I've missed these vids, I've only recently cleaned out my notification alerts on YT to start seeing em again. At this point you know more than the devs. Used to watch these all the time especially when I'd power level a pawn and wanted to mid max (grim+bang bang arrows+charms= big numbers). Glad to be entertained and given some good music recommendations as well with the vids once again. Hope things have been decent at least and that life gives you some highs with the lows ✌
How this affects rings from BBI: -Ring with Burst Strike/Blitz Strike is available from beginning. Swordsman Band also upgrades Downcrack to Downcrash (quite a niche skill) -Assasin's Ring with Dire/Deadly Gouge are useless -Upgrading of Powder Blast/Powder Barrage and Showdown/Crackdown is better with Assasin's Ring instead of Band. Both skills are always combined with Deadly Gouge on Assasin's Band -Warrior's Ring with Indomitable Lash/Calamitous Lash is worthless -Warrior's Band. If you want upgrade Indomitable Lunge/Calamitous Lunge use a variant with Arc of Deliverance/Arc of Obliteration because this variant don't have Calamitous Lash
I would love to see a video comparing hallowed feint vs blessed riposte. Its one skill that I believe the none ring version is actually better than the upgraded version, but I cant find solid proof for it.
I don't know if it has been done or if it would be just pointless, but what about the idea of comparing elementally charged Focus Bolts to the spells of Mage and Sorcerer. Maybe see if there are any spells that are just overall less damage than spaming focus bolts of the same element or maybe finding situations where focus bolts would be more suitable than even the most basic spell. I dunno, guess it would be rather pointless, but it has always been a thought in my mind if an Enchanting only style of Sorcerer could still be as effective or potentially moreso than a typical Sorcerer that uses only Holy Affinity and all the typical spells.
Lightning would possibly be more efficient give how hard the lightning spells are to use properly for the arisen, let alone pawns. But alot of enchants will go totally unused by pawns. even if it's their only spell. Dark for example will almost never get cast.
@@kodaxmax Well I meant more for the Arisen as opposed to the pawns. I know pawns can be derpy at best with enchant spells, but what if it was the Arisen making use of them as his main means of attacks. Would the player end up having a more efficient time of self enchanting and using the right focus bolts for the situation or do the spells end up just being vastly superior despite their cast times where you are not attacking? That is what I wonder because it would be cool and weird if the player character ends up being better off just spamming focus bolts (and even just the basic shot) with the correct element instead of all those fancy spells. I dunno, I guess it is just me thinking of Capcom games like Mega Man where you could play all the games with just your basic weapon and charge shot and still do well or Resident Evil games where you could play them with only the knife. Just thinking of an alternate way to play Sorcerer similar to how other vocations interesting ways to play them that the player base came up with.
I realized something fighting daimon and it's that some enemies have like a damage reduction once you start doing too much damage, i was using the 10 arrow attack and literally the single arrow basic attack did more damage idk if it's actually a thing but maybe that's why some skills seem to do less damage the more powerful they are it's the enemies fault not your skill
If you reach hard enough you could make the case that a full cycle of deadly gouge it's safer since it finishes faster than dire and since you don't have access to instant reset it might save you from getting hit, also the sound effect is just cooler and we all know that: Coolness > efficiency
@kreutz2709 ice is effective against gore cyclops, gore-chimeras as well, making it better than electric, since there are few enemies weak to that element. Same for fire since in end game most enemies resist it. Also, by coolness he meant that it looks cooler, not the in game element.
Im vaping in my cold cell, when the bell begins to chime reflecting on my past life and it doesnt have mich time cause at five o clock im watching more of nihilios videoooooss
The other day i did a strider/ranger playthrough of DD, with one caveat. I tried to use as little healing as possible and i never unlocked Dodge roll. I also played solo. With no damage increasing augments. Long story short I'm not so sure I'm good at this game anymore. 😂 i didn't use any pawns until i got to the great wall i believe? I feel like trying that again soon though.
Sadly, no. According to the Wiki, neither the main hit of the Abyssal Anguish enchantment or any of its extra strikes actually hit Great Cannons. I just recently had a similar idea, so finding that out made me sad, too...
@@gamexpert1990 Probably for the best. Great Magic Cannon is basically a machine gun that shoots homing missiles, anyways. Granted, it would be difficult to properly position and time that, and one-shoting bosses with a geyser of missiles could definitely be fun. If I were to set up maximum cannons and Ruinous Sigils and then pulled that off at the same time as the enemy triggering the sigils and cannons, I think my computer would die.
It is weird some 3rd tier skills are great such as brain splitter, all MK's riposte skills, and power barrage. And some are just lame like deadly gouge, something slash, and tempest harness. Also thank you for the vids l am telling you it is fun for me just checking up on this channel like every 3 days to see new awesome vid come out. And my favorite 3rd tier skill is powder barrage cuz it is fast and strong as F***
have 600 hours on this game between Xbox and PC and never knew handheld torches existed what the actual fuck was Capcom smoking when this game was made lol?
Love the info, really do, absolutely fantastic. But you gotta fix your presentation just a little if you wanna keep growing the channel. I only say this because I want more videos. The video picks up like crazy half way when and shit, mad props, but yeah. Rock on bro and thank you
I know you don't typically use mods, but something I've been meaning to ask around the community: If I were to attempt to try and fix Deadly Gouge, what do you think would be a good damage increase percentage wise? I've been thinking about looking in to fixing some of these broken skills (the ones not in our favor) so that they actually do more damage like they should.
I was thinking about this too. I'd look at the average increase from level 2 to level 3 for other skills that work properly, for an indication of something that feels like a comfortable increase without being overpowered
Been there. You generally don't want to increase base dmg numbers past 100% due to the way DEF works. And imho, while some of these skills became viable, most others became outright busted with the increase.(Magick Archer/Warrior/Asssassin ones).
@Nihil0.0 I'm not sure if you'll see this, but I thought this the most appropriate place to leave this comment. Following up on the one I made when this video was first published, I actually made my attempt to fix Calamitous Lash. I succeeded in increasing its damage tonight and was hoping you'd be willing to test it and tell me what you think of it. I may have some tweaking to do but I wanted to know what you thought of my first attempt. I was going to leave a message on Steam but it seems to be giving me trouble right now.
I heard they were making a dark arisen online game,or redoing this one…u plan on playing? What are your thoughts on it,I love this game and have,like u,played off and on for years…also might be a silly question by now..but when u play as a rouge,do u have a higher chance with rouge drops,when doing bitter Black Isle,or is it totally random,cause the one thing I haven’t done is geared my companion..last question,lol besides making me laugh my ass off why do u summon a helper then throw him in the water? Love the content!
New player here, not gone to BBI yet. So does this mean we absolutely shouldn't spend the discipline to get the most advanced versions of the "demise" skills, or does this only apply when wearing these cursed rings?
hmm not a hate, but... what kind of versions are you playing or did you download the wrong pirate? I have 2 versions of the game, one on PS3, the other on Steam, while everything works like clockwork, maybe they are not broken, but just caught a bug? But what are the bugs? In such a game, the maximum where the bug will be is in the crooked hands of a player who likes to play tricks in the game files
@@Nihil0.0 I first tested and then left comments and just everything Good!, no problems, maybe you installed patches / mods / or rummaged through the files? Maybe this your glitch or crash?
@@Полковник_Отем mine is on steam. No file edits, I wouldn't know where to begin. The only mods that I've had are the hooks mod and some retexture mods. I just now google searched and found others talking about gouge and lash here - www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma/comments/dqgr7y/calamitous_lash/ www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma/comments/m8vtoy/thousand_kisses_vs_dire_gouge/
About indomitable lash : aren't you releasing a bit too late ? iirc, a perfect release when your character flashes induce a slowdown effect and some camera effect. And of course it does more damage.
Arc of has the slowed effect. I show here 6 examples, 3 and 3 with all compared identical numbers. If any were late or early the damage would be drastically different.
Funny how you nonchalantly light a torch at the start of the video and I had NO IDEA you could do that lol
Lol me too.. Never knew that
You can, that't why the kindling existis in the game >D
Although is nearly useless, since the lantern is our Bloodborne's torches
...geez me too
Omg first time seeing it
I didn't even know there were torches
Bardcore music works so damn well for DDDA footage. real shame about Gouge and Lash though.
I've missed these vids, I've only recently cleaned out my notification alerts on YT to start seeing em again. At this point you know more than the devs. Used to watch these all the time especially when I'd power level a pawn and wanted to mid max (grim+bang bang arrows+charms= big numbers). Glad to be entertained and given some good music recommendations as well with the vids once again. Hope things have been decent at least and that life gives you some highs with the lows ✌
How this affects rings from BBI:
-Ring with Burst Strike/Blitz Strike is available from beginning. Swordsman Band also upgrades Downcrack to Downcrash (quite a niche skill)
-Assasin's Ring with Dire/Deadly Gouge are useless
-Upgrading of Powder Blast/Powder Barrage and Showdown/Crackdown is better with Assasin's Ring instead of Band. Both skills are always combined with Deadly Gouge on Assasin's Band
-Warrior's Ring with Indomitable Lash/Calamitous Lash is worthless
-Warrior's Band. If you want upgrade Indomitable Lunge/Calamitous Lunge use a variant with Arc of Deliverance/Arc of Obliteration because this variant don't have Calamitous Lash
This made my work day way better
Dig this version of hallowed be thy name
Damn, thanks for that bard version of Hallowed Be Thy Name
I would love to see a video comparing hallowed feint vs blessed riposte. Its one skill that I believe the none ring version is actually better than the upgraded version, but I cant find solid proof for it.
I agree. The 5 orbs are placed all wrong compared to the 3. I could probably do a vid on it.
Funny enough, i've discovered after years of gameplay that Abyssal Riposte inflicts Torpor >D
I have no idea what this is but it got recommended and this looks interesting
Good ol' youtube. It's Dragon's Dogma. Oldie, but a greaty
I don't know if it has been done or if it would be just pointless, but what about the idea of comparing elementally charged Focus Bolts to the spells of Mage and Sorcerer. Maybe see if there are any spells that are just overall less damage than spaming focus bolts of the same element or maybe finding situations where focus bolts would be more suitable than even the most basic spell.
I dunno, guess it would be rather pointless, but it has always been a thought in my mind if an Enchanting only style of Sorcerer could still be as effective or potentially moreso than a typical Sorcerer that uses only Holy Affinity and all the typical spells.
Lightning would possibly be more efficient give how hard the lightning spells are to use properly for the arisen, let alone pawns. But alot of enchants will go totally unused by pawns. even if it's their only spell. Dark for example will almost never get cast.
@@kodaxmax Well I meant more for the Arisen as opposed to the pawns. I know pawns can be derpy at best with enchant spells, but what if it was the Arisen making use of them as his main means of attacks. Would the player end up having a more efficient time of self enchanting and using the right focus bolts for the situation or do the spells end up just being vastly superior despite their cast times where you are not attacking?
That is what I wonder because it would be cool and weird if the player character ends up being better off just spamming focus bolts (and even just the basic shot) with the correct element instead of all those fancy spells. I dunno, I guess it is just me thinking of Capcom games like Mega Man where you could play all the games with just your basic weapon and charge shot and still do well or Resident Evil games where you could play them with only the knife. Just thinking of an alternate way to play Sorcerer similar to how other vocations interesting ways to play them that the player base came up with.
I realized something fighting daimon and it's that some enemies have like a damage reduction once you start doing too much damage, i was using the 10 arrow attack and literally the single arrow basic attack did more damage idk if it's actually a thing but maybe that's why some skills seem to do less damage the more powerful they are it's the enemies fault not your skill
Yeah, that does happen. You'll see it on corrupt fighter pawns especially. 5fold does no damage, while the single arrow does.
@@Nihil0.0 It's because of the reductive system. Multiple hit skills usually have lower base damage and damage multipliers.
Interesting cover of hallowed be thy name.
If you reach hard enough you could make the case that a full cycle of deadly gouge it's safer since it finishes faster than dire and since you don't have access to instant reset it might save you from getting hit, also the sound effect is just cooler and we all know that:
Coolness > efficiency
Yes, but no, Coolness
@kreutz2709 ice is effective against gore cyclops, gore-chimeras as well, making it better than electric, since there are few enemies weak to that element.
Same for fire since in end game most enemies resist it.
Also, by coolness he meant that it looks cooler, not the in game element.
Im vaping in my cold cell, when the bell begins to chime reflecting on my past life and it doesnt have mich time cause at five o clock im watching more of nihilios videoooooss
The other day i did a strider/ranger playthrough of DD, with one caveat. I tried to use as little healing as possible and i never unlocked Dodge roll. I also played solo. With no damage increasing augments. Long story short I'm not so sure I'm good at this game anymore. 😂 i didn't use any pawns until i got to the great wall i believe? I feel like trying that again soon though.
Could you do a video explaining dark/desse ration feint
No idea you could light a kindling bruh
I have over 1000 hours and had no clue either.
@@Gumby902 right lmao
I wonder if that blitz strike combo could be pulled off on great magic cannon.
Sadly, no. According to the Wiki, neither the main hit of the Abyssal Anguish enchantment or any of its extra strikes actually hit Great Cannons.
I just recently had a similar idea, so finding that out made me sad, too...
@@gamexpert1990 Probably for the best. Great Magic Cannon is basically a machine gun that shoots homing missiles, anyways.
Granted, it would be difficult to properly position and time that, and one-shoting bosses with a geyser of missiles could definitely be fun. If I were to set up maximum cannons and Ruinous Sigils and then pulled that off at the same time as the enemy triggering the sigils and cannons, I think my computer would die.
It does in fact work. The wiki is actually very wrong on a lot of things about this game.
@@jaredcrabb Have you done it?
@@NevisYsbryd Yes, and it worked just fine.
Thank you for reminding me that you can fire a stick in DD
It is weird some 3rd tier skills are great such as brain splitter, all MK's riposte skills, and power barrage. And some are just lame like deadly gouge, something slash, and tempest harness. Also thank you for the vids l am telling you it is fun for me just checking up on this channel like every 3 days to see new awesome vid come out. And my favorite 3rd tier skill is powder barrage cuz it is fast and strong as F***
oops l meant *powder*
have 600 hours on this game between Xbox and PC and never knew handheld torches existed
what the actual fuck was Capcom smoking when this game was made lol?
Love the info, really do, absolutely fantastic. But you gotta fix your presentation just a little if you wanna keep growing the channel. I only say this because I want more videos. The video picks up like crazy half way when and shit, mad props, but yeah. Rock on bro and thank you
I know you don't typically use mods, but something I've been meaning to ask around the community: If I were to attempt to try and fix Deadly Gouge, what do you think would be a good damage increase percentage wise?
I've been thinking about looking in to fixing some of these broken skills (the ones not in our favor) so that they actually do more damage like they should.
I was thinking about this too. I'd look at the average increase from level 2 to level 3 for other skills that work properly, for an indication of something that feels like a comfortable increase without being overpowered
Been there. You generally don't want to increase base dmg numbers past 100% due to the way DEF works.
And imho, while some of these skills became viable, most others became outright busted with the increase.(Magick Archer/Warrior/Asssassin ones).
What is the moaning going on at 1:56? I just got new headphones......are they from the mobs?????
Probably the zombies. Capcom likes there cutscenes to forshadow
@Nihil0.0 I'm not sure if you'll see this, but I thought this the most appropriate place to leave this comment. Following up on the one I made when this video was first published, I actually made my attempt to fix Calamitous Lash. I succeeded in increasing its damage tonight and was hoping you'd be willing to test it and tell me what you think of it. I may have some tweaking to do but I wanted to know what you thought of my first attempt. I was going to leave a message on Steam but it seems to be giving me trouble right now.
I heard they were making a dark arisen online game,or redoing this one…u plan on playing? What are your thoughts on it,I love this game and have,like u,played off and on for years…also might be a silly question by now..but when u play as a rouge,do u have a higher chance with rouge drops,when doing bitter Black Isle,or is it totally random,cause the one thing I haven’t done is geared my companion..last question,lol besides making me laugh my ass off why do u summon a helper then throw him in the water? Love the content!
New player here, not gone to BBI yet. So does this mean we absolutely shouldn't spend the discipline to get the most advanced versions of the "demise" skills, or does this only apply when wearing these cursed rings?
It's safe to upgrade to the tier2 skill. The ring, when worn will upgrade to the tier3. Don't wear the ring for Dire gouge deadly gouge
Hey guys new to all this..when you talk MODS are we talking Skyrim type MODS? And how?
why did they never fix these?
How do I get skull splitter?
Level 3 skills are provided from skill rings. You'll need the Strider's ring or the Strider's Band
Nice
hmm not a hate, but... what kind of versions are you playing or did you download the wrong pirate? I have 2 versions of the game, one on PS3, the other on Steam, while everything works like clockwork, maybe they are not broken, but just caught a bug?
But what are the bugs? In such a game, the maximum where the bug will be is in the crooked hands of a player who likes to play tricks in the game files
Test it yourself. I noticed without testing, just observing
@@Nihil0.0 I first tested and then left comments and just everything Good!, no problems, maybe you installed patches / mods / or rummaged through the files? Maybe this your glitch or crash?
@@Полковник_Отем mine is on steam. No file edits, I wouldn't know where to begin. The only mods that I've had are the hooks mod and some retexture mods. I just now google searched and found others talking about gouge and lash here -
www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma/comments/dqgr7y/calamitous_lash/
www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma/comments/m8vtoy/thousand_kisses_vs_dire_gouge/
i love you
Brain Splitter isnt broken, it simply works as intended...
Also, isnt thousand kisses broken as well? Or am I misremembering sth?
Thousand just prolongs the attack duration. No increase in damage per strike, only the final pull strike.
About indomitable lash : aren't you releasing a bit too late ? iirc, a perfect release when your character flashes induce a slowdown effect and some camera effect. And of course it does more damage.
Arc of has the slowed effect. I show here 6 examples, 3 and 3 with all compared identical numbers. If any were late or early the damage would be drastically different.