Thank you guys a bunch for the input and for watching! Loved getting to look through these and reply to y'all. the winner is announced in the community section of the channel. the next f9 b9 videos are other chances to win the final two disc! the grackle, teebird, and instinct are still on the table!
Thought I recognized you then I saw the las cruces course! That was one of the courses I played the first few months playing as I was passing through NM! so cool! Hope you're well
It was literally a month after I'd gotten started playing and at the sporting goods store over there is when I bought my first premium plastic disc!! haha
Great work on this video! Thanks for giving a thorough overview of the situations each disc might be good in. I've never heard of the Grackle but that disc looked awesome!
I absolutely LOVE my Instincts. I use the neo Instinct as my straight do everything fairway, and the forge if it's winder or I need a little more flex.
@Desert Trek Media I started with the innova made fd2's. I chose the Instinct over them because of the added glide. I think the fd1 with be a bit dumper like the Glory, but who knows.
I'm a year late to the party, but I'll chime in with my input. An Opto-X Explorer would fit better for forehand since it is more stable. With the Teebird, I would say a Star, G-Star, or DX would fill the other roles. Honestly, with the different plastic options between the Explorer and Teebird, I would go with either of those. Both should be easy to find at most retailers, either new or used. As far as cost goes when buying new, Teebird seems to be cheaper than the Explorer.
That is 100% what I tend to do with my more beat in firebird, and now that you’re saying it about the glory I’m starting to think I should have kept and bagged it lol.
@@deserttrekmedia I bag a 2020 Tour Series Hailey King Stalker, but also have an ESP. I love ESP plastic. Cheating Lefty on UA-cam has great reviews of Discraft discs!
Great video. I recommend the Leopard3, drift, FD, hatchet, and crave. These will be a bit more straight and finish straighter. Easier to throw I’d believe as well.
I am a big fan of teebird sincei t's been one of my first starting disc when I started about 2 summers ago :) Never heard of explore or instinct before and love the information about these disc! Might have to check them out for christmas
@@jdlburg938 that makes sense. I was just telling someone that I liked the way they fly, I just felt like they were too stiff for me. The c line metal flake plastic feels way softer. I bet the FD would be good in that plastic.
Low Ceiling - Explorer or Instinct Swing Hyzer - Teebird or Explorer Turnover Hold - Explorer Long Low Ceiling Tunnel - instinct Forehand - Teebird or Glory Torque - Teebird or Glory Teebird it appears would fit most for me.
Love the forged instinct cause instinct is my go to disc plus i have the pink and green so thats the last one i need in my collection. But both the grackle and the teebird look great. And the teebird has the same flight numbers as a instinct and I know numbers can be different from company to company but figured it would be almost the same since Inova made discmania disks at one point.
I have been looking to fill this exact slot myself so this video was huge for me so thank you!! I really like the instinct that's what I would pick if I was you but I do like the teebird as well. You may want to try a teebird in another plastic because if memory serves me correctly the metal flake is the most oberstable plastic
@@brettmchan2855 You'll have to let me know which one you end up using. people are always looking for straight flyers and it would be good to know if you find one you think works well!
@Desert Trek Media right now I have a older beat up plasma servo that I do really like but any sort of wind and I am in trouble. I have a discmania mystery box coming and maybe I'll get a c line fd or an instinct in there. If I find that perfect disc I'll let everyone know!!! For the woods I love the clash disc soda it's a 7, 5, -2, 1. It's not as understable as you may think but man it's a great disc for the woods!!!
I like these videos of yours! Perhaps take the time to redo throws you failed with so that we can se a fair comparison for each throw? And also, I think the Explorer is a great forehand disc, perhaps not for max power/distance throws, but for long approach forehands etc. its gold (no pun intendent 😉)
I have a NEO and forge Instinct. I love them. Forge is a hair more stable, stronger finish. If I could only okay with two discs, it would be an Instinct and a putter.
I'd love to try the glory after watching this. I throw an Explorer as my stable fairway and a Firebird as my overstable, but lately I've felt I need something between those, and the Glory seems like it would do that
The Glory is excellent in that slot. The latest run of Emerson Keith Opto-X Explorers are also a good option. I have a flat top EK Explorer that is stiffer and has a slightly higher parting line that fills this slot for me
@@alexanderwang5991 Yeah, I am sending one to a guy in Denmark this week from the Tucson video. lol but I couldn't do like 3 or 4 in a row so as long as you're not back to back with another European winner then it should be fine!
I had a river when I wasn't very good at angle control so I could never have it hold the line I wanted, but I'd bet it's a sweet disc. how does it fly for you?
@Desert Trek Media My family and I have only recently started playing, so we're still learning and trying discs. I can get the River to flip and keep its full shape, but only get it 230-280ft. Previous shoulder injury holds back from pushing anything much further.
@@PaulDavisTantarian oh dang, what happened on the shoulder? I had some problems from baseball in the front, but I don't feel it too much with disc golf.
I bag 2 diffefent Explorers (recycled and opto ice) which is less and more stable than gold aswell as a glory for low shots around corners and straight forehands
Yeah, before I threw discmania the explorer was the go to and still would be if I didn't like throwing mainly one brand (it's a me problem lol). But throwing that Gold Explorer reminded me how awesome they are!
Really good showcase of each discs strengths. I switched from the teebird to the instinct about a year ago and haven't looked back. Where would you put the discmania FD? I've been loving the new c line since the neo plastic beats in a bit quicker. A c line instinct would be perfect for me.
I felt really similar about the NEO plastic. Mine would beat in pretty quick too so I kept a Meta instinct that stayed a bit more stable than a beat in NEO plastic. I really liked the stability of the C-line, but for some reason both C-line FDs I had were super stiff which I didn't particularly like. I will try to snag a less stiff one and try it out!
@@deserttrekmedia I just got a metal flake c line FD, and it's way softer. Same as the mind bender plastic. It feels so much better imo. I also love the meta, I have a year old zen essence in meta and it's just beat in to what a neo starts at.
@@mindlander dude yes. I wonder why the metal flake is softer. I bet the DD3 and FD would feel so good in metal flake c line. they are good at holding out long enough to make me want it more lol
Gold explorer I have an explorer and instinct I like them both. I really don’t like over stable disc. Mostly because everything is a bit over stable for me so those last 3 would be very over stable . I know sometimes you need that over stable disc I bag a slammer and felon for those approach shots or scramble
For real. The overstable ones were hard to learn with (then I learned they are bad to learn with lol). And yeah those two were hard to beat in my mind. I heard Felon's were sweet!
I have a teebird, love-hate so far. To be honest, wouldn’t forehand a fairway driver, but other than that, the explorer and the glory would be my picks.
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Thank you guys a bunch for the input and for watching! Loved getting to look through these and reply to y'all. the winner is announced in the community section of the channel. the next f9 b9 videos are other chances to win the final two disc! the grackle, teebird, and instinct are still on the table!
Thought I recognized you then I saw the las cruces course! That was one of the courses I played the first few months playing as I was passing through NM! so cool! Hope you're well
Haha what??? were just passing through? When was that??? That's sweet that you were here man! Did you have the van at that time?
@@deserttrekmedia yeah it was back in February!
It was literally a month after I'd gotten started playing and at the sporting goods store over there is when I bought my first premium plastic disc!! haha
Great work on this video! Thanks for giving a thorough overview of the situations each disc might be good in. I've never heard of the Grackle but that disc looked awesome!
Dude, thank you! I appreciate it! The mint plastic is sweet, I just don’t throw it. Lol
I’ve heard good things of the grackle and have wanted to try and bag one.
Yeah, after throwing it I definitely liked how confident I felt throwing it. I'm curious if there are more under stable versions.
I absolutely LOVE my Instincts. I use the neo Instinct as my straight do everything fairway, and the forge if it's winder or I need a little more flex.
I do too. It really is so nice even for big distance shots too. I’m curious how the fd1 is going to compare to it!
@Desert Trek Media I started with the innova made fd2's. I chose the Instinct over them because of the added glide. I think the fd1 with be a bit dumper like the Glory, but who knows.
I'm a year late to the party, but I'll chime in with my input. An Opto-X Explorer would fit better for forehand since it is more stable. With the Teebird, I would say a Star, G-Star, or DX would fill the other roles. Honestly, with the different plastic options between the Explorer and Teebird, I would go with either of those. Both should be easy to find at most retailers, either new or used. As far as cost goes when buying new, Teebird seems to be cheaper than the Explorer.
Dude yes. The variety of plastic between those two molds alone can fill so many spots someone would need.
That glory looks great I tend to release with a little anhyzer angle so something stable and good for forehands like that could be sweet! Great video!
That is 100% what I tend to do with my more beat in firebird, and now that you’re saying it about the glory I’m starting to think I should have kept and bagged it lol.
My favorite stable fairway of all time is the Discraft Stalker. Perfect shape stable to slightly overstable. Perfect 😎
Done. I’m gonna have to get one and try it out against the bear!
What plastic is best?
@@deserttrekmedia I bag a 2020 Tour Series Hailey King Stalker, but also have an ESP. I love ESP plastic. Cheating Lefty on UA-cam has great reviews of Discraft discs!
@@joshuawaddell6640 those tour series discs look like this feel real nice. are you a fan of Z plastic?
I love the comparison videos like this. I have a noodle arm and this is about the fastest disc speed(7-8) I can get up to speed.
I don't think many of us need more than 9 speed anyway so these are great discs to know what you like! what disc do you go to for distance?
Great video. I recommend the Leopard3, drift, FD, hatchet, and crave. These will be a bit more straight and finish straighter. Easier to throw I’d believe as well.
Done. I'll work on getting those in a video! haven't thrown a lot of those!
I am a big fan of teebird sincei t's been one of my first starting disc when I started about 2 summers ago :) Never heard of explore or instinct before and love the information about these disc! Might have to check them out for christmas
Yeah, I know guys that can bomb and have loved the teebird since they started. Seems to be the OG straight fairway to beat!
I bag a teebird right now and its one of my most used discs in my bag once they are beat in they are money.
That is probably where they beat the instinct too! A beat in NEO instinct is a bit flippy for me after that.
Love my Grackle!
They feel super sweet. good looking discs that ALSO fly well make it hard to want to stick with what you have.
I haven't tried the Explorer. That could meet my needs pretty well.
What straight fairway do you bag?
Right now I reach for one of the new runs of the Discmania FD
@@jdlburg938 that makes sense. I was just telling someone that I liked the way they fly, I just felt like they were too stiff for me. The c line metal flake plastic feels way softer. I bet the FD would be good in that plastic.
Straightest flyer i have found after years of throwing sub 8 speed discs is the legacy pinnacle patriot
Oh heck yes!! I’ve never even heard of it! I’ll have to check it out.
Low Ceiling - Explorer or Instinct
Swing Hyzer - Teebird or Explorer
Turnover Hold - Explorer
Long Low Ceiling Tunnel - instinct
Forehand - Teebird or Glory
Torque - Teebird or Glory
Teebird it appears would fit most for me.
Yeah if I wasn't set on discmania I would say the same about the teebird and grackle!
@@deserttrekmedia FDs also are one of the best fairways out there
@@ChadSolberg which one do. you bag?
@@deserttrekmedia I bag a teebird I use to also bag an explorer but i dont have backups atm so its in my practice bag
I would definitely like to give the grackle or teebird a try because I primarily throw forehand.
yeah you do!
Love the forged instinct cause instinct is my go to disc plus i have the pink and green so thats the last one i need in my collection. But both the grackle and the teebird look great. And the teebird has the same flight numbers as a instinct and I know numbers can be different from company to company but figured it would be almost the same since Inova made discmania disks at one point.
I have been looking to fill this exact slot myself so this video was huge for me so thank you!! I really like the instinct that's what I would pick if I was you but I do like the teebird as well. You may want to try a teebird in another plastic because if memory serves me correctly the metal flake is the most oberstable plastic
That makes a lot of sense. I had a G star teebird early on and it was not that stable. I bet a regular star tee bird would be the sweet spot!
@@deserttrekmedia that is exactly what I was thinking
@@brettmchan2855 You'll have to let me know which one you end up using. people are always looking for straight flyers and it would be good to know if you find one you think works well!
@Desert Trek Media right now I have a older beat up plasma servo that I do really like but any sort of wind and I am in trouble. I have a discmania mystery box coming and maybe I'll get a c line fd or an instinct in there. If I find that perfect disc I'll let everyone know!!! For the woods I love the clash disc soda it's a 7, 5, -2, 1. It's not as understable as you may think but man it's a great disc for the woods!!!
Yo yo! I’ll do the drawing on day 7 once I know which two are gone from the Tucson F9/B9 videos!
Always wanted to try the forged instinct. I currently bag 2 explorer's and want to see how the instinct compares. Thanks for the review!
Heck yeah! I hope you get it bro! I love the instinct.
It's in my bag
I like these videos of yours! Perhaps take the time to redo throws you failed with so that we can se a fair comparison for each throw?
And also, I think the Explorer is a great forehand disc, perhaps not for max power/distance throws, but for long approach forehands etc. its gold (no pun intendent 😉)
Haha yeah for sure. I’ve started doing that unless they are suuupperrr long throws and I mess up twice lol I’m just huffin by the third throw
Being in Texas I have to say the grackle. Another one to maybe add to this comparison is the evader. I want to try out the burst ones
Heck yes. Done. Stalker, evader, bear. All ones I missed
I have a NEO and forge Instinct. I love them. Forge is a hair more stable, stronger finish. If I could only okay with two discs, it would be an Instinct and a putter.
For real. The instinct can handle a lot. Holding lines, lots of torque, straight shots. A good straight fairway is a gem!
I'd love to try the glory after watching this. I throw an Explorer as my stable fairway and a Firebird as my overstable, but lately I've felt I need something between those, and the Glory seems like it would do that
for real. that's what I was thinking. It doesn't dump like a firebird, but definitely not as straight carrying like the explorer you have!
The Glory is excellent in that slot. The latest run of Emerson Keith Opto-X Explorers are also a good option. I have a flat top EK Explorer that is stiffer and has a slightly higher parting line that fills this slot for me
Would love to try the Explorer!
Dude, so far it’s still available! Only the glory is gone!
Big fan of the Teebird, feels like it’s very reliable in many situations. Not sure about the metal flaske version though. Very informative video!
I agree. The teebird would definitely be the stable one I would bag. And thanks man!
@@deserttrekmedia I just need to ask one quick question. Is it even possible for me to win a giveaway living in Norway and not the US?
@@alexanderwang5991 Yeah, I am sending one to a guy in Denmark this week from the Tucson video. lol but I couldn't do like 3 or 4 in a row so as long as you're not back to back with another European winner then it should be fine!
I haven't thrown an Explorer yet, it's on the short list to try. I really do like the Opto River I recently picked up though!
I had a river when I wasn't very good at angle control so I could never have it hold the line I wanted, but I'd bet it's a sweet disc. how does it fly for you?
@Desert Trek Media My family and I have only recently started playing, so we're still learning and trying discs. I can get the River to flip and keep its full shape, but only get it 230-280ft. Previous shoulder injury holds back from pushing anything much further.
@@PaulDavisTantarian oh dang, what happened on the shoulder? I had some problems from baseball in the front, but I don't feel it too much with disc golf.
@Desert Trek Media Work injury, torn rotator cuff of the dominant arm. 50/50 chance of successful surgery, opted to not roll those dice.
I bag 2 diffefent Explorers (recycled and opto ice) which is less and more stable than gold aswell as a glory for low shots around corners and straight forehands
is the Opto ice pretty nice? They also look good, but had no idea how they flew!
@@deserttrekmedia the opto ice is more stable than The gold, fit it inbetween The gold explorer and The glory
I heard that the Explorer is the better discs. I would love to try it myself.
Yeah, before I threw discmania the explorer was the go to and still would be if I didn't like throwing mainly one brand (it's a me problem lol). But throwing that Gold Explorer reminded me how awesome they are!
Really good showcase of each discs strengths. I switched from the teebird to the instinct about a year ago and haven't looked back. Where would you put the discmania FD? I've been loving the new c line since the neo plastic beats in a bit quicker. A c line instinct would be perfect for me.
I felt really similar about the NEO plastic. Mine would beat in pretty quick too so I kept a Meta instinct that stayed a bit more stable than a beat in NEO plastic. I really liked the stability of the C-line, but for some reason both C-line FDs I had were super stiff which I didn't particularly like. I will try to snag a less stiff one and try it out!
@@deserttrekmedia I just got a metal flake c line FD, and it's way softer. Same as the mind bender plastic. It feels so much better imo. I also love the meta, I have a year old zen essence in meta and it's just beat in to what a neo starts at.
@@mindlander dude yes. I wonder why the metal flake is softer. I bet the DD3 and FD would feel so good in metal flake c line. they are good at holding out long enough to make me want it more lol
Og tee bird 🦅.. hear good things about the grackle also
I can never get a teebird lover to love anything else. They just seem so good!
Gold explorer I have an explorer and instinct I like them both. I really don’t like over stable disc. Mostly because everything is a bit over stable for me so those last 3 would be very over stable . I know sometimes you need that over stable disc I bag a slammer and felon for those approach shots or scramble
For real. The overstable ones were hard to learn with (then I learned they are bad to learn with lol). And yeah those two were hard to beat in my mind. I heard Felon's were sweet!
It would have to be the tee-bird for me. For my playing style I wouldn’t think twice to add it to my bag.
Haha dang if you know you know. It seems like anyone that knows the teebird would never go away from it!
I have a teebird, love-hate so far.
To be honest, wouldn’t forehand a fairway driver, but other than that, the explorer and the glory would be my picks.
Haha what's the hate part for you? And how come you couldn't see yourself forehanding one?
Grackel looks nice for forehand. Glory looks like a good utility disc
The grackle would definitely be my overstable choice if I did a mixed bag! The plastic felt good too!
I like to throw the Explorer on a flat release.
And it does turn over on you much? also, check the F9 Tucson video! you ended up winning the drawing!
@Desert Trek Media not really but I've got a slow arm speed. Wow awesome!
Explorer & glory combo for me
Yes for sure. If I was going trilogy that’s how I’d go too. The glory felt so reliable.
no tl3?
Not for that one. But I did just throw one recently and totally saw why people love that disc!