, his best friend, Romeo. A young boy who cared for Carlo in the absence of his father and the loss of his mother to illness. A true ally to him in his time of need. *Yes, Romeo is indeed the boss we face in this battle, but who is Romeo? And what happened to him?* To explain that we must first discuss the death of Carlo and the cruel mission of Geppetto. During the time in which Carlo was alive, an epidemic had plunged golden city of Krat into a ruin infested by plague and sickness. A new disease had spread across Krat called the Petrification Disease. As the name suggests, it was a brutal virus which would slowly harden the organs and limbs of those inflicted until they were no more than inanimate statues. Carlos mother was one of the first to fall bedridden to this disease, Carlo following a year or two after. Geppeto, torn with grief over the sudden loss of both his dearest love and beloved son fell into a pit of despair for several years, shutting himself away from the world. Within this grief the depths of his depravity would soon be realized as his talents as an inventor would serve as a cruel instrument in a vile scheme. Romeo, unfortunately, would fall victim to Geppetto’s insanity. After the death of Carlo, Romeo felt indebted to his family and thus asked Geppetto if there was anything he could do to help him as he had Carlo. A pure soul if there ever was one. Unfortunately, through a series of manipulations Geppetto would take the good will of Romeo and turn it against him, killing Carlo’s childhood friend for his loyalty, extracting the Ergo from his corpse, and implanting it within the Puppet king. A large mecha that once installed within the chain of command, would gain control over every puppet in the city of Krat, like a sort of queen bee. Now I said before that the souls infused with puppets would retain original characteristics similar to P, however in the case of average puppets, recalling characteristics and even memories is a rare concept. Once a soul is turned into Ergo, all of that individuality is lost. However, over time a puppet can retain those characteristics they had as a human. This sort of self-discovery is called “awakening” when a puppet fully remembers who they are and retain their humanity, gaining the power of free will. However, in the case of a newly born Romeo, that freedom cannot be afforded, awakening takes time to come about. Unfortunately not enough time. As within the first days of Romeo’s new life his was given a command by his creator to spread to all his subjects. “Kill every living thing you can see” Upon the issue of that vile command by their creator, every puppet within the puppet reliant city of Krat turned on its citizens. …And thus, the puppet frenzy began, a massacre of every living resident in Krat. With Romeo, the brainwashed, seemingly witless left as the sole one responsible for such a terrible, terrible tragedy. Eventually Romeo would awaken and put a halt to the frenzy but by that point, the damage had already been done, the entire city of Krat devoid of life, excepting the few survivors so terribly traumatized they couldn’t bare sharing a presence with a puppet again. *But why would Geppetto do such a thing? Where is the merit or even purpose in executing such a drastic massacre of Krat, the city he helped to build?* Well, for that we must back track to the early years of Geppetto’s grief. Within his first year of grief he studied the petrification disease, his findings leading him to an organization called the alchemists. A ancient group of fanatical scientists only renowned for the coldness and cruelty of their experiments behind closed doors. desperately attempting to achieve what they call “the evolution of humanity.” However, the results of their endeavors lead to that of terribly disfigured monsters which could be equated to nothing more that twisted husks of their former selves. Both Carlo and his mother recent victims of their efforts. Upon discovering the plans of the Alchemists, Geppetto put together a cruel plan that would both ensure the downfall of the alchemists and inevitably lead to the revival of his son. *The point of Geppetto’s plan?* Remember how I mentioned Ergo being Soul Energy and how Ergo often does not retain the characteristics of how they were in life? Well, according to Geppetto, his notes, and the progressive transformation of our character throughout the story: if enough Ergo is collected by a single puppet, that puppet will retain the memories his soul had in life and thus, revive themselves. I think you understand why Geppetto would do such a thing hearing that. Returning to the present: Yes, his plan is to slaughter the millions of residents in Krat to not only make them ripe for collection, but to interfere in the alchemists plans of evolution but killing everyone poisoned by the petrification disease. A sort of mass cleansing to wipe away the efforts of the alchemists through execution and leaving the ergo remnants for P to collect from the corpses of Krat’s residents and the mindlessly aggressive puppets seeking to exterminate all life. Meanwhile, he uses this tragedy as a way to motivate a reborn Carlo to go out and defeat the puppets to collect the Ergo pinning everything on Romeo and his control over the puppets, leading P to believe he is a hero thwarting senseless evil when we learn later on that was merely an illusion of the full picture. He is puppeteering the entire story as we have come to understand it behind the scenes. However, Geppetto is not the only one who is aware of this plot. Romeo also knows it as well. However, Romeo is seemingly left powerless in this entire scenario. Despite his efforts in the game he cannot explain to P Geppetto’s twisted plan. His speech is garbled, his figure distorted, his control over the puppets manageable at best, it even comes to a point where he quite literally plays charades with P by preforming a show in the theatre which illustrates Geppetto’s plan to warn P, but no matter what, we the player and P can and will not listen to reason, refusing his offers to join him time and time again. It is also made clear that Romeo knows P is Carlo, making the interactions with him and his “messengers” all the more tragic, he wants only to save his old friend from the twisted scheme of his father and save Krat from his evil. But no matter what, a battle occurs, forcing both P and Romeo to fight to the bitter end. A fight so intense that arena begins to burn down in the chaos, symbolizing the deteriorating will of Romeo to save his friend or destroy him to stop Geppetto. It is so utterly twisted that things turn out this way, all orchestrated by the man we come to call our family, Geppetto. How cold and conniving do you have to be to commit to such atrocities and wear a smile? At the end of all this death, this scheming, the lies, the deception, the manipulation, the depravity… It was all Geppetto, a seemingly kind old man, pulling the strings All to revive his son, 1 life traded for millions. It is only after we defeat Romeo we come to understand what he was holding back, the nobility in it, tragedy of his powerlessness in the story, and the terrible mistake we have made defeating him. I don’t think I have ever felt this bad after conquering a boss, I felt like I was personally cheated by Geppetto by the end of the game and if a game like this could make me feel that for a made up character then that is how you know it’s brilliant writing.
You actually got that when you "sensed" the "death notes" in there: SPOILER During the last level of the game you realize that the one who Pinocchio fought was his best friend in their previous lives, so before becoming both puppets. So the "death" notes can be translated as the death of a friendship that the king of puppets still desires to be a reality... But when he realizes that his friend doesn't remember him he gets mad and realizes that the only thing he can do is fighting him with all his strength. A very sad decision that nobody would have to choice. Basically, (personal opinion) these themes are what the king of puppets is feeling fighting against the player and not the opposite.
Sorry, but objectively the music in this game was pretty sophisticated. I’m a Fromsoft cultist but this game’s music was special, despite your taste in OST’s or bias towards any souls likes. The music is what I remember from this game. Expressed real emotion.
I wiuld recomend anilation from remnant 2 as another good game ost but in first playthrough puppets speack but u cant ubderstand them however subtitles are there in braize like letters so u can sonetimes infer what is being said yntil ng plus were u know for sure
Lore for the boss: the player character was once a human named Carlo and he had a best friend named Romeo. Carlo died and his father placed his soul into a puppet, giving us the player character. However he doesn’t remember his time as a human as he only seems to get brief flashes of his past near the end of the game. He’s basically Carlo reincarnated.
Romeo would also be made into the King of the Puppets and the creator of the puppets would use the code within the puppets to force him to kill people.
Romeo recognizes the player character and tries to talk to us to get us but we can’t understand the language of the puppets until later in the game. When you fight him again in new game + you realize that he’s asking us to help him.
The tragedy is that the player character is unknowingly killing his best friend who he doesn’t remember.
once i realized the twist, its hard to face him after that fact, i wish there was an ending where you could join forces with him.
Best part is you can technically read the subtitles right from the start if you squint hard enough, so you can get a slightly deeper look into the story fairly early on or flesh out a character further if you want.
Honestly it definitely is up there, especially with how much the music adds to the whole world, I love the classical music playing in Rosa Isabelle's street.
Fr I loved all the random environmental details like the gramophone and the one house where someone is playing an instrument it made the world feel so much more alive
The interesting things is that the title of this song in game is "Stage of Grief" for 1st phase, then "Shattered Memories" for phase 2. King of Puppets is sad that Carlo didn't recognize him, that Carlo doesn't understand the frenzy was caused by Gepetto and King wants to stop it and he needs Carlo's help. When he's finally materialized as Romeo, he knows that all their childhood memories are gone. Romeo is forced to fight and kill Carlo to stop him.
Lies of P health pack regain system is something I hope to see show up in more games. Made boss fights insanely tense when you’re down to 1% health but 2 hits away from regaining some health.
Have you played Bloodborne?
@@danilthorstensson8902 good lookin out. I have indeed played bloodborne. I love the damage recovery in that game as well. Encourages getting into the face of the scary shit you’re fighting.
@@danilthorstensson8902 bloodborne don't have the same health regain.. the healing item is not even permanent, you have to buy it unlike estus flask or pulse cell
@@danilthorstensson8902 30fps
@@aidanvallee1458 you get used to it
Lies of P ost never fails
Nah it's not that good,I think all the french music's,why,wing of hypocrisy,stage of grief and hotel krat are all S tier but aside from that the other tracks are horrible
Judgement of Mourning, Apostles of Evolution, Arm of God, Rabbit on the hunt, Estella Opera House and Green and Greed are very good
@@algorometrikus9380 ah yes sorry I forgot estela opera house,but the others you just mentioned aren't that good,I just tried to listen to them for a couple of times buy they didn't feel really good to listen to
@@khashygeld9776 ... Are you deaf? "Horrible", seriously?
@@dirac_dydx1830 yup horrible,it's awful except some tracks
A fun fact about this ost, the studio that made this game used to work on rhythm games in the style of DDR. Most of the tracks that P can listen to to gain humanity, the tracks like Feel, Quixotic, Why, etc, were originally electronic songs to match the style of their rhythm games
Oh this theme is one of my FAVOURITES! The boss fight is incredible as well! We were both down to 1 hit when I finally beat him and my hands were shaking so much after! One of the best bosses, no doubt!
I believe most comparisons come from the fact that lies of p is a quality soulslike made by a company that is not fromsoft, so people tend to compare it to the closest thing there is. The music is great, and the game knows that, providing records to listen to, and amazing themes. I cant help but get frustrated at some battles at times then be like, well at least the musics good. My favorite boss theme being of simon manus' and his arm of god songs, (also my favorite fight) Another song that is amazing at conveying emotion is Nameless Chaos, where all you feel is this eery frightening feeling throughout the whole song, conveying the feeling as you fight a quite honestly horrifying boss at the end of the game. fear instilled in you through sight and sound.
I love this game, i finished it all in the first week of relese, all ending and all collectibles. Such a great game. And my first soulslike
Lies of P deserves more attentions. It's quite a really good soul-like game. To me it's just like a fan-made Bloodborne 2.
To me, honestly, it’s on par with Bloodborne.
I would disagree about the attention. In my opinion when a hidden gem like this flies under the radar, achieving its short moment of glory, that is when both you and the devs know that it is a masterpiece and nothing more needs to be said. No nitpicking, no negotiations, no standard keeping, just a good game that everyone appreciates and speaks nothing about, solidifying its place.
Objectively better than Bloodborne
I don’t understand the bloodborne comparing. Sure they can look similar in areas but they play very very different. It’s more of a sekiro/elden ring in terms of combat with the deflecting and stance breaking. Weapon system is unique to lies as well. Fables are similar to ashes of war. The only combat mechanic similar in bloodborne is the quickstep dodging. The rest I don’t see it. Similar throwbacks in terms of npc’s as well too i guess.
@@edmarcamy blood-borne is overrated
リクエストに答えて下さりありがとう御座います！(私のリクエストだけが見られたはわかりませんが)
あなたが曲を聞いただけでこの曲がレクイエムの様であるとか、その中にある感情を読み取ったり、複雑なコードまでキーボードに起こしていて凄いと思いました！
第二フェーズの曲調の変化も、私がただ聞いただけでは気づけないような事も見抜いていて、音楽理論を理解していて洞察力もある人が聞くと何度も聞いた音楽にこんなにも厚みが出るんだと思いました！
他にもLies of Pにはめっちゃ良い曲が沢山あるので、是非聴いてみて下さい！
Thank you for responding to my request! (I don't know if you saw only my request).
I thought it was great that you were able to read the emotions in the song, like the song is a requiem, and even the complex chords on the keyboard just by listening to the song!
You were also able to detect changes in tone in the second phase that I would not have noticed if I had just listened to the song. I was amazed at how much depth can be added to music heard many times by someone who understands music theory and has insight into the music!
There are so many other songs on Lies of P that are so good, please give them a listen!
The King of Puppets fight is as amazing as the theme. One of the best of the game for sure
😂Phase 2 destroyed me when I first played the game. They nerfed it later for a good reason.
@@グウィンドリン-t4xI’m pretty sure phase 1 was nerfed. Not phase 2
@@MMHGaming73 both
@@coldseraphim playing the fight again after beating the game for the first time makes the fight hit different in the feels
King of puppets, laxasia and nameless puppet are a cut above the rest of the bosses in lies of p.
I found your youtube channel whilst i search for someone make a ost reaction for bloodborne,
now whenever i found good game music,i immediately see if you already make a video reacting it.Tbh your the only youtuber i watch reacting a game ost because most people just said it was good/it's so catchy...bla...bla..bla,but you improve by guessing the entire lore of the boss fight by just hearing its ost,that itself is amazing.
Hope you make more lies of p videos!!!
Yea Davi is absolutely incredible especially with his massive technical understanding! Someone who is similar but takes a more emotional approach is called @MarcoMeatball. Not sure if he’s covered lies of p but they react to very similar themes all around.
Another BANGER from my king Davi Vasc. I love this guy
So happy to see Lies of P on your channel and with one of my favorite themes. Also one of the best bossfights in the game. The best part about it is that when we first fight the King of Puppets, we don't even know, why this fight is so sad. But later we find out, we've been fighting and in the end killing our best friend.
Would love to see your take on Nameless Chaos. It's from my personal favorite bossfight of the game and that theme made the already tough bossfight just way scarier!
When you said "requiem", it kinda clicked to me... It is the death of a friendship 😢 The story of this fight is truly sad and one of my most favorite moments of the game. Romeo, you are the King, king.
Romeo is the best character in the game, and he's literally only seen once.
To explain, the first phase is Romeo, the king of puppets somberly mourning his memories with his best friend, our character, Carlo who is now engaged in battle over a misunderstanding, seemingly holding no memory of who Romeo is or what he is trying to achieve. In the first phase Romeo is still holding onto those memories and trying to encourage us to stop fighting and join him. But as the battle progresses he is torn between saving his friend and protecting his plan when Carlo nearly kills him.
However, second phase he makes up his mind and realizes there is no saving us, he has to destroy us or all of Krat will be ruined forever. He doesn’t want to do this, but he must. The snap of anger and ruthlessness in the second phase is Romeo’s desperation and terrible inner confliction over killing his long lost friend.
Oooh i love lies of p, you should listen to some of the ingame collectible record songs. Such as Feel, Why, Shadow Flower, or Fascination. Theyre a great addition to the game. A couple of the records also have lyrics, in english, korean, or french. (Game's korean, set in a european city)
You should check out his latest stream then, because he reacted to Feel there. He has not reacted to those other ones, though.
Edit: Shadow Flower is a must!
@@michaelcreel6522 ooh thx for lettin me know
It is on par with From Software's games imo. Tough, but fun. The music is amazing
Here's a recommendation: wing of hypocrisy. It's the theme of fallen archbishop andreus, one of the most important characters in the game and one of the major bosses.
I was just wondering when you would analyze Lies of P OST. This boss is amazing. Yet, another one stole my heart in the game... the one who swore to protect a certain tower...
Hell yes.
There are so many great pieces in the Lies of P OST. Almost every boss theme is powerful and memorable. Some standouts: Parade Master, Scrapped Watchman, Champion Victor, Black Rabbit Brotherhood, Laxasia, Nameless Puppet. And then you have all the extra tracks you find on records in the world, some of them being stunningly beautiful. Just an incredibly well-done OST all around.
Lies of P has such beautiful music. Such an underrated game. "Fascination" is my favorite piece from it, both the instrumental and the vocals.
lies of p is seriously goated, got about 300 hours on it and loved every moment
King of puppets/romeo is my favorite fight in the entire game. Its amazing . I love lies of p
The moveset, the Arena, the design, the music, the lore, the character, everything is awesome in this fight
It's a masterpiece of boss design. As much as I personally like Laxasia more, Romeo is better designed overall.
You perfectly got the context of this boss fight simply from the emotional complexities of the music. It is the death of either Carlo, the player character, or Romeo, his childhood best friend. They are pitted against each other by Carlo's father, Gepetto.
This is why Lies of P is my favorite game. The music is so crucial to the game, not only in boss fights but in records that you gather on side quests. The emotion is so very compelling. It's a bittersweet story, haunting at times but hopeful at others.
In my opinion they are not comparable at all the games itself are very similar though Lies of P draws clear inspiration from Fromsoft but sets itself appart which makes it standout even more
I'm happy to see the Lies of P getting some love. You should listen to the other songs from the game!
da moment 2nd phase hits, romeo decides to embrace his inner 'lady maria' and go ape shit against us.
he's done asking us nicely lol
i guess you can compare it to bloodborne through the setting, and it does borrow a specific mechanic from from bloodborne as well, but the gameplay is much more block / parry oriented, so ig its more similar to sekiro? Its definetly not ripped off bloodborne, more off of all the other soulsbornes all together, tho id be interested to hear about other peoples perspective on the themes
I highly recommend checking out some of the records within Lies of P. My suggestions are Quixotic, Someday, and Feel
I keep getting blown away by how much information you (CORRECTLY) gather from music like this. Much love Davi
Finally someone reacts to lies of p music 🎉
Music in this game remains on my daily playlists and I think about it all the time. I couldnt even tell you a souls game song Ive listened to outside of the games lol, while having thousands of hours in those games across all the titles. This games OST is truly incredible to experience as you go and see the connections between the characters and songs
If you want some other great songs from Lies of P, Fascination (rose isablee street/golden disc version) is incredible.. In the context you find it it is both haunting and beautiful
We need more Lies of P musics contents.
Fascination is one of the best of all time imo.
Best track in the game IMO. The pure sorrow in the first part would fit perfectly in any tragic play (which is fitting given the boss arena).
Another boss theme I definitely reccomend listening to is the theme for Nameless Puppet (Nameless Chaos), the way it incorporated the feelings of betrayal, horror, and dread was just really well executed!
Please take a look at more Lies of P music, not just boss themes, but Records as well
Very good video David, I recommend you listen to the songs nameless puppet, and laxassia the complete one, I'm sure you'll like it, and a shout out from Brazil.
SPOILER:
Requiem:
Yes, You and the King of Puppets were very good friends in your past lives. Maybe the theme reflects the death of the friendship and the sadness that produces not to be able to communicate with your friend (from Romeo's perspective, he just keep talking to you but in the first playthrough you just receive gibberish in the subtitle track). During the first half you are directed towards this king of puppets as someone who must to be put down in order to save the city... but you realize that not the King, but the Master of puppets is the real enemy.
That is my interpretation whatsoever, Lies of P is a really astounding and masterful game on their own merits.
Thank you for picking this great theme to review!
I don't know that much about music, but I agree that it sounds like a requiem - makes me feel very sad and melancholy.
Thank you for watching Caroline!
So, basically:
Phase 1: Twin Princes
Phase 2: Vordt phase 2
Please try out Divine service, apostles of evolution, wing of hypocrisy and arm of god
Yes!!!!!!!!!!! Ive been waiting for this for so long. Thank you Davi. your ability to understand music is so amazing, and I knew you'd love lies of P. please check out Green and greed, nameless puppet, and laxsasia
Longing is the perfect way to describe the King of Puppets. And funeral music makes sense- it’s a tragic funeral for whoever loses, made all the sadder by the lore. Awesome video!
The 3 primary inspirations behind lies of p are bloodborne, sekiro, and Pinocchio. It's very faithful to these three inspirations while still having a unique take on their formulas.
Fallen Archbishop andreus is one boss in lies of p I beat recently, and I recommend reacting to their theme as it's a great theme.
Highly recommend the hotel krat ost. I have not experienced anything else like it.
Jajajaja, ofc you did the video with the thumbnail and the title, well done Davi! About the video, the first part is very cool, it gives me the same feeling as Grime's tracks, very sophisticated, the second phase though... like fighting a dinosaur. That's it. ¡Adiós!
You should give Dark Deception's songs a chance, you'll like them!
Phase 2 sounds a lot like most of the Path of Exile sound track. Epic stuff.
Most boss soundtracks are not as good as most FromSoft soundtracks. Especially because most of them sound almost the same except having different melodies to them. They’re just not as advanced on a technical level (which is completely fine because it’s literally their first souls game they ever made). The king of puppets is one of the few exceptions when it comes to identify and variety. His theme is amazing.
BUT it’s a really good OST. Lies of P is basically the only game that ever came close to FromSofts story, atmosphere and overall feeling. The sound design also plays a big part in that. It’s a good game and I can’t wait for the DLC and the sequel. My favorite track has to be ”Rabbits on the hunt“. In my opinion the by far the most complex boss theme from the OST.
Also fun fact: they knew they had great taste in music so they actually rewarded the player with exclusive soundtracks you can get via completing quests. Those are completely different from what you usually hear in the game when it comes to music genres. It’s a really well implemented and great concept.
The boss fight OSTs were really nice in LoP, but the most impact was from another track, that you can listen to in Hotel Krat: Feel. The melody, the singing, the lyrics. It's like a love letter. As for this Soundtrack, I think Shadowlord from NieR:Replicant ver. 1.22 would sound similar. Looking forward, what kind of piece you will cover next ;)
He’s listening to Lies of P music!!! Let’s go!!!
As far as FromSoft Games are concerned, I kinda think something in the melody of this reminds me a tiny bit of Flamelurker, especially Bluepoint's version of it.
Honestly the ambient music before the boss fight, the Operahouse theme is my favorite
This definitely sounds more operatic than orchestral. When you mentioned Nier, that was exactly what I was thinking.
You're right, it doesn't sound like dark souls, it sounds like Nier!
I'd really like to recommend "Let There Be Flame," I find it such a fun track to listen to
You could also check "Feel", another fantastic song from this game
Lies of Pog
I love this. Thank you so much for this Please share your thoughts on Rabbits on the Hunt.
Of course the gameplay footage features the two dragons sword with its overpowered counter attacks. It does take some talent to use properly, but boy does it do damage. Also this is one of my favorite tracks for sure.
2 phase sounds more like final fantasy than dark souls
First phase is very reminiscent of “One Who Craves Souls” from Demon’s Souls.
This theme is insane, you should definetely check out Nameless Chaos or Rabbits on the hunt
Omg I wanted someone to react to this ever since I finished the game. I think lies of p music is very underrated
The first half reminds me of the soul sanctum track from Hollow Knight
Love this one, Laxasia next (with transition :p)?
Yeah, I think the King of Puppets (as in the character), is emphasising and mourning the death of the player character, our stubbornes to continue on the path we were set on and which will lead us to owr demise and our death being used, and so King of Puppets mourns owr choice, but also decides that the best that can be done is if he defeats us and then... idk, maybe he thinks that that's a mercy to kill us now, or he plans to reason with us after capturing us but we just win in canon, this whole comment is mostly a speculation and how I see this fight and why requiem was chosen for it.
*Full Lore Rundown: Schemes of Geppetto and tragedy of Romeo*
*DO NOT CLICK “READ MORE”* if you don’t want an essay covering the comments
The character we play as who we know as “P” was a puppet created by Geppetto who was seemingly resurrected by a lady named Sophia to save Geppetto, our creator. After saving Geppetto from the clutches of puppets and hunters we then get to speak with him, where he then proclaims us to be his son and vaguely asks us to save Krat from the puppet frenzy. Thus setting up our role in the story as the hero.
That is all we know about our character from the start of the game. However, later into the game, we learn there is more to P’s story than meets the eye.
P as it would seem was once human, or at least the soul present within his body was. It is discovered that all the puppets within Krat house that of human souls, channeled into an energy called Ergo.
*What is Ergo?*
Think of Ergo as sort of soul energy. Once it is placed within a puppet, it brings them to life without any need for maintenance or recharge. An infinite energy source that can even grant the lifeless puppets it possesses pure sentience.
Knowing that Ergo is soul energy, you would imagine that the souls present within that energy would retain the characteristics or even memories that they had in life.
As the game progresses this thought is proven to be true as P will slowly recall flashbacks of his souls life, the soul of Carlo, Geptepto’s real son. The most important memories we see from Carlo are that of his caring mother and most importantly, his best friend, Romeo. A young boy who cared for Carlo in the absence of his father and the loss of his mother to illness. A true ally to him in his time of need.
*Yes, Romeo is indeed the boss we face in this battle, but who is Romeo? And what happened to him?*
To explain that we must first discuss the death of Carlo and the cruel mission of Geppetto.
During the time in which Carlo was alive, an epidemic had plunged golden city of Krat into a ruin infested by plague and sickness. A new disease had spread across Krat called the Petrification Disease. As the name suggests, it was a brutal virus which would slowly harden the organs and limbs of those inflicted until they were no more than inanimate statues. Carlos mother was one of the first to fall bedridden to this disease, Carlo following a year or two after. Geppeto, torn with grief over the sudden loss of both his dearest love and beloved son fell into a pit of despair for several years, shutting himself away from the world. Within this grief the depths of his depravity would soon be realized as his talents as an inventor would serve as a cruel instrument in a vile scheme.
Romeo, unfortunately, would fall victim to Geppetto’s insanity. After the death of Carlo, Romeo felt indebted to his family and thus asked Geppetto if there was anything he could do to help him as he had Carlo. A pure soul if there ever was one. Unfortunately, through a series of manipulations Geppetto would take the good will of Romeo and turn it against him, killing Carlo’s childhood friend for his loyalty, extracting the Ergo from his corpse, and implanting it within the Puppet king. A large mecha that once installed within the chain of command, would gain control over every puppet in the city of Krat, like a sort of queen bee.
Now I said before that the souls infused with puppets would retain original characteristics similar to P, however in the case of average puppets, recalling characteristics and even memories is a rare concept. Once a soul is turned into Ergo, all of that individuality is lost. However, over time a puppet can retain those characteristics they had as a human. This sort of self-discovery is called “awakening” when a puppet fully remembers who they are and retain their humanity, gaining the power of free will.
However, in the case of a newly born Romeo, that freedom cannot be afforded, awakening takes time to come about. Unfortunately not enough time. As within the first days of Romeo’s new life his was given a command by his creator to spread to all his subjects.
“Kill every living thing you can see”
Upon the issue of that vile command by their creator, every puppet within the puppet reliant city of Krat turned on its citizens.
…And thus, the puppet frenzy began, a massacre of every living resident in Krat. With Romeo, the brainwashed, seemingly witless left as the sole one responsible for such a terrible, terrible tragedy. Eventually Romeo would awaken and put a halt to the frenzy but by that point, the damage had already been done, the entire city of Krat devoid of life, excepting the few survivors so terribly traumatized they couldn’t bare sharing a presence with a puppet again.
*But why would Geppetto do such a thing? Where is the merit or even purpose in executing such a drastic massacre of Krat, the city he helped to build?*
Well, for that we must back track to the early years of Geppetto’s grief.
Within his first year of grief he studied the petrification disease, his findings leading him to an organization called the alchemists.
A ancient group of fanatical scientists only renowned for the coldness and cruelty of their experiments behind closed doors. desperately attempting to achieve what they call “the evolution of humanity.”
However, the results of their endeavors lead to that of terribly disfigured monsters which could be equated to nothing more that twisted husks of their former selves. Both Carlo and his mother recent victims of their efforts.
Upon discovering the plans of the Alchemists, Geppetto put together a cruel plan that would both ensure the downfall of the alchemists and inevitably lead to the revival of his son.
*The point of Geppetto’s plan?*
Remember how I mentioned Ergo being Soul Energy and how Ergo often does not retain the characteristics of how they were in life? Well, according to Geppetto, his notes, and the progressive transformation of our character throughout the story: if enough Ergo is collected by a single puppet, that puppet will retain the memories his soul had in life and thus, revive themselves.
I think you understand why Geppetto would do such a thing hearing that.
Returning to the present:
Yes, his plan is to slaughter the millions of residents in Krat to not only make them ripe for collection, but to interfere in the alchemists plans of evolution but killing everyone poisoned by the petrification disease.
A sort of mass cleansing to wipe away the efforts of the alchemists through execution and leaving the ergo remnants for P to collect from the corpses of Krat’s residents and the mindlessly aggressive puppets seeking to exterminate all life.
Meanwhile, he uses this tragedy as a way to motivate a reborn Carlo to go out and defeat the puppets to collect the Ergo pinning everything on Romeo and his control over the puppets, leading P to believe he is a hero thwarting senseless evil when we learn later on that was merely an illusion of the full picture.
He is puppeteering the entire story as we have come to understand it behind the scenes.
However, Geppetto is not the only one who is aware of this plot. Romeo also knows it as well. However, Romeo is seemingly left powerless in this entire scenario. Despite his efforts in the game he cannot explain to P Geppetto’s twisted plan.
His speech is garbled, his figure distorted, his control over the puppets manageable at best, it even comes to a point where he quite literally plays charades with P by preforming a show in the theatre which illustrates Geppetto’s plan to warn P, but no matter what, we the player and P can and will not listen to reason, refusing his offers to join him time and time again. It is also made clear that Romeo knows P is Carlo, making the interactions with him and his “messengers” all the more tragic, he wants only to save his old friend from the twisted scheme of his father and save Krat from his evil.
But no matter what, a battle occurs, forcing both P and Romeo to fight to the bitter end. A fight so intense that arena begins to burn down in the chaos, symbolizing the deteriorating will of Romeo to save his friend or destroy him to stop Geppetto.
It is so utterly twisted that things turn out this way, all orchestrated by the man we come to call our family, Geppetto. How cold and conniving do you have to be to commit to such atrocities and wear a smile?
At the end of all this death, this scheming, the lies, the deception, the manipulation, the depravity…
It was all Geppetto, a seemingly kind old man, pulling the strings
All to revive his son, 1 life traded for millions.
It is only after we defeat Romeo we come to understand what he was holding back, the nobility in it, tragedy of his powerlessness in the story, and the terrible mistake we have made defeating him.
I don’t think I have ever felt this bad after conquering a boss, I felt like I was personally cheated by Geppetto by the end of the game and if a game like this could make me feel that for a made up character then that is how you know it’s brilliant writing.
You should def listen to some of the records, they are also great. Adds such a vibe to the whole game!
Lies of P is an exceptional game, better in some regards than original souls games themselves.
there is music for the phase transition cutscene that makes it a little less jarring
I feel bad for Romeo. It’s sad that you have to fight him.
You must do Simon Manus and Laxasia themes!
The tragedy of Romeo truly earns this OST, dude had it rough.
second phase almost feels like mad max music or smth
You actually got that when you "sensed" the "death notes" in there:
SPOILER
During the last level of the game you realize that the one who Pinocchio fought was his best friend in their previous lives, so before becoming both puppets. So the "death" notes can be translated as the death of a friendship that the king of puppets still desires to be a reality... But when he realizes that his friend doesn't remember him he gets mad and realizes that the only thing he can do is fighting him with all his strength. A very sad decision that nobody would have to choice. Basically, (personal opinion) these themes are what the king of puppets is feeling fighting against the player and not the opposite.
Hi you have to listen to champion victor theme is amazing
do apostles of evolution phase 2 next (from the boss ,,laxasia the complete")
Sorry, but objectively the music in this game was pretty sophisticated. I’m a Fromsoft cultist but this game’s music was special, despite your taste in OST’s or bias towards any souls likes. The music is what I remember from this game. Expressed real emotion.
Can i ask you to react to Grandia 2 music? Or Ar Tonelico Melody of Elemia? That's two games have very good music :D
Davi I urge you to listen to Faye's song from God of war ragnarok
The Music in LoP tops most of Fromsoft's own music and that's unbiased
Can you cover ZeroRanger?
Lies of P music smokes the soul series it’s not even a comparison
风格不一样，但是水平很高，跟场景也很融洽，大教堂跟遭破坏之前的旅店印象深刻
You have to listen to fascination and feel
Next video Laxxasia theme 🙏
Could you listen to some terraria music? I’ll enjoy any song, but if you need a specific suggestion, I’d suggest Plantera.
Who up lying they P right now?
I wiuld recomend anilation from remnant 2 as another good game ost but in first playthrough puppets speack but u cant ubderstand them however subtitles are there in braize like letters so u can sonetimes infer what is being said yntil ng plus were u know for sure
Lies of P outdoes souls music. The records.... omg, some of the best music I've ever listened to, period.
1:23 it sounds dramatic cause it's one of the most tragic parts of the game :( sorry Romeo
#1 LIES OF OF P ENJOYER
Those who don't know; Man this sounds really sad and dramatic
Those who know: *Bawling*
A lot of Lies of P's music is based on classic music or acctualy uses real world music.
All of lies of p soundtracks are amazing
Try “Wings of Hypocrisy”