*Few things missed:* - He can do only the 2nd Heat Smash - CD+1 becomes +3 on block Mod link: tekkenmods.com/mod/3218/storymode-versions-of-jin-cheat-engine-table
Hei @alifamerable I just found out something after installing the mods. if you did WS1, 3~3 Hold Df into crouch cancel you can access mishima move like Wind God Fist, CD1, and hellsweep
With massive evasion. I think it'd be more useful than his new ZEN 2 but I suppose that move has its uses as well. There was more going on tactically with Swaying Willow, though, at least with how I use Jin.
There's a lot variations of Jin. Story Jin: Kyokushin Karate Normal Jin: Kyokushin Karate mixed with the devil's power Devil Jin with red eyes: standard Devil Jin with gold eyes: sane Nephilim Jin: half angel, half devil Angel Jin Final Jin: Mishima Ryu - Kyokushin mixed with Kazama Self Defense
I like how they add words that are never said. He doesn't say "feel the fury", he screams "Chest" cause in some forms of Japanese martial arts you shout the area you're going to hit. He literally yells "Chesto"
Lmaoo, been like this since he got his rage art in Tekken 7. If you go back he also says "chesto" on the last hit of his rage art in Tekken 7, with the caption also saying "feel the fury" so I guess they just wanted to have a tad bit of remembrance for his old rage art lmao.
Now I'm looking forward to seeing Devil Jin while he's in control, where he has Jin's new d/f+2(not sure if that's only present in the demo), you can either use the one with the red or white palette of his Rage Art. Along with another version of Jin where he's bound with chains on his arms and legs.
The Jin with chains only gets 3-4 attacks. 1. Changed ff2 2. Devil Jin's b,f+1+2 3. I think a slightly changed 1+2 4. Explosion similar to Devil Jin b+2+4 but I think it's not an attack, just a 'checkpoint' move triggered after his health falls below a certain parameter.
1st time that a new Rage Art is better than the vanilla edition but if they added da "one wing" effect when he do the flying kick it's would be the apotheosis ! 😭😹😹
I've found out something you haven't covered about Nerfed Jin (along with Kazama style and final battle Jin): If you do ws1,3~3,~df, his crouch dash attacks will use his Mishima/Omen stance attacks instead of his regular ones. cd1 is Thunder God Fist cd2 is EWGF cd4,4 is Hellsweep Though this doesn't happen if you go to crouch dash from his df+3~3~df.
There also one move present in both nerfed and devil powered Jin and that is - ZAN/ZEN Cancel into CD then 1+2 executes EWGF along with TGF follow up. I believe final Jin, Kazama Ryu Jin, Nerfed Jin and Devil Powered Jin can perform this move not sure about Mishima/T3 style Jin can do this or not.
@@theproduction22 You forgetting that the reason Devil Jin is there as a playable in the first place are for the people who preferred Tekken 3 Jin as a move set, I don’t see the problem for the Normal Jin changes.
There Is Many Versions of Jin Spoilers below : Regular Jin Devil Jin Nerfed Jin Sane Devil Jin(After Jin masters himself) Jin(With Chains..Oppenent only) Mastered Devil Jin with One Angel Wing..Kazyua Stated That Without Azareal enhancing him, Jin Would of Overwhelmed him. Angel Jin Jin(Miashma) Jin(Kazama) Jin using Mishima and Kazama Style.
There is some charm that I liked about this version of Jin, it felt like home in Tekken 4 without the Devil shenanigans and I hope that Namco adds it officially
I just tried the mod and the story mode to use this Jin and he somehow still able to do the "Devil-Powered Hellsweep" lmao, the input is ZEN > DF (CD) > D+4,2
Jin simply doesn’t use his devil power to fight over the storyline, the first fight in the story vs kazuya there he has the full potential like regular but later on when he loses control he mostly fights without the devil gene then later at the end bevor he loses his devil power
I found some other stuff too. His back foward 2 does not cause gut stun even if you hit your opponent on counter hit. the EWHF the regular one and the electric one are pretty much the same. You use to have a sound where you could tell you did the electric one. His parry at times does not come out. Not sure why that happens. I remember in other tekken games when you parry a get up kick and you parried that you get can can kicks as a punish. Now that no longer works. If you parry an electric you dont get a 2,4 punish. DF4 on counter hit does not give you bounce even if you depleted your heat. Should not have bought this game on launch. Got a gut feeling it was going to be some BS like sf6 and i was right. Cant blame anyone but me.
nerfed jin is basically jin refuse his past and his devil power being chained (literally struggling with his own inner devil) regular jin is your average tekken jin
Lmao now that I think about it, why did he lose the little flippy and claw attacks? Heihachi, Baek and Hwoarang literally broke laws of physics for years and everyone was fine
Man I watched your latest video which is about him. Very well, its interesting to reveal the storymode details for us. Can you plz make vids on angel jin and devil kaz complete moveset
Real quick, in one fight during story mode, you can go against Jin when he has on the soul chains, and he has unique moves. Is that a seperate movelist, and can you showcase it if it is?
Hey, are you taking mod requests for Kazuya? I'd be more than happy to agree on a commission price. I simply want to show love to to Kazuya mains and PGF!
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Wow impressive. Now do a quick showcase of story mode nerfed Kazuya who can't even do a heat smash and a rage art. Yeah that Kazuya(Vegeta wanna be) who relies mostly on devil gene.
@@slimballs9650 I guess... but I could've sworn he did that move when I switched to Special Style (the mode where you press one button and the char does a full combo).
Basically the story mode has some extra movesets for characters. This one exists for lore reasons, basically Jin gets defeated once and temporarily loses his devil gene powers.
This version of Jin is still far more competitive than Kazuya, Lars, Asuka and Leroy in their current states lmaoooooo Should really tell you how troglodytic T8 Jin is
*Few things missed:*
- He can do only the 2nd Heat Smash
- CD+1 becomes +3 on block
Mod link:
tekkenmods.com/mod/3218/storymode-versions-of-jin-cheat-engine-table
Hei @alifamerable I just found out something after installing the mods. if you did WS1, 3~3 Hold Df into crouch cancel you can access mishima move like Wind God Fist, CD1, and hellsweep
@@onelefthanded6928 Yeah, someone else also reported it to me
Jin who does not believe in his heart vs Jin who believes in his heart.
Basically Tekken 7 Jin lmao
Yup
Worse honestly
@@darknonchalance3264 i mean jin didn't got his devil powers when he battle out with dvj, it make sense.
With nerfed parry his strkngest tool, without lajmchkng helsweep, no screw making his combo damage below average but overall yeah
But fun to play
its funny nerfed story mode Jin still has a launching hellsweep from normal CD and a wallsplating mid powercrush
Yeah he is better lol
With massive evasion. I think it'd be more useful than his new ZEN 2 but I suppose that move has its uses as well. There was more going on tactically with Swaying Willow, though, at least with how I use Jin.
and a wall carry too zen 12 man thats good
Heah man that is last hit of savage sword attached to hellsweep and now bounds
Devil less Jin is interesting, feels like T4 Jin :)
I'm pretty sure that's the point.
Generally surprised how much effort they put into nerfed jin, do love 8 regular jin and how flashy he is though (4 still has the best costumes though)
There's a lot variations of Jin.
Story Jin: Kyokushin Karate
Normal Jin: Kyokushin Karate mixed with the devil's power
Devil Jin with red eyes: standard
Devil Jin with gold eyes: sane
Nephilim Jin: half angel, half devil
Angel Jin
Final Jin: Mishima Ryu - Kyokushin mixed with Kazama Self Defense
i feel like final jin will probably be the tekken 9 jin
There's also a unique moveset when you go against Jin with the soul chains on as Sane Devil Jin
Yea lol
@@chunchoe i feel the same but hé might be different
Man, the old version of his Zenshin 3+4 looks better than the new one. The side kick animation looks so refined.
So lemme get this straight.
Story Jin is STRAIGHT HANDS.
I like how they add words that are never said. He doesn't say "feel the fury", he screams "Chest" cause in some forms of Japanese martial arts you shout the area you're going to hit. He literally yells "Chesto"
Exactly 😂
Localizers...they even mess up the translation of other characters words. Especially the French and Spanish characters.
Lmaoo, been like this since he got his rage art in Tekken 7. If you go back he also says "chesto" on the last hit of his rage art in Tekken 7, with the caption also saying "feel the fury" so I guess they just wanted to have a tad bit of remembrance for his old rage art lmao.
😭only time they actually had the correct translation was in the story mode, Jin vs Xiaoyu
Misinformation. Chesto has nothing to do with chest, it's lifted from Kagoshima dialect as a karate war cry because Kagoshima has history with karate
Now I'm looking forward to seeing Devil Jin while he's in control, where he has Jin's new d/f+2(not sure if that's only present in the demo), you can either use the one with the red or white palette of his Rage Art. Along with another version of Jin where he's bound with chains on his arms and legs.
The Jin with chains only gets 3-4 attacks.
1. Changed ff2
2. Devil Jin's b,f+1+2
3. I think a slightly changed 1+2
4. Explosion similar to Devil Jin b+2+4 but I think it's not an attack, just a 'checkpoint' move triggered after his health falls below a certain parameter.
@@aligamerableHe also does that explosion whenever he's hit with a laser
@@Shiratto Yeah that too. Which the player can also do whenever they are playing with Devil/Angel Jin in story mode
1st time that a new Rage Art is better than the vanilla edition but if they added da "one wing" effect when he do the flying kick it's would be the apotheosis ! 😭😹😹
I never liked the release rage art, I always thought the uppercut flying kick rage art was always better, glad they changed that lol
@@Giroutte I still think his T7 RA was best. No questions, no bs, just straight hands
It's kinda sad that his storymode RA is arguably cooler than his normal RA
Exactly Harada need to get his development team back on that🔥💯
I do hope we can do like select type of jin you wanna choose normal jin or story mode jin
@@gilang26060Unfortunately that’s never gonna happen
I think his normal rage art is pretty good. The story mode on the other hand is not that cinematic due to the lack of devil stuff.
I like his regular rage art it shows restraint and control with his devil gene
Jin in story even tho he may or may not be nerfed Is more fun than regular t8 gameplay jin
Nerfed Jin can combo from his hellsweep 😭
It's a damn shame MP Jin doesn't have Zen 1+2. Such a shame.
Man, give me back that old ZEN 2.
Agree old Zen 2 is the best
Mid is always the best than High
0:58 this looks cool asf as a tornado move 👺👺
I really miss that move. At least they added b1 2 which looks similar.
I've found out something you haven't covered about Nerfed Jin (along with Kazama style and final battle Jin):
If you do ws1,3~3,~df, his crouch dash attacks will use his Mishima/Omen stance attacks instead of his regular ones.
cd1 is Thunder God Fist
cd2 is EWGF
cd4,4 is Hellsweep
Though this doesn't happen if you go to crouch dash from his df+3~3~df.
I just checked it, you're right!
I didn't know about it, thanks for letting me know!
I think I'm gonna make a video about all the common changes that apply to Jin throughout story mode and include this in there
Is the CD+4, 4 the T6 animation or the old one?
@@theproduction22 I'm not sure, but it looks identical to Mishima style Jin and Final Battle Jin's cd4,4.
I miss that up zen 1+2😢.
This is a cool Jin. I really like him more without this devilish things. If I want moves with wings and claws, I would probably play DVJ instead)
Same
Much better than Regular Tekken 8 Jin.
His "nerfed" rage art is better than his actual rage art
Yep
Really hope we get a new Jin movelist for Tekken 9 where his movelist has been revamped to be part Kazama, part Mishima style.
I actually like the story rage art better then the actual rage art to be real!
0:46 the only thing i LOVE about nerfed jin (tekken 7 jin)
There also one move present in both nerfed and devil powered Jin and that is - ZAN/ZEN Cancel into CD then 1+2 executes EWGF along with TGF follow up. I believe final Jin, Kazama Ryu Jin, Nerfed Jin and Devil Powered Jin can perform this move not sure about Mishima/T3 style Jin can do this or not.
Is it weird that I wish "Nerfed" Jin was the regular Jin? Makes him feel more like T4-T7 Jin. I don't like the devil stuff personally.
Exactly my thoughts
I lowkey feel like the devs are playing with possibly reintroducing something like this for all characters in the future.
I mean, we have Devil Jin for the devil stuff. No point in giving him devil moves if they were gonna stay separate.
@@theproduction22 agreed
@@theproduction22 You forgetting that the reason Devil Jin is there as a playable in the first place are for the people who preferred Tekken 3 Jin as a move set, I don’t see the problem for the Normal Jin changes.
There Is Many Versions of Jin
Spoilers below :
Regular Jin
Devil Jin
Nerfed Jin
Sane Devil Jin(After Jin masters himself)
Jin(With Chains..Oppenent only)
Mastered Devil Jin with One Angel Wing..Kazyua Stated That Without Azareal enhancing him, Jin Would of Overwhelmed him.
Angel Jin
Jin(Miashma)
Jin(Kazama)
Jin using Mishima and Kazama Style.
Can you do Devil-less Kaz in final battle?
found out a very funny thing, if you force jin with cheat engine on chapter 10 (the tekken force one) he will have this moveset
That rage art was 🔥🔥🔥
There is some charm that I liked about this version of Jin, it felt like home in Tekken 4 without the Devil shenanigans and I hope that Namco adds it officially
We need tekken 7 jin's rahe art so bad
So basically, Tekken 4 Jin.
Damn i miss jin's zen 1+2 soo fkin much... Such a cool and powerful move
Me too bro. It’s so stylish and feels very Kazama style. At least they added b1 2 which looks similar.
It was fun doing the 100 dollar combo in story mode again
I just tried the mod and the story mode to use this Jin and he somehow still able to do the "Devil-Powered Hellsweep" lmao, the input is ZEN > DF (CD) > D+4,2
To be honest nerfed jin moveset is better just feels good for reason
this is Tekken 9 Jin
Story mode jin is basically jin without the devil power
It's probably cause in the main story Jin loses his devil gene after chapter 1 and only gets it back around chapter 7
Story mode jin is tekken 7 jin with Zen moves back
I prefer this Jin.
Jin simply doesn’t use his devil power to fight over the storyline, the first fight in the story vs kazuya there he has the full potential like regular but later on when he loses control he mostly fights without the devil gene then later at the end bevor he loses his devil power
I was just doing tekken 7 combos the whole time
I found some other stuff too. His back foward 2 does not cause gut stun even if you hit your opponent on counter hit. the EWHF the regular one and the electric one are pretty much the same. You use to have a sound where you could tell you did the electric one. His parry at times does not come out. Not sure why that happens. I remember in other tekken games when you parry a get up kick and you parried that you get can can kicks as a punish. Now that no longer works. If you parry an electric you dont get a 2,4 punish. DF4 on counter hit does not give you bounce even if you depleted your heat. Should not have bought this game on launch. Got a gut feeling it was going to be some BS like sf6 and i was right. Cant blame anyone but me.
I hope they let us choose between movesets/rage arts in future updates, I miss some of the OG kit
That's pretty cool, but Jin constantly changing movelist during story mode pissed me off. lol
nerfed jin is basically jin refuse his past and his devil power being chained (literally struggling with his own inner devil)
regular jin is your average tekken jin
It’s just t7 Jin really
Lmao now that I think about it, why did he lose the little flippy and claw attacks? Heihachi, Baek and Hwoarang literally broke laws of physics for years and everyone was fine
Not going to lie. I like the nerfed rage art animation better than the normal one we got......
Zen 4 is ff4 from t7
His story rage art I better than his default imo
Zenshen Stance Should swap between Jin Styles but it doesn’t which is such a missed opportunity
God I miss the launching hell sweep
Though Jins this rage art looks better than just simple punch and push normal rageart . 🙄😤😮💨🤨
are you gonna go over kazuya's moveset in the final chapter?
Bro you missed one move:
It is WR 3 out of which zen 4 automatically comes out.
@@Loopstag124 That's not for nerfed Jin
@@aligamerable I am talking about the jin in first fight with kazuya
@@Loopstag124 which is not the one I'm showcasing in this video. If you check the video for first chapter Jin, you'll see the move there
Man I watched your latest video which is about him. Very well, its interesting to reveal the storymode details for us. Can you plz make vids on angel jin and devil kaz complete moveset
To be honest, I’d much rather fight with the nerfed moveset
need that launching hellsweep and new rageart 😂
Imho nerfed jin rage art is 100% better than normal one
We need chained Jim from Dvj battle
That leaves chained Jin
Will you do a showcase of Kazuya from the final battle? He is different from the playable one, and I would like to see his moves
Eventually, yes. Though he doesn't change as drastically as Jin does in the final battle.
what if you show nerfed version of kazuya of the final battle
I wonder if this Jin can do a 100$ combo again due to old zen3+4
Nope, I tried. Maybe if one can adjust the angle a bit but I couldn't get it.
@@aligamerable maybe ssr will help? Ight I should play through the campaign lmao
you can do it but you have to do the zen 3+4 immediately after the electric otherwise it will drop
Real quick, in one fight during story mode, you can go against Jin when he has on the soul chains, and he has unique moves. Is that a seperate movelist, and can you showcase it if it is?
Not a separate movelist. Just bunch of extra attacks he gain.
@@aligamerable ok thanks
Hey, are you taking mod requests for Kazuya? I'd be more than happy to agree on a commission price. I simply want to show love to to Kazuya mains and PGF!
I'm already friends with him lol.
Unfortunately, currently moveset modding is super-limited, can't really do much.
You wouldn't have to import new moves. Just adjust some properties on his key moves. Are you able to do that?
@@dejuanharris5012I realized I hadn't responded to you (I had made a note to respond later than completely forgot). Sure. Man. Send me a message on discord "alik3112"
@@aligamerableok
Can you update the cheat table please?
I like the story mode Zen 2 than the regular jin zen 2. Regular Zen 2 animation is bad imo
The hitbox is also High which can be easily duckable
How about jin on final stage, he using 3 style
Already made a video about him
So you can only play with the other Jin on story mode and he was not nerfed I’m miss some of those old moves some of his new shit I hate
How about Final chapter Kazuya and First Chapter Devil Kazuya?
i miss zen 1+2
Wow impressive. Now do a quick showcase of story mode nerfed Kazuya who can't even do a heat smash and a rage art. Yeah that Kazuya(Vegeta wanna be) who relies mostly on devil gene.
Nerfed Jin? Nah, T7 Jin with some of T8 moves
So this is Jin after the first fight with Kazuya?
Yeah. Except for that last round against Hwoarang, you keep playing as this version of Jin throughout the storymode.
The next one do it for devil jin story mode
Its not about nerf..its depend on players who can hit the combo on air like volley ball
Ok there is no way
No way of what
Why did they remove the U1 from Zen stance??
I know the flip-kick thing exists because when I tried with Special Style, Jin did the flip-kick thing.
Because it was a claw swipe that, like d/f+2, required the Devil's Power to use.
@@slimballs9650 I guess... but I could've sworn he did that move when I switched to Special Style (the mode where you press one button and the char does a full combo).
In certain fights, he gains back the devil's powers. E.g, the second fight against Hwoarang.
What? They made a game, but then removed the game features? Why the hell this happens?
I'm not sure what you mean but this is a showcase of Jin's moveset from storymode. Nothing is "removed".
Basically the story mode has some extra movesets for characters. This one exists for lore reasons, basically Jin gets defeated once and temporarily loses his devil gene powers.
So are these Jin's new nerfed moves or is he gonna stay unbalanced af?
I ain't too sure what you mean, but just so we are on the same page, it's story-mode only.
@@aligamerable sadge
I prefer the RA of nerfed Jin
Give me back my old df2 pls! Everyone else has a launching counterhit df2
So its just tekken 7 jin im good with that tekken 7 jin was my best jin
Did this nerf patch just come out? Is is applied to PVP either?
during story mode only
This is weakened Jin from the story mode
@@Razorcarl thx
Nerf Jin > Tk8 jin
just stop with the feel the fury bruhhh pleease
Can you play as this Jin online or no?
No
This version of Jin is still far more competitive than Kazuya, Lars, Asuka and Leroy in their current states lmaoooooo
Should really tell you how troglodytic T8 Jin is
Depressed Jin.
story mode rage art is better
Where i can get this mod
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