Kansei drift is actually just a scandinavian flick / inertia drift / pendulum turn. What you showed in the video is lift off oversteer :) Atleast in my opinion and thats also the way it is in initial d since you showed the clip when introducing the technique.
sometimes i reminded of my friend's joke: "drift is not the fastest way on the touge, but at least it gives you easy win since your opponent cannot see the road properly"
NO NO.. I am not ready for all this.. I'm still in Kindergarten on drifting.. I'll watch what you big kids do .. maybe one day I'll watch again to see if I can handle it! Great post my friend! BTW old subscriber here.. for some reason I have did not 'ring the bell' until today.. but now I'm all good! DMAX motion sim ch
Started drifting in AC about a year ago and found every 'drifting tips' guide just ran through stuff like 'make your rear wheels lose traction and you will 'drift' through a corner; have fun, that's all folks!'. So it's good to see some actual tips that I hadn't already heard. Personally think left-foot braking and using he brake to manage drifts is the single most important technique that I've learned in the last six months. I wasn't taught it, but after a while you just notice that certain things work, and you start using them. I use left foot braking almost constantly when drifting touges and if you want to reverse entry some horrible tight turn you can use lfbing to get up to high speed on a straight and brake hard into the hairpin without touching the handbrake or using much weight transferal at all. And using it combined with handbrake is crucial to me since I'm still at the stage where I can't perfectly judge when to engage handbrake with tight turns at high speed. The one thing I have most trouble with though is long, shallow-cornered, high speed drifts, especially ones where the angle of the corner changes as you're drifting. Think of Akina Lake's first turn, or some of the long turns on Kunos's Highland drift course. I naturally flick the back end out quite severely, which means I lose speed. But if I try to to do it differently, and catch the drift at a shallower angle, I almost always end up understeering and straightening up. It's driving me a bit nuts because I'm decent-ish on short courses but when it comes to long, sweeping, shallow drifts I'm twitchy and hopeless. Any tips(useful ones, not 'give up' or 'git gud') from drifters who're good at that kind of thing would be appreciated. And again to That Sim Racing Bloke; excellent vid, I'm off to try some of these out.
@@hvitekrist7778 Nope, nothing aside from the answer you least want to hear: practise. There are some things I notice that I do when drifting these really long, shallow angles, but they're pretty obvious: - try and leave room in the rev band, so that you can accelerate and oversteer-correct your drift if you start to understeer wide. - left foot brake to tuck in the back end - be in high gears obv. I'm better than I was, but I still find tracks like LAC and Pacific Canyon, Akina Lake, etc. tricky because the speeds you reach are so huge and bumps in the road are worse because of that. My Fanatec shudders the room when I'm running Pacific Coast in a 1300hp VDC Silvia. And if your back end swings out too fast and you're in third/fourth gear you just can't catch it because your engine will stall when you try. Touges are my forte really. The big, long, fast tracks are still beyond me in terms of consistently performing well on them. I can manage Usui Pass(the big looped touge by Euro and Kozzren, might have the name wrong) but that has very wide roads so it's fairly simple. Any tips of your own?
@@thesprawl2361 I wouldn't be giving any fruitful tips as I am more or less a beginner. However, mostly from trial and error, I did manage to take advantage of some correction techniques when I'm going too close to the inside such as clutching to decrease angle and handbrake a bit to slide outwards. Not sure if this is the "correct" technique though
@@hvitekrist7778 ...You do what feels right. You hear a lot of people talking like they're experts about drifting online. But 99% of them are just bluffing overconfident types. Stick with your instincts and just practise. It really is tough at the beginning though, I feel for you. I'd say I'm just past that point and now I can actually enjoy drifting rather than spend most of the time trying to three point turn out of narrow touge lanes that I've ended up stopped sideways at, facing a metal rail, constantly shuffling back and forwards to get out of the position, like Austin Powers in that little car in Dr Evil's lair. It's so dispiriting at first. But hang in there.
Nice tutorial man! Really helpful explanation of left foot braking which is something I struggle with and I never considered using dirt drops tactically.. usually if I dirt drop it means I went too wide 😁
Assoluto player. Phone sim. Watch videos 2x a week at least. Been a min since I learned something from them. Mostly jus brushing over stuff. Your video provided me w new techniques to try. TY for exploring the drift iceberg
This was great video explaining all of these techniques, I was surprised I already knew how to do some of them once they were explained, also good to know that at 1:22 that this damages the car, never knew.
@@TSRB thanks, bruv. I'm American btw. 43 yrs old. Been a junglist since 96 and I stayed that way through the dark years when it wasn't cool. You know, till dubstep made bass music popular again. But I can tell by your selections that you have a similar background. Oh yeah. Your drivings not too bad either. 😜
at manji, its worth mentioning also sanpatsu or what ever its called nowadays.. a tri motion drift; where you supposably link a straight between two corners with a double manji, then enter a corner.. Like Oi Futo style - the port in tokyo bay, which has some super wide roads meant for trucks mostly.. Its like trick shot, if you can do in in tri motion and still enter the last turn. Theres an ac track also and video somewhere on how to XD ...ur welcome
good video and explaination, however the Inertia drift you showed was a Lift Off oversteer (or snap oversteer in extreme cases). its my main way to get into a drift when driving an MR2 in AC. an inertia drift is basicallly just flicking your car from one side to the other in a snappy motion (by using the inertia of the lever bla bla bla physics stuff bla bla)
I started drifting by watching ur begginer tutorial and after 200hrs i found this tutorial but found myself already using all the technics from the vid that i found through trial and error
I'm pretty new on this sim drift world, but its really know to see that some of the advanced techniques are part of a natural learning curve, but you simply didn't know.
I only started 6 months ago, I only got decent at this about a month ago, and I just found your beginner video yesterday. Why is this important? I was using half of this already and didn't expect it to be advanced...
I think all the begginers should use the old BMW M3 e30, till they get all those tricks done flawlessly. Is just an opinion of mine, somd people might be different. But the e30 it's so balanced and has such great maneuverability, with just enough power to make the perfect car for beginners. The AE86 might be a bit hard for some folks as you don't have the power flexibility.
I agree with you Although when i started to learn how to drift i found the ae86 easyer to control and the e30 was like its got a mind of its own. But thats just me being weird
its true. newer m3s tend to screw with you with certain settings, like no diff or cannot set rear suspension right.. the power looks good on those newer but for learning its only the e30. 86 has just enough power and it proves difficult even if you know what youre doing. Not completely new here but yeah.. those were my experiences. Just decide a track with an e30 for start and keep grinding. When you get bored, maybe switch to some good phisics car mods like WDT or something realistic and youre golden. Took me a couple of days straight to get it down on gran turismo 6 back in the days.. then again a few days on sport. then again on ac. but now.. its like riding a bike. turn right to go left - logical. :D
dont know why but when i try to drift in this game the rear wheels just re-gain traction even if i keep my foot planted. i have traction/stability control off, could just be my lack of skill tho
really for untitled me and my guys call it crabbing. Crab walking on the other hand is when you are basically doing a burnout sideways and moving at a really slow speed. some call the untitled technique left foot braking and sometimes also crabbing as an effect
i always thought of crab walking like if you just started to drift on something like a controler or your car is just to grippy and u need to fight it to keep it in drift and in the same direction; kind of like trying to animate / walking thru a corner.. Its hard to put in words. Good explanation. I guess thats fish tailing - not a technique but just not that pleasant to watch...
Huh, the "Kansei" method here is different from your actual video on Inertia Drift, it's literally just letting off the gas at high speed, no flick or anything.
Just gonna have to ask, i'm not very experienced but i can somewhat hold a drift, but often my front tires suddenly gain so much grip i lose controll most of the time from suddenly turning with the steering, do you know what i should do to avoid that?
@@fadhilramadhan6765 in content manager in controls settings just unasign the throttle and there should also be a forced throttle thing and you have to select then just set the lag up and down how you want it.
The craziest thing for the untitled drift technique is that I already had it down and did it naturally when I first started drifting.. I’m proud of myself lol
@@AmnesiaForever controller is actually a lot worse than mouse steering. Im in a touge team and im just as fast with mouse and keyboard as people with a wheel. I dont undestand why you are so mean and recommending something that is 10x worse to use even though you probably never tried mouse steering
@@patrykrog8121 AC allows mouse steering? seems I overlooked this. Finally a good reason to use more than 1.2k DPI on my mouse. Still, unless Nipz rebinds the brake key onto any other key his other hand can easily reach, he's screwed. I still agree on the controller part if only because keyboard switches are like bool variables (either it's pressed or it's not) whilst controller triggers these days give float values between 0 and 1 (0.5 for 50% pressed trigger for example). Considering how picky this game is with the handling, if you lack a steering wheel a controller is still the better option because some of these drift techniques require a constant light press of the brakes while you mash the throttle, and if you try doing that on the keyboard, the brakes will always be pressed 100% of the way.
@@OfficialDJSoru well mouse steering is still a whole lot better and you can actually brake and throttle at the same time but this gets difficult. The only part that is hard on keyboard is no clutch and thats the reason why i still prefer lfs for drifting. Also the game limits the throttle when you are in a drift with mouse steering for some reason but you can get around this in content manager and then its good for drifting. I actually mostly do the touges and i get good times and im about the same speed as people with wheels if not faster. The only time i loose time is in some fast corners that then turn in really sharp but i found a way to stay fast and that is to initiate a drift and let that slow you down. Its not easy with keyboard but i can assure you its 10x better than using a controller
Kansei drift is actually just a scandinavian flick / inertia drift / pendulum turn. What you showed in the video is lift off oversteer :) Atleast in my opinion and thats also the way it is in initial d since you showed the clip when introducing the technique.
You are right mate its a lift off drift, awesome video tho
I developed a terrible habit of depending on inertia drift I can’t even slide from a clutch kick alone half the time
I actually never knew there was lift off oversteer
You’re underrated!!!
Mhm
Thank you! :)
I hope people behind me in the touge don't have smoke generation set to max
This isn't even max, I think it's about half 😂
sometimes i reminded of my friend's joke: "drift is not the fastest way on the touge, but at least it gives you easy win since your opponent cannot see the road properly"
Same lool
@@XyzyX154 🤣🤣
@@XyzyX154 Lmao
I've sent this video to my friend who is new into sim racing/drifting and it will really help him so thank you for making this
Even as a seasoned sim drifter getting the basics delivered this swiftly and thoroughly is really helpful.
NO NO.. I am not ready for all this.. I'm still in Kindergarten on drifting.. I'll watch what you big kids do .. maybe one day I'll watch again to see if I can handle it! Great post my friend! BTW old subscriber here.. for some reason I have did not 'ring the bell' until today.. but now I'm all good! DMAX motion sim ch
Cheers DMAX! :)
Started drifting in AC about a year ago and found every 'drifting tips' guide just ran through stuff like 'make your rear wheels lose traction and you will 'drift' through a corner; have fun, that's all folks!'. So it's good to see some actual tips that I hadn't already heard.
Personally think left-foot braking and using he brake to manage drifts is the single most important technique that I've learned in the last six months. I wasn't taught it, but after a while you just notice that certain things work, and you start using them. I use left foot braking almost constantly when drifting touges and if you want to reverse entry some horrible tight turn you can use lfbing to get up to high speed on a straight and brake hard into the hairpin without touching the handbrake or using much weight transferal at all. And using it combined with handbrake is crucial to me since I'm still at the stage where I can't perfectly judge when to engage handbrake with tight turns at high speed.
The one thing I have most trouble with though is long, shallow-cornered, high speed drifts, especially ones where the angle of the corner changes as you're drifting. Think of Akina Lake's first turn, or some of the long turns on Kunos's Highland drift course. I naturally flick the back end out quite severely, which means I lose speed. But if I try to to do it differently, and catch the drift at a shallower angle, I almost always end up understeering and straightening up. It's driving me a bit nuts because I'm decent-ish on short courses but when it comes to long, sweeping, shallow drifts I'm twitchy and hopeless.
Any tips(useful ones, not 'give up' or 'git gud') from drifters who're good at that kind of thing would be appreciated. And again to That Sim Racing Bloke; excellent vid, I'm off to try some of these out.
exact same problem here, have you found any tips my man?
@@hvitekrist7778 Nope, nothing aside from the answer you least want to hear: practise.
There are some things I notice that I do when drifting these really long, shallow angles, but they're pretty obvious:
- try and leave room in the rev band, so that you can accelerate and oversteer-correct your drift if you start to understeer wide.
- left foot brake to tuck in the back end
- be in high gears obv.
I'm better than I was, but I still find tracks like LAC and Pacific Canyon, Akina Lake, etc. tricky because the speeds you reach are so huge and bumps in the road are worse because of that. My Fanatec shudders the room when I'm running Pacific Coast in a 1300hp VDC Silvia. And if your back end swings out too fast and you're in third/fourth gear you just can't catch it because your engine will stall when you try.
Touges are my forte really. The big, long, fast tracks are still beyond me in terms of consistently performing well on them. I can manage Usui Pass(the big looped touge by Euro and Kozzren, might have the name wrong) but that has very wide roads so it's fairly simple.
Any tips of your own?
@@thesprawl2361 I wouldn't be giving any fruitful tips as I am more or less a beginner. However, mostly from trial and error, I did manage to take advantage of some correction techniques when I'm going too close to the inside such as clutching to decrease angle and handbrake a bit to slide outwards. Not sure if this is the "correct" technique though
@@hvitekrist7778 I think 'correct technique' is just what works.
@@hvitekrist7778 ...You do what feels right. You hear a lot of people talking like they're experts about drifting online. But 99% of them are just bluffing overconfident types. Stick with your instincts and just practise.
It really is tough at the beginning though, I feel for you. I'd say I'm just past that point and now I can actually enjoy drifting rather than spend most of the time trying to three point turn out of narrow touge lanes that I've ended up stopped sideways at, facing a metal rail, constantly shuffling back and forwards to get out of the position, like Austin Powers in that little car in Dr Evil's lair. It's so dispiriting at first. But hang in there.
Nice tutorial man! Really helpful explanation of left foot braking which is something I struggle with and I never considered using dirt drops tactically.. usually if I dirt drop it means I went too wide 😁
Rally techniques
Assoluto player. Phone sim.
Watch videos 2x a week at least. Been a min since I learned something from them. Mostly jus brushing over stuff. Your video provided me w new techniques to try. TY for exploring the drift iceberg
This was great video explaining all of these techniques, I was surprised I already knew how to do some of them once they were explained, also good to know that at 1:22 that this damages the car, never knew.
Love your music selections, man. Keep it Jungle
Full playlist here if you want it xd ua-cam.com/video/nJ7rwEYnLPc/v-deo.html
@@TSRB thanks, bruv. I'm American btw. 43 yrs old. Been a junglist since 96 and I stayed that way through the dark years when it wasn't cool. You know, till dubstep made bass music popular again. But I can tell by your selections that you have a similar background. Oh yeah. Your drivings not too bad either. 😜
You’re so underrated this is the most helpful tutorial ever because you don’t use modded cars and you really drift irl it’s the best
at manji, its worth mentioning also sanpatsu or what ever its called nowadays.. a tri motion drift; where you supposably link a straight between two corners with a double manji, then enter a corner.. Like Oi Futo style - the port in tokyo bay, which has some super wide roads meant for trucks mostly.. Its like trick shot, if you can do in in tri motion and still enter the last turn. Theres an ac track also and video somewhere on how to XD ...ur welcome
This video was super helpful. Good channel dude! Can’t wait to get home and try some of the techniques you showed
I'm still terrible at drifting in AC, but your videos definitely help to get a better start into it. Thanks a lot! ^^
Uh much better audio quality!
Thanks for the videos, they helped me a lot
good video and explaination, however the Inertia drift you showed was a Lift Off oversteer (or snap oversteer in extreme cases). its my main way to get into a drift when driving an MR2 in AC. an inertia drift is basicallly just flicking your car from one side to the other in a snappy motion (by using the inertia of the lever bla bla bla physics stuff bla bla)
I started drifting by watching ur begginer tutorial and after 200hrs i found this tutorial but found myself already using all the technics from the vid that i found through trial and error
fun fact for all nfs carbon fans, you can do kansei dorifto in carbon. no, not in drift mode. no mods whatsoever.
I'm pretty new on this sim drift world, but its really know to see that some of the advanced techniques are part of a natural learning curve, but you simply didn't know.
5:32 called left foot braking
That's the action, not the affect
@@TSRB *effect
I only started 6 months ago, I only got decent at this about a month ago, and I just found your beginner video yesterday.
Why is this important? I was using half of this already and didn't expect it to be advanced...
I think all the begginers should use the old BMW M3 e30, till they get all those tricks done flawlessly. Is just an opinion of mine, somd people might be different. But the e30 it's so balanced and has such great maneuverability, with just enough power to make the perfect car for beginners. The AE86 might be a bit hard for some folks as you don't have the power flexibility.
I agree with you
Although when i started to learn how to drift i found the ae86 easyer to control and the e30 was like its got a mind of its own. But thats just me being weird
its true. newer m3s tend to screw with you with certain settings, like no diff or cannot set rear suspension right.. the power looks good on those newer but for learning its only the e30. 86 has just enough power and it proves difficult even if you know what youre doing.
Not completely new here but yeah.. those were my experiences. Just decide a track with an e30 for start and keep grinding. When you get bored, maybe switch to some good phisics car mods like WDT or something realistic and youre golden. Took me a couple of days straight to get it down on gran turismo 6 back in the days.. then again a few days on sport. then again on ac. but now.. its like riding a bike. turn right to go left - logical. :D
The dirt drop is basically when i try to drift but barely leave the track with my rear on the dirt because my initiation was shit
would love to know ur graphics settings. clean and smooth
4:13 I've heard it refered to as "brake boosting"
I’m on Xbox and for some reason I don’t need counter steer is that good or bad?
dont know why but when i try to drift in this game the rear wheels just re-gain traction even if i keep my foot planted. i have traction/stability control off, could just be my lack of skill tho
As I've learned couple weeks ago - "unknown" is the toe-heel using in actual racing.
I don't think that's what it is tbh. For this technique you put your left foot on the brake, and right on the throttle.
It’s called left foot braking
Im in the kindergarden of drift but i wanna know how to connect drifts in a short space like iroha
Apparently I'm in that 10%?
4:30 Left foot braking
where do i start drifing, i cant find anywhere that says drift or whatever. Frustratuing
really for untitled me and my guys call it crabbing. Crab walking on the other hand is when you are basically doing a burnout sideways and moving at a really slow speed. some call the untitled technique left foot braking and sometimes also crabbing as an effect
i always thought of crab walking like if you just started to drift on something like a controler or your car is just to grippy and u need to fight it to keep it in drift and in the same direction; kind of like trying to animate / walking thru a corner.. Its hard to put in words. Good explanation. I guess thats fish tailing - not a technique but just not that pleasant to watch...
Do you rev match when doing shift lock
Any wheel settings recommended for G29
how to get that tyre smoke i cant find the tutorial
Huh, the "Kansei" method here is different from your actual video on Inertia Drift, it's literally just letting off the gas at high speed, no flick or anything.
Did i need to off abs?
Just gonna have to ask,
i'm not very experienced but i can somewhat hold a drift, but often my front tires suddenly gain so much grip i lose controll most of the time from suddenly turning with the steering, do you know what i should do to avoid that?
If I understand your question correctly; more throttle!
Hmm he didn't mention side or accel off
the only thing i don't know is how you do the slip angle with no countersteer
Practice
:D
Is it even possible on keyboard with mouse 🗿
Why are you even asking that
Yes its possible because i do it. Just get content manager so you can use full throttle and not the wierd traction control you cant disable normally
@@patrykrog8121 how to disable it?
@@fadhilramadhan6765 in content manager in controls settings just unasign the throttle and there should also be a forced throttle thing and you have to select then just set the lag up and down how you want it.
Shouldve named this video, How to Drift: Ricers
What map is this
can you apply the techniques to other games
yes
Should I have understeer effects on
Depends on your wheel, but in general you shouldn't use any effects as it just muddies the useful feedback
O thanks
Left foot braking doesn't have a name?
The craziest thing for the untitled drift technique is that I already had it down and did it naturally when I first started drifting.. I’m proud of myself lol
can we drift with only keyboard and mouse ?
yes
Did you just answer yourself?
“So how do you transition?” Ask your doctor
What if you don’t have a handbrake
Bind it to a button or a flappy paddle
What car pack are you using. Bit late asking I know :D (Edit) I am retard. That is in the main game.
the unknown is just utilizing left foot braking
7months ago. 2022 in the title…
Yeah these methods only worked in 2021, can't use them anymore. Sorry for the clickbait
Whenever I try to brake drift I just understeer...
might be carrying too much speed or braking too much.
@@daslate3974 I know how to do it now, I'm not sure what I was doing wrong tho, I just suddenly started to be able to do it
I do not have any playstation or thing. I just have a keyboard only. I try much hard to drift. But thats not working. Can you help me?
Get a fucking controller
Get an Xbox controller and connect via USB, Windows instantly detect it.
@@AmnesiaForever controller is actually a lot worse than mouse steering. Im in a touge team and im just as fast with mouse and keyboard as people with a wheel. I dont undestand why you are so mean and recommending something that is 10x worse to use even though you probably never tried mouse steering
@@patrykrog8121 AC allows mouse steering? seems I overlooked this. Finally a good reason to use more than 1.2k DPI on my mouse.
Still, unless Nipz rebinds the brake key onto any other key his other hand can easily reach, he's screwed.
I still agree on the controller part if only because keyboard switches are like bool variables (either it's pressed or it's not) whilst controller triggers these days give float values between 0 and 1 (0.5 for 50% pressed trigger for example).
Considering how picky this game is with the handling, if you lack a steering wheel a controller is still the better option because some of these drift techniques require a constant light press of the brakes while you mash the throttle, and if you try doing that on the keyboard, the brakes will always be pressed 100% of the way.
@@OfficialDJSoru well mouse steering is still a whole lot better and you can actually brake and throttle at the same time but this gets difficult. The only part that is hard on keyboard is no clutch and thats the reason why i still prefer lfs for drifting. Also the game limits the throttle when you are in a drift with mouse steering for some reason but you can get around this in content manager and then its good for drifting. I actually mostly do the touges and i get good times and im about the same speed as people with wheels if not faster. The only time i loose time is in some fast corners that then turn in really sharp but i found a way to stay fast and that is to initiate a drift and let that slow you down. Its not easy with keyboard but i can assure you its 10x better than using a controller