5 Album/ CD covers that are truly offensive to me. Vinyl Community...
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- It's probably a good idea to watch the video before you comment on it. Of course, that's true with any video. Here are 5 Album or CD covers that are truly offensive to me. Seriously.
im offended to hear someone say that Blizzard of Oz came out in 2002. Especially from someone who has this much music behind him. Credibility?
Congrats! Your comment is so ridiculous, I'm pinning it to the top of the comments.
It is pretty obvious he is talking about the 2002 re-release where they changed the drum and bass parts. He goes into good detail. There's no way any logical person would think he is saying the whole album came out in 2002. You're just a troll.
Maybe watch the video before you spew trash talk ...bandwagon mentality sucks
Busted!
It's pretty clear he's talking about the re-release with new tracks. He said so, as a matter of fact.
This guy used a click-baity title, then discussed things with real depth and criticism. That ain’t how click-bait is supposed to work, friend. Bravo.
I agree👍🏻
Yeah, I'm a new fan myself. No matter how many similar format channels (music) there are, I'll always take new creators that are good (To me).
Me too
Love the video. Totally not what I expected but a great take on commercial repackaging. I expected Blind Faith and was glad you tossed that out in the final few seconds. I would think the Dwarves and maybe Big Black would qualify in a different way…😂
Haha, yeah I clicked after seeing the thumbnail and expected to hear a whinge about Metal artwork. Busted.
I allllllmost commented with something like "obviously you haven't seen any Pissgrave's album covers" but decided to watch first. lol
Yeah "Lovedrive's" a bit tame compared.
But yeah, f**king the consumer is about as offensive as it gets. 100% agree with the picks.
Self busting? Now, that is awesome. Cheers man.
They did the same thing
to albums such as Monster,
Live Steppenwolf and Steppenwolf 7!
As always great clip. I don't know if the edits are really offensive in the 'cover artwork' sense, but they are INCREDIBLY f*ked up. The worst edit in Stones camp is 'Rocks Off', but it's on one of the other late era comps.
I'm just so impressed you didn't do one of those lame segments featuring 'Amorica' or "Appetite' etc etc, and then tell the back story for the 118th time
It's refreshing to see someone who's offended by what really counts -- non-existent liner notes/info. -- edited tracks in greatest hits collections -- needlessly re-recorded songs, etc. I've seen too many YT video rants about album covers that were supposedly "banned", that never really were. BTW, thanks for the info. about the editing down of 40 Licks. Didn't know about that. Almost bought it once.
I knew about it, but only because I got the chance to listen to it in a used shop. It ticked me off, and I never bought it, thank goodness!
Yes, this. Well said!
"You should have seen the cover they wanted. And it wasn't a glove, believe me" -Spinal Taps Manager
"What's wrong with being sexy?"
It’s quite lurid, really.
Yes , the great Tony Hendra as Spinal Tap's Manager Ian Faith ....RIP
Sniff The Glove
It's such a fine line between stupid and clever.
You had me fooled, but yeah removing Daisley and Kerslake from those two albums was a despicable Sharon move.
I've always been offended by compilation albums that don't mention that some of the tracks are live recordings. Don't get me wrong I love a good live recording but not awkwardly jammed into a best of.
Also one of my pet peeves. 9 times out of 10 it’s one of my favorite songs too! There are some exceptions where the live version of the song is the hit everyone knows and loves (I’m looking at you KISS, Frampton, etc). For the most part though, it frustrates me. I wonder sometimes whether it’s a licensing thing, with different versions on different record labels?
Dude, I love your Scorpion's reverse-judo bluff lmao; that's such a true point. You're awesome man.
same here, love it 😀
I’m offended by the audio/video sync being off 😆.
Love your take on what’s offensive!
I was about to comment about this video being misleading… until you admitted in the video that you were using the thumbnail to troll people. I have to admire that!
I remember when the 2002 "remasters" of "Blizzard Of Ozz" and "Diary Of A Madman" came out, my local indie record store actually put their own advisory sticker on the covers that read something like: "Beware of false metal! This release has re-recorded bass and drums and is NOT the original version of the album". Something like that.
Those ugly early MCA cd's you referred to such as Elton John, Tom Petty, The Who, Steely Dan, and Olivia Newton-John all actually came with very nice full artwork on the first MCA cd editions. The ugly ones you are referring to were the second printing done shortly after. The first ones often had catalog number 37xxx instead of the later pressings 31xxx to distinguish them. Find those first pressings and enjoy!
Great video Robert! I'm offended when on some CDs or albums they don't put the year it was made on the back cover.
Becaujse you don't know which edition you're getting - crap original, or much-improved later pressing.
@@farrellmcnulty909 improved???
@@SPAZZOID100 or at least the promise of it being improved - remixed, remastered...makes me think of an old blender in the 70s, the mix-master. Funny, though, I could suddenly go for a milkshake.
His "offended people that don't even exist" comnent was brilliant.
I've often thought the same thing. I could have a drink with this dude.
Sharon is a witch for doing the 2002 remixes !!!!!!
I generally stay away from remixes altogether. I prefer original mix, warts and all.
How about the record company re-recording all the early ZZ Top albums with electronic drums and bass to make them sound like “Legs”, and not mentioning it?
I actually mention the ZZ Top debacle in my ZZ Top video.
Hilarious thumb nail. Good move👍🏻
Thanks!
How about those oversized cardboard CD sleeves and digipaks that do not fit regular CD storage racks ?
lol
Good stuff. You gave me a chuckle. I was about to call you out on Scorpions but decided to watch it first. Funny. I subscribed.
Thanks! If only more people would watch the video first. lol
Almost nearly busted
This is a great video! MCA's CD's always ticked me off. Elton John is another artist that lost all his back covers in the first round of CD releases.
90s issues were good, had nice booklets with an essay, bonus tracks.
Then by the 2010s, they started reissuing them in sets of 2 albums (2 cds) with just a single page and track listings.
Lovedrive is the greatest album cover of all time. I'm offended by Who Are You and Who By Numbers not having any type of inner sleeve w lyrics/info, how cheap can you get?
MCA was fucking horrible. Thank God Universal later on decided to properly remaster all the Who albums - well, all of THEIR Who albums - I'd forgotten the last two are wih Warners.
Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey released their solo stuff on Atlantic/ Atco for many years, I wish that label had picked up The Who as well.
I'm offended by compilation albums that list the tracks but don't tell you they've been re-recorded by singers/bands no one has heard of.
If I wanted to hear shit covers, I'd go to a small town street dance.
I remember ones with gold records on the front in the 70's. "Million Sellers" or something on Pickwick. All generic studio groups doing the songs.
Love your comment!! Couldnt agree more
Look for the small/fine print, either on front or back of the CD.
There you'll see the info about the music. Something like:
"Original recordings (*); all others *new recordings* by original artist."
"All songs by The Lonely Hearts Band."
"Songs listed are not original recordings."
That kind of honesty is fairly rare on album artwork.
@@peterklutinoty244 'small print', as in tiny .5 point font that's obscured by the CD case. 😁😁
lovedrive
rocks🦂🦂
Tip: Avoid buying reissue or 'greatest hits' albums from labels you never heard of or are known to be cheap/sleazy. It helps to know which labels (such as Rhino) take pride in their reisssues. Also, avoid major label or any other reissues that are obviously targeting people who are uninformed or willing to give up quality for a lower price. Bad/cheap cover design is often a warning sign.
Rhino is so good. The people who work there really love music and want to preserve it. Can't say the same for many other reissue labels.
I kinda of like cheap reissues. I've collected some pretty cool albums that way. You have to understand what you're buying is not "official" or authorized.
MCA did that with Steppenwolf too.
A list of titles on the back and no liner notes.
One of the things that turned me off cds and made me look for the original vinyl.
Yeah, they couldn't even be bothered to get the title of "Draft Resister" right on the Monster CD. MCA called it "Draft Register". Quite a bit different than John Kay's intent.
Quality content. I don't know how much time you spend thinking of these dissertations and themes for your videos, but you are very good at pointing out things that are so true that I never realized or thought about. Major kudos for that. And I am offended by every Jim Nabors album. All the best.
Especially if Jim Neighbors was the guy with the bubble gum in the picture! 😂😂
The worst album covers are all of Phil Collins’ albums. There is no clear warning about the horrors that lay within:
how true..!!
Ain't that the truth blood 😁
On the Flaming Youth LP, he only sings on one song.
Phil ******* Collins. Yuk!
Lee Kerslake, who died in 2020, and who was the drummer/writer on Ozzy's 'Blizzard of Ozz', was finally given his well deserved 'Gold Record Award' for his contribution to the success of that album. Lee received his accolades right before his death. The Osbourne's did make right, right in time...
Thanks for the info... excellent to hear!
Only after Ozzy donkey-punched Sharon into submission though...
the story is Ozzy himself intervened because of a letter stating Kerskate was near death and it was one of his long standing wishes to get that Gold Disc. Sharon wouldn't have done it.
Interesting choice you made to focus on the shitty record companies decisions to ruin the artwork or omit to mention edits and stuff. Not concentrating on the picture chosen for the artwork is great, it's different from other videos:)
Damn right! You’re absolutely right about all of these offensive consumer rip offs.
Along the lines of using edits, I hate when they put out a greatest hits comp for a group but they’ll use a live version of one of their biggest songs instead of the studio version that was a hit. It’s especially annoying when it’s a comp for a group I only have enough interest in to buy a best of, and then because of this kind of stunt I don’t even have all the songs I want!
That Ozzy 2002 decimation...man. When I heard about the “remasters” coming out I was super excited because finally there would be a legit version of “You Looking At Me” available! I’d heard about that song for ages, and being that Randy Rhoads died so young and there wasn’t a whole lot with him on it that hadn’t already been out there, I really wanted to hear that. Back in 2002 the only way to procure some of these songs was via Napster or Limewire or the like, and to say that sound quality on files from those sites could be lacking would be too kind. So the day those Ozzy “remasters” came out I went to Best Buy and happily bought Blizzard and Diary. I put the CD into my car’s stereo and it starts to play. Immediately something sounds off. I jump forward to “Crazy Train” and it starts out and immediately that sounds off to me too. I look at the back of the CD...nothing looked amiss. No mention of anything other than it being a remaster. I look in the book, read the liner notes and...motherfucker. Bass and drums re-recorded. If I’m not mistaken it was Robert Trujillo and Mike Bordin, both great musicians, that did the re-recorded parts. I just couldn’t believe they’d agree to re-record the parts of these seminal albums.
Same with me, except I got "Blizzard of Oz" for a friend for his birthday. Double disappointment.
2:55 - If you wanna hear some GOOD re recordings check out Gordon Lightfoot's 1975 retro "Gord's Gold". Sides 1 & 2 feature new Reprise versions of his earlier songs for United Artists... and I have to admit the new recordings are genuinely superior! Better production, better arrangements, better everything...
Wonderful clip, agree 1000%. The ELO thing is really offensive to me because when the group was honored by the Rock and Roll hall Of Fame I was excited because I enjoyed violinist Mik Kaminksi and cellist Hugh McDowell who, when I saw them live, were fascinating and mesmerizing to watch. And they both starred in the band on several of their finest albums but Jeff not only didn't invite them to the ceremony but DIDN'T even mention them in his self adoring acceptance speech. Richard Tandy and Bev Bevan, who were invited didn't speak either and Bev, who was going to show up-didn't. It pissed me off, and add to that what you were talking about and the fact that Jeff decided to "simulate" the strings on future releases and re-makes as he didn't want to pay the musicians. The whole key, in my estimation, to their success back in the day was due to those live strings playing and sounding like buzz saws in the mix. They don't mix them prominently in new works...hmmmm. Makes me mad.
Exactly, these computer-generated remakes don't have the feel of the originals at all. I've never heard that acceptance speech, but I can imagine.
I was in high school in the mid 80s and a friend got a CD player before the rest of us. He wouldn't let anyone touch his CDs.
K-Tel was the world's worse for editing songs on their albums. When I was 12 years old my grandmother bought me a K-Tel album for Christmas because she didn't know what kind of music I was into. I immediately gravitated to a song called Hey You by Bachman Turner Overdrive. Use to sing along with it and knew the words by heart. When I turned 14 I started buying my own albums which included BTO'S Four Wheel Drive, the album that included Hey You. You can imagine my surprise when I found out that the K-Tel version had omitted one of the verses. Here I am singing loud and proud like the young stud I was only to be much plucked in front of my friends.
It wasn't really K tels fault. It was due to licensing by the artist to be used as a "taster" to motivate you to buy the full album.
K-Tel was a little different, you kinda knew you were getting cheapo cuts there!! That was their thing! It was basically a “sampler”!
@@Geezer-yf8hv Unfortunately for me, most grandmothers probably didn't know that.
@@tonystephens6858 yeah but those Lps were cool they gave you a taste of several artists.. a job well done by grandma
LMFAO I wasn’t really that interested to hear rantings about album artwork (that was probably not even offensive) but the fact that you kind of trolled us all was next level stuff! Nice! You get a thumbs up 👍
DVDs, and for that matter, Laserdiscs, used to do that when they first came out. It was special (compared to simple VHS cassettes) buying them because not only did the actual disc(s) offer more features than could ever be done on a VHS tape but the packaging always came with so much stuff; booklets, artwork, posters, cards, etc. Now….pfft. You’ll be lucky to not get an insert that was just a blank white page on one side. Talk about giving up!!
Good respect for rhoads, kerslake, and daisley. One of the best bands ever. The original blizzard of oz band
Completely agree with your first example. Sharon hated the fact that Ozzy had to rely of those guys to write songs for him - and has tried over the last 40 years to re-write history and erase those talented musicians from the catalogue
30 thumbs down as of June 21, 2021. I wonder how many of those people actually WATCHED the video.
BUSTED!
As we say in the UK you are 'spot on' in your analysis. I'm like you and like most music lovers, a bit pedantic and just want honesty on those covers. Example you gave - I'm a big fan of E.L.O. and Jeff Lynne but it needs to be clear on the cover what it is.
Enjoyed this, first time I've seen you, subscribed!
Thanks! Big Jeff Lynne fan here too. That's why it was so disappointing to see him, especially, engaging in such tactics.
The Who Sells Out. To me, baked beans look, smell and taste like dysentery. Not so much offensive as nauseating.
The Scorpions album cover is great. I bet the guy is thinking: 'So that's where I left my bubblegum.'
From a different era, but then so am i! Great cover.
Cheap rereleases, remixed and rehashed versions of old releases should offend every conscious consumer. Money grab by old artists and the record companies no doubt.
The *censored* Cannibal Corpse album covers offend me, thanks Germany! 🙄
Those MCAs are certainly skimpy on the artwork, but the discs often sound really great - non-compressed and flat master transfers. The gold embossed labels on the vinyl covers were to show new catalog numbers (when MCA bought out Decca and other labels) or to signify that it was a budget line release (Platinum Plus).
The fake Blizzard of Ozz was an insult to all human species
I’m offended. That’s way too much bubble gum on that scorpions. 😉
Busted, pal !
Busted
The back cover of that album is better! ;)
@@karfan2290 Busted, haha. Sorry you need to watch the video. :)
@@ianwhite6034 But I watched the whole video! This was my comment regarding Tom Trauber comment.
Was expecting gripes which were petty nonsense (first time viewing your channel) BUT I couldn’t agree more with your points ! Well said
Good to know about the Blue Sky album. Really good offends here.🔥💥🚀🧨💣
Early cassettes were missing a lot of artwork too I remember getting Rolling Stones Let it Bleed and wanting all the artwork and it was blank white inside the J card
Oh yes, cassettes were a whole other issue.
And sometimes the track-listing was messed up to balance both sides out.
MCA was the worst.
Good video. Someone told me recently that the idea with those McCartney reissues was that you were supposed to rip off the front cover, as the proper one was underneath. But I can't bring myself to rip a CD cover, not matter how crap it is.
I'm offended when they had to change the cover of Love drive and just put a logo of a scorpion with the words love drive. They should of kept the original.
Yeah the dumb censored cover is the one I have. Outstanding album, but I want the original artwork.
*have. Should HAVE. I know should’ve sounds like “of”, but it’s not.
Albums released after the artist has died.......Jimi Hendrix comes to mind.....maybe 4 official albums and yet there's 86 Hendrix albums......half are good and half are absolute garbage and yet people still try and sell them for good money......do your research!
I think the worst example was the Michael Jackson album that Sony put out and it was later revealed that some of the vocals weren't even him.
This video is very personal. I like it.
There's a completely different Scorpions album with a muuuuch more offensive cover....
okay so you know about it, mentioned it at the end. A lot of noise/industrial have really grim cover art, but usually not anything made for the album like scorpions did.
"39 Licks" holy shit that had me cracking up
What the fuck are talking about? You could not buy a CD in 1985 for $14.00 or $15.00 dollars I know I was their. I remember it was around 1988 CDs went from $39.99 to $29.99 now maybe 1995 you could get a CD for $15 but that would still be on the low end in 1995 CDs routinely went for $19.99 everywhere.
I am the fuck talking about cd prices circa 1985 in the United States. I was there. About $15-$16 for a new cd. $39.99 U.S. for a single audio compact disc in 1985 was not a reality.
Great video! Nice different angle. Those are things that REALLY annoy!
Another thing that drove me crazy back was when they didn't put the dang title on the c.d. itself. Some of us would take the cd out of the case and carry them in a small binder that would hold 30 or 40 discs. After kicking around in the car for a year or two you could easily forget just who put out the orange c.d. with a cow on it!
I heard about a store once that started storing discs behind the counter and the case on the shelf. Someone removed the numbering system they were using and they had to try to pair up hundreds of unmarked cds with cases.
Cool video. First off I have to say R.I.P Lee Kerslake. So I totally agree with you that what Sharon Osbourne did by having the bass and drum parts on the Blizzard of Ozz and Diary of a madman albums rerecorded, is very offensive. She only did it to avoid paying them songwriting and performance royalties. Bob Daisley and Lee Kerslake were suing the Osbournes at that time. On a side note, the musicians that did the work are garbage and should be called out for it at every opportunity. They knew what they were doing. It was Robert Trujillo on bass who now plays for metallica, and Mike Bordin from faith no more on the drums.
Its funny that you mention the Scorpions because the made the only album cover that has ever offended me. That would be the original German cover for the virgin killer album. They seem to be the original kings of the offensive covers.
Cheers.
At east the McCartney had the full size album cover on the next page. I always just pulled that white border one off & no problem!
I held off picking up Ozzy's first two CDs for this very reason. Fortunately, they were re-released *again* but this time a sticker indicated they were by the original musicians and then, I researched to verify this was indeed true. Buying music shouldn't be this difficult. 😅
what offends me are those cds they made to be copy proof or impossible to rip just to find out they wont even play period on certain car or home system set ups essentially making it a fruitless purchase throwing away your money
Absolutely! I think it was poor timing to do that because people were already switching over to streaming services back then.
What are a few titles of cd's that couldn't be ripped?
one i know for sure is i believe to be the first pressing of the soundtrack to the original fast & the furious movie,....as far as other titles the experiment didnt last too long as the public outcry from cd buyers and store owners losing money over returned discs is so massive so quickly that the labels had to squash the experiment too sudden for many titles to get the anti pirating treatment
OK you got me I was ready to rant and then I finished the video and started giggling my ass off, great video of my friend
Enjoyed the video. You're right about information being left off the covers in order to mislead buyers. As for edited versions of songs, I sometimes prefer edited versions but in all fairness, they should be labeled as such. The "Lovedrive" thumbnail was a great touch.
I'm glad to see that you didn't share the original cover of Virgin Killer by the Scorpions. That would have been even more difficult to explain.
Lol Jesus yeah that one is kind of rough
My dad has an original print of the scorpions lovedrive album art poster signed by members of the band during their live tour for that album (he used to manage a record store)
Spot on! Here's another personal rant... I picked up the very 1st MCA CD issue of Lynyrd Skynyrd's "One More From the Road" only to find a notice inside the package that stated "In our effort to bring you the original double LP for the cost of a single CD, we have had to omit 2 selections due to the length of the original LP." Boy was I pissed about it!
A lot of mid-late 80s CD issues left things off to save money. The 1978 "Superman" movie soundtrack left two pieces off to fit on one CD, Dokken's "Beast From The East" live album left out a couple of tracks, I'm sure there were many others. A few edited releases had the good sense to call it "Highlights" or something. The single CD "Phantom Of The Opera" highlights album, for example.
Won't Get Fooled Again! 😏
My soul drops when I hear an edited song
Thank god I have Blizzard of Ozz on vinyl. Original pressing. Thanks for the heads up. I have that CD. Never listened to it. Still sealed.
Awesome! Fortunately I don't think the 2002 version was ever released on vinyl so at least there's that.
Thanks for opening my eyes on E L O. A friend was playing the Mr. Blue Sky CD and I realized that something was off about the songs. Now I know.
I didn't really have a lot of love for Ozzy or Sharon long before 2002 but this was definitely the nail in the coffin of their actions and support from me when this happened I borderline hate those two these days and I am sick of Ozzy putting the blame on Sharon for all of these things he's just as culpable in my eyes more so
I thought this was a bit clickbaity because the Blizzard Of Oz & ELO things aren't 'offensive', just fraudulent. Anyone who bought the CDs should have been able to get their money back.
"not offensive, just fraudulent." There are some wacko people like myself who think a company being fraudulent IS offensive. And most places, you cannot get your money back if the cd is opened. All 5 artworks mentioned in the video are offensive to me, so it's not clickbait. btw, giving your OWN comment a thumbs up? Seriously?
@@RobertFithen In the UK back in the 1990s, there were legal challenges/complaints about some 'chart hits of the 70s' type compilation CDs with crappy re-recordings of certain tracks. Eventually they had to carry a disclaimer on the back something like: "This compilation contains tracks that differ from the original release... blah blah...". It was a basic legal requirement.
That was funny about the Scorpions cover. I didn't know about that ELO album, if I'd seen it I probably would have bought it. Thanks for that, won't get burned now.
I'm offended by remastered albums from the 70s on vinyl that don't disclose that they're not using the original master tapes as source, but some digital copy.
8:05 LMFAO 😂
I have a few albums that go to an even further extreme:
-- "The Best Of The Animals" - here you got Eric Burdon's voice superimposed over what sounds like poorly-constructed MIDI tracks.
-- There was an album of '60s R&B "oldies" that was obviously created during the waning disco era. There was a version of Sam & Dave's "Hold On, I'm Comin' " where ALL of the instruments were replaced with some disco session musicians, and it was a trainwreck supreme. I put it in a garage sale pile, but nobody took the bait, and I just donated it to some other sucker down the road.
-- Even Frank Zappa, whom I consider to be one of the most prolific composers and performers of the 20th Century, and whose efforts led to the acceptance of digital media itself, stepped over the line with re-releases of "We're Only In It For The Money" and "Cruisin' With Ruben & The Jets" that sucked donkeys. According to Zappa, when he finally got the master tapes, the bass and drum tracks were gone, deteriorated to the point where there was only clear space instead of the magnetic media which once existed. How did he "fix" this? By having Scott Thunes and Chad Wackerman re-record those bass and drum parts.
Problem was, they didn't do it very well; in fact, it sounded like they played through the album once.
Zappa's response to the complaints? It was a "take it or leave it" approach. Okay, Frank -- I left it. (Fortunately, I still have my vinyl copies in pristine condition, so there.)
-- Dishonorable mentions go to all of those '60s "20 greatest hits" compilations that cut some extreme corners. I remember one of these piecs of crap that featured "Walk Away Renee" that began with a fade-in after the second chorus, which meant you got the dinky flute solo and a chorus, and done. WTF?
And the industry wonders why people don't buy albums anymore?
That's okay -- the labels don't give a damn, as evidenced by their reliance on 360 deals that scoop money away from artists at every turn.
And don't get me started on the weasels who steal co-production credits in some pretty nefarious ways! I can't tell you how happy I am NOT to be signed to ANY record deal anymore.
Absolutely! I remember hearing the "We're Only It For the Money" CD and thinking it would be authentic based on the cd cover now being as originally intended. I actually purchased it and was really put off by the drum machines, etc. Thankfully, it has been re-released since then with some kind of masters and, of course like you said, there's always the original vinyl.
I remember growing up with one of those 60's comps. It was one of the first albums Iever heard. Edited "Leader of the Pack" and "Runaround Sue", but the long version of "Crimson and Clover". Strange.
I bought the Scorpions 'Lovedrive' album when it was just released. It "had" a red semi-transparent wrap on it to cover the breast of the woman. I said "had" because my asshat friend visited one day, and while I was somewhere else in the house, he peeled away the red semi-transparent wrap. I wasn't very happy with him, and I let him know it. Grrrrr...
Mine also has the red shrink.
I've tried to keep it intact with scotch tape.
I once went out with a girl who was otherwise very well musically educated had managed to travel time and space but never heard the last three verses of Bat Out Of Hell starting at "Well I can see myself tearing up the road, faster than any other boy had gone before...." because she'd only ever heard radio edits and the song on compilations.
Until that point the song is literally meaningless - it's a story without an ending!
I'll try to keep this one shorter but I have a hard time doing that since I'm talking to my phone as if it's a person dictating for me.
You gave a prime example of something I really don't like in a past video when you were talking about Led Zeppelin physical graffiti and how they left off the end of In My Time of Dying... Cough (and then those musical notes). I didn't realize this at the time when I saw that video but after listening back I realized they left off the beginning of Ten Years Gone also and some of the music on the original release from it. Now that I've noticed these two exemptions on the 2015 remaster, I'm wondering if there's others that I might be missing? Now this is a little off topic for what you were talking about but it's something I really don't like.
And in your example of leaving off the back cover imagery and details on CDs, I recently saw an older video where you were talking about the cover from the band Target with the woman in the net. You had mentioned that it was something you remembered seeing as a kid. I remembered the same exact thing when you were showing that. I was looking at LP's trying to find a copy on discogs but I really didn't want to pay $20 for a used copy and the imagery I remembered the best was the back cover where that same woman is running. So I went ahead and got the CD since it reportedly had six additional live tracks added to it. And when I got it in, the front cover semi looked the same but the hype sticker was a fixed to the CD plastic case and the image that I remembered the most which was the back cover was nowhere to be found. They had a six or 10-page booklet type insert with a lot of detail and I figured it would be in there but nope. That just kind of bummed me out a little. And it was $20 for the CD but I got it because I had a $20 Amazon credit and I figured hey it's not costing me anything really. Plus it has six extra songs which by the way all tested to be lossy MPEG files. I guess somebody was cashing in after Jimi Jamison passed away. That is very irritating to me.
And one last thing. As you were talking about how artist can sometimes come in and remaster or redo music without mentioning the changes, and you're expecting the newer pressing of the originals, I got one of those types of deals recently when I saw an Eddie Money greatest hits type release that was new and put out by the Cleopatra label. I didn't realize it until I got it, and even going back and looking at information again there was very little mention of it in most reviews or ads if any, this was Eddie Money redoing the old songs before he passed away. I think it was something like in 2015 or 2016. Now he did have a number of the original band members helping out. But of course not all of them were there and one's like Roni Spector wasn't there. I went ahead and kept that one and didn't send it back because it actually was done fairly well. At least it had that going for it. But I thought I was getting the original copies of some of his greats like Two Tickets to Paradise, Take Me Home Tonight, etc. And that was the furthest thing from the truth. I don't think anything like that was even mentioned on the album cover anywhere but I can't say that with 100% certainty without looking at it one more time. It was very deceptive I think the way that was done. And being deceived is something I strongly dislike! Had they even mentioned on the details when looking around and finally purchasing the album, if I'd even seen one ad telling me the truth, I would have still bought it most likely just to check it out. Well, maybe not but still I don't like having the vinyl pulled over my eyes!
The key to me is that these things are not often mentioned unless somebody does a in-depth review and they definitely aren't mentioned oftentimes in the advertisements or by the label. You know they are purposely being deceptive and it really chaps my ass when they do this.
Of course on the Target CD, Captured I just remembered was the title, it wasn't really any deception other than why they put mp3 audio on a CD. But why did they have to take out some of the imagery or the complete back album art that I really recalled and used to see in the record bins. Well the front cover was what you remembered the best It was the back cover that I remembered. It just doesn't make sense when things like this happen and especially when the deceptive stuff happens and they just flat out lie like in your Ozzy example!
Brian in Fort Worth 🎶
I agree with you about those Paul McCartney reissues. Always hated it.
You’re pretty awesome bro!!
Well, I just got busted for knuckle dragging. You went off discussing album and song misrepresentation, when I thought you were going to address John D'allessandro's elephant in the room.
Always great content from you. Thanks.
Enjoyable rant, I mean discussion. I think we have all been burned at one time or another with hits being rerecorded and that feeling you get when you discern that this does not sound like the original. Carry on.
Sure glad you weren't offended by the Scorpions Lovedrive album because I've always loved that both the front and the back my older brother bought that when it was released I was 13 then and that was and still is one hot looking babe
I am offended by.........being had also! MCA and Not knowing about ELO and Jeff Lynn but I got the ELO early so I'm ok! Thanks! I am not offended by Album art unless corporate screws screw it up, and they usually do.
You need to start hanging out with Sea of Tranquility. It’d be cool to see you guys together. Brilliant vid!
Probably been mentioned already… but Walmart versions of albums. Don’t know why anyone would shop for music at Walmart, but they are notorious for EDITING albums. Both artwork and content. The worst part is they never identify the fact that it was edited. Criminal! Just as bad is the fact that some artists / labels will actually produce a “Walmart Version” of their album - essentially self editing so that they can get their album on the shelf at Walmart. Dreadful!
Another gripe of mine is: Artists who make a long album … then either put “Edited” versions of songs on it - meaning Shortened, so that they don’t have to add another cd or god forbid another lp… also shortening the track/s means - It’s Not The Damned Song!!! Then as a smack in the face… they will include a Download Code so you can get the Complete Version of the album. Look MFer - if I wanted a digital version of your album - I would have just downloaded it in the first place. I actually PAID MORE for it because I want the physical object! Especially with vinyl - I get it… putting a whole other 12” in the package exponentially increases the cost: not just the extra vinyl and pressing charges… it increases the time it takes to produce the finished product, packaging costs… maybe even having to adjust or redesign the packaging, and will greatly increase Shipping Costs. It may even cost you album sales because people don’t want to pay the higher price… and everyone wants to cash in right now on the resurgence of the vinyl collecting market. Frankly, my view is that I am one of the rare individuals out here who still collect music, and want (and will Pay For) the Physical Item. At the very least - tell me that I am not getting the album that I want and/or think I am getting. Personally - I think it would be better, and show more integrity, to just say it won’t fit and we don’t want to spend the extra money to add another lp… so we aren’t going to put it out on vinyl. Don’t cheat the fans / collectors, and most importantly - don’t cheat the music. Hell… I will even give you the solution to how you CAN solve this issue and actually make the correct version! Like to hear it, here it goes: If nothing else - just work out the cost (with your profit margin included) and make it a “Pre-order Only Version”… meaning - you can only get it if you pre-order and pay in advance. I cannot count the albums that I have pre-ordered / pre-paid for over the years! A ton (literally, and figuratively) I’m sure. Could maybe even make it numbered. Or even make it special in some other way/s… like Signed, or an extra track, or include a poster, a button or pin, an extra insert, the options are endless. Tell everyone… This is how many we have to order… if not - it won’t happen. If we get enough orders - you will be charged immediately! If your payment is denied, then you don’t get it. Once the pre-order time frame is over… that’s it… No More Orders! Good Luck on eBay and Discogs. That’s all there is. Only press the amount that was Pre-Paid for. No Refunds! / No Exceptions! / No Mercy! This is the Estimated Shipping Date - but it will most likely take longer! Do not expect it to be on time… this is reality, and companies pressing the vinyl and making the sleeves, and shipping companies (the ones bringing it to us, and the ones delivering it to you) etc. etc. - often are late! All we can do is keep you updated about things - when possible… do not expect or contact us for “an update”… we will pass on what we know when we can… anything and everything else is futile and will be ignored. We will get it to you as soon as it is possible! Do not order it if this is an issue for you. No Refunds! / No Exceptions! / No Mercy! Also - You ordered it… it is 100% Your Responsibility to make sure that we have your correct address. You have a computer in your pocket, it’s not our responsibility nor our fault if you cannot keep track of Your Responsibilities. If it gets sent to your old address: not our problem! No Refunds! No Exceptions! No Mercy! If it gets returned to us… not our problem, or responsibility to track you down to get your address… we now have a copy to sell, at the very least - you would have to pay for shipping again… your fault, you pay for it. Even if the albums are made, packaged, and ready to ship, in the truck on the way to the post office - and a UFO comes down and tractor beams the truck up and flies away: No Refunds! No Exceptions! No Mercy! You want this on vinyl… this is the Only Way we can do it, and make sure that we don’t lose any money, and therefore the only way that the people who want that version/format can get it. Also - with the profit margin worked in, the artist will make money too. .. especially knowing that the more orders you get, the cost per item usually goes down. Done. This isn’t rocket science… it’s basic commerce. This is the digital age people, act like it.
TLDR Rant Over.
I never heard of "Blizzard Of Oz" being re-recorded in 2002! Oh, Ozzman! I'm so disappointed you and/or Sharon would do this! Well, Roger Waters is recording a new version of the Pink Floyd masterpiece "Dark Side Of The Moon", and crapping all over David Gilmour, Nick Mason, and Rick Wright. Roger is also taking complete credit for DSOTM and all other Floyd albums recorded when he was the Floyd frontman. Getting to the point, I agree with this video's messages that 1) if it ain't broke, don't screw with it 2) be transparent and tell us what we're getting if it's different from the original, don't bait and switch us!
I got alot of those Buffett on compact disc for five dollars a piece at the same time. Just glad to get them so cheap..
I remember a Bee Gees album called “Main Course” ( the 2 hits “Jive Talkin’” and “Nights On Broadway” were on there) it depicted a nude woman bathing in a giant spoon, it was drawn but i always wondered if that caused controversy.
also
1. Mike Watt "Ballhog or Tugboat" the cover seems to be of two men enjoying each other's company
2. Cerrone: "Love in C Minor". The version that was Not released in the U.S."
3. "Blind Faith" Also, the version that was Not released in the U.S.
Can I bust myself? Even backwards? I clicked on the thumb nail with the thought of "Oh c'mon Robert. What could you possibly be offended by Scorpions 'Love drive' ??" Made me watch the video. Most likely would have anyway. I have to mention the worst edit on Forty Licks is "Sympathy for the Devil" Blasphemy!!! Is "Blizzard of Oz" the only Album the musicians were replaced on? I thought there were more. Looking up online just confused me more. Anybody? Speaking of which, and since this appears to me to be a collectors oriented board. I scored an Anniversary Blizzard Box set with both versions at the library for $2 U.S. Dollars!!!
I recall hearing a phone interview with Steven Tyler on the radio when Aerosmith's GH's came out. He attacked the "Sweet Emotion" edit. Said something along the lines of "You know that was done by some tie wearing pencil neck geek...."
I had to laugh when you picked up the Jimmy Buffet CD. Before you launched into your spot on rant, I spied the back and thought to myself "That looks like every MCA CD I own"
Music fans have been ripped off for years. Compilation albums, live albums, 12" singles, remixes, remixes by five different companies on the same CD single, greatest hits albums with "bonus" tracks that were never hits, reworked versions, remastered versions, rare tracks, alternate versions. You bought it, you prove you're a mug.
Those cropped art reissue CDs always bothered me when I would see them in stores. Never fell for them, though.
There was a time in the 90's and early 2000's when it was in vogue for Rock acts to have these cartoon drawings as album covers. I'm not just talking about some of the bigger bands that you would expect to have bad artwork (Limp Bizkit, Korn, Etc.) but some actually decent bands that fell into that trend. Sponge has one with that style, just horrendous. I think it was called New Pop Sunday? Sponge's first two records were phenomenal and had great artwork, though.
I miss the Cassette Art and lay-outs from back in the day. Especially once CDs became more popular. Tapes always had to crop or alter the larger art down and there was always something about that anesthetic, for the most part, that I really enjoyed.
I feel like I’m going to be offended by the Scorpions cover, but I’m not there yet. On my phone, it looks like the Pee Wee Herman Scorpion is holding a big piece of peppermint taffy, like a huge strip of bacon taffy to cover the possible breast of Lauren Holly. Well, I’ve never seen taffy like that, so it must be a different implement. If it’s something other than taffy, I’m offended. But if it is taffy, Pee Wee should be commended for his quick thinking. I am offended by the gas guzzling look of that back seat, that looks like the back 40 of a Duisenberg. I can see why you were both offended and outraged.
I was going to leave a smart ass comment about you being offended by the scorpions album cover, and how you probably even think Blizzard of Oz came out in 2002. Then I looked at the thumb nail and realized it has a frowny face over the cover, so you can't tell it's the scorpions.
That really offends me.
I watched the whole video, and you said you were going to use that cover so people would leave a comment on it without having watched the video.
How am I supposed to leave smart ass comments when you don't even leave the thumb nail you said you were going to leave,
Never mind
I just answered my own question.
Oh yea ,I don't wanna hear some redone BS either ..They are /were killing the originals and yep sells are bad for it also ..I think that was a short screw up that they have quit thankfully ....MOFI SACDS are the bomb. I just got EAGLES ON THE BORDER and it is made like the album cover in a mini size and the sound quality is awesome .... I hate the Gold Record Award stamps that were used on the older albums from the 60s mostly, Beatles and Zep had them . ,they look tacky with a huge eye sore