How The 04 Detroit Pistons Became The NBA Super Team!
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- Опубліковано 15 січ 2023
- The 2004 NBA season was one of the craziest of all time. Big Ben, Mask-On, Mr. Big Shot, Rasheed & Prince did the unthinkable, becoming the kings of the NBA season. The Detroit Pistons that year were complete underdogs and had no business in the NBA Finals.
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Watch as the 04 Detroit Pistons became the NBA Super Team! In this video, we'll take you on a journey from the lowpoint of the team to their incredible turnaround, culminating in their victory in the NBA Finals.
From the depression of the early 2000s to the resurgence of the Detroit Pistons, this is the story of one of the most unlikely NBA Super Teams ever! Learn about the players, the coaches, and the team chemistry that allowed them to achieve glory!
Big Ben was an image of true DPOY, not just stats farming, but a real defensive general on the court.
Detroit Pistons '04 squad - GOATED 🐐
Probably the most balance team I have seen. Zero superstars but all became allstars. Great defense!
Prince wasn't an all star
@@razkable your right they had 4 that year and he was the one left off.
@@razkable Prince is a megastar, he is up there with Michael Jackson, Nat King Cole, and Freddie Mercury lol =D
the better a player then PROBABLY the higher the popularity and ben wallace made 4 all star teams in 9 years
He said superstars not all stars lol. They had a crazy lineup ! But the defense is what set them apart!! U just don't see effort like that anymore.
Tayshaun Prince is easily one of the most underrated players in NBA history
Damn right
Also billup
Shit was crazy when he chase down blocked Reggie miller
His offense was pretty terrible in the playoffs though and his nba finals stats suck as a scorer. His rebounding, passing was that good either. His defense on the other hand should probably be compared to the likes of even pippen, Bowen and Tony allen. Rasheed’s defense too should be compared to rodman, Duncan, kg peak
This was the sweetest summer of my life. It was the end of my freshman year & EVERYBODY said Detroit was gonna lose so when The Pistons smashed L.A. in game 1 & then game 3 & game 4, it was crickets
I was a sophomore in speech class that year, and when they got Rasheed. I made my final speech about how the Pistons we’re going to win the championship.
I was 21. It was a good summer. I watched 81 outta 82 reg season games that year. The only 1 I missed was a late winter meeting with the clippers at l.a. watched all 23 playoff games. Them coming back against New Jersey was their biggest obstacle looking back. They won the 1st 2 games them got whooped 2 straight then lost in triple overtime at the palace in game 5 them the nets started game 6 up 13-2. Man that game 6 going down the wire was tense. Game 7 was never in doubt even tho new jersey started out strong the pistons held them to a point under 70 and won by 21. That defensive unit was the best in modern day nba history. The great pistons teams throughout the teams history have always won games on the defensive side. Ask Michael Jordan and the late great Black Mamba Mr Kobe Bean Bryant!
The pistons lost game one of those finals....do your research first
@@chasemichaels5083 By sheer luck of The Lakers. Had Rip Hamilton played closer defense on Kobe Bryant & contested that 3-pointer, The Lakers would've gotten swept.
@@chasemichaels5083 do yours dude game 1 2004 nba finals pistons 87-75 lakers!!!!!! Pistons won in 5 games & lost in game 2 in overtime after a bs call that Shaq converted into a 3 point play then mamba came down and drilled a 3 to send it into OT the pistons were up 6 in the final minute of that game and the refs let the fakers back in the game. The Pistons were the 1st team to win all 3 home games in nba history in the old 2-3-2 format. Miami did the same in 06' vs dallas. That's why they changed the finals format. Dude I wrote Wikipedia. Lol I'm not trying to be a douche just need to edamacate peeplez
Superteam with no superstar is hard to beat
That’s just a good team!
@@yoshikay8787 yeah the term superteam is being overused there were no allstar but ben wallace when they won chip and he wasnt even a scorer.
2003 SAS and 2004 DTP... Oh man so many good memories...
beating the stacked lakers was impressive. But equally impressive to me was the from 2003-08 the pistons made the conference finals or better every season with 2 finals appearances and 1 victory
Yep, taking out AI's 76ers and the Wade-Shaq Heat were other fun highlights of that stretch.
Much as I love the Title they brought home, that spurs loss the very next year still hurts like hell. One inbound pass away..........🙃
Same here Im still hurting from that
One of the best defensive teams of all time. You know ya defense is top shelf when you win scoring 80 points in a time where teams were scoring a 100 points
Actually, the offense League wide was down. Only two teams averaged more than a 100 a game. One of my least favorite eras
@@peterosesbooky wonderful
@@peterosesbooky u must be a little younger lol. Us older guys love the low scoring defensive basketball ball games. But ur right! Was looking at the stats about how good det was defensively. Only giving up 83 pts a game. SA was tied with them and there was a lot of teams that were only giving up pts in the 80s that year. We'll probably never see that again!
The greatest*
Back in those days defense could win the title. Pistons were largely the reason the nba rules changed
I miss defense😢
I remember this as a kid. Kept thinking why are they so good.
The teal jerseys were not awful. Honestly some of the best looking jerseys ever in my opinion
they are literally regarded as one of the best jerseys ever idk what that guy is talking abt
We're you guys alive when they changed to the teal??. It was a huge deal and widely hated by everyone.
kinda liked the tel jerseys also, i was already alive back then. lol
Time has been kind to them.
@@sniffer6285 People always cry about change. They looked dope.
I love this 04 Pistons and the 2011 Mavs.
I had no idea Chauncey Billups is not a hall of fame. You beat the lakers with shaq and kobe that is a feat in itself
I love Chauncey Billups, but i agreed with Chauncey not being in the hall of fame. Its called the Hall of Fame not Hall of very good players. Its up for debate. I don't even think he was the best player in that Detroit championship team. It was Ben Wallace, and Wallace IS in the Hall of Fame for a reason.
@@kouvue7843 its just going to be a while before he gets in hall of fame
@@kouvue7843LMFAO. Ben Wallace averaged 5PPG for his career compared to Chauncey dominating the lakers, and won Finals MVP.
@@LALakers4life34 Wallace was how they won that finals with the work he did on Shaq. Also Wallace is one of the best defenders ever. That’s like saying Dennis Rodman doesn’t deserve to be in the hall of fame. Points aren’t everything.
@@deadprecidents
Ur 100% correct his defense turned this team around. Where his offensive scoring sucked, he made up for ten fold with everything else. He was a great passer and understood spacing, even without a jumpshot. On defense, let's just say the NBA was lucky he was only 6'9
One of the most memorable teams ever.
Ben Wallace my FMVP but that team was so great
Great video... except for a detail regarding Rasheed Wallace. He didn't join the Pistons until around the All-star break in 04. Brown's Pistons had great potential but were up and down and missing a piece. Once 'Sheed joined, the Pistons went on a tear over the second half of the season. I had a buddy who was a huge Laker fan and was boasting about their loaded roster with Shaq, Kobe, Karl Malone, Gary Payton... but kept telling him "You can't sleep on the Pistons. They've been dominating since the All-star break" and it was so incredible to watch that group of players that other teams had written off begin to gel and play such incredible team ball. Without a doubt, my favorite post-Jordan basketball season. "Ball Don't Lie!!!"
Lol dont forget the kobe and shaq fued. Look at the east semi finals. 4 3. The nets who cant beat l.a when the lakers dont have feud. Now in finals the pistons took the pacers in 6. Do u think without the feud and kobe will pass the ball to shaq they can only beat the pistons only 1 game? In west semis the lakers beat the spurs easily. But in 2005 the spurs beat the pistons who the lakers beat easily in west semis? The same roster and team the spurs who beat the pistons in 05. But when shaq and wade are healthy and have the supporting cast they beat the pistons also in 06. Do you think wade and shaq in 06 are better than kobe and shaq in 06? If they dont have a feud? If only kobe dont have an ego and prove that hes the best in the world. He and shaq could win the 04 05 and 06 and 07 if they stay together. They can beat the pistons. In 05 they can beat the spurs and pistons with same line.up. in 06 they can beat the dallas,pistons and spurs. If wade and shaq can do it. Definitely kobe and shaq. In 07 this is the year were shaq has declined but kobe is in hes prime. They can definitely beat the Spurs and definitely the cavs. But enough what ifs. If the pistons were. So great. Why cant they beat the spurs? In 05. Why cant they beat the heat in 06? Why cant they beat the cavs with only 1 man show lebron james and the pistons are all stars. And why cant they beat the big 3 celtics in 08? Remember pistons have all stars and chemistry. The fact they cant beat the true all stars in the game. The pistons 04 are now forgotten. And their championship in 04 has an asterisk on it.
That team was the epitome of team unity.
Ben Wallace is a monster defender and rebounder.
That Bad Boys II team shocked the world! They were like a bunch of undercover superheroes that joined forces to save the world!
I'm a lakers fan and this final Lakers vs pistons was devastating. I even cried
Detroit boy until forever
I was 14 when this happen
I was so proud
My favorite team EVER!
DETROIT 🏀
Corliss Williamson wasn't mentioned, I think he won the 6th man of the year.
It was actually 2002 when he won
@@thomaslin8273 thanks man, I don't mind being corrected.
@@thomaslin8273 He also won it in 2004. The Rasheed trade happened mid-season. Decent video here but not totally accurate.
Don’t forget Elden Campbell who did a good job defending Shaq, who was his former teammate at LA
@@jeffreycahill3995he didn't win it twice
Probably the best defensive team should of won more then 1 ring took the spurs to 7 in the finals the next year but dumars really dropped the ball not drafting melo over darko
I often think about this but, I think the pressure to put the talented young Melo into the starting lineup at guard or forward could have jacked up the team's unique chemistry during the 04-05 seasons. The Pistons really did need a capable big man around the '03 draft so I think the reasoning was sound even if the player was obviously wrong. They got very fortunate to pickup up Rasheed during the season. The failure of the '03 draft really became apparent after Ben Wallace left following the '06 season despite the noble efforts of Anthony McDyess filling in the gap. Seems reasonable that Melo would have been the Pistons' #2 draft choice after Darko, but I do like to imagine what a Pistons team led by D.Wade or Chris Bosh might have been like.
Idk Melo was known to never play defense or lead any of his teams to the finals 🤷🏽♂️
Melo might've been a different player had he come to a veteran Pistons team. He could've also blown the whole thing up.
Melo wouldn't have worked in their system but anybody would have been better than Darko
If they drafted Melo they may not have even made it to the finals. The chemistry of the team would've been completely off. Melo is a superstar and the point of this entire video is we didnt need a superstar.
I will always remember these guys as the best I've ever seen, personally of course. Only thing next to it is the Spurs. These guys are the reason I believe in teamwork
I remember someone saying this was a team without a star but this was the first season I really started watching basketball and as a lakers fan this piston team were stars
The wallaces were behemoths at defense and hustle
They won this the year after my senior year of HS. It was the first team I ever watched from start of the season to the end of the season that won a championship. I've always been a UK basketball fan, but I didn't really start watching any sports until Tayshaun Prince's first year of college, so I don't remember much about the 96, or 98 championship teams. I didn't really have an nba team, I just hated the lakers because I thought they were arrogant, so initially I followed the NJN just because they were a finals team playing against the lakers, but then I developed a man crush on BW in the ECF the NJN played against them the next year. That year BW was an absolute animal with crazy defensive stats, and was changing games with defense alone. I still remember BW having a reverse jam when three NJN defenders were holding onto him to try and stop him from getting the bucket and he was just too strong. Just flat footed yammed it down on all three of them. When Tayshaun was drafted by them, they became my favorite team.
It was a kind of crazy feeling. Everybody wrote them off because it was the Lakers. It would've been a sweep had Kobe not caught fire in the second game. I honestly think that the championship series that year was between Indiana and the Pistons and that Indiana would've beat the Lakers as well because they were injured and dysfunctional.
The main thing though was the game 5 loss in the finals the next year against San An. That kept this Pistons team from being remembered as an all time great team because they only have a championship ring, and two ECF victories. They made the ECF multiple times after that, but they got old in a hurry. They win that game, I think they win the series. Robert fricking Horry man.
I disagree that they had no superstars though. BW is a HOF player with numerous top fifty all time defensive stats, and CB has been nominated for the HOF since 2018 and will eventually get in.
Keep up the great content man this video was great
"...was interested in a trade to Orlando, however Detroit agreed to trade him to the Magic instead."
🤣
Thats like saying he wanted to play in sunny southern Cali and got traded to the Lakers instead.
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one like what, he thought he did something
i. think it means instead of letting Hill walk they traded him
@@night6724 I dunno. The way he said that he emphasized "the Magic" not "trade" so Im not so sure.
This team was a super team . Defensively one of the best teams ever. We’re so accustomed to focusing on the offensive side.
A superteam is stacked with all star talent and have a superstar, the pistons werent a super team
And now Chauncey and ben are hall of fame players team was goated glad I got to see them growing up here in Detroit this team was special to us
They won because they we're a TEAM.....they all knew their roles n it paid off
Man this was the last team I actually watched every damn game and loved every sec of it !!!! A few years after with stuckey , but it was insane watching this squad grow and GO !!!! BASKETBALL JUST ISNT THE SAME NO MORE !!!! Bunch of baby's and floppers ,, I mean Labron just kills it for me lolol
What a great video!! Idk how or y this showed up on my feed but it's incredible!! I been a Piston fan since the bad boys of the late 80s. That 2004 team was the bad boy reincarnated!! Everyone played a role and played team basketball. Most importantly, really took pride in playing defense! When is the last time u see a team held to 65 pts in the playoffs. Not once like it was some kind of fluke, but twice in a row! Then to hold the Lakers to 68 in the finals was ridiculous!! That's team was no joke! Would've matched up well against the best teams in history IMO.
Everyone says that this team have zero superstar, but to be honest Big Ben was a superstar. It might not be as flashy as other superstars in the history, but his impact on the court was absurd. Just by being on the floor makes other player doubt if they can make a shot or not, that psychological effect can't be taught or something you can train yourself over your career. It's either you have it in you or not.
This team will always have a special place in my heart. What an all around complete and cohesive team.
Great vid new sub 👍🏾
One of the best teams I have seen
i was so lucky to witness this unfolds during my highschool yrs. Always a dehadista...
I haven't been emotionally invested in a team since this one.....the fall was heart breaking lol torturous.
Yea it was 🤦🏾♂️
Imagine if Big Ben had stayed in Detroit in 06-07.
Yea they'd of swept Cleveland and gave sanantonio all they could handle in the finals.A rematch with the spurs would have lit a 🔥 underneath them. Sanantonio wouldn't of broke 90 points once against that defensive unit. The pistons were robbed of a title in 05 they were the better defensive team compared to Tim Duncan's spurs and things woulda turned out different in the rematch. Can't believe dumars let Ben go to Chicago that 06 off-season it was for a measly 13 million to. Detroit offered him 47$M to stay and Chicago offered him 60$M to leave Detroit. Had dumars drafted melo in 03 and resigned Wallace in 06 that pistons team woulda been a dynasty
Imagine melo @ the starting 3 sheed and clockwork up front with rip and big shot rounding out the starting 5 with tayshaun mcdyess Lindsey hunter and Mike James to give opposing guards fits on defense. That unit woulda 3 peated to go with the 04 ship as well. I honestly believed in those days the pistons were destined to become the next nba dynasty after they whooped the fakers in 04. It was tough to watch it all fall apart within 5 seasons. I'll never 4get the look on sheeds face in game 4 of the 09 ecfr 1-8 matchup when he walked to the bench for his last game as a piston. He looked beyond himself like (what just happened?) He looked enraged at getting swept by rival Cleveland at home. U could just see the deep frustration of all the minutes he logged as a piston just to watch it crumble in front of him. He was very disturbed when joe dumars traded Chauncey away for Iverson after they started 4-0 that 08-09 season. So many what ifs during that era of pistons basketball.
LeBron was feasting on the paint against the pistons when Ben left
@@ajye8935 30 straight to end game 5 and 48 for the whole game. I was crushed and game 5 and 6 against Boston the next years ecfs hurt even more. I'm a die hard pistons fan I lived that era of pistons basketball both on satellite and in person several times. I'm just happy my old pistons crew beat the fakers in 04 but we were robbed in the following seasons finals vs sanantonio
@@jareddavidmanifold313 I love the pistons history man I think Big Ben is the first undrafted guy to be a cover of a 2k game.
I remember those years when the lakers have allstar lineup with Karl Malone and Gary Payton so I really thought that there's nothing can beat this team now until they beaten by the underdogs no superstars pistons. Man I cannot believed that until now. It maybe some factors like Malone and payton are got old and the relationship between the lakers and shaq turned down at that time really contributed to their lose. And the rest is history. Shaq left the lakers, kobe left hanging, and malone retired without champioship :(
Thanks to this man you turned back the memories :) moving forward on your future videos :)
One of my favorite teams
HANDS DOWN BEST DEFENSE I HAVE EVER SEEN IN BASKETBALL...NASTY
Great Video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Ben Wallace is an hall of famer and a 4x nba defensive player of the year
Dope story
And they were so close to winning two in a row. I loved this team and I am a Bulls fan. But we have to note Malone wasn't there in the finals, which was a massive hit to the Lakers. I still think the Pistons win, but they lost their third best player.
Good video should have atleast 100k subs
Wow, thanks!
more videos, keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
I loved those teal jerseys
These Pistons teams were really good and one of the greatest defensive teams ever. Ben Wallace was a force and adding Rasheed Wallace just made them so much stronger. Prince was such a hard and tough player coming out the gate and Billups and Rip Hamilton made for a dynamic back court. If they would of hit on that 2nd overall pick then this team could of won another title or two especially if they would of drafted Wade or Carmelo. They were a force for awhile,making the conference finals and the NBA Finals regularly. I was stunned when they destroyed the Lakers in the finals but was glad Brown finally won a title as a coach.
for me, the best underrated champs that I was able to watch.
How would you see them match up with the champs of today??
Total team effort
My favorite team
Ben Wallace has some insanely long arms.
What an amazing Wizards team!
Pistons, not wizards
2004 piston starter 5 is the best line up every.
Joe Dumars simply knew how to build a roster that was only about team and winning.
Yea... But after 2005 he forget how to do this...
if only he knew how to draft...🤣
Nah, Then after that what happened?
@@kennethpage417 Pretty much the same roster made the finals one more time against the Spurs and made the conference finals a few times aswell.
The teal jerseys I like the most out of all nba jerseys
Epic
Yo this is classic pistons shock 🤯 the world 🌍 nobody didn't expect that.and Shaq get block and break him down it's was over 😳
Everybody know that was a foul 🤣
This is true. Mahorn deserves credit.
All played their roles..
Imagine if they drafted Melo
The "Workforce" Pistons: The "Ocean's Eleven" of the NBA.
No stars no hoopla these guys I think proved the theory of teamwork winning
This was in the era before UA-cam and not a lot of camera film technology so if you were tryna make it in the NBA you needed footage. Nowadays with cameras everywhere it makes it easier to scout
Teamwork and defense.
The 00s Pistons were a dynasty lowkey tbh
Stop having those jerseys were 🔥 🔥🔥
Keeping a team that has shaq, kobe, Malone, and Payton to 68 pts is insane! I guarantee thats why the league nerfed the defensive options
I wish the Pistons had won in '05 too, but...they ran in to a Spurs team that was just as good as they were defensively and slightly better offensively...
"If it ain't rough, it ain't right."
holding teams to less than 70 is crazh
Might be the most Fundamental team of all time. Proof that you can win a chip with no superstars if the chemistry is there
I remember that NOBODY picked Detroit to be Kobe, Shaq and the Lakers in the finals. Detroit dominated them.
Bad boys 4life☝️🤣🏆
the passing from chauncey billups didn't equal the rebounding from ben wallace so the 04 finals finals mvp should've been awarded to ben wallace
Within the 5 years spanning from 1994-99, the Washington Wizards drafted 3 of the 5 Pistons starters, 2 of them actually drafted technically to the Bullets. Ironically before Chauncey Billups found a place to call home in Detroit, seemed like he'd played virtually any and everywhere except Washington. Prince, neither drafted by Washington nor afforded any time to show his wild oats as a league journeyman opted to instead give Detroit a season beyond his rookie season and took a much shorter and more importantly a D.C. free road to the title.
Smart dude.
Tayshaun Prince Is My Favorite Basketball Player.
Wild to think they let go of Ben Wallace even though he fell off after he went to the hills and if he was a superstar then he really didn’t get those baby bulls past the second round and he wasn’t paid anywhere near a garnet, Duncan, shaq, yao, Dwight would have in free agency. Ben Wallace also fell puff quickly within like 2 years after signing. Still had Big Ben stayed who knows what happens.
You knew they were always gonna be a problem no matter who they were going up against
This was the peak of NBA defense system. Even more than Bull era. The defenses were that tight that after that year NBA decided to shit to modern 2k rules: no hand checking, 3p free of movement rule, ball carrying, traveling, ilegal moving screens and so on. Nowadays the game is unbalanced and not appealing. And yes, nowadays players are way more developed, but not more that Kobe Bryant on that finals.
Loved those Afro pistons.., Who looks the best with the hair?
As a bucks fan, whenever we played the pistons, I always expected the worst. I remember they smoked us by 50 in a regular season game during their runs 😅
@11:16 lowest points in finals in 15 years, did you forget the 98 Bulls holding Utah to 54 points
That Afro on Larry Brown in the thumbnail 😂
That thumbnail 😂😂
Detroit Pistons had won their first NBA title since 1989-90(3rd overall)
Dennis Rodman is a hall a famer btw
*A SUPERTEAM IS A TEAM THAT IS GOOD ENOUGH TO COMPETE FOR A TITLE (NOT NECESSARILY THE FINALS, BUT AT LEAST A TOUGH 6- OR 7-GAME CONFERENCE FINALS SERIES AND THE 6TH GAME DOESN'T END IN A BLOWOUT) AND THERE IS AT LEAST ONE MAJOR COMPONENT ADDED TO THAT ROSTER (EITHER A GREAT ROLE PLAYER THAT IS IRREPLACEABLE- MORE THAN LIKELY A FUTURE HALL OF FAMER, A MID-LEVEL STAR OR BETTER, A SUPERSTAR THAT WAS LEADER OF HIS/HER OWN TEAM, OR A FUTURE HALL OF FAMER THAT CAN EITHER BE A KEY ROLE PLAYER/6TH PERSON OR SOME LEVEL OF A STAR); OR, A TEAM THAT CAN HAVE ONE OR MORE SUCH PIECES REMOVED, AND THAT TEAM IS STILL ABLE TO BE A TITLE CONTENDER!!!!*
*AT THIS POINT, A SUPERTEAM IS CONSIDERED TO BE ANY TEAM THAT LEBRON JAMES/WILT CHAMBERLAIN/ANY OTHER UNLIKABLE PLAYER PLAYED FOR, THAT JAMES HARDEN LED (SO THIS MEANS NOT OKC, BCUS PPL HAVE TO PROTECT KD's LEGACY IN ORDER TO TARNISH LEBRON's AND INFLATE JORDAN's), AND THE DEFINITION OF A SUPERTEAM IS ALSO CONSIDERED, BY MANY, TO DISQUALIFY ANY TEAM THAT THE FOLLOWING PLAYERS PLAYED FOR: OVERRATED JORDAN, LARRY BIRD, STEPH, KOBE, MAGIC, ANY WHY B0Y THAT WAS REMOTELY GOOD AND POPULAR INCLUDING TIM DUNCAN, KAWHI, AND KD/KYRIE!!!!*
Larry Brown won his first title his very first year apart from Allen Iverson with a terrific defensive team that focused on playing ball the right way
might want to double check the pronunciation for Okur and Tayshaun lol
Have you heard about the 1998 NBA Finals?Check the 3.game...
Rip Hamilton was one of my favourites. I knew the Wizards put their foot in their mouth when they traded him for Stackhouse.
da real bad boys, 60 points for other teams
1:42 - Lets correrect this:
"And where wearing awesome uniforms with an awesome logo! But oldies from Detroit was afraid of something modern and more powerfull and complained and wined like little babies. So in 2005, they got there red basketball back so they could keep quiet and have generic logo again.