How many miles so far and how's it holding up? Any issues? Coming from a sportbike, I'm looking to transition over and this bike seems like it could be the one.
2500 miles divided by 144 hours is an average speed of 17.36 mph. That's not very good. If by "day" you instead mean 12 hours then 2500 miles divided by 72 hours is 34.72 mph, which is also not impressive at all. I could maintain an average speed of over 60 mph even with my old 1991 Yamaha DT 125...
Hey Guys I said something wrong about the history of the Sportster. I want to correct it. I said that the Sportster was the first Harley with Over head valves. This is wrong. In 1952 the K model was released and ran till 1956. The Sportster motor was a derivative of this motor. In 1957 they modified this engine to give it the Over head valves. So that year was the first year of this K-model engine to receive the OHV system. The first Harley to have OHVs was the Knuckle head. Sorry for the error! Edit: Hey Guys, I'm a bone head. At 4:28 I show a Sportster S equipped with Mid-Controls not Forward Controls. In the text I say it's forward controls. My BAD! The mid-controls are offered as a Parts & Accessories option.
Actually Matt, the first time Harley-Davidson engineers incorporated overhead-valves into a V-twin motor was WAY back in 1915 (most books incorrectly say 1916) with the Eight-Valve racing engine (yes, eight valves!) The 1936 "61 OHV" model EL Knucklehead was Harley-Davidson's first production OHV V-twin. Using the Eight-Valve Harley-Davidson's so-called "Wrecking Crew" blew Indian off the racetrack. Ironically, I believe your modern competitor Polaris-Indian has adopted the Wrecking Crew name--possibly even trademarking it.
I am +60 y.o, has driven mostly big twins but ended my days as a Harley driver and the air-cooled engines with a 1990 Sportster and a souped up 2010 Iron Black Custom. Very fun bike. I did it the other way around so to speak and now they are both sold too and I have bought/built me a mobile home instead (retired). I loved my Iron and now I am really ambivalent when talking about the Sportster S . One part of me is just shouting "He** YES!" and the other part shouts equally high, "He** NO!". :) If it really came down to it, I would very much like to give it a chance and I do believe the younger generation will love it right out off the blocks.
Great review Matt, appreciate the detail and honesty. Regardless if this is the bike for you or not you have to appreciate what Harley has built. If nothing else it is a rolling work of art!
If you really appreciate Harleys you wouldn't be making that comment. Harley is losing the Heritage. IMHO and I own 9 of them and love them , but the new bikes , you can have em
I was so surprised by how amazing it looks 'in person'! Stunning bike. And I love the forward controls: it's something special to differentiate it from other bikes. It gives so much personality. I know mid controls are better, but I'd definitely choose forward controls for the Harley. (And I will, if I make the decision after winter to go on the dangerous roads on 2 wheels again and buy the Sportster S.) I'm really skeptical about the engine sound now though. I don't understand how Harley could choose that V-angle and crank angle, since it makes it sound like most basic commuter inline-2 engines... I'm still going to see what I think about that when I get to test it in a few months.
I recently was in the market and while the ''official'' msrp is $15,500 I could not find one below $17,999 in my area. No one ever mentions this aspect of buying a Harley.....all the surcharges and other ''hidden'' fees you don't see until you get the buyer's order.
Great review! The Sportster S, to me, is more V-Rod-like than Sportster-like (Sportsters of old). I've owned both an old Sportster and a V-Rod so when I first saw the Sportster S in the flesh, it really did remind me of a V-Rod more than anything else. Whatever the case, I'm glad HD is modernizing its line-up with bikes like the Pan America and the Sportster S. Sure, I loved my old Sportster and I currently own a Twin Cam Road King but when I buy a new bike in the not-too-distant-future, I want a bike with the Revolution engine (probably a Pan America Special). This is progress...the HD faithful should embrace it because that's life. We don't use landline telephones or tube-type televisions any longer so we should also accept water-cooled, 21st century HD motorcycles too. Just my humble opinion!
Air cooled engines are low friction, low temp, and more efficient. The only reason for a high friction, close to engine damage 225 deg water cooled engine... is they are hot enough for a cleaner burn meaning emissions.
LOL.. dingbats think their 4 cylinder dual overhead cam sportbike is modern, yet the Wright Flyer used that same long timing chain design in 1903, the year HD was born.
I’m a Harley guy to the core and I’m good with liquid cooled engines. However not putting dual disc brakes on the front of this bike is a massive failure. How are you gonna give us all the extra power and no extra stopping power? 🤦🏻♂
Matt the reason I think so many people love your videos is that you give good, honest reviews and assessments based upon being a true Harley Rider and Enthusiast. Great Video. Ride Safe out there 🤙🏼
Had mine for a little over a month, after having about every style of Harley over the last 35 years, this is definitley a different (radical ) breed of Harley... it's a wake-up call, for sure!!!
The BEST honest description of a motorcycle I've seen. Makes ya want to go out a buy one now. I'm 67 and own a 2018 road king. And it's getting to be much for me moving it around. (Backing up low speed maneuvering) I never thought I'd say this. I'm thinking about trading down to this sporster s. I guess a test ride might seal the deal
I had a chance to mess around with one of these at the Scottsdale dealership, and I was pretty impressed. The fact that I can now compare anything with a Harley logo on it to a Ducati is kind of mind blowing to me, but it was just as much fun and felt very similar to the XDiavel. The fact that Harley has so aggressively joined both the Adventure and Performance Cruiser market instead of giving a big middle finger to anything resembling competition as they have over the last decade, AND done so with this level of technology bodes very well for the future. I'm pretty excited!
Thanks for another great review Matt. I got to test ride one today and agree it's a tough looking bike suited for shorter rides with power in the low to mid range. I've test rode the Pan Am on and off road and find myself comparing these as well even though they're totally different bikes built for opposite styles and purposes. Mainly because of the controls, the base engines and the fact that the engines are an integrated chassis component. At 5' 8" I don't feel cramped at all on this with the higher seating position and forward controls like I do on the mid mount Softail platforms. You don't sit down into this bike, more like on top of it with the board racer design. I personally didn't find the brakes to be as effective as you, but mostly from the rear and yes I always correctly use both brakes simultaneously unless doing slow speed parking lot maneuvers. The engine braking greatly makes up for that though and the front seemed plenty satisfactory to my surprise for a single disc. My biggest complaint is actually the same as the Pan Am in that the kick stand is wonky and the grips aren't fat enough. Also I did some slow tight parking lot turns and found the wide tires to be a little bit of a disadvantage there, but at speed they do feel very assuring. I wonder if they'll wear that sharp profile down with some mileage on them and lose that confident feel before scheduled replacement is due though. Overall it's a great little machine for urban commuting and short weekend blasts. I kind of have to compare it to a fuel powered version of the Livewire for a seat of the pants fun factor comparison. I started out on a 2002 1200 Custom and this thing is miles ahead of that. I've since then been on big touring bikes for over 16 years now and would never give them up as my primary bike, but one of these Revolution Max options are definitely getting my attention for an alternative companion. Thanks again and keep up the great work!
My guess - the two most common modes - get rid of that huge exhaust, which is actually going to be a pain because then you have that big piece hanging over from the rear fender and license plate and turn signal bracket removal kit. Bike will look awesome after that! EDIT: I just saw this bike in real life - looks really good!
I like that Harley is moving forward and am excited to ride the Pan America and Sportster S, but I’m going to miss the classic styling. The Evo sportsters will always hold a place in my heart, especially the rigid frame models.
I brought mine home today; Midnight Crimson, I have some options ordered (back-ordered) that will be probably warranted for many-- engine guard, tank lock, heated grips, tail bag, and wind-screen. I love this bike! ... put 50 miles on it today (it was my birthday present to myself). This is going to be my go-to bike for urban sport riding. I also have a Honda Rebel and the Harley Heritage Springer Softail 2003. I'm still going to use the Heritage for touring; but for sport city riding the Sportster S is it! marcus
Great review. I bought one yesterday. It's a blast to ride. I've had a sportster with my big twins for several years, my last was a roadster. So far, the S is a big step above in every department except sound. I am not disappointed. I do agree, another 1.5" of rear suspension travel would be better. My only detractor so far. And Corbin does make a good saddle and tail tidy, albeit pricy, it looks like a quality piece.
@@tonypujals Oh man. That's crazy! They are getting a red one in soon in Indianapolis Indiana. I hope you get one soon. This is my favorite bike so far!
I think Harley done a great job on this bike. They have to modernize to remain competive and meet requirements. Your review is the best I've seen yet. Can't wait to see what Harley has in store for the market.
Looks cool, I appreciate that Harley diversified their lineup and has something for everyone to enjoy. Doesn’t appeal to me at all, I love the FXLRS that can be tuned for insane power and performance
I had a chance to ride one off the demo truck, I really think they hit a home run on this one. It was time for the Sportster to move into the 21st century. I hope the continue the migration into a less expensive Sportster model as well. We all know who Matt is he is an HD dealer but he really does an unbiased review on the bikes which I truly appreciate!!
Impressive review. Always on point Matt Laidlaw. Hoping Harley Davidson continues to add this awesome new liquid cooled engine to the other motorcycles. I purchased a Sport Glide in June. This was my first Harley Davidson. I am absolutely loving it. This new liquid engine is undeniably the next evolution to the motor company. I hope in 4-5 years they will have added this awesome new liquid cooled engine to more of the Harley Davidson lineup.
Great review, and video! I'm sure glad that HD is making this bike modern, and up with the times! Currently, I own an 08 Sportster Nightster 1200, and love that bike! The thing I like about the Sportster S is; the styling, price, and the new electronics like the speedometer setup. I think I would change the headlight setup, to the traditional 5.75" round led headlight, and maybe some 5" risers for the handlebars, with drag bars, after I've had it for a couple of years or so. I'm 63yo, and ride almost everywhere I go! But I like the Sportster S the way it looks, off of the showroom floor. Harley Davidsons engineers made the "S" to where it would appeal to the old school buyers, as well as the new! Thumbs up, for Harley-Davidson, they did it again! 👍 🇺🇲
As a new harley rider (Long time R1 rider) that just bought a 2021 low rider S stage 2. HD has done great with the new Sportster but HD couldnt you made the Left side of the engine(or both sides) look just a little better. PS: HD dont forget your roots.
Left side does feel a bit … thrown together. That being said, I love the direction Harley is going. Fatbob , lowriderS, sportster S, This is a new generation of Harleys finally build for us.
Look at the new Triumph Bonneville engine. Looks neat and tidy, all the plumbing well hidden and with a strong link to their past engines. Harley should try harder on the Sportster replacement, a lot harder.
I agree 100% with this, I was actually really disappointed when I finally saw one in person. The online pictures hide the ugliness well. Tons and tons of cheap plastic parts, which protrude on either side. The radiator shroud especially looks terrible. It's clear the engine was conceived separately from the bike, and the final design was rushed. Also, the bike was significantly larger, wider, and longer in person than I anticipated. It's Softail size. Not a Sportster.
Awesome detailed review! Love my Sportster S in black! It’s my first motorcycle, was between it and the Scout Bobber. Got the first one in Ohio about 2 weeks ago. It’s so awesome learning about and exploring this bike. Thank you! Subbed!!
First bike ever?! How do you find riding the Sportster S being a new rider is?! I’m thinking about doing the same. I have my license and have ridden on the road before. Never owned a bike though. Thinking about looking at this option for the first. Thanks! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Sounds like video was recorded in one breath ... monotone and tightly edited with no pauses between sentences, but densely packed with a ton of useful info, so well worth watching. On a waitlist to get one of these and definitely looking forward to it. Thanks for a super informative review.
I'm already hearing reports that these motors are already leaking oil. I didn't sell my EVO Sportster because it was too slow or unenjoyable. Besides being air-cooled, the lack of tech really didn't even bother me that much. It was like riding a reproduction of a classic old car. The charm of a time gone-by but with the reliability of being newer. No, I sold it because it leaked oil and began making a strange noise. The fear of what might come overtook the joy of riding.
Great video Matt! I bet harley comes out with a aftermarket kit to bring that 125hp up to 150+hp later. I know fuelmoto is already working on exhaust and others goodies for that engine
Good job Matt! I am old school and having trouble seeing myself on the new Sportster. I rode a Buell once, that really had some balls. I am looking forward to comparing the two.
I’ve seen a ton of sportster s videos, but was looking out for yours . I appreciate the technical deep dive. I have a heavily modified stage 4 883 to 1200 conversion and a 14 ultra limited . The Sportster S is clearly a loaded bike just like the Pan Am. I think the design with the exhaust so high would have better suited a scrambler application with much more suspension travel.
Sportster S checks more boxes than previous Sportster. More horsepower, more torque, lighter, and fully adjustable suspension. Stability control with IMU standard. (RDRS). Euro 5 requires TC so Harley decided to cover more. Lighter bike requires less torque vs heavier bikes. Sportster S is the most powerful Harley(power to weight) right from the factory. No stage 3 or 4 needed. Love the exhaust, TFT dash, and led headlight. Competes against Indian FTR at same price. I would rather the Harley over FTR. Good job snd new direction Harley
Thanks for a great and honest review, Matt. Appreciate the effort you put in every video. Got my "Softail Standard" today from Harley Factory Frankfurt/Germany. Fit's my needs (being a "Boomer"). The Sportster S is very close to my Gen 1 Yamaha Vmax (take some time and look at the specs - designed and developed in the early eighties). But I think, Harley is doing the exact right thing. Keep the good videos comin'. I enjoy them very much 👊
Awesome review Matt, you explained the all new Sportster S extremely well and covered things that most riders of Sportsters were not aware of until this video like my wife who has now purchased an HD Softail Deluxe but still has her two Sportsters too. 🇺🇸👍
Thanks Matt for informative review again. Now I'm just waiting a flat tracker version of this with thinner 19" front wheel and more suspension travel. I want bike to be like Indian FTR was, not the sissy flat track look-alike naked bike like it is now. Harley has made awesome job with this one!
I think we all know where Harley Davidson is going with platform and I am all for it. The revolution max engine has designed all the problematic issues out and all the technology in. Like it or not this new engine platform will move across the line, hot air cooled engines with bottom end cams, pushrods, huge primary chain in oil and three hole oil filling is over. There is NO WAY this engine technology for HD will not be utilized in touring models going forward real soon.
Hate to disagree but this engine will NOT be going into the other lines. Not only would it require a huge undertaking to redesign every frame and bike from the ground up, the M8 is still in it's infancy as traditional V-twins go. They've got another 10, minimum, before they'll even attempt putting another engine into a bagger or Softail.
I rode one. Obviously air cooled engines are a problem with EPA RESTRICTIONS and the future is going to look different then the past. That said if I’ve got to take my power in a different way I will be happy to take it just like this. Keep it under 6k RPM and it shows good road manners. Take it over that mark and you had better be hanging on and looking way down the road. This bike is legit fast. Don’t think I’ll be trading my crammed out twin cam just yet, but I’m thinking this is a excellent showing by Harley Davidson. Way better then the street thing they tried just time. Good review, you should have mentioned the turn signal switch.
This seems to be the fruited of good competition. Indians little Scout is a fine machine, and very popular, and it just wasn't fair comparing it the the Sporty, but Harley has just released a bike (and a motor) that in my estimation will bring riders back from Indian. Cant wait to see what Harley does with the Sporster, as a platform, for other variants.
Another five star review, Matt! I love that Harley are embracing lots of new tech for the latest bikes but, for me, the styling of this bike doesn’t work. I’m very keen to see how the lower spec Sportsters will look and perform when they are released.
Just traded my 2022 sportster 48 in for a sportster 1250 and it’s diffidently has balls. Love the big rear tire and a bigger gas tank that my 48 didn’t have. Good video.
Another well done video Matt! I have previously owned two evo sportsters. My current bike is a mildly built evo electra glide. I love the way it pulls and sounds, but I am pretty excited about the rev max engine. I can't wait to see what is coming next. I plan on keeping my older bike, but it would awesome to have a new model, like a rev max powered sport touring type (?) As a nice addition to my garage!
When this bike was first revealed I didn't like it. But after seeing it in person and knowing what it's about. I definitely like the new engine and Sportster.
Best review I’ve seen so far. Wow it’s almost under 500 lbs 🤣 I’m actually impressed. So impressed a test ride is in my future. I see a lot of potential for customizing on this platform. Thank you for a great review.
Great video, Matt. This is one of two bikes that I was considering last year. I choose the Nightster because of styling and the narrowing front tire. I rode the Nightster from Maggie Valley,NC to Chattanooga and the only complaint was the 3 gallon gas tank and the heat at idling on the right side of the bike.
Not sure any Harley has the best shocks on to start, maybe the PA, but when I changed my shocks on my RGS it was one of the best changes. No more back breaking over hard bumps.
Harley Davidson will always change to make the people the best Motorcycles they can. All things change... grab the one you like and don't worry about the one you dont... great review Matt😎
It will be shunned by true Harley enthusiasts that love the simplistic design of traditional engineering, the haters that've always denounced Harleys as dinosaurs will tout how it's about time for Harley to produce a technologically advanced bike as they pass the Harley dealerships and continue to buy the metrics (does anyone actually expect a sport liter enthusiast to give up their bike for a Harley?). I'm sure the new sportster will sell somewhat well initially but as the "newness" wears off their sales will decline just as the V-Rods of 20 years ago did.
@@MattLaidlaw In my 56+ years of being in this world, the mantra of Harley being behind the times is nothing new, I've been hearing the same b.s. for the past few generations, the metric bike marketing will always sell the notion of Harley being technologically deficient and made for the old timers and the younger generation always buys into it, they don't usually begin to see the light until they're into their 30's and get their speed demons out of their system. When I was a kid, I always believed Harleys were cool, not because they were fast but because of the build quality, the sound & feel of American muscle and their mystique. Of all the people I knew that bought & rode V-Rods they all turned out the same way, they thought they were cool because of modern tech & were faster than most v-twins, rode them for a short time, grew tired of them and then ended up selling or trading them for a big twin Harley. I've yet to see anything that's to change my opinion, they say life is cyclical. Refinement & evolution is the key for Harley's success, not revolutional wholesale changes.
It would have been great as a touring platform but was too heavy as a sport bike motor. The new Rev Max I think has a chance cause it's a sport bike motor, light, powerful. I also think the motor is very adaptable to many different platforms unlike the Vrod, but like the original Sportster .
@@trekbsg Can't say I give two hoots over what others think, especially an adrenaline junkie on a crotch rocket. If I/you like it, that 's all that matters.
Thank you for the review… sportster s is a good bike..it looks beautiful certainly a good move from Harley-Davidson ( which actually they have been trying from Vrod- only that our people remained stubborn to change)…. I think the street rod 750 is still best city bike from Harley-Davidson…
@Merle J. Stadnyk we all put up with Harley prank…. Don’t know why I love this company… maybe it’s because of the people …I just cannot understand why can’t Harley give a heat shield or put some engineering into swaying the heat away from riders legs…in the current model PanAm too the CEO like to fry his balls instead of getting a heat shield fixed… I have a friend with Vrod and boy it heats up like sun….the seating position can only be comfortable with pullback and raised handlebar ( Harley-Davidson should have given the new takers of the bike a choice)….the bike was pretty famous here in Australia…but because of its short comings ( the absolute neglect to improve things from Harley-Davidson)its doom was inevitable….
Hey Matt, I purchased my first sportster from your dealership, it was a great buying experience . Thank you for this review, will see you soon for my sportster S
Good informative video Matt. I like the direction that Harley is going in now! I can’t wait to see the other Sportster models along with the Bronx. Harley absolutely has to build a bagger with a larger variation of the Revolution Max engine! Add the electronic suspension from the Pan America’ and they won’t be able to build enough of them!
Have had mine since October, first one to be purchased in the state of Virginia to my knowledge. I've been plauged with electrical glitches since day one. Weak starter system firing, dash lighting up with warning codes which includes a never ending check engine light, and ride mode errors/warning. You'd think it wouldn't be an issue when every time you go to upgrade something on the bike it needs an ECM flash that's cost almost $100. Maybe that's the problem. Love the feeling of the bike, and the aesthetic, but true ownership is much to be desired. Terrible since I just spent a lot of money on a new seat, and mid controls (which really helps with control) that took almost 4 months each to get to me. Harley hasn't really knocked it out of the park as much as they'd like to think they did with the Sportster S. This is a shame because I want to really, really love this machine.
I'm down here in Florida and went to Space Coast Harley and ended up driving out on a 1250 s and I love it got to do something about the seat which I'll have a custom seat made for it it's a little extra padding besides that I've been on Rice burners for many years and this is the first Harley that I can say is absolutely awesome I love it go out and buy one for yourself.!
The narrative of the first 2 minutes is unbeatable ! 💪 The review is as comprehensive as it can be from a 1 day of riding! My personal opinion. ( if I were looking for a sportster ) I really like this bike but let me go for the original while they are still here. 🤔 P.S. Finally, the Indian Scout has someone to play with…..
I got to ride the S at the Hometown rally in Milwaukee a couple months ago. I gotta say I WAS BLOWN AWAY by the performance and handling. I didn't care for the mid/forward controls but that's just my preference. The styling is very flat track inspired so it's not super comfy, but that's not what the bike was made for...Hopefully the aftermarket support will help with the tail lights, seat, and exhaust.
As a concept bike, it is spot on! Designed by a Swiss (European concept) too. It's a great bike and feels great to be on especially if you're around 5.6", like me, to 5.10". If you see it as an "urban tool" then you get the idea of it. If not you miss the sense of it. Where do most of the population live? In urban areas. Who buys Sportsters? Young urban people. What are the future market sales? The urban, commuter towns. Which countries will actually use the Sportsters? All the world---not just the Midwest! You see the point of it. Peace. Excellent video, as always, ML knows his stuff.
Great review. Very in depth, loved the commentary on the history of the sportster and the culture. Was expecting a rambly motovlog but pleasantly surprised by a well written script
I watched the video. I had the pleasure to read the all 284 comments till the moment. I'm going to see the video again, to grab something about the engine sound reverberation inside me. The driving position was always a difficult task to me in Harley linup for the last 40 years. Never a HD fits me correctly.
My first Harley was a Sportster. So I had to buy this new model. That first Sportster was a wheely machine. Already changing this models rear brake light.
Great video. The best I have seen on this bike. I got mine two weeks ago and have already logged 600 miles on it. Absolutely love it! Question: You mention the RDRS that comes standard on this bike. In another video you did about RDRS, you demonstrated the Hold functionality when applying the brake handle forcefully once stopped on a hill or incline to hold the bike so you can easily take off without balancing the clutch, throttle, and brakes. I tried to do this with my Sportster S but could not seem to engage this feature. Any suggestions? Again, fantastic video!
Come to a stop. Squeeze the brake hard (either one) it will give a slight buzz through the lever and the brake should lock up. I rarely use it but it is awesome when you want to use it.
Similar amounts of power to the 1250cc V-Rods, but in a much lighter package. Typical V-Rod 650ish lbs, the S comes in at 500, that's a significant difference which will give the advantage to the S. Rods still rip, the S just rips more.
Really leaning towards purchasing this one now. The intro with the narration and music made me think I was watching a new Terminator film and the Sportster S was Skynet's new weapon. Awesome Review!
Matt, thank you for the detailed explanation on the HP difference between the Sportster S and the Pan America. I was worried about that, but you explained it well and I think it makes sense. I love the new Sportster (I'm a Sportster guy) and I am excited about the new engine and line up on that platform. I really appreciate HD making new innovations in the arena and I believe this is what will carry The Motor Company into a successful future. - Great video.
@@thunder8cat I don't even know lol,my phone must have been unlocked in my pocket or who knows,I've been on graveyard shift I might have fallen asleep watching your video who knows!
Yo Matt, I am a Honda guy I bleed Red. I love my 6 cylinder Valkyrie & Goldwing. Harley has 3 Motorsickles that peak my interest. VRod, Pan America & this new Sportster. I love it when Harley steps outside of their traditional Box. Great video, I will demo both new Harley's with the Revolution Max engine Like I did the VRod when they 1st came out. You Meet the Nicest People on a Honda Valkyrie.
At 50, I am now approaching “Pawpaw Applesauce” status, so I’m not sure this one is for me- though I will commit to test riding one in the spring to prove to my ego that we are past this type of ride (I know my ego- he will settle for nothing less). As for the video- surely you know Matt, that your HD review videos are the Gold Standard, right? Though you are a brand guy, your assessments are spot on, and you speak to normal people in a way that is relatable. I just can’t decide if I enjoy your bike or “journey ride” videos more- they are all great! I have learned a ton watching you in the past year- Keep up the awesome work!
Great review! Have 1k on mine now and no regrets. Have owned Sportsters Dynas softtails street and road glides. This is definitely the most fun on my preferred roads. But a little less fun getting there.
I just rode one today... it is fucking mental. Insanely fast bike even in regular road mode ... And I ride souped up 114 in triple digits all the time. Honestly the sports mode scared the shit out me lol
As usual, fantastic review Matt. This bike reminds me of the Indian Scout more than anything. I think the engine, frame, and most of the bike is pretty cool. I generally don’t like complexity and electronics in motorcycles and cars, but it s inevitable these days, so it becomes more of a question of how to best implement it. I think they did a fine job on this bike. That rear tail light hanger thing and rear fender, or lack there of, is the biggest turnoff fir me. It is similar to what they did on the FXDR. Eventually companies like Thunderbike and others came up with restyling kits for the rear of the FXDR, so I would imagine they will do something similar for this bike. I don’t think I like this bike’s riding position for my old overweight self, but my 18 year old self would probably be fine with it. After all, when I was 20 years old, I bought a brand new 1991 Sportster and rode it everywhere. I heard rumors that they may release another Sportster based on this engine that will have somewhat more traditional styling, but at this point, that’s just a rumor that may or may not become reality. I would like to see them take this engine and build a bike around it that is more like a more nimble version of the Low Rider S. Yeah, I am a fan of the M8 Low Rider S.
@@Steve_Kelly_Oak FWIW, my current bike is a 1995 Heritage Softail Classic. That’s right. Carbureted Evolution engine, milled heads, Andrew’s cam, etc. Low tech tractor technology.. Reliable and simple.
I'd personally love for them to do the same. That kind of bike with a tuned-out RevMax would be like an entirely new Street Rod (the good one, not the XG.) I could only imagine the stock performance they could get out of it with some more CCs. I'd also like to see another Sporty with the same 1250, but with a more traditional riding position and a thinner front tire. I like the Sportster S a lot, but I think they slightly missed the mark with the ergos. The handlebars scream for a higher seat and mid controls, it's like they couldn't decide if they wanted to make a power cruiser or a sport bike, and decided to try to do both. It works...but it kind of cuts into the target demographic a bit instead of spreading out the appeal, IMO. The available mid-controls for it just don't quite work unless you're short. I think it would've been a better decision to come out with two variations of the same bike...kind of like the Evo Roadster and 48. Same bike made for two different riders.
First time viewer. Really enjoyed the style and thoroughness of your commentary. Jack Webb (Dragnet-old cop show)would love you.Yea, I did the like & subscribe thing. Thanks for a good review.
I will miss the old 1200 Sportster! I think the new Sportster is awesome and well over due! I can't wait to see a more classic Sportster with the new 1250! Or if Harley-Davidson,bored and stroke the 1250 to a 1380 and put it in the Softail frame that be so sweet! One more thing hope Harley comes out with new motor designs more sooner than 20 to 35 years, like around 10 years!
..haven see a few of the other riders and their reviews , you with your intimate knowledge of all things Harley , your cut down of the Sportster S is very good . you put a lot of the elements that many riders had in their minds , me included , to rest. I have certainly come away with a more positive liking and Harley did well with their cast of trial riders , with all them you tubers , you included , with your dealer experience and broad Harley ride range experience , again Harley senior management did a little good homework on this new model sell ride release because in my opinion , it worked , and I think it work extremely well , diehards will have a second thought as do I , thank you .
Thanks for another great review Matt. I have been quite critical of HD in recent years, and particularly the axing of the CEO and his more roads to harley approach, which I liked. I like this bike in terms of styling, engine and tech. This is what HD need. The sportster was way overdue for replacement, and was not up to scratch in terms of its competition. Im not sure of the riding position, some of the riders looked quite uncomfortable on the highway there. Arms outstretched and leaning forward, legs forward tend to equal pressure on lower back. Did you find that? Anyway bravo HD, lets keep this up!
Great review Matt. I bought my first HD in 1973, a new 1974 Sportster XLCH. I like and would buy this new version - if it can be made to have the nice HD sound.
@@MattLaidlaw No, towed it out west in 1974 to do some riding and to go see Evel do/attempt the Snake River jump in Idaho. Sold it at some point and in 1976 bought a new 1977 FXEF Super Glide for the grand total of $3500. Oops I just looked at my receipt from back then and it says FXE. When I was debating to get back into motorcycle in 1990 I bought a used FXEF.
@@craigjarboe2834 unfortunately, this engine design and all is torque, power, and higher revs, will NEVER come close to sounding like a traditional V-Twin.
I bought one , and recently was able to ride it twenty five hundred miles over six days. And it was phenomenal, all around great bike.
How many miles so far and how's it holding up? Any issues?
Coming from a sportbike, I'm looking to transition over and this bike seems like it could be the one.
What about the position and seating comfort of the bike
2500 miles divided by 144 hours is an average speed of 17.36 mph. That's not very good. If by "day" you instead mean 12 hours then 2500 miles divided by 72 hours is 34.72 mph, which is also not impressive at all. I could maintain an average speed of over 60 mph even with my old 1991 Yamaha DT 125...
@pistonburner6448 Your math is way off. He wasn't literally riding every hour of every day tard. Lol
@@pistonburner6448you must not speak English as your first language, and that's just fine, but you didn't understand the comment at all.
Hey Guys I said something wrong about the history of the Sportster. I want to correct it. I said that the Sportster was the first Harley with Over head valves. This is wrong. In 1952 the K model was released and ran till 1956. The Sportster motor was a derivative of this motor. In 1957 they modified this engine to give it the Over head valves. So that year was the first year of this K-model engine to receive the OHV system. The first Harley to have OHVs was the Knuckle head. Sorry for the error!
Edit: Hey Guys, I'm a bone head. At 4:28 I show a Sportster S equipped with Mid-Controls not Forward Controls. In the text I say it's forward controls. My BAD! The mid-controls are offered as a Parts & Accessories option.
we knew what you meant with sportster being the topic, i guess indian made us build this to put them in their place, again
*Why was the I guess the speedometer blinking like that **#Matt_Laidlaw**❓At the beginning of the video.* 👀
@@jamesfcarlton6890 it has to do camera frame rates and the screen refresh rate. In person it doesn’t blink.
I still think they should have build the Bronx with the new engine in and build a smaller cc M8 for Sportster.
Actually Matt, the first time Harley-Davidson engineers incorporated overhead-valves into a V-twin motor was WAY back in 1915 (most books incorrectly say 1916) with the Eight-Valve racing engine (yes, eight valves!) The 1936 "61 OHV" model EL Knucklehead was Harley-Davidson's first production OHV V-twin. Using the Eight-Valve Harley-Davidson's so-called "Wrecking Crew" blew Indian off the racetrack. Ironically, I believe your modern competitor Polaris-Indian has adopted the Wrecking Crew name--possibly even trademarking it.
I am +60 y.o, has driven mostly big twins but ended my days as a Harley driver and the air-cooled engines with a 1990 Sportster and a souped up 2010 Iron Black Custom. Very fun bike. I did it the other way around so to speak and now they are both sold too and I have bought/built me a mobile home instead (retired). I loved my Iron and now I am really ambivalent when talking about the Sportster S . One part of me is just shouting "He** YES!" and the other part shouts equally high, "He** NO!". :) If it really came down to it, I would very much like to give it a chance and I do believe the younger generation will love it right out off the blocks.
Great review Matt, appreciate the detail and honesty. Regardless if this is the bike for you or not you have to appreciate what Harley has built. If nothing else it is a rolling work of art!
Agreed. It's a rad bike whether it's what you're looking for or not.
It’s always good when a brand gives options
If you really appreciate Harleys you wouldn't be making that comment. Harley is losing the Heritage. IMHO and I own 9 of them and love them , but the new bikes , you can have em
I was so surprised by how amazing it looks 'in person'! Stunning bike.
And I love the forward controls: it's something special to differentiate it from other bikes. It gives so much personality. I know mid controls are better, but I'd definitely choose forward controls for the Harley. (And I will, if I make the decision after winter to go on the dangerous roads on 2 wheels again and buy the Sportster S.)
I'm really skeptical about the engine sound now though. I don't understand how Harley could choose that V-angle and crank angle, since it makes it sound like most basic commuter inline-2 engines... I'm still going to see what I think about that when I get to test it in a few months.
I recently was in the market and while the ''official'' msrp is $15,500 I could not find one below $17,999 in my area. No one ever mentions this aspect of buying a Harley.....all the surcharges and other ''hidden'' fees you don't see until you get the buyer's order.
Great review! The Sportster S, to me, is more V-Rod-like than Sportster-like (Sportsters of old). I've owned both an old Sportster and a V-Rod so when I first saw the Sportster S in the flesh, it really did remind me of a V-Rod more than anything else. Whatever the case, I'm glad HD is modernizing its line-up with bikes like the Pan America and the Sportster S. Sure, I loved my old Sportster and I currently own a Twin Cam Road King but when I buy a new bike in the not-too-distant-future, I want a bike with the Revolution engine (probably a Pan America Special). This is progress...the HD faithful should embrace it because that's life. We don't use landline telephones or tube-type televisions any longer so we should also accept water-cooled, 21st century HD motorcycles too. Just my humble opinion!
Thanks for the comment.
Thank you for this comment - every young motorcycle enthusiast who was excited when this bike and the pan America came
Air cooled engines are low friction, low temp, and more efficient. The only reason for a high friction, close to engine damage 225 deg water cooled engine... is they are hot enough for a cleaner burn meaning emissions.
LOL.. dingbats think their 4 cylinder dual overhead cam sportbike is modern, yet the Wright Flyer used that same long timing chain design in 1903, the year HD was born.
I’m a Harley guy to the core and I’m good with liquid cooled engines. However not putting dual disc brakes on the front of this bike is a massive failure. How are you gonna give us all the extra power and no extra stopping power? 🤦🏻♂
Matt the reason I think so many people love your videos is that you give good, honest reviews and assessments based upon being a true Harley Rider and Enthusiast. Great Video. Ride Safe out there 🤙🏼
I saw it and heard it..sat on it.....ITS A BAD ASS BIKE.. Harley did good on this one... been riding for 56 years...
Had mine for a little over a month, after having about every style of Harley over the last 35 years, this is definitley a different (radical ) breed of Harley... it's a wake-up call, for sure!!!
Nice to know 🤙🏼. Thanks for the comment. Enjoy the bike!
The BEST honest description of a motorcycle I've seen. Makes ya want to go out a buy one now. I'm 67 and own a 2018 road king. And it's getting to be much for me moving it around. (Backing up low speed maneuvering) I never thought I'd say this. I'm thinking about trading down to this sporster s. I guess a test ride might seal the deal
I had a chance to mess around with one of these at the Scottsdale dealership, and I was pretty impressed. The fact that I can now compare anything with a Harley logo on it to a Ducati is kind of mind blowing to me, but it was just as much fun and felt very similar to the XDiavel. The fact that Harley has so aggressively joined both the Adventure and Performance Cruiser market instead of giving a big middle finger to anything resembling competition as they have over the last decade, AND done so with this level of technology bodes very well for the future. I'm pretty excited!
Thanks for another great review Matt. I got to test ride one today and agree it's a tough looking bike suited for shorter rides with power in the low to mid range. I've test rode the Pan Am on and off road and find myself comparing these as well even though they're totally different bikes built for opposite styles and purposes. Mainly because of the controls, the base engines and the fact that the engines are an integrated chassis component. At 5' 8" I don't feel cramped at all on this with the higher seating position and forward controls like I do on the mid mount Softail platforms. You don't sit down into this bike, more like on top of it with the board racer design. I personally didn't find the brakes to be as effective as you, but mostly from the rear and yes I always correctly use both brakes simultaneously unless doing slow speed parking lot maneuvers. The engine braking greatly makes up for that though and the front seemed plenty satisfactory to my surprise for a single disc. My biggest complaint is actually the same as the Pan Am in that the kick stand is wonky and the grips aren't fat enough. Also I did some slow tight parking lot turns and found the wide tires to be a little bit of a disadvantage there, but at speed they do feel very assuring. I wonder if they'll wear that sharp profile down with some mileage on them and lose that confident feel before scheduled replacement is due though. Overall it's a great little machine for urban commuting and short weekend blasts. I kind of have to compare it to a fuel powered version of the Livewire for a seat of the pants fun factor comparison. I started out on a 2002 1200 Custom and this thing is miles ahead of that. I've since then been on big touring bikes for over 16 years now and would never give them up as my primary bike, but one of these Revolution Max options are definitely getting my attention for an alternative companion. Thanks again and keep up the great work!
Wow you killed it on this video. First one I’ve watched of yours but I’ll be watching more!
They are all great! You will enjoy his channel.
Thanks for checking out my channel. Much appreciated.
*Yeah been following for a while now.*
When I see this bike I have the sensation of seeing so many similitudes to the VROD, starting for the angle of the engine heads (60’)
On paper it has a lot of parallels
My guess - the two most common modes - get rid of that huge exhaust, which is actually going to be a pain because then you have that big piece hanging over from the rear fender and license plate and turn signal bracket removal kit. Bike will look awesome after that! EDIT: I just saw this bike in real life - looks really good!
ya the exhaust is soooo ugly to me
I like that Harley is moving forward and am excited to ride the Pan America and Sportster S, but I’m going to miss the classic styling. The Evo sportsters will always hold a place in my heart, especially the rigid frame models.
That was maybe the most informative motorcycle review video I’ve ever watched, and the visuals were great too. Thx a lot.
Thank you!!
You're getting really good, Matt. Thank you for your terrific videos.
Thanks for watching!!
I brought mine home today; Midnight Crimson, I have some options ordered (back-ordered) that will be probably warranted for many-- engine guard, tank lock, heated grips, tail bag, and wind-screen.
I love this bike! ... put 50 miles on it today (it was my birthday present to myself). This is going to be my go-to bike for urban sport riding. I also have a Honda Rebel and the Harley Heritage Springer Softail 2003. I'm still going to use the Heritage for touring; but for sport city riding the Sportster S is it!
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The best looking Sportsters to me were the first ones. 1957 nailed it. I wish they would bring that one back.
Iron 1200 is sharp.
Great review. I bought one yesterday. It's a blast to ride.
I've had a sportster with my big twins for several years, my last was a roadster. So far, the S is a big step above in every department except sound. I am not disappointed. I do agree, another 1.5" of rear suspension travel would be better. My only detractor so far. And Corbin does make a good saddle and tail tidy, albeit pricy, it looks like a quality piece.
Good to hear. Glad you’re enjoying it. I’ll have to check out the tail tidy
I've had my new Sportster S for 2 weeks and I love it!
I'm jealous! Put a $500 deposit down to be #9 on the waitlist at San Jose Harley-Davidson. Currently not expected to get one until early 2022.
Awesome man. Enjoy. Super fun bikes
@@tonypujals Oh man. That's crazy! They are getting a red one in soon in Indianapolis Indiana. I hope you get one soon. This is my favorite bike so far!
@@MattLaidlaw thank you!
@@pamelacole3639 Thanks, glad to hear!
Matt. You and your team put out the best Harley Davidson content on UA-cam. Hands down.
I appreciate that man
@@MattLaidlaw I agree, love watching Matts video's
I think Harley done a great job on this bike. They have to modernize to remain competive and meet requirements. Your review is the best I've seen yet. Can't wait to see what Harley has in store for the market.
Looks cool, I appreciate that Harley diversified their lineup and has something for everyone to enjoy. Doesn’t appeal to me at all, I love the FXLRS that can be tuned for insane power and performance
Can't go wrong with a Low Rider S
I’d still dust your tuned FXL on my Sportster s
I had a chance to ride one off the demo truck, I really think they hit a home run on this one. It was time for the Sportster to move into the 21st century. I hope the continue the migration into a less expensive Sportster model as well. We all know who Matt is he is an HD dealer but he really does an unbiased review on the bikes which I truly appreciate!!
Impressive review. Always on point Matt Laidlaw. Hoping Harley Davidson continues to add this awesome new liquid cooled engine to the other motorcycles. I purchased a Sport Glide in June. This was my first Harley Davidson. I am absolutely loving it. This new liquid engine is undeniably the next evolution to the motor company. I hope in 4-5 years they will have added this awesome new liquid cooled engine to more of the Harley Davidson lineup.
Great review, and video!
I'm sure glad that HD is making this bike modern, and up with the times!
Currently, I own an 08 Sportster Nightster 1200, and love that bike!
The thing I like about the Sportster S is; the styling, price, and the new electronics like the speedometer setup.
I think I would change the headlight setup, to the traditional 5.75" round led headlight, and maybe some 5" risers for the handlebars, with drag bars, after I've had it for a couple of years or so.
I'm 63yo, and ride almost everywhere I go!
But I like the Sportster S the way it looks, off of the showroom floor.
Harley Davidsons engineers made the "S" to where it would appeal to the old school buyers, as well as the new!
Thumbs up, for Harley-Davidson, they did it again! 👍 🇺🇲
As a new harley rider (Long time R1 rider) that just bought a 2021 low rider S stage 2. HD has done great with the new Sportster but HD couldnt you made the Left side of the engine(or both sides) look just a little better. PS: HD dont forget your roots.
The Right side is definitely prettier than the left. That's for sure
Left side does feel a bit … thrown together.
That being said, I love the direction Harley is going.
Fatbob , lowriderS, sportster S,
This is a new generation of Harleys finally build for us.
Look at the new Triumph Bonneville engine. Looks neat and tidy, all the plumbing well hidden and with a strong link to their past engines. Harley should try harder on the Sportster replacement, a lot harder.
I agree 100% with this, I was actually really disappointed when I finally saw one in person. The online pictures hide the ugliness well. Tons and tons of cheap plastic parts, which protrude on either side. The radiator shroud especially looks terrible. It's clear the engine was conceived separately from the bike, and the final design was rushed. Also, the bike was significantly larger, wider, and longer in person than I anticipated. It's Softail size. Not a Sportster.
@@splodge57 I quickly arrived at the same Triumph comparison. This was half-assed. Not a concerted attempt to replace the Sportster. Thank you.
Best sporter review ive watched so far! You almost convinced me to buy one!!
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Awesome detailed review! Love my Sportster S in black! It’s my first motorcycle, was between it and the Scout Bobber. Got the first one in Ohio about 2 weeks ago. It’s so awesome learning about and exploring this bike. Thank you! Subbed!!
First bike ever?! How do you find riding the Sportster S being a new rider is?! I’m thinking about doing the same. I have my license and have ridden on the road before. Never owned a bike though. Thinking about looking at this option for the first. Thanks! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
I'll be looking forward to seeing the cheaper Sportster versions, and seeing how they compete with the Indian Scouts
As always a good job. Glad to see Harley now into the tech side of motorcycles. Still ahead of Indian in that niche.
Sounds like video was recorded in one breath ... monotone and tightly edited with no pauses between sentences, but densely packed with a ton of useful info, so well worth watching. On a waitlist to get one of these and definitely looking forward to it. Thanks for a super informative review.
I'm already hearing reports that these motors are already leaking oil. I didn't sell my EVO Sportster because it was too slow or unenjoyable. Besides being air-cooled, the lack of tech really didn't even bother me that much. It was like riding a reproduction of a classic old car. The charm of a time gone-by but with the reliability of being newer. No, I sold it because it leaked oil and began making a strange noise. The fear of what might come overtook the joy of riding.
it leaves some hope that eventually it might become part of the family
Leaking oil? Link?
Great video Matt! I bet harley comes out with a aftermarket kit to bring that 125hp up to 150+hp later. I know fuelmoto is already working on exhaust and others goodies for that engine
There will soon be a large offerring of aftermarket goodies for us to sift through.
Good job Matt! I am old school and having trouble seeing myself on the new Sportster. I rode a Buell once, that really had some balls. I am looking forward to comparing the two.
I had a 98 Buell Thunderbolt, it is very different. The S is just more modern.
I’ve seen a ton of sportster s videos, but was looking out for yours . I appreciate the technical deep dive. I have a heavily modified stage 4 883 to 1200 conversion and a 14 ultra limited . The Sportster S is clearly a loaded bike just like the Pan Am. I think the design with the exhaust so high would have better suited a scrambler application with much more suspension travel.
Thanks for tuning in and commenting
This is the best review I have seen of the new Sportster S by HD. Thoroughly explained inside out and enjoyed every aspect of it. Thank you.
Sportster S checks more boxes than previous Sportster. More horsepower, more torque, lighter, and fully adjustable suspension. Stability control with IMU standard. (RDRS). Euro 5 requires TC so Harley decided to cover more. Lighter bike requires less torque vs heavier bikes. Sportster S is the most powerful Harley(power to weight) right from the factory. No stage 3 or 4 needed. Love the exhaust, TFT dash, and led headlight. Competes against Indian FTR at same price. I would rather the Harley over FTR. Good job snd new direction Harley
Finally a good video about the Sportster S! Your review is the best on UA-cam, plenty of infos and beloved tech talk. Thanks!
Thanks for a great and honest review, Matt. Appreciate the effort you put in every video. Got my "Softail Standard" today from Harley Factory Frankfurt/Germany. Fit's my needs (being a "Boomer"). The Sportster S is very close to my Gen 1 Yamaha Vmax (take some time and look at the specs - designed and developed in the early eighties). But I think, Harley is doing the exact right thing. Keep the good videos comin'. I enjoy them very much 👊
Thanks man. Congrats on the bike. Yes, I'm familiar with the V-Max. It's withstood the test of time.
Awesome review Matt, you explained the all new Sportster S extremely well and covered things that most riders of Sportsters were not aware of until this video like my wife who has now purchased an HD Softail Deluxe but still has her two Sportsters too. 🇺🇸👍
Thanks Matt for informative review again. Now I'm just waiting a flat tracker version of this with thinner 19" front wheel and more suspension travel. I want bike to be like Indian FTR was, not the sissy flat track look-alike naked bike like it is now. Harley has made awesome job with this one!
Hopefully something like that is coming down the pipe. Hopefully it isn't like the FTR, that bike is garbage :)
I think we all know where Harley Davidson is going with platform and I am all for it. The revolution max engine has designed all the problematic issues out and all the technology in. Like it or not this new engine platform will move across the line, hot air cooled engines with bottom end cams, pushrods, huge primary chain in oil and three hole oil filling is over. There is NO WAY this engine technology for HD will not be utilized in touring models going forward real soon.
Hate to disagree but this engine will NOT be going into the other lines. Not only would it require a huge undertaking to redesign every frame and bike from the ground up, the M8 is still in it's infancy as traditional V-twins go. They've got another 10, minimum, before they'll even attempt putting another engine into a bagger or Softail.
Sir you are the real Harley guy, u have the technical knowledge about Harley's, I v been watching your vdeos since 1.5 yrs now and I love it ❤️
Bro, much appreciated! I appreciate the Support! Thank you for watching
I rode one. Obviously air cooled engines are a problem with EPA RESTRICTIONS and the future is going to look different then the past. That said if I’ve got to take my power in a different way I will be happy to take it just like this. Keep it under 6k RPM and it shows good road manners. Take it over that mark and you had better be hanging on and looking way down the road. This bike is legit fast. Don’t think I’ll be trading my crammed out twin cam just yet, but I’m thinking this is a excellent showing by Harley Davidson. Way better then the street thing they tried just time. Good review, you should have mentioned the turn signal switch.
This seems to be the fruited of good competition. Indians little Scout is a fine machine, and very popular, and it just wasn't fair comparing it the the Sporty, but Harley has just released a bike (and a motor) that in my estimation will bring riders back from Indian. Cant wait to see what Harley does with the Sporster, as a platform, for other variants.
Excellent review, Matt, thank you. I was looking forward to hearing your impressions. Personally, I can't wait to ride one of these.
Another five star review, Matt! I love that Harley are embracing lots of new tech for the latest bikes but, for me, the styling of this bike doesn’t work. I’m very keen to see how the lower spec Sportsters will look and perform when they are released.
I test rode a Sportster S few weeks ago and it was AWESOME!!
Glad to hear you liked it
Oh definitely. I ride a 2021 Roadglide Limited and def would love to have one of these as an extra bike to toy around with locally!! So much fun!
Just traded my 2022 sportster 48 in for a sportster 1250 and it’s diffidently has balls. Love the big rear tire and a bigger gas tank that my 48 didn’t have. Good video.
Another well done video Matt! I have previously owned two evo sportsters. My current bike is a mildly built evo electra glide. I love the way it pulls and sounds, but I am pretty excited about the rev max engine. I can't wait to see what is coming next. I plan on keeping my older bike, but it would awesome to have a new model, like a rev max powered sport touring type (?) As a nice addition to my garage!
When this bike was first revealed I didn't like it. But after seeing it in person and knowing what it's about. I definitely like the new engine and Sportster.
Best review I’ve seen so far. Wow it’s almost under 500 lbs 🤣 I’m actually impressed. So impressed a test ride is in my future. I see a lot of potential for customizing on this platform. Thank you for a great review.
This is hands down the best review on the sportster s.
Best info I’ve seen so far on the sportster S thanks Matt
I Appreciate the positive feedback. Thank you for watching!
Great video, Matt. This is one of two bikes that I was considering last year. I choose the Nightster because of styling and the narrowing front tire. I rode the Nightster from Maggie Valley,NC to Chattanooga and the only complaint was the 3 gallon gas tank and the heat at idling on the right side of the bike.
Thanks. And thanks for the feedback about the bike. Always good to hear from guys that actually buy and ride the bikes.
Great coverage and visuals. By far one of the best reviews. Just made my decision easier. Thanks!!!
Not sure any Harley has the best shocks on to start, maybe the PA, but when I changed my shocks on my RGS it was one of the best changes. No more back breaking over hard bumps.
Harley Davidson will always change to make the people the best Motorcycles they can. All things change... grab the one you like and don't worry about the one you dont... great review Matt😎
Thanks for the comment my friend
the first 2 minutes got me pumped for the Sportster S, awesome video Matt.
It will be shunned by true Harley enthusiasts that love the simplistic design of traditional engineering, the haters that've always denounced Harleys as dinosaurs will tout how it's about time for Harley to produce a technologically advanced bike as they pass the Harley dealerships and continue to buy the metrics (does anyone actually expect a sport liter enthusiast to give up their bike for a Harley?). I'm sure the new sportster will sell somewhat well initially but as the "newness" wears off their sales will decline just as the V-Rods of 20 years ago did.
Interesting take. Do you think that the buyers are different now than 20 years ago when the v-rod first came out?
@@MattLaidlaw In my 56+ years of being in this world, the mantra of Harley being behind the times is nothing new, I've been hearing the same b.s. for the past few generations, the metric bike marketing will always sell the notion of Harley being technologically deficient and made for the old timers and the younger generation always buys into it, they don't usually begin to see the light until they're into their 30's and get their speed demons out of their system. When I was a kid, I always believed Harleys were cool, not because they were fast but because of the build quality, the sound & feel of American muscle and their mystique. Of all the people I knew that bought & rode V-Rods they all turned out the same way, they thought they were cool because of modern tech & were faster than most v-twins, rode them for a short time, grew tired of them and then ended up selling or trading them for a big twin Harley. I've yet to see anything that's to change my opinion, they say life is cyclical. Refinement & evolution is the key for Harley's success, not revolutional wholesale changes.
@@trekbsg My theory why the Vrod never took off is it was a powerful modern motor but it was designed like a tank
It would have been great as a touring platform but was too heavy as a sport bike motor. The new Rev Max I think has a chance cause it's a sport bike motor, light, powerful. I also think the motor is very adaptable to many different platforms unlike the Vrod, but like the original Sportster .
@@trekbsg Can't say I give two hoots over what others think, especially an adrenaline junkie on a crotch rocket. If I/you like it, that 's all that matters.
Thank you for the review… sportster s is a good bike..it looks beautiful certainly a good move from Harley-Davidson ( which actually they have been trying from Vrod- only that our people remained stubborn to change)…. I think the street rod 750 is still best city bike from Harley-Davidson…
@Merle J. Stadnyk we all put up with Harley prank…. Don’t know why I love this company… maybe it’s because of the people …I just cannot understand why can’t Harley give a heat shield or put some engineering into swaying the heat away from riders legs…in the current model PanAm too the CEO like to fry his balls instead of getting a heat shield fixed… I have a friend with Vrod and boy it heats up like sun….the seating position can only be comfortable with pullback and raised handlebar ( Harley-Davidson should have given the new takers of the bike a choice)….the bike was pretty famous here in Australia…but because of its short comings ( the absolute neglect to improve things from Harley-Davidson)its doom was inevitable….
Hey Matt, I purchased my first sportster from your dealership, it was a great buying experience . Thank you for this review, will see you soon for my sportster S
Awesome man. Thanks for the business. See you soon.
Good informative video Matt. I like the direction that Harley is going in now! I can’t wait to see the other Sportster models along with the Bronx. Harley absolutely has to build a bagger with a larger variation of the Revolution Max engine! Add the electronic suspension from the Pan America’ and they won’t be able to build enough of them!
We will see where it goes. The possibilities are huge
The Bronx was shelved.
@Nick Papagiorgio yes for the moment but I still believe it's coming out.
@@KevinButler816 if it does, it won't be for several years.
@Nick Papagiorgio let's make a friendly bet on it coming out this year lol
Have had mine since October, first one to be purchased in the state of Virginia to my knowledge. I've been plauged with electrical glitches since day one. Weak starter system firing, dash lighting up with warning codes which includes a never ending check engine light, and ride mode errors/warning. You'd think it wouldn't be an issue when every time you go to upgrade something on the bike it needs an ECM flash that's cost almost $100. Maybe that's the problem. Love the feeling of the bike, and the aesthetic, but true ownership is much to be desired. Terrible since I just spent a lot of money on a new seat, and mid controls (which really helps with control) that took almost 4 months each to get to me. Harley hasn't really knocked it out of the park as much as they'd like to think they did with the Sportster S. This is a shame because I want to really, really love this machine.
@@johnm6683 traded up for a 22 Fat Bob, no regrets. Great bike!
Thank, Matt. Now I have to have one of these badasses.
You already cost me a Fat Bob 114. She’s a dream. 💯❤️🤙🏼😜
I'm down here in Florida and went to Space Coast Harley and ended up driving out on a 1250 s and I love it got to do something about the seat which I'll have a custom seat made for it it's a little extra padding besides that I've been on Rice burners for many years and this is the first Harley that I can say is absolutely awesome I love it go out and buy one for yourself.!
The narrative of the first 2 minutes is unbeatable ! 💪
The review is as comprehensive as it can be from a 1 day of riding!
My personal opinion. ( if I were looking for a sportster )
I really like this bike but let me go for the original while they are still here. 🤔
P.S. Finally, the Indian Scout has someone to play with…..
I got to ride the S at the Hometown rally in Milwaukee a couple months ago. I gotta say I WAS BLOWN AWAY by the performance and handling. I didn't care for the mid/forward controls but that's just my preference. The styling is very flat track inspired so it's not super comfy, but that's not what the bike was made for...Hopefully the aftermarket support will help with the tail lights, seat, and exhaust.
As a concept bike, it is spot on! Designed by a Swiss (European concept) too. It's a great bike and feels great to be on especially if you're around 5.6", like me, to 5.10". If you see it as an "urban tool" then you get the idea of it. If not you miss the sense of it. Where do most of the population live? In urban areas. Who buys Sportsters? Young urban people. What are the future market sales? The urban, commuter towns. Which countries will actually use the Sportsters? All the world---not just the Midwest! You see the point of it. Peace. Excellent video, as always, ML knows his stuff.
Great review. Very in depth, loved the commentary on the history of the sportster and the culture. Was expecting a rambly motovlog but pleasantly surprised by a well written script
I watched the video. I had the pleasure to read the all 284 comments till the moment. I'm going to see the video again, to grab something about the engine sound reverberation inside me. The driving position was always a difficult task to me in Harley linup for the last 40 years. Never a HD fits me correctly.
I saw this in-person at the dealership. Seriously sick looking bike. Nothing out there like it.
My first Harley was a Sportster. So I had to buy this new model. That first Sportster was a wheely machine. Already changing this models rear brake light.
Great review - I have my grand tour monster in my 2019 Gold Wing Bagger, when i got back into riding HD had nothing that excited me until this.......
The Rev Max is definitely opening up a lot of possibilities for H-D's lineup
A very comprehensive review. You put a lot of effort into this. And it shows. Thank you.
My local dealer finally got one in stock and they are charging 5k just in dealer mark up. Insane!
Killer bike ... It reminds me of the Bobber style... and I love it...
Great video. The best I have seen on this bike. I got mine two weeks ago and have already logged 600 miles on it. Absolutely love it!
Question: You mention the RDRS that comes standard on this bike. In another video you did about RDRS, you demonstrated the Hold functionality when applying the brake handle forcefully once stopped on a hill or incline to hold the bike so you can easily take off without balancing the clutch, throttle, and brakes. I tried to do this with my Sportster S but could not seem to engage this feature. Any suggestions?
Again, fantastic video!
Come to a stop. Squeeze the brake hard (either one) it will give a slight buzz through the lever and the brake should lock up.
I rarely use it but it is awesome when you want to use it.
Thanks Matt, big fan of your videos. How does the sportster s power compare to the vrod?
Similar amounts of power to the 1250cc V-Rods, but in a much lighter package. Typical V-Rod 650ish lbs, the S comes in at 500, that's a significant difference which will give the advantage to the S. Rods still rip, the S just rips more.
@@stevem4783 thanks Steve, I’ll definitely test ride one
Really leaning towards purchasing this one now. The intro with the narration and music made me think I was watching a new Terminator film and the Sportster S was Skynet's new weapon. Awesome Review!
Matt, thank you for the detailed explanation on the HP difference between the Sportster S and the Pan America. I was worried about that, but you explained it well and I think it makes sense. I love the new Sportster (I'm a Sportster guy) and I am excited about the new engine and line up on that platform. I really appreciate HD making new innovations in the arena and I believe this is what will carry The Motor Company into a successful future. - Great video.
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@@IvyCreek-76 What's that?
@@thunder8cat I don't even know lol,my phone must have been unlocked in my pocket or who knows,I've been on graveyard shift I might have fallen asleep watching your video who knows!
@@IvyCreek-76 LOL - I can relate! - Take care bro!
Yo Matt, I am a Honda guy I bleed Red. I love my 6 cylinder Valkyrie & Goldwing. Harley has 3 Motorsickles that peak my interest. VRod, Pan America & this new Sportster. I love it when Harley steps outside of their traditional Box. Great video, I will demo both new Harley's with the Revolution Max engine Like I did the VRod when they 1st came out. You Meet the Nicest People on a Honda Valkyrie.
At 50, I am now approaching “Pawpaw Applesauce” status, so I’m not sure this one is for me- though I will commit to test riding one in the spring to prove to my ego that we are past this type of ride (I know my ego- he will settle for nothing less). As for the video- surely you know Matt, that your HD review videos are the Gold Standard, right? Though you are a brand guy, your assessments are spot on, and you speak to normal people in a way that is relatable. I just can’t decide if I enjoy your bike or “journey ride” videos more- they are all great! I have learned a ton watching you in the past year- Keep up the awesome work!
Great video Matt. There is going to be a "Sport-Tourer" with this engine within the next two years. TAKE IT TO THE BANK!!
I don't know. We will see what H-D goes with it
Good video Matt yeah the Sport is back in Sportster! Cant wait to see how the bike progresses over the next few years and beyond.
Great review! Very detailed and comprehensive. Best review of the Sportster S. Congratulations
Great review! Have 1k on mine now and no regrets. Have owned Sportsters Dynas softtails street and road glides. This is definitely the most fun on my preferred roads. But a little less fun getting there.
That's the bike that converted me. I love my Sportster S
I just rode one today... it is fucking mental. Insanely fast bike even in regular road mode ... And I ride souped up 114 in triple digits all the time. Honestly the sports mode scared the shit out me lol
Yes sir. This thing is seriously fast.
As usual, fantastic review Matt. This bike reminds me of the Indian Scout more than anything. I think the engine, frame, and most of the bike is pretty cool. I generally don’t like complexity and electronics in motorcycles and cars, but it s inevitable these days, so it becomes more of a question of how to best implement it. I think they did a fine job on this bike. That rear tail light hanger thing and rear fender, or lack there of, is the biggest turnoff fir me. It is similar to what they did on the FXDR. Eventually companies like Thunderbike and others came up with restyling kits for the rear of the FXDR, so I would imagine they will do something similar for this bike. I don’t think I like this bike’s riding position for my old overweight self, but my 18 year old self would probably be fine with it. After all, when I was 20 years old, I bought a brand new 1991 Sportster and rode it everywhere.
I heard rumors that they may release another Sportster based on this engine that will have somewhat more traditional styling, but at this point, that’s just a rumor that may or may not become reality. I would like to see them take this engine and build a bike around it that is more like a more nimble version of the Low Rider S. Yeah, I am a fan of the M8 Low Rider S.
I second every word you wrote above (and I own an M8 lowrider s). Lol
@@Steve_Kelly_Oak FWIW, my current bike is a 1995 Heritage Softail Classic. That’s right. Carbureted Evolution engine, milled heads, Andrew’s cam, etc. Low tech tractor technology.. Reliable and simple.
I'd personally love for them to do the same. That kind of bike with a tuned-out RevMax would be like an entirely new Street Rod (the good one, not the XG.) I could only imagine the stock performance they could get out of it with some more CCs.
I'd also like to see another Sporty with the same 1250, but with a more traditional riding position and a thinner front tire.
I like the Sportster S a lot, but I think they slightly missed the mark with the ergos. The handlebars scream for a higher seat and mid controls, it's like they couldn't decide if they wanted to make a power cruiser or a sport bike, and decided to try to do both. It works...but it kind of cuts into the target demographic a bit instead of spreading out the appeal, IMO. The available mid-controls for it just don't quite work unless you're short. I think it would've been a better decision to come out with two variations of the same bike...kind of like the Evo Roadster and 48. Same bike made for two different riders.
First time viewer. Really enjoyed the style and thoroughness of your commentary. Jack Webb (Dragnet-old cop show)would love you.Yea, I did the like & subscribe thing. Thanks for a good review.
I agree with you. Really looking forward to other models.
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I will miss the old 1200 Sportster! I think the new Sportster is awesome and well over due! I can't wait to see a more classic Sportster with the new 1250! Or if Harley-Davidson,bored and stroke the 1250 to a 1380 and put it in the Softail frame that be so sweet! One more thing hope Harley comes out with new motor designs more sooner than 20 to 35 years, like around 10 years!
..haven see a few of the other riders and their reviews , you with your intimate knowledge of all things Harley , your cut down of the Sportster S is very good . you put a lot of the elements that many riders had in their minds , me included , to rest. I have certainly come away with a more positive liking and Harley did well with their cast of trial riders , with all them you tubers , you included , with your dealer experience and broad Harley ride range experience , again Harley senior management did a little good homework on this new model sell ride release because in my opinion , it worked , and I think it work extremely well , diehards will have a second thought as do I , thank you .
Such a GREAT video, thanks as always for your insight & hard work to take the time to bring us Harley info. Much appreciated ✌🏼
Thank you for watching. 👍🏼
Thanks for another great review Matt. I have been quite critical of HD in recent years, and particularly the axing of the CEO and his more roads to harley approach, which I liked. I like this bike in terms of styling, engine and tech. This is what HD need. The sportster was way overdue for replacement, and was not up to scratch in terms of its competition. Im not sure of the riding position, some of the riders looked quite uncomfortable on the highway there. Arms outstretched and leaning forward, legs forward tend to equal pressure on lower back. Did you find that? Anyway bravo HD, lets keep this up!
Great review Matt. I bought my first HD in 1973, a new 1974 Sportster XLCH. I like and would buy this new version - if it can be made to have the nice HD sound.
Rad, do you still own the Sportster ?
@@MattLaidlaw No, towed it out west in 1974 to do some riding and to go see Evel do/attempt the Snake River jump in Idaho. Sold it at some point and in 1976 bought a new 1977 FXEF Super Glide for the grand total of $3500. Oops I just looked at my receipt from back then and it says FXE. When I was debating to get back into motorcycle in 1990 I bought a used FXEF.
@@craigjarboe2834 unfortunately, this engine design and all is torque, power, and higher revs, will NEVER come close to sounding like a traditional V-Twin.
So stoked on this new look (minus the pipes, not so much the height but the cheesy look/finish) but this engine breakdown is great 👍