Henry Cavill actually went and stood in time square with the glasses on and no one recognized him until he took them off. Some times subtle changes go a long way
Plus, how many print-only journalists could *you* pick out of a lineup? Clark Kent's byline might be famous, but his face isn't. To anyone on the street he'd be a guy who happens to "look a bit like Superman, in the right light, if you squint a bit and imagine him taller."
One version of Jonathan Kent´s fate is he dying of a heart attack, showing that some things, despite Clarks´s awesome power, can´t be stopped from happening or defeated. I love how humbling this is to a demigod and help us to relate to him. Or, help him to relate to us.
Facts. That part in the 1978 movie has so much in it despite how short it was. And it's been repeated ever since, even with Martha in "Superman & Lois". She died of a stroke (?).
Both parents die of natural causes in the original 1938 comic book. Johnathan dies of a heart attack in the 1952 TV series starring George Reeves, the 1978 movie and on Smallville. As the original commenter noted, it was to show that Superman can't stop the mortality of the humans he loves. The Man of Steel tornado death was just stupid. The entire portrayal of Johnathan Kent in Man of Steel is stupid. Johnathan Kent would NEVER advise Clark to let innocent children die.
@@schpiner8653 stupid because you didn’t understand it or want to be told the same story over and over again? The script was written by 2 well respected writers in Nolan and Goyer, you have the nerve to call them stupid for updating and giving the audiences something new. I would have called it lazy and stupid if it was a simple heart attack yet again. It’s Kansas so much like the Wizard of Oz it’s known for massive Tornados so not surprising a Tornado hits in Kansas. Pa Kent has been preaching to Clark all his life that he needs to hide his gifts from this wold because he knows what would happen to his son if this government found out about him and at a younger age he is not prepared to deal with mankind and it’s selfish evil ways. Pa Kent also has no clue how Clark would use his powers in front of all the people watching from the overpass. No one knows not even Clark, so if his instincts kick in while trying to save his father he could very well expose himself and the Kent’s who would also be taken by the government. That scene is so powerful and speaks to how much Pa Kent loved his son that he would die to protect him not only from himself but from mankind who as he said earlier in the movie fears what they don’t understand. If you look at the first fight scene with the Kryptonians they are given orders to fire their weapons not only on the Kryptonians but also in Superman. This is also proven in the next movie Batman v Superman when mankind turns on Superman. That scene is only “stupid” to the stupid people who don’t understand. Let script writers and directors make what their vision is not like the studios who destroyed Batman v Superman and Justice League by meddling and editing and butchering the vision that Nolan, Goyer, and Snyder had for this epic franchise. It’s “stupid” people like the one who posted this comment that feed into that meddling. Sorry but that scene is far from stupid, if you don’t like it don’t watch it yet again just to post some personal negative opinion.
When Simone said it felt pretty hopless when the beam was catching Perry and his team, that right there is the definition of Superman. When the movie felt the most hopeless, he overcame the machine and saved the world even having literally the weight of the planet on his back. That's Superman. He's the ultimate beacon of hope
I love that scene. When he focus his power, everything he has to save the world and flys up and through the world engine. I tear up. It is a true Superman moment.
I think what Pa Kent was thinking was that he was trying to make sure Clark wasn’t in a position where he’d be forced or tempted to use his power in view of all those people. He doesn’t know Clark is basically invincible or, even if he did, he’s trying to protect Clark’s anonymity because he knows that Clark’s life will change for the worse if the world knows what he is. That was worth putting his life at risk or dying to Jonathan Kent.
I believe the whale story that Simone mentioned had to do with a whale that sang at a different frequency than the other whales because of a mutation. So the others couldn't hear him singing and he was wandering the ocean alone...forever.
Mutation is a bit harsh. It's most likely a hybrid of blue and fin whales. But it's not all sad, they started recording a second 52 hertz whale about a decade ago, so not alone anymore.
I think Brightburn was more about the alien’s nature rather than upbringing. The biology class makes it clear. The kid is a cuckoo in the nest. With alien psychology and instincts. With nothing to test his limits or establish boundaries, his Id is unrestrained.
Good job George picking up on the fact that until Zod and his forces showed up. Clark had never been in a fight and he's now fighting highly trained soldiers. So he's literally learning in the moment.
The pain superman felt when he killed zod was real. He let out a cry knowing he killed the only other living member of his race. Literally spent his whole life thinking he was a weirdo and alone, then had to kill his dads friend. Really sad tbh. He didn't wanna kill zod Edit: superman's main villain is Lex Luther. Some other notable ones are doomsday, darkseid, and black Adam.
I believe the reason why his father went back for the dog instead of Clark was that his mother was a higher priority to keep safe. The father was convinced of his belief that it was Clarks inexperience with the world and being impressionable due to still trying to find himself that the world would try and take advantage of and corrupt him. The world needed to grow up just as much as Clark did at that time.
And the extended Snyder version of Justice League is broken into chapters to make the movie easier to watch. It is Leagues better than the other version + Superman vs Batman. S v B could be skipped entirely if it didn't setup the next movie.
I personally still prefer the original way Pa Kent died (heart attack) because it teaches Clark that he’s not a God and can’t interfere when someone dies of natural causes. There’s nothing he could have done. But with an external cause (tornado), there’s endless debating of whether he could or should have changed the outcome.
The thing about the damage with the fight at the end... Zod wasn't after Superman. Zod was out to murder as many people as he could to punish Superman. Superman tried to take the fight away from Metrpolis but Zod kept directing the fight back there as he wanted to destroy and kill more. Superman leaving would've let Zod destroy the entire city. There was no avoiding the collateral damage. The best thing to do would be end the fight as fast as possible.
Well not to mention zod set up one of those big gravity things right in the city and was going to kill everybody anyway. But yeah, hard to prevent collateral damage when the villains whole goal is collateral damage
Yeah, I felt like that was obvious when Zod said "I am going to make them suffer", but people seem to miss it because they constantly blame Superman for the destruction in the climactic scenes. But it is clearly the villains causing the destruction and Superman trying to stop them. (Batman v. Superman even wrote this into the movie as a major plot point, but people still don't seem to get it.)
@@bloodymarvelous4790 Bullshit. What you see is a war between two elements: fantasy and practicality. Man Of Steel is a question: can Superman exist in a post-Sept 11 world? You got 24-hour news, social media and fear mongers like Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump speaking lies. How does a superhero fit into that realism?
Canonically, Johnathon Kent (Clark's human father) dies of a heart attack while Clark has to stand by powerless to save him. Unlike the tornado death, this actually makes sense as there really is nothing Clark can do to stop an old man from heart failure. It's also the event that teaches Clark to accept that there are limits to his power and that he can't save everyone.
Also, Jonathan Kent didn't try and get Clark to hide away from the world. He taught him that he had his gifts for a reason, to help others, and instilled in his adopted son the ethos that drives Superman to be a force for good.
Exactly, this always bothered me. Superman treasures human life. That was his thing. It is also the only reason you'd ever feel safe around something that powerful. There is no canon explanation for his character to not save his father. It was a bad call by Snyder. Felt like something someone who didn't like Superman would make him do. Along with the destruction of the city. In the early versions of the films, there is a similar scenario where Zod is destroying Metropolis and Superman looks around and realizes they are causing massive damage. He decides to take the fight elsewhere. Actually to the North Pole as George actually suggests in this video.
@@videojourneyswell Superman WAS trying to take the fight elsewhere. They kept throwing him back towards the city. Then Zodd intended to kill people full stop, so Superman _couldn’t_ leave the city.
Isn't there some depiction of some hero out there that actually can prevent a heart from stopping, or somehow heal it? I feel like I remember something in which a person could literally reach into their chest and pump their heart. I have no idea where I'm drawing this from, to be honest.
Reeve's Daily Planet Clark Kent was a lie, and Superman is about truth. This version was better. This Clark was still a farm boy who was the low key, mild mattered side to a bold Superman. The objective of this Clark was just to blend in, not to lie. Christopher Reeve said he was tired of playing Clark Kent that way..He said -"Clark was a farm boy from Kansas who baled hey and ate Cheerios...Not a moron"..
@@marcusmcgill4423but he was raised as clark kent not as superman, some versions have the suit as just a way to use his powers without exposing his identity
@@tmnuzi1623 Yes, the Kent's raised him with morals and taught him how to be a good man, but when he gets to the Daily Bugle, it was stated by the writers that his disguise with the glasses and how clumsy wasn't just to hide his identity, but how he also viewed a lot of humanity.
I've always liked the theory that people don't recognise Clark Kent as Superman because they don't expect Superman to have a secret ID. Everyone *knows* that Superman spends his day saving people and hanging out with Wonder Woman, not pretending to be ordinary, because that's what most good people would do with Superman's powers. When you are looking for Superman you look *up* not at the person beside you.
“They should fight somewhere else” oh and the “Clark should just fly somewhere else” yea like Zod wouldn’t destroy the city to make him come back or just throw his ass back into the city 🤦🏾♂️ “There goes fox network” cringe bro, I highly doubt your educated enough on politics to talk about it especially a political news network you don’t even watch.
@@ThatShyGuyMatt Yes, Canada has always had Orajel... It's a surface pain reliever, it's essentially useless on deeper pain because it cannot act on what it cannot touch.
The interesting thing is that both of Clark's bullies became better people. Pete Ross (Dicksplash) stopped being a bully and eventually wound up as the Manager of I-Hop and the guy that was tormenting him against the fence became the Priest that Clark speaks to for guidance, or else the Priest and the kid looked a lot alike on accident.
I think Superman's most remarkable superpower is self-control. He has almost unlimited power and must be absolutely controlled in everything he does. Every one of his bodily functions, every one of his smallest movements, even if he were to sneeze, could trigger a catastrophe. So being able to control himself 24/7 like that is his most important power.
I think the actual reason Clark's dad had him head to the overpass was to protect the other people and his mom. In the end he just didn't want to have Clark expose himself. It could have been done better but I think it makes more sense when you put yourself in Johnathan's shoes.
And this movie was made before the full (still in progress) Debunking of the popularized notion that it's "safe" to shelter under an overpass (wind tunnel) during a tornado.
The audience knows way more about Clark's powers than him or his parents do at that point in the story when the tornado happens. Pa Kent cannot reasonably expect to be saved without putting his kid's life in danger. They don't know he can't be hurt by a flying car, it's not something that comes up in a typical childhood. We know, because we've watched Superman movies and shows all our lives, we grew up with Smallville, but in this universe, in the DCEU, there is no instance in which Clark did something so "super" that it would establish his speed and invulnerability. And even if he did, and his family knew what he can do, tons of people were staring at Jonathan from below the overpass, and Clark and Jonathan suddenly vanishing and reappearing together would have destroyed their family. He hasn't even been shown to have super speed at this point in his life. Not on screen at least. Part of his journey in the comics is finding his limits, and being afraid of situations he's never had to voluntarily put himself in before. There is a whole lot going on in the Tornado scene, it's great, and sad, and as the last conversation he has with his dad, it affects him for the rest of his life.
With his dad dying: Clark was still a teenager. Young adult at best. He was scared and yes if he was adult Superman he would have just taken over the situation, but instead he listened to his dad. And once his dad got into the point where he couldn't make it back... Clark was about to go speed run and get him... but all those people would see that. It would expose him. And then the world would want to control him and test him and make him a test rat... and his dad sacrificed himself so that his son wouldn't have to reveal himself yet... not until he was ready and could handle it.
there are two main points about Clark trying to take the fight somewhere safe: the first one is that this is his first time dealing with something that represents a real threat, we could say that he isn't a full superhero yet, so he's basically a noob. The second one is that Zod would have seen what he was trying to do and like he said, he wanted to kill every human on earth
About the Clark/Superman disguise. Henry Cavill did an experiment after Man of Steel came out, just before Batman Vs Superman. He went and stood in Times Square, under a giant billboard of Batman Vs Superman, wearing a superman T-shirt. And literally no one recognized him, not a single person, he just blended in. It shows most people aren't paying that much attention.
@@jackg.1683 right? There’s a lot of things that are attention grabbers there than a tall good looking dude. And it’s not like Cavill was that well known at the time. In fact I suspect most actors could go unnoticed a lot of the time.
It could also be that New Yorkers really try not to bother the movie stars when you see them around. I've seen plenty and have never approached them. I've seen them everywhere. New Yorkers respect a Movie Star's space. Part of the reason why so many live here... I got a great story.... Patrick Stewart, who plays Jean Luc Piccard on Star Trek and Professor Xavier on X-Men, moved to Brooklyn NYC 2 - 3 years ago. Via Vanity Fair "I was walking home from an early morning walk to a pastry shop. I saw a couple of local men sitting on a staircase talking. They saw and recognized me. I thought "I'm not ready for this on an early Sunday morning....". As I walked by, the two local men said "Hey Stewart, welcome to the neighborhood..." In that New York kind of tone. At that point, I fell in love with the City...." And yes, it's Times Square too....
Before the final fight Zod literally says he's going to make the people of Earth suffer, to hurt Kal-El. That is why the fight is so destructive, and Clark can't just fly away and expect Zod to follow. Zod is actively trying to kill as many humans as he can. If Clark flies away Zod will just kill all the humans around him until Clark re-engages him. The fight is Zod slaughtering humanity while Superman tries desperately to stop him.
That dog don't hunt chief; Zod did not have Clark's ability to fly at the beginning of the fight. Clark could easily have grabbed him and moved the fight out to the Shara or the Artic.
@@noneya3635 yea i dont get why people dont realize that. He literally took him into space at one point. They just had to have it all take place in Metropolis is all.
@@freebird6591 Because they are having knee jerk reactions to the argument that this movie has a poorly thought out script. Some people just refuse to hear rational disagreement and fall back on "you're just mad because..." In short being mistaken is seen by many as a personal failure and cannot be tolerated.
That’s a fun idea and all, but it barely holds water. Not to mention that Clark never once’s goes out of his way to prevent damage or save lives until the very end of the fight when it’s relevant to the shallow plot. Like when he just hops over the gas truck sliding towards him, letting it destroy a building.
Just wanted to answer a few of your questions/points 1. Superman's heat vision is one way his body releases the solar energy he's absorbed. He's basically a walking solar battery; the more yellow sunlight he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. He can release a massive blast that depletes him entirely of solar energy and leaves him essentially powerless until he recharges. 2. Back in 1938, when the first Superman comic was published, Krypton was a planet of humanoid beings that had evolved to the peak of human perfection, basically a planet of Captain America's. That's why when he first came out, Superman could "leap tall buildings in a single bound". Now he's basically a god. 3. General Zod and Faora-Ul do have the same powers as Superman, being Kryptonians, and being trained soldiers does give them an advantage. But Superman is technically stronger than them both because he's been on Earth longer than them and absorbed more solar energy than they have. 4. Some of Superman's villains include his arch-nemesis Lex Luthor as well as Darkseid, Brainiac, Doomsday, Bizarro, and Mister Mxyzptlk. For the most part, they are god-level threats. So it makes sense that they're his villains. 5. It's probably been said before, but when Kal is Clark, he acts like an entirely different person. He speaks in a higher pitched voice, slouches over so people don't see how tall he really is, he wears baggy clothes to hide his muscles. Basically, Clark is to Superman what Bruce Wayne is to Batman. Also Superman has the ability to hypnotize people (I'm not kidding). Hope this helps. Great reaction as always!
According to Zack Snyder, that was a complete coincidence from camera angles and trick of the light. Henry and Christopher have similar bone structure.
Christopher Reeve is the ONLY actor who could “almost” pull off Superman being unrecognizable as Clark Kent. He literally looks and acts like a completely different person. You could almost believe it. He nailed that aspect. Cavill is the perfect looking Superman (looks just like the comics) and Brandon Routh is the perfect Clark Kent. Reeve was just perfect all around.
I will grant you that Reeve's Clark Kent definitely acted like a completely different person. He definitely deserves the praise there. He did not, however, look like a completely different person.
A large part of the Superman story is that he is moral and doesn't go overboard. Also, his strength literally made them invent kryptonite to weaken him and allow humans to be a threat.
That’s the point that the movie was trying to make from Clark’s pov . That Clark could’ve saved him but his father refused him to do that because his father all the way until the end that he shouldn’t risk exposing himself .
He could have but at what point to you literally become a god? You could save everyone everywhere all the time or you can decide when to intervene. The powers and abilities Clark possess is that of a god..... I think this was the lesson old man kent was teaching Clark.
Zod had one of the best villain catch phrases. Simple but awesome. “Kneel before Zod.” I think he was too powerful a villain for the first movie. Even the Christopher Reeve movies saved him for the sequel. I watched this in the movies and it was awesome. Henry Cavil did a great job as Superman.
It had be Zod, though. Just starting off with Lex Luthor skips over so much of Superman's backstory. Whereas Zod, and the evil Kryptonians, are inextricably linked to Superman's legacy. I think this was a good decision. The trouble is following up Zod with a worthy villain, because Superman IS so powerful.
When the colonel turns to Feora and says "A good death is it's own reward" repeating her words back to her and pushes the stick down and dives into the ship, its the most badass moment in film I've seen in a decade. Gives me chills everytime.
You didn't quite get it. The council were so arrogant that they dismissed Jor-El's prediction that Krypton would be destroyed due to the constant harvesting from the planet's core. Maybe they thought they had more time but In the original movie they simply didn't believe him despite being a scientist
About the bartender, I believe it is supposed to be Bibbo Bibbowski, Superman's favorite barman in Metropolis. And Loïs drinks Whisky because she was raised by her father, General Samuel Lane, in a military camp, as her mother died when she was very young. That's also why she is that confident around military, she just know how they think, and how far she can poke them without consequences.
Superman's original powerset was, and I quote, "Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound." Over time this was expanded to include flight, heat vision, x-ray vision, frost breath, invulnerability to almost everything (except kryptonite and magic) but in the beginning it was, as George said, human but super.
Clark was like 17 when his dad died, despite Cavill being the actor in the scene. And he was just doing was his dad told him to in a stressful situation: taking care of his mom instead of the dog to start and then not risking saving his dad at the end.
In the comics Johnathon Kent dies of a heart attack. It's a fundamental lesson for Clark that despite all his power, sometimes he won't be able to do anything to save a person. The tornado is a poor substitute because it's something Clark could have rescued his Dad from.
@@peterbrazukas7771 but the point of the tornado in this adaptation was to show that even though you have power, you must use it judiciously and for the right reasons. Neither Clark, nor the world were ready to be introduced to “Superman”. The entire point of the Snyder “trilogy” as it stands, is Clark’s arc from humble beginnings to being hated by the world, to proving himself as a good and trustworthy symbol of hope (dying in the process), to being a beacon for the Justice League to assemble and to return to save the world from Darkseid (JL2 and 3). The heart attack works to show he isn’t all powerful. The tornado works to show the reality of our world as one that judges first and vindicates later, but is still worth saving.
@@daxk9160 it was done very terribly ngl, the tornado was dumb all around im sorry, some things don't need to be changed becuz the original idea was probably better and in this case the original idea was MILES better
@@rasenganmaster101 I respect your opinion, but I disagree. The difference in approach was intentional to take the story in a slightly new direction. I understand some people want every adaptation to follow the source material 100% and that’s okay, but I also appreciated this version trying to tell an alternate tale of Superman’s mythology. At the end of the day, there are and will be countless attempts to tell this story for years and years to come, so I have no problem seeing things change here and there with each new iteration. Keeps the character fresh. Just a shame they weren’t able to finish telling Henry’s Superman story before starting all over again 🤷🏽♂️
@@daxk9160 theres no fresh argument here, u could take the direction of the story differently WITH a well written scene. That scene was dumb from the build up alone, the ONLY way the scene of his parents dying from natural causes worked is becuz he couldn't help them even if he wanted to. Proving he's not god, and humbling any chance of him thinking otherwise. This version it was about choice i get that... but the choice is a shittily glued together one that any DECENT superman writer would know clark would save him, not only save him but it be realistic as to why no one would figure he's superhuman becuz people have survived these things before, he grabs his dad, shields him, gets in the car with him, boom saved. it should NEVER be choice of oooh should i save them or not, its fuckin superman its always yes and that "choice" bullshit didn't even come around at any point in the movie, its terrible.
The problem with Clark saving his father is that above all else his father believes he has to keep Clark’s identity a secret. If it was an isolated incident where he was involved with then they could explain away a strange event. However, with the bus scene, it shows that many people around him keeps seeing unexplainable things around Clark. So he has to let Johnathan sacrifice himself.
But like... why? There's a fucking tornado going on and everyone is freaking out. Clark easily could have sped in there, saved his father, and be back before anyone would notice in the chaos. Super easy, barely an inconvenience. The actual scene is just so contrived.
@@vsGoliath96‘woah how did Jonathan get here? IT WAS CLARK, YES IT WAS CLARK’ *cuts to them calling the government * They wouldn’t? Clark saved a bunch of their kids on the bus from drowning and YET THEY STILL had a problem
At 34:14 if you were to watch the clip of Clark saving that soldier falling from the helicopter in slow mo, you can see Clark rolling as he catches him so he DOESN’T kill him when grabbing him so aggressively 😊
When you say he's lucky he found these parents, that's usually the turning point in any sort of What If storyline they do with Superman. So there's an evil version who landed in New Jersey and got found by a mob couple (naturally), there's a story where he landed on a collective farm in Russia during the Cold War so he gets taken in by the state. Nearly always ends up much worse of course, cause otherwise the What If/Elseworlds wouldn't be much of a story.
My favourite part of the Soviet one Red Son is that he's still a nice dude trying to save people, but because he was essentially raised by Joseph Stalin his moral code is all messed up so he is the worse kind of Dictator: a well meaning one.
@@shinyagumon7015 That is one of my favourite alternative depiction´s of DC heros other is Vampire Batman in DC Elseworlds: Batman: The Vampire Trilogy
@@inquisitive6786 You didn't read Red Son, did you? In the story (which is written by Americans), he's still a good guy, he just has his mind twisted by Soviet propaganda until he has his eyes opened, but he's not inherently a bad person.
I'm exited to see your opinions on the Snyder DC movies. If you do decided to continue make sure to watch the Ultimate Edition of Batman vs Superman, it's only around 30-40 minutes longer then that theatrical cut and provide LS much needed exposition
Regarding why Clarke didn't save the dog instead of the father: of course he could have, but his father asked him to keep his mother safe.That always made sense to me.
Yes. All of this. Dad told Clark to take care of his mom - Clark deep down respected his Dad and did what he was told, even down to hesitating for an instant when he could have dashed in and saved him from the tornado because Dad waved him off. This was one of the most moving parts of the movie for me. Were people who didn't understand this not lucky enough to be raised by awesome Dads? 🥺
It’s terrible. It’s noise and percussion. I like the movie but the score is just…ugh. It’s so bland. It’s all Beeerrrrrmmm, dum dum dum. And that overused piano theme. That’s it. The BvS score is way better
In the Richard Donner's 70's version, Christopher Reeve did a great job making Superman and Clark Kent two different persons by working a lot on chamging the body lamguage. Fact 1: Henry Cavill stayed among the people outside the theater during the Premiere, like anyone else, and no one recognized him. Fact 2: I made a Remus Lupin cosplay from the 5th movie with the goatee and no one recognize it. Then I took off the goatee taking only the mustache, like in the 3rd movie, Prizoner of Azkaban, and magically people started to recognize the cosplay. So yes, taking on and off glasses may work.
Well said. People don't realize as well that it isn't about the glasses its about how Clark is not scene. About how so many of us go through this world unnoticed.
Body language doesn't change the fact that your appearance is still the same. Let's not pretend it's not a silly concept, just gotta suspend disbelief a bit.
@@gemelwalters2942 "appereance". The word says it by itself. There are many look alike people. Out of the proper context you could unrecognize the same person, or even changing one for another. As said, no one recognized Henry Cavill among people outside the theater, just because you think he couldn't be him and think it's just a look alikle person. And if he's good in changing his body language, which is the 80% of our personality, it's a reinforcement. Anyway, since in the comics they've explained that Superman has the pawer to confuse other minds on that, and the same concept could be extended on every masked people, easily recognizable by their relatives and close friends, there's nothing silly about that, but just the will to accept it as a fictional fact or not.
It's all about intent. If you don't expect to see Superman, your not looking for him. Makes it a lot easier to blend in. I mean real world example, Dolly Parton lost a Dolly Parton lookalike contest to a cross dresser. Who would expect the real Dolly to enter a lookalike contest
You guys absolutely need to do Batman V Superman. BUT, the extended cut. Also, the 4 hour Justice League is absolutely worth it!! Also, you may as well check out the first Wonder Woman film, also.
yes, listen to or actually read this person and react to the DC universe. It is a little fractured but start with Bryan's list and go from there. You will not regret it.
I'm certain someone else has mentioned this, but when John Byrne took over writing Superman comics, he had the same issue with the strength, so he decided that it and his invulnerability are partially telekinetic, keeping things he lifts from breaking and making his costume as tough as he is
Clark's powers grow over time. He's quite fast. He's not fast enough to save his Dad in that moment and have none of the dozens of people staring at them see it. He could've saved the Dog.... then when that car lands on him and he pushes it off like a fallen leaf on his shoulder, his secret is again revealed. Thats why his Dad sent him off with his Mom in the first place, he knows Clark will blow his secret. Ultimately its not about whether he COULD have, the point is his Father refuses to risk it, because he's convinced his son being revealed at that moment would have catastrophic consequences.
George:"could you imagine if he grew up to be an asshole?" Someone has imagined that. In fact, they made a movie about it a few years ago. It's called "Brightburn"
This movie has some of the most spectacular action sequences on film. They have this weight to them that makes them feel real as opposed to purely fantastical, haven’t seen this in any other movie of this nature. I also really love the serious tone and sort of realistic approach of the movie. The collateral damage and casualties for example, are meant to showcase what would happen in real life if beings as powerful as kryptonians would battle in our world. Glad that Simone was able to pick up that General Zod was simply following his genetic programming, ensuring the survival of his race, no matter the means. He couldn’t do it any other way, he didn’t really have a choice. Very compelling characterization if you ask me. Thanks for the reaction guys.
Maybe Clark could have saved his Dad without giving away his identity, but it’s a big maybe. We know that Superman has super speed, but it’s not shown anywhere in the movie at that point. Why would we assume he has that power or knows about that power yet. Jonathan Kent’s priority is to protect his son and Clark chooses to trust his dad in an emergency situation. There is absolutely nothing implausible about the situation.
He hadn't really developed mastery over his powers at this point - strength and invulnerability were innate, but his senses and other powers like flight and speed he had to learn. At the time his dad died, he wouldn't have been skilled enough to save him on the sly. He would have had to exposed himself.
I love how they seem to show ‘how’ he can fly through his physical performance, especially when he first tries it. It’s almost like he’s able to exert force against the atmosphere and essentially push his body against or pull himself through the air, like a snake slithers itself through water, it’s a nice little detail that’s never really been done with Superman on screen before to show an actual way he can do something like that
Yeh the tornado death kinda bothered me too, in the Reeves film it was a heart attack - it's an important lesson fo Clark, that he is very powerful, but not ALL powerful, there's sometimes lives you can't save, but you should always try your best to save as many as possible. But you know, it's Zach Snyder, a heart attack wouldn't involve any special effects lmao
Simone - In answer to your question about Clark's dad, the original story was that he died of a heart attack. This is the only version of the story that has the Dad pass away in this manner.
In the very original version, we never found out how Jonathan and Martha Kent died. Origins of superheroes in the Golden Age were not fleshed out at all. In Superman #1, the entire origin is given two pages. The Kents appear in three panels and then we have another panel with Clark looking at their tombstones.
The thing I really liked about this film is it realistically depicts what would happen if god-like beings fought one another. The destruction would be epic.
You can find some clipped videos where people have put this and BvS against the old cartoons from the 90's...you can find scene for scene comparisons all over...but it hits differently when it looks real.
There's a movie called Brightburn which is basically Superman, but he's evil. The cartoon show Invincible also gives a good idea as to what would happen if Superman was actually against the rest of the Justice League.
The other thing you should know about Superman is that he was co-created by a Canadian, Joe Shuster, and The Daily Planet was inspired by the Toronto Globe (now the Globe and Mail).
@@bemasaberwyn55 Looks like I have it wrong. According to Wikipedia (so it HAS to be right😋) It WAS originally named the Daily Star and was based on the old Toronto Star building, home of the Toronto Star, then called The Daily Star, where Joe Shuster was a newsboy. Right city, wrong paper. It also says that Metropolis was originally inspired by Toronto but has come to serve as an analogue to New York City.
Probably the best example of the Clarke Kent/Superman "separation" is with Christopher Reeves Superman. It's still hard to believe people are fooled, but as Clarke he pulls his shoulders in, hunches a little, tends to be clumsy and speaks in a more hesitant and less confident manner... Plus the glasses.
When you ask about Jonathan and the original history, originally Supes parents had died right after graduation. Then there were the movies where only Pa died. Then the post-Crisis comics where they were both alive... then 100 different continuity reboots.
Lois and Clark ("The New Adventures of Superman" in the UK) with Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher has both Ma and Pa Kent alive, at least in the early seasons. I lost track of it later on, so I'd possible that one of both of them could have died during or between later seasons (although given the general tone, I imagine that would only have happened if the actor in question died).
Fun facts , Superman is at least half Canadian as the co-creator Shuster was Canadian. In the original comic Metropolis was modeled after Toronto and the Daily Planet was the Toronto Star
In the comics, Superman’s eyes are so blue that they are almost hypnotic. It’s often the first thing people notice about him. When he puts on Clark’s glasses, they dull the effect. Plus, he changes his body language and so on.
@Hear vIrTuE SiGnAl turn & find the worst it is indeed from the Birthright comic, not sure if any comment was made on his eyes besides that comic. It was one of Snyder's big inspos for this film, too bad it was a less than mediocre result. Great looking film though!
The scene at the bar was filmed on Vancouver Island at an old highway bar called (The Cassidy ) drank there once or twice before it closed about 20 years ago and before you start it was abandoned when they filmed there.
His dad symbolized the good nature humans have to save and protect. That’s why his dad ordered him to ensure the people got to safety (Superman protects) while his father risked his life helping anyone he could find. Then he sacrificed him self because he didn’t want Clark to expose him self because he meant that much to him. Permanently teaching Clark the value of humans and why he should protect them at all cost.
Pretty much the only thing that bothered me about this movie is toward the end when Supes was trying to keep Zod from laser-eyeing that family in the train station. He was preventing Zod's head from moving, but that doesn't keep a person's eyes from moving. Zod could have just side-eyed them into dust.
Zod wanted Kal to kill him, just erasing the family would have taken away the need for Kal to make the decision. Kal killed Zod to stop the death of the family, (and the rest of humanity.)
Clark absolutely could have saved Pa Kent. That's one of the big points of contention with this film. In the comics, he's usually alive long enough to see Clark become Superman.
Not without people seeing him do it. Pa Kent's whole thesis was that the world wasn't yet ready for a Superman, and that in order for them to accept him he would need to do something spectacular in entering it, like, say, saving an entire city from a genocidal maniac. Why do people not understand this very simple plot beat?
the only reason Supes was given the ability to fly was when they started to animate him and the animators found it much easier to draw flying then jumping.
I believe Superman started flying with the really old Max Fleischer animated cartoons. They had him jumping all the time, but it got annoying for the animators to have him constantly falling and needing something to land on to jump off of again to become airborne.
And I think the laser eyes thing. I think he gets his energy or powers from the earth’s sun so that is why he can shoot lasers out of his eyes. Did he always have that in the comics?
@@Serenity113 No. He's gained new powers over the decades depending on the writers. Originally, it was basically just super strength and invulnerability. Such as he couldn't fly, but could only jump long distances. A lot of cues were taken from the original "John Carter" novel. Laser eyes came later.
In actual fact Ron the earliest Comics had him leaping over tall buildings but it wasn't until the original radio program which also introduced characters such as Perry white, things like the Daily Planet(which had been the Daily Star) and of course Kryptonite we're all introduced their as well as his ability to fly.
@@bemasaberwyn55 Kryptonite was just an excuse to let the radio actor go on vacation or something like that. It was a way to weaken him so they could get another person to make grunting noises. I think that was the story.
As far as his early abilities, you were right. Leap tall buildings in a single bound, more powerful than a locomotive, faster than a speeding bullet. The original creators, Seigel and Shuster, were very interested in making an immigrant from the stars type hero, and drew somewhat on biblical heroic archetypes - Samson's strength and power being primary, Elijah outpacing a chariot on foot, and so on. Through the rest of the gold and silver age of comics his powerset would grow immensely to feature all kinds of wacky nonsense. His alien origins were a license for writers to have him solve problems by manifesting a previously undisclosed talent for hypnosis, or to pull a shrink ray out of his pocket. Early comics revelled in this kind of silliness; only as time went by, and particularly as Superheroes started cohering into universes with counterparts for them to fight and team up with, did writers start even attempting to codify what Superman can, and more importantly can't do. Interestingly, the original Superman property is going into Public Domain soon - but ONLY the original leaping, running, strong Superman that exists in Action Comics #1 and its immediate run. It will be interesting seeing what people do with a public property of Superman who is the 'original' superman but very much unlike the totality of the heat-vision having, kryptonite fearing, batman best friending one we know today.
31:31 it’s actually a mixture of the two, Superman can survive without food, air, etc and live off of pure sunlight but he also has crazy lung capacity which is why he has freeze breath so he could hold his breath for a long time if he wanted
About his dad dying, Superman's embodiment was being honorable and knowing that his dad was convinced about his belief that the world wasn't ready for him: I see it in the way that he always knew that he could save his dad in whichever way possible whether doing it like a normal guy would or not, rather he respected his dad's conviction. That's always what made Superman good (or bad) inherently because he did not lie and he respected people who had respect for themselves and their word.
Simone, in Smallville they show Clarks parents on earth years before they send Clark there. they interact with the Kent's and determine them good people so that's why they sent Clark there
My favorite comicbook movie of all time. Great cast, great story, no stupid gimmicks or slapstick humor, and corny one-liners. An actual movie that takes the character and its source material seriously. Just a good effing Superman movie, with some of the best fight scenes I've seen since the Matrix.
Really need to watch the 1978 superman after this to see how much differently they characterized superman and clark, because the one thing this superman gets wrong is that superman always does the right thing at any cost. But in this version, superman has doubt if saving people is the right thing to do.
This is possibly my favourite comic book film ever. I respect how much George understood the nuances. Clark not being a soldier, fighting in the towns/city's consequences. I'm sure people have already commented, but Jonathan Kent originally dies from a Heart attack, before Clark goes off into the arctic to create his fortress of solitude. Definitely watch BvS Ultimate Edition and Snyder's JL. Then go watch the original superman 1 and 2. They are faithful to the original back story/comics. "City is ruined...Even Batman..." Haha. . Perfect. People fail to realize that even though Superman drew Zod to Earth, he still destroyed the world engine and saved all of humanity.
There are some interesting concepts in some versions of Superman where he can do things like manipulating his zygomatic muscles to actually look different as Clark Kent. But the simplest explanation for why people don't recognize him is that he's Superman. He doesn't wear a mask or conceal his identity. People are not looking for an alter ego
Great reaction video, you both asked good questions about the mythos of Superman and the comics. A couple of small things to hopefully help answer your questions: The original version of Superman was still an alien from Krypton. Sent to earth as a baby, his parents adopted him out of an orphanage they took him to when he started tearing up the place with his super baby strength. After his parents (natural) deaths, he became Superman. His powers were super strength, invulnerability (nothing less than a bursting shell could break his skin), and the ability to leap 1/8 of a mile. Super vision soon came along as well. In the 60's and 70's Superman became much more super powered with the ability to break lightspeed and travel through time, to easily travel unprotected through space, and his various vision powers, extreme strength, etc. His adoptive father and mother were both alive and running a store in Smallville, Kansas. This version of Superman began his adventures as a boy and was well known as Superboy before becoming an adult. In the 80s, the character was de-powered to a degree to once again be super strong, have heat vision and a degree of invulnerability. His powers developed around puberty, so he wasn't Superboy anymore, and his parents were both still alive and working their farm in Kansas. He could only survive in space as long as he could hold his breath, though the vacuum of space itself wouldn't hurt him. This is the version of Superman from the "Death of Superman" storyline in the early 90s. Through all the versions of Superman, Lois Lane is his love interest and somehow does not realize Clark Kent is Superman until she's told this by Superman himself. He has a decent sized supporting cast. It'd be great to see you guys watch the original Christopher Reeve Superman and Superman II, which feature Zod, and Superman's origin. Reeve played both Kent and Superman well, making the transition between the two believable. When you do watch Batman V Superman, make sure to watch the Extended version. Certain plot points are nearly nonsensical in the theatrical release, and the restored footage makes a couple of things make more sense. Keep doing a great job like you have been, it's so much fun to watch you two react!
"How precise are those laser eyes?" One time, Superman temporarily depowered a psychic enemy by focusing the lasers through the enemy's eyes into the specific part of the brain the guy got his powers from, effectively giving the guy a super lobotomy.
If you do Batman vs Superman, I recommend the Ultimate Edition because it flows better and has much better continuity. And definitely Zack Snyder's Justice League, not the theatrical cut.
You're a trooper for getting through this while still recovering George. I would love if you guys reacted to the full 4 hour cut of Justice League. 🙏 Us fans of Zack's original vison waited years for it, almost thinking it would never be released, and it's a completely different movie than from the theater release. Since it's done in chapters it will be much easier to react to.
I agree,the Snyder cut is brilliant & would definitely watch a reaction video of you guys,& tbh the film absolutely doesn’t feel like a 4 hour film,it flies by!
I loved the questions you asked about Superman and batman's positions in society, and especially the point on Luthor VS Superman being the battle of man VS god. Those are exactly the things that get addressed in BvS. Just make sure you watch the ultimate edition.
@@reesebn38 I totally agree. These are *not* the marvel films, and so much stronger for standing out as their own thing. I think the themes Zac Snyder plays with are fantastic, and his trilogy is my favorite superhero trilogy ever. And don't get me wrong, I love the marvel films and Civil War, infinity and endgame would be my second favorite trilogy.
More about Superman for Simone and George: He gets stronger and regenerates when he flies towards earth's sun. But under a red sun, like on Krypton, he's strong as an average human. As far as his superpowers, he has: flight, super-human strength, cold breath, heat vision, he can see through solid objects, super-human speed, and can fly at unbelievable speed.
Even under a red sun he's not average though. He's superior to all other Kryptonians due to being of natural birth and Jor El tweaking his genetics in utero. Kal is the ultimate Kryptonian which is why he can go toe to toe with the genetically modified Nam Ek. Nam Ek was experimented on to basically make him Krypton's Captain America and Kal not only matched him, but beat him. Also, his powers are a little more refined. He doesn't have super human strength, he has Super Strength, even super humans can't match him. Freeze Breath is caused by his massive lung capacity and the ability to compress the air inside them to Absolute Zero. Super Breath can surpass any wind speed ever recorded on Earth. His Heat Vision can go hotter than the sun and can be as precise as a surgeons scalpel or as broad as his field of vision. His vision powers don't stop there though, he can focus down to the microscopic level or outward to see outside the galaxy itself. (he can also see THROUGH dimensions and time, but we won't go into those powers) and can see in any spectrum he chooses to. He is also a better shot than anybody with any type of projectile weapon or throwing weapon. On Lois & Clark, he was showing up a guy flirting with Lois by scoring just slightly better than the guy at darts with his LEFT HAND, and then due to annoyance, he switched to his right hand and without looking, he split the guy's dart which was in the Bull's Eye like Robin Hood. His X-Ray vision can see through anything except lead. He doesn't have super human speed, he has Super Speed there is a difference. He's the fourth fastest being in DC, following Wally West Flash, Barry Allen Flash and Reverse Flash, and now he's doesn't even recognize time or distance so he may have surpassed the Flashes entirely. His flight speed is immeasurable and his combat speed is equal to his flight speed. On top of all his physical capabilities, he's the smartest being on Earth, easily out-classing super smart humans like Lex Luthor and Bruce Wayne (though many don't realize just how intelligent Clark really is because he hides it almost as much as he hides his true identity and he just isn't interested in being the foremost expert on every topic in the world..) Superman was the son of a genius, and Jor El was a genius on a planet with an 8th Level society, making him essentially a 9th Level intellect or close to it. Kal is also at base a 9th Level Intellect, but with his yellow sun enhancements, he is more like an 10th or 11th Level Intellect. He routinely takes Jor El's inventions and both completes them and greatly improves them. Brainiac is the only known 13th Level Intellect, even though Lex Luthor claims to be one. Kal is able to read human genetic code and memorize individual people. He has an eidetic memory which allows him to learn anything once and with Kryptonian muscles not tiring, he can become an expert martial artist after learning the moves once and he never gets rusty. He can pick out one heartbeat out of the entire population while floating in orbit. He can listen to an ant crawling across a jungle floor from space. He has noted in his thoughts that he can make all of Batman's gadgets 100% more effective but won't make the offer because Bruce would take it as an insult. Kal has noted that he can solve all the world's problems with Kryptonian Technology but will not do so as it is not his place to. He will inspire and lead, but not be the answer. As of the events of the Lazarus Planet, Supes now possesses the Power of Invincibility while Supergirl has the Power of Strength. He was getting OP before, but now he literally cannot be beaten and with him no longer recognizing weight, distance, time, speed, he's one step below actual godhood.
Only parents can fully understand why pa Kent did what he did. The world wasn't ready for an alien to be this powerful and he wasn't ready either. It would've destroyed Clark completely. You will see how the world "accepts" him in BvS. There are consequences to his actions in man of Steel.
Pretty much any criticisms of this movie are 100% fair and justified. I have no idea how this won a poll, it is genuinely one of the most dull and drab "superhero" movies ever. The follow up is somehow both less dull and more boring, and the Zach Snyder alt-cut is a mission statement on how much he hates editors and desperately needs them. The man makes 1.5 good movies and he somehow gets control of the entire DC universe for a decade. It's freaking weird.
Henry Cavill actually went and stood in time square with the glasses on and no one recognized him until he took them off. Some times subtle changes go a long way
While I agree that small changes can influence how you see someone, it was Times Square. No one pays any attention to anyone else, in New York.
Plus, how many print-only journalists could *you* pick out of a lineup? Clark Kent's byline might be famous, but his face isn't. To anyone on the street he'd be a guy who happens to "look a bit like Superman, in the right light, if you squint a bit and imagine him taller."
What’s funnier is he deliberately stood under a billboard with his face as superman on
@@Eidlones Yet, they DID notice him when he took off the glasses.
nah
One version of Jonathan Kent´s fate is he dying of a heart attack, showing that some things, despite Clarks´s awesome power, can´t be stopped from happening or defeated. I love how humbling this is to a demigod and help us to relate to him. Or, help him to relate to us.
Facts. That part in the 1978 movie has so much in it despite how short it was. And it's been repeated ever since, even with Martha in "Superman & Lois". She died of a stroke (?).
But this version and universe is about choices
Both parents die of natural causes in the original 1938 comic book.
Johnathan dies of a heart attack in the 1952 TV series starring George Reeves, the 1978 movie and on Smallville.
As the original commenter noted, it was to show that Superman can't stop the mortality of the humans he loves.
The Man of Steel tornado death was just stupid.
The entire portrayal of Johnathan Kent in Man of Steel is stupid.
Johnathan Kent would NEVER advise Clark to let innocent children die.
@@schpiner8653 exactly, it is one of my main issues with this movie
@@schpiner8653 stupid because you didn’t understand it or want to be told the same story over and over again? The script was written by 2 well respected writers in Nolan and Goyer, you have the nerve to call them stupid for updating and giving the audiences something new. I would have called it lazy and stupid if it was a simple heart attack yet again. It’s Kansas so much like the Wizard of Oz it’s known for massive Tornados so not surprising a Tornado hits in Kansas. Pa Kent has been preaching to Clark all his life that he needs to hide his gifts from this wold because he knows what would happen to his son if this government found out about him and at a younger age he is not prepared to deal with mankind and it’s selfish evil ways. Pa Kent also has no clue how Clark would use his powers in front of all the people watching from the overpass. No one knows not even Clark, so if his instincts kick in while trying to save his father he could very well expose himself and the Kent’s who would also be taken by the government. That scene is so powerful and speaks to how much Pa Kent loved his son that he would die to protect him not only from himself but from mankind who as he said earlier in the movie fears what they don’t understand. If you look at the first fight scene with the Kryptonians they are given orders to fire their weapons not only on the Kryptonians but also in Superman. This is also proven in the next movie Batman v Superman when mankind turns on Superman. That scene is only “stupid” to the stupid people who don’t understand. Let script writers and directors make what their vision is not like the studios who destroyed Batman v Superman and Justice League by meddling and editing and butchering the vision that Nolan, Goyer, and Snyder had for this epic franchise. It’s “stupid” people like the one who posted this comment that feed into that meddling. Sorry but that scene is far from stupid, if you don’t like it don’t watch it yet again just to post some personal negative opinion.
When Simone said it felt pretty hopless when the beam was catching Perry and his team, that right there is the definition of Superman. When the movie felt the most hopeless, he overcame the machine and saved the world even having literally the weight of the planet on his back. That's Superman. He's the ultimate beacon of hope
I love that scene. When he focus his power, everything he has to save the world and flys up and through the world engine. I tear up. It is a true Superman moment.
*He flies into frame*
"I AM HERE! HA! HA! HA!"
“And now, I have no people…my soul, that! Is what you have taken from me!” This is probably my all time favorite superhero movie of all time
MINE too.This movie was-GREAT. I felt hopeful after watching this film.
I think what Pa Kent was thinking was that he was trying to make sure Clark wasn’t in a position where he’d be forced or tempted to use his power in view of all those people. He doesn’t know Clark is basically invincible or, even if he did, he’s trying to protect Clark’s anonymity because he knows that Clark’s life will change for the worse if the world knows what he is. That was worth putting his life at risk or dying to Jonathan Kent.
Yeah i cant believe some viewers still can't put two & two about that scene to this day!
@@changsangma1915yeah it's quite annoying how obvious it is and yet they keep getting annoyed at the dad/direction they went.
Yeah and his dad was teaching him that sacrifice is a necessity
I believe the whale story that Simone mentioned had to do with a whale that sang at a different frequency than the other whales because of a mutation. So the others couldn't hear him singing and he was wandering the ocean alone...forever.
Not so much that they don't hear, but it's like its speaking the wrong language, or with an indecipherable accent. It's sad either way.
Mutation is a bit harsh. It's most likely a hybrid of blue and fin whales. But it's not all sad, they started recording a second 52 hertz whale about a decade ago, so not alone anymore.
They actually discovered that that whale found a mate singing at the same frequency😄
@@JonathanMandrake There really is someone for everyone
@@mediumvillain There are many fish in the sea😂
George asked briefly about what if Superman ended up with bad parents ... the answer is the movie Brightburn.
Or Superman: Red Son, where he didn't land in the US but in the USSR and fights not for the American way, but communism.
I think Brightburn was more about the alien’s nature rather than upbringing. The biology class makes it clear.
The kid is a cuckoo in the nest. With alien psychology and instincts. With nothing to test his limits or establish boundaries, his Id is unrestrained.
Or what if superman was raised in a lab by corporate assholes, then you get homelander
They weren't bad parents, they just weren't Diane Lane and Kevin Costner.
@@smith22041Yeah itsbome of the lamest parts of superman. Only “the murican way” makes him a good guy somehow
Michael Shannon's General Zod is the most underrated villain in the history of comic book movies. His last monologue gives me chills every time.
He's a villain with a relatable goal, but has a fanatical way to accomplish it.
"I will fiiiiind him"
How intense? Yes!
I agree
Cant wait to see Zod again in "The Flash" 🤟♥️
Definitely. The original Zod was awesome too.
Good job George picking up on the fact that until Zod and his forces showed up. Clark had never been in a fight and he's now fighting highly trained soldiers. So he's literally learning in the moment.
It’s wild how so many people missed that. People give the film flak for depicting a Superman before he ACTUALLY became Superman.
The pain superman felt when he killed zod was real. He let out a cry knowing he killed the only other living member of his race. Literally spent his whole life thinking he was a weirdo and alone, then had to kill his dads friend. Really sad tbh. He didn't wanna kill zod
Edit: superman's main villain is Lex Luther. Some other notable ones are doomsday, darkseid, and black Adam.
I believe the reason why his father went back for the dog instead of Clark was that his mother was a higher priority to keep safe. The father was convinced of his belief that it was Clarks inexperience with the world and being impressionable due to still trying to find himself that the world would try and take advantage of and corrupt him.
The world needed to grow up just as much as Clark did at that time.
And the extended Snyder version of Justice League is broken into chapters to make the movie easier to watch. It is Leagues better than the other version + Superman vs Batman. S v B could be skipped entirely if it didn't setup the next movie.
The real reason is because David Goyer is a hack writer.
Well said.
@@Amonabus Batman vs Superman theater version was really bad - but Director's cut is a good movie.
I personally still prefer the original way Pa Kent died (heart attack) because it teaches Clark that he’s not a God and can’t interfere when someone dies of natural causes. There’s nothing he could have done. But with an external cause (tornado), there’s endless debating of whether he could or should have changed the outcome.
The thing about the damage with the fight at the end... Zod wasn't after Superman. Zod was out to murder as many people as he could to punish Superman. Superman tried to take the fight away from Metrpolis but Zod kept directing the fight back there as he wanted to destroy and kill more. Superman leaving would've let Zod destroy the entire city. There was no avoiding the collateral damage. The best thing to do would be end the fight as fast as possible.
Well not to mention zod set up one of those big gravity things right in the city and was going to kill everybody anyway. But yeah, hard to prevent collateral damage when the villains whole goal is collateral damage
Yeah, I felt like that was obvious when Zod said "I am going to make them suffer", but people seem to miss it because they constantly blame Superman for the destruction in the climactic scenes. But it is clearly the villains causing the destruction and Superman trying to stop them. (Batman v. Superman even wrote this into the movie as a major plot point, but people still don't seem to get it.)
Thats for saying that. Most people are stupid.
@@bloodymarvelous4790 Incorrect, they knew what they were doing, to show collateral damage and develop it
@@bloodymarvelous4790 Bullshit. What you see is a war between two elements: fantasy and practicality. Man Of Steel is a question: can Superman exist in a post-Sept 11 world? You got 24-hour news, social media and fear mongers like Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump speaking lies. How does a superhero fit into that realism?
Canonically, Johnathon Kent (Clark's human father) dies of a heart attack while Clark has to stand by powerless to save him. Unlike the tornado death, this actually makes sense as there really is nothing Clark can do to stop an old man from heart failure. It's also the event that teaches Clark to accept that there are limits to his power and that he can't save everyone.
Also, Jonathan Kent didn't try and get Clark to hide away from the world. He taught him that he had his gifts for a reason, to help others, and instilled in his adopted son the ethos that drives Superman to be a force for good.
Exactly, this always bothered me. Superman treasures human life. That was his thing. It is also the only reason you'd ever feel safe around something that powerful. There is no canon explanation for his character to not save his father. It was a bad call by Snyder. Felt like something someone who didn't like Superman would make him do. Along with the destruction of the city. In the early versions of the films, there is a similar scenario where Zod is destroying Metropolis and Superman looks around and realizes they are causing massive damage. He decides to take the fight elsewhere. Actually to the North Pole as George actually suggests in this video.
@@videojourneyswell Superman WAS trying to take the fight elsewhere. They kept throwing him back towards the city. Then Zodd intended to kill people full stop, so Superman _couldn’t_ leave the city.
@sixstringpsycho That’s the only part that makes total sense to me. Zod wanted to kill as many humans as possible.
Isn't there some depiction of some hero out there that actually can prevent a heart from stopping, or somehow heal it? I feel like I remember something in which a person could literally reach into their chest and pump their heart. I have no idea where I'm drawing this from, to be honest.
Christopher Reeve depicted the distinction between Clark Kent and Superman the best. It was almost believable that they might be two different people.
It was always stated that his depiction of Clark was how he viewed humans being clumsy, weak, and insecure.
Reeve's Daily Planet Clark Kent was a lie, and Superman is about truth.
This version was better. This Clark was still a farm boy who was the low key, mild mattered side to a bold Superman.
The objective of this Clark was just to blend in, not to lie.
Christopher Reeve said he was tired of playing Clark Kent that way..He said -"Clark was a farm boy from Kansas who baled hey and ate Cheerios...Not a moron"..
@@dignerds Fair enough. Then I think I'd pick Tyler Hoechlin's Clark from the Superman and Lois TV show as my favourite. That one felt more natural.
@@marcusmcgill4423but he was raised as clark kent not as superman, some versions have the suit as just a way to use his powers without exposing his identity
@@tmnuzi1623 Yes, the Kent's raised him with morals and taught him how to be a good man, but when he gets to the Daily Bugle, it was stated by the writers that his disguise with the glasses and how clumsy wasn't just to hide his identity, but how he also viewed a lot of humanity.
I've always liked the theory that people don't recognise Clark Kent as Superman because they don't expect Superman to have a secret ID. Everyone *knows* that Superman spends his day saving people and hanging out with Wonder Woman, not pretending to be ordinary, because that's what most good people would do with Superman's powers. When you are looking for Superman you look *up* not at the person beside you.
Theory? That’s the reason Lex Luthor himself doesn’t believe Kent is Superman.
Poor George, you could tell around the 40:00 he was in some real pain. Hope you heal fast, bro.
I noticed that too. Poor dude.
“They should fight somewhere else” oh and the “Clark should just fly somewhere else” yea like Zod wouldn’t destroy the city to make him come back or just throw his ass back into the city 🤦🏾♂️
“There goes fox network” cringe bro, I highly doubt your educated enough on politics to talk about it especially a political news network you don’t even watch.
@@ThatShyGuyMatt Yes, Canada has always had Orajel... It's a surface pain reliever, it's essentially useless on deeper pain because it cannot act on what it cannot touch.
@@ThatShyGuyMatt but does it bind and hold on tight?
@Darkstar YEEE DAWWGY
The interesting thing is that both of Clark's bullies became better people. Pete Ross (Dicksplash) stopped being a bully and eventually wound up as the Manager of I-Hop and the guy that was tormenting him against the fence became the Priest that Clark speaks to for guidance, or else the Priest and the kid looked a lot alike on accident.
Oh, was that kid the priest?? I never realized that. Nice.
I think Superman's most remarkable superpower is self-control. He has almost unlimited power and must be absolutely controlled in everything he does. Every one of his bodily functions, every one of his smallest movements, even if he were to sneeze, could trigger a catastrophe. So being able to control himself 24/7 like that is his most important power.
Cue prompt to watch the "World of Cardboard" speech from the Justice League animated series.
@@ianrosenbalm6555 I was just thinking the same thing lol
@@ianrosenbalm6555 that would suck to deal with
I think the actual reason Clark's dad had him head to the overpass was to protect the other people and his mom. In the end he just didn't want to have Clark expose himself. It could have been done better but I think it makes more sense when you put yourself in Johnathan's shoes.
And this movie was made before the full (still in progress) Debunking of the popularized notion that it's "safe" to shelter under an overpass (wind tunnel) during a tornado.
I see it as still wanting to give everything to make sure his son has a normal childhood, even at the cost of his own life.
The audience knows way more about Clark's powers than him or his parents do at that point in the story when the tornado happens. Pa Kent cannot reasonably expect to be saved without putting his kid's life in danger. They don't know he can't be hurt by a flying car, it's not something that comes up in a typical childhood. We know, because we've watched Superman movies and shows all our lives, we grew up with Smallville, but in this universe, in the DCEU, there is no instance in which Clark did something so "super" that it would establish his speed and invulnerability. And even if he did, and his family knew what he can do, tons of people were staring at Jonathan from below the overpass, and Clark and Jonathan suddenly vanishing and reappearing together would have destroyed their family. He hasn't even been shown to have super speed at this point in his life. Not on screen at least. Part of his journey in the comics is finding his limits, and being afraid of situations he's never had to voluntarily put himself in before. There is a whole lot going on in the Tornado scene, it's great, and sad, and as the last conversation he has with his dad, it affects him for the rest of his life.
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@@Powerhaus88 weird to come back and find my comment copied. I can only imagine the parts in the middle are copied from some one else here.
With his dad dying:
Clark was still a teenager. Young adult at best. He was scared and yes if he was adult Superman he would have just taken over the situation, but instead he listened to his dad. And once his dad got into the point where he couldn't make it back... Clark was about to go speed run and get him... but all those people would see that. It would expose him. And then the world would want to control him and test him and make him a test rat... and his dad sacrificed himself so that his son wouldn't have to reveal himself yet... not until he was ready and could handle it.
there are two main points about Clark trying to take the fight somewhere safe: the first one is that this is his first time dealing with something that represents a real threat, we could say that he isn't a full superhero yet, so he's basically a noob. The second one is that Zod would have seen what he was trying to do and like he said, he wanted to kill every human on earth
About the Clark/Superman disguise. Henry Cavill did an experiment after Man of Steel came out, just before Batman Vs Superman. He went and stood in Times Square, under a giant billboard of Batman Vs Superman, wearing a superman T-shirt. And literally no one recognized him, not a single person, he just blended in. It shows most people aren't paying that much attention.
It's also... Times Square..
@@jackg.1683 right? There’s a lot of things that are attention grabbers there than a tall good looking dude. And it’s not like Cavill was that well known at the time. In fact I suspect most actors could go unnoticed a lot of the time.
It could also be that New Yorkers really try not to bother the movie stars when you see them around. I've seen plenty and have never approached them. I've seen them everywhere. New Yorkers respect a Movie Star's space. Part of the reason why so many live here... I got a great story....
Patrick Stewart, who plays Jean Luc Piccard on Star Trek and Professor Xavier on X-Men, moved to Brooklyn NYC 2 - 3 years ago. Via Vanity Fair "I was walking home from an early morning walk to a pastry shop. I saw a couple of local men sitting on a staircase talking. They saw and recognized me. I thought "I'm not ready for this on an early Sunday morning....". As I walked by, the two local men said "Hey Stewart, welcome to the neighborhood..." In that New York kind of tone. At that point, I fell in love with the City...."
And yes, it's Times Square too....
Before the final fight Zod literally says he's going to make the people of Earth suffer, to hurt Kal-El. That is why the fight is so destructive, and Clark can't just fly away and expect Zod to follow. Zod is actively trying to kill as many humans as he can. If Clark flies away Zod will just kill all the humans around him until Clark re-engages him. The fight is Zod slaughtering humanity while Superman tries desperately to stop him.
Yes. It frustrates me how many people seem to miss this point when the movie clearly lays it out that way.
That dog don't hunt chief; Zod did not have Clark's ability to fly at the beginning of the fight. Clark could easily have grabbed him and moved the fight out to the Shara or the Artic.
@@noneya3635 yea i dont get why people dont realize that. He literally took him into space at one point. They just had to have it all take place in Metropolis is all.
@@freebird6591 Because they are having knee jerk reactions to the argument that this movie has a poorly thought out script. Some people just refuse to hear rational disagreement and fall back on "you're just mad because..." In short being mistaken is seen by many as a personal failure and cannot be tolerated.
That’s a fun idea and all, but it barely holds water. Not to mention that Clark never once’s goes out of his way to prevent damage or save lives until the very end of the fight when it’s relevant to the shallow plot. Like when he just hops over the gas truck sliding towards him, letting it destroy a building.
Just wanted to answer a few of your questions/points
1. Superman's heat vision is one way his body releases the solar energy he's absorbed. He's basically a walking solar battery; the more yellow sunlight he absorbs, the stronger he becomes. He can release a massive blast that depletes him entirely of solar energy and leaves him essentially powerless until he recharges.
2. Back in 1938, when the first Superman comic was published, Krypton was a planet of humanoid beings that had evolved to the peak of human perfection, basically a planet of Captain America's. That's why when he first came out, Superman could "leap tall buildings in a single bound". Now he's basically a god.
3. General Zod and Faora-Ul do have the same powers as Superman, being Kryptonians, and being trained soldiers does give them an advantage. But Superman is technically stronger than them both because he's been on Earth longer than them and absorbed more solar energy than they have.
4. Some of Superman's villains include his arch-nemesis Lex Luthor as well as Darkseid, Brainiac, Doomsday, Bizarro, and Mister Mxyzptlk. For the most part, they are god-level threats. So it makes sense that they're his villains.
5. It's probably been said before, but when Kal is Clark, he acts like an entirely different person. He speaks in a higher pitched voice, slouches over so people don't see how tall he really is, he wears baggy clothes to hide his muscles. Basically, Clark is to Superman what Bruce Wayne is to Batman. Also Superman has the ability to hypnotize people (I'm not kidding).
Hope this helps. Great reaction as always!
The Christopher Reeve quick face swap makes me smile every time I see it
According to Zack Snyder, that was a complete coincidence from camera angles and trick of the light. Henry and Christopher have similar bone structure.
Fun fact: Amy Adams (Lois Lane) actually played in one episode of tv show Smallville, about Supermen's early days, before being official hero.
yep
Christopher Reeve is the ONLY actor who could “almost” pull off Superman being unrecognizable as Clark Kent. He literally looks and acts like a completely different person. You could almost believe it. He nailed that aspect. Cavill is the perfect looking Superman (looks just like the comics) and Brandon Routh is the perfect Clark Kent. Reeve was just perfect all around.
I will grant you that Reeve's Clark Kent definitely acted like a completely different person. He definitely deserves the praise there. He did not, however, look like a completely different person.
I think the only best portrayal of the balance between superhero and the alter ego were Reeve's Superman and Toby Maguire's Spiderman
@@kylewestlake982 not really for Toby, I consider him a good Peter Parker but Andrew a better Spider-Man
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"Can you imagine if he grew up to be an asshole?" Well.... about that. Brightburn time?
Brightburn makes Man Of Steel look like Sesame Street.
A large part of the Superman story is that he is moral and doesn't go overboard. Also, his strength literally made them invent kryptonite to weaken him and allow humans to be a threat.
He's a walking refute of the phrase "absolute power corrupts absolutely"
@@tadcooper9733Which is why Lex Luthor says “an all powerful god can’t be all good, and an all good god cannot be all powerful”
@@n0body550 is he tho?=//
@@tadcooper9733 that makes no sense as a reply to what i said
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"Clark could've saved pa Kent!" Welcome to the club George.
That’s the point that the movie was trying to make from Clark’s pov . That Clark could’ve saved him but his father refused him to do that because his father all the way until the end that he shouldn’t risk exposing himself .
That's the whole point of the scene
It was a stupid scene. Anyone who tries to rationalize it away is in denial or an idiot.
He could have but at what point to you literally become a god? You could save everyone everywhere all the time or you can decide when to intervene. The powers and abilities Clark possess is that of a god..... I think this was the lesson old man kent was teaching Clark.
I agree with you guys, I'm just saying he's now in a long list of people who've said that.
Zod had one of the best villain catch phrases. Simple but awesome. “Kneel before Zod.”
I think he was too powerful a villain for the first movie. Even the Christopher Reeve movies saved him for the sequel. I watched this in the movies and it was awesome. Henry Cavil did a great job as Superman.
Cavil was literally the only good part of the movie lol
It had be Zod, though. Just starting off with Lex Luthor skips over so much of Superman's backstory. Whereas Zod, and the evil Kryptonians, are inextricably linked to Superman's legacy. I think this was a good decision. The trouble is following up Zod with a worthy villain, because Superman IS so powerful.
When the colonel turns to Feora and says "A good death is it's own reward" repeating her words back to her and pushes the stick down and dives into the ship, its the most badass moment in film I've seen in a decade. Gives me chills everytime.
You should definately watch the Christopher Reeves Superman movies.
Christopher Meloni is a superb actor
Gotta respect him honestly. Dude was full on about to fight a super alien being knowing damm well he was going to die.
20:43 "Ohhh. He's got _two_ dead dads."
He's a _proper_ hero. That means there has to be traumatic _loss_ in his backstory that he has risen _above._
You didn't quite get it. The council were so arrogant that they dismissed Jor-El's prediction that Krypton would be destroyed due to the constant harvesting from the planet's core. Maybe they thought they had more time but In the original movie they simply didn't believe him despite being a scientist
About the bartender, I believe it is supposed to be Bibbo Bibbowski, Superman's favorite barman in Metropolis.
And Loïs drinks Whisky because she was raised by her father, General Samuel Lane, in a military camp, as her mother died when she was very young. That's also why she is that confident around military, she just know how they think, and how far she can poke them without consequences.
Superman's original powerset was, and I quote, "Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound." Over time this was expanded to include flight, heat vision, x-ray vision, frost breath, invulnerability to almost everything (except kryptonite and magic) but in the beginning it was, as George said, human but super.
Clark was like 17 when his dad died, despite Cavill being the actor in the scene. And he was just doing was his dad told him to in a stressful situation: taking care of his mom instead of the dog to start and then not risking saving his dad at the end.
In the comics Johnathon Kent dies of a heart attack. It's a fundamental lesson for Clark that despite all his power, sometimes he won't be able to do anything to save a person. The tornado is a poor substitute because it's something Clark could have rescued his Dad from.
@@peterbrazukas7771 but the point of the tornado in this adaptation was to show that even though you have power, you must use it judiciously and for the right reasons. Neither Clark, nor the world were ready to be introduced to “Superman”. The entire point of the Snyder “trilogy” as it stands, is Clark’s arc from humble beginnings to being hated by the world, to proving himself as a good and trustworthy symbol of hope (dying in the process), to being a beacon for the Justice League to assemble and to return to save the world from Darkseid (JL2 and 3). The heart attack works to show he isn’t all powerful. The tornado works to show the reality of our world as one that judges first and vindicates later, but is still worth saving.
@@daxk9160 it was done very terribly ngl, the tornado was dumb all around im sorry, some things don't need to be changed becuz the original idea was probably better and in this case the original idea was MILES better
@@rasenganmaster101 I respect your opinion, but I disagree. The difference in approach was intentional to take the story in a slightly new direction. I understand some people want every adaptation to follow the source material 100% and that’s okay, but I also appreciated this version trying to tell an alternate tale of Superman’s mythology. At the end of the day, there are and will be countless attempts to tell this story for years and years to come, so I have no problem seeing things change here and there with each new iteration. Keeps the character fresh. Just a shame they weren’t able to finish telling Henry’s Superman story before starting all over again 🤷🏽♂️
@@daxk9160 theres no fresh argument here, u could take the direction of the story differently WITH a well written scene. That scene was dumb from the build up alone, the ONLY way the scene of his parents dying from natural causes worked is becuz he couldn't help them even if he wanted to. Proving he's not god, and humbling any chance of him thinking otherwise. This version it was about choice i get that... but the choice is a shittily glued together one that any DECENT superman writer would know clark would save him, not only save him but it be realistic as to why no one would figure he's superhuman becuz people have survived these things before, he grabs his dad, shields him, gets in the car with him, boom saved. it should NEVER be choice of oooh should i save them or not, its fuckin superman its always yes and that "choice" bullshit didn't even come around at any point in the movie, its terrible.
The problem with Clark saving his father is that above all else his father believes he has to keep Clark’s identity a secret. If it was an isolated incident where he was involved with then they could explain away a strange event. However, with the bus scene, it shows that many people around him keeps seeing unexplainable things around Clark. So he has to let Johnathan sacrifice himself.
But like... why? There's a fucking tornado going on and everyone is freaking out. Clark easily could have sped in there, saved his father, and be back before anyone would notice in the chaos. Super easy, barely an
inconvenience. The actual scene is just so contrived.
@@vsGoliath96‘woah how did Jonathan get here? IT WAS CLARK, YES IT WAS CLARK’
*cuts to them calling the government *
They wouldn’t? Clark saved a bunch of their kids on the bus from drowning and YET THEY STILL had a problem
@@vsGoliath96they'd hound Clark like asking "why didn't save so and so" he would experience what Tom Holland's Spider-Man experienced.
At 34:14 if you were to watch the clip of Clark saving that soldier falling from the helicopter in slow mo, you can see Clark rolling as he catches him so he DOESN’T kill him when grabbing him so aggressively 😊
4:37
George- "can you imagine if he grew up to be an asshole"
Yeah, the movie is called Brightburn. :D
When you say he's lucky he found these parents, that's usually the turning point in any sort of What If storyline they do with Superman. So there's an evil version who landed in New Jersey and got found by a mob couple (naturally), there's a story where he landed on a collective farm in Russia during the Cold War so he gets taken in by the state. Nearly always ends up much worse of course, cause otherwise the What If/Elseworlds wouldn't be much of a story.
Theres also the fact that americans would never write superman as a good guy outside the usa lol its just propaganda
My favourite part of the Soviet one Red Son is that he's still a nice dude trying to save people, but because he was essentially raised by Joseph Stalin his moral code is all messed up so he is the worse kind of Dictator: a well meaning one.
@@shinyagumon7015 That is one of my favourite alternative depiction´s of DC heros other is Vampire Batman in DC Elseworlds: Batman: The Vampire Trilogy
And then there's James Gunn's take, Brightburn
@@inquisitive6786 You didn't read Red Son, did you? In the story (which is written by Americans), he's still a good guy, he just has his mind twisted by Soviet propaganda until he has his eyes opened, but he's not inherently a bad person.
I'm exited to see your opinions on the Snyder DC movies. If you do decided to continue make sure to watch the Ultimate Edition of Batman vs Superman, it's only around 30-40 minutes longer then that theatrical cut and provide LS much needed exposition
Agreed. Its really just a bunch of 1 min here 30 seconds there but it makes that movie so much better
Regarding why Clarke didn't save the dog instead of the father: of course he could have, but his father asked him to keep his mother safe.That always made sense to me.
It's literally what every dad would do
Ya his dad was being a dad. He was looking after Clark, even if it meant he would die. Every parent can relate to that.
Yes. All of this. Dad told Clark to take care of his mom - Clark deep down respected his Dad and did what he was told, even down to hesitating for an instant when he could have dashed in and saved him from the tornado because Dad waved him off. This was one of the most moving parts of the movie for me. Were people who didn't understand this not lucky enough to be raised by awesome Dads? 🥺
Yeah, but he can literally move faster than human reaction time. Could have saved both parents and the dog easily.
@@vsGoliath96 It's about respecting his father.
I still say that Christopher Reeve is by far the quintessential Superman. You should give the 1978 movie a try.
The score from Hans Zimmer is incredible.
its good, but i still prefer the john Williams one
It’s terrible. It’s noise and percussion. I like the movie but the score is just…ugh. It’s so bland. It’s all Beeerrrrrmmm, dum dum dum. And that overused piano theme. That’s it. The BvS score is way better
Hans Zimmer has scored more than Hue Hefner.
Haaaaaanssss zimmer
In the Richard Donner's 70's version, Christopher Reeve did a great job making Superman and Clark Kent two different persons by working a lot on chamging the body lamguage.
Fact 1: Henry Cavill stayed among the people outside the theater during the Premiere, like anyone else, and no one recognized him.
Fact 2: I made a Remus Lupin cosplay from the 5th movie with the goatee and no one recognize it. Then I took off the goatee taking only the mustache, like in the 3rd movie, Prizoner of Azkaban, and magically people started to recognize the cosplay.
So yes, taking on and off glasses may work.
Well said. People don't realize as well that it isn't about the glasses its about how Clark is not scene. About how so many of us go through this world unnoticed.
Body language doesn't change the fact that your appearance is still the same. Let's not pretend it's not a silly concept, just gotta suspend disbelief a bit.
@@gemelwalters2942 ..but the glasses change your appearance!
@@gemelwalters2942 "appereance". The word says it by itself.
There are many look alike people. Out of the proper context you could unrecognize the same person, or even changing one for another.
As said, no one recognized Henry Cavill among people outside the theater, just because you think he couldn't be him and think it's just a look alikle person. And if he's good in changing his body language, which is the 80% of our personality, it's a reinforcement.
Anyway, since in the comics they've explained that Superman has the pawer to confuse other minds on that, and the same concept could be extended on every masked people, easily recognizable by their relatives and close friends, there's nothing silly about that, but just the will to accept it as a fictional fact or not.
It's all about intent. If you don't expect to see Superman, your not looking for him. Makes it a lot easier to blend in. I mean real world example, Dolly Parton lost a Dolly Parton lookalike contest to a cross dresser. Who would expect the real Dolly to enter a lookalike contest
You guys absolutely need to do Batman V Superman. BUT, the extended cut. Also, the 4 hour Justice League is absolutely worth it!! Also, you may as well check out the first Wonder Woman film, also.
And Shazam, a really fun and underrated DC movie.
yes, listen to or actually read this person and react to the DC universe. It is a little fractured but start with Bryan's list and go from there. You will not regret it.
@@jculver1674 yes, they need to do Shazam!
Don't forget other great films, like Caligula, The Room, and Rise of Skywalker, such awesome movies lmfao
@@micfail2 😂🤣😂
Zapp Brannigan: "If that's the mothership, what did WE destroy?"
Kiff Croaker: "The Hubbel Telescope."
I'm certain someone else has mentioned this, but when John Byrne took over writing Superman comics, he had the same issue with the strength, so he decided that it and his invulnerability are partially telekinetic, keeping things he lifts from breaking and making his costume as tough as he is
I love this movie. It's not perfect, but it's pretty great. The Krypton stuff is fantastic, Henry is great as Superman, and Zod is actually scary.
This movie is also one of only two in which I actually LIKED Russell Crowe's performance (the other of course was "Gladiator"). lol
Clark's powers grow over time. He's quite fast. He's not fast enough to save his Dad in that moment and have none of the dozens of people staring at them see it. He could've saved the Dog.... then when that car lands on him and he pushes it off like a fallen leaf on his shoulder, his secret is again revealed. Thats why his Dad sent him off with his Mom in the first place, he knows Clark will blow his secret.
Ultimately its not about whether he COULD have, the point is his Father refuses to risk it, because he's convinced his son being revealed at that moment would have catastrophic consequences.
Pretty excited for Sir Cavil’s Warhammer 40000 adaptation. Thanks guys, this is one of my favourite Superman films. For the Emperor!
George:"could you imagine if he grew up to be an asshole?"
Someone has imagined that. In fact, they made a movie about it a few years ago. It's called "Brightburn"
This movie has some of the most spectacular action sequences on film. They have this weight to them that makes them feel real as opposed to purely fantastical, haven’t seen this in any other movie of this nature.
I also really love the serious tone and sort of realistic approach of the movie. The collateral damage and casualties for example, are meant to showcase what would happen in real life if beings as powerful as kryptonians would battle in our world.
Glad that Simone was able to pick up that General Zod was simply following his genetic programming, ensuring the survival of his race, no matter the means. He couldn’t do it any other way, he didn’t really have a choice. Very compelling characterization if you ask me.
Thanks for the reaction guys.
Agreed.
Maybe Clark could have saved his Dad without giving away his identity, but it’s a big maybe. We know that Superman has super speed, but it’s not shown anywhere in the movie at that point. Why would we assume he has that power or knows about that power yet. Jonathan Kent’s priority is to protect his son and Clark chooses to trust his dad in an emergency situation. There is absolutely nothing implausible about the situation.
He hadn't really developed mastery over his powers at this point - strength and invulnerability were innate, but his senses and other powers like flight and speed he had to learn. At the time his dad died, he wouldn't have been skilled enough to save him on the sly. He would have had to exposed himself.
I love how they seem to show ‘how’ he can fly through his physical performance, especially when he first tries it. It’s almost like he’s able to exert force against the atmosphere and essentially push his body against or pull himself through the air, like a snake slithers itself through water, it’s a nice little detail that’s never really been done with Superman on screen before to show an actual way he can do something like that
Yeh the tornado death kinda bothered me too, in the Reeves film it was a heart attack - it's an important lesson fo Clark, that he is very powerful, but not ALL powerful, there's sometimes lives you can't save, but you should always try your best to save as many as possible. But you know, it's Zach Snyder, a heart attack wouldn't involve any special effects lmao
That thumbnail has caused an existential crisis within me. I've been staring for hours 😂
Simone - In answer to your question about Clark's dad, the original story was that he died of a heart attack. This is the only version of the story that has the Dad pass away in this manner.
In the very original version, we never found out how Jonathan and Martha Kent died. Origins of superheroes in the Golden Age were not fleshed out at all. In Superman #1, the entire origin is given two pages. The Kents appear in three panels and then we have another panel with Clark looking at their tombstones.
The thing I really liked about this film is it realistically depicts what would happen if god-like beings fought one another. The destruction would be epic.
You can find some clipped videos where people have put this and BvS against the old cartoons from the 90's...you can find scene for scene comparisons all over...but it hits differently when it looks real.
Too bad it had to come at the cost of actually writing a decent Superman 😕
There's a movie called Brightburn which is basically Superman, but he's evil. The cartoon show Invincible also gives a good idea as to what would happen if Superman was actually against the rest of the Justice League.
Invincible is more like, "What if Superman's father was Zod?"
The other thing you should know about Superman is that he was co-created by a Canadian, Joe Shuster, and The Daily Planet was inspired by the Toronto Globe (now the Globe and Mail).
I didn't know the Planet(first named the Daily Star) was based on the Globe
@@bemasaberwyn55 Looks like I have it wrong. According to Wikipedia (so it HAS to be right😋) It WAS originally named the Daily Star and was based on the old Toronto Star building, home of the Toronto Star, then called The Daily Star, where Joe Shuster was a newsboy. Right city, wrong paper. It also says that Metropolis was originally inspired by Toronto but has come to serve as an analogue to New York City.
Probably the best example of the Clarke Kent/Superman "separation" is with Christopher Reeves Superman.
It's still hard to believe people are fooled, but as Clarke he pulls his shoulders in, hunches a little, tends to be clumsy and speaks in a more hesitant and less confident manner...
Plus the glasses.
I love Zod's line "Where did you grow up, on a *FARM*?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
When you ask about Jonathan and the original history, originally Supes parents had died right after graduation. Then there were the movies where only Pa died. Then the post-Crisis comics where they were both alive... then 100 different continuity reboots.
Lois and Clark ("The New Adventures of Superman" in the UK) with Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher has both Ma and Pa Kent alive, at least in the early seasons. I lost track of it later on, so I'd possible that one of both of them could have died during or between later seasons (although given the general tone, I imagine that would only have happened if the actor in question died).
@@malcolmrowe9003 at that time, his parents were alive in the comics, and many years after
Fun facts , Superman is at least half Canadian as the co-creator Shuster was Canadian. In the original comic Metropolis was modeled after Toronto and the Daily Planet was the Toronto Star
In the comics, Superman’s eyes are so blue that they are almost hypnotic. It’s often the first thing people notice about him. When he puts on Clark’s glasses, they dull the effect. Plus, he changes his body language and so on.
@Eric Smith pretty sure that's only in Birthright from around 2006
@@RepubliconCelebrityPresidents I think it might also be in Earth One but I haven't read it in a while.
@Hear vIrTuE SiGnAl turn & find the worst it is indeed from the Birthright comic, not sure if any comment was made on his eyes besides that comic.
It was one of Snyder's big inspos for this film, too bad it was a less than mediocre result. Great looking film though!
The scene at the bar was filmed on Vancouver Island at an old highway bar called (The Cassidy ) drank there once or twice before it closed about 20 years ago and before you start it was abandoned when they filmed there.
His dad symbolized the good nature humans have to save and protect. That’s why his dad ordered him to ensure the people got to safety (Superman protects) while his father risked his life helping anyone he could find. Then he sacrificed him self because he didn’t want Clark to expose him self because he meant that much to him. Permanently teaching Clark the value of humans and why he should protect them at all cost.
Pretty much the only thing that bothered me about this movie is toward the end when Supes was trying to keep Zod from laser-eyeing that family in the train station. He was preventing Zod's head from moving, but that doesn't keep a person's eyes from moving. Zod could have just side-eyed them into dust.
Zod wanted Kal to kill him, just erasing the family would have taken away the need for Kal to make the decision. Kal killed Zod to stop the death of the family, (and the rest of humanity.)
Heat vision is too pwoerful in this, eyes need to be aligned.
glad to know you focused on the important things.
And Clark kills Zod by...turning is head towards the family. Which is never seen again.
Clark absolutely could have saved Pa Kent. That's one of the big points of contention with this film. In the comics, he's usually alive long enough to see Clark become Superman.
That’s the point that the filmmaker was making from Clark’s point of view
Not without people seeing him do it. Pa Kent's whole thesis was that the world wasn't yet ready for a Superman, and that in order for them to accept him he would need to do something spectacular in entering it, like, say, saving an entire city from a genocidal maniac. Why do people not understand this very simple plot beat?
In my mind, they’ve never satisfactorily explained why his real parents didn’t just go with him to Earth when Krypton exploded.
@@nathancollins1715 True. If there wouldn't have been the school bus scene before. They could've just said it was a miracle.
He died when superman was a teenager/young adult in the smallville tv show too.
You'll enjoy this film. Even though I grew up with Christopher Reeve, I really love this movie 👍❤
the only reason Supes was given the ability to fly was when they started to animate him and the animators found it much easier to draw flying then jumping.
To what Simone said, he literally does have super lung capacity xD
It's explained in the comics that that's how Kryptonians "breathe" in space.
I believe Superman started flying with the really old Max Fleischer animated cartoons. They had him jumping all the time, but it got annoying for the animators to have him constantly falling and needing something to land on to jump off of again to become airborne.
And I think the laser eyes thing. I think he gets his energy or powers from the earth’s sun so that is why he can shoot lasers out of his eyes. Did he always have that in the comics?
@@Serenity113 No. He's gained new powers over the decades depending on the writers. Originally, it was basically just super strength and invulnerability. Such as he couldn't fly, but could only jump long distances. A lot of cues were taken from the original "John Carter" novel. Laser eyes came later.
In actual fact Ron the earliest Comics had him leaping over tall buildings but it wasn't until the original radio program which also introduced characters such as Perry white, things like the Daily Planet(which had been the Daily Star) and of course Kryptonite we're all introduced their as well as his ability to fly.
@@bemasaberwyn55 Kryptonite was just an excuse to let the radio actor go on vacation or something like that. It was a way to weaken him so they could get another person to make grunting noises. I think that was the story.
Yes he is shown touching down between jumps (like the Hulk) in the first couple of episodes but then simply flies for the rest of the series.
As far as his early abilities, you were right. Leap tall buildings in a single bound, more powerful than a locomotive, faster than a speeding bullet. The original creators, Seigel and Shuster, were very interested in making an immigrant from the stars type hero, and drew somewhat on biblical heroic archetypes - Samson's strength and power being primary, Elijah outpacing a chariot on foot, and so on. Through the rest of the gold and silver age of comics his powerset would grow immensely to feature all kinds of wacky nonsense. His alien origins were a license for writers to have him solve problems by manifesting a previously undisclosed talent for hypnosis, or to pull a shrink ray out of his pocket. Early comics revelled in this kind of silliness; only as time went by, and particularly as Superheroes started cohering into universes with counterparts for them to fight and team up with, did writers start even attempting to codify what Superman can, and more importantly can't do.
Interestingly, the original Superman property is going into Public Domain soon - but ONLY the original leaping, running, strong Superman that exists in Action Comics #1 and its immediate run. It will be interesting seeing what people do with a public property of Superman who is the 'original' superman but very much unlike the totality of the heat-vision having, kryptonite fearing, batman best friending one we know today.
31:31 it’s actually a mixture of the two, Superman can survive without food, air, etc and live off of pure sunlight but he also has crazy lung capacity which is why he has freeze breath so he could hold his breath for a long time if he wanted
About his dad dying, Superman's embodiment was being honorable and knowing that his dad was convinced about his belief that the world wasn't ready for him: I see it in the way that he always knew that he could save his dad in whichever way possible whether doing it like a normal guy would or not, rather he respected his dad's conviction. That's always what made Superman good (or bad) inherently because he did not lie and he respected people who had respect for themselves and their word.
Simone, in Smallville they show Clarks parents on earth years before they send Clark there. they interact with the Kent's and determine them good people so that's why they sent Clark there
My favorite comicbook movie of all time.
Great cast, great story, no stupid gimmicks or slapstick humor, and corny one-liners.
An actual movie that takes the character and its source material seriously.
Just a good effing Superman movie, with some of the best fight scenes I've seen since the Matrix.
Did you guys catch the Christopher Reeves homage when he was fighting the gravity machine? I saw it in the theaters😢. Gave goose bumps. RIP.
Really need to watch the 1978 superman after this to see how much differently they characterized superman and clark, because the one thing this superman gets wrong is that superman always does the right thing at any cost. But in this version, superman has doubt if saving people is the right thing to do.
Two dad's and they're both Robin Hood. Born to be a hero.
This is possibly my favourite comic book film ever. I respect how much George understood the nuances. Clark not being a soldier, fighting in the towns/city's consequences. I'm sure people have already commented, but Jonathan Kent originally dies from a Heart attack, before Clark goes off into the arctic to create his fortress of solitude. Definitely watch BvS Ultimate Edition and Snyder's JL. Then go watch the original superman 1 and 2. They are faithful to the original back story/comics.
"City is ruined...Even Batman..." Haha. . Perfect. People fail to realize that even though Superman drew Zod to Earth, he still destroyed the world engine and saved all of humanity.
There are some interesting concepts in some versions of Superman where he can do things like manipulating his zygomatic muscles to actually look different as Clark Kent. But the simplest explanation for why people don't recognize him is that he's Superman. He doesn't wear a mask or conceal his identity. People are not looking for an alter ego
A darker and more serious take on the Man Of Steel. Im going to miss Henry Cavill as SUPERMAN. He was the GOAT of the DCEU.
Hope you do Batman V Superman Ultimate Edition and Zack Snyders Justice League. Those character arcs are great to watch.
Great reaction video, you both asked good questions about the mythos of Superman and the comics. A couple of small things to hopefully help answer your questions:
The original version of Superman was still an alien from Krypton. Sent to earth as a baby, his parents adopted him out of an orphanage they took him to when he started tearing up the place with his super baby strength. After his parents (natural) deaths, he became Superman. His powers were super strength, invulnerability (nothing less than a bursting shell could break his skin), and the ability to leap 1/8 of a mile. Super vision soon came along as well.
In the 60's and 70's Superman became much more super powered with the ability to break lightspeed and travel through time, to easily travel unprotected through space, and his various vision powers, extreme strength, etc. His adoptive father and mother were both alive and running a store in Smallville, Kansas. This version of Superman began his adventures as a boy and was well known as Superboy before becoming an adult.
In the 80s, the character was de-powered to a degree to once again be super strong, have heat vision and a degree of invulnerability. His powers developed around puberty, so he wasn't Superboy anymore, and his parents were both still alive and working their farm in Kansas. He could only survive in space as long as he could hold his breath, though the vacuum of space itself wouldn't hurt him. This is the version of Superman from the "Death of Superman" storyline in the early 90s.
Through all the versions of Superman, Lois Lane is his love interest and somehow does not realize Clark Kent is Superman until she's told this by Superman himself. He has a decent sized supporting cast.
It'd be great to see you guys watch the original Christopher Reeve Superman and Superman II, which feature Zod, and Superman's origin. Reeve played both Kent and Superman well, making the transition between the two believable.
When you do watch Batman V Superman, make sure to watch the Extended version. Certain plot points are nearly nonsensical in the theatrical release, and the restored footage makes a couple of things make more sense. Keep doing a great job like you have been, it's so much fun to watch you two react!
"How precise are those laser eyes?" One time, Superman temporarily depowered a psychic enemy by focusing the lasers through the enemy's eyes into the specific part of the brain the guy got his powers from, effectively giving the guy a super lobotomy.
I didn't think Shannon was so big either, but he's 6' 3"
If you do Batman vs Superman, I recommend the Ultimate Edition because it flows better and has much better continuity. And definitely Zack Snyder's Justice League, not the theatrical cut.
You're a trooper for getting through this while still recovering George. I would love if you guys reacted to the full 4 hour cut of Justice League. 🙏 Us fans of Zack's original vison waited years for it, almost thinking it would never be released, and it's a completely different movie than from the theater release. Since it's done in chapters it will be much easier to react to.
I agree,the Snyder cut is brilliant & would definitely watch a reaction video of you guys,& tbh the film absolutely doesn’t feel like a 4 hour film,it flies by!
@@daveparnell3330 Snyder isn’t brilliant it’s just a better version of a shit film lol
Believe it or not, Henry stood in front of a poster of the movie only wearing a pair of glasses and nobody recognized him. The glasses work!
Yeah. In Times Square, NYC. Noone looks at people around them.
They do a great bit about the glasses disguise in the comedy superhero movie “Mystery Men”. Think you guys would really enjoy that flick.
I loved the questions you asked about Superman and batman's positions in society, and especially the point on Luthor VS Superman being the battle of man VS god. Those are exactly the things that get addressed in BvS. Just make sure you watch the ultimate edition.
I feel BvS addresses things no other Superhero movie addresses.
@@reesebn38 I totally agree. These are *not* the marvel films, and so much stronger for standing out as their own thing. I think the themes Zac Snyder plays with are fantastic, and his trilogy is my favorite superhero trilogy ever. And don't get me wrong, I love the marvel films and Civil War, infinity and endgame would be my second favorite trilogy.
@@S0ldeed Same here it's my favorite too.
More about Superman for Simone and George: He gets stronger and regenerates when he flies towards earth's sun. But under a red sun, like on Krypton, he's strong as an average human. As far as his superpowers, he has: flight, super-human strength, cold breath, heat vision, he can see through solid objects, super-human speed, and can fly at unbelievable speed.
Even under a red sun he's not average though. He's superior to all other Kryptonians due to being of natural birth and Jor El tweaking his genetics in utero. Kal is the ultimate Kryptonian which is why he can go toe to toe with the genetically modified Nam Ek. Nam Ek was experimented on to basically make him Krypton's Captain America and Kal not only matched him, but beat him. Also, his powers are a little more refined. He doesn't have super human strength, he has Super Strength, even super humans can't match him. Freeze Breath is caused by his massive lung capacity and the ability to compress the air inside them to Absolute Zero. Super Breath can surpass any wind speed ever recorded on Earth. His Heat Vision can go hotter than the sun and can be as precise as a surgeons scalpel or as broad as his field of vision. His vision powers don't stop there though, he can focus down to the microscopic level or outward to see outside the galaxy itself. (he can also see THROUGH dimensions and time, but we won't go into those powers) and can see in any spectrum he chooses to. He is also a better shot than anybody with any type of projectile weapon or throwing weapon. On Lois & Clark, he was showing up a guy flirting with Lois by scoring just slightly better than the guy at darts with his LEFT HAND, and then due to annoyance, he switched to his right hand and without looking, he split the guy's dart which was in the Bull's Eye like Robin Hood. His X-Ray vision can see through anything except lead. He doesn't have super human speed, he has Super Speed there is a difference. He's the fourth fastest being in DC, following Wally West Flash, Barry Allen Flash and Reverse Flash, and now he's doesn't even recognize time or distance so he may have surpassed the Flashes entirely. His flight speed is immeasurable and his combat speed is equal to his flight speed. On top of all his physical capabilities, he's the smartest being on Earth, easily out-classing super smart humans like Lex Luthor and Bruce Wayne (though many don't realize just how intelligent Clark really is because he hides it almost as much as he hides his true identity and he just isn't interested in being the foremost expert on every topic in the world..) Superman was the son of a genius, and Jor El was a genius on a planet with an 8th Level society, making him essentially a 9th Level intellect or close to it. Kal is also at base a 9th Level Intellect, but with his yellow sun enhancements, he is more like an 10th or 11th Level Intellect. He routinely takes Jor El's inventions and both completes them and greatly improves them. Brainiac is the only known 13th Level Intellect, even though Lex Luthor claims to be one. Kal is able to read human genetic code and memorize individual people. He has an eidetic memory which allows him to learn anything once and with Kryptonian muscles not tiring, he can become an expert martial artist after learning the moves once and he never gets rusty. He can pick out one heartbeat out of the entire population while floating in orbit. He can listen to an ant crawling across a jungle floor from space. He has noted in his thoughts that he can make all of Batman's gadgets 100% more effective but won't make the offer because Bruce would take it as an insult. Kal has noted that he can solve all the world's problems with Kryptonian Technology but will not do so as it is not his place to. He will inspire and lead, but not be the answer.
As of the events of the Lazarus Planet, Supes now possesses the Power of Invincibility while Supergirl has the Power of Strength. He was getting OP before, but now he literally cannot be beaten and with him no longer recognizing weight, distance, time, speed, he's one step below actual godhood.
Batman V Superman is one of my favourite movies for these two characters. The motivation for the characters is really good.
Only parents can fully understand why pa Kent did what he did. The world wasn't ready for an alien to be this powerful and he wasn't ready either. It would've destroyed Clark completely. You will see how the world "accepts" him in BvS. There are consequences to his actions in man of Steel.
Pretty much any criticisms of this movie are 100% fair and justified. I have no idea how this won a poll, it is genuinely one of the most dull and drab "superhero" movies ever.
The follow up is somehow both less dull and more boring, and the Zach Snyder alt-cut is a mission statement on how much he hates editors and desperately needs them.
The man makes 1.5 good movies and he somehow gets control of the entire DC universe for a decade. It's freaking weird.